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Go to your happy price Priceline. Hey welcome back to the podcast. I really hope you enjoy this episode and if you'd like to hear more stories like these with a different background sound, please check the description to check out my other two podcasts. And if you want to get rid of all of the ads, you can subscribe for just $2.99 a month. Last thing, I really appreciate you being here and I'd really love if you would follow the podcast and come back again soon. Thank you so much. I hope you enjoy. There have been three instances in my life where I have felt like I was going to be abducted. I am a woman and I am currently 23 years old. I am also on the petite side, standing at a whopping 53 and and weighing around 115 pounds. Because of this, I typically wear heels or platform boots so that I can appear taller than I actually am. This story happened this spring while at a secondhand store. I was looking to find a good side table styled cabinet and my boyfriend came with me because I have already been nearly abducted twice in my life and I suffer from CPTSD in part because of that. So I am not really able to go out in public by myself unless I am with someone, going to class or going to work. Lucky for me, my boyfriend is six three, lean but muscular, has a very deep, intimidating voice and has absolutely no issues with taking physical action if I needed that kind of defense. So it's nice basically having my own caring personal bodyguard for context the area I live in is bad for trafficking. I live in northern Wisconsin but close to Minneapolis. The I94 runs basically straight to Minneapolis from the Dells. I grew up near that area and I know full well that the Dells has bad trafficking issues too because of the high levels of tourism in the area. Plus Baraboo, the next town over from the Dells, still has running cargo trains that are rumored to contribute to trafficking, but that's not entirely relevant. The town I currently live in is split in half by the same interstate and there's a Walmart right by the exit, also infamous for trafficking. There have been many abductions of women in our town in various locations all over and it isn't a secret to anybody that it is an issue for the area. Now moving on, my boyfriend and I go to the next town over to look for a cabinet styled side table because the second hand shops in our town don't sell furniture. We get inside and look around for a little bit before my boyfriend says that he needs to go to the bathroom. I keep browsing nearby the bathrooms in a display area for desks, dressers, etc. And I find this really neat vintage vanity with hidden organizers in the top of the desk and I start looking at it and checking out its little features while doing so. I feel eyes on me so I look around to see if I'm being watched by someone. Sure enough, in the row of desks behind me there is a middle aged man looking at me with no facial expressions. I am dressed in a skirt and knee socks and this is one of my go to looks. So glaring at creepy men eyeing me up isn't something new to me. But since I am alone at the moment and don't want to upset the guy, I give him the cliche midwestern half smile and move up the row away from him but towards the corner of the section. All of a sudden this guy practically runs to the row I'm in. So I take a right and head up towards where he was standing when I spotted him. Initially he picks up pace and I am now half running trying to get away from him and after a small chase around furniture we end up in a situation where I am standing on one side of the row of desks and he is standing in front of me on the other side waiting to see which way I go at a standstill at this moment I try looking to my left towards the other furniture and bathrooms to see if anyone is around to witness this and thank Gaia. My boyfriend is out of the bathroom already walking towards us with very squared up posture. He looks absolutely livid and his eyes are locked solidly onto this creep that was chasing me around furniture just a second ago. My boyfriend reaches my side and puts his arm around my shoulder protectively and he and this creep make eye contact. They honestly both looked equally pissed off. The guy doesn't say anything, just walks away, but every few minutes or so we see him looking at us a few aisles away wherever we are in the store and I am extremely anxious at this point and just want to leave. But my boyfriend is trying his best to reassure me and calm me down in ways he best knows how with little avail. He eventually distracts me from the guy by finding a perfect side table for what I was looking for. Dark cherry wood glass door shelves. Absolutely beautiful and only $30, not to mention a student discount. We pick it up and head to checkout and the entire time I am paranoid and looking around to see if this guy is near us. He is currently being checked out at the register and we are being separated by two other customers. My anxiety spikes again but I try not to let it show. When he is done he walks through the first set of doors to exit but is still in the first entrance of the store just standing there. He looks at me and we make eye contact a few times while I am in line and then checking out. I make it a point to stand on the right side of my boyfriend carrying my new find out and holding eye contact with the creep the whole time. We exit and get into the car. He doesn't say or do anything, he didn't follow us, he just stared at me and we get into the car safely. Although I am still paranoid and trying to get the side table in the car and secured as fast as possible, which is just making me fumble even more. But regardless we left safe and made it home okay. I can't say for certain that this man was trying to abduct me, let alone if he was working with traffickers, but I highly doubt he was chasing and stalking me around the store with Pure Intentions. I just want to start off and say that before this incident I have always been a skeptic of the paranormal. Growing up, my mom and dad would tell me stories that they encountered with the paranormal in their early years, so I always had an open mind to the possibility. But since I personally haven't encountered anything, I have always thought if I didn't see it then there might have been a logical explanation to their experience, so who knows if it's actually true? Moving on to the incident that made me a believer. This all happened back in the early fall of 2011. Me, my son and his mother lived in a two bedroom second floor apartment on the east side of Cincinnati, Ohio. My son at the time was a little over two years old and was starting to say words and communicate in ways typical kids his age would say or do with body language and gestures. I say that because this ties in with the story later on. On this particular afternoon, his mother was over at her mother's house for the past two days and was staying one more night there to help her cope with the loss of a relative that recently passed. So me and my son, who I will call Kevin to protect his identity, had the place to ourselves for the night. Around 5pm that early evening I invited my longtime buddy, who I'll call Tony, who I've known since fifth grade and also lived downstairs in the same apartment building, over to my place to watch a baseball game. I also called my dad over to my place to partake in the makeshift guys night I set up during the game. Everything is going well, we ordered pizza and soda and we were having a good time during all of that. For reasons I can't remember, my dad started retelling me and my buddy his paranormal experiences that he told to us as kids. Even in our mid twenties we still felt like nine year old boys hearing those ghost stories for the first time. Regardless of my skepticism, my dad is an amazing storyteller so hearing them again is never a drag. With that said, it's approaching 10pm at this point and the baseball game was over so my dad headed out to make it back home at a decent hour. Tony stuck around a few more minutes to smoke a cigarette with me on my balcony and then head back down to his place. So before bed I decide to clean up some of the pizza boxes and soda cans laying around the living room while my son was rolling his toy cars on the laminate floor in the kitchen to give you a quick layout of the apartment to get a better visual as this story continues to the creepy stuff as soon as you walk in the door of my second floor apartment, the opening to the kitchen is right in front of you. To the right is the small closet and to the left is the living and dining room. If you were to be standing in between the living room and dining room, straight ahead opposite the wall where the front door is, there's the opening to the hallway going left and right to each bedroom and straight ahead is the bathroom. So let's get to where things get spooky. Remember me saying my son was just starting to communicate with words and gestures. I am in the living room, still cleaning and in the midst of my son joyfully playing with his toy cars, I hear him abruptly stop it Johnny. And then immediately began to cry. I froze. We didn't know a Johnny so how does he know this name? I think to myself. I then head into the kitchen to see my son on the floor holding his hand in tears. I get down to examine it but see no injuries, no red marks, no blood, etc. I quickly calm him down and asked him what happened. It was at this point he turns his body and points at the kitchen wall and says in mumbled cries, crying two year old Broken English Johnny in the hole in the wall. Every hair on my body stood up, met with a shiver down my spine. To give you an idea of how terrifying it was seeing my young child point towards a wall and say a random man's name. Kids at that age don't fully grasp the concept of lying or playing a prank. If he is pointing at something and calling it by name, that means he had learned it and is doing his best to communicate with me about what he'd experienced. It was in that moment I knew I had to get out of there. So I picked him up and grabbed my keys, wallet, phone and phone charger and was heading to my dad's for the night. He lived 10 minutes up the road. But then it hit me. I would need the mattress from his car bed. See, behind that wall my son pointed at was his bedroom. I stared at the door handle for a moment debating whether or not to just leave, but knew if I was going to that I at least need his mattress. With a swift jog into the bedroom, I pulled that bed up with one hand and got out of there asap. I leave, calling my dad and waking him up, telling him that I was heading there for the night and that I would explain it all to him. When I got there. He said he would leave his door open and to just come on in when I get there. Now this story isn't over yet. It gets even weirder. As I was driving to my dad's, I decided to call my buddy Tony to tell him what happened. Immediately upon him learning that I bolted out of the apartment in a manner that I did, he laughed. I can't blame him. I'd probably laugh at me too if I heard he ran out with a toddler in one hand and mattress in the other at 10:30 at night. But I wasn't him. My son saw an entity in our apartment and I was seriously considering never going back. However, in the middle of his laughter, he remembered something. He stops and says, hey, wasn't Johnny the name of Fran's husbands that used to live there? Let's rewind to a few months back. I was just moving into the apartment, unloading things from my pickup truck, and I noticed a sweet little old lady walking her dogs out in the courtyard in front of the apartment complex. As I was walking by her, I introduced myself and told her I was moving into the building. She introduced herself as Frances, but went by Fran, by people who knew her. We exchanged pleasantries as I walked into the building. She followed because her two little pups finished their business and we all started walking upstairs to the second floor to our apartments. My apartment was on the corner of the building, so I went left when I got up there and Fran went straight to her apartment. But as I was walking to mine, her little dogs followed me. I said, wow, I must have made a great first impression. But Fran replied, no, honey, I actually used to live in that apartment with my husband for 15, but when he died six months ago, I couldn't live there anymore and had to move. I sat there not knowing what to really say besides, oh, I'm so sorry for your loss. Fran replies with a slight frown on her face, it's not your fault. When it's our time, it's our time. And then immediately follows up with and just to let you know, he didn't die in that apartment. It was at the hospital. I immediately reply with I wasn't thinking that, but thanks for at least letting me know. But in the back of my head I was wondering that and glad she informed me. Fast forward back to the night of the incident. My buddy Tony tells me I probably need to talk to Fran about what happened and to maybe see if she had a picture of him and to see if my son could point him out, just to see if that's what really happened. I tell him I'm not Sure how I feel about bringing this up to her, not trying to stir her emotions not even a year after her husband's death. We hang up and I arrived at my dad's. I go in and explain everything to him. He understands and then during the night, convinces me that I need to talk to Fran as soon as I could to make sure that Kevin saw her husband in the apartment instead of something possibly sinister. So the next day I decided to do it. I decided to bring this up to Fran and not to just clear up if my son saw the ghost of her deceased husband in my apartment. But if it were him, maybe Fran could get some comfort in knowing that her husband was still there for her. I pull up and who do I see outside walking her dogs? You guessed it, Fran. I approach her saying if she has a few minutes, I would like to talk to her in private about something important. Confused, she politely invites me up to her place to talk. We go in and sit down on our couch. I start off with informing her that I wasn't there to tell her any BS considering how the last year has gone for her. She looks at me, still confused, so I tell her that I'll just get right to it. I tell her that I think my son saw her husband in my apartment and told her to just give me a few minutes to explain why I thought that I told her the story and how I thought if this wasn't her husband, that I would like to at least make sure that it was nothing sinister before I bring my kid back in there. She understood, but seemed skeptical. I can't blame her. I would be too. Hearing all of that, I then asked Fran if she had a picture of Johnny, perhaps one with him with multiple other men in it, so that if my son points him out, that it would prove even more that he did see him. She obliged and brought out an old photo album from her bedroom. She opens it and flicks a few pages over and then shows us a photo of three men. In the photo, it looked like three guys at a cookout enjoying each other's company around the grill. I then asked Kevin if he remembers Johnny that he saw last night. He looked at me and nodded his head yes. I look over at the photo and ask my son to point Johnny out to us. He walks right up to it and heavens to betsy, he without hesitation points right at Johnny. Fran immediately broke into tears and I was right behind her. I reached over and hugged her as we both cried. She said in a sobbing voice that almost a whole year has passed and that she was feeling alone. Her husband for 27 years died and she had really nobody and to know that he was still here looking after her took away some of that loneliness. After wiping away the tears, I told her that anytime she wanted to come in there and talk to him alone to just let me know. She said that she would and I told her that I was going to hold her to that. She then told me what probably happened was when my son was playing in the kitchen, that he might have reached into the drawer where we kept certain steak knives and that Johnny possibly closed the drawer on his fingers and was making sure he didn't get a hold of those knives.