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Emily Kwong
You're listening to Short Wave from NPR. Hey, Short Waivers. Emily Kwong here with NPR's mental health correspondent Ritu Chatterjee. Hi, Ritu.
Ritu Chatterjee
Hi, Emily. It's good to see you.
Emily Kwong
And we are looking directly at each other.
Ritu Chatterjee
Exactly.
Emily Kwong
We're in person at NPR headquarters. But sometimes you and I do work from home. A lot of people do.
Ritu Chatterjee
A lot of people do. Remote work has quadrupled since the pandemic, to be precise. And I've been speaking with one researcher who's been looking at this, and her name is Natalia Emanuel. She's an economist at the Federal Reserve bank in New York.
Natalia Emanuel
Studies have found that workers are willing to give up 4 to 10% of their earnings in order to have the ability to work remotely.
Emily Kwong
That sounds like a lot, but I'm not surprised because of the flexibility.
Ritu Chatterjee
Oh, the flexibility is huge. And I can tell you that as a parent of two little kids, I love the flexibility remote work gives me because I can pick up and drop off my kids without having to worry about getting to work on time. And the fact that I can work from home even when one of the kids is home sick, you know, makes a big deal. And there's also data showing that working from home is increases productivity and job satisfaction. But we don't yet understand how remote work is affecting various aspects of the workplace and even ourselves, our own sense of well being. Oh, yeah. And I spoke with Nicholas Epley. He's a professor of behavioral science at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, and he says he gets asked about the effects of remote work all the time.
Nicholas Epley
Everybody wants to know how is that changing things? And usually the answer is we can't really tell.
Ritu Chatterjee
But a recent study published in the journal Science does give us some insight into the effects of remote work on our sense of well being. Unfortunately, it suggests that despite all the advantages of remote work, you know, the flexibility, the productivity, working from home isn't creating a happier workforce. In fact, it's making workers more isolated and unhappy.
Emily Kwong
Today on the show, some new science to answer a very difficult question. What does working from home do to our health and our sense of well being? I'm Emily Kwong. I'm Ritu Chatterjee, and you're listening to Short Wave from npr.
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conditions apply okay, so Ritu, just to be clear, this is only one study we're talking about today. I know it was in a very prestigious journal. Science is like one of the big ones.
Ritu Chatterjee
Exactly.
Emily Kwong
Yes.
Ritu Chatterjee
We are talking about one recent study which was interestingly titled Home Alone.
Emily Kwong
I wonder what Macaulay Culkin thinks about this.
Ritu Chatterjee
Anyway, it looked at a ton of data on US Workers to explore whether any link between remote work and workers mental health.
Emily Kwong
All right, let's dig into the paper. How did researchers even go about answering this question?
Ritu Chatterjee
So the researchers used data from five large surveys of American workers that together gave them a ton of information about a whole lot of things about the kinds of jobs people are in, workers daily lives, their overall health and well being. And the researchers grouped workers into two groups based on the kind of jobs they are in. One group was in what they called remotable jobs such as software engineering, marketing. You know, maybe journalism was in there as well. The second group was in what they call non remotable jobs like surgery and mechanical engineering.
Emily Kwong
Okay, so the study defined non remotable jobs as those that require someone to go someplace to work. Like my cousin who makes helicopter parts. He's working out a a big piece of equipment every day.
Ritu Chatterjee
Exactly.
Emily Kwong
So what did they find?
Ritu Chatterjee
What they found firstly was that those in remote jobs were a lot more socially isolated than those going to work in person. Here's study author Natalia Emanuel Again, they've
Natalia Emanuel
seen a 58% increase in hours alone and then a 72% increase in the chance of spending a whole day with just no human contact. Not even like a wave to a barista, not, you know, somebody also checking for ripeness of the avocados at the grocery store. Just no human contact at all.
Ritu Chatterjee
And you know, those who live alone had the highest rise in social isolation. They had an 83% increase in chances of spending their days with zero social contact.
Natalia Emanuel
Wow.
Ritu Chatterjee
Natalia and her colleagues also found that workers in remotable jobs have seen an increase in symptoms of mental distress or anxiety and depression over the past few years.
Natalia Emanuel
This shows up in self reports, in seeing a mental health care professional in using mental health prescription medications. And so really across the board, we're seeing disproportionate shift toward greater mental distress among people in remotable occupations relative to people in non remotable occupations.
Emily Kwong
That's interesting, but wouldn't also working from home give you more flexibility to see a therapist or get mental health care? How do we know that the rise in mental health care visits and prescriptions isn't just because of that?
Ritu Chatterjee
That's a great question, Emily. By that logic, you should also see a rise in people visiting their doctors too, right?
Emily Kwong
Oh, fair.
Ritu Chatterjee
And that's something that the authors did look into because they wanted to make sure that this wasn't sort of a false signal that they were getting. And they found that there was no increase in visits to physical health care providers.
Emily Kwong
That is fascinating. How do we know these things are causally linked, that one leads to another?
Ritu Chatterjee
This study does not prove causation. What do does is show a very strong link. Now, there have been other studies looking into this connection between work location and mental health. One study found that workers who exclusively work remotely have a slightly higher risk of anxiety compared to those who work in a hybrid setting. And another study found that remote workers who have more frequent phone calls with friends, family, caregivers, were at a lower risk of anxiety and depression than remote workers who have such calls less than one a week.
Emily Kwong
Call your grandma, everybody.
Ritu Chatterjee
Exactly. Or your neighbor. So you're getting the signal from other studies too, that the social isolation aspect of working remotely is having an impact on people's mental health. And by the way, there's just a wealth of research that show us that social isolation, loneliness is bad for our mental health and in the long run, our physical health too. You know, I talked about this with Nick Epley, who we heard from earlier. He wasn't involved in the new study, but has spent years researching social connection and health.
Nicholas Epley
Being alone compromise your Immune system functioning, your cardiovascular system functioning, and it's correlated with mortality. Even people who live alone die sooner.
Ritu Chatterjee
And as I've reported before, one of the biggest predictors of health and well being is the quality and even the variety of our social relationships. Social connections don't just boost our mood, they also improve our overall health.
Emily Kwong
Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. We are such a social species, we've evolved to connect with each other.
Ritu Chatterjee
Absolutely. Yeah.
Emily Kwong
So if social connections are this central to our well being, why do people, if given the choice? I don't want to speak for all people, but it does seem like there's such an appetite to work from home.
Ritu Chatterjee
Yeah, there is.
Emily Kwong
So what's that about if it's also kind of hurting people?
Ritu Chatterjee
Well, it's not either or. Right. There are genuine advantages to working remotely and it's easy for people to know and prioritize those advantages. And we talked about some of this earlier.
Gillian Sandstrom
Right.
Natalia Emanuel
People are very attuned to these sort of short run, very salient things like not having to do their commute.
Ritu Chatterjee
However, as Natalia and Nick pointed out to me, it's much harder for people to understand and, and estimate the longer term impacts of missed social connections from not going into work.
Nicholas Epley
It's a slow motion effect in many ways. Right. It feels a little better in the moment, but it's hard to anticipate. A month, a year, two years from now, friends you'll have that you don't have now. Conversations you've had that are meaningful that you haven't had now.
Emily Kwong
This sounds exactly like how people talk about exercise. They don't have time, the equipment, it's hot, I'm out of shape. But over time, long term impacts shows muscle loss, bone density is being impacted. I mean, the longer term calculation can be hard to prioritize in the moment. Yeah, when you're just tired and you don't feel like calling up somebody, it's
Ritu Chatterjee
very human, you know, even that reaction. And Emily, I have to mention one other reason why people play down the value of their social interactions. It's because our brains lie to us when it comes to judging ourselves in social situations. That's what psychologist Gillian Sandstrom told me.
Gillian Sandstrom
This phenomenon where two people who meet for the first time afterwards tend to think that they liked the person they talked to, but the person they talked to didn't really like them.
Ritu Chatterjee
Jillian's at the University of Sussex and she studies how talking to strangers and acquaintances affects our mood.
Gillian Sandstrom
So that's us feeling like, you know, oh, I, I didn't Tell that story very well. You know, I should have said this. I shouldn't have said that. So we have this, you know, this voice that's telling us that we didn't do a good job.
Ritu Chatterjee
And so Gillian says that for people who are spending the bulk of their days alone being isolated, that negative voice in their heads is the one that becomes more prominent, telling them that they aren't great at social interactions.
Gillian Sandstrom
If you're not seeing other people, you're not getting that sense that people care about me. I matter to people, that maybe they help you feel like you're not the only one going through this.
Emily Kwong
Ritu, for people who don't have offices to visit and don't have a co working space, what can they do to combat these negative side effects of the social isolation that comes with working from home?
Ritu Chatterjee
Well, so I asked Jillian exactly that question. She recommends being more intentional and seeking daily human interactions. She says she works from home herself. And so for her, that means I
Gillian Sandstrom
leave the house every day. I go for a walk, I see my neighbors, I pet some dogs. You know, I have my activities that I do outside tennis. I have hobbies that mean that I see other people.
Emily Kwong
Yeah. So it's about, like, planning for social connection. What do you think all this means for return to office mandates? There's a lot of push, even at npr, to get our newsroom back into the office more regularly.
Ritu Chatterjee
So I'll just paraphrase what Nick Epley said to me. He said these results as clear of a link as it shows to poorer mental health does not mean that workplaces require every worker to come back. Because, remember, there are clear advantages. Right. Especially to certain vulnerable groups like caregivers. You know, I mentioned I'm a parent with two little kids, and then there are many people who are caring for their kids and elderly parents. So more responsibilities.
Emily Kwong
It certainly allows more caregivers to be in the workforce, period. Having a policy like that.
Ritu Chatterjee
Absolutely. I've also heard from a couple of neurodivergent individuals who say that working from home makes them less anxious because it takes away the stress and anxiety of trying to fit into a neurotypical workplace. But for companies who do want people to return to the office, Nick Epley says they need to make the office more attractive.
Emily Kwong
Ha.
Ritu Chatterjee
I love this twist.
Nicholas Epley
What they're providing that's rewarding at work is social interaction, social connection, but you got to coordinate that, makes sure that everybody's in on the days when everybody's in.
Emily Kwong
Honestly, NPR has one of the biggest attractants to getting people into the office possible, which is the tiny desk concerts. The fact that you and I can go up to the fourth floor and see a concert that will be posted later on YouTube is, like, ridiculous.
Ritu Chatterjee
You're right. It is a great privilege. And the fact that you can have those moments of connection with your coworkers makes work feel less transactional and more human.
Gillian Sandstrom
Those moments of human connection are what keep us going. They're what make us want to work. They bring new information and make us work better. And so sacrificing them adds up to something bigger than it seems, I think.
Emily Kwong
Yeah. Being reminded that you matter and that you're a part of something.
Ritu Chatterjee
Yeah. And you want to make something bigger with your colleagues.
Emily Kwong
Ritu Chatterjee, thank you so much for bringing us this reporting.
Ritu Chatterjee
Always a pleasure, Emily.
Emily Kwong
This episode was produced by Arun Nair and edited by Rebecca Ramirez. Tyler Jones checked the facts. Jimmy Keeley was the audio engineer.
Ritu Chatterjee
I'm Ritu Chatterjee.
Emily Kwong
And I'm Emily Kwong. Thank you for listening to Shorewave, the science podcast from npr.
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Date: June 29, 2026
Hosts: Emily Kwong & Ritu Chatterjee
Guest Experts: Natalia Emanuel (Economist, Federal Reserve Bank of New York), Nicholas Epley (Professor, University of Chicago Booth), Gillian Sandstrom (Psychologist, University of Sussex)
Length: ~15 minutes
This episode investigates the mental health consequences of remote work, a topic that has become even more relevant since the pandemic dramatically increased the prevalence of working from home. Host Emily Kwong and NPR mental health correspondent Ritu Chatterjee delve into a significant new study published in Science, which explores how working from home is affecting social connection, mental well-being, and even physical health among American workers.
In essence:
Working from home can boost productivity and life-balance—but it quietly undermines our need for daily human contact. Both individuals and organizations must be mindful to cultivate social connection, regardless of where work happens.