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Lexi Hall
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Julian Edelman
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Sophie
Why? What's wrong?
Julian Edelman
Nothing's wrong. You look like a guy running on three hours of sleep and vibes.
Sophie
Okay, yeah, I'm tired, kind of cranky, and very thirsty.
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Sophie
So what's the play?
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Sophie
Okay, but where's the proof?
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Sophie
Well, take a Look at me now. Liquid IV is officially part of my daily hydration routine. Pass the firecracker. Popsicle flavor.
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Sophie
It's episode two.
Gronk
Episode two right here in indie Live from the bracket.
Sophie
Games from coast to coast. All the crazy twists and turns and unforgettable stories captured right behind us.
Gronk
And we have a super, super cool guest today. She was my teammate from last year year, one of my best girls, Lexi Hole.
Lexi Hall
It was a very unique final four
Sophie
that is such wild times.
Lexi Hall
The roof blew off.
Gronk
You did cry.
Sophie
Let's head up to the studio and check it out. How's my hair look?
Lexi Hall
Great.
Sophie
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Gronk
So good.
Sophie
Has a good night's sleep helped you maintain your game day routine while on the road? Westin part of Myriott Bonvoy where game day checks in. I'll start this off.
Gronk
I love this.
Sophie
Look at Lexi and I's chemistry right off the jump.
Lexi Hall
Unplanned.
Sophie
Unplanned. Pure. Just a nice mocha brown and denim.
Lexi Hall
Does that make us best friends? Yeah.
Sophie
Sit out.
Lexi Hall
I know.
Gronk
But the bad thing is I'm not kidding. When I walked out of my closet, I had that same exact thing on today. I could have been a triplet.
Lexi Hall
But that's tragic.
Gronk
You're used to being a twin, so
Lexi Hall
now that is true. Are you Lindsay, identical twin.
Sophie
Whoa.
Lexi Hall
She's going to be jealous.
Gronk
She's going to be jealous.
Sophie
Is she a Hooper.
Lexi Hall
Yeah. We played together at Stanford.
Sophie
Whoa.
Lexi Hall
Yeah. But now she just is a pick up at the Y. She's come to games and people go up to her during the game and ask, like, why aren't you on the court? Can I get a picture?
Sophie
No way. Sometimes people with twins either, like, not, like, steer clear of each other, but, like, very much. Separate identities or best friends.
Lexi Hall
Same friends, same teams, all of it.
Gronk
All right, I want to get in because I'm sure everyone knows, but if you don't. Our guest today is a professional basketball player in the wnba. You know her as a guard for the Indiana Fever, where she's built a reputation as one of the league's toughest defenders, which is so on cue, I've had to play against it. And then also being on the team now we're like, Lexi, you take it. Before turning pro, she started at Stanford University. Whoop, whoops. Helping lead the Cardinals to a national championship in 2021 with her twin, Lacey. And finishing her career as one of the most decorated players in program history, which that. If you guys know anything about Stanford basketball, that is a huge accomplishment. Along the way, she earned multiple all pack 12 honors and became known for her versatility in leadership. High basketball iq. And I will say, I feel like. Were you on, like, any of the academic. Yeah, yeah, this isn't on there, but just knowing you, I feel like you should.
Lexi Hall
Most of them, humble queen.
Gronk
Well, we're going to get into it, but she's, like, starting her own business and everything. But everyone, please welcome Lexi Hall.
Lexi Hall
This is good. I'm so happy to be here. This is so fun.
Gronk
I know this has been a long time, like, coming, like, we've been like, we need Lexi on here so bad. And so it, like, finally works out. March Madness.
Sophie
I've been pitching it for weeks, obviously,
Lexi Hall
and it's here figured out.
Gronk
No, I feel like our first episode, you're like, hey, can we get Lexi?
Lexi Hall
I'm like, dude, she's getting married in November.
Sophie
Jill. No, I clocked that. I clocked it. Are you gonna tell her how to say Cardinal? Not the Cardinals?
Lexi Hall
No, I was gonna say. I was gonna interrupt you, but I didn't really want to. It's Cardinal. There's no s. I tried. I tried.
Sophie
Did you play Montana State in the first round ever?
Lexi Hall
I feel like we did.
Sophie
And someone on your team dunked that game.
Lexi Hall
Fran. Yes. Wow.
Sophie
Good morning. I watched. I obviously watched that game. And so I've. I watched one of your college games because I'm running.
Lexi Hall
I'm on the court when that happened. Craziest moment.
Gronk
Were you watching her or Lacy? Because you didn't know they were twins.
Lexi Hall
True.
Sophie
Good call.
Gronk
Thanks.
Sophie
Wouldn't have even thought of it.
Lexi Hall
Well, his reality is the glasses actually work.
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Sophie
So Montana State, obviously. Sophie, some geography for you. Close to the state of Washington, where Lexi's from.
Gronk
Thanks.
Sophie
In Spokane. So a lot of the girls I went to college with are all Spokane girls. Love that Gonzaga prep. And is there one called Mead?
Lexi Hall
Yes.
Sophie
Okay. Yeah.
Lexi Hall
Wow. It's like you're a Spokane native.
Sophie
I've done Dick's drive in for burgers before.
Lexi Hall
He's actually classic. A downtown classic.
Sophie
Because I went to Lindsey Stockton's wedding in Spokane.
Lexi Hall
Wow.
Gronk
Do you know who. How old is she?
Lexi Hall
She's older. Okay, got you. Laura's closer to mine.
Sophie
John Stockton's daughters are all played in Spokane, too. It's like such a basketball city.
Lexi Hall
It is. Have you ever heard of Hoopfest?
Sophie
Yeah. Three on three outside.
Lexi Hall
Yep. Biggest three on three tournament in the world.
Gronk
Did you ever play in it?
Lexi Hall
Yeah, up until like seventh grade. But our A, it's on like the concrete, so it's kind of dangerous. But it was so fun growing up.
Sophie
Did you ever consider Gonzaga or was it.
Lexi Hall
Yeah, that was a hard no because I grew up going to their camps and obviously going up. Grew up going to games and stuff and love their coaching staff, so it was hard, but it was too close to home for me.
Gronk
Was it always west coast schools?
Lexi Hall
Yeah.
Gronk
Yeah.
Sophie
Was it anywhere? Like, did you visit anywhere else besides Stanford?
Lexi Hall
Yeah, visited like a lot of the public schools, but when Stanford offered, it was like for both my sister and I. Yeah.
Gronk
Because it is March Madness. You guys clearly won a national championship. But, like, why? Why?
Lexi Hall
Stanford school was always number one. Okay. Like, my parents instilled in that. That into us really young, but.
Gronk
And what did you major in?
Lexi Hall
Management science and engineering. Okay. When I visited school, the campus is like the beautiful, most beautiful place on earth. I think we took that for granted during our time there. Every time I go back, I'm like, this is so beautiful. And the weather's always good. And then the coaching staff, like Tara Vanderveer. So there are so many things that worked.
Gronk
Do you know that actually when we, I think, made it Sweet 16, almost Elite 8, we actually played in Stanford. So we were supposed to play you guys, but we freaking lost. Oh, yeah.
Lexi Hall
Wait, that would have been so fun.
Gronk
I know. I think you. I was my senior year. So you would have been a freshman.
Lexi Hall
Yeah.
Gronk
Or so yeah, yeah.
Sophie
The women's tournament is home. It's home games, Right. For a round or two, and then it gets into the first two.
Gronk
Yeah, yeah.
Lexi Hall
Are home.
Sophie
And then you get into, like, cities where you travel, regionals.
Lexi Hall
It's such an advantage, especially for girls. I feel like.
Sophie
Yeah.
Lexi Hall
Having a home game is huge.
Sophie
You feel like home field manage with women's basketball is better.
Gronk
I feel like it's. I feel like that's with any sport, though, if you really think about it, like, if you have a great crowd, which, if you're good, you have a
Lexi Hall
good hosting, you have a good crowd,
Gronk
so it just makes sense.
Sophie
Yeah.
Gronk
Yeah.
Lexi Hall
I also just think, like, girls versus guys basketball, the 16 versus the 1 seed is, like, a big difference. So I also don't know if, like, they could have played anywhere and likely the 1 seed's gonna win.
Gronk
Wait, when you think back to, like, your college days, did you guys charter
Lexi Hall
some games after Covid, we chartered all the time, which, like, it should have been that way.
Gronk
Well, yeah, I'm surprised that you guys didn't. I feel like we chartered since my freshman year to senior year.
Lexi Hall
We would fly commercial probably half the time.
Gronk
Huh.
Sophie
And just walking around the airport, just tall and in our matching. In your matching sweatsuits? Yeah.
Gronk
You knew we were coming. I love it. Well, when you think about, like, your college days, I know, like, when I'm with my teammates and you just had kind of a reunion. You were just, like, just back there after season. Right. And, like, you reminisce on all the good times. What are. What do you miss the most about, like, the traveling and the nights in the hotel? Like, what. What comes to mind?
Lexi Hall
I feel like you are with each other 24 7. Like, once you get to the WNBA, like, people kind of do their own thing. People have lives and families and kids and, like, all the things. But when you're in college, that's all you have. And so it's so fun to go get every meal together and, like, you can go and you're sitting in a room and you're working on homework together, because that's something else you have to focus on. Maybe that's saying that's so huge. Maybe it's just the standard halls.
Sophie
Sophie's like, wait, you guys did homework?
Gronk
You guys went to school?
Lexi Hall
No, but did you guys have, like,
Gronk
mandatory study halls and stuff like that on the road?
Sophie
If you had good enough grades, you could get out of it by sophomore year, but you're in it as a freshman, and then you had to Stay.
Gronk
I think on the. On the road, we. Everyone had to be there. Like, it didn't matter your grades.
Lexi Hall
We did not have men. People just.
Gronk
Oh, you just did it. Oh, that's nice.
Sophie
Also, football team is so much bigger that you can never, like, study together.
Lexi Hall
Were you friends with everyone on your team? If it's that big?
Sophie
This is a really interesting question. I mean, yeah, but you certainly have pockets of people that you're closer with. You'll always be closest to your position group because that's who you have film in, like every meeting ever with. Originally the in state kids versus out of state kids kind of all stuck together because NZ kids know each other. Then everyone who's new kind of really.
Gronk
See, I feel like we intermingled so
Lexi Hall
well because there's only like 15 of you. Like, everyone was close.
Sophie
Yeah. Football is weird, though, because you, like, you show up with 20 kids a class, like for fall camp, and you can't be best friends with everybody.
Gronk
Would you like that? I don't know.
Lexi Hall
I mean, it's so different. I feel like you would just find your best friends. You find your, like, group of 15 or whatever.
Gronk
But, like, think about how close and I get it. Size, but, like, how close knit we are with. It doesn't matter who's on the court. Like, you're. You have a chemistry. You have a.
Sophie
You guys had roommates in college, obviously, right when you traveled. Not anymore.
Gronk
Or actually, fun fact.
Sophie
Have you guys. Have you guys ever room together?
Lexi Hall
No.
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Sophie
On the road. I'm staying on the road. Yeah.
Gronk
But no, me and Lexi just.
Lexi Hall
We choose to stay.
Sophie
Put our luggage on one bed and then we stay in the other. Queen.
Gronk
We're dependent on each other. My first three, four years in the league, we actually had a share. Yeah.
Lexi Hall
That's so crazy.
Gronk
Which is weird because people had significant others, people had kids.
Sophie
That is so interesting.
Lexi Hall
What's crazier is that that was only like a few years ago.
Sophie
So you're drafted to Indiana. So you've only played in the WNBA here.
Gronk
She's a loyalist.
Sophie
Yeah, Loyalist.
Lexi Hall
Yeah. Loyalist. People think I'm from the Midwest now, and I'm like, no, but you see, west coast.
Gronk
You give total Midwest vibes, though.
Sophie
Yeah.
Gronk
Just like the friendly, the lake, the sun. Just like who you are to the Cor. We have such a special guest, and a lot of people, we don't get national championships on here or national champions. Take us through the mindset of going to, like, the Final Four. Traveling fans, maybe the pressure a little bit, and then like, just making it all the way.
Sophie
What city was your Final Four in?
Lexi Hall
San Antonio.
Sophie
Okay.
Lexi Hall
But it was a very unique Final Four because we were in San Antonio. It was Covid year, so we were in San antonio for, like, 30 days straight. 30 days in a hotel. We couldn't see anyone. They had, like, a path outside that you could go on a walk. No, but you couldn't go. You couldn't. Yeah, we were in a bubble. We were getting tested two times a day. Still. It was a very unique experience. But still, I think that honestly made us winning, like, that much more amazing because I remember after we won, we finally got to go into this huge conference room, and our family's there for the first time in, like, eight months because we couldn't be around them.
Gronk
Could they be in the arena when you played?
Lexi Hall
Yes. Only in. Only in San Antonio. And we. So there was, like, cutouts. I had Libby a cutout. Will was a cutout. Like, it was really cute, but there was, like, hardly anybody there, and they had to sit four seats apart.
Sophie
That is such wild times.
Lexi Hall
But still. Still go to the national championship. Can't take that away. No.
Gronk
A th percent.
Lexi Hall
But the basketball part's still the same, obviously.
Sophie
Was that your senior year?
Lexi Hall
Junior year. Senior year we made it to the Final Four in Minneapolis, which finally got a play in front of people that would have been a real crowd against Yukon.
Sophie
Did you beat uconn your junior year to win, or did someone else.
Lexi Hall
No, I don't. I don't think we played UConn that year. We played Arizona in the championship. That was, like, our fourth time playing them.
Gronk
But the. But that was the South Carolina.
Lexi Hall
Yes, that was in the Final Four. Yeah. Yeah. AB. She said we still talk about that game.
Gronk
Oh, really? Do you guys really? So, Ab. Aliyah Boston. She's our teammate.
Sophie
Yeah, yeah.
Gronk
But I didn't know you guys still talk about.
Lexi Hall
Yeah, I mean, it's like, they went on to win the next year or whatever, but, like, it's. Yeah, it's fine. And then Aerie, too. I know she was in the championship game, so it's just. It's funny to reminisce, play with.
Sophie
Was it. I'm recalling all of this from the first round game that I watched.
Lexi Hall
This is so a lot. I don't even know if I remember
Sophie
NFL player's sister on your team.
Lexi Hall
Anna Wilson.
Sophie
Russell Wilson sister.
Lexi Hall
Yes. She's the best.
Sophie
Yeah.
Lexi Hall
Yeah.
Gronk
Where is she at now?
Lexi Hall
Living in la. Yeah. Yeah. Thriving.
Gronk
Wait, who's the one who dunked? Fran.
Lexi Hall
Fran Where.
Gronk
Where is she?
Lexi Hall
She's in the bay still.
Gronk
Oh, really?
Lexi Hall
Around Stanford? No. Not playing.
Sophie
I remember being like, I hope Montana City can just, like, hang for a little bit. Like, all those games. Every team hangs for, like, the. A little bit in the first half, and then you guys ran away with it, and right when you guys went on a run, she dunked, and I was like, you guys can have it.
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Lexi Hall
Night. It was. It was crazy. Yeah. Like, the tournament. Yeah.
Sophie
That's sick.
Gronk
During that run, how did, like, hotels make you, like, how did it feel being in that? Did they make it homey?
Lexi Hall
Well, in San Antonio, they, like, decorated all the walls, and they made it. They made it cute, but I think they do that any all the time for the final four. But, yeah, it was, like, it fe felt special still.
Gronk
Your sister, though, didn't win any national championship. I played with my sister in college, and now she's, like, something that is so cool.
Lexi Hall
That's, like, everyone that went through the COVID year playing basketball, like, you're away from your family, and it's so hard, and you're homesick and, like, having her there. And we also live together, y. So it felt like a little bit like home.
Gronk
That's good.
Lexi Hall
At the same time, so.
Sophie
Yeah. I didn't even think both of you got to play with your sisters and golf.
Gronk
Mizzou actually had three sets of sisters on the team my freshman year. Like, it was insane. But there's nothing like being with your
Lexi Hall
sister like having a twin. And we. We come into the room and we think the same thing, and, like, we pick up cues, and we have the same reaction. So to be in practice and be able to look at her and be like, oh, this is so annoying her. This is so hard. It's nice to have someone you, like,
Sophie
didn't probably, like, you only know basketball with your sister.
Lexi Hall
Yeah.
Sophie
Like, I'm sure you guys played on the same teams your whole life.
Lexi Hall
Yeah.
Sophie
And, like, learned to love the sport together.
Lexi Hall
For sure.
Sophie
Your parents hoovers, too?
Lexi Hall
My dad played in college.
Sophie
Yeah.
Lexi Hall
And he's also a twin dude.
Gronk
She has some of the best parents. They're fun.
Lexi Hall
They're a good time.
Sophie
Mom Random was talking to my parents over Christmas. They were. I have a little brother. They were gonna go for three, but my mom's dad's a twin, and my mom. My mom had a dream that she had twins. My dad said, done. I don't want four.
Gronk
Lindsay. One of us are supposed to. It's like, in our. It's our generation.
Lexi Hall
I Have twins.
Sophie
You do?
Lexi Hall
Yes.
Gronk
How many kids do you want?
Lexi Hall
3. I want a boy and a girl twin and then there can be anything. Okay. I think we're gonna get like triple into that.
Gronk
I know. Oh my gosh. Maybe not in college, but like after a long season when you just like ready for a break kind of. Where's like your perfect like vacation spot?
Lexi Hall
Honestly, anywhere with like a beach or like, like being by the water, on the water, in the sun.
Sophie
Sophie like she acts like she's this big beach girl, but doesn't love sand. Love sand.
Lexi Hall
I get that.
Sophie
I love a lake. The sun is your. Is part of your personality.
Lexi Hall
I am 100% happier with the tan.
Sophie
Yeah.
Lexi Hall
With a little bit of a tan and my confident.
Gronk
Like when I, when I pale, I'm like walking like this and I'm like, what's up everybody?
Sophie
Okay. You know what's actually so funny? I don't even think we've talked about on this podcast is when I think it was you two posted like you guys were like tanning in some city. You guys are playing basketball. Caitlin commented like, do you guys even play basketball or like focus on basketball.
Gronk
So when you travel to different cities, what is your go to meal or like what's your favorite thing to go out and try to like find?
Lexi Hall
Honestly, like anything like finding like the high rated places that people are talking about in that city. Like I love sushi. So somewhere by the water I always try to get like sushi or something nice Italian steak. Like really anything.
Gronk
I do not know how your body is like this, but you eat candy and ice cream.
Lexi Hall
I'm at the sweet school.
Gronk
Like no.
Lexi Hall
My God. Wow. I can't go to bed without dessert.
Sophie
So it's. That's actually a really interesting point. Some people and I think it's the way like did you grow up in a, in a dessert household?
Lexi Hall
Yes.
Sophie
Okay. I think when you're little, if you eat sweets like after dinner until the day you die, you will like crave sugar after dinner. Cuz my dad is that way. But my brother and I aren't really my dad, like, can't not have like brownies after dinner. But my brother and I don't crave it.
Lexi Hall
I got sent to the principal's office in middle school for having candy at breakfast.
Sophie
Have you do you ever like go looking for ice cream spots in different cities or anything?
Lexi Hall
Yes.
Gronk
And cookies.
Lexi Hall
Like literally. I. I will be like, let's go. We need to get something literally.
Gronk
Or she'll like send in the group text like hey, getting insomnia. Who wants to go? Who wants cookies?
Sophie
Does anywhere stick out?
Lexi Hall
There's just too many good places recently at Unrivaled. There's. We stay in Doral and there's this ice cream place.
Sophie
This can be for both of you when you are on the road. What's something about a hotel or wherever you're staying that makes you feel right at home? Like, you know it's going to be. You know it's gonna be a good night.
Lexi Hall
I feel like the bed.
Gronk
Yeah.
Lexi Hall
You can tell if it's like a comfy, soft bed and like the comforter.
Gronk
Yes. And a good, like the pillows. Just like that whole. Just hopping into bed and if you're like.
Lexi Hall
And blackout. If. If there's like, electric blackout curtains.
Sophie
Has your time in Indianapolis, like, been special? Like, having talked to Sophie about the different, I guess, teams and communities in the wnba, there's a pretty wide spectrum on, like, how special some of them are. Everything she tells me about playing here is, like, incredible. It is great fan support. The community loves you guys. What's your time in Indy been like?
Gronk
It's.
Lexi Hall
I mean, it's grown so much. Like, my rookie year, we probably had a couple thousand people coming to games. We won five games that whole year.
Gronk
I think that's doing it justice, too.
Lexi Hall
It might be. It might be, but it's like, that's hard. I think, like, once you start winning and once more people start showing up, like, your experience changes completely. So the last couple years have been a full 180. Like, it's. It. We've changed. People are showing up. People know about the fever. Like, if we were to be walking in the airport, like, the story I just said that would never happen today, so it's been awesome.
Sophie
Do you almost cherish it more because you got to be here when things were clearly not as special?
Lexi Hall
I think, like, it gives you perspective on what it could be like.
Sophie
Right.
Lexi Hall
And when you see it and you actually have fun doing it, and you love coming to the gym every day and you love the staff that's there and you love your teammates. Like, it's important to be, like, very grateful. And I. I do feel grateful to be here.
Gronk
And I think Lex and I are a lot alike because we are very much do the dirty work and, like, the energy players. And so when you do have a fan base, like the Fever, it just. It makes it so much easier because they appreciate.
Lexi Hall
They see it. They see you. Yeah.
Gronk
And like, you. You have Kelsey Mitchell, you have Aaliyah, you Have Caitlyn that of course they're gonna go do their thing. But when you have players that are gonna go take the charge, like, you're just so tough and they're just like, people appreciate it. And when you have sold out crowds everywhere you go, it's just appreciated. It feels good as players. You talked about in the intro that, like, you are inspiring the next generation where you come from around the country with the eyes that you have on you, like, what is something that you cherish or like, gives you chills when you think about you're still early in your career, but like your career overall.
Lexi Hall
I think it's just really cool to see, to be at games and obviously, like, you have the Caitlyns and the Ilias and the Kelsey's and you see their jerseys in the stands. Then when you see like a 10 out there, yeah, like, it's so special because people, like, are watching and supporting and growing up, I didn't have someone in the W that I saw myself as or like, that I. I wanted to reach for. And I feel like now with the social media and just even like TV and the accessibility for people, like, they see us and they can actually have these dreams so much earlier. And to be one of those people is really special.
Sophie
I think it's really cool to watch all types of people ask you for pictures or to say hi, but when you see a little girl come up to you and you can just clearly see yourself, what they see in you and how cool that is, that's been a fun part of getting to be around you more, is seeing little girls look up to you guys. It's so dope.
Lexi Hall
It's cool also, because it's not just little girls now. It's little boys too. Like, it's insane.
Gronk
Well, I think that's what's really cool and unique about the WNBA is that we are so diverse amongst our league that every kid, boy or girl, they can look at the TV and watch someone play and, like, find themselves in one of the players playing. It's funny because when we watch film together, sometimes we can't tell each other apart. Oh, if someone messes up, it's like, oh, that was Lexi. You know what I mean? And so we can't even tell each other apart.
Lexi Hall
We're sprinting in our hair. Hair looks like it's hard.
Gronk
Are those my shoes or those Lexi shoes?
Lexi Hall
That was the same way in college. It was Lacy, wasn't me.
Sophie
College basketball has always been bigger than the games themselves. What part of the culture around the sport stands out to you guys the most.
Gronk
Something that I love about the culture is like, I love the rivalries.
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Sophie
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Gronk
And I love that you can actually
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Gronk
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Sophie
And the details it picks up are wild. Between the motion alerts and the low light quality, you're not guessing what's going on. It just tells you.
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Sophie
And if you want to go even bigger, Ring's got 4K cameras and doorbells with retinal vision. So you can zoom in and keep all those details. Super cris.
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Sophie
Exactly. It just fits into your day and makes things feel handled.
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Lexi Hall
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Gronk
Like I love, I love when people go back and forth. Like sometimes it can get a little spicy. But like that's what makes college sports so fun to me. And I love a die hard fan.
Sophie
Like the kids crying on TV or
Lexi Hall
people's face painted and stuff. It's so cute.
Gronk
Or the, the fans that their team hasn't made it ever and they make it far and they're just like crying because you know what I mean? Like that is like.
Lexi Hall
Or they find they won their, their league championship and it's their first time in the NCAA tournament. Like it's so special. And then you get a follow.
Gronk
It's just like the chills. Like I, I love that stuff. I love that type of sports.
Sophie
My answer would have been small schools and Cinderella's winning. Obviously. As someone who underdog who went to a school, I yeah. Like you always like I love Selection Sunday.
Gronk
Just wait, you did cry when, when the football team won.
Sophie
Yeah, of course.
Gronk
He's a doctor fan.
Sophie
Yeah. I also, all three of us went to one school. I think the weirdest thing now is all these kids when they're 27 and at work or a party or whatever and someone says where'd you go to school? Like what do they say?
Gronk
I'm still playing the four Schools.
Sophie
We had a quarterback went to five, it was like his fifth. I was like, why?
Lexi Hall
No allegiance, no sad.
Gronk
Yeah. What would be yours?
Lexi Hall
I feel like I like the storylines of the of like the teams that have been together for four years and it's their senior's last chance at like finally getting a championship for their school.
Gronk
Okay, I have a question for us and all of us can answer this. What would be like your ideal travel day in your ideal city to go play in a way game our biggest
Sophie
rival, University of Montana. Then like Saturdays when you play arrival. There's nothing like it get out and
Lexi Hall
you get booed because it's like this lead up to the central.
Sophie
Yeah. I'd say in a way game against a rival.
Gronk
But what like, what was your game day routine? Did you guys like get up? Do you guys have walk through or
Sophie
like walk through at the hotel? You do breakfast, hotel walkthrough.
Gronk
Wait, is walking football though? Like do your place. Like what do you do?
Lexi Hall
Okay. Only with your like small group. Like.
Sophie
No, you would do like put small position and then do it one time. Yeah, that's perfect. That's what a walker is. Body slam. Night games actually are the weirdest because you just kind of sit in your hotel all day and like it get. You get like a little bit antsy. You have a few meetings, but I don't know what you guys see.
Gronk
We're vice versa kind of. I feel like we're used to playing. You have to be at like peak around 7 so like day games. Like I gotta get up early, you know, like.
Lexi Hall
But I do like day games because then you don't have shoot around. Yeah, I don't need, I don't want shoot around.
Sophie
You must play through the week though a lot. Right. So that's never gonna be one o' cl.
Lexi Hall
I can clip that, send it to people.
Gronk
Wait, tell me about your. Your ideal.
Lexi Hall
My ideal would be we get in like late ish the night before. Time for dinner.
Gronk
Yep.
Lexi Hall
Like a nice dinner. I like to go to get like try a new place.
Sophie
Yeah.
Gronk
Wait, did you guys not have like team dinners at restaurants?
Lexi Hall
I guess college. Oh, yes.
Gronk
You can mix the 2W and college for sure.
Lexi Hall
Tara was like very much routine. So game day we would have shoot around and then everyone would come back. We'd have lunch maybe. And then four hours before the game we have pregame meal. Same meal every time.
Sophie
Pasta.
Lexi Hall
I've had pasta.
Gronk
Yeah.
Lexi Hall
With marinara sauce. Salmon.
Sophie
Yeah.
Lexi Hall
And maybe some like steamed broccoli. And then rolls all four years. Like Every day.
Gronk
But who would you like? Who was like your favorite team or like favorite city to play in college?
Lexi Hall
Washington State or Washington just because it's home. Like when we played at wsu, my family would come down, bring the dogs.
Sophie
Oh yeah.
Lexi Hall
And I had a lot of people there and also they didn't get a lot of fans. So it was majority of my family and friends that would like.
Sophie
Oh, that's so fun.
Lexi Hall
It was so fun.
Sophie
We played in Pullman my senior year too actually.
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Sophie
Which was tight. There's like a lot of schools in that little pocket.
Lexi Hall
Was their team good that when you played?
Sophie
Not special. It was week one. So you never really like know how good anyone is.
Gronk
I was nowhere near actually. We had, we played like.
Sophie
Well, you're not big. You never played in the golf.
Gronk
No, my first year, my freshman year, it was like the second year with the sec. Yeah, but it was, I mean I enjoyed the sec.
Sophie
Favorite city, town slash town.
Gronk
I do think though, just like the history behind it. I think like playing Tennessee, it was just so cool.
Sophie
That's dope.
Gronk
Yeah, that was fun. But South Carolina had a great crowd.
Sophie
I do think basketball would be. I, I never envied the basketball players. Because you miss Christmas or you miss Thanksgiving, Christmas and spring break.
Gronk
Can we just say basketball is probably the worst sport to choose because it is both seasons, but the spring best
Lexi Hall
time of the year because you're on like 12 hour week instead of 20 hour week.
Gronk
No, a thousand percent. But I'm just saying like, you know, like they're still, it's like they had spring, they had all the entire time. And I'm like, oh, we still.
Lexi Hall
Yeah, still here.
Gronk
You can talk about college, you can talk about wnba, but like what is something doesn't matter if you're, you're here at home, if you're on the road, that like pre game, post game, that like keeps you grounded or keeps you in routine. Because I think that is something like as much as you're not routine, you also have to be routine and so kind of take us through what keeps you grounded.
Lexi Hall
I think just doing like having a routine is the most important part. Like you can, whatever you want to do, just do it consistently. Because I feel like by that time of the season, like sure the pressure is higher and like you really only have this one chance at winning a game or you're done. But focusing like you've built these habits over the course of tens of games. But like it's, that's the time to rely on those habits. And like not change up what you've been doing because what you've been doing has worked. So for me, that's like making sure I get my pregame nap. Making sure. Like I watched film the night before. Making sure I'm locked in during shoot around. Like just the little things that you've done so much like don't change it.
Gronk
Do you still use that and do that in the W. And so that
Sophie
can be pre game, like fully basketball related. But also night before, like brush your teeth, take a shower, get in. Really?
Gronk
Are you that I'm not that in the cd?
Sophie
No, no, no. I'm saying there. It can. It can be vague. They say baseball players are the worst first.
Gronk
Really?
Sophie
With. Yeah, with routine.
Gronk
Can you think about how you know Will like her. Her fiance was drafted and whatnot. But like, they play so many games too. Like, that gets.
Lexi Hall
I've sat through so many games. I'm just six days a week.
Sophie
Is your pregame playlist. Bangers.
Lexi Hall
I don't really like, listen to a lot of music.
Sophie
I feel like your Instagram song choice. I'm always like, Lexi's throwing hitters on that's.
Gronk
Well, is it. What?
Lexi Hall
That's Will.
Sophie
He chooses the songs.
Lexi Hall
Stop it.
Sophie
I'm so glad and lied to.
Gronk
I thought that was you.
Lexi Hall
He's gonna be so happy.
Gronk
Are you kidding? I thought that was you.
Lexi Hall
No, he helps me on my captions and my. He's my social media manager.
Gronk
Stop it.
Lexi Hall
Not really. But like, thank you.
Sophie
Of course. Of course.
Gronk
We have a segment we're gonna do, so let's grab these cards. Wes, game time. Yeah. Not for you.
Sophie
This is.
Gronk
You're. You're on the hot seat, sister. So this is called pack it or pass it.
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Sophie
Okay.
Gronk
Yes. We're going to throw you every travel essential that we can think of. And you tell us from the opinion of a professional athlete what has to come with you and what you're leaving at home.
Lexi Hall
Got it. Okay.
Gronk
West, you can go first.
Sophie
Portable phone charger packet. Sometimes it takes up space, but little one. Yeah. Yeah, baby.
Lexi Hall
Powerful one.
Gronk
I'm gonna go white noise machine.
Lexi Hall
Pass it.
Sophie
Neck pillow.
Lexi Hall
Pass it.
Sophie
Some people are loyal to neck pillows, though.
Lexi Hall
I can sleep just about anywhere.
Sophie
Nice. Good trait.
Lexi Hall
Yeah. Give me the window. Preferably.
Sophie
Yeah. So you can rest.
Gronk
Yes.
Sophie
Yeah.
Gronk
Noise canceling headphones.
Lexi Hall
Pack it.
Sophie
I can't. Like, if I wear headphones on a flight, it makes it harder to, like, lay my head down to sleep.
Lexi Hall
The buds.
Sophie
So I do buds.
Lexi Hall
You can. They have noise canceling buds.
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Gronk
What do you mean?
Lexi Hall
How do you not know that he's living in 2015?
Sophie
Okay, it says headphones, so I'm thinking big, bulky, make it hard to sleep.
Gronk
Headphones just like anything.
Sophie
I call those earphones.
Lexi Hall
Whatever.
Gronk
Do you not like any type of headphones?
Sophie
Extra pair of socks.
Gronk
Pass it. Okay, this one's good because I feel like you're a dweeb. Compression socks.
Lexi Hall
Pass it.
Gronk
No, I've totally seen you wear. I had a hurt knee. Lexi.
Lexi Hall
Okay, yes. Good job.
Sophie
Sleep mask.
Lexi Hall
Typically. Pass. But my sister gave me one, like, two weeks ago. It's a game changer. It's nice.
Sophie
I used to make fun of people who did them, but, like, it works.
Lexi Hall
It does.
Sophie
It works.
Lexi Hall
So now I'm gonna say pack it. Okay.
Gronk
Packing cubes.
Lexi Hall
Pass it. I want to be someone that uses them.
Sophie
Was it packing cube?
Gronk
What? You guys all use those?
Lexi Hall
I. I love the idea.
Gronk
Very organized.
Sophie
You exhibit it. It makes it so.
Gronk
It's like all your socks and, like, underwear.
Lexi Hall
So when you get there, you know where everything is. Like, in theory, it's a great.
Gronk
It's just not thrown in your suitcase.
Sophie
Travel blanket.
Lexi Hall
Pass it.
Gronk
Lint roller.
Lexi Hall
Pass it.
Sophie
Your own pillow.
Lexi Hall
Pass it. My grandma does that.
Sophie
That's cute.
Gronk
Electrolyte packets.
Lexi Hall
Packet.
Gronk
Yeah.
Lexi Hall
I also don't drink water unless it's flavored, so.
Sophie
Really?
Lexi Hall
I mean it.
Sophie
Yeah, that's not good.
Lexi Hall
I'm hydrated, though, because I'll just put on.
Gronk
I can't drink clean water either. I just saw you pound a freaking cheeseburger with greasy fries, and you're worried about sugar?
Sophie
I'm not who I'm not. I don't have a big game coming
Lexi Hall
up, but wouldn't you rather have electrolytes?
Sophie
Yeah.
Gronk
Hand sanitizer.
Lexi Hall
Pass. I should again, like, backpack.
Sophie
Do you.
Gronk
I have a lot of hand sanitizer, immune support, vitamins.
Sophie
This makes me think maybe, like, an emergency.
Gronk
Pass.
Lexi Hall
I'm not patching that.
Gronk
Okay, this one I kind of know the answer to, but multiple books. Paperback. Pass.
Lexi Hall
Okay. I'm a Kindle girl. Yes.
Gronk
Yeah.
Sophie
She's got film to watch.
Lexi Hall
No, not.
Gronk
Oh, my God.
Lexi Hall
Do you know?
Sophie
Yeah, no, I was thinking of, like, an iPad.
Gronk
I know, but that's not a Kindle.
Lexi Hall
Wes, when was the last time you read a book?
Sophie
I'm currently reading a book called Sapiens. It's about the development of human beings on planet Earth.
Gronk
I need the physical book. I. I feel that, like, I can't. I just can't.
Lexi Hall
It's not the Same. I just love. The thing about the Kindle that I love the most is once you finish a book, the next one's ready to go.
Gronk
Oh, I know.
Lexi Hall
You don't have to go buy it.
Gronk
Doesn't get crinkled in your bag a thousand percent.
Lexi Hall
I think there's something special about the crinkles.
Sophie
I do think though, book, like, books are such a massive part of home decor that now like your apartment or house or wherever, it just. They look so good and studious and like, they're all that you have a story to tell about when you read
Gronk
it and tells a story, your book tells a story. Because mine is like at the pool. Mine has like water on it. It's all crinkled. Like, I like that food from the
Sophie
destination you were just at.
Lexi Hall
Pack it.
Gronk
More outfits than days.
Lexi Hall
Pack it.
Sophie
Pack.
Lexi Hall
I always overpack.
Sophie
That was Pack it or pass it it with Lexi Hole.
Gronk
Okay. So we talked a lot about just like basketball in college travel. But I think that you have something really special coming out that kind of fits the lifestyle of someone who's crazy busy. And so I want you to hit on that.
Lexi Hall
So I'm starting a makeup brand with my Stanford roommate, Sarah. It's coming out end of this month, so we're so excited. It's called Forta for the active.
Sophie
We love.
Gronk
Yeah.
Sophie
Congrats.
Lexi Hall
Thank you. We're so excited. It's like, like something that I'll be using, but also like just all the active people that are running around want their makeup to last.
Sophie
So as someone who's not super fluent in makeup, I'm assuming water resistant.
Lexi Hall
Water resistant. Sweat resistant.
Sophie
Sweat resistant. Nice.
Lexi Hall
All the things. Checking all the boxes.
Gronk
Yeah. What products, like, do you have?
Lexi Hall
So we're starting with the setting spray. That's what's going to launch. Yeah. And then we have two more coming out. So then we're going to do like a drop model. So we'll drop one at a time. Wow.
Gronk
And then you have an event coming up in April.
Lexi Hall
Yep. We have a launch party in New York.
Gronk
Wow.
Lexi Hall
So excited.
Sophie
Friends, how come if I'm in town, I'm gonna slide?
Lexi Hall
Yes. We'd love that.
Gronk
That is.
Lexi Hall
It's gonna be so fun. It's like, it's so nice to have something outside of sports to work on. Focus on.
Gronk
Yeah.
Sophie
So what's Sarah do?
Lexi Hall
So she used to be in private equity, but now she's full time. Florida.
Daniel Cormier
Oh, really?
Gronk
Full time?
Lexi Hall
Yeah. So we raised a little bit of money and now we can finally pay her a little bit but it's not like she gave up a lot to do this full time. And she's really smart.
Sophie
Yeah.
Lexi Hall
I get.
Sophie
I have to put makeup on sometimes.
Lexi Hall
Actually, this is a funny story. We went and talked at a college and like college kids and we. They had asked questions of Sarah and I and one of them was like, I play on the football team and we wear eye black and it's always running down our face by the end of the game. Like, can we use your settings for. It's like, yes, we will send it to you.
Sophie
What goes into your makeup routine before a game? Because obviously that's not the priority. No, but you still. I'm sure there's a little something.
Gronk
Can I just say though, you're on tv. Yeah.
Lexi Hall
But the walk ins. Yes.
Gronk
The evolution, though, like, I'm not kidding, like, when you were in college. I feel like it's such a different time even when I was in college. And like, like, you didn't wear makeup. Like, that wasn't. That was not a thing. And like, now people have like a.
Sophie
I've seen p. Yeah, I've seen pictures
Gronk
which, like, you don't really do that. But we could totally walk through our makeup routine.
Lexi Hall
I have worn makeup, like, since high school when I played.
Gronk
Really?
Lexi Hall
But you love that stuff. I love it. Like, I love makeup, I love beauty, I love cosmetic, like, products. I love all of that.
Gronk
Which is funny because, like, you're one that doesn't need any of it.
Lexi Hall
Thanks. So you know what I'm saying? But I do love it, like, for sports versus, like a normal day. Like, I'm wearing less, but I'm still like, like using like, going through the whole routine. Concealer, blush, mascara, eyebrow gel, setting, spray. Like it is. And that's also like, back to the routine. That's part of my pregame routine that I enjoy.
Sophie
You've done it forever.
Lexi Hall
Yeah. And like, if I'm not wearing my hair in a braid, I might curl my hair. I might crimp my hair.
Gronk
Ooh, watch out, Watch out.
Sophie
Yeah.
Lexi Hall
So I give myself some time to like.
Sophie
Do you put on a fit for like, walk ins every single game or only when the, when the mood strikes?
Lexi Hall
I mean, like, I tried to on the road. It's like, easier to just throw on like a workout, like, outfit.
Gronk
But even your work outfits are like, super cute. It's not like she never looks. You know how I look? I look like trash.
Lexi Hall
Well, like, I wear Athleta and like, their travel sets are.
Gronk
I feel like anytime you have a
Lexi Hall
matching set you look more put together.
Gronk
Anyway, I was just saying that last night I said I'm going to order a bunch of matching sets because even when I just want to go somewhere, I want to look a little bit more put together this year. And I'm.
Lexi Hall
Matching sets, like sweat sets that are the same color, automatically elevated.
Sophie
My hot take is that with tunnel fits and I. NFL, NBA, wnba, all sports. I think the art of team matching sweatsuits is, like. Is lost.
Lexi Hall
It's gone.
Gronk
You like that?
Sophie
I think when you're. When you have, like, a fresh team jumpsuit and you all, like, get off the bus and walk in together and it's the same fit. Like, it's.
Lexi Hall
I get that.
Sophie
I think it looks good.
Lexi Hall
It looks more put together.
Sophie
Yeah.
Gronk
Well, Lex, I think that you are doing stuff that's super special on the court, clearly. But off court, like, I think it's so smart of you to, like, start getting your feet wet in other things. And Florida's gonna take off. So everyone, if you wear that type of stuff, get on Florida, buy it.
Sophie
This was so fun, actually.
Lexi Hall
This was fun.
Sophie
Yeah.
Lexi Hall
We love the.
Sophie
Rex, I'm glad you're here.
Gronk
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Lexi Hall
That's Maibo.
Sophie
O yeah.
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Sophie
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Sophie
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Podcast Host: Sophie Cunningham & West Wilson (aka "Gronk")
Featured Guest: Lexie Hull (Indiana Fever, WNBA)
Release Date: March 31, 2026
In this special "Live from the Bracket" episode, WNBA and Indiana Fever standout Sophie Cunningham and her co-host West Wilson, a reality TV alum, welcome Sophie’s Fever teammate and former Stanford basketball star Lexie Hull. Recorded at the Westin Hotel in Indianapolis during March Madness, the episode dives into the tight-knit world of women’s college basketball, sisterhood and teamwork, travel tales both on and off the court, and how Lexie is channeling her on-court discipline into launching a brand-new makeup line. With candid friendship, warmth, and plenty of behind-the-scenes laughs, it’s a must-listen peek into the lives and routines of top women athletes.
The episode is informal, playful, and deeply personal. Sophie and Gronk’s friendship with Lexie brings plenty of inside jokes, gentle teasing, and heartfelt admiration. They keep the vibe high-spirited but often pivot to moments of real vulnerability and insight on what it’s like to be a groundbreaker in women’s sports—both as an athlete and a businesswoman.
This “Show Me Something” episode is packed with firsthand stories from Lexie Hull’s basketball journey—her twin bond, bubble championship, growing pro career, and the unique dynamics of women’s sports. Whether it's sneaking candy at breakfast, dreaming of sold-out Fever crowds, strategizing tunnel fits, or launching a makeup line for athletes, Lexie exudes authenticity and aspiration. The hosts’ natural chemistry ensures contagious laughs and relatable wisdom on keeping routines, chasing dreams, and savoring every sweet stop on the road.
For future episodes, expect more insider tales, off-court adventures, and the kind of candid camaraderie you just don’t get from highlight reels.