Carl Radke on Summer House tea, sobriety, hooping vs. WNBA legends

Summary

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Show Me Something – Episode 34

Guest: Carl Radke
Hosts: Sophie Cunningham & West Wilson
Date: February 26, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode brings reality TV personality and podcast host Carl Radke (of Bravo’s Summer House) to the table with WNBA star Sophie Cunningham and co-host West Wilson. Together, they explore the intersections between reality TV and pro sports, focusing on Carl’s journey of sobriety, his experiences on and off the screen, his sports background (including practicing with Syracuse women’s basketball), and the intricacies of authentic friendship and character growth under public scrutiny. The conversation is candid, heartfelt, and often hilarious—with lots of inside Summer House tea, deeper conversations about addiction, resilience, and a healthy dose of banter about practice-player hijinks versus WNBA legends.

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1. Carl Radke: Introduction & Recent Projects

[04:05 – 05:47]

• West introduces Carl as an OG from Summer House, now also a podcast host and published author.
• Carl describes the emotional labor behind his new book, Cake Eater, and how both writing and podcast launching have been rewarding but intense.
  • "It's not like a happy, you know, hug your friends, read. It's very difficult, you know, material and things I've been through...The goal from the beginning with the book was to help people, and I feel like that's—it’s happening." —Carl [05:10]

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2. Sobriety and Life Transformation

[06:31 – 08:16]

• Sophie praises Carl’s choice to remain sober on Summer House, a show known for its wild, party-heavy environment.
• Carl discusses his family history with addiction, the need to "look in the mirror," and choosing to be open about his struggles on TV.
  • "A big part of that was admitting that I'm an alcoholic and a drug addict...I hated who I was and the person I was putting out [on early seasons]. From season five and on, I really tried to make better choices." —Carl [07:29]
• He emphasizes that sharing his story is about helping others, not seeking attention or perfection.

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3. Carl’s Sports Background: Pittsburgh Roots & College Years

[08:18 – 16:58]

• Carl recounts his early memories of being a Pittsburgh sports fan and attending Wrigley Field as a child.
• Talks about attending Syracuse University for its journalism program after being advised by a guidance counselor.
• Reveals his decorated background as a standout volleyball player in high school, including being first-team All Pennsylvania and Junior Olympics participation.
  • "I was probably the best setter in...the country my senior year." —Carl [13:07]
• Chose academics over a more athletic-focused university experience but still played on Syracuse’s club team, earning All-American recognition [16:43].

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4. Playing Against WNBA Legends: Inside the Practice Squad

[17:28 – 22:57]

• Carl shares how he became a men’s practice player for the Syracuse women’s basketball team after impressing at a campus pickup game.
• Hilarious and honest stories about transitioning to the women’s game—including being physically outmatched by Carrie Lambert (Bill Laimbeer’s daughter).
  • "I remember going toe-to-toe in the paint, and she would kick my ass, dude." —Carl [18:53]
• Sophie and Carl joke about the infamous “no dunking” rule for male practice players and the unique physicality of women's basketball.
• Carl recalls impersonating legends like Cappie Pondexter in pre-game scrimmages and gaining deep respect for the fundamentals and grit of women’s hoops.
  • "The fundamentals are better than the men. The women...did it better than us." —Carl [22:02]

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5. Summer House Stories & Friendship Origins

[27:10 – 33:33]

• Carl details his path from a TV/film/communications graduate and LA transplant, to joining Summer House in 2016 after a chance chain of events involving co-star Kyle Cook.
• The origin of Carl and Kyle’s friendship is recounted in classic Summer House style—over a massive bottle of rosé at Surf Lodge—that led to his last-minute casting on the show.
  • "I know you’re a lot of fun and seem like a good guy. Like, what do you think? And I’m like, okay, fuck it." —Carl [33:22]
• Anecdotes about bar napkin podcast contracts and the genuine, unscripted roots of Summer House's relationships.
• Discussion on how friendships and bonds exist outside the TV context—and how the cast navigates real growth and change together.

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6. Sobriety & Social Life on Reality TV

[35:59 – 41:30]

• Sophie probes how real the relationships are on shows like Summer House.
• Carl opens up about his dynamic with Kyle—both support and friction, and how their friendship survived both Carl’s darkest moments and Kyle’s struggles.
• Candid discussion on not developing a “God complex” in sobriety, and trying to gently help friends without being patronizing.
  • "I think when I first got sober...I had this high and mighty, like, I was better than you kind of a little bit...I had to humble myself." —Carl [37:51]
• Importance of still participating and having fun—dressing up, planning parties—as a sober person, and how inclusion takes different forms.
  • "Just because I’m sober doesn’t mean I don’t want to go out or stop getting dressed up." —Carl [43:39]

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7. Relationship Tea: Bailey, Lindsay, and House Dynamics

[44:23 – 58:24]

• Sophie presses Carl on his “makeout” with Bailey and his new “fun Carl” persona this season.
  • "This summer is, like, so far, fun Carl. You just give two fucks. And I love to see it." —Sophie [44:04]
• Lively banter about Summer House newcomers (Ben, Bailey), jealousy in the house, and the blurred lines between friendship and showmanship.
• Heartfelt section about Carl’s post-breakup relationship with Lindsay—how he misses the deep friendship, respects her new happiness as a mother, and hopes for more peaceful, friendly ground.
  • "Of course, I miss my friendship with her. I miss some of the inside jokes...since we’ve been broken up and been kind of living our own lives, of course, like, I miss my friendship with her." —Carl [52:26]
  • "My goal is at the reunion, she unblocks me from Instagram." —Carl [56:15]
• Honest about the awkwardness, closure needs, and how group dynamics are healing.

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8. Living in the Public Eye, Personal Growth, and Mental Wellness

[59:31 – 63:43]

• Carl and Sophie discuss the toll of public opinion, internet comments, and learning to develop a "don't give a fuck" attitude.
  • "People are gonna love me or hate me regardless of what I do, so why would I not just do what I want?" —Sophie [61:19]
• On recovering from public breakups and feeling like “everybody hated me,” Carl emphasizes therapy, healing, and finally feeling like himself again.
• They reinforce that everyone goes through tough things—reality TV just amplifies it to the public.
  • "I need to bottle up some of that Sophie Cunningham fuck you energy..." —Carl [63:13]

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9. Basketball, Cameos, and Closing Banter

[63:50 – 65:01]

• The hosts reminisce about past Summer House basketball games and joke about getting Sophie as a guest on the show.
• Carl expresses gratitude and love for Wes, Sophie, and the supportive audience.
  • "I'm a huge fan of what you guys are doing...you're awesome. I'm a huge fan." —Carl [64:19]

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10. Notable Quotes & Highlights

• "I feel like I get way more credit than I deserve...I don’t have it all figured out." —Carl [07:01]
• "The only way I can be a part of the show is by not drinking...I can still be a dick...I’m still human." —Carl [59:09]
• "I thought it gave me this kind of, like, confidence and who I thought I wanted to be. But as a result, it actually was the opposite." —Carl [40:49]
• "If you don't like me, then fuck you. It's your problem, not mine." —Sophie [41:06]
• “We need Sophie on Summer House.” —Carl [63:43]

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11. Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:05] – Carl’s intro, book, and podcast
• [06:31] – Sobriety on Summer House
• [08:49] – Pittsburgh sports fandom
• [12:07] – Journalism school and volleyball roots
• [17:28] – Men’s practice squad stories; WNBA legends
• [27:10] – From sales to Summer House casting
• [35:59] – Evolution of friendships under the reality TV lens
• [37:51] – Approaching sobriety with humility
• [43:39] – Party/costume meltdown and inclusion as a sober person
• [44:23] – “Fun Carl” and Summer House relationship stories
• [52:26] – On missing Lindsay’s friendship
• [59:31] – Dealing with public criticism and mental wellness
• [63:50] – Basketball, cameos, and closing love-fest

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12. Closing Thoughts

This episode stands out for its blend of locker room laughs, reality TV dish, and raw life lessons. Carl Radke’s presence brings vulnerability and perspective—a unique blend of humility and humor—while Sophie and West’s questions allow for a deep-dive into what it means to grow up, recover, and show up authentically under the spotlight. Whether you’re here for the Summer House drama, the inside WNBA scoops, or just some genuine "digital happy hour" companionship, this episode delivers.

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[Carl Radke]

I'll tell you my favorite story. Was Carrie Lambert. I haven't talked to her a long time. Carrie Lambert, Bill Laimbeer's daughter. She was one of our power forwards at the time.

[Sophie Cunningham]

She's big.

[Carl Radke]

She was a beast. And she was. She was good and obviously had the NBA pedigree.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

But I remember one of the assistant coaches going to me, he's like, carl, go as hard as you can, do whatever you like. And I can still, like, dunk it. Yeah. So, like. But the women's ball was a little bit smaller, and I was adjusting to, like, using that a little bit.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

But I remember going toe to toe in the paint, and she would kick my fucking ass, dude. Really?

[Sophie Cunningham]

They weren't allowed. We had a rule that you guys weren't allowed to dunk. You guys could do anything, but you weren't allowed to dunk. And, like, it was. It's so funny, though, because it take you a second to learn how to, like, play against the girls. I just think it's funny too, though, because our practice players is, like, the first ones. Like, you know you're playing, so sometimes you're going to, like, hit someone in the boob. Or we're going to hit you guys, like, in the.

[Wes]

Oh, yeah, someone. If you're posting some guy up, down low, and he's just.

[Carl Radke]

I was also, like, trying to, like, like, get some, like, leverage, and I'm, like, putting my head in her tits. Like,

[Sophie Cunningham]

I love it.

[Wes]

Okay, first things first, guys. Show me something. Podcast Episode 34 we are joined by a dear friend of mine, Carl Radke. He's now also a podcast host himself, Summerhouse og And I've got it in real time. Are you calling yourself an author, Carl?

[Carl Radke]

No, I'm not.

[Wes]

Carl, you have to.

[Carl Radke]

This is awesome.

[Wes]

You can.

[Carl Radke]

I mean, I feel like I have to, but I'm not comfortable with that. There's a lot of amazing authors who are real authors. I'm just. Just a regular random dude.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That's why people love you, though.

[Wes]

But Carl did publish a book. It is called Cake Eater. You've kind of got a lot of awesome stuff going on right now. Are you more excited to have the book going around or are you more excited to start the pod?

[Carl Radke]

I mean, I feel like I've been working on both of these things for, like, almost two years. So they kind of go hand in hand together. They kind of feed each other. So, I mean, it's been. Both of them have been really fulfilling and super, you know, super fun. Very overwhelming. Some of the book stuff. Going on tour has been really exciting, but also. Yeah, I mean, I've opened up a lot about, you know, dark, difficult things in my life. It's not like a happy, you know, hug your friends, read. It's very difficult, you know, material and things I've been through. So, Yeah, I mean, some of it's been amazing, but the goal from the beginning with the book was to help people, and I feel like that's. That's what's happening, so that's all that really matters.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Okay, I should.

[Wes]

Real quick. So I'm going to introduce you guys, because that's my fault. I didn't even do it.

[Carl Radke]

No, you're good.

[Wes]

Sophie, Karl. Karl, Sophie. And before I go, this summer, when we were filming Summer House, I told Carl, I was like, I might be doing a podcast with Sophie Cunningham. Like, I don't know if you know who that is, Carl and I live in a house with a lot of dudes who aren't super big ball knowers. Carl is a ball knower? Yeah, Carl's a dude. She's a beast. Like, you got to do it. And so I'm glad you two get to me now.

[Carl Radke]

Okay. Hi, Sophie.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Hi, Carl. Okay, so I was. I love this. I was just telling us. I was like, I think that I just really love him. Like, I just feel like you are just a good freaking human, and there's just something about you that you just want to squeeze. Like, and, like, well done. That's why everyone's, like, calls him dad. But seriously, I think that you are a fan favorite for so many reasons, but something that I want to talk to you about because I think this is, like, so bold and courageous of you, and I, like, love you for it, is, like, you're on a show that is known for, like, partying. Partying. How do you say that word? Partying?

[Carl Radke]

Partying.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. Being a party or. And the fact that you just choose to, like, be sober and now you're into running, you're an author. You're starting your own podcast. Like, I feel like you are living your best years right now. And, like, you're mentally, physically, emotionally, everything. You are just, like, blooming and blossoming, and everyone who watches the show can see it. So, like, let's dive into that big time. Because I don't know you, but I'm so proud of you. And I know other people, when I said that we're having you on the podcast, they're like, hell, yeah. And I'm like, let's get into it. So.

[Carl Radke]

Well, thank you, thank you, thank you. If I could say anything, I feel like I get way more credit than I deserve. You know, I've. I don't have it all figured out, so I appreciate the kind words, but, you know, it's hard sometimes to receive such complimentary feedback because I, you know, I've been through a lot of stuff. I've definitely. I don't think I'm a fan favorite. I appreciate the notion of that, but, you know, I've certainly put a lot out there for the fans to talk about over the years. Some pretty bad, some pretty ugly. But, you know, that's kind of what we're, you know, what we're here to do is show our lives and all the. All the ugly, all the bad and the good sometimes. But, yeah, no, I've been very lucky and very privileged in a lot of different ways with a lot of opportunities, and a lot of things have kind of come my way since kind of turning my life around. And a big part of that was admitting that I'm an alcoholic and a drug addict. And, like, I had to take those steps. I come from a family that has alcoholism and drug addiction in it, mental health issues. So, yeah, it was important for me to kind of look in the mirror. And I also watch the show, too, Sophie. So seasons one through four, I mean, I hated myself. Like, I hated who I was and the person I was putting out. And from season five and on, you know, I really tried to make better choices and really look in the mirror.

[Wes]

I told Sophie, before we do this, because I've done like the same press you have, Carl, that we get asked a lot of the same questions over and over and over and over again a thousand times. And I think we want to have a little more fun and ask you stuff that you've never been asked before. In the spirit of this being a sports podcast, originally, you're a Pittsburgh guy, born and raised. Pirates, Penguins, Steelers. Who am I forgetting?

[Carl Radke]

Pirates, Penguins, Steelers. It's our Big Three. That's all we have.

[Wes]

Yeah, Big Three.

[Carl Radke]

But I went to Syracuse University, so I do kind of low key cheer for the sports. I mean, basketball in Syracuse has been on a downhill the last. I mean, ever since we joined. Ever since we joined the ACC when the Big east got kind of disbanded, you know, Georgetown, UConn, Villanova, Syracuse Pitt. It's never been the same for the basketball team.

[Wes]

Even old Big east football used to be sick. And they had, like, West Virginia, remember where they had, like, Steve Slayton, like, old Big east used to be so tight.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah, West Virginia, Miami, Virginia Tech. Miami. That's a pretty good, like, Thursday night ACC games.

[Wes]

What are your first memories as a Pittsburgh, like, sports fan? Is it the Steelers? Like, what do you, like? What is your first memory that you can, like, recall?

[Carl Radke]

First memory was 1990. 91, 92. The Penguins won back to back Stanley Cups. Mario Lemieux, Yammer Jagger lived in our little community. He would. You would go to his house during Halloween and he would, like, in Pittsburgh. So the local players had like a candy bar, like, it was like their local thing.

[Sophie Cunningham]

What was it, though? Was it like a Snickers? Like a toy?

[Carl Radke]

It was a yammer yagur peanut butter hockey puck, like, circular.

[Wes]

Oh, that sounds kind of good, actually.

[Carl Radke]

It was honestly legit. And he would hand them out from his own home because he lived in, like, in the community. So people would trick or treat at his house and he'd hand out his own candy bar to. To the kids.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Wait, is that cocky as shit or is that, like, legit?

[Carl Radke]

Well, he. He's. He's a Czech and he's got a personality, so he kind of got away with being like an ego, like, alpha. But yeah, my first memory really, of that was 1991. Penguins back to back. However, I do want to flag. I was born in Chicago, Illinois, and we lived there when I was very young. My first game ever was a Chicago Cubs game at Wrigley. Crazy. It was a day game because when I went to the Wrigley Field, they did not have lights for night games. It was only daytime games at Wrigley up until, like, the late 90s.

[Wes]

Do you know that there was also an ordinance in Chicago that said that you can't make loud noise after whatever PM it was like 7 or 8pm so that's why the Cubs, like, oh, like, if you watch them on tv, they're always playing there during the day. Because at Wrigley, they've been playing day games for so long due to, like, not having lights and like these weird Chicago ordinances that they, like, never got rid of.

[Carl Radke]

Well, like, Wrigley's like, literally in a neighborhood. It's like you're walking, you know, it's like north of Chicago, but it's almost like it feels like you're in someone's backyard, and then all of a sudden, here's a baseball stadium.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But guys, don't you kind of prefer like a great like 75, 80 degree day with a slight breeze rather than a night game? Like think about it.

[Carl Radke]

Baseball. Yeah, baseball day game is pretty epic. I would say a playoff night game. It's pretty cool too where it's at like an October night game, playoffs, you're

[Sophie Cunningham]

kind of bundled up a little bit.

[Carl Radke]

Oh yeah, I like that. Oh yeah.

[Wes]

Carl, what took you to Syracuse? Like, I know Syracuse is a good journalism school and I know. Or you kind of feel good right

[Carl Radke]

behind me, I've got.

[Wes]

Oh, there it is.

[Carl Radke]

My credentials.

[Wes]

I.

[Carl Radke]

My, my guy, my guidance counselor, sophomore year of high school. I did like the morning announcements. I love holding microphones. I did the sports stuff even though I played. I love like ESPN and Sports Center. I mean kind of like you guys too. I thought of. I wanted to go to journalism school. It's originally my idea. And my guidance counselor wrote down like four different schools. She's like Syracuse, nyu, usc, University, Missouri

[Wes]

probably, if we're being honest.

[Carl Radke]

I think it is.

[Sophie Cunningham]

It's the number one journalism school in the country.

[Carl Radke]

So yeah, there was a few schools and I. My uncle had actually had some friends that gone to Syracuse and something about the basketball team, the big sports, the big school. I was really excited about trying to go there. So I put all my eggs into the Syracuse basket from like junior year. That's where I knew I wanted to go there because of the school, the education program. But that's how I got to Syracuse. So I was recruit. I was a really good volleyball player. I was all.

[Sophie Cunningham]

You played volleyball?

[Carl Radke]

Yeah, I was first team all Pennsylvania my senior year. I was probably the best setter in. I mean I worked in the country. I was probably the top five player in the country my senior year.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Are you shitting me?

[Carl Radke]

Yeah. I mean volleyball, yeah,

[Sophie Cunningham]

dude, I know but like I just, I feel like being in the Midwest, I think when we were growing up volleyball, all the tall guys, they went to basketball, but there's so many basketball players that I was like, dude, you'd be a badass volleyball player. And the fact that you played. Did you ever play sand?

[Carl Radke]

Oh, absolutely. We had a sand court in our, like in our town. Even though we lived in Pittsburgh, we had like this cool sand court in the summer we all would like pick up.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude, I had no idea. That like makes me just love you even more. What the heck? That is so fun.

[Carl Radke]

This is how it came to be. My. I loved baseball. I love. My. My brother was an amazing Baseball player. He, you know, was world class baseball player. People knew he was a great athlete. So I always wanted to be like my brother.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

And when I got to high school, I was on the freshman baseball team. I wasn't great, but I just wanted to play. And then sophomore year I tried out for the varsity baseball team, got cut. I didn't even make the JD team. So I like went home crying essentially when I got cut. What am I going to do now with all this free time? And one of my friends said to me, shout out to Ryan Murray. He was like, bro, if you want to dunk a basketball, try out for the volleyball team. And it was kind of like all these basketball players that weren't playing a spring sport. Went over to the basketball team and my sophomore, or, sorry, volleyball team my sophomore year, we had two of our best basketball players on the varsity. But I just caught the bug and it was incredibly technical, very competitive. I love the athleticism of the jumping and the blocking.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude, wait, the jumping that men volleyball players out of this damn world. Like, I don't think people took them credit, dude. Well, you're thinking basketball players just dunking. But I'm like, no, you need to watch volleyball players jump. It is, it is insane.

[Carl Radke]

They were crazy. So yeah, I, I caught the bug my sophomore year of high school with volleyball. I wasn't great my sophomore year, but by junior year, yes, I actually started playing like there's a Junior Olympics kind of community. I started playing volleyball at Junior Olympics and my junior year I was really, really good. But then by senior year, I mean, I was definitely one of the best players in the state. Oh, rad.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Wow. I'm a setter.

[Carl Radke]

Well, it's funny because with setting the right side, like the setter actually is the right side blocker and the left side hitter is the strong hitter. So technically you want your probably your smartest player and your best blocker to be on your right side. I was a good blocker, but I was super smart.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

So I played also. We did a 6:2. So I would set back row and then hit front row.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Smart.

[Carl Radke]

So I had a good arm and a good, good swing. But yeah, I was going to say though, when I graduated from Syracuse, I was recruited by, you know, Penn State, St. Francis, like Ohio State, ball. I actually went to Ball State to look good old Indiana, but I wanted a large university experience and I wasn't going to get much scholarship money from those schools. And I don't think my dad said this, but I heard this from someone they said, carl, if you tear your acl, day one of being at Ball State or Ohio State, do you still want to go there? Yeah. I mean, the answer. The answer is no.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Damn.

[Carl Radke]

I wanted to go to. I wanted to go to where the education was the best and the program for furthering my career after college made the most sense.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

But I got to Syracuse, and I did play on the club men's volleyball team. And my freshman year, I was an All American as an actual outside hitter, not a setter.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Right side or left?

[Carl Radke]

I was the left side.

[Wes]

Oh, you. You've been so humble about that, because I know you played volleyball, but you have never dropped the accolades until just now.

[Carl Radke]

No, I was legit. Very legit.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude.

[Carl Radke]

Ooh, we got to find the eight. We got to find. You'll get a kick out of this. So this is sophomore year at Syracuse. There was a gym on campus where all the football players would come and play pickup. The lacrosse team played pickup. I was just the regular guys, but we had, like, a good crew of basketball players.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Sorry.

[Carl Radke]

And I was playing pickup. I mean, I could dunk. I was balling like I was a good player.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yep.

[Carl Radke]

One of the assistant coaches from the men's basketball team was there watching. He pulled me aside. He said, hey, you want to try out? I said, absolutely. So I went over to the tryout like, a week or two later, and Jim Boeheim was there, the whole deal. Yeah. I didn't make the team. I got an email about a week later. Hey, Carl, I'm the head coach of the women's basketball team.

[Wes]

Oh, you want to know where this is going?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh, practice player.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Did you do it?

[Carl Radke]

Coach Quentin Richardson was like, yo, we're doing this whole men's practice squad. Kind of like what UConn was doing. Yeah, we wanted our best.

[Wes]

A lot of schools do that, I think.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Well, everyone does it now. But I don't know, back in the day, it might have been, like, a newer thing. I don't know.

[Carl Radke]

I think it was newer. I was one of the first ones at Syracuse to kind of do this, but I went into the meeting, and it was like, you get a Gatorade with your name on it, you get a pair of shoes. All the kids show up to this thing. And my favorite story. I'll tell you, my favorite story was Carrie Lambert. I didn't talk to her in a long time. Carrie Lambert, Bill Lambert's daughter.

[Wes]

Daughter.

[Carl Radke]

She was one of our power forwards at the time.

[Sophie Cunningham]

She's fucking big.

[Carl Radke]

She was a beast. And she was. She was good and obviously had the NBA pedigree. But I remember one of the assistant coaches going to me, he's like, carl, go as hard as you fucking. You can't do whatever you like. And I could still, like, dunk it. Yeah. So, like. But the women's ball was a little bit smaller than I was adjusting to, like, using that a little bit.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

But I remember going toe to toe in the paint, and she would kick my ass, dude.

[Wes]

Really?

[Sophie Cunningham]

They weren't allowed. We had a rule that you guys weren't allowed to dunk. You guys could do anything, but you weren't allowed to dunk. And, like, it was. It's so funny, though, because. Did it take you a second to learn how to, like, play against the girls?

[Carl Radke]

Absolutely. I mean, I was. I obviously, I was excited about the opportunity because I knew how fundamental and skilled, but what I didn't clock was the toughness and, like, the physicality of the women. I just assumed it was be a little less physical. It was actually more physical than I ever realized.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Everyone says that. Everyone.

[Wes]

Because, like, I heard that too.

[Sophie Cunningham]

We just. You just have to be. Because when the guys are so much more athletic, like, I don't care what anyone says. Yes, there's a lot of athletic females, but guys are just built different. And so we, I feel like, have to be more physical. And so when our practice players come in, they're like, like, we got the beat out of us today. And we're like, yeah, we have to like to keep up with you guys. Like, there's no way that you. You can't. So I just think it's funny too, though, because our practice players is like, the first ones. Like, you know you're playing, so sometimes you're gonna, like, hit someone in the boob or we're gonna hit you guys, like, in the next 30 days.

[Carl Radke]

Oh, yeah.

[Wes]

Someone. If you're posting some guy up down low and he's just.

[Carl Radke]

I was also, like, trying to, like, like, get some, like, leverage, and I'm like, putting my head in her tits. Like,

[Sophie Cunningham]

I love it.

[Carl Radke]

But I will say that the no dunking policy is a real thing because he had, like. I got frustrated at one point. I was like, kind of backing down.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

And I did, like, a pump fake and, like, drop step. And I can like to, like, a quick step and dunk.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

And I did it. And the coach goes, don't ever fucking do that shit again, Carl.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Just like, fuck you, females.

[Wes]

Just because it's not a part of, like, I don't want to. It's just not a part of the women's game. So they just, like, realistic.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Like, it has to be realistic. There's not anyone doing what Carl can do, especially if you played men's volleyball. There's just no way.

[Carl Radke]

And then I remember. This is a crazy memory, but there was a guard from Rutgers at the time who is one of the best players in college basketball. Cap Cappy Pondext.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh, my gosh. Yes. What?

[Carl Radke]

She was sick. And so I would wear this, like, different colored jersey. I'd be cappy for a plaque. A practice.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

Basically, I just ran around like a maniac. Like, screens are being set. I just ran all over the place. And there was one particular person that had to guard.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yep.

[Carl Radke]

But I would play kind of.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That dude, Kathy's, like, one of the best players that ever crossed the wnba. Like, that is insane, Carl, that, you know these people. This is just, like, blowing my damn mind.

[Carl Radke]

No, I remember her vividly because she was. Yeah. Like, we had to kind of prepare for that game. I always would tell my friends. They're like, how was Carol saying we?

[Wes]

You hear that? He's saying we.

[Sophie Cunningham]

What a team.

[Wes]

I love what they're doing there.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No, but I will say, I think that, like, our practice players are men who are, like, in female sports. And, like, you're in it like you're playing or, like, your manager or whatever. Like, you have a better appreciation for how. How hard. Like, how hard we work. And, like, the athleticism that we have, it's different than the men, but there's still an appreciation for it. And, like, the fact that you're still a fan of it, I think it's because you were in it. Like, I just love that.

[Carl Radke]

I love it more. I mean, more than, like, the competitiveness was incredible. The fundamentals were. I actually believe the fundamentals are better than the men. Yeah, you know, the just bounce passing and pick screen setting screens. Some of the defending, it was like, the women, I felt like, were, like, they do it. They did it better than us, and we got away.

[Sophie Cunningham]

We have to, like, we have to. We have to pay attention to the small details because you guys are just too athletic that you'd pick us apart. If you don't have the right angle, if you don't have the right, I don't know, defensive scheme.

[Wes]

Like, ultimately, that's the. That's the whole purpose of having the men's squad is to just kind of, like, really hone in to make everything a little bit different.

[Carl Radke]

I'LL have to send you guys the stream screenshot. There's a. It's called the. It's called the Daily. The Daily Orange, which is our student newspaper. And it was like, yeah, men's basket or men's team cast offs practicing with the women or something.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I love it. I love it.

[Carl Radke]

So, yeah, you know that the, the

[Sophie Cunningham]

WBA still has practice squads, so you need to get on the practice squad of the Liberty.

[Carl Radke]

Hey, do you need an extra? Well, it's funny, I live in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, and the Liberty are building their brand new practice facility right, right outside where. Where I live.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude, what if.

[Wes]

Oh, it's written in the stars, Carl.

[Carl Radke]

I've already got the practice spot.

[Sophie Cunningham]

What if I got traded up there and then actually me and Carl become like fucking best friends.

[Carl Radke]

I thought you were going to say, like, we get married or something.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh, I mean that too. And then we have.

[Wes]

I love it.

[Carl Radke]

I love it.

[Wes]

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[Wes]

of your summer house lore Carl that I Still haven't watched, like everything from the beginning, but it's that you were like Mr. Sales, like, just loved. Just love sales.

[Carl Radke]

I love selling, like.

[Wes]

So you graduated from Syracuse with what degree?

[Carl Radke]

Television. Radio. Television, radio and film. And what's funny is in my eighth grade, like yearbook, we had like super, like superlums, like most likely to be an NFL player. Most likely to be on tv. It was me.

[Wes]

Oh.

[Carl Radke]

Because I always like, I like the mic in the camera. And like a lot of my friends from my hometown and growing up aren't surprised that I'm in the TV world. They're surprised the way it is. Like Bravo. They thought it might be me, like hosting something or being an anchor or doing that. Just, it's a little different.

[Wes]

I think the three of us could all agree we have always liked holding a microphone.

[Carl Radke]

I think we all have a knack for this.

[Sophie Cunningham]

It just comes natural. We have the face and the voice for it.

[Carl Radke]

I thought I had a face for radio, but, you know.

[Wes]

So you graduated and then were you in NYC right after you graduated? Like, came straight here?

[Carl Radke]

No, no. So it's funny, like, when you're a junior senior at Syracuse, a lot of the alumni, you know, they either like in the TV film program, alumni will go to LA or go to New York. And there's like a. At the time, it feels like, it feels like what? Like Reddit is. It's like a forum, but just for Syracuse University. And kids would be like, hey, I live in la. I just graduated last year. I have an open couch if anybody wants to, you know, crash my couch for two months, no problem. Like, alumni helped each other out. So when I graduated from Syracuse, I moved to LA like a week and a half after graduation. One bag. I brought an acoustic guitar. Like a total loser.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Like, dude, Carl, out of, out of everything that you might need to go across the damn world, you brought a guitar?

[Carl Radke]

Acoustic guitar that I like, could barely play. Like, you know, Oasis, Wonderwall, you know, I had a dream and I wanted to. I wanted to work in the tv, The TV world.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That's actually hilarious. Wait, when. What year did you start Summer House?

[Carl Radke]

First season of Summer house started filming June 2016.

[Wes]

This is the 10. 10 years ago, dude, 2016.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I was a sophomore in college.

[Carl Radke]

I was. I had just gotten back from Ibiza on a six day bachelor party, barely slept, and Kyle and I drove out to the Hamptons. We had no idea what the hell was happening. I mean, we were already. We were already doing this kind of thing with friends.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

And I'll never forget when I first moved to New York in 2013. So I'd been in LA for quite a while and I came to New York and I went to dinner with some friends. They're like, hey, what are you doing this summer? I'm like, I don't know, you know, hanging out in New York City. And they're like, no, come out to the Hamptons. And what I had learned, you know, that's 20 somethings, 30 somethings, finance, fashion, tech, whatever it is. They were like renting a house on the weekend with like a big group of friends. So I joined a house in 2014 and 2015.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Wow.

[Carl Radke]

And I did what we kind of do. I met Kyle. I'll never forget the first time I met Kyle West. I don't know if I ever told you this.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh, Lord.

[Carl Radke]

So a true story. I was at Surf Lodge. Now I was the guy back in the day. I'd get the massive bottle of rose. Like I'm talking about.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

Like, like it was always taller than like a five foot person.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh, God.

[Carl Radke]

And I had this bottle at the table and it was like my like chum in the water fishing. It was like luring in all the cute girls and whatever. Of course it was embarrassing. I'm not saying this was cool. Trust me.

[Wes]

No, it's cool. It's fine.

[Carl Radke]

I still go to.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Literally, no one is judging you. No one is judging you.

[Carl Radke]

So have this big bottle. And it was one of those. It reminded me of like. It was just like, I was like trying to hold court and overwalks Kyle Cook and he's like. I think he. This is what he said, but this is kind of my memory. And he's like, sick bottle dude, can I get some? And I'm like, what? I. I had this thing where the bottle was so big and heavy that like I could pick it up with one hand and like pour it. It wasn't easy, but it was like a douchebag move. Like, can you like pour it with one hand? Yeah. So I go to Kyle, I go, you can have some if you could pour it with one hand. He. And he like, couldn't do it.

[Wes]

Damn it.

[Carl Radke]

Show how it's done. And then I. We partied, we hung out. And then I swear, like a couple days later, I was at Equinox in soho where I lived in New York. And I was at the gym at like 7:30 in the morning. And I look over and here's this blonde kid that looked like the dude from Surf Lodge. And he's at the bench press, like, ripping weights and getting after 135, dude,

[Sophie Cunningham]

just to set up three.

[Carl Radke]

It's two plates, bro. Two plates. And I. I literally was like, yo, what's up, dude? And he was like, yeah. And we got each other's numbers and just became friends from there. But the honest to God truth, I was at my dentist's office a year later. I didn't know anything about a TV show. Nothing. I was getting. I worked in sales. The west sales guy thing. I was like a. A really good sales rep. I worked for a medical dental company. I'd sold braces and wires and orthodontics. I lived here in New York City. I worked New Jersey and all that. So one of our. One of my dentists who was a friend of Kyle's also, he would give me cleanings, and I'd go in and, like, pitch him new products. I went into his office in May of 2016. I get in the chair, I lay back, and he's like, yo, your boys are going to be on some Bravo show. And I go, what? And he's like, yeah, Kyle and Everett are going to be on some Hamptons reality show. And I, in the chair, I still have the email. I lay back and I wrote Kyle and Everett an email. Hey, boys, I'm at Lane. Lane was the dentist. I'm at Lane's office. What's this show about? Yeah, Kyle emailed right back and said, it's funny you asked. We're looking for another guy.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Say less.

[Carl Radke]

I called Kyle after that, and he's like, you know, me and him knew each other. We were friends, but it wasn't like I didn't know what was going on. He's like, yeah, we had some guy back out. We're looking for one more dude to complete our house. I know you're a lot of fun and seem like a good guy. Like, what do you think? And I'm like, okay, fuck it.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I love it.

[Wes]

Isn't it crazy, the chain of events that just, like. Because you went to Surf Lodge that one day, and Kyle came up to you that one day, and then you were at Equinox. Like, it all leads to, like. I mean, same with when I met fucking Lindsey. Like, it's just, like, so random.

[Carl Radke]

I'll never forget she came home from the bar that night. I'll never forget it. She was like, I met the coolest guy ever. And, like, you were going to do a podcast together. And she had, like, this napkin of, like, a contract. Oh, and you guys had drawn up some, like, arrangement on a piece of paper.

[Wes]

We laughed about this the other day. Sophie, I don't know if you know this. The night I met Lindsay, I, like, told her because I was working at Bleach Airport or whatever, and then it's just the most Lindsay thing ever. She was like, you know what would be, like, a good podcast? Like, a girl and a guy talking about sports. It'd be, like, inclusive, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, honestly? Yeah, good idea, whatever. And then we kept drinking, and she was like, you can't steal my fucking idea and take it to Bleacher Report tomorrow.

[Carl Radke]

And I was like.

[Wes]

I was like, no, I would never. So she got a bar napkin, pulled it out, and, like, sharpied a contract on a bar napkin and then made me sign it.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So funny.

[Wes]

And then we joke. We talked about it again the other day, and she was like, well, I guess you broke your fucking contract. You have a podcast with a girl now.

[Carl Radke]

You guys got the dance for it. Here we are.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That was my fault. I know. My bad. My bad.

[Wes]

All right, y', all, it's time for a new segment powered by Captain Morgan.

[Sophie Cunningham]

We're calling it Captain's Calls, where you send your should I or shouldn't I dilemmas, your hot takes, your unpopular opinions,

[Wes]

the messy ones, the bold ones that I might regret this later ones.

[Sophie Cunningham]

If you need some advice or how to get it right, we're giving you the Captain's Call.

[Wes]

So if you've got a life decision, a risky text, a group chat, controversy, or a take you're scared to post,

[Sophie Cunningham]

send it in, baby. Let the captains decide what you talked about it. And I want to. I want to know, because I didn't realize how in depth your relationship with Kyle really was. Or is. Is it, like, so weird to look back on the last, like, 10 years? Because I think a lot of people, because I'm not in the reality TV world, and so I've asked West this multiple times. It's like, are these relationships, like, real relationships? Like, when you are on a show, is it like, oh, you have to be because you're part of the show, or, like, you genuinely kind of start liking your castmates? And I feel like Kyle is one that you guys have been through so much with. And so, like, just, like, the. The first three episodes of this season, I just feel like you have just grown and matured so much, like, every aspect of your life. And, like, now I feel like you're looking at Kyle like, hey, like, you can get out of this and you can have. You can blossom too. But I feel like you're in a tough spot of, like, him needing to realize it himself, but also you kind of being his mentor because you've been through it.

[Carl Radke]

Very solid perspective. I. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting. Kyle's been through a lot with me on the other side. You know, before I was getting sober, Kyle had to deal with a lot of my ups and downs. You know, I'd show up to work pretty screwed up from the night before. I infamously showed up to work forgetting my laptop. So he had put up with a lot over the years with me. And, you know, we're best friends. I love the guy to death, but I definitely, you know, it's been hard seeing, you know, some of these challenges that he's gone through. But I will say, like, we both like, when I'm having a tough time, he's there for me. When he's having a tough time, I'm there for him. But I try not to be, you know, just stand back and, like, be a helpful person. But I try to voice some things that I feel like are important, but we're very different people. And what's the psycho fitness guy that I love to death? Like?

[Wes]

It's.

[Carl Radke]

It's gotten less of that, and I'm trying to push him back into more fitness and wellness because I think that will unlock some things for him as well.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yep. Do you.

[Wes]

Obviously you're like, I think you're a hyper self aware person, especially now that.

[Carl Radke]

Just too much to my own fault.

[Wes]

I know. But do you, like, how much do you tiptoe? Because I feel like you would worry about having kind of like the God complex now of being the sober person, dealing with, you know, like our dumb, drunk, crybaby moments and stuff. I think you do a great job of, like, sharing your story without being condescending towards other people, but kind of to what Sophie brought up about, now it's kind of like your time to give Kyle that, like, brotherly advice. How do you navigate, like, not coming off pretentious in the, like, sobriety, like, lens?

[Carl Radke]

You know, I think it's an amazing. I'm glad you asked that, Wes, because I think that's something I'm very conscious of. I think when I first got sober, I mean, even you could ask Lindsay probably. Like, I would look at people early on when I got sober, like, oh, you're just drunk. Like, I had this high and mighty, like, I was better than you kind of a little bit. And it's it's not a great thing to be in early sobriety. Like, you don't have it all figured out. I had to humble myself a little bit and kind of step back and go, listen, whatever is okay. Whatever works best for them. That's okay. You know, not everybody's an alcoholic. Not everybody's a drug addict. You don't need to insert your own story into every little thing. So I've just tried to step back. You know, I have some friends that, of course, like, deep down in my body am I, like, should I say something?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

But I don't. I try to step back and just be a support, be a friend. And I try not to make a lot of our conversation all about sobriety. It's one of the most important things in my life, But I want to be just a regular guy, too. And sometimes I love my sober community. Sometimes when you're newly sober, it's like, all you talk about.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But I also want to say, though, I don't think that. I think the amount of people that I know, because they know I do this with Wes, that they bring you up and they're like, you know, it's really cool to see someone who is sober on the show. Like, I think you're not giving yourself enough credit because I think that you've given a lot of people inspiration who are in their late 20s, early 30s, like, whatever it is to, like, be sober and totally be, like, so okay with that and, like, stand in full confidence to do that. So I think you need to give yourself more credit about the amount of people that you're seriously, like, inspiring to do that. Because I know there's a lot of people who want to, but they're like, oh, I might not fit in, or, like, how am I going to go socialize? Or it's like, yeah, no, Carl is, like, the prime example. And, like, I think you give a lot of people hope, so I think you need to give yourself a little bit more credit.

[Carl Radke]

No, I. I appreciate that. Something I'm working on is receiving of compliments and praise.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I. I think we're all bad at that in some. Some.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

You know what I mean?

[Carl Radke]

Sometimes. Well, I think, you know, I'm very. I feel it's not lost on me, the impact that having, you know, me and this experience and kind of being honest about my ups and downs.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

And I think it's more relatable to have a group of friends that, okay, one of the people in the group doesn't drink anymore. It doesn't Party like that. But he still is social, still likes to have fun.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yep.

[Carl Radke]

And I'm proud that I get to kind of showcase a little bit of that experience to the audience.

[Sophie Cunningham]

For sure.

[Carl Radke]

You know, And I think also I will. I'm not going to speak for Kyle or Lindsay or Amanda, who did spend a lot of time with me under the influence. I was a nightmare. I was a fucking pain in the ass. I was an asshole. I was rude, I was a dick. I was. I was just like. I was chaotic.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

So I think if anything, the way it's. When I told, like, close friends, they were like, thank God.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

Kind of thing, you know, so.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But I. Because I think people love you. You don't need that stuff. You know what I mean? Some people actually. I don't know if really anyone needs it, but, like, some people feel like that's their whole identity.

[Carl Radke]

I thought it gave me this kind of, like, confidence and who I thought I wanted to be. But as a result, it actually was the opposite. And I figured it out. I've learned to kind of fall back into, like, no, this is just me. If you don't like me for this, then okay, no worries. But I'd rather be.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That's when you say, if you don't like me, then fuck you. It's your problem, not mine.

[Carl Radke]

I gotta bring Sophie on somehow. I like that.

[Wes]

Yeah, we've talked about it. One story, Carl, that really, like, it didn't like, change how I kind of thought about everything, but two summers ago and Sophie, this didn't. I don't think it made the show, but basically, like, the girls stole our costumes for, like, a costume party. And.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Do you say weird?

[Wes]

Costume?

[Carl Radke]

Costume.

[Sophie Cunningham]

You said costume.

[Wes]

Well, anyway, costume, no age. And okay, so they steal our costumes. We can't find them anywhere. And Carl is like, tweaking out, like. Like, he's like, where the is my costume? Everyone, like, losing it. And I was kind of like, carl. I was like, carl, you good? Like, we'll find him later. And Carl, to your credit, you took a breath and you're like, as someone who is no longer drinking a part of these parties, I feel included with my outfits, with planning the party, with all of this. And that was such a big moment for me to click. Like, even without necessarily drinking, there's still a zillion different other ways to feel included and be a part of things that are drinking centric, but they're not specifically drinking activities. And when you. When you told me that, you were like, this is what I. This Is how I like, have fun and feel a part of everything and feel a part of the group. I kind of in that moment, switched to being like, yeah, fuck you girls.

[Carl Radke]

Give them hey.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Then you crashed out.

[Carl Radke]

Thank you. You nailed it. I think you nailed it. I was just going to say I wish they showed that moment because I melted down. Sophie. I bought five, four costumes, matching. I'll explain. I bought four matching costumes for Kyle, Jesse west and myself. They were kind of douchey, fun. American flag, July 4th party outfits. I put them in the room. I go run some errands and setting up. I come back, they're gone. Now I have nothing else to wear other than a hot dog.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Hey, that would have been good too.

[Carl Radke]

That would have been funny. And I don't want to wear the hot dog. But I like, tore up the house. Everybody lied to my face. Sierra specifically was like, I don't have to call. And I was like, I know you're lying to me and I don't like you anymore because of this. Long story short, to West Point. There is something like some of my sober friends. I have a friend who says this very well. He's like, carl, just because I'm sober doesn't mean I don't want to go out or stop getting dressed up.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

And getting dressed up is another element of like that feeling of you're a part of it. You're participating, you're social, you're having fun. And for me, dressing up also, like, I can act and play it. Like acting almost as like a character and being silly or goofy or whatever it is. So dressing up, especially our theme parties, I love it because it gives me like another layer of just something fun to do and.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

How to participate.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So, dude, you guys go balls to the walls with your outfits. Like,

[Carl Radke]

well, Wes has also gone balls ball with themes. You've got a great theme to start the summer at the country fair. You know, he's. He brought love, his Missouri ness to the. To the table, which we love.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Wait, guys. Now that we're talking about this, I have got to know. Everyone wants to know how you made out with Bailey.

[Carl Radke]

How or what.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Not how, but like, how did it come about? Like, that is so good.

[Wes]

We know you can't ask that question, Sophie.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yes, I can. I can ask whatever the hell I want to ask. As if he wants to answer or not. And here's my thing. It's like we have just known you, Carl, for like just being like the dad of the house. You're always the one who's like up running a million miles in the morning, getting everyone bagels. Like, doing. Yeah, the bagels. But then we also know you as, of course, you and Lindsay had your little thing. So you've always, like, kind of been in some type of relationship. But, like, this is like, fun Carl. This summer is, like, so far fun Carl. Like, you just give two fucks. And I love to see it, like, so far, you and Amanda this year are like, bucket. This is who we are. And I absolutely love it. But, like, I want to know more about the Bailey Stitch. That's so fun.

[Carl Radke]

No, we. I mean, it's funny watching back the first few episodes where she, you know, she's kind of crushing up Ben, the Australian, which I think we're all crushing on Ben same. I mean, Wes and I am. We love. Ben's a. Ben's a fucking stud. And he. He's like, he's a great addition to the group and such good energy. But having the girls kind of crush on him was actually kind of new, new experience where, like, there's this other guy in the house. Everybody's like, ooh, wait, were you guys jealous?

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[Sophie Cunningham]

Be honest.

[Wes]

No, I'm dealing. I'm just in my, I've been in my own head for two years. He, he's, he can, he can, he can have fun.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

Ben, I think, was the perfect person for that. He's, he wasn't like. I don't know. He's just a good dude. And the way he handled a lot of that attention I thought was a very.

[Wes]

Yeah, he's like, shy. He's like, very shy. Like, he gets uncomfortable when girls are like, you're so hot. He like, gets red and.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Well, he said that he grew up like in a very religious, religious, religious family. So they never really talked about any of that type of stuff. So I think that that helps a little bit of like, not. Speaking of not being able to take a compliment, Ben can't take a compliment. Freaking red.

[Carl Radke]

It's hard. It's hard. But yeah, Bailey and I, you know, you'll see how the season plays out. I think it was a slower burn to get to that point, but. Oh, I, I, I think Bailey's a lot of fun. I mean, I love her oversharing and like all the information. Talking about it like, it's sweet. Like, she's been through some brutal dating stuff. And I give her that first dinner where she opened up about sweet green.

[Wes]

She got a fucking. Did you see she got a sweet green?

[Sophie Cunningham]

I saw it. But at least Carl's more like has empathetic. What is that word? Empathy.

[Carl Radke]

Empathy, yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

And then you're over there going back to Jesse.

[Carl Radke]

Like two girls crying on the first dinner.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Losers.

[Wes]

Well, I, that I was like. I was just like, oh, God.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah, I'm with west though. Like, that was. You know, it's unusual at the first dinner for someone to kind of go to that level of emotion. And I think, yeah, it was funny as hell. Looking back, I think I did tell Bailey though. I go, you're going to get a speaker in the audience.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Wes]

The shot of Carl is him doing the fake puppy dog outlet where he's

[Sophie Cunningham]

like, oh, guys, I want to come to Star House. And I'm just going to have complete crash out crying the whole time, emptying my whole story and see how you guys handle it.

[Wes]

I will, honestly.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No, guys, that is so not like me at all.

[Carl Radke]

I would never do that.

[Wes]

If you.

[Carl Radke]

If.

[Wes]

When you guys play the Liberty, if Carl and I can get courtside. Courtside Liberty Fever tickets, then you're. You got a room at the house.

[Sophie Cunningham]

What else are we supposed to be talking about here?

[Wes]

Yeah, reality.

[Carl Radke]

Bailey. The bakeout was definitely hot though. I will say it was a great thing.

[Wes]

It was good. It was hot. I can co sign that.

[Carl Radke]

It was a hot makeup.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Wait, guys, something. Is it weird, like being in the house, like when everyone's there and you guys just do stuff like that?

[Carl Radke]

Is it just like, like, I mean, we're real friends. Like, we, we. I think we just love having a good time. And I think the more we realize, like this silly, like we almost kind of egg each other on with like silly vibes or joking or being kind of ridiculous. And I think the more we spend a lot of time on camera that are off camera that you guys don't see. So we do bond. I mean, even Kyle and I and Lindsey, like the car rides. Like, you don't see all the car rides, but we really hang out in three hours of the car ride. So, like, there's just a lot we feel like. I don't know where we kind of, oh, we're all here to make a great show. Like, let's be ridiculous and weird and put it all out there.

[Wes]

The other thing though, that I've always said is, like, unlike other reality TV shows where they film scenes where it's like, here's dinner. Make stuff happen. And then you won't see each other and you won't film until, like, two days lunch. Like, we are. The second we walk in the house, it's full. Like, 50 hours of filming nonstop. And after you've done it once and you realize, like, everything I said here, like, this funny moment or whatever, also don't make it. You're not, like, trying to be performative because nothing you want to like, nothing you plan will be on the show and everything you don't plan will be on it. So, like, it's just a very. You have to just kind of let your guard down and just hang out, because otherwise you'd be exhausted.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Wait, I do have a question, though, and this is kind of for both of you. Carl, this is off the wall, so just hang tight.

[Carl Radke]

Okay, I'm hanging tight.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Do you guys kind of miss, like, Lindsay being on the show?

[Wes]

I mean, she comes back this week.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Well, I know because I know she, like, last week, they're like, oh, she doesn't have. What's the baby's name?

[Carl Radke]

Gemma.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, Gemma. She didn't have Gemma, so she's gonna come and hang out. But, like, do you kind of miss her, like, energy and just, like, being friends with her?

[Carl Radke]

Absolutely. Yes, girl. Absolutely. And you'll. You'll see on this season, I think I kind of have to face that feeling a lot more than I think I realized. You know, we were very close friends, best friends, for four years before we started dating. And once we, you know, we'd been in a relationship for less than two years all in all. And not trying to minimize that, but, like, since we've been broken up and been kind of living our own lives, like, of course, like, I miss my friendship with her. I miss some of the inside jokes. I love seeing her get along with the others. And, like, her friendships with the girls have been strong. She bonds really well with west and Kyle, and of course, I, like, see those and kind of wish I had more of that. But I think you'll see on this season, the inside of me, I'm like, I wish I want to be closer to her in some way and be friendly, but don't want to be disrespectful. And there's still some closure I think that needed to happen. And you'll see kind of at the end of the summer, her, Lindsay and I do talk, which I think was really powerful.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Well, yeah, Tell us about when she brought you your mail.

[Carl Radke]

Well, this has been going on for Several years now. I'll tell you the beginning of it. Obviously, we were in a relationship. We broke up. I attended a Christmas party maybe five months after we broke up for our company that, you know, the production company we're a part of. I show up to the. The Christmas party. Everybody writes their name on, like, hello, my name is. Puts it on your sweater or your jacket. I put my name on my shirt. I'm hanging out. It overwalks one of our producers with a bag, and it says, hello, my name is Carl's Mail. And she's like, this is for you from Lindsay. And I'm like, okay. And then the next event we went to, I think it might have been the reunion. She came into the green room in the reunion and gave me a little stack of mail. Then again, last fall, we were somewhere else, but it's been something. We. We had an apartment together. So she. It actually has been really funny because I think.

[Wes]

But the most recent one was, like, really cute.

[Carl Radke]

On my birthday, we were all together for a press thing for serious radio. And I walk into our kind of dressing room, and she was there. Everybody was singing me happy birthday. It was really sweet. She even, you know, participated. And then, like. Like a thick, like, here you go. Mail.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh, my gosh. Wait, Carl, what if this, like, brings you guys back to, like, you guys are both thriving. I'm just talking shit. And, like, the male is what brings you guys back to, like, getting married.

[Carl Radke]

That would be an unbelievable Hollywood ending to all of us. I mean, listen, I will say she looks amazing. She's.

[Sophie Cunningham]

She looks hot, dude.

[Carl Radke]

She looks hot. She looks great. And I. Kyle and I think even west or Jesse might have caught me looking at her this past summer, maybe once or twice. So.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But I mean that. But both of you guys really are. I feel like you guys are both just, like, really healthy in every aspect or trying to be healthy. Just, like, mentally, physically, emotionally, you guys are just really thriving. And that's, like, good to see. And I know that she probably loves seeing you like that, too. So, like, it.

[Carl Radke]

It's motherhood.

[Wes]

Looks really good on Lindsay, for sure.

[Carl Radke]

Well, yeah, she. I mean, I. I know her very, very well. And to see her, she's just lighter and happier and, you know, just seeing her thrive, it just makes me happy deep down. But for me, like, you know, I. We'll see how the friendship can unfold more. I mean, we're. We're cordial. At BravoCon, she. You know, it was very sweet. We had a really fun. The group at Bravocon was awesome. Like, we had a really good group. We were laughing at some of the same inside jokes. She even had some things to say to me personally. We just talked for a few minutes. So, you know, my goal is at the reunion, she unblocks me from Instagram.

[Sophie Cunningham]

You're. You're still blocked.

[Wes]

Speaking into existence manifest,

[Carl Radke]

which I understand totally. It's up to her. But I was just a manifesting. Maybe at the reunion Andy will take his finger and Lindsay's finger and go unblocked.

[Wes]

I love that.

[Carl Radke]

I'm just throwing out an idea, but no, I. I wish. I don't think people fully understand the bond like the core group of us really have. And those inside jokes and those. And this summer that you're watching, like the episode tonight, like, there's little moments of like me and Lindsay laughing at the same thing or Kyle, me and Lindsay laughing at the same thing. That makes me so happy because it

[Sophie Cunningham]

felt like that close to kissing at all.

[Carl Radke]

No. You'll see. I mean, there was a pretty large fight that occurred and she, Lindsey came in to actually calm me down and it kind of worked for some reason.

[Wes]

I figured actually that that would be the best voice of reason for you in like a super hot moment.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Honestly was.

[Wes]

I just think there's so, so many full circle things that happen when you do something like this. And like, that's one of them.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I know. But the reason I asked that is because like, you and Sierra, there's like some flirty little, like cute moments that you guys both talk about. So I want to ask him.

[Carl Radke]

With Lindsay, Sierra and I weren't engaged

[Sophie Cunningham]

though, or together for that long.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah, true. No. I know some people deep down are speculating like, oh, you guys are in much better places now. One step at a time. Just trying to get back from unblocked. But I will say it's been really. The friendliness of it all is amazing. We have so many mutual friends. Really good. We have a core group of people that there was some awkwardness obviously for a period of time. And I tried my best to be respectful and kind of allow just some space and some healing to it. But it, for me, it feels good to kind of feel like I'm maybe welcome back in the group a little bit with some of the friends, but that took some time. So I'm just glad to be where we are now. For a while it wasn't so great. But as expected.

[Sophie Cunningham]

As expected.

[Carl Radke]

Well, even like Wes, we did that panel for 92 NY and Lindsay and I were making cracks back and forth between each other that night, which felt. So it was like the highlight of the night for me. Like, it kind of like when Sierra's nice to West Wes is like.

[Wes]

I was gonna say. I get it. I get it.

[Carl Radke]

You know exactly what I mean.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

So.

[Wes]

Oh, good stuff.

[Carl Radke]

I was gonna say one last thing to Sophie. Being sober in the house, just like, something that I think is important for maybe your listeners to know. You know, Like, I. I feel very lucky that I get to still do the show. There's certainly moments where I get it. Like, looking outside, you're like, wait, this guy doesn't drink. How could he do that? But I was such a terror and a pain in the ass. Like, the only way I can be a part of the show is by not drinking.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

And I'm present. I'm balanced. But of course, like, I think the show itself, we have stupid shit that happens. People get into fights because of alcohol, But I can still be a dick and still be a jerk or still be human without alcohol. And I think people will see those moments, too, where it's like, yeah, like, you'll get drama out of me, but it's just much healthier.

[Wes]

I would like to say, though, Carl, your sobriety is much bigger than just Summer house.

[Carl Radke]

Yes, totally.

[Wes]

Like, significantly bigger, cooler. And. Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah. But I just. I. I take a lot of pride in being a part of this awesome show. And, like, I mean, Wes, you've been a massive, massive addition to what we get to do. And I feel like you brought a new energy to what we get to do. And for me to still be a part of the season 10 the way it is now, like, it's unreal that we've made it this far. I mean, my dad jokes around. We've been on TV longer than Friends and Seinfeld, which is saying crazy.

[Wes]

That's.

[Carl Radke]

Most shows don't. Most reality shows don't make it past one season. 99% of reality shows don't make it to a second season.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

And we're still kicking around, so I just feel so lucky to be able to get to do it. Sure. Am I a little bit more boring? And.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude, you're not boring. You're literally not boring. And, like, you're saying. You saying that, like, I'm still a dick. You're. Dude, you're human. Like, everyone is that way. Like, you're still human. You're. No one's perfect, so who cares?

[Carl Radke]

Well, I read too many comments, and I've been absorbing all the non. I'm the guy that I could make 100 people smile and be the happiest ever. It's the one guy goes, it wasn't that great. And I would just lose sleep all night for the one guy or the one girl.

[Sophie Cunningham]

You need to learn how to not care so much.

[Carl Radke]

I'm learning tricks.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I. I just don't get. I work with the sports psych guy. Um, and that has been literally a night and day difference for me. And I promise you that I've always had like a confidence about me that like I'm going to beat my own drum. Like, I know my end goal, I know who I want to be. And so. But I think that a lot of people can get in their heads. Like, you can question if you're doing things the right way, what your character is, all that. But I've truly mastered, I think the past. Not mastered, but pretty damn close the past like two or three years of like, this is my word and forgive me for not for. I mean little kids can't say this but like, it. Like, who gives a. Like, I literally do not care. Like I. People are gonna love me or hate me regardless of what I do, so why would I not just do not do what I want? Like, I don't want it to sound like this, but I just don't care what other people think of me. And I just, I love that it's

[Wes]

so free, natural, or is it a learned? Is that a learned.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I think I think there's a little bit of natural but like, I had to relearn how to not care so much because I'm someone who is a very like, passionate, fiery. I love people, I care about people, but I have just really mastered the art of like, I really, I don't give a fudge. And like when I am that way, I am my best self. And so I don't know, it's. There's so much.

[Carl Radke]

I could just like have like a 30 second message that plays in the morning from Sophie. Hey, I don't give a fuck.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, don't give a fuck. I promise you it is so ring and you just, you see just. It just is so much lighter. Things just open up when you literally don't care. Because honestly, these people don't know you. The people commenting, the people who are praising you and like on you. They don't know really anything about you. They know you guys as like Summer house Carl, Summer house West. Like, they don't truly know you.

[Carl Radke]

So like, I think totally and I part of. I think what it's it's had me or it's allowed me to like I had to be honest. Like I'm a people pleaser which is why I feel this way.

[Sophie Cunningham]

And yeah.

[Carl Radke]

You know I. I've had to do a lot of therapy and work on that. I'm getting better. But you know I've after like going through a pretty public difficult breakup.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

There was something that kind of within me. Like I felt like for a long like literally everybody hated me.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

And you know there's. I've had to do a lot of healing and work on that but you know I had a. It was a pretty rough public thing that went on and it took me probably a good year to like finally heal and feel like myself. Which is what you're watching on the current season. Like yeah. In the mix and like I finally felt like myself again.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

But yeah, I need to bottle up some of that Sophie Cunningham fuck you

[Sophie Cunningham]

energy because I think you also like both of you guys and like everyone who is in reality are just like in a platform in the public eye in general. You have to remember like that life is not normal. Like other people go through everything that we go through but it's just not highlighted and like every little thing like if everyone's life was highlighted everyone would be getting so much. You know what I mean? So like totally. Who cares? Like people love you guys but you know you're gonna get for it too. So just. Man, who cares it.

[Carl Radke]

We need Sophie on Summer House.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No you don't.

[Carl Radke]

See Season 5 we had a basketball hoop and I we crushed pig and horse. I played. We had a good time out there.

[Wes]

I love that we had a cool basketball hoop this year. I'm waiting for that that episode.

[Carl Radke]

Oh we had some epic.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I'm hoping to get make it one weekend when we play New York or if I have an off to like come up and hang out. It'd be so fun.

[Carl Radke]

I think you gotta come. Yeah, we would love love to see you.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, it'd be good.

[Wes]

Hey Carl, I love you so much. Thanks for hanging through the the audio difficulties in the beginning.

[Carl Radke]

No, thanks for putting up with me. I I'm a huge fan of you guys. I Wes told me you guys were doing this. I'm been a big support. I hope you guys see I like a lot of your show me posts and things. I'm a big fan of what you guys are doing. I think Wes is incredibly talented. He is a shining a shining light and I'll guys you are too sometimes. Sometimes No, I think you're. You're awesome. I'm a huge fan, so I appreciate your support.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I appreciate it.

[Carl Radke]

I can't wait to be in real life and I'll show you my editing skills.

[Sophie Cunningham]

There you go. I love it. I love it.

[Wes]

Show me something podcast episode 34 with Carl Radke, the best guy to ever live. Carl, we're so thankful.

[Carl Radke]

Love you. Thank you, guys. I love you guys.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Good work, Carl.

[Wes]

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[Carl Radke]

Oh, yeah, we love Arby's.

[Sophie Cunningham]

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[Wes]

Yeah, the meat and three box is going for 7.99, so tell them what they're working with.

[Sophie Cunningham]

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[Wes]

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[Sophie Cunningham]

I'm just saying that dessert might quietly steal the whole show.

[Wes]

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[Sophie Cunningham]

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[Wes]

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[Sophie Cunningham]

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[Wes]

Whoa. My hot girl of the week was. I think you just missed her, Soph.

[Carl Radke]

But.

[Wes]

And, Kev, correct me if I'm wrong, it was Miranda, the waitress at Cooks and Soldiers, it's called. She was pointing big old pours. Knew the menu, knew geography was so nice. I like the whole dinner. It was me, Kev, some of the RB's team, some of the volume team Hampton. And the whole time, we just couldn't stop talking about how incredible the service was. And I know my tone sounds satirical, but I am, like, fully not. It was such a lovely, lovely dinner, and she. She was phenomenal.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Did you get her number?

[Wes]

No, I wasn't even. I wasn't even trying to. I wasn't even trying to go for that, really. Oh, hey.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Did she part with one hand? One hand?

[Wes]

Like, yeah, Miranda deserves Hakar Louie because she's incredible, and she was so nice. Oh, and she brought us a little. We took. She brought us a little complimentary shot. Yeah. Queen.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I Like that. Okay, well, my hot girl of the week is actually an animal for the first time ever.

[Wes]

Are you gonna say who I think an animal? Well, I thought you were gonna say the monkey who hugged punch.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh, no, I should have, but I'm. It's my dead horse. Oh,

[Wes]

Guys, no, that's serious.

[Sophie Cunningham]

It is serious.

[Carl Radke]

So. I know. Guys are the worst.

[Sophie Cunningham]

It's funny because she was a funny, good, light hearted, beautiful horse, but my. My very first horse, her name was Be. She was almost 36 years old. She actually passed away this morning. Yeah.

[Wes]

What is going on?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh, four. One out, four. No, she was. Seriously, I'll send you a picture of her because she was beautiful and I'm not kidding. She was like the best horse you could throw anyone on her. All of our friends and family met her. I've had her since I was like, born. Like, I'm 29. We've had her since, I mean, she was 36 years old. So I want to shout out our beautiful baby.

[Wes]

So, yeah, sending love to Paula.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, yeah. Mom is really, you know, kind of been out of shape, out of it. But she, she lived a great life, you know, she was a happy horse. So, yeah, yeah, it was her time.

[Wes]

Yeah. Putting a horse down. Sad, man. Because they're like. Well, I don't mean. I don't want to get into that. Never mind. I was gonna say they're big, they're standing up. It's just. It's really sad. And they're so pretty. It's like, it's like putting down like a supermodel. It's just weird.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But honestly, on a real note, a lot of things that you don't think about is like, horses are massive and like, you have to dig some big ass holes, like, and then you have to. A lift. Lift forecast or forklift.

[Wes]

My dad used a forklift.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, a forklift to like grab him or grab her and then like carry like it. It's just a whole process. So it is actually like kind of sad, you know?

[Wes]

No, it is, it is.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. So, yeah, she was good. We love her.

[Wes]

No, not to end on that note, guys, but you know what? While I'm here, shout out nascar. Also, Arby's in NASCAR and our boy Carson Garson. Turn me up, Carson. Yeah, miss you.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Miss you.

[Wes]

See you next time.

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