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Emily Kwong
You're listening to shortwave from NPR. What's up, Tudorinos?
Burleigh McCoy
It's Emily Kwong and Burleigh McCoy. Today. I hear you recently embarked on some late night reporting in the woods under the COVID of darkness.
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Burleigh McCoy
So is this your way of telling us you're a spy?
Emily Kwong
Would a spy reveal that?
Burleigh McCoy
Okay, my thoughts exactly. But seriously, what were you doing out there?
Emily Kwong
Well, Burleigh, I was on a night.
Serenela Linares
Hike, so in about two minutes, we'll get started. Meanwhile, enjoy yourself.
Emily Kwong
It was a tromp through Patuxent River State park in Maryland, hosted by a group of naturalists, people trained in gathering observations and educating people about the environment. Now, naturalists lead hikes all over the world, but not all of them, like this crew, hand out homemade banana bread. That was pretty cool. And UV lights provided by our leader.
Serenela Linares
Hi, my name is Serenela Linares. I'm the facility director at Mount Rainier Nature center and the program chair of the Mycological association of Washington, D.C. okay.
Burleigh McCoy
So Serenella is a mushroom expert.
Emily Kwong
Yeah, along with other fungi. She's been leading nature walks since 2013. And tonight, I really wanted to see the forest through her eyes, to know what flaps and flutters and fluoresces when the sun goes down in winter.
Serenela Linares
It is a night for nature magic, bioluminescence, fluorescence of fungi and lichens of insects that fly in the night and are attracted to the bait that we have set up.
Emily Kwong
So I should really, like, try to listen very closely to everything we will have. And that's what I want to do with you today, Burley. I want to just get real quiet and listen to the sounds of a winter's night when everything is dead or dormant. Or is it okay?
Burleigh McCoy
Today on the show, we are taking you on a night hike through the Patuxent river watershed in search of owls and salamanders and maybe, if we're lucky, a bioluminescent mushroom. You're listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from npr.
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Burleigh McCoy
All right, Emily, so you went on this night hike last month, set the scene for us. What does this park look like?
Emily Kwong
No idea. Because it was so dark and we. We don't have half of these critters. Night vision.
Burleigh McCoy
Okay, this makes sense.
Emily Kwong
But I know that the park, because I looked at a map, sits along the Patuxent river, which flows into Maryland's Chesapeake Bay. We were bundled in our winter coats, and the first stop along our night hike was a patch of lichen growing along a tree just off the parking lot.
Burleigh McCoy
Remind me, what are lichen exactly?
Emily Kwong
Yeah, lichen is that stuff that grows on trees. It kind of looks like seaweed, but it's actually a hybrid colony of fungi and algae in a symbiotic relationship. To show us, Serinella dramatically shines her flashlight up the tree trunk.
Serenela Linares
Nothing out of the ordinary, right? That blue gray lichen color. Everything looks pretty much the same until.
Emily Kwong
Serinella then flips on her UV light and the patch of green lichen totally changes.
Serenela Linares
Wanna tell us more about these fans?
Emily Kwong
And it suddenly glowed neon yellow. The lichen, one particular part of it was fluorescing, so absorbing the ultraviolet light from the flashlight and emitting visible light.
Burleigh McCoy
Oh, and I'm just looking at the pictures you just sent me, and this is like neon. Neon yellow.
Emily Kwong
Yeah, it was like the Las Vegas Strip. Natalie Howe, an ecologist with the U.S. department of Agriculture, steps forward and shoves her face into the tree bark.
Natalie Howe
If you come up real close, you can sort of tell that there's a lot of diversity there because there's some that are a little yellower or some that are a little grayer. There's a lot of green.
Burleigh McCoy
She sounds so excited.
Emily Kwong
So we take a UV light and get up close to that tree to look, and pretty soon, Saranella shouts, oh, Natalie.
Natalie Howe
Pinkish1. What did you find? Oh, orange. That's true. We barely ever see that orange one.
Burleigh McCoy
They just sound so, so excited. This sounds like my kind of group. Okay, so, like, what do the different colors mean?
Emily Kwong
Yeah. Okay, so the yellow lichen is called Pixene subsenaria and the orange lichen is Pixene seridiata. And both have chemicals in their tissues which allow them to fluoresce.
Burleigh McCoy
Okay, but, like, why?
Emily Kwong
Natalie explained to me that lichen fluoresce as a protective response against ultraviolet light damage from the sun.
Burleigh McCoy
Oh, my gosh. I wish we could do this. Okay, that's so cool. So, like, these lichens are carrying their own sunscreen?
Emily Kwong
Yep. So the group starts to branch out at this point away from the lichen depot, drifting into pockets of the forest, swinging their UV lights and headlamps up trees. Everyone's kind of getting into it now, and they're breaking up books to try to identify what they see. And suddenly it just feels weird to.
Burleigh McCoy
Step on anything because, like, everything is alive.
Emily Kwong
Yeah. Except where there's trash. Oh.
Natalie Howe
Once I actually got too excited about finding, like, a soggy piece of toilet paper because it reflected weirdly.
Burleigh McCoy
Okay, so what did you see next on your hike?
Emily Kwong
Well, there was this gigantic piece of fabric that one of the naturalists had hung up and lit with mercury vapor lamps. So those are lamps that emit this very broad spectrum of light and attracted all these different kinds of moths just, like, clinging to the fabric.
Matt Felperin
Come on over here. If anyone wants to get a quick photo of the fall canker worm, I.
Burleigh McCoy
Want to see a photo of the fall canker worm.
Emily Kwong
Yeah. This moth, along with all moths, use the moon and stars to navigate. So lamps are a good way to draw them out of the shadows. Then Matt Felperin, a roving naturalist with Nova Parks, the regional park system of Northern Virginia, makes an announcement that he will be, quote, doing owl calls intermittently.
Burleigh McCoy
Okay.
Matt Felperin
They're very defensive of their territory, so they will frequently come and check out who the potential rival is in their territory.
Emily Kwong
So what's the best way to call Bard owl?
Matt Felperin
There's a mnemonic for it. And the mnemonic would be, who cooks for you? Who cooks for you all?
Emily Kwong
Matt learned how to do this while prowling for owls during the Great American Campout.
Burleigh McCoy
What is that?
Emily Kwong
It's this nationwide campaign that happens every June to get people outdoors in a safe way.
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Emily Kwong
And this was a really common theme among the naturalists. They're all involved with some kind of community work. Anna Kahanui is the co founder of the D.C. based nonprofit Capital Nature. I found her crouched over a log Inches from the dirt, taking a picture with her iPhone. Oh, my gosh.
Burleigh McCoy
What is that?
Anna Kahanui
It's a snow fungus. So it's a jelly fungus.
Emily Kwong
That's.
Serenela Linares
Yeah.
Anna Kahanui
So I want to get a picture.
Emily Kwong
Of it when it's like that.
Burleigh McCoy
Fungi that are jellied.
Emily Kwong
Yeah.
Anna Kahanui
Let me show you a better picture of it.
Emily Kwong
It looks like slime. So you got Matt making alcohols in the background. Anna face in the dirt, showing me her inaturalist.
Burleigh McCoy
Okay, so Inaturalist is the app that helps you ID things in the natural world. I use it all the time for things like flowers and trees and one time a spider in my garden.
Emily Kwong
Yeah, Anna's like a prolific user of inaturalist. Whoa. You have 5,107.
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Anna Kahanui
I do make a lot of observations.
Burleigh McCoy
5,100.
Emily Kwong
That's a lot. Yeah, I have, I don't know, a few dozen. But I have realized that learning to identify and name and even just notice the life forms around me is one of the best ways to deepen your relationship to land and to nature. Anna says you could also look up a bird count or some other bio blitz in your area. That's what they call, like, these nature searches. One of the biggest ones is the City nature Challenge.
Burleigh McCoy
Oh, what's that?
Emily Kwong
It's basically a four day sprint around Earth Day. Cities who enroll are tasked with identifying as many of a certain type of species as possible.
Anna Kahanui
It's multi generational. So because, you know, mom and dad and grandma and grandpa and the kids can go out and the kids are low to the ground. So.
Burleigh McCoy
So did that owl ever show up?
Emily Kwong
Never showed. Gave us the cold shoulder. But at this point in the hike, owl cameo didn't really matter. I mean, over the course of the night, just watching these grown adults act more and more like kids was so amazing. Like sticking their fingers in dirt, rolling over wet logs, jumping and shrieking when a tiny crustacean like an isopod appears.
Burleigh McCoy
I love it.
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Oh, no.
Emily Kwong
It's like a little shrimp or a tiny fungi shaped like a fan with an incredible secret Gizophilum commune.
Serenela Linares
Doesn't have two sexes. Doesn't have four sexes. Give me a number of how many sexes do you think?
Emily Kwong
6? 8?
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Burleigh McCoy
27.
Emily Kwong
Go so much higher than you think is possible for how many sexes an organism can have.
Burleigh McCoy
I mean, 27 was the highest, you know, like what, hundreds?
Emily Kwong
20,000. This fungi has 20,000 different sexes.
Burleigh McCoy
Amazing.
Serenela Linares
It's very successful, very abundant, and found almost everywhere. Take a look.
Emily Kwong
And then there were life forms that were moving quite actively like, we got salamander.
Anna Kahanui
Yep.
Emily Kwong
So I got low, you know, army crawling and peering through everyone's legs, hovering beneath this like, chaotic cloud of science facts. Yeah, it's like orange and black and slithering. Looks kind of like a snake.
Matt Felperin
We have an eastern red back salamander.
Serenela Linares
Yeah.
Anna Kahanui
Copperish.
Emily Kwong
One of the most interesting things I picked up was the fact that redback salamanders will bury themselves sometimes a foot deep in winter to basically be surrounded by decaying roots to stay warm and wet. Because the salamanders need the moisture to absorb oxygen through their skin. Yeah, and there's so many adaptations for winter when you really start to look for them. Sometimes that looks like a change of location. Sometimes that looks like energy conservation.
Burleigh McCoy
Okay, give me an example.
Emily Kwong
Yeah, this was towards the end of the hike. I hear Serinella calling my name in the dark. Oh, all people look the same.
Serenela Linares
We don't overlook the stick.
Natalie Howe
The stick with the mushroom.
Serenela Linares
With the mushroom.
Burleigh McCoy
Wait, wait, wait. Is this the bioluminescent mushroom?
Emily Kwong
That's right. That's right. This is the one Saranella spent the whole hike searching for. It is a honey mushroom. Our final observation of the night. So in the summertime, honey mushrooms produce a green light known as fox fire. They glow in the dark all on their own, no flashlight required. And we call this phenomenon bioluminescence.
Burleigh McCoy
I am really sad to say I've never seen bioluminescence in nature, but honestly, I usually imagine it's like a frog or some kind of plankton doing the bioluminescing, not a mushroom.
Emily Kwong
Yeah, I had no idea that mushrooms bioluminesce either. Scientists don't entirely know why, but as Serinella explained to me and my husband Duncan, it might be the fungi's way of attracting nocturnal creatures. You know, the glow is basically an advertisement.
Serenela Linares
Come get me, I'm delicious. And by the way, take my kids away. So how do you advertise your burger king at 2am you need a neon.
Emily Kwong
Sign that people walking by say, oh, yummy, hungry animals. So birds, rodents and insects eat the mushrooms and poop it out later, which may help with some or dispersal. But that's not what I saw, Burley. No, no, it was winter. And apparently the honey mushrooms will shut down all bioluminescent business. They will not glow at night in wintertime summer.
Burleigh McCoy
You did not see the green glow.
Emily Kwong
Nope, Just a stick of happy brown caps that were not bioluminescing at all. Which I think provides a nice life lesson for wintertime, you know, about not spending energy when you don't have to.
Burleigh McCoy
Honestly, Emily, this hike is reminding me that that's what winter is all about, right? At least according to nature. Slow down, rest, conserve your energy, and.
Emily Kwong
You can consider this hike your permission slip.
Burleigh McCoy
Thank you so much for this night walk.
Emily Kwong
Any time, Burleigh. To join the City Nature Challenge or the Great American Campout, check out the links on our website.
Burleigh McCoy
Make sure you never miss a new episode by following us on the podcasting platform you're listening from. And if you have a science question, send us an email@shortwavepr.org this episode was produced by Jessica Young and Hannah Chin and edited by our showrunner, Rebecca Ramirez. Tyler Jones Check the facts. Jimmy Keeley was the audio engineer, Beth Donovan is our senior director and Colin Campbell is our senior vice president of podcasting strategy.
Emily Kwong
I'm Emily Kwong.
Burleigh McCoy
And I'm Burleigh McCoy. Thanks for listening to Short Wave from NPR.
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Original air date: January 19, 2026
Hosts: Emily Kwong & Burleigh McCoy
Guests/Naturalists: Serenela Linares, Natalie Howe, Matt Felperin, Anna Kahanui
Setting: Patuxent River State Park, Maryland
Episode Length: ~15 minutes
In this engaging episode, Emily Kwong takes listeners on a nocturnal adventure through Patuxent River State Park, Maryland. Alongside a group of enthusiastic naturalists, the hosts explore how nature thrives—even in the dead of winter—by searching for glowing lichens, elusive owls, mysterious fungi, and animated salamanders. The episode blends scientific curiosity, wonder, and humor, revealing how much life persists through winter’s chill and offering insight into both the creatures themselves and the passionate people who observe them.
The episode’s tone is one of genuine curiosity, playful wonder, and encouragement for listeners to venture out and notice the natural world—even (especially) in winter. It’s a celebration of both scientific exploration and the sense of childlike awe that comes with paying attention to one’s environment.
For more on joining the City Nature Challenge or the Great American Campout, see the show links on NPR's website.