#310 Josh Duhamel - Transformers Star Reveals His 26-Acre Off-Grid Survival Compound

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Shawn Ryan Show — Ep. 310

Guest: Josh Duhamel (Actor, Producer, Founder of Gatlin)
Date: June 4, 2026
Theme: Survival, Fatherhood, Hollywood vs. Heartland, Prepping for Uncertainty, and Personal Growth

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Episode Overview

In this candid and wide-ranging discussion, Shawn Ryan sits down with actor Josh Duhamel—best known for his roles in Transformers and Safe Haven—to unpack Duhamel’s remarkable journey from Hollywood star to the grounded builder of a 26-acre off-grid survival compound in Minnesota. Their conversation dives deep into the myths of manhood in both Hollywood and rural America, the complexities of family, the realities of prepping, and the spiritual and physical practices they use to stay resilient in uncertain times.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. Josh Duhamel’s Dual Identity: Hollywood & North Dakota Roots

Segment: [02:14–07:13]

• Shawn introduces Josh: Acclaimed actor, director, and producer who has purposefully stayed tied to his North Dakota roots.
• Duhamel discusses the contrast between Hollywood expectations and the humility of the Midwest:
  • Quote: “People [in North Dakota] are very salt of the earth...nobody wants to stand out” (05:16, Josh Duhamel).
  • From Hollywood: “You don’t necessarily have to play the game by the [Hollywood] rules...You don’t have to believe what they tell you to believe.” (06:21, Josh Duhamel)

2. Family, Fatherhood, and Work-Life Balance

Segment: [07:13–19:37]

• Josh currently works more than ever, but desires to spend more time with family and on his compound.
• Both men discuss raising children, trying to impart grit despite their own financial successes, and struggling to stay present:
  • Quote: “You don’t get those days back.” (09:12, Josh Duhamel)
• Both dads reflect on childhood differences, giving children challenges, and the importance of example:
  • Quote: “I always make them figure it out...There’s always another way.” (16:50, Shawn Ryan)

3. Simplicity vs Complexity: Has Money Made Life Easier?

Segment: [13:23–15:41]

• Josh reveals money brings freedom, not necessarily happiness or simplicity:
  • Quote: “Spider-man, you know—with great power comes great responsibility...you can probably feel that just by what you’ve grown.” (14:12, Josh Duhamel)

4. Gifts, Gratitude, and Groundedness

Segment: [03:32–05:11], [41:43–42:47], [85:27–86:36]

• Mutual exchange of meaningful gifts: knives with biblical inscriptions, and later, Shawn gifts Josh a SIG Sauer pistol.
• Duhamel’s gratitude: “He’s super talented...I know you like knives.” (04:31, Josh Duhamel)
• Both highlight how tradition and friendship keep them grounded, especially in chaotic times.

5. Building the 26-Acre Survival Compound — Motivation, Methods, and Gear

Segment: [28:09–40:02], [42:53–46:01]

• Origin: Started as a personal retreat, then evolved with a prepping mindset after reading Patriots by James Wesley Rawls.
  • “I was...not trying to escape Hollywood, I just wanted something different that I could get away to...as the world got a little scarier—I was like, you know what, just really glad I bought this thing.” (28:24, Josh Duhamel)
• Details: Two cabins, wells, solar backup, propane, and plans for a buried shipping container bunker.
• Essentials for Prepping:
  • Water and filtration systems
  • Shelter (“I built the shelters that I needed”)
  • Hunting/fishing skills
  • Guns (“I got some nines, shotguns, rifles...all legal and registered” [39:28, Josh Duhamel])
  • Books for self-reliance, not just digital resources (43:00, Shawn Ryan)
  • Quote: “If they’re coming, they’re coming—I’m not sure if anything’s going to stop it.” (40:04, Josh Duhamel)

6. Prepping Mindset: Why and How

Segment: [40:43–46:01], [49:05–54:28]

• Fear of instability (bank crashes, AI takeover, civil unrest)
  • “I’m less afraid of zombies and more afraid of AI robots...this AI thing is moving so quickly...” (37:28, Josh Duhamel)
• Communication strategies (satellite push-to-talk radios)
• Stockpiling seeds, ammo, and practical advice: have physical books like “Back to the Basics” series, water solutions, and gardening prep.
• Family’s reaction: Wife thought compound was “a little crazy,” but now appreciates the comfort and safety it brings.

7. Societal Anxiety, Division & Spiritual Resilience

Segment: [59:29–71:41]

• Both express anxiety over social division, lawlessness, and increasing hatred:
  • “There’s a real hate problem in this country...people are irrational.” (60:54, Josh Duhamel)
  • Duhamel relays stories of being “flipped off” in LA for driving a Cybertruck.
• Returns to spirituality as a way to rise above the noise:
  • “I needed something to rise above this—the noise...so I found I needed to get back and reconnect spiritually.” (68:09, Josh Duhamel)
  • Conversation about Christian faith, the role of spiritual warfare, and how faith provides grounding amid societal instability.

8. Longevity & Men’s Health: Hormones, Peptides, and Gatlin

Segment: [75:30–85:26]

• Josh shares his journey into hormone therapy and peptide supplements: TRT, NAD, MOT C, and the “Wolverine stack” for joint & cell health.
  • “Testosterone replacement has been huge for me...brought my levels back.” (75:34, Josh Duhamel)
• Gatlin, his telemedicine company for men's and women’s health, addresses optimized aging, hormone balance, and access to reputable guidance: “We have a whole team of doctors...delivered discreetly to your house...” (79:03, Josh Duhamel)
• Brief explorations into future areas—stem cells, plasma exchange, and concerns about parasites.

9. Groundedness and Life Perspective

Segment: [85:39–86:36]

• How to stay grounded in both fame and chaos:
  • Friends and family who keep him humble, wife who “keeps everything running,” and North Dakota values.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You do belong, wherever you dream to go.” — Josh Duhamel on overcoming the Midwest mentality ([06:06])
• “You can’t manufacture hardship...All you can do is set the example.” — Josh Duhamel on raising kids without his own struggles ([18:01] and [24:58])
• “Water, electricity, shelter, protection, fishing, hunting. If you have that, you’ll survive.” — Josh Duhamel, on prepping essentials ([38:58])
• “We forget about all the stuff...in the real world and focus on what is actually important.” — Josh Duhamel on off-grid living ([54:29])
• “There’s a real hate problem in this country.” — Josh Duhamel on cultural divisions ([60:54])
• “All I can do is behave in a way that is right—loving, not filled with hate.” — Josh Duhamel on spiritual focus ([68:09])
• “I’m not going out without a fight. I’m going to stay as young and strong and virile as I can.” — Josh Duhamel on longevity and health ([80:18])

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Actionable Prepping Advice from Josh Duhamel & Shawn Ryan

| Topic | Advice / Plan | Timestamp | |------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------| | Water | Dig a well, invest in gravity filters (Berkey), have extra catchment/solar-pump backups | 38:58, 49:05 | | Shelter | Start small, build/renovate cabins, future plan for a shipping container bunker under a shed | 39:48, 40:04 | | Food | Stockpile seeds, create a food plot, grow pumpkins and wildflowers for family and wildlife | 44:17 | | Protection | Legal firearms including 9mm, rifles, shotguns, crossbow; train & maintain supplies | 39:28, 52:34 | | Knowledge | Physical books: “Back To the Basics” series for survival know-how | 43:14 | | Comms | Invest in push-to-talk satellite radios; test them on your property | 51:37 | | Mindset | Stay humble, keep close friends, remain present, draw from faith | Throughout |

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Introduction & backgrounds [02:14–07:13]
• Family, kids, work-life balance [07:13–19:37]
• Work vs. meaning: impact of financial success [13:23–15:41]
• Prepping & building the compound [28:09–41:20]
• Guns & survival gear recommendations [38:58–40:23, 52:32–53:14]
• Books & self-reliance advice [43:05–43:54]
• Social unrest & hate in America [60:05–63:59]
• Spirituality and grounding [68:09–71:41]
• Men’s & women’s health, longevity science [75:30–85:26]
• Staying grounded [85:39–86:36]

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Tone & Feel

Honest, conversational, sometimes vulnerable and often practical—this episode delivers both introspective wisdom and hands-on survival advice. Both men highlight humility, personal growth, and the value of community and faith as keys to resilience—whether in Tinseltown, the woods, or uncertain times.

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For listeners seeking inspiration on living authentically, prepping effectively, and raising a resilient family, this episode is a powerhouse of real talk and actionable insight.

Transcript

[Josh Duhamel]

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[Sean Ryan]

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Welcome to the show, man.

[Josh Duhamel]

Thank you for having me. Sean. This is. It's a real pleasure to be out here and see what you built. This is pretty impressive.

[Sean Ryan]

Thank you. Yeah, that means a hell of a lot coming from you, so appreciate it.

[Josh Duhamel]

I gotta level up, man. This is. I thought I had a cool place, but this is. This is by far and away better than that gun range. I'm definitely gonna steal that idea.

[Sean Ryan]

Maybe if we have some extra time, we can go out there, break it in. So. But let me give you an introduction here real quick.

Josh Duhamel, an acclaimed actor, director and producer known for your roles in Transformers, Safe Haven, Las Vegas and Netflix. Ransom Canyon.

You got your Start on All My Children.

Earning a daytime Emmy early in your career. You're a North Dakota native who stayed closely tied to your roots. Spending more time there is.

You've stepped away from the Hollywood lifestyle.

You've stepped into business as the founder of Gatlin, Focused on men's health and performance.

And I saw women's health, men's and women's.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

Most importantly, you're a Christian, a father, and a husband. Welcome to the show.

So a couple things crank out here

before we get going.

One, everybody gets a gift. Gummy bears.

[Josh Duhamel]

Oh, nice.

[Sean Ryan]

Probably don't go well with longevity and men's health, but

[Josh Duhamel]

these, like. Are these, like, funny gummy bears?

[Sean Ryan]

Oh, man. It's just regular gummy bears.

[Josh Duhamel]

Okay, good.

[Sean Ryan]

Made in Michigan.

[Josh Duhamel]

Nice to know. Thank you for that. I got you something, too. You want me to give it to you now?

[Sean Ryan]

Sure.

[Josh Duhamel]

I think you're gonna like this, so might as well just start with the gifts, right? So this is a knife made by my friend Cody Adolfson, Little Wolf Ironworks out of Bismarck, North Dakota.

[Sean Ryan]

Sure.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah. It's got this Damascus steel, North Dakota white tail deer antler for the handle. If you look on the back, it's got a little reading from the Bible.

[Sean Ryan]

Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another. Proverbs. Thank you.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yes, sir. Pretty cool, right?

[Sean Ryan]

That's awesome.

[Josh Duhamel]

He's super talented, this guy. Anyway, I know you like knives.

[Sean Ryan]

Thank you.

[Josh Duhamel]

I got myself one too, by the way. It's just an excuse to get myself a knife. Really?

[Sean Ryan]

This is awesome. Thank you.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah, you're welcome.

[Sean Ryan]

Appreciate it.

And then one other thing. We got a Patreon account. It's a subscription account.

They're the reason I get to sit with you here today so they get the opportunity to ask every single guest a question.

[Josh Duhamel]

Okay.

[Sean Ryan]

Josh, you've lived in two different Americas, Hollywood and North Dakota.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yep.

[Sean Ryan]

What is one lie in each world

believes about what it takes to make a man strong? And what did real life teach you instead?

[Josh Duhamel]

Oh, my gosh. What is one lie that each of those two worlds. Hollywood and North Dakota.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

H. Let me start with North Dakota. I think that one of the things that. I think my wife and I just talked about this yesterday because we have a little baby girl in the way, and she wrote in her book to her, she said, stand tall. Don't be afraid to, you know, stand tall and. And. And be exactly who you are. And I think that one thing that I had to overcome by coming from North Dakota, because it's a very humble State. The people there are very sort of salt of the earth. Nobody wants to stand out. It's just kind of like a very blue collar but commonsensical place that, you know, for me, leaving there and trying to go off to Hollywood and do things, it was a scary thing for me because I didn't feel like I deserved it. And I think that's one of the lies that I learned from North Dakota, was that you do belong. You do belong, wherever you dream to go. And I think that's one of the things that I learned from that, One of the things that held me back for a long time, really.

[Sean Ryan]

Wow.

[Josh Duhamel]

As far as one of the lies that I learned from Hollywood, I would say that. You don't necessarily have to play the game by the rules. As long as you show up, do your job, and are dependable and reliable to the people who are making whatever project you're a part of, you can believe what you want. You don't have to believe what they tell you to believe.

[Sean Ryan]

Right on, man. Good stuff. Good stuff. So I read that you are kind of putting your acting career, Hollywood career on the back burner to concentrate on family, get back to your roots and slow down.

[Josh Duhamel]

I wouldn't say I'm putting it on the back burner. I'm. I'm doing, you know, I'm actually working more now than I ever have in my life, which is great.

[Sean Ryan]

Right on.

[Josh Duhamel]

Honestly, it's like I'm very grateful for that because this is a hard business to get into and to stay relevant in. And, you know, I've been doing enough for 26 years.

[Sean Ryan]

So

[Josh Duhamel]

I would say that, you know, because I am busier now than ever. It's also made me realize that I don't want to work this much. I would rather be home with my wife and my kids and out on my, you know, compound.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

Doing that stuff. So I'm just trying to be smarter, I think. I think I'm trying to not take as many jobs, just trying to, you know, work a little bit smarter. And really, working on this company, Gatlin, is something that I'm as excited about as anything. I would rather, honestly be working on that than anything else, really.

[Sean Ryan]

I mean, I think this is an

interesting conversation because I think about this all the time. You know, we were kind of just talking outside. I got two toddlers now. Time is going six and four. Four and two, four and two. Four and two little. And time is just going by so damn fast, you know, And. And you look at old photos and you're like holy shit, man. Yeah, it moves quick.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

And you realize you're aging just as fast.

[Josh Duhamel]

Oh yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

But you don't see that.

[Josh Duhamel]

That's the truth. I got a 12 year old and to see how quickly he went from 2 to 12 is like, you know, it just, it just goes by like that. And so, you know, you know, the, the idea that I get to do it again with my little 2 year old and then this little girl that's on the way, I think you make it, makes you really appreciate it that much more. So you've got a four and a two year old. You'll see, dude, it just, it flies by, you know. So one thing I think I've learned especially From Axel, my 12 year old, is that I got to stay as present and in there with them as much as I can because you don't get those days back.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

So I mean, how are you going to do it? Because I think about, like I said,

I think about this all the time ever since my son was about 2 because I, I had, you know, the first two years I'm like, ah, they only want mom. That's, it's just diapers and boobs and milk, you know, so there's not much for dad. So I was, I was, I always

thought I will bury my head in

my work until I realize that I'm needed or wanted and.

Or start showing interest.

Maybe that's what I should say instead. And around two years old is when that started happening.

[Josh Duhamel]

Oh yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

And so I've been ever since two. I've been kind of trying to structure my business so that I can step away and, but continue but you know, spend a lot more time at home. But it's hard, it is hard to remain present at home with all this

[Josh Duhamel]

going because you're probably similar to me or I'm similar to you in some ways that we're. I mean I was born to like put my head down and work. It's all I've ever known is just to like grind my way to whatever I'm trying to get to. But do you, do you mostly live here? Do you travel a lot?

[Sean Ryan]

I travel, I mean I travel a

decent amount, but I don't. It's in and out. It's quick trips to D.C. or if I'm interviewing somebody overseas or something like that. But I, I am also have decided to work smarter. So I turn a lot of down because it's just not worth my time

[Josh Duhamel]

to be away from my. Consider that a blessing though. The fact that you get to stay. You're mostly here. Yeah, see for me it's like nothing shoots in LA anymore. So I have to go, you know, then going to bc, British Columbia to work for a month and then I go to Malaysia for six weeks and then I come back and then I go to Winnipeg for another thing. So it's like that to me is what I'd need to like, I need to like do much less of that. Because these kids, even if they come and visit, it's still, I'm on, I'm on set all day and I come home at night and I try to get them up in the morning and put them in bed at night, but it's not enough, you know, they need me more than that. And so to be traveling so much is really what kills me, you know, because I'm gone for a week and I come back and I can see my 2 year old is like grown up, you know, just in that week, different, you know, and you know, I'm missing a lot of that stuff and I don't want to do that. So I just got to be smarter about how I do it. Still got to make a living and still gotta, you know, maintain lifestyle that has become pretty expensive. But, you know, I don't need to do that. I don't need to work as much as I have been, which is what I'm really focusing on doing, just being smarter about it.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah, I read something else that said, I think you. Did you live out of your car for a while?

[Josh Duhamel]

No, no, my dad did.

[Sean Ryan]

Your dad did?

[Josh Duhamel]

My dad did for a short while after. After they got divorced. He hates when I tell this story, but it's amazing because my dad is one of my favorite people in the world. He's just incredible dude and had a really rough time coming out of, you know, the divorce. You know, we're like, why does dad have all those clothes, like on a rack in the back of his car? We found out that he was like living in there for a couple of months, so. Yeah, but I never had to do that, thank God. We did bounce around a lot as a kid. You know, we, we. After the divorce, it was a rough, several rough couple of years really after they got. I think it was in 84, before they got divorced. I think that's right. And you know, we'd bounce from house, friend's house to friend's house. And it was just, it was for us, we didn't really know much different. But there was a point I said, why do we keep moving Around. What are we doing? And then we ended up getting this little box of a house in Northeast Mina, North Dakota. And that was kind of when we started to settle in. But it was a. It was a rough couple of. Rough couple of years there.

[Sean Ryan]

So where I'm kind of going with this is, I mean, obviously your financial situation has drastically changed since those days, and

I'm kind of.

You know, I built a pretty decent business here, and I didn't come from money. I'm not used to any of this. And. And, you know, and, like, leaving the SEAL teams, leaving contracting for the CIA, you know, I was broke, and I built a really awesome business here, and now I'm not broke. But looking back, times were a hell of a lot simpler back.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

So what I want to ask you is, did. Did the money. Did the. The new financial situation, I mean, did that make your life more simple?

[Josh Duhamel]

Did such a good question, Sean. Did it make it more simple? No, I don't think it makes it more simple. What I do think it does, it buys you a little freedom, buys you the ability to. They say money doesn't bring happiness, but it sure does bring freedom to do some things that you want to. You know, you get to kind of shape the world around you a little bit more. You're not really at the mercy of anything if you can, if you're lucky enough to afford it. But I don't think it necessarily makes you any happier. You know, for me, it probably makes things a little bit more complex, you know, because with money and power and all these things, you. You know, there's like, Spider man, you know, comes great responsibility, and you can probably feel that just by what you've grown. A lot of people are dependent on you now to answer whatever questions they have throughout the day or how to. What's the next move? And, you know, all sort of falls on you. But I, you know, I posed this question to you, is how do you. How do you impart what you learned? And you've been through it, dude. You've gone, you know, all the way through the SEAL teams in the contracting and all the things that you built here because of something inside of you that had this drive to go build it, achieve it. How do you impart that on your kids? Because that's one thing that I am, you know, you can't. You can't manufacture, you know, hardship, you know.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah, I don't know, man. I think about this all the time. And my son and my daughter are wildly different. I mean, it's kind of interesting, you know, the second one comes out and you're like, I've been through this before. This will be easy.

Then they come and it's like, well, this isn't the same person at all.

[Josh Duhamel]

But.

[Sean Ryan]

But my daughter is stubborn.

She is gonna be a fucking badass. She just will not stop.

[Josh Duhamel]

She's the younger one.

[Sean Ryan]

She's the younger one, always the younger one. She's like me. My son is like, very loving, caring, always watching out for his sister.

I don't know what his drive is yet, but anyways, where I'm. I think about like, man, I same thing.

Like I have all this. These things that I've learned, you know, throughout life, and how do I inject that into my kids? You know, this major life lessons. I don't know, man.

I think one thing I do is

I'll create.

Not create scenarios, but I always make

them figure it out. So this kind of started about a year ago. And

my wife is a little more

pampering than a lot more pampering than I am.

So if he can't figure something out,

he'll ask me, you know, to help him. And I. I will help him, but I will say no, you need to figure another way out of this. There's always another way. Yeah, so what he was. He was trying to climb up this hill out of our creek. Yeah, he loves playing in the creek and couldn't get up the damn hill. And he's like, help me. Dad wants me to push him up. And I'm like, I'm not going to push you up. I'm like, you have to find another way. No matter what problem you're going to face in life, there's always an angle that you can take to accomplish what you want. And so you need to start looking around, you know, And I'll point like, hey, look, the hill isn't as steep over there. Maybe you should walk over there, you know? And so that was the first time that kind of clicked in my head. And so that's with my son. That's what I do now is I. I force him to find other avenues to get what's right. What about you?

[Josh Duhamel]

Well, that's great. That's great that you have this place to do that. That's one of the reasons I love my place out in the woods so much, is they got to figure things out, you know, Like, I had to figure. I didn't know how to do anything when I got out there, you know, I didn't know how to fix anything. I would I'd never owned a boat before. You know, all the things that go into owning land, I mean you just constantly working. So I'm at the point now My son is 12 and I'm still. That stuff doesn't stop now. It's like, okay, dude, you're gonna be looking after this place someday. You need to start watching how you want to go. You want me to pull you on the, on the tube, go get it hooked up and ready to go. And then when you're done, you gotta properly roll it up and put, you know, little things like that. To start instilling some ownership and some responsibility and accountability for it, I think is I do the same thing. I probably could have done a better job of it with my 12 year old. He's like older one, super sweet kid, very thoughtful, very compassionate kid, but doesn't have that little two year old is a little badass. That one I got to watch out for. Very strong willed, very much, very much, very physical, Much more physical than, than actually, but they're just different kids. Both amazing, but just different. So you know, that's a, you know, just to be able to start imparting whatever, whatever I know, whatever I've learned onto them, just start giving them responsibility. Let them start figuring out on their own because you can't. I'm not going to always be here, you know.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah, yeah.

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What is a piece of advice you have as being a. For being a father for your kids.

[Josh Duhamel]

My advice for being a father is I think it's just. Try to. The number one thing that my, that I learned from my dad is something he didn't even know he was teaching me is that he just the way he treated people, the. The respect that he had for people didn't matter what you know where they were at socio economically, you know the. I'll never forget this story. He used to own a used car dealership and it was right on Broadway in Minor, North Dakota. Next door to that was this old guy named Art. And Art was. Wasn't very well, well off at all. He owned a little shack on this road. Now it's all been demolished and they Built nicer, bigger buildings there. But he, this guy was one of the last holdouts. He didn't want to sell his little place. And I remember going over to his house next door to my dad's used car shop and I said, he's poor, isn't he, dad? He goes, he's not poor. He's rich because he's happy. What'd he say? He's rich. He's rich because something about that he, that he's happy, that he lives. He lives a happy life, you know, so it wasn't. He wasn't, you know, placing this guy's value or what I thought was. Value on what, you know, whether or not he made money. This is me as a little kid not knowing. Teach me that these guys, it doesn't matter how much money you have, as long as you're living a, you know, a full and happy life. And this guy did. And I think that, you know, for me it's like. I guess my point in telling you this is that I know my kids are watching me very closely and how I treat people, how I handle my own business. So the only advice I could give, because I'm not. I'm the last person to tell people to raise a kid. I'm still figuring it out myself. But they're watching you closely and the example you set is what is the way they'll go forward.

[Sean Ryan]

Damn, that's weird. You at you.

I was just going to bring that up and I lost it.

And so I asked this question.

I was going to say when we

were talking about the knowledge transfer to your kids, it's at least really. I mean, I think the best. You just said, I think the best thing you can do is just be the example that you want your kids to turn into.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

You know, and it sounds like your old man did that to you. You're back in the Midwest. And I mean I just. They are always watching and. And you know, I had a incident the other day that I'm not proud of. And we were at the airport and was taking. We were going on a little vacation. And yeah, we were, we were at

the check in counter, we got the

bags and there was some mishap. It wasn't our fault. And I was like, you are gonna, you are gonna make us miss our vacation. And in a very heated way.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

And then my son looked at me and said the exact same thing to the woman behind the counter. I did a face like.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

I was like, that wasn't. That wasn't good.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, listen, give yourself a little grace. But it's true. I have a story. Some of that. Last year, I was taking my son to school, and we take the shortcut because, you know, we live in. He goes to school about 40 minutes. We have to drive in the heavy traffic to get there, and it's just. It's always just a slog. So I take the shortcut where you got to kind of jump in. And there's just a lot. You know, it's a standstill, basically. So I was trying to get in, and this lady wouldn't let me in, and I was like. And she just, like, literally cut me off. I was like, what the. I'm like, what are you doing? And all of a sudden I hear dad. I was like, oh, I forgot. My kid was in the back seat. He couldn't believe it. You know, I'm. The poor kid is mortified. I'm like, yeah, there's a good example of, you know, your kids are watching. Do I want him to behave like that? No. So, you know, I guess it keeps me in check, too.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah. Yeah. So how did you. Did you grow up in the woods?

[Josh Duhamel]

So I grew up outside of town in Minot, North Dakota, in this little area called Robinwood, about five miles out of town. And. And, yeah, we were out in the country, and I'd spend all day, especially in the summer, just out in the woods catching frogs, catching turtles, salamanders, fishing, riding our bikes wherever we could go. And that was kind of. And then my parents got divorced. We had to move into town. And that's when, you know, that was. That was sort of like the next phase of my life. But my early days, from time, I was probably a baby, all the way up through fourth grade, I was out in the country. So I think the part of the reason why I have this place now is me sort of reliving that, you know, the little Huck Finn story that I lived as a kid, you know, I just love being out there. Really brings me back to being a kid. And for me to now, you know, see my kids, experience this and watch them sort of get to do the same things I did growing up was part of the reason I did it, honestly.

[Sean Ryan]

Really?

[Josh Duhamel]

Is that why you asked?

[Sean Ryan]

I asked because I was just curious if you move.

If you move back there for familiarity, you know? And did you wanted your family to experience what you had or if you were strictly there for the zombie apocalypse?

[Josh Duhamel]

No, it was in the beginning. It was this, I guess I bought this place 16, 17, years ago. And in the beginning, it was. It was just because I just wanted to get away. I just wanted something really remote, really private. I was, you know, not trying to escape Hollywood. I just wanted something different that I could get away to if I needed to. And then it became something as. As the world got a little bit scarier. I was like, you know what, Just really glad I bought this thing. In fact, I'm going to buy the property next door, too. So then I had 55 acres out there, and I was like, these two little cabins. And I really started thinking more about, like, okay, how could I live out here so that if shit hits the fan, I can just live out here without, you know, completely unplugged. So then I started taking steps to do that, which was, you know, solar, which I never use. We ended up bringing electricity in, but everything runs off of propane, you know, and, you know, if we could fish, I could hunt. I could. I could literally. We got three walls out there, so I got plenty of water and enough food if I need it. And then, you know, all the other stuff you need.

[Sean Ryan]

Dude, I love prepping, so I want to hang out on this topic as long as possible.

[Josh Duhamel]

I could talk about it all day.

[Sean Ryan]

All right. Okay. Where did you start? So you start. You got a small hunk cabin out in the middle of the woods, right?

[Josh Duhamel]

So I bought. So, okay, So I bought 12 acres, half a parcel, nothing on it, from this old guy named Cody Craig. Cody K O T T E. And then he passed away shortly after that. And he had a little hunting shack in the woods on the. On the parcel, the half parcel next to where I. Where I just bought. No electricity, no water, outhouse. You know, he had these little copper wires running through there that he would learn. Turn on these. These little lanterns, these little oil lanterns. That's how he lived out there. So I. Then I had a little structure for the first time. So I had 26 acres and a little cabin that I never said because it was just so rat infest or mouse infested. I was like, it's too much. I'd leave there with a sore throat. Every time I'd spend the night. I was like, I'm going to clean this place up before I decide to like, really certain staying out here. So we'd go out, we'd camp a couple days, and then we just start fixing it up. And then the other property next door that went up for sale, another 26 acres with another little cabin that had electricity but no water. So we dug another well, so I had a well and I brought electricity up to the top one. Then I have this little one on the water with electricity, but no, built a well there. So now I have these two little cabins, but they're both little now. We've redone them now, and they're nice little guest cabins, but I still didn't have. And so during COVID we spent all of our time out there. I mean, in. We had to wash dishes in the lake, shower in the lake. It was like. It was like.

[Sean Ryan]

Oh, yeah, it was legitimately rough, like

[Josh Duhamel]

homesteading for the first 10 years. I loved it.

[Sean Ryan]

That's awesome.

[Josh Duhamel]

Because I was constant. It was pickaxes and it was shovels, and it was clearing little spaces. I remember I found this little area down by the water that was all sand, but it had all these dead logs and all the kind of overgrown. I know. And I just knew that if I could clear this off, we'd have, like, this beautiful little beach. And sure enough, that became Axel Beach. My oldest son. I named it after him. And that's where the kids just run wild. Now it's all cleared up and it's beautiful now, but it was, you know, a lot of just. And then I got a. I got a tractor and I got a skid steer, and then it got to go. You know, we. We started moving because then you can pop stumps and rocks and clear things much quicker. But for the first 10 years, it was. It was. It was literally like homesteading. And I loved it because I'd leave. I'd leave la. I'd go out there and I'd spend two weeks and just work on whatever my little project was. And over the years, now it's become like a really cool little spot that we just. You know, my family loves it. My parents, my sisters, my wife's family, they all come out. We just, like, make the most memories out there. It's amazing.

[Sean Ryan]

That's awesome, man. What are you worried about when it comes? What got you into the prepping? What was the last straw?

[Josh Duhamel]

I think it's. I've always had this, I don't know, recurring, not nightmare. It's more of like a daymare. About. I read this book by Wesley Rawls called Patriots the Guide to Surviving the Coming Collapse. And it was based on the 2008 market crash, and things almost got sideways in Los Angeles and all over the country. I don't know if you remember, the banks and everything was. Were freezing, and it was like a whole thing. But then the government bailed them out. And they sort of eased everybody's stress. This book plays it out as if it just kept going. And there are these certain cells around the country that had a plan that if this, if, if. If things went sideways, we get on our walkies and we all sort of send a message and we all go to our spot. And it was in Idaho, and it was like this camp where they would have. It was like a little mini militia almost where they, you know, everybody had a. Had a certain skill sets. Some were medical, some were weaponry, some more construction somewhere, farming, communications. They all had, they all contributed. And if you didn't contribute, you were out. So it was like this little mini sort of militia of people that came with a certain set of skills that helped sort of fend off anybody that came. So that was kind of the beginning of it for me. It's like I'm going to. I need to build something that if things do go sideways, I got to have a plan to go to Los Angeles, and I got to have a plan to get from Los Angeles to here. And once I'm here, we'll be able to figure it out because I'll have what I need. So that was kind of the beginning of it. And now it's your plan to get out of la? I got a motorcycle now. I got kids, so I don't know what I would do. I still gotta figure. I gotta, I gotta, I got, I gotta. I got a little dirt bike, but now I got a wife and I got three kids. So it's a. The plan is shifting. It's, It's. It's in development still. But, you know, I had a whole thing where, okay, if I have to, I'll get a boat in the marina. I'll take that up the coast and I'll have a truck in a parking garage. And all. I go crazy with this stuff.

[Sean Ryan]

Damn.

[Josh Duhamel]

Because, you know when, when things lock down in Los Angeles and anything will set that off, I mean, you. Those freeways lock up and there's no getting out.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

So I need a way, like, to get out of there, like through the hills, down to the water, up and then, Then get out. See, if I was a little bit tougher, Sean, I, I could have been a Navy seal, but I just don't. I'm just not made of the same stuff you are, the same mindset, just not the same toughness. But that was kind of. I mean, I go. I really go deep with it. I really think about, okay, how. How do we do that? How do we get out of here, you know, and that was. That was the biggest. And it still is one of the biggest things. If we're there and we get stuck, how do we get out?

[Sean Ryan]

If you looked at dual citizenship, what do you mean? Like, are you that far down the rabbit hole yet?

[Josh Duhamel]

You mean like Canada?

[Sean Ryan]

Canada. A lot of. I mean, the top five places, I think are Ireland. If you have Irish roots, you can get it immediately. Portugal, but you got to learn Portuguese. Italy was on there. Canada was on there. What else was on there? Paraguay was on there.

[Josh Duhamel]

Really?

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah. Which was always. I've always said, if I got to get the hell out of Dodge, I'm going to Paraguay.

[Josh Duhamel]

Why?

[Sean Ryan]

It's too far south for the cartels to be running drugs up. There's no ocean, which means nobody wants to vacation there. There's nothing there but farming and fucking cows.

[Josh Duhamel]

Really?

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah. And nobody knows about it.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

So that was always my spot. So when I.

[Josh Duhamel]

When. Have you taken any measures to do that or.

[Sean Ryan]

Not yet. I'm like, in process.

[Josh Duhamel]

But do you think you'd have to leave the country to do. To do all this

[Sean Ryan]

peace of mind?

I'm not.

I'm not like, in a. I'm not

gonna abandon the country anyways. I mean, I'm gonna fight for it. But if. Yeah, you know, but other people have to fight for it, too. And if nobody's fighting for it, then one guy fighting for it isn't going

to do a damn thing.

[Josh Duhamel]

I think there are plenty of people that fight for it, though.

[Sean Ryan]

You think so?

[Josh Duhamel]

God, yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

I don't know, man. Sometimes I think it's all talk.

[Josh Duhamel]

I don't know,

[Sean Ryan]

which is why I'm looking at dual citizenship.

[Josh Duhamel]

I haven't gone that far down the rabbit hole, but, you know, so what. So what are your fears about? I mean, I know we're taught we sound like crazy, you know, tinfoil hat

[Sean Ryan]

wearing, but I mean, I mean, I

[Josh Duhamel]

think AI robots could be a real thing.

[Sean Ryan]

You think AI robots could be.

[Josh Duhamel]

I mean, this AI thing is moving so quickly that I don't know if we can ever. If we got to get our. We got to wrap our arms around this thing or it's gonna.

[Sean Ryan]

Well, it's interesting that all the people building AI are also building bunkers. Like Mark Zuckerberg that put a huge bunker in Hawaii.

[Josh Duhamel]

They know a lot more about it than we.

[Sean Ryan]

I know that.

[Josh Duhamel]

It's like.

[Sean Ryan]

So speaking of AI, are you familiar with Claude?

[Josh Duhamel]

Yes.

[Sean Ryan]

Okay, so before you came on, we had Claude Anthropic. Say I scraped the entire Internet on

you and come up with the most viral question that would land with the audience. Okay, here's the context.

You spent a decade in Transformers films where the entire premise is robots coming to kill humans. Then last month you told Fox news you're now 72% ready for the apocalypse at your off grid cabin. And you said, end quotes. I'm less afraid of zombies and more afraid of AI robots. Now I don't know if we're ever going to fully be able to protect ourselves from what's coming. Meanwhile, you spent 15 years quietly building a 26 acre compound 40 miles from the nearest store.

So here's the question.

Okay, take us inside the compound. If somebody, if someone watching right now wanted to start building their own version of what you've got, what's the gear, gadgets, survival kit and guns you'd let them buy, you'd tell them to buy first?

[Josh Duhamel]

Well, first thing you need is water, electricity and water. So you need a pump to pull the water out of the well. So you need some sort of electricity, whether it's solar or something, you know, whether it's gas powered or whatever. You need something to pull, you need water. That was the first thing I did. I have guns. Hopefully I never need them for anything other than hunting.

[Sean Ryan]

What kind of guns? What would you recommend somebody to get?

[Josh Duhamel]

I got some nines, I've got shotguns, I've got rifles, things that are all legal and registered and you know, anybody watching, please know that

[Sean Ryan]

it's all on

[Josh Duhamel]

the up and up. But I do, but that's one thing, you know, protection. Learn how to fish, learn how to hunt and have shelter. I mean, for me, I built the shelters that I needed. But it's not going to, you know, it's not like it's a fortified, you

[Sean Ryan]

know,

[Josh Duhamel]

military type anything I'm gonna, I'm actually really looking at, I have this old container, this old shipping container that we bought during COVID that right now just operates, just acts as a shed for all my supplies. Where there's plumbing or extra wood or just tools, things that sort of overflow the gold in there, eventually I want to bury that. Put a, put a, you know, and under, under a concrete, thick concrete sort of a shed above that. So you walk inside the shed, you go down in this thing, then you have this whole, on this whole bunker that I don't, I mean, listen, man, if, if they're coming, they're coming. I'm not sure if anything's going to stop it. I just hope that we wrap our arms around this thing and. And have some sort of guard rails so that they don't. Just. Because the way it's. It's moving at a pace so fast right now that we can't even grasp it. I know. I mean, I was at this. This event in Cannes last year called Cannes Line. It's a big branded. Branded marketing convention. All the biggest brands go and they talk the latest and greatest. And all they talked about was this AI and how a year from the day it was. Which is probably six months ago now, a year from that day, it's going to be 60 times more powerful than it was one year earlier.

[Sean Ryan]

60 times.

[Josh Duhamel]

So you can imagine, you take that 60 times, and then it just keeps growing exponentially. And I don't. I mean, I can't wrap my head around that. I don't know if anybody can. So I just. I just hope that we, you know, smart minds sort of come together and say, okay, hold on, let's just slow this thing down a little bit. If we even can at this point.

[Sean Ryan]

I don't know. It's likely.

I did. I got you one other gift, though.

So before we get too far from the guns, I got a buddy at Sig Sauer.

[Josh Duhamel]

Oh, God.

[Sean Ryan]

And I told him you were coming on. He's a huge Transformers fan. This is clear and safe, by the way. But. So that's the SIG Sauer365 Macro with a Sig Sauer suppressor. And Sig's new optic line holds 17 rounds plus one in the pipe.

[Josh Duhamel]

What, you're giving me this?

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah. You probably have to take that to the cabin, though. I don't think that's going to fly in la.

[Josh Duhamel]

This is the coolest gift ever. Thank you.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah, we'll break it in here after this if we've got time.

[Josh Duhamel]

That is amazing, dude. Thank you so much. What is it, a nine?

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah, it's a nine millimeter. Wow.

[Josh Duhamel]

Thank you.

[Sean Ryan]

You're welcome.

[Josh Duhamel]

Truly, thank you so much.

[Sean Ryan]

My pleasure, man.

[Josh Duhamel]

How do I get this back to Los Angeles?

[Sean Ryan]

We'll talk offline about it.

[Josh Duhamel]

How do I get this back to Fargo?

[Sean Ryan]

Ye.

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

I'll register it in Fargo.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

So that's amazing. Thanks.

[Sean Ryan]

You're welcome. You're welcome. Look good out there in the cabin.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

But I would love to go through this with you.

One thing. You mind if I critique you a little bit?

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

All right. One thing. So you're learning, right? You're learning how to do all this?

[Josh Duhamel]

Yep.

[Sean Ryan]

You need books, not downloaded programs. Not shit on Computers, you need textbooks on how to survive.

[Josh Duhamel]

Okay.

[Sean Ryan]

There's a really good series. This isn't a plug, but whatever. It's called Back to the Basics. And they have like a whole series hardback. And it teaches you everything from gardening to how to build a cabin, to how to. How to filter water, how to wash your clothes, how to make soap, how to do all of it. So that way, you know, you don't have to learn it all. Right. Now when shit hits the fan.

[Josh Duhamel]

Because you never know. I mean, what if everything goes down? Everything's dark. We don't have, you know, our phones or computers just, you know, look everything up.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

So that's the reason. Just.

[Sean Ryan]

Just have books. Yeah. You know, and then. And then it also. It's just like a piece.

It's not a piece.

I mean, you're going to use it, but you don't have to stress about knowing it all today because you have a Textbooks.

[Josh Duhamel]

Back to the Basics.

[Sean Ryan]

It teaches you how to raise chickens, how to do.

[Josh Duhamel]

Wow, that's cool.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah, it's a great series. So that would be something I would invest in. Okay. You know, and. Because then you can learn as you go. Seeds.

[Josh Duhamel]

Okay.

[Sean Ryan]

Have seeds.

[Josh Duhamel]

I do. I just bought a bunch of seeds. I just bought a ton of seeds.

[Sean Ryan]

Good.

[Josh Duhamel]

Because we're building a food plot. That's one of our projects this year. We're doing a big pumpkin patch. The deer are probably going to eat most of the pumpkins, but we're hoping in the fall we can take the kids up and just do a big pumpkin patch thing. And then I'm building. And I cleaned up the whole perimeter of this. We live on this peninsula. And I'm cleaning up all the wood, all the old logs and stuff, and I'm going to plant a million wildflowers. Not that those seeds are going to do us any good, but you're talking about, like, what, corn and what anything.

[Sean Ryan]

Corn, green beans. Just lots of vegetables, lots of fruit.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yep.

[Sean Ryan]

You know, but. And I just. I just store them in a bin. And every time I go to a tractor supply or wherever, I'm Just buy a couple, throw them in there.

[Josh Duhamel]

And where do you plant them all?

[Sean Ryan]

No, I just stockpiled.

[Josh Duhamel]

Oh, you stockpile it. Okay. Is there an expiration on those or.

[Sean Ryan]

No, I don't believe so.

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[Josh Duhamel]

Okay. Books, seed.

[Sean Ryan]

Books, seeds. The water stuff, do you have to have electric? Well, you live on a. That's on a lake, so. Yeah, not too worried about that.

[Josh Duhamel]

No, we've got, I mean we've got three wells up there which are really, really good water. So that I think is good enough.

[Sean Ryan]

Nice.

[Josh Duhamel]

The lake itself is all spring fed, so it's a really. It's one of the clearer lakes in Minnesota, which is awesome. I mean, I'm not going to drink it, but if I had to boil it, I guess we could.

[Sean Ryan]

Right.

Do you, do you have a.

Do you know what a Berkeley water filter is?

[Josh Duhamel]

No.

[Sean Ryan]

So it's a gravity filter. So you just. And it's like putting a bucket on top of a bucket and it takes out like 99.9% of. Okay, everything super easy here. I don't have it here, but I have one. I have a couple at the house. Okay. And yeah, so you could take literally just about any water, dump it in there and when it, when it's done doing its thing, it's really.

[Josh Duhamel]

And where do you buy that?

[Sean Ryan]

Oh, you could probably. You can get them on Amazon all over the place.

[Josh Duhamel]

Berkeley water filter. Okay.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

Another thing for you in la, I think Texas.

Another thing for your LA home when you're in LA is if worried about water, you can get a dehumidifier and a solar inverter which you can get on Amazon for like 500 bucks. And you just plug in the, the dehumidifier and it will just pull water right out of the air. Really? And it's filtered obviously, so.

[Josh Duhamel]

And how much water does that make? Enough to.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

Have you ever seen one?

[Josh Duhamel]

I don't think so.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah, you just run the dehumidifier.

Just pulls the humidity out of the air. And then there's a little tank inside the dehumidifier. I mean you can. These are like, I don't know, 100 bucks maybe at Home Depot. And yeah, you just hook it up to your solar inverter if you don't have power and it's, it's gonna, it's going to pull water Fast. Okay, so.

[Josh Duhamel]

And that's called the what again?

[Sean Ryan]

That's a dehumidifier.

[Josh Duhamel]

Just a dehumidifier? No, there's no. It's not called anything else. Okay. All right.

[Sean Ryan]

A lot of people put them in their basements.

[Josh Duhamel]

Okay. But good to know.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah. What do you do for communications? What do you have for that? Are you planning on communicating?

[Josh Duhamel]

Yes. Well, I bought the. I bought. I got. I saw them on Instagram and they work. They're amazing. They're. They're. They're walkies.

[Sean Ryan]

The satellite.

Push to talk. Yes, they do work.

[Josh Duhamel]

They work great.

[Sean Ryan]

I was looking at.

[Josh Duhamel]

We just started using them. I just got them working this last

[Sean Ryan]

time I was out there. Nice.

[Josh Duhamel]

They seem to work great. And apparently you can work. They work. They triangulate with different satellites and you can use them across the country. Is that even real? I've never tried that, but I know that they work really well on our property.

[Sean Ryan]

Right on, man.

[Josh Duhamel]

How about you? What do you have? Do you use any kind of.

[Sean Ryan]

I'm not set up with comms yet.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah. So I'll send you what I have. Seemed pretty good.

[Sean Ryan]

What about ammo?

[Josh Duhamel]

I could use more.

[Sean Ryan]

We call away. Couldn't we all? But

[Josh Duhamel]

I have. I have a fair amount, but, you know. Yeah, I think it's good to, you know, have enough.

[Sean Ryan]

What kind of guns do you have?

[Josh Duhamel]

I got a.223.

[Sean Ryan]

Nice.

[Josh Duhamel]

I got a 21s, Glock 21sF, Glock 17. What else? Shotguns mostly for hunting. Shotgun, bird guns, rifles, you know, for deer hunting. I got a crossbow out there.

[Sean Ryan]

You got a.22?

[Josh Duhamel]

I do have a.22.

[Sean Ryan]

Nice.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

That's the best one, man. She can take thousands of rounds with you at a moment's notice because they're so light.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yep. But what else do I got? I got this. What is this?

[Sean Ryan]

This is a 6 hour sig365.365.

[Josh Duhamel]

I just got this one just recently

[Sean Ryan]

on. Right on.

[Josh Duhamel]

Is there.

[Sean Ryan]

Is. Is the fam into the prepping.

[Josh Duhamel]

She thinks I'm a little bit crazy, but she also appreciates it, you know, because at first. And this, you know, bless her heart. My wife is amazing because she grew up living that lake life. Her family is very close to where mine is, so she gets it. She loves being out there. And we've made it comfortable now for the longest time. And she was with me during co and the whole thing, so it was like rough. Like, believe it or not, girls don't like having to go into an ouse. In the middle of winter in Minnesota. Walk outside in their snow boots to go to the bathroom. It doesn't go over well. It's not, it's not like a. You're not going to attract a lot of women with a, an ouse behind your thing. But she must really love me. But now it's much more comfortable. You know, we built, we built. Everything's got a bathroom, we got plumbing, it's like. And it's beautiful. And we've got this beautiful beach that we built. So it's, it's, it's, it's not super posh, but it's comfortable. You know, I don't ever want it to feel too luxurious. Luxurious. I like that. It still feels a little bit rugged. And we still gotta, you know, work to make and we're 40 minutes from anything, so we gotta come prepared.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

And so that part of it I love. I mean, every time I'm out there, it becomes similar to what you're talking about with the books. Back to the basics. It's like really just. I forget about all the stuff that I'm. When I'm in Los Angeles, it's all about work, achieve, you know, create. But out there it's about survival. It's about making sure that my family and everybody's come to visit us, has enough water, enough food, enough heat. That's really where my head goes. And it's, it's a really liberating thing to not worry about the things that you do, you know, in the real world and just sort of focus on what is actually important.

[Sean Ryan]

I feel like your mind rejuvenates.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

When you do stuff like that, get out of the, out of the loop. How do you, how do you stay present with your kids in LA when you're, when you're in the mix, when you're working,

[Josh Duhamel]

you know, I just show up for everything. If, if I, if I'm in town, I'm there. I take him to school, I take him to soccer practice, six in basketball, go to all the games, help them with their homework if they need it, you know, teach him, you know, how to shoot a jump shot. He's all into basketball right now, so he always wants to play me, learn. And so I'm always out there, you know, just whatever I can, you know, because I, because I've learned. Seeing him like we talked about as a 2 year old and now a 12 year old, like these moments matter and if I'm gone for months at a time, I need to make sure that I am with them. And they know that I'm with them 100% when I'm here. So they don't ever feel like. My biggest fear is looking back, going, you know, I, you know, I screwed my kids up because I wasn't around enough, you know, it's one of my biggest fears. I do not want to do that. I want to make sure that they know that I am doing everything I can to, you know, be there for them.

[Sean Ryan]

As a dad, does your wife keep you on the level? Oh, yeah, she does.

[Josh Duhamel]

Oh, yeah. Maybe too much so. No, she's great. She truly is the best thing that ever happened to me. She's like, she's a North Dakota girl, you know, very level headed, great mom. Loves my 12 year old who isn't even her kid.

[Sean Ryan]

How'd you meet her?

[Josh Duhamel]

She organizes the place. She keeps everything sort of running at the house. I met her in Los Angeles, believe it or not. She was living there. We'd communicated through, you know, Instagram, believe it or not. And a friend of ours, like, actually got us in contactual contact because he knew her and he knew that she was from North Dakota. She knew that he knew that I was from there, and he said, you guys should meet. And so, you know, we talked back and forth. Never any, you know, real thoughts of a relationship. Because she's younger than me, I didn't want to be that guy. Well, it turns out I am that guy because I met her, I brought her to my house, I invited her over for this barbecue, and I was like, damn, she's beautiful. She's such a beautiful girl. And then we started dating after that. And, you know, from there I kind of knew that this is the kind of girl that I want to be with because I dated quite a bit after the divorce. And I was like, oh, this is, I don't. Josh, back out in the wild is not a good thing. I lost. I, I, I, I'd forgotten how to, you know, you know, survive, you know, in the wild. You know, it's like, it's like, it's like a monkey that grows up in the zoo. You throw them out in the woods, out in the jungle, you know, feed himself. How long have you been married?

[Sean Ryan]

Six years.

[Josh Duhamel]

Okay, so, yeah, four years.

[Sean Ryan]

Is she an end of the worlder?

[Josh Duhamel]

End of the worlder?

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah, she is. She. Does she think the, the apocalypse. Not really. Around the corner?

[Josh Duhamel]

Not really. You know, she does, she lets me, you know, she likes the fact that we're, I'm handling it, but she's not that Concerned about it.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah. How about yours? Your wife, is she.

[Sean Ryan]

I would say it comes in waves. I mean, pretty tuned in with what's going on in the world just because of this. So when I come home and after a rough interview and come home and tell her all about what I've learned for the day, then she's like, I'm glad we have three years of food prepped in the basement, you know, but.

But

[Josh Duhamel]

do that too. Yeah, we've.

[Sean Ryan]

We've. I mean, ever since COVID man, it's been. I've always been concerned, you know, just from my previous life. But it's just how I think. I always think that the bottom's gonna fall out at a moment's notice.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

And so I'm a big contingency guy. But. But yeah, she. She's in on it. It goes in waves. But sometimes she thinks I'm crazy and then something will happen and she'll be like,

[Josh Duhamel]

well, that's the thing is you. It's kind of our job is to, you know, have a plan, protectors, you

[Sean Ryan]

know, so what it.

I mean, I want to go into a little more detail.

It can't just be AI robots. What do you think is going to happen? What are your biggest concerns right now?

[Josh Duhamel]

It just feels as if there's an instability. There's a lack of respect for law and order and people are really divided. And I could see some sort of event where this side. I don't want to call it a civil war, but I mean that it feels more and more like, you know, I don't feel like we're coming together. I feel like we're getting further and further apart. So it could turn into something like that. I'm hoping to God it doesn't. The cooler heads prevail and we figure out a way to find some common ground. Because right now it just feels too divided and people are too okay with hating the other end.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

You know, and there's a real hate problem in this country.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

And. And it's like. And I'm seeing. I'm seeing people behave in ways they never would have behaved. And I see it. I mean, I'm not going to give any examples, but well known people, I'm like, what the hell happened to you, dude? So blinded by your hate that you're just behaving in a way that's just like not you. And I see that all over. I have a. I have a cyber truck and I bought this thing well before any of this stuff was happening. Well before Any of the backlash against Elon was happening. And driving down the street in Los Angeles, I can't tell you how many

[Sean Ryan]

people like, you serious.

[Josh Duhamel]

Like, that is just not okay behavior. Like, when is it okay to just do that? Like, that's just blind hate, you know, for something that has nothing to do. I can't drive whatever car I want to. You know, I can, you know, but. But to have, like, that kind of behavior to me scares me because people are irrational right now. And I just want to make sure that, you know, I do what I can to keep the peace.

[Sean Ryan]

Damn.

[Josh Duhamel]

And to protect my family if I need to. Wow. Because it gets. It's getting. It's just getting too, like. Too okay with, like, behaving in ways that weren't okay even 10 years ago. It feels like it's becoming more and more of that.

[Sean Ryan]

Do you see that in North Dakota?

[Josh Duhamel]

No, not anyone. Not even close.

[Sean Ryan]

Damn. We don't. I don't see that around here.

[Josh Duhamel]

No.

[Sean Ryan]

Wow. Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

It's just completely irrational behavior, and it's because there's such hatred for the other side that people are just losing their minds a little.

[Sean Ryan]

I used to see it.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

Here. The farther we get from COVID the ease of the. The. The. It's easing up. But I will say, like, with everything that's been going on. I did. The vibe that I'm getting is that maybe we are finding some common ground with, like, the Epstein files and a lot of the stuff that's going on in the world. It seems like a lot of people are like, yeah, this isn't going how we thought it was going to go.

[Josh Duhamel]

And

[Sean Ryan]

I think. I think there is a growing base of the country that is just hating our government, our politicians. And I think that's a good thing because it's. At least it's something to, you know.

[Josh Duhamel]

Well, hopefully it'll.

[Sean Ryan]

It'll.

[Josh Duhamel]

It'll, you know, create some accountability.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

You know, because. And without getting too much into it, because I don't like to. I'm never going to preach to people about, well, how to believe or what they should believe or shame them for what they do believe, but, you know, there's definitely got to be some accountability because there's been some heinous behavior that shouldn't. Just. Shouldn't be okay. And like I said, I think it's just, like, things that weren't okay even five years ago are now seem to be somehow brushed under the rug. It's like, no, that's not okay.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

You know, I just want to make sure that we, you know, people are. Are maintaining some clarity around, like, what is, like, okay behavior and what's not.

[Sean Ryan]

Do you think this could all be biblical?

[Josh Duhamel]

Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I haven't thought about it like that.

[Sean Ryan]

You haven't?

[Josh Duhamel]

No.

[Sean Ryan]

You're a Christian, right?

[Josh Duhamel]

I am, but I guess I haven't made that connection. What do you mean?

[Sean Ryan]

Well, I mean, a lot of the things in the Bible that say that a lot of things are happening that the Bible says would happen, oh, gosh, right fucking now.

And that's a whole other conversation.

But that's, that's. That's kind of where I'm five landed.

[Josh Duhamel]

Oh, boy.

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[Josh Duhamel]

I don't know, like, what do you mean? Like, expand on that?

[Sean Ryan]

Well, I mean, you want me to expand on this? Well, I mean, right now there are three religions all going at it. Yeah. In the world right now. And that's supposed to happen. There are public figures in the world that mirror very closely to predictions. I don't know if they predict things that say that that's going to happen in the world. And it's, it's a lot of the political that has gone on in the country. Says that's going to happen, like gender ideology like this. But it's. And it seems to be speeding up, huh? Getting faster.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah. I don't see. I don't see any backing off from either side as far as what this is. What this is why I tend to not get overly involved in this stuff. Because what I've. One thing that I've learned from all this is that I'm not changing anybody's mind. People are. People are dug in.

[Sean Ryan]

Yep.

[Josh Duhamel]

All you can do is just sort of, you know, behave in a way that you think is right. Loving, not filled with hate. Part of the reason I went back to the church, honestly, I needed something to rise above this, the noise. Because I found myself starting to feel some of this same hatred against the people that I disagree with. And I was like, what am I doing? I was losing sleep over it. I was. I was, you know, really, really angry and started, you know, what am I doing? I need to. I need to get back and reconnect spiritually. And so I found. I started. Drop my son off. He goes to a Catholic church, Catholic school. I would just drop him off and go sit in church for 15 minutes, just pray or just meditate. Find my location somewhere. I'll find a church. Whether it's Catholic or Presbyterian or Lutheran, I don't care, as long as God lives there, I'll go. And I found that that's really sort of helped me sort of make sense of some of it and hopefully find some clarity in it all, because I just needed something because I didn't want to be that woman in the street flipping me off, you know, this. With this hatred in her eyes. I just like, I'm not going to be that person. I need to, like, figure out a way to, you know, find God again.

[Sean Ryan]

When did you start looking at that?

[Josh Duhamel]

I mean, I've never really. I mean, there I go through phases where I'll be really connected spiritually in times that I'm not. And I find that when I am connected spiritually, I'm a much better friend, father, husband, brother, just a better person all around. When I'm connected spiritually, when I'm not, you know, I can get a little squirrely. You know, I can. I can start to lose track of what's important, you know, and this business can really take you down some dark roads. And so I needed to stay. And I think that's what the Catholic religion did for me. It was really, you know, even though I don't agree with a lot of this stuff, I Still find that it really taught me right from wrong, gave me that backbone to be like, okay, this is it. Whenever I, whenever I, you know, go wayward one way or the other, it always kind of brought me back, you know, church, friends, family, you know, it's been, thank God I have a good group of friends, really good family. And was raised Catholic, it was raised Christian. Now I'm not as I don't. The dogma of it all doesn't mean as much to me. I don't care so much about like what religion says I have to do to what as long as it feels like it's, you know, about love, peace, harmony, things that keep my head clear of all the noise.

[Sean Ryan]

I grew up Catholic too.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah. Are you still Catholic?

[Sean Ryan]

Yes, I think so.

[Josh Duhamel]

Me too.

[Sean Ryan]

I.

But like you, I started kind of going around and I wanted, I mean,

I fell out of it. I was raised Catholic and then kind of fell out of it in the SEAL teams and recently, maybe the last two, three years, kind of refound Christ, you know, and so I started going to all these non denominational churches.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah, me too.

[Sean Ryan]

And I really like them.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah. And,

[Sean Ryan]

and you know, I think, I think I'll probably get blasted for saying

this, but I think one thing that

the Catholic religion lacks on is the teachings of Jesus because I don't grown up, I don't know about the teachings of Jesus or really who he was. And I realized that when I was going to these non denominational churches, I was like, these southern boys and girls over here are like quoting scripture, like bam, bam, bam. I can't do any of that either.

And so I really, I started paying

a lot of attention because I wanted to learn more about Christ and the life of Jesus and what it all means instead of just the, you know, typical Catholic mass. And then I started reading a lot about spiritual warfare and diabolic influence and stuff like that and that I don't think anybody in Christianity matches the Catholic Church when it comes to spiritual warfare. What it all means, how it works.

[Josh Duhamel]

And so what do you mean by that?

[Sean Ryan]

Spiritual warfare.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah. And how nobody can match the Catholic religion. What does that mean? Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[Sean Ryan]

I don't think it's a good thing

or a bad thing.

[Josh Duhamel]

I think that like, why is the Catholic religion better at spiritual warfare than the rest of them? What is spiritual welfare?

[Sean Ryan]

What is spiritual warfare? Spiritual man. How do you describe. I mean, basically spiritual warfare is, you know, the good and evil and the battle for your soul. Oh, your mind.

[Josh Duhamel]

Okay, now I Got for the world. I would agree with that then, because that's what's kept me from really going off the deep end, really is like taking that dark road down whatever path it was going to take. Spiritual warfare brought me back to, you know, whether you agree with the Catholic, you know, dogma and all the stuff around it. It does give you that sense of right and wrong.

[Sean Ryan]

It talks about. I had this guy, Father Ripper on, and he's like the. The exorcist in North America.

[Josh Duhamel]

Okay.

[Sean Ryan]

And he wrote this book called Diabolic Influence, which I've been picking up and digging into since I've interviewed him. And it talks about everything from. I mean, I don't know if you believe in possession and exorcisms and all that kind of stuff, but he kind of talks about how evil demons, demonic influence kind of seeps into your life and how it gets in. And a lot of the ways it gets in is by. By really. Just really bad that you're doing.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

And so it's. It's. If you get into it, it's pretty fascinating.

[Josh Duhamel]

I'm gonna read that book.

[Sean Ryan]

I'll send you the episode.

[Josh Duhamel]

Oh, I'll go. If I can find that episode.

[Sean Ryan]

You can't even buy the book.

[Josh Duhamel]

Oh, really?

[Sean Ryan]

That's the thing.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah, really.

[Sean Ryan]

There's.

He's got a couple. But he wrote it for. He wrote it for. Basically wrote it for the Vatican as a guide, you know, to how this is, how it's happening. And it's. Yeah, it's. It's. It's. It's fascinating, dude. Okay, the table.

[Josh Duhamel]

You have a copy of that?

[Sean Ryan]

I got a copy.

[Josh Duhamel]

Wow. I would be very interested in that because, yes, I do believe in that. I do believe that there are, you know, dark forces at play.

[Sean Ryan]

Me, too.

[Josh Duhamel]

And if you're not spiritually connected, you're really susceptible, and, you know, it's easy to become susceptible.

[Sean Ryan]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

You know, if you're not vigilant about, you know, staying spiritually connected.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

So what got you into the longevity stuff?

[Josh Duhamel]

Well, I was. I was taking testosterone replacement therapy for a few years before I ever started any of this. And it was keeping it a secret. I was doing some of the peptides, but, you know, never told anybody about it. But I was seeing how much it was actually helping me. And my friend Fabian Calvo brought me this idea to be part of this company. I was like, no, no, no, I can't tell people what I'm. You know, that's my dark little secret. But then I started Thinking about that, and I was like, of course I should do this. This is something I could easily shine a light on. That makes it okay because it's helped me so much. I mean, it's truly. Testosterone replacement has been huge for me. It's brought my levels back. I was low. So, you know, I'm able to keep muscle on, able to, you know, do things that I could do in my 30s that I'm now can do. And then we got into the peptides, started learning more and more about them and how much. How much they can actually help. And I think that that was. That was the reason why is because it gave me a chance to sort of share some of the stuff that I'd learned, even though I was keeping it quiet for so many years.

[Sean Ryan]

What kind of peptides?

[Josh Duhamel]

I do. I do. I'm sorry. Tessa Morlin. I do the Wolverine stack, which is H, HG, HG, HKGCU, TB500, and KPV, which is great for joints and skin and hair recovery, cell regeneration. What else do I do? I do NAD and MOT C. What does that do? NAD is. Is like NAD and moth C to help with the mitochondria. I'm not gonna probably. I'm probably gonna butcher this a little bit. I'm learning, but. But it's really good about energy, skin, staying young, looking, the mitochondria and the energy and stuff like that is. Is what it's supposed to be. Do you do any of this stuff?

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah, I do trt. I don't do peptides, but I'm getting ready to.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yeah.

[Sean Ryan]

And yeah, and then the NAD stuff, it works, man.

[Josh Duhamel]

It really does work. You know, and then there's the hrt. We just started doing it for women too, which is, you know, we. We started as just a men's company, and then I had so many females in my life saying, dude, you got to like, we need help too. And I, you know, we started doing research on that, and there's the hrt, which can literally prolong the youth of women. It can, it can. It can stem the effects of perimenopause and menopause and bring your levels of progesterone and estrogen back up to what they were so women don't have to go through the same things that they always have, you know, with. With menopause. So all this stuff is like.

[Sean Ryan]

Wait, are you saying it, like, skips menopause?

[Josh Duhamel]

Well, no, it just. It just delays the effects of it and, and reduces, like, the hot flashes and the, The. I don't know. I'm not. I have never gone through it because I'm not a female. But what I've. But what. From what I've heard, like, if you can. If you can regulate your hormones, that's part of the reason why this menopause is such a. For women is because their. Their hormones have fallen off. Like in men, it's testosterone. Women, it's estrogen and progesterone and testosterone as well. So you can really sort of regulate that stuff with this hormone therapy. And we have. Doc.

[Sean Ryan]

We have a whole.

[Josh Duhamel]

And what makes this company so great is that we have a whole team of doctors. So it's like a concierge service. So the FDA doesn't let you just go out and click, click, click, and have the stuff sent to you. They want you to be guided by a professional medical expert, somebody with, you know, the ability to actually walk you through this and create a plan. And so we have a whole team of doctors. So we're. I feel like we're doing it the right way. We're really able to help so many people. And this stuff works. I mean, it truly works. And so it's a really fun. It's been really, really fun, actually for me, learning more and more. More about it because I have a real natural curiosity for wellness and longevity and trying to stay as. As healthy as I can for as long as I can. Not just for my work, but for my kids. You know, I'm 53 years old and I have a baby on the way. I need to be as strong as I can for her as long as I can.

[Sean Ryan]

Congratulations on that.

[Josh Duhamel]

You're gonna have any more?

[Sean Ryan]

Probably not, no. Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

How old are you?

[Sean Ryan]

43.

[Josh Duhamel]

Oh, you're still a young man.

[Sean Ryan]

I would love to, but I don't know if it's gonna happen.

[Josh Duhamel]

You got two beautiful ones. That's all that matters.

[Sean Ryan]

Yep.

[Josh Duhamel]

So, yeah, that's, that's, that's, you know, that's the main reason is just because I wanted to be able to build something and help and for myself, personally, selfishly, I was trying to, you know, learn as much as I could to, you know, stay in the game for as long as I could. You know, I'm not going out without a fight, man. I'm gonna stay as young and strong and virile for as long as I can.

[Sean Ryan]

Right on. You guys gonna. You guys have any. You venturing into anything new? Are you gonna stick with the Peptides? Nad and.

[Josh Duhamel]

Well, I mean, there. Yes, right now. I mean, there's Just so much. There's stuff that, coming up on the horizon that's just like unbelievable. Some of these things that are not approved yet, but they're about to be. So for now, yes, hormone therapy for men and women, testosterone for men, HRT for women with whether it's estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, and then all these amazing peptides. Eventually maybe stem cells.

[Sean Ryan]

Nice.

[Josh Duhamel]

Which is another thing that's going to be coming. Incredibly beneficial. I mean the science behind that is incredible too. I mean, I'm just like beginning to learn about like how amazing that stuff can be be if done and, and you know, administered properly. And you know, thankfully with Dr. Lawrence and his team, we have just the best people in the world to help.

[Sean Ryan]

Right on.

Have you, have you looked at, I'm

just curious, have you looked at this plasma exchange stuff?

[Josh Duhamel]

I've heard a little bit about it.

[Sean Ryan]

You know what I'm talking about?

[Josh Duhamel]

You talking about when they, they spin the blood in the prp?

[Sean Ryan]

No, no, they. It's almost like blood filtration.

Have you seen any?

I don't know how much time you spend on social media or have you seen it? But right now like this trend, there's all these people, they hold up these bags.

[Josh Duhamel]

I saw Rogan did that, didn't he? Didn't Rogan have a big one?

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah, that's plasma exchange. So apparently it's like filtering all the spike proteins and all the shit out of your blood. Really like maybe heavy metals and stuff. And the darker the bags are, the more toxins that it's pulled out.

[Josh Duhamel]

I would hate to see what mine looks like.

[Sean Ryan]

I know, me too.

Me too.

[Josh Duhamel]

But it'd be like a greenish hue.

[Sean Ryan]

We've never seen that color before.

That's red. But yeah, I don't know.

That's something I've been looking into to do so especially with all the exposure of all the up places I've been throughout the world.

[Josh Duhamel]

Parasites is another one I want to look into. Yeah, I've heard a lot about this stuff. I'm just, again, I, I don't. I'm no expert in any of this stuff. I'm as curious as anybody else. But I do have a natural sort of curiosity to learn more. And parasites are one of them that my mother was. My mother's always kind of been on the forefront of this stuff. She was eating the egg whites in the early 80s. We were so embarrassed. Like, mom, you're asking to take your egg yolk. Like she's this girl, she's been always sort of and she just tell me about parasites and how you need to get checked for them and how you can get them sort of expelled from your body. I don't know. Is it a. Is it a fad? I don't know. Feels like it could be real.

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

With all the stuff we eat.

[Sean Ryan]

Oh, I'm sure it's real. Yeah, I'm sure it's real, but. Well, where do people find the company? Who's it for?

[Josh Duhamel]

What's that? Is it for everyone or it's for everybody? I mean, it's, it's. I mean, we're finding in our data that people are doing it younger and younger as a preemptive sort of. Of way to. To stay, to prevent, you know, some of these effects of aging that happen. So people in their 30s are starting to use this stuff. But, you know, we're meant for people my age, 40s, 50s, even 60s, or 70s. There's these things that can be really beneficial. Gatlin.com will, will set you up with one of our doctors who will put you through, you know, a few of the steps that it takes to get involved. This is, you know, this is a big deal for people to get into, and it can be scary for people. So we want them to be as comfortable as possible. Make sure they get their levels checked. Make sure you know where you're at. Just in general, you should know that. Anyway, I think just get your levels checked. You'll find that you're probably not optimizing as well as you could be. There's a lot of peptides you could be using. Your hormones can be leveled up to where they should be. So it's a. It's a pretty easy process. It's telemedicine, but it's like Telemedicine 2.0, because we make it real simple. Everything's delivered discreetly to your house, but you'll also have somebody there to help you. So you don't have some dude from the gym who compounds out of the back seat of his car. You know, stay away from the research and development stuff from China. Telling you all of our stuff is 100% compound in the USA. Compounded in the USA with, you know, through our own 503B pharmacies and API wholesalers. And we just. We know where this stuff is coming from, and it's all like, the best quality.

[Sean Ryan]

Right on. And she said, Gatlin.com.

[Josh Duhamel]

gatlin.com. Yeah. G A T L A N. Right on.

[Sean Ryan]

Right on.

[Josh Duhamel]

I got a hat for you too. By the way.

[Sean Ryan]

Oh, dude.

[Josh Duhamel]

Thank you.

[Sean Ryan]

Nice. Thank you.

[Josh Duhamel]

Yes, sir.

[Sean Ryan]

Well, I think we're wrapping up the interview, but I just want to say that. And you're, like, really grounded person.

[Josh Duhamel]

Seems like so are you. Sean. Thank you. But I already knew that about you.

[Sean Ryan]

How so?

[Josh Duhamel]

I just, you know people who know you. How do you watching the show?

[Sean Ryan]

How do you stay grounded?

[Josh Duhamel]

How do I stay grounded?

[Sean Ryan]

Yeah.

[Josh Duhamel]

Honestly, I've got a really, really awesome group of friends. There's like 20 of us that every day we're on a thread. And if. And if you didn't know we were best friends, you might think we're worst enemies, because there is no. There is no pulling any punches. These guys are ruthless, but also super loving. They don't let me get, you know, any higher than I need to be good. They love me and they, you know, they got my back, but they're not. They don't treat me any differently. And I think that's what big part of it. Great family, amazing wife. You know, North Dakota's been good.

[Sean Ryan]

Good for you, man. Got some good people around you. It's good to hear. Well, thanks for coming.

[Josh Duhamel]

Oh, man, thank you so much for having me. Foreign

[Sean Ryan]

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