“WICKED: FOR GOOD” Trailer Reaction

Summary

Podcast Summary: Sentimental Men – “WICKED: FOR GOOD” Trailer Reaction

Episode Details:

• Title: “WICKED: FOR GOOD” Trailer Reaction
• Hosts: Quincy Brown and Kevin Bianchi
• Release Date: June 5, 2025
• Podcast: Sentimental Men, Broadway Podcast Network

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Introduction to the Trailer Reaction

In this episode of Sentimental Men, hosts Quincy Brown and Kevin Bianchi dive deep into their reactions to the newly released trailer for “WICKED: FOR GOOD.” They dissect every frame, song snippet, and character portrayal, offering insights and sparking lively debates that any Wicked enthusiast would appreciate.

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Initial Impressions and Visual Changes

Starting at 00:10, both hosts note significant changes in the trailer’s tone and visual presentation compared to the original musical.

• Kevin Bianchi observes, “It all feels way more serious and like we're not in fantasy land anymore. Yeah, we're growing up.” [00:20]

• Quincy Brown adds, “Thought you knew Wicked. We're women now.” [00:22]

They emphasize the shift from the whimsical elements of the original to a more mature and grounded portrayal in the new film adaptation.

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Character Focus and Plot Speculations

As the trailer unfolds, Quincy and Kevin discuss the prominent characters and potential plot developments.

• Kevin: “The Pride party that seems to be happening in the Wizard's Chambers with Elphaba and Glinda. That's wonderful, right?” [01:14]

• Quincy: “We are using a sans serif font. And boy, are they women.” [01:32]

They speculate on Glinda’s role in the sequel, with Quincy suggesting, “I think Glinda is going to be in Wonderful. In the vein of like, you gotta help me convince Elphaba.” [03:07]

This leads to discussions about the absence of certain characters, such as the Wicked Witch of the East, and how it impacts their understanding of the plot progression.

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Musical Elements and Song Teasers

The hosts delve into the musical aspects teased in the trailer, highlighting new songs and familiar melodies.

• Quincy: “Then we hear that little snippet of presumably Cynthia's new song, which starts off with her given a tone that sounds like she's about to do the war cry. And then goes into some Dune-esque melody.” [05:44]

• Kevin: “I have so, so many questions. I don't even have thoughts about the trailer. I just have in reaction. I have questions.” [04:27]

They express excitement over the introduction of new musical numbers and how these might integrate with the established score, referencing iconic songs like “Defying Gravity.”

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Visual Effects and Artistic Direction

Quincy and Kevin praise the trailer’s visual effects, noting how they enhance character development and storytelling.

• Kevin: “Elphaba's outfit. So fierce.” [11:00]

• Quincy: “Things are levitating, things are floating, flying, soaring.” [17:46]

They discuss the transformation of Elphaba’s character through costume design and special effects, appreciating the blend of traditional Wicked elements with new, dynamic visuals.

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Character Relationships and Development

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the evolving relationships between main characters, particularly Elphaba and Glinda.

• Kevin: “It looks like we're getting a lot of the Wizard of Oz foursome or more of the Wizard of Oz.” [14:14]

• Quincy: “I love the thumbnail on the video of them holding hands. I almost wish that was a poster.” [19:42]

They explore the depth of the friendship and potential romantic undertones hinted at in the trailer, pondering how these dynamics will be portrayed in the sequel.

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Speculations on Plot Twists and Surprises

The hosts eagerly anticipate plot twists and narrative surprises that the trailer hints at, building excitement for the film’s release.

• Kevin: “We see the animals go rogue at the wedding. Right.” [15:50]

• Quincy: “The biggest gag for me of this trailer is Michelle Yeoh.” [20:57]

They speculate on character arcs, especially focusing on Fiyero’s transformation and the introduction of new antagonists, while also expressing curiosity about how familiar characters like Madame Morrible will fit into the new storyline.

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Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Wrapping up the discussion, Quincy and Kevin share their overall excitement and expectations for “WICKED: FOR GOOD.”

• Kevin: “I'm excited because we've heard people talking, people involved with the movie talking about how Wicked Witch of the east is a little different than it is on stage.” [20:23]

• Quincy: “I'm here to see how long it takes the two of them to hold hands.” [19:33]

They conclude by affirming their anticipation for the film, promising listeners a continuation of their in-depth analyses in future episodes.

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Notable Quotes:

• Kevin Bianchi: “It all feels way more serious and like we're not in fantasy land anymore. Yeah, we're growing up.” [00:20]

• Quincy Brown: “I think Glinda is going to be in wonderful. In the vein of like, you gotta help me convince Elphaba.” [03:07]

• Kevin Bianchi: “Elphaba's outfit. So fierce.” [11:00]

• Quincy Brown: “I'm here to see how long it takes the two of them to hold hands.” [19:33]

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Final Thoughts:

Sentimental Men delivers a passionate and detailed reaction to the “WICKED: FOR GOOD” trailer, blending insightful analysis with enthusiastic speculation. Quincy and Kevin’s chemistry and deep understanding of Wicked make this episode a must-listen for fans eager to explore what lies ahead in the beloved universe.

Transcript

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Hi, y' all.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

This is Kristin Chenoweth. Hi, I'm Gloria Stefan. This is Sara Bareilles. Hi, I'm Patti LuPone.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

This is Lin Manuel Miranda. You're listening to the Broadway Podcast Network.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I've heard it said that people come into our lives. The epic conclusion. The fonts are different in this trailer.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I clocked it. I clocked it.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

It all feels way more serious and like we're not in fantasy land anymore. Yeah, we're growing up.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Thought you knew Wicked. We're women now.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

This is a movie.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

This is a movie not about schoolgirls anymore. We are grown women. We are using a sans serif font.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

And boy, are they women. That first shot of Ariana Grande in her white gown and seemingly her castle.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Her castle. I'm sorry, Quincy, this trailer. Okay, when the trailer came out for the first part, it was, like, easy. Not easy, but, like, you could be like, oh, that's from. What is this feeling? That's from popular. That's from this. That's from that. This. I was like, what the hell is any of this?

[Kristin Chenoweth]

It's a little bit like, what the fuck is going on?

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes. I was like, I don't recognize a single.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

The, like, Pride party that seems to be happening in the Wizard's Chambers with Elphaba and Glinda.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I'm in.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

That's wonderful, right?

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

It's gotta be.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

But now Glinda's in Wonderful.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes. Well, because doesn't that. We were just trying to figure this out. I always. The absence of Wicked Witch of the east on the cast recording means that I get the order of Act 2 plot wrong in my head all the time because I never remember where. Where to place Wicked Witch of the East. But doesn't. Doesn't Wonderful come out of thank goodness today? Thank goodness for today.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Then it gets really quiet. I knew you'd be back. When does Wicked Witch of the east.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

After Wonderful, or is it the opposite? Do we have a Wicked podcast?

[Kristin Chenoweth]

This is what you get when you don't put it on the Broadway cast recording.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I know. Look at how confusing this is for us.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

No, I think it's. Thank goodness. Wicked Witch of the east into the ballroom. Cross into Wonderful. Yes, that's what it is.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Because there's a ball that's being staged announcing Linda is engaged to Fiyero.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Oh, we gotta go see Wicked on stage again.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I know we do. The girls are getting pissy with us in the DMs.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Wicked is an expensive ticket. The lottery is tough. They're not in the Mood to be comping people in right now. But we're trying. I do enter the lottery. Whenever I realize I have a free Saturday coming up, I enter the lottery same and hope that it happens.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I do. I do enter it.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

And I'm really sad to probably be missing Derek, Klena.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

All of that is to say that yes, I do think. I think Glinda is going to be in wonderful. In the vein of like, you gotta help me convince Elphaba.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Interesting.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

To come be like you are like, come tell her how. How much fun you're having.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Yeah. Yep, yep, yep.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

We're gonna put you guys in the It's a Small World ride.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Well, okay. Is that what that was? That scene where they're riding on the.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I don't know, but I'm gonna cry.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Because whatever it is, what is the context of this? There's so much that I can't place.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Also.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Where the are Bacanessa.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Well, okay. But we did think this last time too. When the first trailers came out, we were like, is anyone else in this movie or is it just the two of them?

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Yeah, but second movie. You'd think because everyone else gets so much more of a plot line.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yeah.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Maybe there'll be another trailer that's different.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yeah. Because they do have their little character portraits. Those like moving portraits that came out.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Nessa's hair. Like her mother.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Like her mother. And like Ms. Cottle.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

It was nice. So we went to the like re screening of movie one into trailer for movie two. It was nice because I felt like it grounded us back and then it helped us notice little Easter eggs in the second trailer.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Like the note that Glinda gives Elphaba before she goes to Oz, saying, I hope you get what your heart desires.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Your heart desires. I know.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Makes a reappearance in the second movie.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I have so, so many questions. I don't even have thoughts about the trailer. I just have in reaction. I have questions.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Uhhuh. Okay.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I do have the trailer queued here on my personal device.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Should we just go through.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I'm just going to go through it and we'll see where we get. So it opens with cracks in the window. Just like, enjoy your air.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I so enjoy air. And that's how Glinda clocks that.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

She's out there.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

And what I do love about Glinda seeing the cracks and then walking out and saying, elphabethrop, I know you're here. Just come out. Is there's like a familiarity and a comfort in the way she says it. That, to me, indicates that, like, they're not so distant in this era. They are still comfortable with each other and maybe, who knows? Seeing each other in secret.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yeah. And it's giving. Like, I can always sense that you're around, like. Yeah.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Because I feel like in the stage show, when they are reunited in act two, it's kind of like a moment of like, oh, my God, I thought you were dead.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

But seemingly not in the movie.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Not so much.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Yeah.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Then we hear that little snippet of presumably Cynthia's new song, which starts off.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

With her given a tone that sounds like she's about to do the war cry. And then goes into some Dune esque melody.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Which I am very. I'm just picturing her walking through a desert singing her new song. That's probably not what happens.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

But it does take me. Right.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

To do desert. Do you think that's her new song or do you think that's just, like, underscoring that they have throughout?

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Well, no, I think that's her new song.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

That's an interesting direction.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I think it's going to at least be. Because it's reminiscent of the Grimmery scoring from the end of Part one. So it would seem as though that is like, the sound of her magic. And this sounded like it was Cynthia singing.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Definitely.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Whereas in Part one, it's like background vocalists.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

We did get a lot of singing in this trailer.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes. I was not expecting no good deed.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

With all that echo and reverb.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes. And then straight into for good. I feel spoiled.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I know.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I was re. There was a part of me that I was like, are they gonna gatekeep the two of them singing that until November?

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I would have if I would've.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes, Same.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

But clearly they know better.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I think they sound so beautiful.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

She sounds really great.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

And I love their little different harmony.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Right?

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes. It's change for the better.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Yep.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

If I've been changed for the better.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Yeah.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes. They said, we're gonna send you out. Reminded that we are vocalists.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Okay. Let's keep going through.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Okay. Okay. Okay. Alpha Throp, Come on out. I know you're out here. And then Elphaba does come out.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

No more popping up in the wardrobe.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

No rip. But this is the same effect.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I would say Elphaba's house, her little.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Forest house, which does align with the book that she's, like, hiding out in the forest. But I was like, oh, we're spending time in the.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

In the forest, like, casting spells. Things are floating around her.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Which I had the thought tonight as we were watching the movie again. God, we are so back. It was so nice to watch that movie on a big screen. I did have the thought tonight when she was walking through the forest singing I'm not that girl. I was like, her and Jonathan Bailey are going to make this forest light up.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Notice we got no hetero love story in this trailer.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

No, they know who they're selling to.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

It, like, almost comes across as a lesbian love story movie.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

And is it not? Okay, so Alphabet in her house, like.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

In the trees, straddling her table in a power position.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

She's living off the land. She is the land.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Not a door in sight, just open.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

To nature and, like, animals seemingly helping her because they know she's a real one. Where is she sleeping in that tree? Maybe she takes the cape that Glinda puts around her and she makes it a hammock and she sleeps in that and thinks about Glinda as she's drifting off to sleep.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Then we have Glinda putting on the crown, seemingly before she goes to do.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

No one mourns the wicked or something, right? Because she's in that dress.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Yeah, it's got to be before. No one mourns the wicked. She's in the dress. I'm looking to see if I can see, like, her eyes. Her eyes are red and puffy in the still.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

She been crying. Madame Marable making the Tornado.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

The outfit, baby, is so fabulous.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

It's so off to kill Nessaro with the hair down too. It's with flair and charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent. Michelle Yeoh is delivering this performance as only she could.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Oh, and you see the twister coming down in the next shot.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Yeah. No, that's going to be an iconic. It's kind of giving. Finding Neverland Glitter Tornado. Jonathan Bailey in that stupid ass in his goofy hat.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yeah.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Or Soldier of the Guard.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

So goofy. But boy, do I love him.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

That watching the first movie again tonight, I was like, wow.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Seeing dancing through life on a big screen was worth the other 2 hours and 35 minutes. But, yes, he does look goofy. But then him pointing guns at Elphaba and stuff. Scary.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I wonder if there's going to be a scene in the movie where he's, like, on the job and they're running through the forest looking for the witch and then he spots her in a tree and, like, doesn't say anything to anyone and then keeps it pushing.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Gotta.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

That's what that's giving to me.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

This shot of Elphaba writing our wizard lies. We had read this description. And I was picturing like in the wizard of Oz where she flies and the smoke is the message.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Me too.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Writing it in the negative space of a cloud.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Artistic vision unreal.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

With the light shining through the word lies. It's so stupid. Good.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Uh huh.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I'm. I love it.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Elphaba's outfit. So fierce.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

She looks so like. I love that. It keeps that kind of like twistiness of the Act 2 dress on Broadway, how that kind of feels like it twists like up and around her. This keeps the feeling of that. But like the jacket with the shoulders and the big lapel is so hot. She looks so good.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

It seems like Glinda goes back to the scene of the crime being where they sang Defying Gravity. In this next portion of the trailer.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

When she's in the pink dress holding the grimory. Well, this is the very first still that we got.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Yep.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Remember?

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Uh huh. Isn't. Doesn't that look like where they did Defying Gravity?

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

It does. Which. Okay, so something that clicked for me today. Every time I watch the movie. In the beginning, when she. The very first voiceover of her, she sounds like she's coming through like a speaker.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Uhhuh.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

And I realized today that she's probably coming through the same speakers that Madame Morrible comes through.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Yeah.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

So maybe she goes back to the Wizard's palace to use the public address system. Maybe that's what brings her back to the tower.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

And then we get this shot of Elphaba and Glinda in the meadow with Glinda leaning on Elphaba's shoulder.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

There was an audible gasp.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

What if this doesn't make it into either movie? What if this is just for the trailer?

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I lowkey hope that it doesn't come back.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Otherwise we're getting a total flashback sequence. Right.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I would be curious to see how they would fit a whole flashback like this into. Into Part two.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

It would be wild if it was just for the trailers though.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I kind of love, though, the mysteriousness for us as the audience, like not knowing where this very beautiful, like where in the story this very beautiful moment happened. It's like just for them.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Maybe it'll be a flashback scene for one of them where they're like having a heart to heart about their hopes and dreams. Where like Glinda indicates that she's aware that everything is a sham.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I also love that scene that got cut where she's like, I would have come, like I would have helped, you know, if. If you needed my help, I would have been there for you or whatever. And I wonder if, like, this scene could come back in, like, a similar sense to that scene of just, like, maybe in this scene they, like, make a promise to each other about, like, what we'll do if we ever need to let the other one know we're safe or something.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Like, mm, maybe it happens right before they fake her death. And that's how.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Maybe this is what they look like when they sing for good.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

And then we have this swing ride, which I'm like, what is happening here?

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

What is happening here is they're setting us up for the ride at Universal. And I can't wait for it.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

It seems like we are getting a lot of the wizard of Oz foursome or more of the wizard of Oz. Like, we see the wizard of Oz scene essentially of the foursome going up to the Wizard.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

That little lion, so cute.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Covering his eyes with his tail.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

You want me to go? No.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Still no Dorothy face.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I know.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

And then what's interesting is they give away the plot point that Fiyarro ultimately turns on the wizard and goes with Elphaba.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I don't think that if I didn't know the plot of Wicked, I don't know that I would get that he goes with Elphaba necessarily. But it does present that he goes rogue against the wizard, for sure.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

You see him point the gun at Elphaba, and then the next scene is him telling Elphaba, I have changed.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yeah. Because she's like, I thought maybe you had changed. And then he says, yeah, I have. So I think, to me, a newbie. I'm like, oh, fuck. Like, he made her sing that whole song about not being that girl.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

And.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

And now he's changed. I think we're supposed to think he's changed. Not for good. From this trailer, after you see him.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Point the gun at the wizard, who's the bad guy?

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I don't think they're giving the romantic plot away in this trailer. I think maybe they're giving some of his political plot. But we don't see any. As long as you're mine.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

We see the animals go rogue.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes. At the wedding.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

At the wedding. Right.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Slay.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Do you think that's Elphaba? Do you think Elphaba, like, flies by and sees him getting married and is like.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

And she's like, animals. Yeah.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I love the Glinda bubble.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes. Glinda wand again in the no one mourns the Wicked dress.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Yeah. I think we see a lot of, like, precursor.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

So we're gonna really see, like, the moment before yeah.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Which, thank God, that if we're gonna explore something, I want to see that.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

You know, and it'll give the girlies on Broadway something to think about when they're up in the rafters at the top of the show. They can kind of like live through it in their head.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

No, I think that's like a really cool thing to explore further in the movie.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Agreed.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

And then I love the. You're the only friend I've ever had. And then it cuts to Ariana, busted as hell, sobbing. And then she pauses to give a funny one liner and then goes back to being busted.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I feel like we're gonna get a lot of, like, lines we know maybe in different scenes in Part two. So I'm excited to see the context of a lot of these sound bites that are so familiar to us.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I'm really curious how the cat fight scene is going to be executed. And is it going to be as big of a moment as it is on stage, or is it just going to kind of be a conversation that happens?

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I think it's going to be a big moment. And here's why. Because he spen spent a lot of time in. What is this feeling showing us the two of them learning fencing for them to not fence in Part two. Also, I want to say Cynthia is flying a lot in this movie. Things are levitating, Things are floating, flying, soaring.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Even the last shot where she's like, weaving through the forest. Action star.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes. These are superhero movies.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I think we get a shot of no Good Deed right at the end at like 2:27 where she's blowing up the walkway. It looks like she's also belting in that moment.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Oh, this. Yes.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

God. What if she's seen no Good Deed Flanked by her monkeys.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

That's what I'm saying.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Causing destruction.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I just think that we're so lucky. I also, like, there's like, shots of her kind of like flying, like, standing on the broom too, which I think is so cool.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Surfing, I love.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yeah. The vocabulary of movement that we're using.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I really cannot get over the Pride party in the Wizard's Chambers. The trailer kind of ends with that. Again, she's in the Rainbow Room and she grabs her hat and she grabs her broom and it's like, what is happening? Why are these colors happening?

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

It's Pride Month, baby.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Literally.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I. It's funny because it's like. I get it like rainbow, like, somewhere over the rainbow. But these are very discotheque.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

It looks like a gay bar in Hell's Kitchen.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

And I am excited for the drag queen who's first to recreate this. I'm dead at the idea of the wizard and Glinda being like, okay, we gotta get her back. What can we do?

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Rainbow Disney.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I know. Gay bar.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

And then we have her iconic. I'm off to see the wizard. And then her flying off into the sunset into the camera. Just like how Movie one ends.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes. Do you think that's going to be how Movie two opens with her flying like that?

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I actually don't because we gotta jump forward so much time. Like, they've grown up, you know, so. No.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Oh, yeah. And I think it was. The Vanity Fair article says definitively that this takes place several years.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I love the thumbnail on the video of them holding hands. I almost wish that was a poster.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I know the two of them, they be holding hands. That whole first movie, they held hands the whole time. So how satisfying is it gonna be when they finally hold hands in Part two?

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Yeah.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

That's the love story. Who's Fiyero? I don't know. I'm here to see how long it takes the two of them to hold hands.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

What I love about this is there is still so much of Act 2 to be seen and discovered.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yes. I can't wait to see some Nessa Rose.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I can't believe there's no Bach or Nessa in this trailer. I know.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I am excited because we've heard people talking, people involved with the movie talking about how Wicked Witch of the east is a little different than it is on stage. And so I'm excited to see what that is, what that means.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I also suspect Bach is going to have a major glow up in this second movie.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I do feel like there's a way to tie that into then. Like the Tin man of it all.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I also wonder how much of Bacchus Tin man we're gonna get. Like on the other side of the fence with Dorothy, Same with Fiyero. Do you think we're gonna get that at all?

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I would say at least some. Yeah.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Biggest gag for me of this trailer is Michelle. Yeoh.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I mean, she never disappoints.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

In her.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Fabulous gown in her squishy ass sleeves. She's there to have a good time.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Yeah.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I wonder if Peter Dinklage is in Part two.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

I think he. I think Peter Dinklage breaks up the Pride party. Remember, rainbow lights will come off. Pack it up. June's over.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Literally. July 1st at midnight 01. Sorry to interrupt the discotheque, but there's a goat on the lamp.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

This is really exciting. We're back in it.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

It's time. Tis the season.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Buckle up. Here we go.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

I'll see you in December. I gotta watch this trailer a couple more times.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Yeah, this is like, I've had one full watch of it. I'm sure there will be many thoughts to come.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kristin Chenoweth]

Slay. Bye, guys.

[Lin Manuel Miranda]

Bye.

[Jeffrey Scott Parsons]

Hey, everybody, this is Jeffrey Scott Parsons. I have just realized that I don't like the sound of my own voice, which is hilarious because I've started a podcast. Here's the deal. When we are younger, let's say 8 to 10 years old, we find filters through which we relate and understand the world. They're usually artistic in nature. Sometimes we find books, music. A lot of people find movies. For me, I found musical theater. Musical theater was my little Instagram filter through which I began to relate to the world. And that meant that the reason I knew about FDR and the New Deal in school was because of Annie. And the reason I could name all 12 tribes of Israel at church was because of Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. And if I'm being totally honest, a few years later, as I got older, the way that I was able to process the death of my close family members was by watching Ragtime. That's why I wanted to create a podcast, was to have conversations about musical theater that felt more profound than the razzmatazz that we usually use to get people to buy tickets. Because, let's be honest, I don't care if you think that musical theater is cool. Cool is overrated. I live in Los Angeles, so I know that cool is very overrated. But I do know that musical theater is important, and those are the conversations that I want to be having on this podcast. Here's how it's going to work. Every week, we're going to pick a show, and for that show, I'm going to have a guest and we're going to have a conversation about that show, about that musical. So what are the musicals we're going to cover? These musicals can be hits. Maybe they're not. There's no shortage of musicals, let's say, okay, the first musical to win the Tony Award for best musical was in 1949, Kiss Me Kate. Right. So now we're in 2019. So if we just did the best musical winners, and that's not even including the musicals that didn't win best musical, like Beauty and the Beast or West side Story or Wicked or what else? Funny Girl, Gypsy, I think what will be really fun is that every guest is going to bring something different and everybody has different tastes in terms of what they like the shows to be. Some of these shows will be some of my favorite shows. Some of them will be favorites of the guests. Some of them might be your favorites, and that might mean that I were covering a musical that I don't really care for. I'm looking at you, Mamma Mia. But it's one of the longest running shows in Broadway history, so who am I to say that people aren't connecting to it? So we'll look at it and we'll at least come up with a hypothesis as to why people connect to the show and why it's bringing them joy. So I want to hear from you. If you have an idea for a show that you would want us to cover, just email [e-mail] or you can always contact us on Twitter. Sign at A musical podcast. I'm excited to hear your thoughts. Tell me what show you want us to cover and then you have to give me a good reason. It can't just be. Well, maybe it can just be. I did the show in my community theater and I want to hear what you guys have to say about it. If that's it, just be honest. I want to hear your reasonings. Why? Be sure to, like, comment. Subscribe to the podcast whenever you can and share it with your friends. Because at the end of the day, you're another day older. No, at the end of the day, I want this to be a community where people can come and celebrate this art form in a way that maybe doesn't get explored as much. So please call me Jeff and bring along your show albums, because we're about to get turned up. No, that's terrible. So please call me Jeff and get ready because a musical theater podcast is starting now.