Joe Mande

Summary

Podcast Summary: Senses Working Overtime with David Cross – Episode Featuring Joe Mande

Episode Details:

• Title: Senses Working Overtime with David Cross
• Host: David Cross (Hosted on Headgum)
• Guest: Joe Mande
• Release Date: June 5, 2025

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1. Introduction and Initial Banter [01:15 - 03:02]

The episode kicks off with David Cross and guest Joe Mande diving into a lighthearted discussion about everyday topics. They begin by talking about purchasing Bombas socks, highlighting the brand's philanthropic model where buying a pair donates another to those in need.

Notable Quote:

• David Cross ([01:15]): "So when you buy a pair of super comfortable socks, Bombus socks, you're also donating a pair."

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2. Exploring Local Cuisine and Culinary Preferences [03:02 - 04:34]

The conversation shifts to food, specifically discussing a local pizza place called PJ Palace. They delve into the variety and fusion of flavors, such as Indian-inspired pizza toppings like green chutney cream cheese. Joe shares his experience with similar fusion dishes in Brooklyn, expressing enthusiasm for innovative culinary combinations.

Notable Quote:

• Joe Mande ([03:18]): "It's a green chutney pizza. It's really. I mean, it's like one of my favorite restaurants here."

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3. Joe’s Embroidery Hobby During Lockdown [04:34 - 12:29]

Joe Mande opens up about his creative outlet during the COVID-19 lockdown. He took up embroidery as a way to channel his nervousness and started creating unique designs on hats, such as substituting the LA Dodgers logo with whimsical phrases like "lasagna." This hobby not only provided him solace but also led to creative gifts for friends.

Notable Quote:

• Joe Mande ([09:45]): "I do love lemons. And I was in the midst of a sort of public embroidery meltdown during COVID where I was teaching myself how to embroider and was embroidering a lot of hats."

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4. Attempting to Learn the Banjo [12:29 - 14:35]

David shares his own struggles with learning the banjo, humorously recounting his failed attempts to master it amidst a busy schedule and the challenges posed by online learning during the pandemic. This segment adds a relatable touch, highlighting the difficulties of picking up new skills later in life.

Notable Quote:

• David Cross ([13:00]): "The learning curve is so hard on that day."

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5. Stand-Up Comedy and Performance Experiences [14:35 - 46:34]

The dialogue transitions to Joe’s career in stand-up comedy. He discusses the ups and downs of performing live, especially internationally. Joe recounts experiences performing in various European cities, dealing with different audiences, and the unpredictability of comedy reception. He highlights moments when his material didn’t land well and contrasts them with instances of great success, emphasizing the volatile nature of live performances.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Mande ([43:03]): "I have never done that. I've only done England. And I'm always curious how things land."
• David Cross ([44:16]): "That's top five for both."

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6. The Challenges of Touring Europe [46:34 - 55:04]

Joe elaborates on his tour across Europe, performing in cities like Bruges, Cologne, Amsterdam, and London. He touches on logistical aspects, such as language barriers and cultural differences, and shares anecdotes about adapting his comedy to diverse audiences. The conversation includes humorous exchanges about navigating local customs and the quirks of performing abroad.

Notable Quote:

• Joe Mande ([47:14]): "They have a little shepherd's pie and a pineapple of kiss."

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7. Comedy Special Promotions and Future Projects [55:04 - 68:14]

In the latter part of the episode, Joe promotes his comedy specials. He discusses his current work available on platforms like Hulu, Disney Plus, and Netflix. Joe mentions upcoming projects, including a crowd work-focused special titled "Interrupting My Riff." The segment is interspersed with playful banter about accessing his content and navigating streaming platforms.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Mande ([58:59]): "Well, it's gonna get loud and uncomfortable here for a minute, and we'll be able to cut this out in post."
• Joe Mande ([66:06]): "I think that's the end. That's my answer."

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8. Light-Hearted Closing and Final Thoughts [68:14 - 70:02]

As the episode nears its end, David Cross and Joe Mande engage in a humorous skit involving signing legal documents, highlighting the informal and jovial atmosphere of the podcast. They wrap up with final promotions of Joe’s work and a whimsical question from David’s daughter about the appearance of snowflakes, adding a personal and endearing touch to the episode.

Notable Quote:

• David Cross ([65:25]): "Why does a snowflake look like a dot when in real life it looks like this?"

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Conclusion

This episode of Senses Working Overtime with David Cross blends casual conversation, personal anecdotes, and professional insights, offering listeners a comprehensive look into Joe Mande’s creative journey and stand-up comedy career. From navigating creative hobbies during lockdown to the unpredictable world of international comedy performances, Joe provides an engaging and humorous narrative. The episode successfully balances lighthearted banter with meaningful discussions, making it a valuable listen for fans and newcomers alike.

Key Takeaways:

• The importance of creative outlets during challenging times.
• The unpredictable nature of live performances and audience reception.
• The blend of personal experiences with professional endeavors in the world of comedy.

Where to Watch Joe Mande’s Specials:

• "Chill" – Available on Hulu and Disney Plus, with upcoming releases on YouTube.
• "Joe Mandy's Award-Winning Comedy Special" – Available on Netflix.
• Upcoming Project: "Interrupting My Riff" – Focused on crowd work, soon to be available on YouTube and other platforms.

Audio Highlights:

• Embroidery Insights ([09:45]): "I do love lemons...embroidering a lot of hats."
• Comedy Challenges ([43:03]): "I have never done that. I've only done England."
• Personal Anecdotes ([65:25]): "Why does a snowflake look like a dot when in real life it looks like this?"

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End of Summary

Transcript

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You tell me.

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You know, you don't even tell me.

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Show me.

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Yeah, I'll do this.

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Really? All right, that's fine then I'll sit here. I don't like the gap in between.

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Well, let's do that. I'll do this, though.

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Are you sure?

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In the middle? Yeah. All right.

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Yeah, that's not really the middle of this. I mean, in a sense it is, I suppose. Sorry, I'm. I'm usually very quite punctual.

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No, I was. I got here early. I live literally up one block up.

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Oh, really? Yeah, I. When I. When I come out here to do these. Is this right, Casey? Like this? I can change it if you want it further away. No, it just doesn't allow a whole lot of room here. It's fine. It's fine. It's a glass of water. Okay. Yeah, I always. I walked here myself. I always get an Airbnb and they don't give you the exact address, but hopefully within a mile. So I can walk here.

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Wait, what? Like, you don't know exactly where you're staying?

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No, I mean, you do. I think they give it to you.

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Oh, so you haven't, like. You haven't, like, gone into the Airbnb yet?

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No, I have. I. No, I got here on my right. Maybe I'm misunderstanding. You're asking when.

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I guess the new question is how close are. How far was your walk?

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Oh, I don't know. Maybe I'm over by the. I'm off of, you know, where Happy Foot sad Foot used to be. So I'm off of that.

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Okay. Have you been to pj?

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I haven't.

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It's really good.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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I thought it was. Up until two days ago, I thought it was Pizza palace because.

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Yes, I was like, this is a terrible font because it looks like pizza. And then learned it is specifically.

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But they also have a illustration of a piece of pizza. It's.

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It's pizza. It's a fusion of Indian and. And pizza.

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Oh, I didn't know that.

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Yeah. So apija. I guess I'm. I'm a bit ignorant on it, but it is like a form of Indian food.

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Oh, wow. You know, there's a. Where I live in Brooklyn, there's a place that is Indian. It's, you know, Indian first, but then they have pizza and it's. And it's like, you know, all kind of American kind of tikka masala pizza. And I. And I was like. I don't know if that would work.

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Yeah, no, like, they have a rigatoni there that instead of red sauce, it's like makani sauce or whatever.

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And it's like that. But that seems like it would stand up more than. Than pizza.

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The pizza. They have like a chutney one that's really good.

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Oh, yeah. The hot one, like a lime.

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Yeah, it's a green chutney pizza. It's really. I mean, it's like one of my favorite restaurants here.

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Wow. Okay. I gotta check it out.

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And it shouldn't work because it's like a loud sports bar.

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Yeah.

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Like huge TVs often playing.

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I passed by it every. And. And the last time I was here, I don't know when was it? Casey was like half a year ago, something like that. And because it had. It was open then and I passed by and it was. It just didn't look inviting for a. By yourself?

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No, for sure.

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Not like I'm gonna pop in here.

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How good the food is that you. It like.

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But it's packed. It's like so Pia pija palace.

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Yeah.

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Two Js. P, I, J, J. But there. It's like a scribbly cursive. So it looks like pizza.

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It looks like.

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And there is a. And they do symbol of pizza.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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So I thought it was a pizza place.

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Yeah, it technically is, but it's more. More than that. Yeah.

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All right, well, I'll check it out. If I could find a friend who would go. Somebody who lives nearby would accompany me.

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Yeah. If you find someone.

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Yeah, I'll just. I'll. I guess I'll reach out to those in my Proximity.

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Yeah. Maybe the. You could ask people who.

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I could ask whose house.

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You're Airbnb, if they know anyone.

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Yeah, that's one way. I suppose that's one thing to do. I guess there are several options. You could just start asking people who live. Who've already told me that they live nearby and are familiar with the restaurant and really like it. That's one thing I could do.

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Trying to think who lives around here other than me.

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Well, you. Right, you. And then. So you must know people that know.

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Yeah.

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My friend Noah lives nearby, so no one knows you.

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Yeah.

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Okay. So maybe I'll ask Noah if he knows anybody.

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Yeah, that'd be good.

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That near that he knows a lot.

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Of people around here. Yeah.

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Yeah. So he must know you because he's your friend.

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Yeah, we go. We actually go to PJ Palace a lot.

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Do you?

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Yeah, yeah.

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And with the, like, full table, or is there always room, like a four.

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Top and so there's, like, two seats open and is that a kind of.

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Thing that you're, like. You feel a little awkward, like. I wish we could fill this out.

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We. Yeah, Especially because, like, often there are people who are standing by themselves waiting for a table, you know, and we don't know them, so it's just two open seats.

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But if you did know somebody.

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Yeah.

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Who had expressed an interest in going there and perhaps joining you and your. Your friend Noah.

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Yeah.

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Somebody who actually, like, verbally reached out and expressed a desire to go.

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Yeah. I guess in that case, like, theoretically, we would. There would be two open seats. Yeah. So at least one of them could be filled. Yeah.

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All right. Well, if you find anybody that you. That is verbally expressed, then maybe I'll hop on with them.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. Anytime. If you find someone else. Yeah, for sure.

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What? And just for the sake of argument, what if I don't find somebody else? Yeah.

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Again, I can ask Noah if he knows anyone. That's the first thing that comes to mind. Yeah. Noah knows a lot of people.

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Yeah.

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You don't know Garfinkel is his name.

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That sounds familiar.

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Yeah.

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Garfinkle sounds familiar.

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Yeah.

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Sounds more familiar than Noah, mostly.

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Right. Well, Garfunkel sounds a lot.

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That sounds really familiar.

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Right?

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Yeah. But then I. I've always enjoyed taking. Substituting a different vowel. So there's Gar. Garfunkel, and then Garfinkle, and then Garfunkel, Garfunkel, Garfunkel and Garfunkel. And then sometimes. Why Garfiankel.

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Garfiankel. Yeah.

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You know, are. I mean, that's just fun to do. I do that on my own.

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Right.

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On the flight over here from. From New York, I did that just the whole time. Yeah.

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With that specific flight tracker on.

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And I watched the flight and I just did it with Garfunkel. And then I would look around and have kind of a conversation with other people, but in my head.

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Right.

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And then I. You know.

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And then you've landed.

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And then I've landed.

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Yeah.

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And then it kills six hours, goes flying, and you're just. Literally and figuratively. And hey, here's a. Here's a question that's a legit question. Why did the guy throw his clock out the window?

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Oh, I know this one. Something about flat T. Time. To see time.

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To see time. Yeah. That's the answer. To see time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Because he couldn't. He wasn't able to open up his eyes until it left the threshold of the window and got outside. Yeah. Then he was able to open his eyes just for a brief second. Was able to see time.

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I was scared for something. I didn't know it. Yeah.

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Joe, can you explain your shirt? That's a. I see. I like it. I like it. It's the Champion logo.

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Champion logo.

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But it's on a. Well articulated there, Lem. Yeah. With a slice of lemon next to it. So what is the significance?

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It was a present from my wife.

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Oh, she knows you so well.

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She. I do love lemons. And I was in the midst of a sort of public embroidery meltdown during COVID where I was. I taught myself how to embroider and was embroidering a lot of hats. And so I think it was a very thoughtful gift at that moment in time to give. Get a.

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So that's. That was designed for you?

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I think it was like a. Some sort of conglomerate. It was like a Mac. What's the term? The Champion and some company work together to make lemons.

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Lemons United.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Lemons International.

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Exactly. Yeah.

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What would the company be? It would be a lemon citrus.

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A citrus embroidery outfit. Yeah.

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So tell me more about the embroidery thing. Do you still do it?

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I don't anymore. It was fully like a way to channel my nervousness and agitation during lockdown. And so I had a hat that had the LA Dodgers logo, and I just embroidered the word lasagna La Zagna. And then got a very nice compliment from the woman who tested me for Covid at Dodger Stadium.

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Okay.

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And she said, you should make more of those. And so then I bought Dozens of hats off the Internet. And whatever word came to me would be the word I embroidered. Specifically, San Diego Padres was like Shelley Duvall. That was. I remember that. And then I started making for my friends. So, like, I made one the Detroit. The hardest one I did was the Detroit Tigers hat, which is sort of a old English font.

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Right.

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In old English font, I wrote the word Dershowitz on.

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Wow.

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Yeah. And that was for a friend who requested Alan Dershowitz. Yes, for Alan Dershowitz. Yeah. Wow, wow, wow. Yeah.

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So what'd you make? Which one did you make for Noah?

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Noah got one that. It was the Tampa Bay Rays and I did roast beef. So the T and B were not in the. They were in the middle rather than I was. I was really exploring.

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Wait, I'm trying to think of the logo. Tb.

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Tb. So then be. Ros. Tb. E.

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Oh, I see. T being the end of roast and not the ray. R and ray. Right. Roast beef. Yeah.

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I mean, I really. I was really going for it. I was really doing something for a.

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While and it just. It kind of. You lost interest just over time.

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Yeah. Like the world opened. Open back up and I was able to. Yeah.

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How are you spending your free time now?

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Yeah, mostly knitting. No, just I've been doing stand up and working again. Like, it was fully. Like, I was just going crazy. Unemployed. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, that's.

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That's great. I admire that. I. I had so many ideas of what I was going to do, and here's the perfect opportunity. Maybe perfect isn't the right word.

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Right.

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It's an opportunity. And. And I didn't do.

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Yeah.

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You know, I. I just picked. I started learning how to play banjo a long time ago. Picking, not strumming.

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Yeah.

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Then I. As. I was like learning that I had to go to LA to work for, you know, nine months and I brought my banjo with me, but the only teacher I could find, they didn't have a Steve Martin. Steve Martin was. Was it. And he lived in the. There's like an efficiency flat that he. Surprisingly.

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Yeah.

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But a guy who taught me strumming because he. I couldn't find a picker guy, so. All right. So I started that. But not great. You know, I barely. You know, I was really, really, really, really busy and. And so I wasn't like, spending enough time doing it. Then I came back here and then I started again and. And then I. My daughter was born and that was that. And then the banjo sat in my office and there's a little bit of muscle memory that I'VE got but not much. And then during COVID I was like, okay, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna go online. I can go on YouTube now and just. I'm gonna do it. And I think I did two or three lessons and it was. The learning curve is so hard on that day.

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I, I tried learning banjo in high school.

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It's hard, really hard.

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And I, I've just learned over the years I literally have no sense of, of rhythm so I can't really play any.

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So just drums.

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Yeah, I just focus on drums and it's really hard if you don't have rhythm.

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Rhythm.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You gotta take that pill. You gotta wait an hour before you start.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I, I, I had, you know, there was projects I was gonna do and all this I didn't do well. Played video games. I went through a lot of video games.

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Oh really?

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But I wish and I admire and I, and I am jealous and almost a little ashamed in retrospect at every once in a while I'll run into somebody, you know, if a friend of Noah's say who spent their time creatively and practically and I just didn't. And I had all these ideas. It just, I guess I'd say that pre Covid I had all these ideas of you know what I may just this thought that I could do this thing. Not that I was going to do it, but I was capable of it. And maybe someday only the world shut.

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Down for six months or just the.

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Idea that I can just sort of retire, go live in the woods. I have a place upstate in the middle of nowhere. I'll just go up there and I'll read and I'll learn banjo and I'll chop my own wood and blah blah blah, whatever those things are. And then I. That happened.

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Yeah.

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And I didn't do right.

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Right.

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Because I'm lazy and I, I'd rather play video games.

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But affidiate. I mean like there. I don't. It was such a maddening time. Like I don't, I know it wasn't like I was doing. I wasn't like it wasn't a peaceful. I was tiring fully like crazed. It was doing.

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It was awful. I had a three year old who turned four during. And we were in Toronto and locked in Toronto. I mean it was on lockdown. Like not, not in a. That is, that is not exaggeration. I mean they had very strict rules. Nothing was open. It was winter and my wife had to do the 14 day quarantine three times. What three fucking times.

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Because of work?

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Yeah, because of work. And we had to go there because of work.

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Right.

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And as stuff was opening up here and I'm getting messages and little videos from my friends. Vanderbilt is, they have this thing called open streets and all the kids are out there and they shut down. There's no traffic and everybody's eating outside. It's wonderful. And I'm locked. You know, Doug Ford is my acting may not mayor. The premier of Ontario.

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Yeah.

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And just every fucking bad choice.

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Right.

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And it was his brother was the, was the mayor Rob for. Yeah, he was the mayor of Toronto. Crackhead.

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That was like from afar. I mean it's so funny in retrospect being like, can you imagine having a leader that out. Out of his mind?

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And there was, yeah, there was fucking video of him going to these houses, you know, the council flats, whatever it is, and smoking crackers. Video that he allowed on a cell phone. And he's smoking crack with these guys.

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I mean. Yeah.

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And yeah. Oh there is America's. I mean Trump being the ultimate example. But America's filled with like history of re electing people who spent time in jail for fraud where it was not like it's unclear but a it was people they tried convicted, evidence.

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We love second chances. Yeah, we just do.

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Who's the, the Providence, Rhode island guy, Right. Buddy Sianki. Is that his name?

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I don't know.

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Is Casey? No.

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Was he like mobbed up?

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Well, Providence Is a big mob. I don't know, but my guess is probably. Yeah, but he was either governor. No, he was mayor of Providence, I think, and then went to jail, served his time.

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The British guy who pretend. The guy who moved to Britain and then pretended to be. He was like, in a wheelchair and pretended to be like a prince.

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Daniel Day Lewis.

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Yeah. Yeah. Shit. What's that guy's name? He was.

[B]

Wait, what are you talking about?

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A con artist who was always wearing an oxygen mask. It was like a few years ago. And he was clearly faking a British accent and pretending to be a prince or a friend.

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I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Oh, man.

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I know what you're.

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Yeah, look, that guy. But he.

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Wait, I want to hear more about this. He.

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He was a. Like a con artist.

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American.

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American. Clearly pretending to have a British accent.

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Like, you can tell. You listen. And like, so it's terrible.

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And he was wanted in America. He was a wanted man from Providence for being a con artist in Providence. And the whole time he's like, I'm. I'm not so. And so I am. I'm from England.

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Oh, my God.

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From England. Governor. Like, he was like, fully, like, doing, like, a heart. Yeah. And he had a. He had like a wife that he was conning in England who swore that he was who he said he was.

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Oh, man. My arist. My aristocrat fiance turned out to be a serial con artist.

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Yes. And for whatever reason, like, he was always, like, in a wheelchair with an oxygen mask. And like, that was. That was part of his. He refused to, like, he would. Like when he took testimony or lie detector test, he always had his oxygen mask on, which obscured his face. So that's part of it. Yeah. Wow. He refused to take it off to show that.

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Oh, man.

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Yeah.

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Bob Odenkirk would love this story. He loves, like, this.

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There's a full. There's like a three part documentary on some streaming network, I think. And it's like, it's just so funny and it's.

[B]

Is that the. Casey. Is that the title of the mystery? That was the title of an article I saw, but it looks like there's something on Netflix.

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Yeah, it's so. But like, it was happening in real time. Yeah. Like a year and a half ago, it was like happening online. Like, every time there was a new clip, I was like, crying, laughing, because it was just like, so absurd. Like, like to be that bad to choose, you know? And it has so much confidence.

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It's. It's that I Mean, the fact that he got as far as he did, that people allowed him, like, I'm willing to overlook all these things that my, my brain would tell me are crazy, but I. The guy's got a little something there.

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I mean, he has some. He has some daring and some flash. He's hard not to appreciate it. Yeah, I highly recommend. I. One of the funniest interviews of all time is him proclaiming he's not the guy. He obviously is on British tv. It's so good.

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And Bridge tv, this is. How did he get to be on tv? He went to. He has a passport.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

He went to England. Got through customs.

[C]

Yeah. And then created a new identity for himself and was wanted in America. I think there was like Interpol was involved and he would start scamming people.

[B]

In England and he sets up somewhere saying that he's an aristocrat, but he's living in a efficiency flat somewhere.

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I mean, like he, like he. He roped in this woman who was.

[B]

Of wealth and so prior to going over there or.

[C]

Yes. I think he was sort of like an Internet relationship thing that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, those are the best. Yeah, those are firmly rooted. And yeah, they're. They're good. And. And you met your wife on the Internet?

[C]

We did, yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Onlyfans.

[C]

It's called Seeking Arrangements. So. Yeah, I have to pay her a lot.

[B]

Oh, it's a. So you pay her to be your wife?

[C]

Yeah, oh, yeah.

[B]

Do you have kids?

[C]

No, no, that's part of it. She won't allow it.

[B]

She'll draw the line there.

[C]

Yeah, I can't afford that.

[B]

Right. Oh, I see.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, that's a huge step.

[B]

And no kissing on the mouth. Okay, so like arm candy.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And where is she from?

[C]

One of the stands, I forget.

[B]

Turkestan.

[C]

No, no, it's the one with the.

[B]

Most consonants in a rowan of a stand.

[C]

Yeah, okay.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just north capital there.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. So she's like, you know, cosmopolitan. Yeah. Sweet.

[B]

Yeah, it's like a little Melania. Ish.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

She's legal now. I believe she was illegal. Her and her folks were. No, I meant Melania.

[C]

Oh, I know about your.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Okay, good.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And she's happy with her arrangement. And you guys have a nice.

[C]

Sought it out.

[B]

So it's her fault for. Her fault. Yeah, but is there fault involved?

[C]

Yeah. With everything. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean she sought it out, so she got what she. So.

[B]

Oh, she. You went on Seeking Arrangements. I see. It's a site for people to go to find other people seeking arrangements. Yeah, I. Well, that makes sense, but. So she puts herself out there, and you go, hey, I'm a guy American, you know, vaguely Jewish, you know, hopes that then you got to tick all those boxes.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And the Jew thing was. Was hard. Yeah, that was a hard one.

[B]

That's a tough one to get.

[C]

You have to be honest about it And.

[B]

And do you, though. Because it's just a religion. It's not like you can't say, like, I'm white and then you're black or vice versa.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So. But you could say. You don't have to say you're Jewish because it's a philosophy.

[C]

Right. But I like, you know, I do argue. I do eat bagels. There are things that are just, like, inescapably Jewish about me.

[B]

Can I offer you that in 2025? This may not go out until 2028, but. Okay, as of now, it's 2025, and there are lots of people who aren't Jewish who argue and enjoy bagels.

[C]

Okay, well, then they should just be careful when they go on this website.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

That's all I'll say, because.

[B]

So don't argue or eat a bagel while you're on the website.

[C]

I try not to.

[B]

Right. Makes sense.

[C]

It leaks out. You know, it's. All marriages have their issues and.

[B]

So. What'd she think the first time you ate a bagel?

[C]

She tried to light me on fire. And they. So, you know, it was like, I'm so. I'm sorry. This won't happen again.

[B]

You won't eat a bagel again.

[C]

Can't.

[B]

Oh, wow. You have to sneak out.

[C]

There's good bagels around here, too.

[B]

I will say that. One of the best. I know this isn't right here, but one of the best bagels I've ever had was in Highland Park.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. I want to. It starts with a B. I want to say blondies or something like that. Excellent bagels. And that's that about. And there's shitty bagels in New York. They're plenty.

[C]

I know. Yes.

[B]

I luckily happen to live down the street from what is considered the best bagel in Brooklyn and the third best bagel in all of New York City. And it is. It's great. But I will take even. Even as good as that bagel is, I'll take a Montreal bagel for sure. Any day. For sure. Over the best quote unquote, New York bagel and this place in Highland Park. Casey, would you look that up? So I can kind of give them a shout out because it's really, really good. And it's kind of a. Not that this is their intention, or maybe it was, but it's like a kind of a cross between a Montreal bagel and a New York bagel.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And it's just a kind of perfect. They both have their pros and cons. But I'll take a Montreal bagel any day.

[C]

There's a Koreatown place called Kalik Bagel.

[B]

Kalek.

[C]

Yeah. And they do a stuffed. They do a weird. Like, you rip it apart, but it's sort of almost like a stuffed crust bagel with like a habanero cream cheese inside. That is crazy good.

[B]

Is it bells on York? It must be. It must be bells. Yeah. Good bagels. Yeah, they're really good. Bell's bagels in Highland park on York Avenue. Boulevard. Avenue Street. York Boulevard. Boulevard. Boulevard.

[C]

You can tell it's York.

[B]

It's very English. Old English. It will remind you of the Lake District.

[C]

Reminds me of that guy pretending to be.

[B]

Well, they're not pretending. These are so Bell's bagels. Excellent bagels.

[C]

Caleb. Bagels also.

[B]

All right, well, listen, I.

[C]

This is your podcast.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I mean, yeah.

[B]

Joe, before we forget, or for I forget, do you have anything you would like to plug?

[C]

I have a special on Hulu that came out a couple months ago.

[B]

What's it called?

[C]

It's called Chill.

[B]

Chill?

[C]

Yeah, dude.

[B]

And where can you see it?

[C]

It's on Hulu, and I think Disney plus.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And I don't know when this comes out, but I think by April, it'll also be on YouTube somewhere.

[B]

And where can you see it?

[C]

So, yeah, Hulu, Disney plus, and maybe YouTube.

[B]

And if any of the listeners or watch watchers are looking to go see it, where would they go to see it?

[C]

I mean, you could use your phone, your tablet, your tv.

[B]

But what. How would they.

[C]

Yeah. So you could go on Hulu is the. I think the easiest one, but also Disney plus. And then what will be the easiest at some point is when it's on YouTube.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's called Chill, Joe. Mandy. And where can you see it?

[C]

Yeah, there are multiple places, honestly. Yeah.

[B]

Well, Hulu. Yep.

[C]

Disney Plus, I think.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And YouTube. And then at some point, if you live outside of the US it'll be well on YouTube.

[B]

I think that's international.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right. For those who don't live outside the US Where. Where would they go to look?

[C]

Yeah, you go on Hulu. Okay. Disney Plus, I think and then YouTube at some point.

[B]

Okay, you've mentioned YouTube repeatedly, but where else could they see it?

[C]

Yeah, Hulu. He can go on Hulu. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Is that it? Or Disney plus anywhere else?

[C]

No, but I have an old special on Netflix.

[B]

Oh, well, yeah. Where would people go to watch that?

[C]

That's on Netflix.

[B]

What's it called?

[C]

That one's called Joe Mandy's award winning comedy Special.

[B]

Oh, I like that title.

[C]

Yeah, thank you.

[B]

And where would they watch that?

[C]

That one's on Netflix. Okay. And not on YouTube. But I think there might be clips ripped off of the Netflix. On YouTube. Right, certainly. Yeah.

[B]

And. And what's the name of that one?

[C]

The service is. Is Netflix and. Oh, but sorry, yeah, Joe Manny's award winning comedy special.

[B]

And where can they watch?

[C]

That's Netflix. Not to be confused with Chill, which is on Hulu, Disney plus and maybe YouTube.

[B]

So you got two specials.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Out there. Yeah. Both on YouTube. What? One is.

[C]

One is maybe on YouTube at this point and the other is not on YouTube, I don't think. But they watch that. They watch that on Netflix. But there are clips on TikTok from that.

[B]

Okay, well, I'm not going to try to send people to TikTok. No. So if they wanted to watch your specials, where would they go?

[C]

Netflix and Hulu, Disney plus and YouTube. Yeah.

[B]

For either one.

[C]

No, Just use your discretion. Whatever. You know, just type in my name, figure it out.

[B]

That seems like a lot of work. It seems like you're asking people to do something that's a little beyond what they're expected to do. And I think you should meet them halfway. And I'm saying you have an opportunity here.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

For if people are listening to this going, hey, I want to check this guy out.

[C]

No, you're right. So Chill is on Hulu and Disney.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And Joe Mandy's award winning comedy Special is old 2017. That's on Netflix.

[B]

Oh, that is old.

[C]

Yeah. On Netflix.

[B]

That's a lot of time in between.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. And I know the rule is you have to have a new hour every year.

[B]

Every year.

[C]

You're not a real comedian.

[B]

Yes, every single year.

[C]

So that has been rough. I've had to do a lot of soul searching to really realize I'm not an actual comic.

[B]

Yeah, you're not. Not until. I mean, because you could go do crowd work.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Why don't you do a special on crowd work and put it out on. I guess. I don't know what else it's going to be. I would love a Tubi crowdwear special or NBC.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know. Or you know what you don't see very much anymore? Comedy specials on NBC or abc?

[C]

Yeah. Pbs. None. And that's.

[B]

Now it's all on. Like, you have two specials.

[C]

Yeah. And I'm working on one for to be. That's just crowd work.

[B]

Great.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

There's Joe Mandy's chilling at home.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Which can. You can watch. I know, I know. On. I'm almost positive you said it. YouTube.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

And then the Joe Mandy wins an award. And that is available also on YouTube.

[C]

Both on YouTube.

[B]

Yeah. Sweet.

[C]

Yeah. Thank you for letting me get that out there.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. People want people to be able to access, you know, some of these gems, but in a different form.

[C]

Not on Tick Tock.

[B]

Not on Tick Tock. But when do you think you'll do your crowd work special?

[C]

Yeah, you know, I think the plan is just to tape everything I do with a cell phone and then compile it into an hour.

[B]

And would you. Could you hear that? Yeah, yeah. That's me being contemplative. All right, you can have this beard back now. I just wanted it for that. What was I gonna say? I interrupted my riff. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. So we were talking about your crowd work special called Interrupting my riff. And so it's Joe Mandy interrupting my riff.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And that is available to view.

[C]

It's not yet, but it will be on to be. And YouTube. And. And Plubo.

[B]

And Plubo. What's. Which one's that one.

[C]

That. That they're trying to merge Pluto and fubu.

[B]

The clothing.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

You know what? My favorite time I've ever seen a FUBU displayed. Yeah. There was a guy. I was working on a movie. This is a while ago. FUBU had basically come out maybe a year ago of. It was. I don't know what it was, but he was like a producer. Maybe it was on a scary movie too. And he was a very clearly kind of the prototype of the kind of stocky, slightly chubby Jewish producer guy, short. And he wore FUBU all the time. And that rules. And I. That just killed me.

[C]

My favorite was, like, Fubu. And actually it was Wu Tang had like a clothing line for a while that didn't necessarily pop off the way the Wu Tang Clan expected. So it was sold primarily at, like, T.J. maxx. And there was a. There was like a couple years where like, boomer aged men who. Whose wives clearly shopped for them at TJ Maxx walk around with like, Wu Tang belt buckles. Or like, Wu Tang jeans with, like, at. With no idea of what. Or, you know what.

[B]

That's great.

[C]

What that represented.

[B]

Well, I'm sure this guy. I shouldn't say I'm sure, but I assume he didn't know.

[C]

I mean, if he was.

[B]

Fubu, stands for. For us. By Us.

[C]

Right. Where he just seemed like, I'm, you know, I'm working on Scary Movie too. Like, I'm. I'm in the club.

[B]

There you go. Yeah, maybe. Maybe that could be it. Maybe that was his, you know, entree into the culture.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. You know, it was pretty exclusionary.

[B]

Well, it's racist.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it's.

[B]

They call it what it is and let's. You don't have to be the New York Times about it. Right. Exactly.

[C]

Somewhere some called a lie. Yeah.

[B]

Not a false lie.

[C]

Right.

[B]

You. It took them six years to use the word lie when it came to Trump.

[C]

Now they're saying, like, a gesture that could be interpreted as a Roman salute. It's like, out of here. What are we doing? Why are we doing this all over again?

[B]

Yeah. The media is not. It never stopped, you know, and now, I don't know if you saw. Jeff Bezos came out saying, Yep.

[C]

Yeah, that's cool.

[B]

The Washington Post op Ed page. The editor resigned almost immediately.

[C]

He said that we can only use the. He said to write about free markets. Well, you. But to write about anything other than free markets and.

[B]

Free. What was it? It was not independence, but it was free markets and, like, it was something.

[C]

Like American Joy or something.

[B]

No, it was about, like.

[C]

Free markets was definitely one of the two buckets you were allowed to.

[B]

Yeah, it was free markets and like, independence or something like that.

[C]

Oh, yeah, personal.

[B]

Personal choice. Liberty.

[C]

Yeah, personal liberty.

[B]

Personal liberty and free markets.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

That's it.

[C]

That's it.

[B]

Anything else? They're not going to allow you to print crazy. So it can only be pro. Not even anti. No, pro free market and pro personal liberty, which Elon Musk then retweeted like. Yeah. Way to go, Jeff.

[C]

Dude. Real interesting times, huh?

[B]

Yeah. I had to do an interview this morning for some of the shows. I'll be. I'm going to Europe in April and. And like all the press I've done for this tour, which I took a chunk of time off over the winter break, but now I'm starting to go back. I'll be in Canada next week. People have asked about the title of the tour, which is the name of the tour is the End of the Beginning of The end. And I. And this was, you know, I was doing press as of, like, July and August, right. For the tour that started in September, continuing to do press throughout and before the election. You know, I. I get that question a lot. What does a title mean? And I always say, like, well, that's for you to figure out. I know what it means to me, but it's got potentially different meanings. And it's for you to figure out, you know, and. And you won't be wrong. It's whatever, you know. And now that I've been doing press and Trump is in office, I've been much more clear on what it means to me. And I was like, so the, The. It's the end of the beginning of the end. So the beginning of the end was in 2018, and that was the beginning of the end. And now that we have gone and reelected him and he's inputting everything he said he was going to input, project 20, 25, etc. It's the end of the beginning of the end, and it's just the end.

[C]

Right, Right. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So.

[C]

And that should have been clear. People should have.

[B]

People didn't, you know, they didn't. They didn't really understand.

[C]

Where are you performing in Europe?

[B]

The. I'm at the Laugh Hutch in Bruges. I'm at Dirty. Dirty Dick's Comedy Vault in Cologne, Germany.

[C]

Not the Venice one?

[B]

No, not the Venice one. I'm at Yuk Yuk's, or they had to change it because of the Canadian. So it's Yuck yuck Run amok. And that's in Amsterdam. I'll be in London at Ye Olde Laughalots Castle.

[C]

I've heard that one. I've heard that's fun. Yeah, I've heard they're good. Tall ceilings, but they're good.

[B]

Yeah, I'm. I'll be. It's weird. It's a strange. I mean, I go to Europe a bunch, but there's a lot of places that aren't that I look forward to that. I have really good shows that I'm not playing this time. Maybe it was because I was just, if, you know, in a relative sense, just there. But I'm not in Ireland anywhere. I'm not in Northern Ireland. I'm not in Glasgow. I'm not in. Gosh, where else? Those are the big ones where I'm like, oh, those are. Why am I not doing that? But I am doing. Let's see. I'm doing. Oh, gosh, Oslo, Stockholm, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, Brussels, Edinburgh, Bristol, Leeds, London, Manchester.

[C]

Those will be easy because that's English. And then the other ones might be a little more.

[B]

Yeah. Then I have a person who signs. So even if you don't know English.

[C]

Right.

[B]

If you do know asl.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Then they'll be able to. They'll sign at the. In English.

[C]

Yeah. And it's fun. It's fun to move.

[B]

It's fun to mess with them. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Berlin, Cologne. I'm sure I left a handful off, but, yeah, I've only.

[C]

I've never. Yeah, I've never done that. I've only done England. And I'm always curious how things land. I mean, I'm sure, you know, everyone speaks English.

[B]

Yeah. The people come. They're not, you know, they're not coming a day of. I don't think staring at you. That'd be weird. But in almost all those places, there is a relatively large English speaking.

[C]

It does seem like sometimes.

[B]

And expats.

[C]

Yes, of course. Yeah. But there are comics who kind of famously tour the world, and it often seems that, like, a lot of people go and just know the, like, rhythms of a joke.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Why would you pay that much money.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

To go hear Cadence?

[C]

Because it's an event.

[B]

Looking around, like, left now. Okay.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

It seems odd to me, and I don't believe you, but there, I would say my experience. And I think most comics share this. Kind of talked about it in the Scandinavian countries, and even I know. To know this now, but it still throws you a little bit. You'll, you know, you're just powering through your seat. You're not getting a whole lot of response.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

And, you know, I'm up there for an hour and 15, and. And you're like, it's just work. You know, it's not sweaty work, but it's work. And it's not. You get these little chuckles and everything, and. And you'll sit there and you'll be thinking, like, well, that sucked. They hated me. And then you'll say, all right, that's all my time. Good night. And then they go fucking nuts. And he gets standing over. I swear to God, that has happened. So. And you're like, what the. Where were you?

[C]

What was this experience?

[B]

Yeah, but.

[C]

So they just hold it in until the end.

[B]

Yeah. You know, at least for me. But I've also talked to other comics who have similar experiences where it's just, you know, the difference in the. In, you know, when everybody's laughing and you're rolling and Every year that.

[C]

That just doesn't happen.

[B]

Surely you've had a set somewhere.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Where you're working it. Working it. It's not going that well. It's not awful by any stretch, but it's just not.

[C]

If you click, you can tell. You're looking at the clock. You're like, oh, I've been up here an hour. All right.

[B]

Yeah. And then you leave and they go nuts. And you're like, okay, thank you. But I mean, you know, every place is different, but, I mean, London's gonna be great. London's always great. But I had. I believe I talked about this on this podcast, I think, but I had, within 48 hours of each other, one of the top five worst shows I've ever had in London. Two days later, one of the top five best shows. Same material.

[C]

Interesting.

[B]

Much different setting, but same material. And I shouldn't say sets. It was the experience. The experience was bad. But within 48 hours of each other, top five, and I've done. I don't know, 10,000 sets. I don't know, but top five for both.

[C]

So you're next for now. 10,000. That's the.

[B]

I am too shy. I'm sorry. I did a set last night at the Comedy Store.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

So that's one. So I've got one left.

[C]

Great. I mean.

[B]

Yeah. And then I get. And then I get. I think you go to the top of the list to get upgraded.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

When you do. Next time I go to do a set.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you go see your name and you slide up one.

[C]

Well, I've heard that there's only 250 comedians in the world that. That's been. That's been said on a different podcast.

[B]

Only 250 people who identify as.

[C]

No, no. Who, like, are, like, I think, in the level you're describing.

[B]

Oh, the 10,000.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Laugh Club. Okay.

[C]

But, you know, I've been, like, crunching the numbers, because I. That seems. That would mean at least 160 live in India and China.

[B]

Oh, so this is international.

[C]

I think so.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. And, yeah, it just. It's hard to believe, so I'm. Congratulations. That's huge.

[B]

No, thank you.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, I mean, I. I kind of figured out a way, and I'll. When we're done recording this, we'll. And we. Or I can just tell you now we can cut it, but there's a way to kind of rig the system.

[C]

Oh, yeah, no, I need to hear that.

[B]

Yeah. Because I haven't done 10,000 sets.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

There's an exaggeration based on the. I can't. Casey, can you hit the button that seals the room, please? Sure. Yeah. Okay. It's gonna get loud and uncomfortable here for a minute, and we'll. We'll be able to cut this out in post, but. And also put this on. And if you could put your fingers in there. Little. Each fingertip has to be in. Yeah, it is cold. I'm sorry about that. But it, you know, metal conducts the cold more than cloth, unfortunately. And just. You have to sign this real quick. There's a couple pages there. Don't bother reading it. Sign that.

[C]

Yeah. What's the date?

[B]

And that?

[C]

Yep.

[B]

And initial here.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And right there. And then you're done with that.

[C]

Yep. All right.

[B]

And flip it over.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And sign there.

[C]

All right. And trace my hand. I can do that quick. Okay.

[B]

Okay. And then just fill out the last couple questions there. We need the names of your specials and where people can see them.

[C]

Okay. Wait, did I say take the.

[B]

Take the glove off first before you. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

[C]

Hulu. I'll just write YouTube for both. Okay. Yep.

[B]

Good. Joe. Yeah, you may not just write YouTube for both.

[C]

It's. Okay, Hulu. I think Disney Plus. Not. Not flicks.

[B]

Could you. But I think in parentheses, I think.

[C]

Yeah, I think. And then I'll just. And then I'm trying to. I'm working on the. To be special. Interrupting my bit.

[B]

Okay, that's. And just make a note that it's all table. Crowd work.

[C]

It's all crowd work. Work. Yes, all crowd work.

[B]

Okay. Okay. No, take the question mark off.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. And then what. What's the. What are the titles?

[C]

Okay, the first. The. The. Okay, well, I'm gonna restart because I didn't do it chronologically. Okay. So the first one, Joe Mandy's award winning comedy special that's on Netflix.

[B]

And where can people see that?

[C]

That's. That's on Netflix.

[B]

And then the award one.

[C]

The award one. And then chill. That's on Hulu and Disney Plus, I think. And soon to be YouTube. And then interrupting my bit, hopefully to be. And that's all crowd work.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And I'll just trace.

[B]

And then. Yeah, and put the gloves back on. Okay. Casey, we take these downstairs and. And then have them notarized. Of course. Yeah. And then. And then just get the. Get the crew in here and is there. Do you have any medical allergies?

[C]

No, I don't think so.

[B]

Let's do a quick blood test. Super quick.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

Yeah. And then we can. Then I can get this thing going, and I will tell you how to bypass all that stuff and get yourself a 10,000. 10,000 set card.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

It's a punch card, too. And if you. When you get to 10,000, you get a free coffee.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

From where? Anywhere.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Cool.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Oh, acetaminophen. Allergic.

[B]

Oh, that's important because that has. That's a blood thinner.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, you have to say that we can't take your blood and then go.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

If I take this, it'll make my. Do you have clotting issues?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God. Do you know Ryan Sickler?

[C]

No.

[B]

Okay. You should talk to him. He has. He's clotting. Not. I mean, not this very second.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

He might be. I hope not. Yeah, but he has.

[C]

He can start clotting, so I can maybe take some of that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And I'll hook you guys up. I. He's good friends with a Noah Garflinkling.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

No Garfranklin.

[C]

No. Noah Garfunkel.

[B]

Yeah, Garfunkel.

[C]

Garfunke.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[C]

Okay. Yeah, so I'll text. Well, you know, actually, maybe the three of us can go to PJ later and I'll just get the clotting. Yeah, I'll do that.

[B]

Oh, well, there'll probably be an extra seat, I would imagine.

[C]

Usually there's a wide open seat. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So I'm not. I. Because I'm done. I have a. I'm going to interview Brian Posein in a little bit, and that'll be done. I should be done. I should be out of here around. I'm going to guess 3ish. So.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Yeah. So. So. And I mean free. Wide open. I've got.

[C]

What about Brian? You're gonna hang out with Brian?

[B]

It depends on if there's, like, another offer. Not that there's, like, there's something better to do, unless it's like, you know, I want to get a late lunch or an early dinner kind of thing, and, you know, he probably has to leave. He probably has to go right when it's over, so. But I'll be wide open, and I'm. I don't have a car. I'm just sort of walking and hanging out, and I'm. Now, I. I know the place you're talking about because I have passed it numerous times.

[C]

Which one?

[B]

Pisa Palace.

[C]

Oh, that place is so good.

[B]

I've heard. I've heard. Yeah. I would love to. To go.

[C]

I might go tonight, actually.

[B]

Because. Because I'm. I'm I'm not imposing myself. I'm just saying I'm. I am currently as of this conversation right now. I think I'm free. I'm trying to think of my schedule, actually.

[C]

If you show up to the bar by yourself, you can usually just sit right there.

[B]

At the bar. You can eat at the bar by yourself. Yeah, but they wouldn't mind if you moved and joined a table if there were people that you knew.

[C]

Yes. I mean, if there was like an open seat. I don't see why not. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, so that's great.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It seems a little like a couple extra steps, but. Okay, I will go to the bar.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What time are you all thinking of heading over there?

[C]

I gotta talk to Sickler. For sure. Let me check out. I don't know yet. Probably. It's probably revolves around Sickler's schedule. Yeah.

[B]

Well, if I just go plop myself down when it opens up and just. I just.

[C]

Yeah, they open, I think 5:30.

[B]

So I will be there at the bar, but I won't order anything because then that'd be. I wouldn't bring the food to the table. I'll just wait until.

[C]

What table?

[B]

I thought because you and Noah and Ryan, who. You don't know.

[C]

I don't. No, I don't.

[B]

Right. So you'll be there with a person that you don't know, even though there's other people.

[C]

I need to get promoted for this tip.

[B]

You need to what?

[C]

I need his clot. I need to get his clots.

[B]

Oh, no, you don't want his clots. You want the medicine that prevents.

[C]

Oh, then I'm not gonna get dinner. I thought I was getting clots.

[B]

Why would you want clots?

[C]

To. To compensate for my blood thinner.

[B]

Oh. Well, maybe we can reverse engineer the medicine he has so that I. I don't know if they. Okay.

[C]

I need medicine to clot.

[B]

Okay. They have that too.

[C]

Plotters.

[B]

Yeah, hemophiliacs, you know. What about that? Yeah, they got a clot up.

[C]

Does Sickler know hemophilia?

[B]

I don't know. I don't know.

[C]

I don't know him either.

[B]

Well, no, I do know him, but I'm saying I don't know. That's a very. How would I know whether he knows hemophiliacs?

[C]

I don't know. Maybe. No, I'm sure no one knows one. I'll just do that.

[B]

Yeah, ask Noah. Anyway, I don't. This seems way more difficult and I don't know why I'm. I'm trying to Go have dinner at Pisa Palace.

[C]

It's so good. You should.

[B]

Yes, I. You've said it a million times. I've heard that. I. I walk by, it's seems like everybody's having a good time.

[C]

So fun people are.

[B]

It doesn't even. They're just sitting there enjoying their food.

[C]

And the company there and, like, had great times. Yeah.

[B]

It seems like that's.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The case sometimes is that people don't even know each other. Are talking to each other and. And being nice.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And. And. And friendly and considerate.

[C]

Right. And I will. You know what? I'm gonna ask Sickler to come. I don't know him, but even.

[B]

Right.

[C]

But I don't even need his medicine.

[B]

I think that's just three people is what I'm saying. So you have an extra seat. You'd have an extra.

[C]

Is he allergic to chutney?

[B]

I don't know. Joe. I don't know. Ask him. I don't know.

[C]

Don't know him.

[B]

You know, Casey, we've known each other. We're not best of friends, but we certainly have known each other for a little while now. Right? You've known me. Right. Do you know whether I'm allergic to fucking chutney? I'm not sure. No. No. Why would you? There are things we don't know about people. We can't make assumptions.

[C]

I know for a fact Noah's not allergic to chutney because we get that pizza all the time.

[B]

Okay. So good. Okay. Sure. That's. You've made an observation based on real world situation. But we can't assume whether somebody knows whether somebody is allergic to any given food or acetaminophen.

[C]

That's what I'm trying to say. Is that like.

[B]

No, you already said that. So I know now that you're allergic to it because you said it to me.

[C]

Right.

[B]

If somebody said to me, I'm allergic to chutney, I would know that they're allergic to chutney. But because somebody didn't say it doesn't mean therefore. Oh, they're probably.

[C]

So am I not learning how to get 10,000 sets? Is that what's happening here?

[B]

I asked for very little. I really do. I don't ask for a lot. If. When you come into.

[C]

You ask for my Social Security number, Right. What medicine I'm allergic to.

[B]

Right.

[C]

My mother's maiden name.

[B]

Right.

[C]

It's a lot.

[B]

Yeah, but that is so that you can undergo a process. I. I'm just trying to have a dinner at this place that I Wanted to go to that.

[C]

I. Oh, you should just said that we can't get dinner. Bring sickler dude at Pisa Palace. Yeah, I didn't. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I was dropping hints all over the place.

[C]

I've been saying I'm kind of a goo.

[B]

Joe. Oh, my go.

[C]

So good.

[B]

I. Okay. I've been saying I wanted to. So I can join you.

[C]

Not tonight, but. Yeah, at some point.

[B]

Well, I have to leave. I have to go back to New York, so. When? Tomorrow night.

[C]

I'm busy tomorrow. Okay.

[B]

Why not tonight? You had stated mere minutes ago that you would go there with. Yeah.

[C]

Plans with. No. Noah doesn't know you, but it's the.

[B]

Kind of place where you just get to know your seat mates. Right. It's fun. It's convivial. It's that kind of vibe. And I see it all the time. I see. And I. And. And just in the.

[C]

Let me just. Let me just check with Noah first. Let me just check with Noah first.

[B]

I'll tell you what I would. Can I extend an invitation? Is he a. What does he do for a living?

[C]

He's a comic. He's a writer.

[B]

Let's get him on the show. Let's get him on the show. And when Joe's not here, when Joe's nowhere around and just for the experiment part of it, it'll be fun. And then I'll. I'll. I'll bring up Pisa palace and I'll see what he has to say.

[C]

Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna say that's good. It's delicious.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. See if he's up for heading down there one day.

[C]

You know, Be fun. Is like St. Patrick's Day. Are you a veil? St. Patrick's no, because that's like a green chucky pizza. It'll be kind of fun.

[B]

I don't. I don't celebrate or I don't go to places where there is a celebration of St. Patrick's Day. Yeah.

[C]

What racist reasons?

[B]

No, I. It's just too crazy and just drunk people and throwing up and fighting and.

[C]

These seem like stereotypes of.

[B]

Yeah. And so I avoid that. And I will go. I'll just. I'll go to Dublin, you know.

[C]

Really? You go straight to the source?

[B]

Yeah, I go to Dublin to celebrate.

[C]

They're pretty lowkey there.

[B]

They're very lowkey.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. They have a little shepherd's pie and a. A pine turtle of kiss.

[C]

He's doing voices.

[B]

Yeah. I'm a master. Master of illusion. And then. Yeah. And then I head back later. You Know, later on, take a red eye back home. Yeah. Just to avoid New York.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Want to avoid New York. St. Patrick's Day. It's like there's two. Two times you. There's three times you want to avoid St. Patrick's Day, but you definitely want to be. So I go to Dublin, and then you want to avoid July 28, and you want to avoid September 11, but you definitely want to be there in New Year's and Santacon. You want to be there during Santa Con.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Have you experienced Santacon? Please tell me they don't have that here. Well, this is a dry. You can't drive and drink like they did.

[C]

Yeah, I have experienced Santa Con. Yeah.

[B]

In New York.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's.

[C]

It's awful.

[B]

One of the worst. Absolute worst things.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I. This is for real. Well. Oh, gosh. It was. Would have been when Covid. Would have been the first SantaCon after Covid. But I was. I told my daughter we would go. She liked hot dogs. And I was like, oh, there's a really good hot dog in the East Village. And we'll just take. Hop on the subway. You want to have a hot dog, and we'll go to Tompkins Square park. And, you know, daddy used to live over there and blah, blah. And so I took her, and she was younger, so she would have been about maybe five. And I had the little stroller, and we went down and went to the subway. She loves taking the subway. I went to East Village. I'm taking the stroller up the second Avenue at the train. You know what I'm talking about? And as I'm carrying it, I see, you know, as your vision reveals more and more. I see the black boots and the fur.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And there's piles of garbage. And then a little more. And there's the red velvet pants. And I'm hearing more like, you know, you, Tony, and.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm like, that's the voice of Santa.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No. And I had no idea, because they do it in, like, you know, the 3rd of December, whatever it is.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And it. And when it started, I lived in the East Village when it was starting. And people now, it's like they're. They will put signs that are not homemade, that they're manufactured, saying, if you are wearing a sand outfit, you are not to come into this establishment. No.

[C]

Are putting wood up.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's bad.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And, you know, what started as a couple hundred people is now like 10,000 people from all over. And they're Just fucking drunk and pissing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And my daughter, I'm bringing her up and I'm like, oh, no way. And it was sucked. Ruined the experience.

[C]

But you still got the hot dog.

[B]

We got the hot dog. It wasn't very good. And it was cold, so it was. Kind of got cold. But you have to wait. There's just. You can't navigate the street.

[C]

No.

[B]

And there's people running out in the streets and cars are honking, trying to avoid hitting drunk people. And this was early. This was, I'm gonna guess, 6:00pm Yeah, 6:00pm and they. What time did they start? Like, it's usually around three. Afternoon. Two some. So it wasn't even bad, bad, bad, bad yet. And there were still fights and people throwing up and pissing and like. Like, just the worst.

[C]

It was. Boston's really bad for that, huh?

[B]

I would have figured that.

[C]

I just remember St. Patrick's Day in Boston. People like vomiting.

[B]

Oh, dude.

[C]

Binge drinking at like 8am Dude, I.

[B]

Lived in Boston for nine years. And it is. That's. It's. You go away during New Year's.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

In New York, you know, certainly in. In Manhattan.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And you go away during St. Patrick's in Boston.

[C]

Yeah, I was. That is just shocking stuff. Yeah.

[B]

It's so kind of European medieval, too. It's like a. It's like a Bruegel painting, you know, it's just people. Oh, Joseph, Mandy, thank you so much for coming down here. I just want. I end every episode with a question from my daughter.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. And here is your question. Okay. So, Joe, Mandy, this is a question from my daughter, who was seven, which he asked this. Why does a snowflake look like a dot when in real life it looks like this? And she drew an asterisk.

[C]

Wait, can you repeat the question? Sorry.

[B]

Why does a snowflake look like a dot when in real life it looks like this?

[C]

I mean, I think it's just perspective.

[B]

Don't ask me. You're. This is for you to answer in any way.

[C]

I think it's. I think. I think they all look like up close, but from far away. It's just a. You know, that you don't see the detail as clearly. So it just appears as a dot.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I think that's the end. That's my answer.

[B]

Okay, that's noted.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[C]

I hope that's helpful for her.

[B]

Probably not.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But I think also maybe she meant a dot, like, as it's depicted in. I don't know. I'm not sure. I don't know.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

So, Joe, before we go, let. Let people plug whatever you want to do and let people know where to come see you.

[C]

I mentioned I have a special. Yeah, well, too special. But the newest one's on Hulu, Disney Plus. It should be on YouTube.

[B]

And that is called.

[C]

That's called Chill.

[B]

Chill. I'm working. People see that.

[C]

That one's on Hulu mostly.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And then. Yeah, I. I'm. I have been doing shows. I don't have anything. I have nothing going on live right now.

[B]

Embroidery.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, I. I'm happy to. To, you know, if you want to look up my hats.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Where can people go to look up your hats?

[C]

That is google.com, i think, and then hit images. So Joe Mandy hats images.

[B]

Joe mandy hats on google.com jomandy hats.

[C]

Images in the hit images.

[B]

Okay. And where can people go to see that?

[C]

That is on Google, which. And then there's a number of browsers you can use. So. Yeah.

[B]

What do you prefer? What would you suggest for these folks?

[C]

You know, I use DuckDuckGo, but that's just for my own protection.

[B]

Okay, so go to your physical protection.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so go to DuckDuckGo and type in.

[C]

And then type. Well, then you have to type download.

[B]

Download.

[C]

Download the. The. The browser.

[B]

Download the browser and put that. So you go into your browser and type Download the browser. And then that will. Then you press enter.

[C]

And press Enter. And then you. You will. You'll have to drag that icon into your Applications folder. It'll ask you if you want to change your default browser. That's up to you. And then once that opens, then type in google.com inside. Within that JoMandy Hats. And then within that, images.

[B]

That was a lot of typing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, boy. I don't know if I got that in me, partly because I'm a little week I haven't eaten. I. I'm. I was hoping to go to Pisa palace and we'll see.

[C]

It's so good.

[B]

I've heard. I've heard.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, Joe, thank you so much for coming down. Check out his latest special, Chill. And where can people see that that's on.

[C]

You know, it'll be just. If you have a DuckDuckGo browser, just type in Joe Mandy Chill.

[B]

Jillmandychill.com.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And then go to. For your hats. Go to Netflix and check out his hats. All right. Thank you so much.

[C]

Yeah, thank you.

[B]

Sense is working overtime. Is a headgum Podcast created and hosted by me, David Cross. The show is edited by Katie Skelton and engineered by Nicole Lyons with supervising producer Emma Foley. Thanks to Demi Druchin for our show Art and Mark Rivers for our theme song. For more podcasts by headgum, visit headgum.com or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and maybe we'll read it on a future episode. I'm not gonna do that. Thanks for listening.

[A]

That was a Headgum podcast.