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Jesse and Misha Burnett talk about The Rare Coin Score by Richard Stark AND Money For Nothing by Donald E. Westlake Talked about on today’s show: 1968 and 2003, 40 years apart, Trent Reynolds, the last of the nephew novels, a mode, somebody’s nephew, The Fugitive Pigeon, a character caught up in someone else’s problem, The Spy In The Ointment, Up Your Banners, the Dortmunders, driving a Toyota Avalon, a driver’s license with no picture on it, Claire is the same Claire, good female characters, quite good, that’s gotta be it, she’s saying similar things, that’s fine, kill the guy in the garage, don’t tell me anything, two guys, roaming over the country, a threesome going, fucking up punks on the boardwalk, making the fight last longer, a call from Handy McKay, there’s something wrong, all the books are great except for The Hunter, a few of the phrases, The Philosophy Of Parker, the vocabulary of what makes someone a *good* person, “self-contained”, Lempkie, the eunuch, Billie, wearing a gun to the meeting, lusting after a girl who obviously doesn’t want him, French is a mirror of Parker, respects until he has to kill him, nothing personal, what makes French a less good version of Parker, getting stupid, getting too hungry, into his stake, heist the heisters, the ultimate no-no, knowing he was going to kill them at the end of the job, we’ll deal with that later, something awesome about the creation of Parker, no first name, part 1 chapter 2, looked like a machine not yet turned on, thinking about nothing, lay waiting in the dark, self-possessed, very remote and cool, Mr. Lynch?, a fateful exchange, I would have fucked you and fucked off, she convinces him, they fuck anyways and he doesn’t fuck off, if the Parker series is a series where the character develops, a white sandy bitch named Belle, New Orleans, always good openings, Biloxi, mentioned again?, the first of that 4 series, a woman tied up on the bed, untie me I need to pee, plans to meet with Claire in 3 months, they’re compatible, Parker’s mentality, home team and away stuff, a deeper insight, she’s not moral she’s squeamish, she just wanted a stake, airline pilot, crashed into a mountain somewhere in Europe, there’s no insurance, an important word in the Westlake universe, as amoral as Parker, confirmed thesis, weird connection, Ayn Rand is a weird lady, The Fountainhead, the characters in it are not humans, the architect, ruin his career, mad enough to rape her, about the art of the building of the beautiful building, we only come together as sexual beings because of our mutual interest, fucking bizarre, inhuman and super-interesting, bizarre, the machine that is Parker, super-ignorant, outer space, how many moons Jupiter has, insurance, he has Claire explain something to him, casing the joint, African violets on the sill, he has to perform, he’s like an autist, he knows what people expect so he performs for them, engraved letters, MCMXLVII, what’s the number?, Diablo Tours, pretend to be honeymooners, she’s a part of the heist, why is that in the book?, Parker doesn’t know anything about things that don’t matter, she’s not a robot, she’s something else, she has to contain her annoyance, she takes out her feelings examines them and puts them away, she’s the opposite of Billy, Westlake’s so good at this, this book in relief, the opposite, trying to put out fires, just goes along, a new hero arises to solve it, the actor, he loves actors and acting, putting on accents, four fifths, pick up a gun and make some decisions, locked up in the estate with the thug outside his door, tricked into it, a manipulation scene, the gun is right there in front of him, maybe I don’t want to die, Jeremy and the wife, toodling along in life, the opposite kind of a book, cut-outs, things that happen in this book, what’s the name of the Stan, Freddy the absolute dictator afraid of a gypsy curse, play along fun, when he goes to the Barnes and Noble, George R.R. Martin, taking a little dig, what happened to publishing, Fire Island, New York, Too Much, And The Band Played On, contrastive books, as much play, Billy Levetard, Bank Shot, Kelp’s nephew Victor, the same sort of character, roly-poly, sweaty, unattractive and pathetic, Nobody’s Perfect, the mark is the finger, insurance scam, sneakin around in alleys dressed in black, the glamour and excitement of the job without doing the work, a serious pro or a poseur, take over the plot, Josh is so passive, everthing sort of happens to him, hapless, a deeper understanding of the english language, hap is luck, what happened, very happy, Josh is just going along, a paper company, playing all the cards that he has, mixes and matches, this shift thing, other characters POVs, security guard, ex-MP, in the nephew book, always with Josh, that out of control-ness, more playful, when he’s in Stark mode, becomes a cartoon, Dormunder mode, well drawn, and precise, a deadly edge, he’s dead, he could have worked with, his professionalism, why French is dead, French assumed Parker was going to bail, the drawing, he’s pal skinned, can he hold it together for one more job, Claire clarifies the situation, it doesn’t work like that, Lempke, Murder Incorporated, Levetard, it’s not William it is Billy, childlike, Parker won’t shake his hand, where the money’s going, coming out of Lempke’s half, everybody’s who’s dead gets their piece, a very strong book, changes thing up and quite works, Westlake’s interest in coins, Lawrence Block wrote tons about numismatist (and philately), a Hit Man who’s a stamp collector, the hobby of kings and the king of hobbies, connections to history, a coin convention, they’re writers, wow man, what would Parker do if he were here, such a good job with backstory, well explained, how you build a character, how you act against another character, until they died, inherited some money, fell into becoming a coin dealer, a felon, these are his friends that he’s betraying, Indianapolis, Indiana, he’s very solid about describing, when he goes to Europe he takes notes, Parker is not driving, everything about this job is amateur, everything goes well until a professional steps in and fucks things up, super-interesting, in relief, double the length, the backstory is superwell worked out, taken money a long time ago, now you’re activated, impinging upon, the plot, slight of hand, Dancing Aztecs, make up a country, so many things that he’s playing with, Fetherbender, Mr. Nimrin, anagrams of each other, a trilogy, so stupid, Chapter 13, David L. Fogware, Enchantress Of Nim, more open to him as he rose, rubbing it in, author reading, new Dortmunder book, a real Barnes and Noble, ENCHANTRESS, some even smaller letters, not quite 7pm, none of them were Mr. Nimrin, so playful, strange people, sixties flower children, cryogenically frozen for 30 years, homelessness, condemntation, people who’d lost their luggage, windbreakers and pony tails, pony tails up front, amiable about it, glad not to be in, scuttling in, slim, bespectacled, pocket protector, a certain amount of jealousy?, annoyance, so popular, he left science fiction mad, Smoke is by him, invisible man burglar story, a phenomena, getting huge, press release, certain enthusiasm, Mr. Nimrin, a fellow carrying a book, the most enthusiastic applause at all, and a windbreaker, over L.L. Bean boots, becoming modesty, two kinds of burliness, the burliness of beer, Donald E. Westlake tapping his own pot belly, what is all this in aid of?, diversion, a little old lady in a walker comes up, his contact, the assassination plot, deep in the book, it never really comes off, Prisoner Of Zenda by Anthony Hope, Graustark, Ruritania, Kamastanish, the granddaddy of all these, Double Star, Edgar Rice Burroughs, the one by Winston Churchill, most of Marvel is this, Dr. Doom, Latvia, Latveria, The Duchy of Grand Fenwick, an ammo dump, Charles, lost her mind, she hasn’t lost her mind, she knows that she’s a captive, blow it up, so funny, revenge estates, spite wall, Marathon, is there a Dortmunder character in this book, the Taxi driver, more of a type, not actually Merch’s mom, in the five boroughs, the same kind of character, the type, authors getting trapped in these 7 book series, really really popular, doin well, start something up, can’t you give us another Dortmunder?, series vs. standalone books, specificaly at Hugo award winners, used to be, even now it is still true, N.K. Jemisin, Ringworld, too popular, ten years later, they don’t get progressively better, a “mystery” writer, Mysterious Press, lifetime Edgar awards, this pressure to create series, like Agatha Christie, Poirot, Travis McGee, James Bond, more freedom, he got away with it, anything with your name on it, in the balance, you could only have series or you could only have standalones, weird philosophy of efficiency, he wont put up with anything that’s inefficient, that kind of philosophy is very helpful, professional colleagues, most people don’t read much, because he gets away with it, he makes criminals very cool, most criminals are not professionals, a hardend criminal, when people are stupid in a Stark novel, weird mindset, fun but not philosophy, 52 theory, Laverne & Shirley, ...

The SFFaudio Podcast #898 – Jesse and Scott talk about All Flesh is Grass by Clifford D. Simak Talked about on today’s show: 1965, the point in his career, without serial in magazines, what’s happening after 1958, distribution is just awful, Galaxy, Astounding/Analog, F&SF, magazine sales, hardcover 1st, Doubleday, purple covers, it’s ok, mid 60, psychedelic covers, horrible, Foss cover?, spaceship with blowout, a science fiction book, flowers and faces, rocketship = science fiction, dragon = fantasy, good cover or not, where we start, what’s the cover look like, favourite, love this book, a fan, one of his best ones, the suspicion of the main character, suspicion of the flowers, he/it/they be, is it justified?, Simak’s behind it all, trust Simak, aggressively hostile at times, talking to the politicians, personal suspicion, harsh circumstances, losing his business, can’t pay his phone bill, unsettling, am I losing my mind or not?, very Philip K. Dicky, guy standing in his garden talking to his tree, We Can Remember It For You Wholesale, a delusional homeless man, careful framing, trying to go for an effect, clunky careful framing, this is just a crazy man, all he has to do to be a secret hero of earth, a solipsistic power fantasy of a child, reinforce that, drinking himself to death, Tupper, autistic?, something wrong with him, the primary source of contact until the phones get going, until the barrier shows up, backstory, setting up the scenario, particular distress, it’s cool, so many Simaks, Dick is similar or vice versa, he really cooks with short stories, that old Del Rey paperback, to read Simak is to read science fiction, kinda true, you think of space, other alien planets, are they really other planets?, what recurrs in his books, humanity is screwing up badly, there’s a way out, a friend named Gavin, the solutions he always gives are fantastical, to the point of destruction, a science fiction trope, 2001: A Space Odyssey, the one with Gort [The Day The Earth Stood Still], we will destroy you, Simak was already on it in 1965, gotten into scraps, town asshole, a pretty brutal fight, blood, the girl runs off, periods of things like that, lash out, a surprise, dogs fight, turning on each other, snarling down on the ground, a real town, Millville, population 127, the town is disappearing, instead of Ray Bradbury nostalgia, I’m still here, world wars, humanity as a species, we are bad because we did nukes, those rockets have yet to go off, putting this collective guilt on us as individuals not to do war, follow orders, like we’re the bad ones as a collection, Bradford or Brad, humanity itself is worth saving, not a Malthusian you fuckers have to stop breeding, Ring Around The Sun, empty and beautiful, mobs, a newspaperman, hip deep in that, he’s seeing everything, the plant is closing, this is key to understanding, look at the news and process it everyday, local news, see the trends happening, the tv says there’s going to be good weather next week, the current state of humanity, WWII, throes of Vietnam, greed, corporations, extremely pessimistic about humanity, an optimism about what humanity can be, on the whole humans good, extreme ideas, the knowledge of the universe, this incredible knowledge, tap that, solve these problems in ourselves, recurring stuff, that optimism, laying down some goodness, the interaction with the flowers, he does talk to an elm tree, through the telephone, in his best novel, Galactic Pot-Healer, talk to Mr. Job, an ai that put you out of work, go to Cleveland, radio broadcasts, look in your toilet tank, doesn’t like being mentally ill, you are needed for a great project, a return to a belief into something bigger than yourself, raising the sunken cathedral, find a purpose, a novel of a romantic poem, the romantic poets, I Wandered Lonely as a Cloud by William Wordsworth, continuous as the stars that shine, along the margin of a bay, they outdid the sparkly waves, a jocund company, the blissful solitude, no alien intelligence inside these daffodils, how’s he gonna resolve this book?, what if we’re cut off from this possibility, the other species can cure humanity of its ills, they aren’t just healing us, they’re replacing the broken things in us, witch-doctor, penicillin, an alien economy, the way the romantics work, you go for a walk, the birds of the air, the grass, the trees, then you go home and you write it down, an experience of nature, a nature walk transformed into a piece of art, aliens who want to contact humanity, a solution, they need our love, they need us to appreciate them, an olive branch, the flowers say, we need living space, we have no hands, for the benefit of each of us, many earths, a common aim and purpose, that’s heavy, that’s the threat, suspicious of corporations, Monsanto says, they’re resistant to this, the terminator gene, making ip laws on nature, when Simak posits some aliens, can’t we just trust them, he is the god of the book, this god is good, malevolent aliens, if Lovecraft wrote this book, Mars is a dead world, never been any evil acts done on Mars, a kindly touch, some encouraging words, that’s a sterileness, uplifted, in a quest to enjoy symbiosis with other minds, first contact, we meet aliens and we become friends, a flower garden, cherry blossoms, blackberry blossoms, we need a closer relationship based on me eating part of you, what those bones were, they wiped themselves out, never developed properly, delivered to his plate, the money being grown by the flowers, not real money, what makes it not real?, it hasn’t been officially blessed, cynical and looking for trouble, a communist!, even they’ve got a program in Mississippi, how important money is to us, if each of those bills had a new serial number, it’s above our pay grade, be able to spend it, break the system, some flaws with the book, the dome, Under The Dome, definitely came from this, aliens again, playing a game, adolescent, he fails on his endings a lot, what it did to that small town, The Tommyknockers, The Mist, the scene in the grocery store, we gotta sacrifice one of us, I should sacrifice myself, the homeless guy rushes in, back to his father, looms over the book, the original sin, cultivated and cared about them, a repayment, an investment, a very weird book, it takes the sentiment and thought behind romantic poetry and turns it into a science fiction novel, the barrier proves this guy’s not crazy, to prove existence, pass in between, permission somehow, there’s something there, create the crisis and the proof, if this were a Philip K. Dick novel, calm down bro, running around town, an invasion like Invasion Of The Body Snatchers, the horror of mental illness, thinking people are demons, a man in crisis, good hints, what’s she gonna do, all the great people who came out of this town, self-insert, a business guy, not super-imaginative, straight laced mind, a means to fund other projects, set aside some of this money selling gadgets, write cheques, really cool, a collection The Gentle Invaders, The Midwich Cuckoos, the barrier, a whole town in put to sleep, 9 months later all the women are pregnant, still rape, a new hybrid human alien species, too gentle to make the aliens malevolent, Leigh Brackett, Fritz Leiber, Mack Reynolds, 1969, Hans Stefan Santesson, editor of Fantastic Universe, Edward D. Hoch, 60 cents, Fantasy & Science Fiction, March 1966, Judith Merrill’s review, long winded, right after Earth Abides, John Christopher, personal nomination, conformity vs. individualism, some zombies too, no hasty conclusions, solid speculative content, oxymorons, meaningful and eminently readable, our protagonist is an individuals, mobs, rumor vs. fact, there will be peace, we will be nuked, panic, she’s bringing her own stuff to it, him vs. the government, some bigshot through the dome, NPCs, quite well realized, the father of the girlfriend, knows himself, this is your money, here have a drink, self-concious of his own limitations, a history of all the people in this town who are making a big impact in the world, they’re all inspired by the flowers, no?, a walk in the woods, lovely daffodils, a spring in your step, the beauty of the nature, a Doc Labyrinth story, shoes that come to life, a living thing, zany guy’s house, latest invention, The Preserving Machine, allow beauty to survive nuclear war, transformed into a living creature, lay eggs or gestate, life persists even in the face of disaster, these plants preserve knowledge and truth in themselves and want to share it, the animals that come out are reflections of what Philip K. Dick thinks of the chamber musicians, deadly serious, plant life is the thing I’m talking about, jokes about my favourite musicians, this field of flowers is beautiful, cultivate your own garden, write a poem, maybe someone will like, a rifle and a tower, kill all the politicians who want to make war, get better soil, love it, very biblical too, these are not even a monocrop, they can be sticks or vegetables, fruit, how amazing fruit is, eat me, take me, get my seeds elsewhere, this deliciousness serves us both, our relationship to animals, chickens, beef, get upset, how can you eat that thing, a creature, ready to be harvested, what they’re there for, this planet must be sterile, only because it can feel pain, our relationship and its relationship with us, the whole animal business, a ...

The SFFaudio Podcast #897 –Jesse and Alex (Pulpcovers) talk about The Great Impersonation by E. Phillips Oppenheim Talked about on today’s show: family names, English people are weird, disappointing, what year this book came out, a prolific writer, the reader’s digest version, it’s really cool, no one else has read it, post WWI, it has to be 1920, there’s a movie in 1921, a weird and good book, the ending obviously, four different things going on, the 39 steps meets The Prisoner Of Zenda, a lot more swordfighting, talk about previous swordfights, he fell on my sword, came away with a broken arm, it skips all the fun in a certain sense, subdues Robert Urthank, smokin, alcohol, a lot of guns on birds, like it a lot, the only way it could be constructed, a new student, choose your own adventure book, if you do this turn to page 18, death, premature imprisonment in a skull mountain, the best ending, rewrite this as a Choose Your Own Adventure, do you drink the whiskey?, at some point in the narrative, the author tricks us, a possibility, really suspicious, my fake wristwatch that I don’t have, that’s a slip-up if…, the main character is called by his proper name by the narrator of the book, the twist is he’s not lying, it comes out of nowhere, a clever book, oooh!, The Sixth Sense, sitting around in rooms with a little kid, a good twist, missed the twist, the revelation which was kinda cool, massively improved, do you go on another hunt?, do you go in the black wood?, is this a little Hound Of The Baskervilles thing too, her brother who’s mentally deficient, we don’t have the butler, we’re supposed to be in on it, very cool, how can you do this to me?, I was not your buddy Leopold, does the book play fair?, misses something he should have known, I’ve been gone for so long, he also was gone for a long time, a teenager, a trick for us, in on the secret, the German guy, we will expand!, we need breathing room, use this for inspiration!, take my papers, hold them for me, two documents that are opposite, Germans are nice fellows, evil conquerors, in combination with the black wood, haunted place from the past, a body buried there, Baron Ragstein, his own demon in his backstory, his real demon?, fought a man and was exiled, mirroring, at Oxford, both at the same school, one is charged with the other’s bills at school, a nice little touch, a very good condensation of scenes in the book, other Universal Horror movies, a werewolf story, the calling in the night, a fakeout, clearing the black wood, the resolution of the valance, which is he?, the spy or the counter spy, he’s the hero, we never see him meeting with the British, the white linen, what happened in Africa, Africa changes a man, the cousin, Africa, India, all the same, the women are black and there’s lots of beasts, he took the Baron’s money, and followed the Baron’s plan, quite striking, guys gone to seed, the first of his name not to waste all his money, degenerate, regenerate, the family line always degenerates, a Lovecraftian family, in the basement eating your friend, I’m paying off the family debts, his skin looks better, standing a little straighter, like you’ve been a military uniform, a great surprise as a possibility, the author knew what he was doing the whole time, turning old novels into Choose Your Own Adventures, poor student, every poor kid, The Great Gatsby, a rich guy observed by an acquaintance/friend, the very first Hard Case Crime book, Grifter’s Game, conmen, a supersolid horrible noir awesome ending, the lobby was air conditioned, his tone apologetic, every stinking dive, palm up, he liked to receive it, a great opening, the girl is tied to the chair, making her a heroin addict, the great dissipation, you don’t want to have him for a boyfriend, great writing carries you from page to page, overly long, the lack of action, The Thirty Nine Steps is a bad book in a certain sense, written during the war, a spy book, a chase sequence, Rogue Male by Geoffrey Household, at the Eagle’s Nest, some SS guards discover him, he goes to ground on the run the whole book, it never says Adolph Hitler, a WWI book with the knowledge of WWII, awesome pace, what’s going to happen next, Hitchcock movies, this is a spy book, is it though?, you’ve got a secret mission, what’s the special mission?, elected maybe?, an English nobleman that’s secretly a German spy, spend all this money, we will back you to the hilt, the meeting with the Kaiser, a cameo, Arnold Schwarzenegger playing Kaiser Wilhelm, over muscled Kaiser, we’re going to win World War One, a fluff piece of fun, a really good twist, not as tight or compelling as Lawrence Block, pre-war English dialogue, not well remembered, The Black Arrow by Robert Louis Stevenson, his poetry for children, Treasure Island, how often have you thought about Kidnapped, Strange Case Of Dr Jekyll And Mr Hyde, it has been spoiled, it is very possible…, the way the book was written, bad writing?, the Englishman was seen in Africa and was not dead, he’s in the room with us right now!, the rumor is true?, the way the book handles this is to never give a definitive reaction from our viewpoint character, too long for what the idea does, Dr. Jekyll is Mr. Hyde, a cool idea, Two-Face, a man who is both men, it works better as a film, never being inside somebody’s head, the camera goes to their pov, or over narration, doing the original star wars with old Luke, narrating the events of the original star wars, I didn’t know at the time, now I’m a blue milk addict, you can do things with viewpoint, on a desert island, Chagos, Prisoner Of Zenda everytime, on every page level, piled up coincidence, sparky and fluffy, almost a play, drinking and meetings, a little romance, the romance storylines, falling in love with Lady Domini, she’ll find you out, she’s a very nice kid, Hungarian princess, unrolls the scroll, their both in exile in Africa, killed a guy, disgraced and can’t come home, a collision in Africa, the way I’m going to kill him, very very salty, passive aggressive way of killing somebody, fighting to the death off-screen, the flashback to that fight at the end, make the whole movie filled with lots of flashbacks, Memento (2000), tell the story backwards, nice awesome noir reveal, have meaning in his life, the only thing that matters is me, companion books, now let’s see it from the other guy’s point of view, which universe you’re in, a burning desire to live, that setup at the beginning, that contrast at the beginning, beaten down and thin, the shakes from the alcoholism, erect Prussian, definitely the German guy, turned his entire life around, that’s the mental work we have to do, if you’re not second guessing the book review already, a goodreads review, 1 star, is that guy lying to me, you used to have curly hair?, can you grow out of curly hair?, a very girl book, lack of outdoor action, The Count Of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas, a swordfighty action movie, no a brooding plotter, clockwork vengeance machine, swordfights with people, work em in there, it would make sense for either persona, on the riverbank, the most interesting character, madman, the schoolteacher, a nice period piece, rowing, the fencing team, a big smite on his face, a secret scar, why he can’t get undressed with his wife, new scars, a birthmark, arm break, not a short book for what it is doing, that big a disparity, Timeline by Michael Crichton, condensation, the movie just zips along, a few too many filler scenes, repetition, adapt this well into a film, fun movie stuff, the definite film version of this is yet to be made, Trading Places (1983), The Prince And The Pauper by Mark Twain, Double Star by Robert A. Heinlein, inherit the kingdom, they’re both barons or a baronet, a woman back home who’s mad/in love with him, injuries and deaths on both sides, the balancing act for the mirror, William Wilson by Edgar Allan Poe, for the present, a call me Ishmael situation, making a joke about the publication, this other kid, degenerate gambler, reflected badly on the narrator, a long short story, stabbed in a swordfight, split personality, a split self, which one am I, The Prestige, a very good book, an estate in it, a weird dark land, a confection, a bon bon, very delicious, greatly declined, the Star that was E. Phillips Oppenheim, lost authors, no champion, Mr. Grex Of Monte Carlo, 2 books a year for years and years, the concept binds him in certain ways, the secret he wants to reveal, knife’s edge, a certain distancing effect upon the reader, imagine this as a Hard Case Crime book, the first 16 cover proofs, what Charles Ardai was doing, he took a Sherlock Holmes story and published it as by A.C. Doyle, a screaming lady in a nightgown, contractually obligated, I wanna tell stories about the KKK, the mormons, playfulness of an author in his element, a good place to be for a reader, in contrast, some people on the internet are either biobots or dumb, a photograph of some books at the drugstore, food deserts, book deserts, you have to walk into a driver, the newsstand, the spinner rack, the gas station, stumble across things, more and more unusual, the oasis of the library, free books on the internet, you have to go find them, ...

The SFFaudio Podcast #896 – The Great Impersonation by E. Phillips Oppenheim, read by Tom Weiss. This novel was first published in 1920. This UNABRIDGED AUDIOBOOK (7 hours 56 minutes) comes to us courtesy of LibriVox.org. The next SFFaudio Podcast will feature our discussion of it! Posted by Jesse Willis

Jesse and Alex (Pulpcovers) talk about Timeline by Michael Crichton Talked about on today’s show: 1999 novel, a very chonky book, 464 pages, Congo?, this genre of Crichton, John Lange, a lot of success, Stephen King syndrome, a writing machine, weird psychological stuff, powerful books, drinking, cocaine, a stern talking to, a post-Jurassic Park book, went forward, The Andromeda Strain, a great novel and a very good movie, Eaters Of The Dead, A Knight’s Tale, electric guitar jousting, they look pretty similar, pale versions of Neo from The Matrix, remember it fondly, rock music, condensed it in many ways, 36 hours, cut out a lot, weird changes, trivia wise, the movie that broke Michael Crichton, rolling over for every Jurassic World movie, Jesse doesn’t believe in spoilers, making the French the good guys, Lady Claire, less of a complete shitbag, you’re the special one that I love, she sleeps with the abbot, apparently that works out, a woman worth abandoning your timeline for, projecting, a very Michael Crichton, the protagonist of the fictional text woven into the Lucasarts Tie Fighter game, X-Wing, collector’s manual, in my bedroom, study up, Star Wars novel, secret conspiracy with the emperor, Crichton’s brain, the Elephant, Joseph Merrick, the most cool things, too many characters, some other handsome guys, villainous guys, a Scottish guy, a good cast, the girl, looks sweaty, rock climbing, caving, a big unweildly book, really cool stuff in it, Cricthon’s outsider science fiction status, Asimov of H.G. Wells, King Solomon’s Mines, War Of The Worlds, The Terminal Experiment Man, Frankenstein, A Connecticut Yankee In King Arthur’s Court, literally starts the same, suddenly a knight charged at me with a lance, that’s not a science fiction novel, getting the facts right, mythological space, tons of fuckin research, the 100 years war, necessary for Crichton, just French and English, a few subtitles, wave away the language problem, really good excuse, suddenly communicate, Occitan, prot-southern French, standardized post-Napoleon, regional thing, more confederated, the official French dictionary, Quebec, lots and lots of castles, a lot of renactors, French speakers, woodsy Canadian, Eaters Of The Dead, armour looked pretty good, all fine, Castlegar, two houses somewhere, a real budget, the script, why movies work (popular or not), viking barbarian land, a smaller scale setting, dozens, one magnetic character, Paul Walker, fun to watch, part 10 or whatever, so American it’s shocking, Billy Connolly, the most California guy to ever live, so blank, not designed to be a movie, a treatment for a film, a bastard sword, so many things going on in it, 7 characters?, trying to do a lot, the whole universe explanation for it, this mystery, the guy in the desert, never explain, yes they don’t, the flaw that they missed, what’s wrong with the book, it’s a criticism of the new tech bros that are comin, the Elon Musks, as opposed to governments, zany experimenters, all corporate now, corporate criticism, he’s like the facebook guy, he’s like a Zuckerberg, they want to kill him, the book feels colder, the evil megacorporation, definitely a jerk, master race, not yet, in that direction, hints at some of that, we’re gonna have to kill you now, why does he do that, prevent a pr disaster, we need him to die, it gives us catharsis, the catharsis for the film, like Gomez, immediately beheaded, bubonic plague, loves history, science, medicine, combines all of these things together, Travels, astral projection, he’s not a druggie, breathing exercises, accessing inaccessible parts of experience, weird tricks, weird weird guy that’s supersmart and now dead, Arizona, France, Eruption, Vulcan, marketing at train stations and airports, all Dean Koontz titles are like this, all the same, you have to make it dumber, a Star Trek book, we have to fix it, this concept, instead of doing as a playful satire, quantum shit, it’s not novel, he’s doing that sort of work, not basing it on the golden age 50s stuff, he seems to have no interest in it, not everything that Wells wrote was science fiction, creating it independently, hit the same checkpoints, checkboxes, this mode of science fiction, infodumping, Jesse loves Ringworld, flicked into existence, the same idea, talking to an alien, big dumb object, all about sex, a sex companion, Teela Brown, Nessus gay sex?, Speaker, females are non-sentient, weird drives, very silly, the human characters, Merrick, the only intriguing character in the book, screen time, that’s what’s wrong with the book, cool ideas, well developed, stuff happening, when you go back in time, a first person one guy story, here’s my story, sidetracks himself, a double text, interspersed, thins was bullshit, we can become annoyed and like that annoyance, the found document with a frame narrative, you gotta get them out of your system, everything worked that day, not every souffle, different ingredients every time, don’t change a thing, keep experimenting, more of that, what most readers want, give it to me again just like you gave it to me before, BBC piece from the 70s or 60s, 38 women live in this council house and all begin their day by shaving, down to a formula, that little doc, how poor these authors are, ladies go to the library and borrow the books, the dustman, the library’s fault, disposable books, more different, stretch you legs, good ideas and a noble failure, all the action, none of them are essential, not core, better Crichton books out there, way better, lost city in the jungle adventure, dropping people in the middle ages, too much flashing back to the company in the desert, no fucking idea how their technology works, how any of this works, shooting in the dark, you don’t know how any of this works, that’s all cool, drop it for the movie, one place and time, too much time back in the office, stuff’s happening, escaping across the rafters, each of the modern characters, important later, she was brought in to clamber over the ruins, practice our longbow skills, a good setup, it doesn’t gel, fine but forgetable, a fun character, a terrible person, the scene with the abbott, a surprise, she’s the one that comes out, not a faker, the opposite of Crichton is L. Ron Hubbard, a writing machine, gimme a picture I’ll write to that, John W. Campbell, things that he’s gonna be writing about, the sci-fi magic wand, completely accurate, Harry Stubbs, Hal Clement, Jerry Pournelle, what if there was a world that had this gravity, Mission Of Gravity, heavy gravity planet, shaped like centipedes, how would your existence be shaped, Flatland, essay?, text, going with an idea, competent characterization, infodump is important, a 15 hour book, about to do the time travel now, quantum foamy book for the first five hours, understanding what the concepts are, the transcription errors, why the badguy can’t get home, bones are misaligned, his arteries don’t line up, go to see the cat, body horror, nose tissue, a third eye, much better handled, the reveal, touched on twice, mishandled, maybe there’s a third guy from the past, no hint, hey pal, a real plot point, the facial scar, a transcription error, a very cool idea, you could do the story without it, makes the book bigger, more interesting, we’re destroying these people, very calm about everything, the tech guy, he’s Crichton, helping us along, how and why things are happening, will the glue hold, what about these water cracks, a pistol?, so the equipment can be destroyed, feels like a puzzle, mashing pieces together to make it fit, it has transcription errors, the book is flawed, it has a schism, the bad guy, Dekker made French, their version of the story, a year earlier, repair the damage, a lot of speeches given, trying hard to do a good book, it just didn’t really land, cool ideas in it, Sphere as an abridged audiobook, reset the timeline so none of the book happens, when did it start going wrong?, intermixed, they’re Epstein people, asshole fuckheads full of arrogance, the experience is bad, raw and talented, super into literature, all classical, ancient scientists, enlightenment era scientists, the list, Jurassic Park, is it good? a great movie, a very good book, the sequel, as a book is really good, 1990, a big gap, 1966, how early he started, late 80s early 90s kind of guy, 1976, The Great Train Robbery, his 1970 novel Drug Of Choice aka Overkill, fake vacations, real vacations, scuba diving, but why?, he likes scuba diving, almost died scuba diving one time, an incredible urge to have sex, he would write it, your sister might read the book, an interesting phenomenon, it’s about interesting phenomenon, flaky new age guy, best explain them, salacious details, living with a girl on the beach, fourth breakup, reset, really strange experience where the cactus was talking to me, evil corporation, giving them diets, fat reduction, Ozempic, helps you stop smoking too, the addiction of eating, the pleasure response of food, the circumstances you’re in are wonderful, everything is wonderful, under a hypnotic state under the drug, really bad food, you fall down, you got that in a tennis match, anything you&#...

Jesse and Misha Burnett talk about The Handle by Richard Stark Talked about on today’s show: book number 8 in the series, he has fun with the titles, The Green Eagle Score, a bunch of scores in a row, what the word “the handle” meant, Run Lethal, feels a little bit like The Mourner, they’re all the same, they’re different, outside the bounds of the U.S., the setup is different, calling back to Karns from The Outfit, the child molester, moving parts, Nazi war criminal, the actual war crimes, dropped threads on purpose, what comes of Yancy?, he’s a fun character, never see him again, the way real life works, Grofield shot five times in Mexico City hotel, 3 Grofield books, dropped threads, a 1 day delay, not on the ball, time to go over this book again, Parker’s problem with him is he doesn’t have a tan, he raped an 11 year old girl, Salsa is a fun character, the gun dealer, they’re always more of the same, the morality is not social morality, efficiency morality, Parker is essentially, everyone else is suffering from main character syndrome, Parker is the stranger, Poul Anderson?, a Bezerker story, Fred Saberhagen, The Adventure Of The Metal Murderer, is Sherlock Holmes, Sherlock Holmes Through Time And Space, he’s got a little bit of a personality, Data from Star Trek, he’s not a normal human being, Springfield, Missouri, a 4 hour drive, one of the Dortmunder novels, Bad News, the differences between Parker and Dortmunder, hyperfocus thing, really Westlake, Crystal is trying to make a pass at him, doing the job, parallel evolution, Kelp, they fulfill the same function, annoying but useful, ground the other, when the principals are lost in thought, just as autistic, the insight, Westlake with a new assignment, rewrote the ending, needs to be a series, the worst Parker book, clunkers near the end, the character is not there yet, revenge is absent from every subsequent book, what we love about Parker, he is so efficient, makes Westlake’s character work, another dropped thread, far more intelligent, bimballina, standard good writing, she wants to take pictures of Salsa unclad, what do I care?, about to have sex with Crystal, telephone girl, great book, so good, The Green Eagle Score, sure why not?, in the etext, Michael Kramer, dropbox, Stephen R. Thorne, if this cassette stops working, almost robotic, they’re fancy, so cool, Westlake can’t help himself, the red Thunderbird, broken taillight, the heat was bright, heavy, oppressive, all the comforts of home, Gulf freeway, top 40, no wait for warmup, so full of gimmicks, tinted glass, joyknob, a stuffed toy tiger, Houston, each thinking his own thoughts, a seedy bar, Tropical Palm Lounge, little tables, shiny black formica tops, amber tinted mirrors, DW in large letters, so in the book, he’s so funny, it is funny, that thing in Dancing Aztecs, always drives Fury III, a car called Kill, this is the series, Stark fans, really hardboiled, popular with hardened criminals in prison, he has to have fun, we’re gonna look at the guns, the comic relief for the Hamlet of Stark, any character in a Westlake story could be the main character, Grofield opened the door to Parker’s knock, a man to be our Charon, he has no knowledge of popular culture, but Westlake is Grofield, he loves all the literary references that he’s throwing down, a meeting with Gold Medal, two more this year?, setting up the assignment to get it done, it is absolutely a recipe, styles of chunks, new characters, Handy McKay, that idea, we set up these pins, bringing in the cops, the FBI, the scene with Parker there, assessing their situation, disarms the other guy, a butcher’s knife, he knows about coffee, he’s never read a paperback, recreation, on top of a hot sandy bitch named Michelle, he’s not a connoisseur of anything except getting the job done, gets Grofield involved, the money doesn’t matter, writing for money, that’s his living, he loves the exercise of writing great stories, he made a break with science fiction because it didn’t pay, The Curious Facts Preceding My Execution, The Spy In The Elevator, Anarchaos, he loves science fiction, Lawrence Block, Fredric Brown, didn’t go down that path,wrote good science fiction and fun fantasy, paperbacks and hardcovers, crime was what he could sell after the sex market, a writer who enjoys writing and not just having written, one of the best books about writing, out of print, Paul Westlake, running the website, it wasn’t just him in the estate, they all have to agree or have semi-interest, movies, a new Parker movie, in the trailer for the latest Parker movie it mentions this book, a casino off of the coast of Texas, Grofield is black, Parker’s not right, nobody is Parker, Brent Spiner to play Parker, Jason Stathem came closest, none of them are Parker, [The Outfit], Prime Cut (1972), Lee Marvin, a discussion with someone on the internet, always a mistake, on twitter, nobody’s gonna read, you can just do ai images, you can just see it, in an audio visual medium, epic poetry was the main mode for most of human history, go into the cave, paint an animal or two, mostly computer games that are the main media now, books were huge, plays were pretty big for a while, appreciate the medium what it can do, The Grifters, what Jim Thompson was laying down, fuckn hardboiled, first person narration, small town sheriff, of course I had to destroy him, absolute psychopath, two face, coming from a real abusive place, one about a girl, childhood sexual abuse, she’s got this baggage, a family of abusive psychopaths, Westlakes gets it, translates that to film, The Stepfather (1987), a game and tv show, reading the Star Wars novelization, The Predator (1987) novelization, Alan Dean Foster, music, back to Grofield, just as dangerously messed up as Parker is, how he visualizes things, in terms of a movie, a different symptomology, a narcissist sociopath, a show with Mr. Pulpcovers (Alex), Two Much, 3 movies, a Tamil version, how evil the main character is, we love him, justifying the murders he’s doing, lappin it up, part of Westlake’s genius, Kelp for example, the Kelp/Grofield connection, likeable, steal some money from an institution, puts the salt in the beer, oh my god i’m devastated, too much trauma, the same kind of stuff, there’s no murders, funny situations, hardboiled murderers, as a suggestion, Enough, one of them is a great movie, A Slight Case Of Murder, so good, William H. Macy playing the movie reviewer, James Cromwell, first person narration to the camera, I’m safe, breaking the fourth wall stuff, every chapter is a different detective story trope, A Travesty, Ordo [“Orrie”], a sailor, he finds out about it, a spread of her in Playboy, her biography mentions her marriage to him, the French get him, and Poe and Lovecraft, the amateur detective, the red herring, the book was published 60 years ago, framed for a murder that he actually did, another really good one, we should talk about the actual book we were supposed to read, Cockaigne, an ongoing theme, his obsession with insurance, institutions are always and all corrupt, the more corrupt it is, an “outfit”, the “organization”, even that is full of incompetents, her dysfunction, a little bit neurotic, babbling, has to take her hand, make her shut up, while Yancy went off to get the glasses, proud of himself, a hand drawn map, shaped somewhat like a rubber life-raft, medieval trouble, rows of waves, a complex arrow and letter N, sometimes it ran for the sake of running, like a man tromping an automobile accelerator, a souvenir, the pride still in his voice, where’s the frame, Westlake can’t help himself, our man kind of got enthusiastic, what’s the scale of this map, the other map, graph paper, this one simple bear and neat, there’s so much in it, only 4 hours long, it feels complete and it is complete, there’s no island in the Gulf there, a little bit like the Most Dangerous Game, count Zaroff, General Zaroff, after Red and White Russian war in 1919, Sanger, blood-dripper, hunters, big game hunters, it’s all about that fun setup, the FBI wants him for some reason, he runs the island, same reason that Karns wants him, goodie points, InterPol, Westlake’s pretty cynical, on a Navy ship, Congress was annoyed, this island belonged to, the Sea-Bees, a very cynical eye, just laughs at it, like that of General Zaroff’s island, they’re invading it, a mini-bay of pigs, a guaranteed heist, the money on hand, a sobriquet, Charles Willis, dates, professional heister at it for 20 years, they don’t have his face, he had all that work done, to get away from the Outfit, meta matters, what Westlake has to do to make the series go on, loose threads, Parker and Grofield, slowly bleeding to death, follow the Mexicans, Parker shows the gun, one sentence, he sees the handle of the suitcase, in casinos the amount of money that’s on hand, The Jugger, so interested in writing the book, Firebreak, Breakout, one leads on to the next, curved plastic black alien, the suitcase, Ronin (1998), a CIA guy, a McGuffin, the same suitcase, Pulp Fiction (1994), new flooring in his apartment, take his wife to Florida, this robot that does 2 or 3 jobs a year, it’s...

Jesse and Alex (Pulpcovers) talk about Congo by Michael Crichton Talked about on today’s show: 1980, watch the movie?, skimmed through it, segments, the etext, a giant works cited, the audiobook from 1980, people who mess with books, 4 versions of Congo, an abridged version, commercial cassettes, the book for the blind version, stuff at the beginning, we know you’re blind, a regular person, we’re gonna give you everything, the chapter names, the appendices, Mr Michael Crichton is a bit tricky, a faker, a hoaxer, Eaters Of The Dead, checking my footnotes, I made it up, hoax yourself, the Egypt one, Sheba, a lost world sort of book, the John Lange books, The Venom Business, a snake catcher, Scientific American articles, hanging out with his old friends, what’s bad about it, everybody in the book is venomous, they’re toxic, they’ll poison you, more of a bookstore and docks guy, toxic rich people, familial stuff, the people they knew, an extraordinary person, well researched, world traveller, thoughtful, good writer, the way this book was made, it was gonna be a movie, a movie maker, book writer, he created ER and wrote the pilot episode, 15 seasons, a book we should do, The Great Train Robbery, great movie, starred Sean Connery and Donald Sutherland, fun and funny movie, a modern version of King Solomon’s Mines, the great white hunter role, this book is a book, when it came time to make the movie, Jurassic Park blew everybody’s brains out, we have the right!, when it came out, I don’t hate it, it is not a good movie, a flick, forgettable, the fake gorillas, fairly well done, CGI today, couldn’t do hair yet, Bruce Campbell, a small role, Ernie Hudson brings a charm, the highlight of the movie, his accent almost makes it better, keeps it mostly, I’m your great white hunter, movie is fairly accurate to the book, the differences, Amy stay with the gorillas at the end of the movie, less than six foot tall woman, gender flipped, Michael Crichton’s the woman, engaged, have the diamond thrown away, so boring in the is movie, just there to be eaten, an assistant, Tim Curry, nothing like him is in the book, a weird accent, the same accent in Red Alert III, the premiere of alternate steampunk Russia, trying to be a comedy and also be Jurassic Park, play it for humour, married to Kathleen Kennedy, a power couple, if it is based on the book, he’s great, Looker (1981), MK Ultra, people lose time, Zoolander (2001), real stuff, his pattern, his big breakout novel as him was Andromeda Strain, his version of The War Of The Worlds, very clinically vs. a personal narrative, Frankenstein, The Terminal Man, Elon Musk’s brain chip, tin foil cap, the creation of a new being, aiming in that direction, this book is King Solomon’s Mines, references H. Rider Haggard, an after action report, psuedorealism, it’s a solid, Eaters Of The Dead, he leans into the tech, the most dated part of the story, enough metal in the earth, up the megabytes a bit, he tags it in 1979, slightly in the future and perfect cloning technology and rotary phones, a good read, pitch an idea, in 1991, please make this into a movie for us, 20th Century fox, asked James Cameron to do it, there are scenes in this book, badly paralleled in the film, basically the plot of Aliens (1986), a rescue mission, the smart gun scene, the greys are attacking, maybe deleted from the main Aliens movie, another way to get in, they’re smart, as smart as a monkey, Conan and Thak go on an adventure, the grey gorillas as a Conan reference, very smart and psychotic, excited about talking monkeys, popular science, history and archaeology and old books, world travel, high tech computers, at the end of the book, let’s bug out, the volcano, shaped charges, the hippo attack, not have Ross be at fault, her psych profile, the female lead has to be perfect, the final scene, the hot air balloon, she hands the male Amy tickler, so forgettable, could you throw this away for me?, the laser, blowing up a satellite wasn’t enough, we need this emotional catharsis, we need to have the guy have something to do, they made the corporation be the bad guy, life insurance policy, in and out alive, take no more risks, they’re not slave drivers, very charitable to the mineral exploration unit, a Hollywood thing, you can’t get nuance in film, lay it out for the reader, this character is heroic and this character is a coward, puts the diamond in the laser, setting greys on fire, brutal compared to what’s in the book, some sympathy, the clapping on the head, the rock paddles, Michael Crichton is way better than Hollywood, even the jungle looks fake, second unit out to Africa, Costa Rica, the Zinge city was okay, if they had done it in the sixties it would be a really nice matte painting, ruin, a lost city in the modern day, plausible, the gemstones are gone, industrial diamonds are still there, a cool driver for the plot, explain, backstory why his idea about computers needing these things for WWIII, his focus on the importance of tech, satellite communication and analysis, repurpose it for translating, a lot more work, it all comes down to the real stuff with Koko the gorilla, in the text, 10-15% of the book is just that, up to speed on what they’re doing, the night goggle, what kind of growth, a lot of this in Brazil, lost ruins everywhere, all these mounds, this used to be a cultivated land, some sort of civilization, the idea of a lost world, the Hyborian Age, Archeron, Younger Dryas, Queen Of Sheba a real lady, cities in Africa long ago, a Robert E. Howard or H. Rider Haggard style story up to date, racial memories, a theory come back with MK Monarch, they’re designation, mind kontrol, people trying to make wind up assassins, we seem to have a lot of, genetic memory of where to go and what to do, generational trauma, the CIA and DARPA spent a lot of money, remote viewing, based on reality, a guy had violent seizures, put a chip in him, detect an oncoming seizure, Mengele style experiments, not from the killer’s POV, control his kills, this has racial memory, they had what Amy had done to them, I like tickles, become an attack dog, control these slaves, prevent people from stealing, this goes back to Thak, taken away from his parents, weren’t much of tools and clothes, under the control of a local billionaire, sympathy for the grey apes and the regular apes, Amy?, Munroe is fun, the competent one, so much action, the war starts, jump out of the airplane, river rafting, the Michael Crichton website, he went after, he was a mountain climber, a scuba diver, a real adventurer, a funny scene, when the hippopotamuses attack, the trainer/tickler, he looks over at the female form of our heroine, a moment later he sees the sweat on her back, that desire passes, Travels by Michael Crichton, selected part of his life, guru training stuff in the desert, drinking too much, hanging out with movie stars, went to Belize with his sister, almost died down there, wasn’t dead, an immediate desire to have sex, that was really fucked up, I resisted, basing your writing but on your noticing of your interests and then projecting, he overplays that, the excuse to get the lost city of Zinge, looking around the area, Dian Fossey, as it happens Sigourney Weaver, Laura Linney is a housekeeper, blast these aliens with the laser beam, put them on the endangered species list, Love Actually (2003), brittle smile, Delroy Lindo, the guy from Oz, Crichton loves the side characters, delve into the Kikuyus, time spent figuring out what Amy is thinking, we only get her words, a power glove, speak and spell, Amy Love Tickles, kind a goofy, this book being a science fiction book, a Canadian author, [Peter Watts’s Blindsight], this is there place, these invaders come in, walk around the place that’s our, a microscopic colonialism, this far and no farther, stone clappers and our culture of skull crushing, they’re meat eaters, they also killed gorillas, a weird half-civilization that stood apart, co-developed, once they got up to speed with language, they develop a culture, got a visit from Robin Williams, she’s still in the zoo, I want to be a mother, I wanna be a mom, they gave her a kitten, another one, treating these creatures equally, wish fulfillment, everybody gets happy, doing monkey things, we’re taking over your expedition, runs out of money conveniently, closer to the book somehow, more like Aliens and Terminator, fragile smile, Linda Hamilton, a soft girl a hard woman, Cameron does girls well, one of his wives, the lady who made No Escape (1994), Ray Liotta, just gang war, very b movie, the greatest b movie every, Deep Rising (1998), Wes Studi is amazing, The Last Of The Mohicans (1992), so evil, motivated, very specific revenge, nephew loves it, Dance With Wolves (1990), you don’t need 7 movies to be a champion, the epicness, the way it is done, the story proper is fine, why are people shitting on him, who wants to hang out with rich assholes, the weirdest Michael Crichton book, of an age, volunteering in the library, teen service hour, the new one was Airframe, the plane goes haywire, lands successfully, something went really wrong, the TSA investigation of what happened, basically Boeing, dueling conspiracies, a fascinating book, aircraft incident investigation, the pilot let his son come into the...

Jesse and Scott talk about Ring Around The Sun by Clifford D. Simak Talked about on today’s show: Galaxy 1952, 1953, one of his earliest novels, Cosmic Engineers, Empire, not really Simakian, very Campbelly, Campbell rejected it, City, guess the right answer, what does the D standfor, the D stands for Philip K. Dick, this book is superDick, kinda wild, a kitchen sink, so much happening, under the discipline of a competent writer, a great writer but competence is not the word for him, not natural, tons of wild ideas, under control, why does the little girl show up in the first scene?, cookin breakfast, infodump, why are you not married, this book is largely about childhood, child-like, we’ve been following an android the whole goddamn book, growin a beard, getting hungry, the big conflict is he’s fighting with himself, split into three, given his essence, what kinda book is this?, fairyland, as one might, familiar with fairyland, the topped stripes, a very strange book, David Pringle, a critic, The 100 Best Novels 1949-1984, an English Language Selection, 2 simaks, Way Station and City, 1949-1984, this is a good book, a Tall Tale, too complicated for its own good, prose style, a new plot twist in almost every chapter, a very ornate book, the McCarthyite era, economic speculation, technological panaceas, telepathic androids, robots who are also hungry, a very good Simak novel, after reading Shakespeare’s Planet, Way station, good book, sparkier, All Flesh Is Grass, Stephen King, parallel structure, not just because it has androids, a forever car, at the end of his career, a ton of Simak, keep going, recurring things, revist these things, houses, something was in the house, a bit of mental separation to avoid conflation, coming from everything you witnesses prior, every person has in common, they had some sort of childhood, even if you’re six and im sixty, graduation, your first job, your first love, start with the basics, always a possibility, Simak is not a boy, gotta get that top, almost Bradburyesque, the system that we live in, the economy, Star Trek economics, the forces, people protecting what they have, extraction, it doesn’t seem possible, not as good as The Visitors, almost all the parts, false notes, so many sparks, as maturity sets upon you, that theme I touched on earlier, very mysterious, setup pretty early, rumours of a forever car, it’s cheap, when things are happening in the economy, participate or not participate, cultural discipline like the Amish, they have to review it, they have to make the case, a benefit vs. a disruption, assailed by iphones and androids and robots and waymos, you can’t control what your government decides to subsidize or ban, all you can do is see what’s happening, the solution, the pretentionists, super-interesting, grilling him, what his particular cosplay is about, a sign of what’s going on, the conflict, there is technicality conflict, partly fighting with himself, why is this disruption happening, Simak would like some alternatives, razor, lightbulb, everything is free, how close they are, comin out of WWII, this cold war thing, spread outside of the cities, a big country, no target, constant extreme disappointment and hopeful, the mob is in the background, he doesn’t let that get him down, not a black pill book, locking us into ways of behavior, he’s searching for it, can’t we just all agree, a nice walk, changing of the seasons, an agrarian populist, doesn’t want cities making all the rules, we need farmers, making sure that way of life is protected, rustic rather than agrarian, people who love the countryside, people’s views on policies, one colour another colour, different motivations, the people have needs, one needs a truck and the other needs a subway pass, the uniparty (whatever flavour) doesn’t give you the cheap reliable bus or truck, supersmart, what if we take the idea of automation and use it as an application of disruption for the benefit of people, teetering on the edge of being evil, Crawford is a representative, a think tank, a billionaire class or higher, deep down they’re all the same guy, essentially just Simak, we’ve got to do something, the doing something is writing this book, for serialization in Galaxy, Simak was a newspaperguy, the Minneapolis Star, keeps you in a world, an academic, who the president is, tax policy, you have to understand it and get it out there everyday, being a political advisor, the politicans don’t do any research, so many things going on in this book, what’s the motivation behind this, even the Cold War might be wrapping up, set in the 80s (or 77), worries about the economy going bad, the word carbohydrates, we don’t just need foodbanks, soylent green, a FOOD episode, Gravy Planet aka The Space Merchants, on a parallel earth, manufacturing carbohydrates, wood goes in cellulose comes out, the scene on one of the covers, exploring the factory, bringing in raw materials, who is paying for all those robots, selling at a subsidy, inputs are free, drill down, what his economic solution, nobody gets paid anything, all profits, everybody gets everything, communism, altruism, Crawford is a sympathetic evil guy, I wanna let you live, make me understand it, you can’t threaten the way things are, the alternate people who seem leaderless, Robert A. Heinlein, By His Bootstraps, time doesn’t exist, this book has a lot going on, a coup happening, a breakoff civilization, agrarian populist, there’s no voting, there’s only opting in or dropping out, this is not an evil book, Beggars In Spain, Slan, mutants, quasi science fiction, his first sale is published in 1952, 1953, Clifford Dick Simak, Dick’s not influenced by this, this is a parallel extraction, Dick cites Null-A and Van Vogt, Realms Of Fantasy, renfaire shit, Society For Creative Anachronism, the 70s, mutant = X-men, rebellion, The Golden Man, the danger room, his subversion of mutants, what if they’re superattractive to women but don’t know how to read, women with three breasts, so mutated they look like slugs, so mutated we don’t recognize them as mutants, what John W. Campbell was asking for: more mutants, mutant stories, in essence, you’re supposed to think I’m a SLAN, we the people who can see the future, man walking on the Moon, telepathy, an autist when it comes to tops, he can think about childhood real good, I can read a different science fiction next week, the podcast mutant, observation/joke/question, people on twitter, how much to spend on editorial revisions/covers, they’re in the bubble, you’re the weirdo, as a percentage of the population, people who read 10 books a year, they absolutely exist, 1 guy Tony C. Smith, discovered science fiction as an adult, got excited about reading like a kid, knew how to read, just didn’t do it, book addicts, get books cheaper, give books cheaper, can’t afford them, and thus SFFaudio was born, a family of readers, both sets of grandparents, reading something non-fiction, an immediate upbringing, ancestrally, school teacher, shop teacher, great uncle, voracious reader, great grandparents, their book collection if they had one, you inherit things you don’t even realize, they have different things, are you ashamed of your books, gi joes, transformers, music, a personal culture for each family, used to be anyway, figuring out what this book dealing with, it’s so big, society and the personal, the weirdest aspect, that’d be loving himself?, the most broken part of the book, too spinning in on itself, wow, an interesting thoughtful guy, recurring, hopefulness, knowledge in the stars, Time Is The Simplest Thing, disrupting the economy, read this week, chapter 33, so he was an android, an artificial man, the cunning of man’s mind, the mutants did!, even he himself would never know, artificial women too, and a host of other gadgets, wreck the race from which they sprang, China is disrupting our economy!, good jobs, the mystery of the story, how he composed the book, it mostly fits together, the mystery is less important than rumniating on the topics themselves, sparky full of ideas, flying witches on broomsticks, steal ideas, bring them home through Mexico, Walmart style disruption stores, wow, rejected by the girl’s family, fairyland of youth, memory, super-hilarious, the past is the most interesting place, a hilarious and interesting genre, the Merryland books, 1672ish, Erotupoia, Bettyland, a genre of fiction, a visitor reports back on a place he went to, a geographical version of a woman’s body, hills over there, rivers down here, having fun, making fun of the genre, with childhood, that Bradburyesque sense, certain scenes, endless summer, how come we can’t live in a good world, feel that, meanwhile, boardroom tables, privacy policy, extract more from you, televisions are so cheap, they’re using the tv to influence, Netflix button, put ads in your operating system, Enshittification by Cory Doctorow, the whole point is to extract from you, a car you can hand down to your grandkids, forever clothes, forever razor, Stressed Out by 21 pilots, momma sang us to sleep, build a rocketship, you need to make money, getting out from under, whoever’s doing this, Vickers says, and his parents need to be thawed out, so it turns out…...

The SFFaudio Podcast #891 – The Lost Continent by C. J. Cutcliffe Hyne (9 hours 11 minutes) read by Alan Winterrowd and Mark Nelson for LibriVox, followed by a discussion of it. Participants in the discussion are Jesse, Alex (Pulpcovers), and David J. West Talked about on today’s show: 1900, the book public domain, one of the narrators abandoned it, it’s up on LibriVox, the last 5 chapters are by a different guy, Mark Nelson is a good narrator, an off day, suddenly became a different guy, the first narrator, in Virgin Planet, quay, not kway, it’s key, grandma was an english teacher, a big Q up there, interesting, people love this book, a great D&D campaign book, an amazing campaign setting, it wasn’t awful, describe this book to someone, not nearly as fun as it sounds, Goddess Of Atvatabar, way more fun, invade the inner earth, do colonialism, listings, here’s the art, more priests, castles in the air, imagination, you can just conjure, vr world, look there’s some cookies on a plate, fades away, all sorts of interesting stuff, the magic is more science, The Hunt For Red October catterpillar drive, atlantean technology, the victorian sensibilites, how many things he brought into it, it was serialized over six months, some revisions for the book publication, you can’t really smooth it out, another meeting with that priest, walking around the hallways, Lin Carter’s forward, something with a little more punch, the dinosaurs and the tech, the pulpy aspect, about that introduction, the Ballantine cover, the checkerboard at the base, a masonic book?, a really short foreward, other atlantean books, de Camp would have really enjoyed it, Clark Ashton Smith, not allowed to be, not involved, an excommunicable offense, recruited, not a joiner, part of a structure, in their recruitment, you have to believe in god, in the normal way, other gods as well, trying to expand?, aprons and such, is there any evidence in the book, at the base, if you go to London, the City Of London, checkerboard things, a youtuber who walks around London, hiding in plain sight, on the Metropolitan police, the tartan of the guy who brought it in, based on his career, that important in the UK, amazing skill, a long boat trip, a lot of power, buddy buddy, a conspiracy hidden in plain sight, the construction of atlanis, a giant pyramid, apparently not, Dean Ellis, got his remit by reading the book or being told what to paint, would have noticed, some amount of ancient lost knowledge, a Masonically influenced story, he destroys the evil at the end of the book, what’s in the ark, the secrets, the evil empress, immortality?, etc., this knowledge is lost, all the other cults, Rosicrucian, thoughts have wings, do you ever think you were an ancient god, maybe I was, Atlantis, cool man, the framing device, the occasional cave tiger fight, the very long and drawn out, some swineherd’s daughter raised above her station, sword and sandal lady, more like Zenobia in Hour Of The Dragon, pure of heart, the girls in this book, mess up the pronunciation, the twin sister, she feels like a chekov’s gun that never goes up, the chessboard pattern, the characters are very maneuvered, lots of pawns, an image from When Worlds Collide, the space ark, an ark in this book, the cover of one of the sons of Krypton, the story of Superman is basically that of Moses, put in the basket and sent down the river and becomes good, helps people, he’s a superguy, a big honking novel from the 1930s, Balmer and Wylie, as you would expect, coming from the bible, the earth is gonna get hit by a rogue planet, to save the people, a machine gun setup, trying to get on the ark, 2012 (2009), really good, great disaster movie bandwagon, the destruction of the world, earthquakes and lava, just barely manages to get through, this is a comedy, supposed to be laughing, took the remit, Star Trek, like every other show, Paradise, high ratings, the president’s been assassinated, underground bunker in Colorado, regular drama, Fallout, Silo, a spaceship, a generation ship, they’re in a bunker, an old Doctor Who episode, colonizing old Earth, a repeated theme and idea, a mechanistic book, priests being moved around, is this supposed to be that, we are above the fray, in a brotherhood, C.J. Cutliffe Hyne was aware of Masons, the first episode on Battlestar Galactica, is he a mason? 33, could be, numerology, the meanings of numbers, 42, 69, six seven, 69 Barrow Street by Lawrence Block, good for jokes, our hero, kinda stiff, sometimes he has a beard, they wrote him as this great hero uninterested in women, what is the point of writing this character, have you not learned to woo yet, if Conan was suddenly thrust into this book, you need to fulfill this role, Black Colossus, much more concise too, not the worst, Ben-Hur, a slow pace, 5 hour book maximum, to warrant all of the text, forbidden magic, the island sinks, the priests sink it, the negative culmination, she’s the key to unlocking why Atlantis sinks, what went wrong exactly?, upset with the priests, he’s a priest guy, they worship the sun?, Zeus?, not a random name, that stuff is not worked out, the high gods, references to a pantheon, 9 years in the jungle, stuff happens, why does the girl have a twin sister?, torn between the two, 2 identical women, a box to check, did nothing with it, more degeneracy, not a lot of showing it, the queen is psychotic and evil, the whole country became this degenerate, struck down for their arrogance, pushing in this degenerate direction, very casual slavery, enslaving all these Europeans, some kind of hubris, the sailors, an entourage, parading on her elephant, kill em all or whatever, out to see, such a hardscrabble life, take all his stuff, stab anybody, a viewpoint, these people are contemptible, way before the ark stuff, justifying the drastic action that happens, it didn’t feel new, our hero is very formal, when Hamlet comes back from school, investigate this and figure it out, I’m not gonna marry you just yet, mechanically placed, the game being played drags it out, and yet … cave tiger!, brontosauruses were recently discovered, a mixed audience, Pearson’s, interested in science, wireless telegraphy, astrophotography, ballooning, hero indian guys in Indian, a mixed general magazine, serialized novels in the 1890s, Sherlock Holmes novels, that thing holds up, tighter, basically forgotten, John Buchaneque thrillers, lots of interesting setups and no amazing gelling, a traditional gothic, kicks Sherlock Holmes out of the story, it can hold together, Agatha Christie was popular for a reason, Deucalion, son of Prometheus, he calls it out in the prologue, the introduction, the same trick used in William Hope Hodgson’s The House On The Borderlands, awesome setup, our two guys, lifting rocks to get his workout, Canary Islands, not a normal place to be, Canary Islands is connected with the Atlantis myth, boom we’re in the Yucatan, pyramids out there, colonies of Atlantis, weird hairy neanderthals, can I get some of that, every continent on the planet has pyramids, the one pyramid in Antarctica is probably just a mountain, Peru, St. Louis, a very stable structure, a very recognizable structure, really old, a tower is gonna disappear, many such great wonders, wandering around the pyramid, stabbing behind the curtain, a monkey in a cape, you never know, oh yeah it is a victorian novel, he’s not one of the famous names, cold sleep with our girl, her hair gets long, is she gonna come out of this okay?, a sleeping beauty, awesomely connected to anything, if it had been a surprise, 9 years go by, complaints, having read too many novels, enthusiastic, a good introduction, his own fiction writing, weird thread, some teacher of creative writing, I want to be a novelist, they can’t anybody, I don’t read novels, that never happened kind of events, that’s being ableist, I’m a novelist because I want to run a television show, comics being made to be Netflixes, not a good comics, a visual connection, a Robert E. Howard or a Westlake, Cowboys And Aliens, Harrison Ford and Daniel Craig, a storyboard, the audience is for the execs, Men In Black, more like the comics, how many sequels?, soft reboot, the images that stick, old Galaxy covers, a robot body, a showcase of tropes, fun things to see, playoff against the comedy, there’s something wrong with books today, a New York Times utube short, the edits, mass market paperbacks have died, very sad news, the substance of the piece, here’s Stephen King, sold the paperback for Carrie, $400k, that changed her mood, it was largely novels, the cheap paperback, that media, that medium, the physical size of that format, Tolkien wrote a book, 6 books, 3 volumes, 1 novel, James M. Cain paperback, the Ballantine ones, thinner than the thick of your thumb, that format is connected to the thickness of the paper, portability, games is the premiere medium, tiktok, mindless short form brain rot, movies position of primacy, short stories, little tiny markets for it, Clark Ashton Smith, A Vintage From Atlantis, maybe the book would be better if it had a map, random encounters, might be pterodactyls, rocs, corrupt empire, before the continent sinks, overthrow the empress, fail and try to escape, he didn’t set anything interesting there, this early in the game, bringing in the dinosaurs, the megafauna, touching on the witchqueen, older movies, not unvaluable,...

The SFFaudio Podcast #890 – Rogues In The House by Robert E. Howard (53 minutes) read by Alex (Pulpcovers), followed by a discussion of it. Participants in the discussion are Jesse and Alex (Pulpcovers) Talked about on today’s show: with a little bit of relish, how little dialogue Conan gets, interesting about it, the first 2 chapters, a little exchange about chapter length, what chapters are for, Agatha Christie novels, chapter titles, help tell the story, earliest being read to experience, An Unexpected Part, Tolkien was a master of chapter titles, “spoiler” vs. anticipation, little fake rhyme, One Fled One Dead One Sleeping In A Golden Bed, the fled is Conan, the red priest, the sleeping in a golden bed, what about poor Thak?, dead, bled out, maybe this is too soon, reflecting on what the story is really about?, set in a city state, we never get the name, nationalists and patriots, funnily, some response about the Reacher series, Conan with a pension and patriotism, 3 main dudes, accessory figures including the girl, clearly so much backstory to this, the Dark Horse comic, all issues, so many issues, the Gunderman, long betrayal, she gets a name, why she’s mad at Conan, all implied, you don’t really need it, ends up in prison, kills her new boyfriend, naked in a cesspit, a mirror, why is she doing that?, working for this fence, the main badguy is a priest to the king, knows everybody’s secrets, his house is full of tech, the last Conan we did, The Tower Of The Elephant, a guarded house, a dog, lions, black lotus, gray lotus, loved his lotuses, a servant master relationship, alien from space, space elephant, acolyte betrayed him, stapled him to a couch, a monkey turned on his master, he knows how to do it, he’s basically a man!, he’s learned his lessons so well, roles are reversed, slightly reversed and twisted, housebreaker, steal the jewel, explicitly hired to kill the guy, I would like to loot the house, too much patriotism and nationalism, the “maze”, full of shit, literal shit, unnamed into the story, some satisfaction out of that, she’s a hooker, a woman of loose morals, sleep her way to whatever she needs, a hard world, kills the most recent guy, he’s mad, threatens her with the knife, Thak does the same thing, Nabonidus, Murillo, stab him, eat em, let em go, a blood rage about his life, monkey man doesn’t talk much, kinda like a maze, now watching through mirrors, hidden cameras, double mirrors, the acid vats, explain your disappearence, this is just like an Epstein story, the acid he ordered in the emails, a puppeteer, a cutout, many theories, cutouts in use, social media people, influencers, bounties, this number of likes and views, streamers and whatever, certain messages, hashtags, the only purpose for hashtags is to punctuate jokes, #BrassBra, get things trending, read good stories, #KetchupAndMustardGetup, wearing both red and yellow, a person your using as a tool, pawns are not important, you can sacrifice your queen, trap the other person, cutouts are pawns, to protect you, explicitly discussed in the story, took Thak from his people when he was a cub, they’re gonna be men in 100,000 years, we’re Thak, Thak is a man, a worthy opponent, typing skills, very interesting, as a shadow of Nabonidus, why people buy dogs, mostly for protection and alarm system, hard to train, expensive, a little thing you keep in your purse, why he’s rebelling, so to with Murillo, a nobleman, chopped off his ear, do what I say or knuckle under, he’s evil because he’s enforcing his will on other people, how’s this different, stealing honestly, he’s assassinating honourably, a debate with himself, he uncuffed me, the honourable thing to do, the moral framing for the story, keep control of the city, famously unnamed, Jenna comes from Roy Thomas, the Marvel version, on page 7, Arnold Schwarzenneger holding up a lady, I put two inches on my muscles, Conan The Destroyer sort of has the Thak scene, The Mirrors Of Tuzun Thune, one of the better post-Conan sword sorcery movies, Krull, good things in it, some of the action is quite good, the tone is wrong, a guy on twitter doesn’t like the first Conan movie, a distillation of the ideology of many of the stories, a scene from Rogues And The House, enjoying the riches after stealing from the tower, the guards come in and arrest him, I need you to kill a man, or get my daughter back, we’re free, he has this abiding ulterior motive, revenge, childhood trauma, after his resurrection, bodily dead, in other Conan stories, The Phoenix On The Sword, we’re patriots we love our country, usurped the proper throne from the proper heir, 19th century French, Ataturk, so sketched, Mirror For Princes, the mirror is for the reader, always, Red Nails, crossing the jungle, I like you girl, I’m busy, suddenly dragon, will say things that make them seem naive, Delcardes’ Cat, a talking cat, I’m not Murillo, I’m Conan, over his shoulder in his thoughts, he doesn’t say much, not be distanced from his POV, make judgements, why do people like the Conan stories?, he just says I’ve had enough of this city, you mentioned a horse, curious to see, before I walked the road Nabonidus walked this night, aware of death, the different between a childlike love of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, the point of a story like this, shit happens, why is Thak dead and Conan alive?, he survived the thing that should be unsurvivable, caught up with the nationalist shit and this patriotic shit, a personal propaganda, hmm, yes, I agree, the story works as a whole, literally the sewer of the house, there’s a mirror there, we’re invited to think of Thak, trynna trick people, or take the mantle, become the master of the house, a rebellion against being a cutout, a servant pet, not a tame tiger, fuck you I’m a man, they don’t have fire, the most interesting character in the story, picked up and used as a quasi servant, slave/pet, an experiment, can I teach this thing to do my bidding, the word shadow, one of his favourite words, he learned what I taught him, at once body guard and servant, being partly a man, semibrain, bestial ambition, I see myself in Thak, one of the only characters?, it’s a real fight, this guy could kill Conan, he’s got gorilla strength, all the humans he fights, he brains a guy, knocked his skull open, not even a speed bump, portrayed as a rogue, a corrupt nobleman, invited to see him as honest, Robert E. Howard inviting us to admire Conan, big muscles, also canny, knocked himself out on the way because he was drunk, took him to jail, police, terrible writing and drawing, ship with gunports, am I stupid?, a reference photo, hidden off the coast, the sails are up, sloppiness, Robert E. Howard liked it, praise from Clark Ashton Smith and H.P. Lovecraft, only did two drafts, no notes, makin money, told a good story, it is fun, the mode that people don’t seem to understand, Robert E. Howard has grievances, a personal animus against city hall, or religion, how anti-religious is this story?, in contradistinction to Reacher season 3, a former cop, military cop, wanders from town to town, on the side of good, an old grievance against some guy, running a new thing, basically killing people randomly, in there working in the shadows of law enforcement willy-nilly, just murders people, it fits with the Conan mentality, Conan is not a part of the state, in the war of all against Conan will do fine, a fantasy in the way that Howard isn’t, Howard is more cynically realistic, what anchors his morality, his own sense of honour, barbarism vs. civilization, corrupt thieves, makes his way through it, rights the ship, a very interesting mirror, a monkey who thinks he’s a man, wants to be greater than he is?, we are the monkey men, Conan is comparable to Thak, superstrong, wasn’t quite tweaked up a enough, long story short, to prep for Congo by Michael Crichton, good story and very well read, the one where he takes over a pirate ship, Pool Of The Black Ones, is there pillars in that one?, Iron Shadows In The Moonlight, Queen Of The Black Coast, they’re not designed to be distinct, in this issue, new Conan story, buy the issue, all stories new, reprinted a few Lovecrafts, recording this, the ear party, rich nobleman, rich nobleman, British accent, he’s going to sound American, a John Wayne voice, what Robert E. Howard’s voice, Clark Ashton Smith’s voice, hick Californian?, top stories, the themes are really good, Conan is more invested in that story, puts on the costume, that was a weird Tuesday, he fell under her spell, this is my favourite novel, other mirrors that reflect you better, what am I missing?, this book The Lost Continent, a tentative plan to do a double, The Adventure Of The Cardboard Box, famous titles, human ear!, authors tired of their characters, The Seven Dials Mystery, Jeeves and Wooster, annoyed at writing Poirot stories, hated Sherlock Holmes, read my White Company, by Grabthar’s Hammer!, her first novel, a hot topic at the time, Belgian refugees, poor Belgium, Russians bad, poor Ukraine, why they took the the out of the Ukraine, Ukraine means borderlands, the steppe before you get to the Russian steppe, right in the Conan stories, the Border Kingdoms, we’re being manipulated at all points at all times, he’s so cynical, loves his mom, somethin going on there, maybe he’s a little mad with the ...