Transcript
A (0:00)
Can you tell me about how you did ultimately get arrested?
B (0:08)
This all started a few years back when I wanted to sell my business.
A (0:20)
Carlos Rafael was once in the fishing business. He owned the biggest fish plant and the biggest fleet of boats in the most valuable fishing port in America, Newborn Bedford, Massachusetts. And he had built it all himself. Around the docks, people called him the Codfather.
B (0:39)
The name of the game is sharpen your knife.
A (0:43)
For decades, Carlos seemed unstoppable, unbeatable. And no one was quite sure how he was able to keep it up.
B (0:51)
Never has there been a ban this long.
A (0:53)
Even as the fishing industry struggled all around him. A dramatic 77% cut in in the cod catch. Carlos kept on growing. But underneath that juggernaut of a business, there was a secret.
C (1:08)
Some agencies thought he was involved in human trafficking or smuggling. Some people thought it was drugs.
A (1:12)
A secret that Carlos guarded very carefully.
B (1:15)
Those are both names? Yes.
A (1:16)
Until he slipped up.
B (1:18)
Hi, this is Xavier. How you doing? That's the salesman. How's it going? I'm Bob.
A (1:25)
Sergey.
B (1:25)
Hello. Hello. I regret that for the rest of my life. That son of a bitch. They would have never, never got me. But hey, it's over.
A (1:47)
I knew all of this already. When I sat down to talk with Carlos Rafael. What I wanted to know was why he did it, why he risked everything, why he broke the law.
B (1:59)
It was not for the money.
A (2:01)
And the deeper I looked, the more complicated that question became. Because Carlos Rafael is a complicated man.
C (2:10)
When you first met him, you'd say, oh, this guy's a mafiaso. But actually, he had a heart in the fishing industry.