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Jenna Warner
Welcome to Shiny New Clients, the marketing podcast that helps you attract shiny new clients to your business. We'll talk about social media, what makes people buy, how to go viral, and marketing psychology all in 20 minutes or less. Whether you're a coach, a stylist, or a wedding planner, if you've got a service based business to sell, this is the show you need to fill your calendar. I'm Jenna Warner, your new marketing coach and this is Shiny New new clients. Let's be nerds together about marketing psychology. Come on. I know we all want to be the cool girl, but if you look back at elementary school, the nerds are the rich ones now. So let's take a page out of their book. What a silly thing to say, just being a goof. But I am a total nerd for marketing psychology. And today we're going to talk about the psychological phenomenon of social proof and how you can use it to make more sales in your business. A lot of the marketing that I teach is based on psychology. I mean, all marketing is at the end of the day. But I remember this formative story that I heard about an experiment where a lineup was formed in a mall and the lineup went nowhere. But participants walking through the mall, they had no idea that it went nowhere. And because this line was long, folks just started getting in it. They figured because the line is there and people are enthusiastically in it, it must be going somewhere good. And sure enough, when this experiment happens, people just keep getting into that lineup. They don't know where it's going, but they're getting into it. Actually, recently I saw a video on TikTok where someone who worked at it was either a concert hall or an amusement park. The type of venue where there's six entrances all lined up beside each other with turnstiles like Disney World. And their whole job was to stand there and tell people, keep going, there's lots of open spots, there's spots to the right, there's spots to the left. Because as soon as a line would form, presumably people would start getting into that long line instead of going to the short lines to the right and the left. Ever been at the supermarket? I know I've made my point, but ever been to the supermarket and there's a till and there's no lineup and you go, it's probably closed because there's no one in it. That this is social proof and this is something that you can harness and should be harnessing in your marketing, in your social media marketing, on your website, all over the Internet, in person, in order to build trust faster and convert leads faster. Because people believe in you, because you're giving people evidence that you are who you say you are and that you're legit and that you can get them a result. Another super common example of this would be on a book cover. It might say, like Oprah's book club or 100,000 copies sold. All that is is saying, hey, this is really popular. Other people think this is good and therefore this. They literally call it a psychological phenomenon. You believe it is good too. Ever gone to an entrepreneur's website and right under the banner image, there's a list of the publications they've been featured on. Social Proof. Ever been watching a webinar? And the person hosting the webinar will do their sales pitch and be like, ooh, I see people are enrolling. Welcome Sarah from Chicago. Welcome, Janet from Ontario. The easiest way, the easy, breeziest way, and the way that people mess up the most. Do you know what it's going to be? It's using testimonials. I don't think anyone's going to argue us that testimonials are important, but the issue is so many business owners use them poorly. I actually got so frustrated with how many testimonials I was seeing online that were just totally useless that I created an entire mini course on how to get them, how to use them, and how to design them in a way that actually makes people pay attention. You know who the biggest culprit is? It's Canva. I love using Canva. But when you search testimonial in Canva, you get this square that says client love. And that's the biggest words on it is client love. And you know what happens when someone is scrolling Instagram or whatever and they see client love? They do not read the next words. They do not read it. They keep scrolling one because client love is the biggest words. It has the hierarchy of text. So, AKA your eyeballs go right to client love. And then your brain goes, oh, okay, this is something about this person. Nothing to do with me. It's talking about someone else. There's nothing I can gain from this. Number one rule of copy your leads. Want to gain something from what you are writing. So they're always looking at through a lens of what's in it for me, right? So they see client love, they scroll. They're not even reading it. You could say that you changed their life, that all of their problems are gone now and they're multi billionaires. Nobody's reading it. They need to be designed in a way that pulls your eye to the most important text. So even someone who is skimming it immediately gets the point, feels like it's about them. And we embed into their brain all of the value that you bring your clients, and all they had to do was glance. People need to feel safe in order to work with you, right? Especially if you're selling anything that is over a hundred dollars. You know, people need to feel safe and secure. They don't want to take a gamble. They need to trust you. And social proof builds that trust. I'm going to say probably faster than anything else. I'm sorry if you can hear the dog walking in the background. It was rainy today and so she didn't get to go on a W. Listen, I would go on a W in the rain. It's her that won't go on a W in the rain anyway. Posting social proof, posting testimonials builds that trust and in a way defies logic. You could try and logic someone into a sale. You can logic someone to buy with you all day long. But at the end of the day, there are things other than logic that consumers are using to make a buying decision. Like how much they trust you. Like what other people say about you, like, will it work for me? Prove it by showing someone like me and proving that it worked for them. One time I sent out a sales email, and in it there was a line about an acting coach that had joined my program, Magic marketing Machine, and had a big, beautiful result from it. And I said, you know, so and so, who's an acting coach who had this result? And I can't. I can't remember. This was years ago and someone joined and it's always a pleasure. And it's so valuable. Valuable when someone tells you exactly why they signed up to work with you. And an acting coach came to me and said, when you talked about that other acting coach joining, I was like, great, now I know this will work for me. Now I work with service providers. If you're a coach, if you run a group program, if you're a therapist, if you're a web designer, these are all examples of services. And these are the type of people that I work with to help you grow on Instagram and get way more clients from your content. Now, that just spoke to the logic part of your brain, right? The next question your brain is asking is, okay, we'll prove it. Okay, well, how? Okay, but I'm different. How will this work for me? Right? Like, that's what you're thinking this is how our brains work. But what if I told you one of my clients in Magic Marketing Machine, I helped her just have a $30,000 launch? What if I told you I just helped a fitness instructor get the most reach she has ever gotten before thanks to what I teach in the program? What if I told you I just helped a parenting coach have a $40,000 month? What if I told you I helped an email marketer sell five spots in a workshop from just a couple of stories and a post on Instagram? Those things are all true, by the way. But don't those things make you trust me more? Plus when I position them as stories, it's more interesting than saying like one of my clients reach went up 555%. Also true, but very logic based. Are you thinking right now, Jenna? Was this just an excuse for you to tell us like all the crazy results your clients have gotten? You know what? Maybe it was. But it's also just really good examples. Let me give you another tip though. Once you start collecting testimonials, keep them all together. I link people to an airtable base so you can like sort store them and sort them by topic and that. But even if they're just in a Google Drive. And there's a couple reasons for that. One, because you are going to be so freaking successful that you will have hundreds of positive testimonials and you're going to wish that you organized them. But two, because it can be your pump up folder, you know, it can be the place that you look when you're feeling down on yourself and you go, you know what, I'm amazing. And then just read through all of the positive stuff that people have said about you and said to you. Even if it's just like comments on Instagram stuff maybe you're not ever gonna post about, but you just want to lock in and remind yourself that you're amazing. Can be really helpful, especially, especially when you go to write a sales post because you gotta put your head in the game when you go to write sales content. The more jazzed you are about what you're talking about, the more jazzed it's gonna sound when you write it. If you want any of the products that I not so casually plugged this episode. The enrollment for Magic Marketing Machine is open. That is my signature offer to help service based business owners grow on Instagram. Get clients from it and manage your account in 15 minutes a day. And if you want testimonials that sell to help you get better testimonials from people using proven strategies that help you get testimonials that don't stink. Because a lot of times when people are left to their own devices, your clients are going to send you testimonials that are borderline unusable. So I'll show you how to get better ones from them, keep them super organized, design them in a way that looks good and people actually pay attention to. And there's even a sales post template template included in that as a bonus. And I'll link all of this in the show notes and I'll see you in the next episode.
Podcast Title: Shiny New Clients!
Host: Jenna Harding (Warriner)
Episode: Social Proof and How to Convert Leads Faster
Release Date: March 24, 2025
In this insightful episode of Shiny New Clients!, host Jenna Harding delves deep into the concept of social proof and its pivotal role in accelerating lead conversion for service-based businesses. Packed with practical examples, psychological insights, and actionable strategies, Jenna elucidates how leveraging social proof can significantly enhance trust and drive sales.
Jenna opens the discussion by defining social proof as a psychological phenomenon where people mimic the actions of others to reflect correct behavior in a given situation. She underscores its ubiquity in everyday scenarios and its profound impact on consumer behavior.
Jenna (00:00): "Social proof builds trust and in a way defies logic... people believe in you because you're giving them evidence that you are who you say you are."
To illustrate the power of social proof, Jenna shares several relatable examples:
Mall Line Experiment: Jenna recounts an experiment where a seemingly long, but purposeless, lineup in a mall attracted more people simply because they presumed it led to something desirable.
Venue Turnstiles: Referencing a TikTok video, she describes how employees at concert halls or amusement parks encourage patrons to join longer lines, reinforcing the perception of popularity and desirability.
Supermarket Tills: Jenna points out that an empty checkout line at a supermarket likely indicates the store's closure, whereas a bustling till suggests active business and reliability.
These examples highlight how the mere presence of others influences individual decisions, often subconsciously.
Transitioning to marketing, Jenna emphasizes that social proof is indispensable for building trust and converting leads. She explains that showcasing evidence of legitimacy and effectiveness can expedite the trust-building process, making potential clients more inclined to engage.
Jenna (04:30): "Social proof can harness trust faster and convert leads faster because people believe in you by giving them evidence that you are legit."
Jenna delves into the strategic use of testimonials, a common form of social proof. She critiques the prevalent misuse of testimonials, particularly those designed with generic tools like Canva, which often fail to resonate with the audience.
Jenna (09:15): "When you search testimonial in Canva, you get this square that says client love. The biggest words are client love, and people just scroll past because it doesn't speak directly to them."
She highlights the importance of designing testimonials that prioritize the message most relevant to potential clients. Testimonials should clearly convey how the service benefits the viewer, addressing the fundamental question of "What's in it for me?"
Jenna offers a comprehensive guide on gathering and leveraging effective testimonials:
Design for Impact: Ensure that the design directs attention to the most critical information, making it immediately clear how the testimonial relates to the prospective client's needs.
Organize Testimonials: Maintain an organized repository of testimonials, preferably in a structured database like Airtable or Google Drive. This not only facilitates easy access but also serves as a motivational tool for the business owner.
Highlight Relevant Success Stories: Use testimonials that showcase diverse success stories, demonstrating the service's versatility and effectiveness across different client profiles.
Jenna (19:45): "Once you start collecting testimonials, keep them all together... It can be the place that you look when you're feeling down on yourself and remind yourself that you're amazing."
Jenna discusses various avenues where social proof can be effectively integrated:
Websites: Display features such as publication appearances, client logos, and success metrics prominently on the homepage to establish credibility.
Webinars and Sales Pitches: Incorporate live testimonials and real-time enrollment shoutouts to create a sense of community and urgency.
Social Media: Share client success stories and reviews across platforms like Instagram to reach a broader audience and reinforce trust.
To substantiate her points, Jenna shares multiple client success stories achieved through implementing robust social proof strategies:
Magic Marketing Machine Launch: Assisted a client in achieving a $30,000 launch.
Fitness Instructor Reach Expansion: Enabled a fitness instructor to attain unprecedented reach on Instagram.
Parenting Coach Revenue Boost: Helped a parenting coach generate a $40,000 month.
Email Marketer Workshop Sales: Facilitated the sale of five workshop spots through strategic Instagram posts and stories.
Jenna (25:20): "One of my clients in Magic Marketing Machine, I helped her just have a $30,000 launch... These things are all true, by the way."
These examples underscore the tangible benefits of effectively leveraging social proof in various marketing contexts.
Jenna introduces her mini-course dedicated to mastering testimonials, addressing common pitfalls and teaching methods to create compelling, attention-grabbing testimonials. She critiques the simplistic designs often generated by tools like Canva and provides alternatives for more impactful testimonial presentations.
To maximize the utility of collected testimonials, Jenna recommends:
Centralized Storage: Use platforms like Airtable or Google Drive to organize testimonials systematically.
Categorization: Sort testimonials by topic or client type to facilitate easy retrieval and usage in relevant marketing materials.
Motivational Use: Keep organized testimonials accessible as a personal confidence booster and a source of inspiration when creating new sales content.
In conclusion, Jenna reiterates the critical role of social proof in modern marketing. She encourages listeners to implement the strategies discussed to build trust, enhance credibility, and accelerate lead conversion.
Jenna (34:50): "Social proof builds trust faster than anything else... Consumers are using trust and what others say about you to make buying decisions."
Jenna also promotes her signature offer, Magic Marketing Machine, a program designed to help service-based business owners grow their Instagram presence and secure more clients efficiently. Additionally, she offers resources for creating effective testimonials, including a sales post template, available in the show notes.
Jenna (39:10): "If you want testimonials that sell, link is in the show notes. I'll see you in the next episode."
This episode of Shiny New Clients! serves as a comprehensive guide to understanding and leveraging social proof in marketing. Jenna Harding adeptly combines psychological principles with practical marketing strategies, providing listeners with the tools necessary to enhance trust, engage potential clients, and drive sales through effective use of social proof.