Sophie Cunningham on Fever's WNBA preseason, Angel Reese love triangle & DRAMA w West Wilson

Summary

Show Me Something, Ep. 38: Sophie Cunningham on Fever’s WNBA Preseason, Angel Reese Love Triangle & Drama w/ West Wilson

Date: May 5, 2026
Hosts: Sophie Cunningham (Indiana Fever, WNBA), West "Kev" Wilson (Bravo’s Summer House, Reality TV)

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Sophie Cunningham and her bestie West Wilson catch up on everything from Sophie's WNBA preseason with the Indiana Fever to wild love triangles in pro sports and messy reality TV leaks. The conversation covers preseason nerves, rookie standouts, national TV attention for the Fever, and West's recent reality show drama—including leaked footage and, unexpectedly, leaked nudes. On the lighter side, the duo mix in pop culture headlines (Stagecoach vs. Coachella, a Helen Keller trading card), fashion debates, crazy kickball updates and a crash course in sports betting.

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WNBA Preseason: Sophie's Insider Take

[02:39–04:36]

• Getting Real Minutes: Sophie discusses finally playing significant preseason minutes after rehab, feeling "confident," and how preseason is about letting rookies “shine” and “seeing your teammates’ dreams come true for the first time.”
  • "A lot of these rookies, it was their debut...that’s the most exciting part: seeing your teammates' dreams come true for the first time." – Sophie [02:39]
• Physical State: Sophie shares, “I feel very mild. I’m married while. Which is great...Honestly played good, just felt confident, was shooting the ball.” [03:48]
• Preseason Value: Talks about learning team strengths and areas for improvement against strong teams like New York.
• Rookies to Watch:
  • Braven Johnson – Top draft pick, “great defensive player...fun, bubbly personality.”
  • JT (Alabama) – “Strong, can shoot it, really good, fits right into the W.”
  • KT – Chicago pick, “lefty, quick point guard, good defense.”
  • J.P. (from Vandy) – “Stretch forward, can shoot the shit out of it.”
  • Meg McConnell – Scrappy point guard, "Her brother TJ is on the Pacers…cool family story.”
• Uniform Struggles: Sophie’s "not having an identity crisis," but discussing awkwardness of compression sleeves and basketball fashion. [08:02]

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The Energy Around the Fever

[11:00–11:44]

• Hyped for the Season: "Our fans are the freaking best ones...I’m just excited to be back." – Sophie [10:39]
• National TV Milestone: Every Fever game will be nationally televised.
  • "It is actually insane. It’s pretty cool…I think last care have like, 42 [TV games]." – Sophie [11:42]

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Locker Room Life & Out-of-Game Fun

[09:05–11:18]

• Upcoming Games: "We play Dallas on Wednesday and we play Nigeria on Sunday." – Sophie [08:57]
• Fashion: Preseason = no fancy tunnel fits, but Sophie’s “going hot, sexy, country, little chicky” for the season opener with plans to see Morgan Wallen after the game. [11:00]

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Sophie & Kev’s Reality TV Drama: The “Leak”

[15:02–21:41]

• Leaked Footage: West addresses rumors of him leaking content from the “Summer House” reunion, denying involvement and explaining production security. “There were rumors that I, like, I leaked it to sell it to Complex or something. Like preposterous. Obviously not.” – Kev [15:11]
• Reunion Experience: "Reunions aren’t fun, but you do. It’s like the darkest form of therapy where you have to, like, you don’t normally get that much feedback on how your actions impact people." – Kev [20:51]
• Personal Growth: Both talk about owning mistakes, facing big consequences, and using difficult moments for growth. [21:13–21:42]

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The Nudes Leak

[22:14–24:25]

• West Handles Scandal: West has to contend with his private photos being leaked after a hack. He shares the experience with humor and realness:
  • "I know my nudes leaked, OK? But guess what? It’s like the sixth worry of mine right now. I have a lot of shit going on, and like, I’m gonna own it…they’re not even sexual. Like, they look medical. I’m soft in all of them." – Kev [22:17]
  • "Don’t leak people’s nudes or, like, hack people’s. It’s, like, not fun. If I don’t laugh, I’ll cry." – Kev [22:56]
• How He Found Out: “Scott still texted me 5 seconds before I walked on stage. The reunion. And I was like, mother, when it rains, it storms.” – Kev [23:37]
• Sophie’s Support: "This is gonna be the year of growth for you. Seriously." – Sophie [24:16]

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Around the Sports & Celebrity World: Relationships & Drama

[24:33–29:40]

• Clay & Meg Breakup Drama: Rumors swirl about who cheated and whether Clay needs to rename his boat after break-up. “My main concern is, like, the boat name, because he named his boat after her.” – Sophie [25:06]
• Angel Reese NBA Playoff Triangle:
  • Wendell Carter Jr. is now dating Angel Reese, who recently dated Jalen Duran.
  • The two NBA bigs are facing off in the playoffs, and Angel is trashing her ex on social media when he gets dunked on.
  • “Every time Jalen Durant gets dunked on Angel Reese is putting it on her story. So she’s really going after him here.” – News Contributor [28:47]
  • “I wonder…something had to have happened for her to like embarrass him...” – Sophie [29:09]

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Pop Culture Headlines & Tangents

[13:39–14:20]

• Stagecoach vs. Coachella: Sophie would rather go to Stagecoach (“way more Stagecoach”), Kev would maybe do Coachella but isn’t a festival die-hard.
  • “I don’t want to dress up really that much to...walk that far and...not even see be that close to the artist.” – Kev [13:13]

[38:07–39:41]

• Helen Keller Signed Card Sells for $4,500: Kev, Sophie & News Contributor debate whether it could be real, how you’d authenticate, and even if Helen Keller’s feats are possible.
  • “Do we believe that Helen Keller was blind and deaf?” – Sophie [38:35]
  • “That should be like 4.5 million.” – Sophie [39:41]

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The Enhanced Games

[36:21–38:07]

• Juiced Olympics: Las Vegas to host “Enhanced Games”—all athletes openly on steroids, competing for $25 million in swimming, track, and weightlifting.
  • “I would be interested to see...are steroids clearly that much better for athletic performance? ...Maybe that’s not even a question.” – Kev [37:03]
  • Sophie: Thinks steroids might matter more on “elite elite athletes,” fascinated to see results.

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Kickball & Kev’s Comeback (Comic Relief)

[33:56–36:08]

• Kev updates on his rec kickball team (“Beast infection 3-0!”), dramatic ankle bruise, and the thrill of rehabbing an injury.
  • “It feels good to have like an injury to work on and...see progress. How good is that as an athlete?” – Kev [35:40]
  • “That how it feels so good to have an injury. So you can see progress.” – Sophie [35:55]
  • “I got a kickball championship to win.” – Kev [36:08]

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Hot Takes & Fashion

[39:59–42:08]

• Athleisure Debate: Stanley Tucci says “no more sweats in the wild.” Both hosts push back.
  • Airport style: Kev marvels at Japanese business fashion, where “every single adult male...had on a perfectly tailored, crispy suit.”
• Stagecoach vs Coachella Recap: Both agree outdoor concerts > indoor. [14:00]

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Headlines Rapid Fire

[30:08–30:54]

• Running Point Season 2 (Netflix): Mindy Kaling-produced basketball comedy gets a shout-out: “It basically is a basketball comedy with an entirely stacked cast.” – Kev [30:08]

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Sports Betting Explained

[43:50–47:27]

• Kev and News Contributor walk through betting lines, including Chiefs AFC West odds and MVP bets, breaking down odds for beginners.
  • “Negative means what? Whatever you're putting in, you’re going to get less money back because it’s like something that will probably happen.” – Kev [45:42]
  • “If it’s around, we'll talk more about that. And if it's not near 100 whatsoever, then it's like, crazy.” – Sophie [47:00]

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Most Memorable Quotes

• "A lot of these rookies, it was their debut...that’s the most exciting part: seeing your teammates’ dreams come true for the first time." – Sophie [02:39]
• "I know my nudes leaked, OK? But guess what? It’s like the sixth worry of mine right now. I have a lot of shit going on, and like, I’m gonna own it." – Kev [22:17]
• “This is gonna be the year of growth for you. Seriously.” – Sophie [24:16]
• "Do we believe that Helen Keller was blind and deaf?” – Sophie [38:35]
• “Every time Jalen Duran gets dunked on Angel Reese is putting it on her story. So she’s really going after him here.” – News Contributor [28:47]

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Additional Noteworthy Segments

• Preseason story: Sophie’s first W preseason game included a buzzer beater, but “it didn’t count” [05:52]
• WNBA scheduling: "Every Fever game is nationally televised." [11:42]
• Summer House drama: Production leak details & emotional fallout [15:02–21:41]
• Pop culture tangents: Trading cards, American fashion standards, and sports culture [38:07–42:08]

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Overall Episode Vibe

Fun, fast-paced, and candid. Sophie and West mix locker-room honesty, sports knowledge, and reality TV insight with zero filter and lots of mutual support, poking fun at their own predicaments while rooting for one another. The episode blends sports, pop culture, personal drama, and playful banter, keeping things light-hearted but unafraid to get real when life gets wild.

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Perfect For:

• WNBA & Indiana Fever fans
• Reality TV followers (Bravo’s Summer House)
• Pop culture & sports gossip junkies
• Listeners who crave real talk, laughter, and a behind-the-scenes perspective on women’s sports & entertainment

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End of summary.

Transcript

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[Sophie]

A lot of these rookies, it was their debut and so get the nerves out of the way. You get to kind of see them, like, shine and see how they compare. And so I think that's the most exciting part is like, one, not playing against yourself or the practice guys and two, seeing like, your teammates dreams come true for the first time.

[Kev]

Where you at? Oh, so that's a nice little blue circle in your new apartment. What is that?

[Sophie]

It is a blue circle. Just how you said it was sick.

[Kev]

I love that show me something podcast episode 38. Heads up. Sophie's mic still broken, but I feel.

[Sophie]

Should I just, like, leave it here just for the shits and gigs of

[Kev]

it or like, yeah, it looks good on camera. I mean, this is our first pod since you've gotten to play real minutes.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

How's the freaking. How's the freaking need?

[Sophie]

So good, truly. Well, I don't want to say that because every time I say I feel good, something bad happens. So I'd like to say I feel very mild. I'm married while. Which is great. No, seriously, we were in New York and. Oh, yeah, it was just fun. I went out and got dinner with some of my SI girls and that was fun. And then the next day we had a game and honestly played good. Like, just felt confident was shooting the ball. But we only. I only played, like, I think like 10, 12 minutes because it's like preseason because you have so many people in the bench. So that's like, really, you.

[Kev]

You put up 13 and 12.

[Sophie]

I think I feel like maybe I played 13 minutes. I don't know, like 10 to 13 minutes. I don't know.

[Kev]

That's a 13 in that amount of time is like, pretty saucy.

[Sophie]

Thanks. I feel good. Like, truly, like, I. It's good. Our team is, like, fast, and we're gonna be. We're gonna be a lot better than. I think a lot of people are

[Kev]

thinking, what's your, like, what's your stance on preseason? Like, do you like to play games that don't matter? Like, do you like seeing the bench get to play a lot? Like, how do you. Where's. Some people hate preseason? Some people.

[Sophie]

I think it's fun because during training camp, you're just like, so used to like, just going against. Against your team the whole time, and so it's nice to finally go Another team to kind of see, okay, we're real good here. We need to be better here. Or, like, just see where you kind of stack up. And New York is. I mean, they've been in, like, the championship. They've won. Like, that was a good team to like. And we beat them, which is. I know it's preseason, but still makes you feel good. And then, you know, I do like it because then you get to just see the people. Like, a lot of these rookies, it was their first debut, and so, like, get the. The nerves out of the way. You get to kind of see them, like, shine and. And see how they compare. And so I think that's the most exciting part is, like, one, not playing against yourself or the practice guys and two, seeing, like, your teammates dreams come true for the first time. So I think that's super cool.

[Kev]

That's precious. Do you remember your first preseason game where you were.

[Sophie]

I think we played Seattle and I hit a buzzer beater.

[Kev]

End of the game, buzzer beater to win it. Your first W game.

[Sophie]

But it was preseason, so it didn't count.

[Kev]

That's still sick.

[Sophie]

Yeah, it was fun. Oh, you definitely.

[Kev]

Whoa.

[Sophie]

I love our rookies, too. Our rookies are awesome.

[Kev]

So run us through the. Run us through the rookie girls.

[Sophie]

So, yeah, Braven Johnson, she was the highest draft. She was. She's gonna be great. Great defensive player. Just a very fun, bubbly personality. Like, truly love her. She's awesome. Jt, she's from Alabama. She is strong. Strong can shoot it. She's a score, like, really good. Get to her spots. Pretty, like, seamlessly fit right into the W, which was really nice to see. Kt, which, she was drafted a couple years ago by Chicago. I'm pretty sure she's been overseas, but she's a great lefty, a quick little point guard, shifty ball, good defensive player.

[Kev]

In the same way that baseball values lefties as pitchers and batters. Does. Does a point guard, like, up a defense if they can just. If they, like, always go left or anything? I guess you want to be ambidextrous.

[Sophie]

You do. But I will say, like, Kelsey Mitchell, who could be the MVP this year, who knows? She's just right. Like, all of our plays are run so she can get to her strong hand. For Asia Wilson, all the plays are for her left hand. Like, yes, they know how to go right. But, like, you try to set up your teammates to be the most successful, so makes sense you have J.P. she's from Bandy. She is a stretch forward can shoot the shit out of it. Really good. There you have Megan Connell. So this is of a good little story. So Meg McConnell, she's a point guard. Scrappy, scrappy little lover. Can shoot it, pass the ball. Just a good point guard. But her brother TJ is on the Pacers. Oh, sister. Yeah. I'm sure, like, their mom and dad are so thrilled that they're together for a little bit. So I think that's kind of like all the rookies.

[Kev]

Maybe a lot of people don't think about this, but that's your first time getting to put on the unit, like, real uniforms and kind of like get swaggy, you know?

[Sophie]

Dude, I hated my slack this year, though.

[Kev]

How don't. You can't hate your own swag.

[Sophie]

Because I wear long sleeves.

[Kev]

Because you had elbow. You had elbow issues before.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Now I'm wearing a compression sleeve on my leg, and I think I have to take it off because then I have one leg free.

[Kev]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Can you go. Yeah. You can't go long sleeves with. With a leg.

[Sophie]

No.

[Kev]

Can you just let your arms go? Bare arms for a little. And like a headband. I think you'd look sick. Thick, kind of like a thick, thick white headband. Not like thick this way, but kind of tall.

[Sophie]

No.

[Kev]

Yeah, that would be. I think that would be fresh.

[Sophie]

Absolutely not.

[Kev]

With the leg sleeve on. And then some tattoos right here.

[Sophie]

What? I'm not. I'm not having identity crisis. I just don't. So we're gonna.

[Kev]

Well, let's figure out. Let's figure that out before first game.

[Sophie]

I have until May 9, but we play Dallas on Wednesday and we play Nigeria on Sunday. Yeah.

[Kev]

So then is that their na. That's their national team. Say there's Nigerian girls in the W. Are they playing for this national team? No. Right? I didn't think so. Any weird games like how you guys played at Iowa last year? Any gimmicky, like, goofy games you're playing?

[Sophie]

So. No, I think we were supposed to, but because of our cpa, it got canceled.

[Kev]

Ah, okay. Oh, that sucks.

[Sophie]

I do think that that is going to become a thing, though. Like, you'll see people going to Iowa. You'll see people going to, I feel

[Kev]

like Montana State, dude.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Bring them back to Missouri. That would be so awesome.

[Kev]

Quick up. Little interruption. I introduced Sophie to the Montana State athletic director, Leon Costello, and it was a. A very special treat. So one. One day, we're gonna get Sophie up there.

[Sophie]

Sorry. I mean, I don't know why I'm eating a chocolate strawberry.

[Kev]

It's okay. Oh, you remind me. I gotta eat dinner.

[Sophie]

I just got a massage. Oh, yeah. I shoved a lot.

[Kev]

Male or male or female?

[Sophie]

Female. Her name's Karen. She's the freaking best.

[Kev]

Okay. Okay.

[Sophie]

But I. I don't know why I was craving, like, a chocolate strawberry after my massage.

[Kev]

That sounds like a horny day. Wait. Okay. You guys play the. The Wings in back in Back at the crib game.

[Sophie]

Bridge, baby.

[Kev]

You think people are gonna turn up for the anything special?

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[Kev]

They gonna turn the lights out?

[Sophie]

I don't know.

[Kev]

It's always fun.

[Sophie]

I don't know. I feel like all of our games back at home or here are special. So like, even preseason games, they're like real games, so I don't know. I'm excited. I'm just. Our fans are the freaking best ones, I'm telling you. Like, you're just so damn cool. I'm just excited to be back.

[Kev]

Do you have a first game tunnel fit ready?

[Sophie]

So preseason games, you really don't dress up?

[Kev]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sophie]

But our first game is on A. It's May 9th. I think it's against Dallas. I could be completely wrong, but Morgan Wallen has a concert that night, so, you know, I'm going hot, sexy, country, little. Little chicky.

[Kev]

Are you. Are you missing the concert?

[Sophie]

No, I'm going right after the game.

[Kev]

Wow, that's awesome. That's going to be a fun, fun day. Fun.

[Sophie]

I have, like, Cooper and his wife coming up, Joe and a couple other buddies coming.

[Kev]

That's beautiful. On that note, for Fever Games, the debut schedule came out. And correct me if I'm wrong, every Fever game is nationally televised.

[Sophie]

It is actually insane. It's pretty cool.

[Kev]

Has that ever. There's no way that's happened before.

[Sophie]

For every game, I think last care have like, 42.

[Kev]

Okay. That's sick.

[Sophie]

Yeah. So that's good.

[Kev]

Now I have no. I have no excuse for not being.

[Sophie]

Damn it.

[Kev]

Absolutely, absolutely dialed h. I know.

[Sophie]

Dude, you texted me during our pre season, during the one on Saturday. Come over, like, hang out. I'm playing, dude.

[Kev]

I. Yeah, I just had it. I got to have people at my apartment now I can't go anywhere.

[Sophie]

Honestly, I. It's. I literally don't care.

[Kev]

No, I did, though, because I got the alert. I texted you, and I was like, I'm having, like, a few people over, want to come over. And then I got the alert, like, three hours later. That was like, fever win. And I was like, oh, my God, it's So embarrassing. I invited her over when she was playing.

[Sophie]

I literally.

[Kev]

Oh, wow.

[Sophie]

Have you been seeing, like, all the Stagecoach stuff?

[Kev]

I'm not on the Internet, so.

[Sophie]

Stage Coach, I think was a freaking hit this year.

[Kev]

I just don't get, like. Like, it's in the same place as Coachella. No, like, it's literally the same zip code.

[Sophie]

I think when. Where's Coachella at?

[News/Headline Contributor]

Okay, let's see.

[Kev]

Where.

[News/Headline Contributor]

Oh, Coachell.

[Sophie]

Where is Coachella?

[News/Headline Contributor]

It is hosted in California desert around Palm Springs, near Rancho Mirage.

[Sophie]

And then where's Stagecoach Festival location?

[News/Headline Contributor]

Empire Polo Club, right inside the Coachella Valley.

[Sophie]

I think it's funny because I think you're more Coachella and I'm definitely way more Stagecoach.

[Kev]

Am just. That's a fair take. I. I do, and I am not. I will. I do not like yucking people's yums. I think everyone should vibe how they want to, but I never, ever have Coachella envy. I'm like, I don't want to dress up really that much to, like, walk that far and, like, be dirty and, like, probably not even see be that close to the artist.

[Sophie]

I'll take. I'm surprised by that. I thought you'd definitely be, like, a Coachella guy.

[Kev]

No, I've never been. And I don't, like, feel like I need to go. I would, like, maybe I'd go. It just is like, I don't know. I'm just not a concert. Like, Die Hard. I think I will say the Bieber stuff looked cool. Like, him just being like, yeah, see,

[Sophie]

I love a good concert, but I would rather a concert, like an outdoor concert. Like, I don't want so much of an inside concert person. But then again, if it was the right artist, I totally would be. I would just prefer, like, you know, a good little summer country concert outside.

[Kev]

All right, I'm just gonna say it. I've been glued to my JLab headphones lately. Flights, workouts, quick coffee runs. They've basically been on me 24 7.

[Sophie]

And the wild part, the batter just keeps going. I honestly don't remember the last time I charged mine. It's been that long.

[Kev]

The sound holds up too. Super clean. Gets loud when you want it to and doesn't get all distorted on you.

[Sophie]

I've been rocking the over ear pair on flights, and it's a total upgr. Noise canceling is clutch. They're comfortable the entire time.

[Kev]

Whether I'm in the gym, on a plane, or just walking around with music, they've got something that fits whatever vibe

[Sophie]

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[Kev]

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[Sophie]

So I've got to ask Beth. And I heard the. I heard the. The leak. What? How's it even leaked?

[Kev]

Dude, I don't know so well for one. Like, there were rumor. Again, not on the Internet, but everyone was like, Wes did it and he like, was gonna sell it. There were rumors that I, like, I leaked it to sell it to Complex or something. Like preposterous. Obviously not like, I don't think anyone on stage could ever do it. It's got to be someone where. Yeah, like where audio is. But they found the person. I don't know who it is, but yeah, I'm gonna ask eventually.

[Sophie]

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[Sophie]

Yeah. And I love that you can actually talk through it too. Like if I'm expecting a delivery or someone swings by, I don't have to run to the door, so. That easy.

[Kev]

And the details it picks up are wild. Between the motion alerts and the low light quality, you're not guessing what's going on. It just tells you.

[Sophie]

I've been using the outdoor cam plus around my place, especially at night, and it's so clear. The wide view, the retinal 2K video. You can see everything around your yard without missing anything. And I don't have to rely on my dog to be on the lookout anymore, even though he's such a good boy.

[Kev]

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[Sophie]

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[Kev]

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[Sophie]

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[Kev]

But it could be like I'm pretty sure people are like freelanced in to help with audio and stuff and But I don't think that's ever happened.

[Sophie]

Can I just tell you I. I forgot what. What day got le. I had so many texts oh morning morning after so many times like about. About it and I was like dude, I have do. I don't know. Like I don't. I don't know how. How I want to know everything.

[Kev]

Yeah, well, I mean I like obviously can't talk that much about it but those are just. That's a long, long day or like really just. Yeah for everyone. Like it's a long day always. Obviously this one a little less fun than normal. But yeah, the leak. I don't really know how it affects. I. I don't know it's just like it's just such a compromise of like the integrity like Bravo is bravo so buttoned up with everything that I'm sure they're just so obviously because of Bravo

[Sophie]

because we're not allowed to talk about certain things that both want to talk about because but so I'm surprised it got out but honestly if anything maybe it's good because people are like. Like there's real that's going to be talked about. So I think it's maybe a good kind of tease Like, I'm trying to be positive here. Like. Yeah, could be a good tease.

[Kev]

Depends who you ask. Again, I can't. I'm not allowed to say, honestly, anything,

[Sophie]

but are things kind of trailing in the right direction?

[Kev]

I just think I. I hope. I mean, that's what matters to me the most, is like, these are my friends, you know, and I've caused a lot of damage, which sucks. So it's gonna take time for sure, but time helps. And we are doing. The reunion was one step, you know, and got through it. And so we're on the other side of it and you just gotta to get one.

[Sophie]

You have a good time.

[Kev]

Bonobos, though. Shout out. Bonobos came through. It's like a blue with like a little. There's like a tad bit of, like, plaid undertones.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

I mean, honestly, reunions aren't fun, but you do. It's like the darkest form of therapy where you have to, like, you don't normally get that much feedback on how your actions impact other people. Obviously, there's like a shock to your system from it. I'm not trying to be cliche, but the only thing I can do from this is learn and try to be better.

[Sophie]

Honestly, that's okay. Like, you are human and I think people. It is just a good way to look yourself in the mirror. Maybe how your actions impact others and have. Maybe next can be a little bit more aware of fear. But also it's a good time to reflect up, like, the things you do well, the way you make people feel in a good way too. So it's like, good, positive, and I don't want to say negative, but it's just like, things to grow and mature and get better on. And everyone do that.

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Literally do that.

[Kev]

Yeah, totally. Well, also, the only way you can make experiences like this worth it, as dark as it gets, is to be better from it later. And, like, obviously I have a lot to learn from and be better for. It's absolutely the only way you can make any of this. Turn it positive, you know, it's. Yeah, it's growth. It's. It'll take a sec, but we'll get there, you know? And you know what? While we're talking about growth.

[Sophie]

Right. Oh, my.

[Kev]

I know my nudes leaked, okay? But guess what? It's like the sixth worry of mine right now. I have a lot of shit going on and, like, I'm gonna own it. It's happened to friends of mine, and they're not even sexual. Like, they look medical. I'm soft in all of them. I don't even know if the other two are me, but I. In my old apartment, so it's like. I don't know how old it is, but it's from my old apartment. I had a sauna by my bathroom, and I would always get out of the sauna and, like, double check or, like, check progress.

[Sophie]

You know, who had it. Like, who leaked them?

[Kev]

Well, I. So I woke up also. I know I'm, like, laughing because if I don't laugh, I'll cry about all of this. So, like, don't leak people's nudes or, like, hack people's. It's, like, not fun. I'm not telling you. I woke up that same morning and, like, my Instagram was hacked and my Facebook was hacked. And I don't know how. How that happened. What else can I do? Yeah. Manscaped partnership down the road, hopefully.

[Sophie]

How did. You said you don't have social. How did you find out?

[Kev]

I did.

[Sophie]

Your mom.

[Kev]

Scott. No, Scott still texted me 5 seconds before I walked on stage. The reunion. And I was like, mother, when it rains, it storms. But, yeah, I know that I've had the worst day of my life already, which is good to know.

[Sophie]

Yeah, that's behind me. Yeah. So you know what you're. This is your Russ. This is a.

[Kev]

Also, if you see it, report it. Guys, press report off the Internet.

[Sophie]

Dude, you need to hire someone, like, I know. Agent to delete all that, but I'm

[Kev]

gonna, like, let it live because you know what?

[Sophie]

This is gonna be.

[Kev]

What can I do?

[Sophie]

This is gonna be the year of growth for you. Seriously.

[Kev]

No, I know. I'm so. I'm soft in all the pictures.

[Sophie]

Hey, I told. We were. I was talking about it at dinner. Like, thanks.

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Hey, we can just stick with relationships and that type of stuff because there are so many people that are going through some right now. Clay and Meg. Oh, my.

[Kev]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Clay and Meg. I've. So he. She said he cheated on her, but then he posted a video being like, she cheated on me.

[Sophie]

I don't know. So he went on live saying that he had been cheating. He cheated maybe with someone from the W is what I heard. But my main concern is, like, the boat name, because he named his boat after, like, after her, the Meg. So, like, he's gonna have to get that repeated.

[Kev]

Oh, I didn't like that. Also, yeah, I'm probably not the person people want to, like, hear talk about all this right now, but it is happening. I did see a thing today. And it was like his roster or whatever, and they were calling him, like, the Derek Jeter of the. The NBA. I don't know anyone else he's dated, though.

[Sophie]

I don't know, like, his roster

[Kev]

of. Whoever he's dated. I have. I actually don't know who he's dated. We'll see what happens, I'm sure. I. I bet Meg will come out with an album that's absolutely bunkalina.

[Sophie]

Like 4 million on her. He's like, I'll never do that again, Kevin.

[Kev]

That's the exact graphic.

[News/Headline Contributor]

It's a bunch of, like, influence.

[Kev]

I don't think it looks AI. I don't think these are real people.

[Sophie]

They all have to be going to the same injectors. They all have the same cheeks and lips and eyebrows, all stunning.

[Kev]

I don't know if that's. If that's. If those are real people.

[Sophie]

They don't really look. I mean, they're all very beautiful.

[News/Headline Contributor]

Besides the lead researcher on the show, I do not fact check anything. So just everyone at home should. Should be very, very, very aware.

[Kev]

And then the. The Patriots coach, too. I. There's Twitter. Twitter saying he might have to.

[Sophie]

I haven't heard about this.

[News/Headline Contributor]

This first happened. First made the news. Variable and Rossini, a photo leaked of them kind of holding hands. Very like, Coldplay concert esque of that couple that leaked. So this folks, this photo, which is very recent, spurred a bunch of other people coming out with photos in 20.

[Sophie]

20.

[News/Headline Contributor]

20, 24 of them, two together.

[Kev]

Well, of them.

[News/Headline Contributor]

Of them together. They're both married, not to each other. So very scandalous. Diana originally told her company, the Athletic, who she writes for, that it was just like a hangout. It was just like a hang. A lot of people there. So the athletic backed her, supported her, and then was like, cool, just show us the pictures of all the homies hanging out. And she's like, I don't got them. Then she resigned, and then the NFL started to look into this. But NFL is like, Rabel technically didn't break any NFL rules, so they're chilling. But obviously the Patriots had an insanely great year, and now they gotta deal with this. Like, I don't know. Is that, like, an issue? What do you guys think?

[Sophie]

Wait, show me the pic. Do you have the pictures? Kevin, Pull them up. That's crazy. That's.

[Kev]

Yeah, well, she's a reporter, and so, like, she's. They, like, the Internet's doing what they do, and they're finding, like, all the weekends she like, covered the Titans and Like all this.

[Sophie]

Wait, what?

[News/Headline Contributor]

Also the. The newest leak is that like a few seasons ago, the Titans were on a four game losing streak and Diane Rocini.

[Kev]

Are you talking about the pot?

[News/Headline Contributor]

The playlist made a playlist called like Tough Times when we'll move on. And she said it to a guy named Mike, so it's like so many smoking guns out there.

[Sophie]

What? That is so weird. Okay, what else is going on? Kev, tell us more news.

[News/Headline Contributor]

This one is kind of crazy, but the most fun one in my opinion. I can't wait to show you this graphic.

[Sophie]

Fun is insane.

[News/Headline Contributor]

Fun. Is it? So essentially, Jalen Duran, Wendell Carter Jr. They're facing each other in the playoffs right now. Magic and pistons. Wendell Carter Jr. Is dating Angel. Is dating Angel Reese, who is Jalen Duran's ex. So now these two dudes are playing each other, they're guarding each other. And Jalen Duran averaged 20 and 10 in the regular season. He's gonna make the All NBA team. He's an All Star. He's averaging 10 and 8. Now he's matched up against Angel Reese's current boyfriend. He's the ex. So that kind of weird dynamic there is like absolutely crushing his game on a mental level. And it's like, is it.

[Sophie]

Is it real? Like, has he come out and said something that. That's why.

[News/Headline Contributor]

So there's like, you know, Jalen Duran and Angel were like dating on the low, but like, you know, Snap and Instagram, you could tell they're in the same location. That was a few months ago. Now she's very publicly dating Wendell Carter Jr. And every time Jalen Durant gets dunked on Angel Reese is putting it on her story. So she's like really going. Going after him here. Which is kind of crazy too because like, if you're Wendell, be like, yo, you could like move off that now,

[Sophie]

you know, But I wonder if something like something had to have happened for her to like keep like, I don't know, want to like embarrass him in some way or.

[Kev]

Nothing happened.

[Sophie]

Valid. But then move. But then move on. Worry about your current boyfriend.

[News/Headline Contributor]

It's just funny. He's just getting absolutely dominated right now and this is like all NBA Twitter could talk about because I could all. And he's like an all NBA player who just got like the monsters took his powers and now he's averaging 10 and 8 and he's like a 20 and 10 guy. So that sucks in his head. He's in his head.

[Sophie]

I want to see. You gotta get out of Here they look similar at all. Big muscles are that. They're both big men.

[News/Headline Contributor]

Yeah, they're both bigs. I don't know. My wife thinks Wendell Jr. Is hotter. I think Jalen Dread might be hotter, but that's also

[Kev]

fair. Fair. All right, quick one. There's a new season of Running Point dropping on Netflix April 23rd. It's from Mindy Kaling and stars Kate Hudson. It basically is a basketball comedy with an entirely stacked cast.

[Sophie]

And this season, Isla Gordon, she's not the surprise pick anymore. Now she's the person everyone's watching. The team's finally bouncing back after all the drama last year, and she's trying to prove she actually deserves a job.

[Kev]

Meanwhile, her brother is low key, working behind the scenes, trying to take that job back. So it's not just basketball. It's politics, pressure, family drama, all of it.

[Sophie]

And she's got to deal with the board, the expectations, the spotlight, basically rewrite the whole game plan if she wants to stay on top.

[Kev]

Season two definitely turns everything up. More stakes, more chaos, more comedy.

[Sophie]

Honestly, this kind of feels like our world, a little bit. Like pressure, egos, people doubting you, trying to prove you can be long. Yeah, that part, it's at home.

[Kev]

But even if you're not deep into sports, it's still super fun. It's funny, a little messy and very.

[Sophie]

You got ambition, family drama, people skiing, behind the scenes. It's got really everything.

[Kev]

And yeah, Kate Hudson running a basketball team.

[Sophie]

Go check out Running Point Season 2, only on Netflix April 23rd. We are supported by Ring. With Ring, it's protected, so I just

[Kev]

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[Sophie]

Yeah. And I love that you can actually talk through it too. Like if I'm expecting a delivery or someone swings by, I don't have to run to the door. It's that easy.

[Kev]

And it details, it picks up are wild. Between the motion alerts and the low light quality, you're not guessing what's going on. It just tells you.

[Sophie]

I've been using the outdoor cam plus around my place, especially at night. And it's so clear. The wide view, the retinal 2K video, you can see everything around your yard without missing anything. And I don't have to rely on my dog to be on the lookout anymore, even though he's such a good boy.

[Kev]

And if you want to go even bigger, Ring's got 4K cameras and doorbells with retinal vision so you can zoom in and keep all those details super crisp.

[Sophie]

For me, it's just peace of mind. Whether it's deliveries, my car or just my space. It's nice knowing everything's covered without it being complicated.

[Kev]

Exactly. It just fits into your day and makes things feel handled.

[Sophie]

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[Kev]

Wait Kev did you announce that beast infection kickballs three zero I did not

[News/Headline Contributor]

Post game presser Beast infection three zero you came back from an ankle injury a lot of off court spectacles west how are you able to lock in and lead your team to victory?

[Kev]

Also I was go I didn't go this past Thursday but they they got the dub so the team's 30 I think I'll be there this Thursday but I did I I sprained my ankle back Didn't I put my ankle on

[Sophie]

in on camera last time going on

[Kev]

no and then it moved to my toes the other day it was like a real sprain. Wait, look. So this was two or three days ago. If I can get it to wait. Can you see the coloration or.

[Sophie]

No. You should probably chill out. You have free nudes now. Free feet fix.

[Kev]

Wait. Yeah, there it is. So it drained into my feet and my toes and it got, it was like really bruised, really bad. But yesterday Kev braced up, went to the gym, we did a, we did a 7 mile per hour jog for a little bit and then we did a little, then we did some lateral movement because I'm wearing a brace. Like, I'll be fine. I just need to wear cleats. I think this Thursday and keep the brace on. And I should be, I should be okay. But it's like, it feels good to just honestly have again. Sophie, I don't play sports anymore besides this. So, like, I'm working, I'm going, I'm like, I'm rehabbing, I'm, I'm questionable now. I'm probable.

[Sophie]

There you go. There you go.

[Kev]

And I'm. And I gotta wear the brace and then like kind of not, not trust it for the first inning. Kind of feel good. Second inning and then just third, fourth, fifth, just fly.

[Sophie]

Ooh. So you have to kick the ball with it.

[Kev]

Yeah, but I mean, it should be okay. Maybe it, maybe it helps. Honestly, it's more. The hardest part is rounding the bases because it's, it's turf like this thick and you just, you know, it just feels good to have like an injury to work on and like see, and like see progress. How good is that as an athlete? Injury, progress.

[Sophie]

That how it feels so good to have an injury. So you can see progress.

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Right now garden and watch like your tomato plant progress in the sun. Like, you don't need an injury to be doing that.

[Kev]

I got a kickball championship to win.

[Sophie]

You will win.

[Kev]

Well, so that's good. Yeah. So I don't know who we play Thursday, but should be smooth.

[Sophie]

Kev. Is that our only updates?

[News/Headline Contributor]

I actually have a few more for you here. This one's pretty fun. So in a month in Las Vegas, they're hosting the first ever Enhanced Games. These are all athletes on steroids. They're calling it Fully Unleashed. Powered by science, pursuing their full human potential. The game is one night. It's all natural versus unnatural for a 25 million dollar cash prize. Swim, swimming, track and weightlifting, which I think are like events that might, you know, favor steroid people because they're not like skill related activities. You know, it's just like Swim and lift and run. But your guys thoughts on people competing? Totally juiced up.

[Kev]

I have it sounds interesting. Honestly. Same how like some people are like bring back. Let like let people do steroids in baseball because these are just fucking hitting nukes. I would be interested to see if. Here's what the. The like thesis probably is is like are steroids like clearly that much better for athletic performance? Like if everyone on steroids wins swimming, sprinting, weightlifting, then you're. It's just like yeah, it's dangerous. I. I guess but it objectively works. And I don't. Maybe that's. Maybe that's not even a question and

[Sophie]

maybe we'll know that. Here's my argument to that. I think that is completely valid. My only thing is like you take people who are just say you take a normal human and they do that, then like maybe that will enhance how they perform. But when you already have like the most elite elite of athletes and then someone of the elite athletes, they do it. I think that's what matters. But I am very fascinated on how this is going to go.

[News/Headline Contributor]

All right guys, I got another headline for you here. Topps trading cards recently sold a card on ebay, A Helen keller autograph card. $4,500. It's authenticated. It's. It's sold. Guys, is that higher or lower than you?

[Kev]

Who, who, how. How do you authenticate exactly?

[Sophie]

And how do we know is it.

[Kev]

Is there braille?

[News/Headline Contributor]

Do you want to see a picture?

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Yeah, dude, great point. Wes is.

[Kev]

Yeah, it's actually. It's actually kind of sick, dude.

[Sophie]

Do we believe that Helen Keller was blind and deaf?

[News/Headline Contributor]

Whoa.

[Kev]

I think you gotta. It's not. That's not a hill to die on. The bigger question with Helen Keller to me is like how do you even know what life is like? How do you know people are teaching you Beginning.

[Sophie]

I don't Believe it, dude.

[Kev]

Whoa. 45 hund. I. That feels reasonable to me.

[News/Headline Contributor]

No, guys, where do you. Where do you post in your bedroom? Is this like in your dining room where you. Where you showcase?

[Kev]

I mean if she signed that, that's cool to have a thing she signed.

[Sophie]

If she signed it and that that price is low.

[Kev]

Yeah, but it's authentic. Authenticated means it's real.

[Sophie]

I get that.

[Kev]

But I'm saying which I don't know how they.

[Sophie]

That's what I'm saying. Like everyone around the world knows Helen Keller because she is like the only person ever be blind and deaf and knows how to spell, read, write, do everything.

[Kev]

Well, the I think the first. She's not the only one. Or maybe it's only.

[Sophie]

I'm not the first one to be blind and deaf. I'm saying to be blind and deaf and still, like, do everything. How is that possible?

[News/Headline Contributor]

I know. That's. That's why this car. This card is worth almost 5.

[Sophie]

If it's real. That should be, like 4.5 million.

[Kev]

There you go. That's the over. Under for Sophie. 4.5 million. Well, no, actually, a museum. A museum. A museum would pay so much for that.

[News/Headline Contributor]

This is solid resale value.

[Kev]

The blind and deaf museum or whatever.

[News/Headline Contributor]

All right, last one here for you guys. Headlines here at The Devil Wears Prada 2 premiere. Stanley Tucci, noted man of taste, says no more sweats in the wild. He's done with Athleisure. This is only at the gym. Strong take. How do you guys feel about that?

[Sophie]

Look what I'm wearing. What do you.

[Kev]

I. I believe in never being, like, the one who's underdressed at an event or, like, something of value or substance. Like, you should not, and you never want to be underdressed. I think it's the worst look ever. But, like, dude, I don't. I. I'm not putting on jeans to go get a coffee or, like, you know, I just. Or here's the better question is people talk about airports. People are. Some people are like, you have to dress up at the airport. Other people, like, I would never dress up in the airport. No, I mean, I. Yeah, I don't. No, but people do. Like, when I Can I say one thing, I was, okay, I know anytime people make fun of, like, a white dude goes to Japan, and all they talk about is Japan. But every single adult male on public transportation in Japan had on a perfectly tailored, crispy suit where, like, his shirt was, like, a perfect 3/4 inch away from his suit sleeves. And, like, like, nice watch and cool glasses. And I was like, all of you are so buttoned up and, like, look so good. And the fact that it's, like, 99% of the population in Japan, I found to be astounding. I remember sitting on the bullet train, and the guy next to me, just random guy just sitting by me, and I was like, everything about what you're wearing is textbook. It is a crazy place for fashion.

[Sophie]

I like that.

[Kev]

And, yeah, and he was just going from Tokyo to Tokyo to Osaka. Perfect suit.

[Sophie]

I like that.

[Kev]

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[Sophie]

Can I just ask, what other awards are there? I feel like Kansas City got them all.

[Kev]

No, these are, this, these are like hypothetical. So it's what you. It's like what? Yeah, like people could bet on them. Now you know.

[Sophie]

Okay,

[Kev]

this isn't on here. I would like to know Patrick Mahomes, comeback player of the year. He, he tore his ACL like week 12, 13, 14. Let's see. I think it was like 12 or 13. I don't know if that. If that puts him in the bucket to be comeback player of the year, but that would be. I would like to see those odds

[Sophie]

come back Player of the Year two.

[News/Headline Contributor]

Oh, like that.

[Kev]

So, dude, yeah, let's do. Andy Reid has done amazing things, but he's already notoriously a great coach. They're never going to give him Coach of the Year unless, like as long as Patrick Mahomes is Andy Reid's quarterback, they're never going to give him Coach of the Year. I wouldn't even touch that. A defensive tackle to win Rookie of the Year. I don't see that being possible either. I think you go back to the Chiefs winning the AFC west again at +1 65, you get value here. And again the Chiefs had won it. I forget the fucking number, but it was like 10 years in a row before last year. I think full off season and then some given they were eliminated from the playoffs and Mahomes got injured and weren't in the playoffs. And a little kick in the ass last year to just kind of wakey, wakey, eggs and bakey. I like them to win the AFC west just based on. You got 15 and you got Andy Reid. I think they. I think they.

[Sophie]

Can I ask a bet question for people who know what any of this means? Okay. Because I'm a girl.

[News/Headline Contributor]

No, no. Yeah, let's do it. Let's break it down.

[Sophie]

Negative 230 means.

[Kev]

Okay, I got you here. So I was not a big. I mean, I'm. Yeah, I didn't know anything about sports betting when I started working for Bleacher Report and helped them launch BR Betting. I had all of these questions in the very beginning and it like, it's so simple but so confusing at first. So negative means what? Whatever you're putting in, you're going to get less money back because it's like something that will probably happen. So I was going to. It like is likely. So they're not going to let you bet $100 and then get $500 back if the Chiefs make the playoffs. So that's them being like, if you bet 230 bucks, we'll give you 100

[Sophie]

if it happens, plus 5,000. You're gonna get a ton of money back.

[Kev]

Yes. Because the odds of that happening very small. So once you get to plus, the plus is it means you'll. Whatever money you put in, you'll get more. But it's also probably, like, less likely to happen, if that makes sense. So when everything's right around 100, that means it's like. So like most games, they'll give you a spread. The odds are going to be close to 100 because it means they, it's, they recognize it's like, pretty even, you know?

[Sophie]

So if it's around, we'll talk more about that. And if it's not near 100 whatsoever, then it's like, crazy.

[Kev]

Yeah. So like, if they were like Patrick Mahomes to complete a pass next year, that would be like negative nine zillion. Okay, okay.

[Sophie]

I totally get that. I totally get that. Me being the quarterback for the Chiefs would be like, plus.

[Kev]

Yeah. Plus you could complete a screen, a tunnel screen inside.

[Sophie]

Okay. Yeah.

[Kev]

That segment was, that segment was brought to you by hard rock bet. That was actually very informative. That was good. Episode 38. That was good. So it is good seeing you. And we're about to get into the WNBA season. It's about to get spicy. Bye, guys.

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