Sophie Cunningham REACTS to Caitlin Clark’s TV debut + Summer House premiere hype with West Wilson

Summary

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Show Me Something – Episode 31

Sophie Cunningham REACTS to Caitlin Clark’s TV Debut + Summer House Premiere Hype with West Wilson

Release Date: February 4, 2026
Hosts: Sophie Cunningham & West Wilson
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Overview

This episode brings together WNBA and Indiana Fever star Sophie Cunningham and her longtime friend and Bravo's "Summer House" reality star West Wilson. The duo dive into candid updates from their careers, personal lives, and big events on the horizon. Sophie talks pro sports, WNBA labor negotiations, and leadership, while West shares behind-the-scenes stories from his reality TV life, including a national TV debut on Fallon and the Summer House premiere. The episode also features spirited banter about Super Bowl events, pop culture headlines, and memorable moments from sports and entertainment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up: Schedules, Self-Care, and Life Updates

• Managing Busy Schedules: Sophie and West talk about the chaos of adult scheduling and how quickly life can get hectic.
  • Sophie reveals her colorfully organized physical planner (04:27), while West admits to forgetting about the podcast recording (04:08).
  • Quote:

    “I have so much going on. … I'm really excited to just train and just get happy and healthy and, like, nice. Get in a good mental mindset, you know?”
    – Sophie Cunningham (05:03)

• Drinking and Social Life: Both discuss periods of sobriety, the fear of missing out on social gatherings, and the camaraderie tied to group drinking.
  • “The camaraderie… when the boys order beers and you're, like, missing out— that's the part that makes it hard… But it really wasn't that hard.” – West (05:53)

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2. West's Big Week: Fallon Appearance & Super Bowl

• Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon:

  • West announces he's appearing on Fallon with Lindsay (from Summer House) and Keke Palmer for a game segment called “Password” (07:08–08:36).
  • “I am going on Jimmy Fallon on the Tonight Show, which is kind of crazy.” – West (07:08)
  • He’s confident, as he’s met Fallon before, but still acknowledges the surreal aspect, especially with Keke Palmer (08:21).

• Summer House Premiere Party & Meeting Colin Cowherd:

  • West is excited for the Summer House premiere, meeting new friends at the party, and his upcoming introduction to sports media personality Colin Cowherd (09:41).
  • “I've watched Colin on my TV every single day since I was, like, a junior in college, every day. So I feel like he's like, my ankle [uncle].” – West (09:41)
  • Sophie jokes about not keeping up with sports names,
    “I'm just so bad with names… once I see the photo, I'm like, oh, duh.” – Sophie (10:11)

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3. Super Bowl & The Culture of Sporting Events

• Rehab vs. Partying: Sophie is staying home focused on healing, training, and avoiding the “Super Bowl circus.”
  • Quote:

    “It’s time for me to… get my [stuff] together… if there was a home court advantage… I'd go for the feel.”
    – Sophie (11:29–11:42)

• Home Advantage vs. Corporate Influence:
  • Spirited talk about why real fans and home-field advantage matter more than “corporate dweebs” and luxury suites (12:07-15:36).
  • “I hate boxes. I hate suites. I want to be in the damn action.” – Sophie (12:54)
  • “The only thing good about a suite is the free drinks and food.” – Sophie (14:31)
  • Comparison of World Series, NBA Finals, and Super Bowl, with both agreeing that home games with passionate fans provide the best atmosphere.

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4. Reality TV Insights: Summer House Season Debuts

• New Cast Members and Realness of the Show: Sophie and West react to the newly released 10-minute Summer House preview (16:27–17:12).

  • West lists newcomers: KJ (another Missouri native), Ben (Australian), Bailey (Seattle), and Levi (Indianapolis).
  • Sophie: “I feel like your producers… do a really good job of your casting… they just get people who are present in what they're doing.” (23:45)
  • West on authenticity:

    “If you're trying to be performative, you’d be so tired… It probably wouldn't even make the show.”
    (23:22)

• Reality TV Control:

  • Sophie talks about being approached for various reality shows and her hesitation over editing and narrative control (24:46).
  • “You have no control over if you're going to be the good guy, funny guy, bad guy… they have complete control.” – Sophie (25:05)
  • West claims Summer House is more true to cast’s personality due to round-the-clock filming.

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5. WNBA Labor Updates & Sophie’s Leadership Vision

• Negotiation Standstill & Ownership Divide: Sophie offers candid updates on WNBA player-league negotiations, highlighting executive board structure and ownership leanings (29:33–32:43).

  • “I think half our owners are player first… and the other half are more league side.” – Sophie (30:57)
  • New York, Seattle, and Phoenix are called out as top “player-first” organizations.

• Revenue Sharing & Learning from Other Leagues:

  • Sophie argues the WNBA should model after MLB, NBA, NHL best practices, focusing on contract structures (33:09).
  • “Why is the W not learning and leaning on people who are already building that type [of league]?” – Sophie (33:09)
  • She expresses frustration at the perception of the WNBA and wants more belief from league leadership.

• Commissioner Ambitions:

  • Highlight:

    “I think that one day it would be so fun to be the commissioner… If you do it in a certain way where people feel like you care and it’s about them, not about you, you can have a successful business.”
    – Sophie (36:02–36:55)

  • West: “I think that’d be sick.” (36:24)

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6. Pop Culture Headlines & Sports Moments

• Bill Belichick Snubbed from Hall of Fame (37:02)

  • West and Sophie agree personal behavior impacts professional honors.
  • “If you kind of piss people off, that might happen.” – West (37:27)
  • “You can have all the achievements, but if you're kind of an [it] person … you're not going to get what you deserved.” – Sophie (38:34)

• Caitlin Clark’s TV Debut & Reggie Miller Comparisons (41:16)

  • Sophie praises Caitlin Clark’s analyst debut:

    “She did a really good job. She was a natural up there...” – Sophie (41:16)

  • Both dismiss Reggie Miller’s comparison to Peyton Pritchard as awkward but not malicious.

• Obsessed Fanbases: Duke vs. Spurs (43:09)

  • Sophie cheers full-throttle fandom at Duke and for the Spurs:

    “I just want to hype these freaking two places up because hell yeah to getting back to having a culture and like being true fans to the game.” (43:57)

• Winter Olympics Ski Scandal (45:55)

  • They poke fun at a scandal involving Norwegian skiers, illegal crotch-stitching, and the physics of “big wieners.”
  • “Cheating is cheating. Just follow the damn rules. ... That's not even just in sports. That's just in general in life. Just follow the damn rules.” – Sophie (47:36)

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7. Listener Shout-Outs & Personal Touches

• Sophie gives a heartfelt shoutout to young fan Merritt Baker, who presented a report on her as a “famous Missourian.”

  • “It’s DMs like this that I would love just to… talk to that class and talk to little girls… to just inspire the Midwest, inspire the next generation.” – Sophie (52:44)

• Lighthearted banter about doing a future “late night, red wine pod” and sending wine from Silver Oak to co-hosts (53:21–54:22).

• Praise for teachers:

  • “Teachers deserve to get paid millions because I don't know how they do it.” – Sophie (53:15)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Sophie’s Commissioner Ambition:

  “I think that one day it would be so fun to be the commissioner… If you do it in a certain way where people feel like or people know that you care and it's about them and not about you, that you can have a successful business.”
  (36:02–36:55)

• On Reality TV Authenticity:

  "If you're trying to like be performative, you would be so tired. It would be so obvious and it probably wouldn't even make the fucking show."
  – West (23:22)

• On Fandom & Stadium Atmosphere:

  “I want to be in Chief Stadium, in Arrowhead Stadium, out in the cold with all my best friends who've been waiting years to see them get like a fucking four peat. Like, that's what you're going to remember.”
  – Sophie (13:53)

• On Sports Cheating:

  “Cheating is cheating. Just follow the damn rules. … That's not even just in sports. That's just in general in life.”
  – Sophie (47:36)

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Segment Timestamps

• WNBA & Leadership: 02:09, 29:33–36:55
• Tonight Show Announcement: 07:08
• Super Bowl & Sporting Event Discussion: 10:59–15:36
• Summer House Premiere Hype: 16:27–18:33
• Reality TV Real vs. Scripted: 23:04–26:23
• Labor Negotiations & Ownership: 29:33–34:57
• Caitlin Clark TV Debut: 41:16–42:55
• Fan Culture & Rivalries: 43:09–45:55
• Winter Olympic Ski Scandal: 45:55–48:28
• Listener/Teacher Shout-Out: 51:44–53:19
• Wine Banter & Sign-off: 53:21–54:22

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Tone & Vibe

• Conversational, irreverent, and deeply personal: Sophie and West lean into their “bestie” chemistry, sharing inside jokes (“Jimmy O’Fallon”), a little friendly roasting, and earnest pep talks.
• Emotionally candid and unfiltered: They don’t shy away from frustrations (with sports business or reality TV), but always bring it back to true fandom, empowerment, and elevating each other and their communities.
• Pop culture savvy meets locker room storytelling: Listeners get slices of both Sophie’s WNBA world and West’s Bravo reality stardom with an authentic, lived-in perspective.

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For New Listeners

If you want a real, unfiltered look into both professional sports and reality TV—from the business of basketball to behind-the-scenes in Bravo’s Summer House—this episode delivers laughs, heated debates, and honest reflections on navigating the public spotlight. It’s as rewarding for diehard sports fans as it is for pop culture junkies or anyone craving a slice of authentic Midwest friendship.

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Transcript

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[Sophie Cunningham]

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[Sophie Cunningham]

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[West]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Sophie Cunningham]

Now here's my thing and I think maybe I'm speeding this into existence. People are probably gonna make fun of me, but I have seen the league when it hasn't had this and like I'm in the process of seeing where this thing could be and I think that I truly do. I'm learning the business. I know the sport. I think that one day it would be so fun to be the commissioner. Let me say this.

[West]

I think that'd be sick.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. And I know that is a tough job, and I know that there is probably a lot more that goes on behind the scenes, and I get that. But I also think that when you are collaborative and you want the product to be successful, that you find a way to put people first and still run the business. And that doesn't mean you're always going to line and agree, but I think if you do it in a certain way where you feel that people feel like or people know that you care and it's about them and not about you, that you can have a successful business. Foreign.

[West]

Episode 31 of the show Me Something podcast with West Sophie and the lovely friends and family at Arby's. God bless.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude, it's been a minute. We need to get our. Our ish together, because, guys, Sophie, last.

[West]

Week, she's gonna say we. She's about to say, I had to cancel.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No, I had to, because I thought I could make it work, but my schedule. Okay, tell Wes. Tell me if you're like this. I feel like I will have, like, nothing on my, like, like, planned, like, nothing on my schedule. And then all of a sudden, you look and it's like, you have. You have no free time.

[West]

Yeah, things, like, sneak up. I've started doing. I showed you my picture calendar right where I put.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So hilarious.

[West]

Where I put, like, clip art pictures of, like, my friends and stuff I have to do. Yeah, that's been really helpful. But yeah, even. I mean, even, like, today I forgot we were recording, and I was, like, planning my day out, and then I was like, oh, fuck, we, like, have the pod.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But I think that's what I'm saying is, like, I, like, I have a. Like, I have a planner, like, a physical one.

[West]

Oh, that's cute.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I have to.

[West]

If you're not watching. It's. It's like a lilac with a bunch of flowers, and it probably says, like, Sophie's. Sophie's Journal or something on there.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Thank you. Target. No, just says 20, 26.

[West]

Oh, can you open it up?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[West]

Oh, that's good. Oh, wow. Oh, that's nice, guys. She writes stuff on every day and every block.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Well, it's not. I. It's not like I'm just doodling. This is, like, my schedule.

[West]

Did some people have stuff just to put on their coffee days?

[Sophie Cunningham]

These are my days.

[West]

Did you what you wrote? This is you writing?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude, I have to, like, I have so much going on. That's what I'm saying. So, like, February, I promise you this week, like, I've just been so busy, and I'm, like, really excited to just train and just, like, get happy and healthy and, like, nice. Get in a good mental mindset, you know?

[West]

What state are you in?

[Sophie Cunningham]

I'm in Arizona right now.

[West]

Okay.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So this is my February, as of now. That say on there? Oh, yeah, you guys can see all that.

[West]

Wait, did you know I didn't drink until yesterday? For January, I drank at the Montana state weekend. And I, I, I, I made it all the way to the end.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Okay. Can I ask you a question?

[West]

Yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Don't, like, now that you maybe drank and you wake up, don't you, like, you don't miss that feeling of how you felt probably this morning? Or if you do, you're a sick fuck. Oh, okay, good.

[West]

No, of course not. It's not hard unless you're, like, out. Like, to me, the camaraderie of, like, when the boys all order beers and you're, like, missing out. That's the part where I'm always like, like, I want to do. I want to, like, cheers or, like, if everyone gets, like, a shot or something. The, the, like, team aspect of drinking. I sound so insane right now. Is like, I. That's the part that makes it hard, you know, where you have to be, like, the odd man out. But it really wasn't that. It wasn't that hard. I could have kept going if I needed to.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No. A thousand percent. And like, that's the. But I. Because I get what you're saying, because I did not drink for a while, too. And then everyone, like, you're around the environment, you're like, oh, yeah, let's have a good time. And then I woke up that next morning, I'm like, dude, this I didn't.

[West]

Yeah, not even worth it.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No, agreed. Agreed. Yeah, but okay. Anyway, I want to get to. We were talking about schedules. You have an awesome freaking day today. Tuesday.

[West]

But also today's Tuesday. Tuesday.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Taco Tuesday. Let's just get into it because I just am, like, this is super exciting for you, first of all. Also, like, Yeah, I don't know. Just like, the networking and the connections. What you're going to do this weekend is going to bring, I feel like, is super cool.

[West]

Okay. So today I don't even know. They haven't told me if I can say it. If I can't say it. But I'm going to say it because I think, who cares? I am going on Jimmy Fallon on the Tonight show, which is kind of crazy.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That's amazing. That is like. That is like. That is maybe one of, like, the most exciting things like, that you have done that, like, I'm getting excited about for this big time.

[West]

It is. And, like, you did Good Morning America.

[Pop Culture Host]

What?

[West]

November. And so now we're doing this, like, a lot of just, like, staple shows that, like, have, like, never get old, and they're pretty timeless and very, like, nationally recognized.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So just you or who?

[West]

It's me, Lindsay from my show and Keke Palmer. So, like, if. Google Kiki. Kev, can you pull up a picture of Kiki Paul?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, I know who that is. I'm just blanking. Yeah, who is that? No. Kevin Puller.

[Pop Culture Host]

She's like.

[West]

She's like an actress. Okay, like, very funny.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Okay.

[West]

It's us three. And so my dad kept asking me, like, I'm the showrunner for the show. He was like, so who's like, are you sitting down in the chair? We're with him. And then you guys are going over to play your game or whatever. And I was like, dude, I don't know. I show up, but.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Because you've been to dinner with him and his wife before.

[West]

Yeah, that's the main reason I'm, like, not nervous. I. I should be, probably, but I feel, like, very. I feel, like, not worried about, like, I feel good. And he's like. He's, like, so nice.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh, okay. Wait, why. Why is she.

[West]

I don't know. I, like, have no idea why it's us three. But it. It'll be fun. And we're playing some game called, like, Password, and you, like, have you, like, use a word to get someone to get, like, it's just going to be fun and silly.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude, she probably feels the same way. She's like, why the hell am these two.

[West]

Oh, dude, she doesn't know who we are. There's no. There's no way. So we do that, and then that will wrap whenever. And then I think I have, like, an hour downtime. Then we have a premiere party, and then I'll meet, like, friends, because you can only bring, like, a few people to, like, the. The official party. So then I'll meet, like, friends out at, like, a bar or whatever. And ideally not take it to too far because I have a flight to the bay on Wednesday morning for super bowl, where I get to meet for the first time ever. This is not as big of A deal to Sophie, but anyone who listens or cares about the Volume, I will be meeting Collins. I will be meeting Colin, supposedly for the first time in my life. And I don't fangirl really anymore. Sophie, like, it's not a thing I do. I try not.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I know.

[West]

It's. I've watched Colin on my TV every single day since I was, like, a junior in college, every day. So I feel like he's like, my ankle.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Can I say something that's gonna probably get me kicked off the podcast?

[West]

Yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Kevin, can you pull up a picture of Colin? Yeah.

[West]

That's good.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Okay. I will say, though, I bet on.

[West]

This TV right now, honestly, I know.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I know who. Like, once I see the photo, I'm like, oh, duh. I'm just so bad with names. Like, I've always been horrible with names.

[West]

Yeah. That's okay.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Is it?

[West]

I think so.

[Pop Culture Host]

That's, like.

[West]

That's old. Top left. That's a good one.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, you're gonna. Wait. When are you gonna meet him? Sorry, there's so.

[West]

There's a Volume party Wednesday night, so I'll be at that one without you. Sad.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I know. Well, I was actually maybe gonna come up.

[West]

We talked about this in New York. You're re. You're in a good space. You're rehabbing seasons. Close.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I need to. I just need to get my stuff together. And honestly, this is. No, I'm not even gonna say that on TV or on podcasts. I was gonna say, if the Chiefs are playing, I would 100% be there.

[West]

Oh, yeah, you can say that. That's so fine.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I don't think I'm allowed to say that.

[West]

That's completely.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I'm very thankful for our Volume family, you know?

[West]

So, yeah, I will also. But going to a Super bowl, if your team's in, it makes way more sense. I'm, like, not a big Super Bowl. Like, truth. Like, I think the World Series, NBA Finals, anything that is, like, has, like, home games is so much cooler than a neutral site with, like, corporate people and, like, influencers. Like, it's. It's not that sick.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Here's my. Yeah, I think, like, if I'm physically gonna go and, like, let me say, if I was not rehabbing and stuff like, that, I would 100 be there. But I just feel like my month of January has been so crazy. Like, it's time for me to kind of, like, get my together.

[West]

No, as you. I. I'll support you.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yes. And so. But I will say, like, if It. If there was, like, a home court advantage and that type of, like. I think I go for the feel. I. I feel like everyone who always goes to the super bowl, they always say it's just so, like, who's who. Very like, it is. And everyone. I don't care what anyone says. Everybody always is like, it was boring. I'm like, why am I gonna waste all my time and energy to go do that and just, like, put on a fake face and be around people I don't even want to be around?

[West]

Yeah. And not to get. Not to, like, get on my, like, fourth NFL soapbox in a row. But people have been saying, like, should because. Did you watch the Pats Broncos game in the snowstorm?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. That was awesome.

[West]

Okay. So awesome. But everyone's like, it's it. It, like, makes it harder for the players. We don't get to see them to their full abilities. And they're like, people are pitching, moving nfc, AFC championship games to neutral sites with domes. And I'm like, you fucking people are so soft. Like, I know. I've. Again, I've said this 100 times in a row. Football is an outdoor sport. One, two. These teams got home field advantage for a fucking reason. Don't move it to another city where it's just going to be rich people. For the love of God.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I think we've hit on this. We've hit on the. Sorry, there's a bug. We've hit on this before. But I think when you get to a certain level, and I hate saying this because it's dumb and I don't want to sound like this, but when you get to a certain level of notoriety and, like, you can't just sit at a game and people not bother you, they typically move you to boxes or, like, suites and stuff like that. And, like, I get it. And like, I feel like when you're not to that level, you're like, oh, I want to be up there. No, you don't. You want to be in action. I hate boxes. I hate sweets. I want to be in the damn action. And so when people are like, oh, let's move it to a dome. Or like, in, like, especially the super bowl, everyone's, like, has their suite. And, like, that's so boring. Like, I want to be in Chief Stadium, in Arrowhead Stadium, out in the cold with all my best friends who've been waiting years to see them get, like a fucking four peat. Like, that's what you're going to remember. You're going to remember the cold you're going to remember the frickin frostbite on your. I don't know.

[West]

That's why I again not to bring up Arrowhead. But like they'll, they will for sure make suites for or like annoying sections on lower levels in the new stadium. And the reason Arrowhead rocks now is because the lower levels are people who are standing up, yelling and like in the mix. They're not like quiet fucking rich dorks. I'll also say yeah now when I go to Chiefs games, if they give me tickets, they go do you want like suite level or down low? And I'm like, I don't want to be in a suite. I don't want to be with people wearing suit jackets. I want fudgeing some dude with a quarterback from like the early 2000s jersey on.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude. Can I just say though, the only thing, yeah, the only thing good about a suite is the free drinks and food. Yeah, no, but how, how can we create an environment where like you're in it with like all the, you know, the biggest fans but also free alcohol and free food?

[West]

The only way. Okay, here's. I don't think that football should do this or would do this or could do this. The only way you could get home games for a championship in the NFL would be if you did like a three game series and then you did one, one, one which would be nuts. But you, you still can't play.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That will never happen.

[West]

Like no, it'll never happen. No one's body that then that makes, that adds three weeks to it. It's like not possible where you could do that for basketball and baseball. But I do. That's why I think like I think the World Series is one of the, the better sporting events ever. Because that's when baseball stadiums are full and people are like so like the stakes are so high and it's in a home stadium and so you get like real fans and it's not just corporate, you know, dweebs. So.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Did I hear you? I hear you. I think we're on the same page about that. All right, you guys coming in hot? The Daytona 500 is fast approaching and this is one of those events that you want to clear your schedule for.

[West]

I'm hype. Be sure to tune in to the Daytona 500 Sunday, February 15th at 2:30 Eastern Time on Fox.

[Sophie Cunningham]

You already know it's going to be chaos. Denny Hamlin, Chase, Ellie, and so many more. Trust me that that track energy hits different. It's a must watch and if you.

[West]

Really want to feel the adrenaline, like the engines, the noise, the whole vibe, the tingles in your heads and toes. Head down to the track and see it live.

[Sophie Cunningham]

It is the best years I've seen it live down there and it's amazing. So you can purchase your tickets for the Great American Race online and then customize your experience with add ons like the pre race concert featuring Miranda Lambert.

[West]

So head to Daytona internationalspeedway.com and don't miss out.

[Sophie Cunningham]

It came out. The 10 minute thing came out.

[West]

What? Wait 10 minutes.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Did I see something?

[West]

Oh, you're talking about Summer house.

[Sophie Cunningham]

The frickin 10 minute clip that came out about Summer House.

[West]

Oh yeah. What'd you learn?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh my God. Well, we learned three new. Three new characters, right?

[West]

Yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

What do you call them?

[West]

Talent people. No. Sometimes Sophie, people will say in publicly, I really love. They go, I love your character on the show. And I go, bitch, don't have a fucking character.

[Sophie Cunningham]

My bad. That's actually my fault because I know that. But no, yeah, yeah.

[West]

So yeah, kj, another Missouri boy in the house.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, yeah. Huge.

[West]

We love. He went to Lee Summit High School. Fun fact, kj, you got Ben. Australian guy. Classic Australian guy. Just like loves to have fun and just like doesn't take anything that serious.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Wait, dude, I don't think I met, I don't think I met Ben.

[West]

He might not have been in the 10 minute clip, but they've definitely dropped a clip of him entering the house.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Okay.

[West]

And then two new girls. Bailey from Seattle, Levi from Indy.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But they're best friends.

[West]

But they're friends. Yeah. So they, they've known each other. So I don't know the last time they had two people come in who like already knew each other, like and came in at the same time.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But sometimes I think that would be kind of cool.

[West]

It would be fun because you have comfortability. Yeah. But then at the same time you never know if that's gonna keep you like, keep you comfortable. And the whole point is to kind of like, you know, get outta your shell a little.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Are you giving us some like foreshadows?

[West]

No, no, no, no. That's just like, that is just an objective truth with doing stuff. Like, same thing. If you're like a twin, it's really hard to break off and like do your own thing. But yeah, it's fun. I was happy with my hair and my muscle tone in the first, in the first episode.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No, I, I'm not kidding. Like you, you look like you looked healthy, like happy and healthy. Yeah.

[West]

Good. So. Yes, Start. Start that narrative.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Okay, I got you. I'll start saying that more. What do they give you? Cars to drive? Yeah, dude, that's fun. Yeah.

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[Bowen Yang]

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[West]

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[Stu Gatz]

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[Pop Culture Host]

I love you guys show.

[West]

It's one of my favorites.

[Stu Gatz]

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[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to, but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast? Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoff. The Chiefs.

[West]

What's a wrap?

[Nav Green]

It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now, then?

[West]

Drake May up there.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Josh Allen up there still.

[West]

Oh, my boy, Matthew Stafford.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Where did Bo Nicks at?

[West]

He ain't too far behind.

[Sophie Cunningham]

He did all this talking.

[West]

Hey, what Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy.

[Nav Green]

Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Staff forgot better web. Caleb Williams.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation?

[Nav Green]

Listen to broken play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or whatever. You get your podcast.

[West]

Well, one, we need big car. Like, none of us have cars. We don't own cars. So, yeah, we need that. And then the big SUVs just obviously, so, like, we can load up our stuff. But then also we use them throughout the weekend to, like, if we're going to whatever club or bar or beach or whatever. Like, the bigger the car, the more people we can fit. So.

[Pop Culture Host]

Yeah.

[West]

Yeah, but they're just like your standard big black suv.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So when I first. When I watched it, the news of, like, Amanda and Kyle already broke. And so now you can just tell, like, even that first 10 minutes how annoyed Amanda is.

[West]

I know.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, you don't have to talk about. But it's just. And I'm not the only one. Like, clearly, if you have any type of common sense, you can tell. But, like, yeah, I'm wondering if, like, that's gonna be it throughout the whole, like, kind of summer of like.

[West]

I. There's obviously, like, good and bad moments all the time and just kind of. You just never know what's gonna, like, make the. The episode.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But so you guys. So you guys really don't. You don't know what the whole first episode is going to look like or the whole second episode is going to look like.

[West]

No, but picture this. Okay? So, like, you film the show, and it's three straight days, just, like, in the house. And then. Then whenever it comes out, you watch it and you realize, like, 90% of my existence in the house, like, didn't make the episode to get made.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[West]

So then when you go back in, you're like, there's no reason to try to do anything because you don't know what's going to make it. And probably most everything you say and do will not even make it. So that's why I. Again, like, our show is because everyone has no choice but to just, like, be themselves. If you're trying to like be performative, you would be so tired. It would be so obvious and it probably wouldn't even make the fucking show.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Well, I feel like casting your life, your producers and the people who run your show. I think they do a really good job of your casting though. Of like they just get people who. I don't know. I mean some people aren't back from last year, but I'm just saying, like, I feel like overall they do a pretty good job of people who are present in what they're doing.

[West]

Yeah, yeah. Like people who aren't trying to, to. To like be anything that they're not. I, I agree. And I also think like again, the show just the way it works, where it's like you're in a house that shit's GoPro. Like you, you really don't have a choice but to like just like let your guard down and be yourself, you know?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[West]

Or like every other show. Imagine you had to make a whole season out of like dinners and lunches and you shouldn't like start. Stop it just it to me, I would fucking hate it. I. I like the way ours.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Well, it's not, it's not as, as authentic.

[West]

No. Because you're on and off. You're like on off, on, off. And like I just feel like it's so. It's weird.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But. So the only thing, the only reason why I don't think I've ever done reality TV because I've been asked to do a lot of shows really? And.

[West]

Oh yeah, like, like sports stuff or non sports stuff?

[Sophie Cunningham]

All of it. Like, like if you like not just sports stuff. Probably more not sports stuff than sports stuff.

[West]

Are you to say like what they would be man versus food.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That'd be awesome. No. I don't even know now but I think more. Mine was more like the. The Love island, the Love is Blind, the. But they're all like reality TV shows. But I feel like the only reason why I've never done those is because. And I don't. I think I'd be fine. But they have the people running it have the complete control to create your character and make you pan you out. How you. How like you have no control over if you're going to be the good guy, funny guy, bad guy, any of that. You know what I mean?

[West]

Yeah. I would say though, from having done this now for a little bit, I feel like the way our show plays out, like they edit it true to who you are. Like if they're crashing out, like they will show you being like the person who's crashing out the whole summer. And like, I, I like to think like, I'm not really like confrontational and like someone who argues and fights. I just like to like make silly jokes and like, yeah, have fun. Like that's kind of how they, they portray like the silliness aspect of it.

[Sophie Cunningham]

And for sure, but I feel like.

[West]

Goofy but also a like messy idiot. Like that is how, like I think, I think they portray everyone like pretty true to who they are. I like that because that's, that's like natural.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No, but, but not all shows are like that though. No.

[West]

Yeah, true, you know, true, true, true. Yeah, totally. Yeah, totally.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Hey duders. Arby's just pulled up with a new deal and trust me, you're going to love it.

[West]

The meat in three box is going crazy for 7.99. Sophie, break it down.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Okay, so step one, you pick your sandwich. You either have a crispy chicken or a classic roast beef. You really can't go wrong with either one.

[West]

And then they start piling it on. You're getting those signature Arby's curly fries, some melty mozzarella sticks and a peach cobbler roll, which honestly needs its own segment.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That peach cobbler rol. MVP of the box. Low key.

[West]

And you know, big arbs got you on the drink also. So it's called the meat in three, but in real life that's about five items.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude. Five things for 7.99. And this isn't a still starving an hour later meal. This actually fills you up.

[West]

And it's all Arby's classics. You can't get anywhere else.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So if you're grabbing lunch, dinner, or just need something that really hits the Meat in three box is the move.

[West]

Hot girl of the week. My hot girl of the week is my, my Arby's hot girl of the week. Don't let me forget the most important part is Kim Hayes, my good friend Mitch's girlfriend, now fiance. She threw him a birthday party for his 30th birthday this past weekend. And it was a roast. So she got five of his best friends like two months ahead of time to prepare full blown roasts for him. And everyone was like so funny, so good. Like the whole bar was like on the floor laughing and everyone ended their roast, obviously like a really nice like birthday wish, but she organized the whole thing. It was a surprise. There was like a banner and it was really wholesome and like a great, great birthday she pulled off for all of our good friend Mitch. So Kim Hayes is my hot girl of the week shout out. Kim.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I love that. That's so nice. I'm gonna go. My Arby's hot girl of the week is one of my really good friends, Katrina Barrett. She is. Yeah, she's awesome. West, you would love her. Love, love, love. She's a complete baddie, and she freaking kills the real estate market. I think she's, like, top 10 in the whole country of selling luxury real estate, and she is. She just kills it. But something that I really like about her, it's not how she looks, it's not her money, but what she does is she gives back and she highlights businesses and people and, like, really pours into other people because she wants them to be just as successful. And I think that is so cool because I think people at her level, they want to, like, you know, maybe step on other people so they can stay on top. But she is all about empowering, like, everybody, and I think that is just so special and so cool. And she's had. She's fun, too. Like, any concert, anything around the Valley or really around the country that you want to go to, she's like, how many tickets do you need? What can I do for you? She's all about just giving back, and so I just want to highlight her and tell her she's a complete badass and a beautiful human.

[West]

So, yeah, dude, that rock.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, she's awesome. Anyway, hey, back to what we were saying. You have a really cool week coming.

[West]

Up, I will say. Also, there's a new girl in summer house from Indianapolis, so if anyone listens to the show who's like, a big Fever fan, her name's Levi.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude. Wait, so. Well, we. Hey, we did just have. Sorry, did I just scare you a little.

[West]

I just thought. I. I thought I wasn't even allowed to say Fever because you're still.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Say whatever you want. But we did just have, like, a meeting yesterday, and I. I'm not going to go into detail because I don't really know what I'm supp. But negotiations are in process to get things moving in hopes of getting it moving, because it has not been moving at all. It's been at a very. I knew. Standstill.

[West]

I knew that much.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. But I think, yeah, both sides are kind of getting, you know, frustrated, but I know us players are holding our ground, so it should be interesting.

[West]

Who does the negotiations for stuff like that? Is it, like, just leaders, like, of players who have these roles? Or is. Are. Are your guys agents? Also? No fighting in the front Lines like how does actually.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Good question. So we have an executive board on the players association side. And so we have like lawyers and consultants and all these types of people. And then we have like actual players who are on the exec board. And so those are the ones who are like always in talks and in negotiations. And then on the league side, it's like Kathy and then she. Some of the owners are sitting in. They're all in talks, though. So it's like they pick and choose who they want to sit kind of on the front line, but everyone is kind of involved if you want.

[West]

Do you. Do you think that owners are, are more lean towards players or lean towards Kathy in the league?

[Sophie Cunningham]

So I think that there's kind of what it seems like, and I don't know this for 100% fact, but from my perspective, it seems like that half of our owners are player first and really wanting to invest and the other half are more league side. But it's weird because they do want to invest, but you just don't have owners who are willing to spend. I guess. But yeah, I do.

[West]

Like, is there anyone in the WNBA who is like, by far and away the owner who like, gives back the most, like, puts the most into their team?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Like, yeah, I feel like, like everyone.

[West]

Is like, I really want to play for this organization.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yes. I feel like at the front line, owners who are most involved, I would say right now would be New York, Seattle and Phoenix. Like, they are very. They have.

[West]

I knew was going to be one.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yes. And they're awesome. Their ownerships are completely awesome. They are very player first. They know that, you know you're going to maybe lose a little money on the front end, but you'll get it back if you invest. But like, at the end of the day, depending on where these negotiations go, like, if you, if you give these players what they want, you're going to get all the best players, therefore you're going to win, therefore your ticket sales are going to be up, everything's going to be up, but it all comes back down to revenue share. And so I get it. And like, to be honest, I totally understand the business side of things of like, you know, you. The W has not always made money, and so there's still a big old chunk of money that has lost. And so how do you give these owners who are wanting and willing to invest, still try to give them some profit, but also investing in the current product now? And so it is, it is difficult and complicated, but I just feel like there, there has to be a way to meet in the middle. And so.

[West]

But that's what these negotiations are, is finding where that middle is. Yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

And that's where all the. That's where no one aligns. That's the problem.

[West]

Right.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So.

[West]

Interesting.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Who knows?

[West]

Well, the WNBA is not the first league to, like, go through this. I'm curious if you were to look back on any other leagues like, that had either lockouts or negotiations, like where. Like where the final say fell, you know?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. So I will say that just from meetings I've been in, stuff I've been doing off court, I've been around a lot of NHL people, a lot of NBA people, a lot of MLB people. And everyone's like, like, why are people. And maybe they are behind the scenes, but, like, why are you guys not using what we've already built? Like, this is a successful business. So why. Why is the W not learning and leaning on people who are already building that type? And I get it. Everyone's like, well, you're not the men. We know that. But there's still things in those contracts and what they do in their leagues that could be very beneficial for us as players and for the league. And so I just. That's where I just don't understand. But honestly, it sucks because it's like our. How our negotiation, all that, how that's going. It's like we're the laughing stock of sports right now. And I'm like, that is so effing typical.

[West]

I don't think that that's true, though, because you guys are in this point because you've. Because things are so different than they have been. Like, the reason no one knows what the fuck to do is because the WNBA the last three years has, like, been on a whole new level than it ever was. So people are confused. So, you know, like, I get it, but also it's because of. Of six recent success.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh, yeah. No, like, it is a really good thing why we're in this position. But I think the. We're not aligning on why we're in this position. And where, like, comes. It just comes back to revenue share. You know what I mean? Like, they think they're. It was them. And it's like everyone else around the whole world's like, it's not, you know, like, it's just. I don't know.

[West]

No, I think about when Kathy said. Who from. Was it who from Minnesota gave that speech and like, called out Nafisa. Nafisa. And basically said Kathy was like, yeah, Caitlin's where she is because of the wnba. Like, that whole thing. And that makes sense to everything you're saying.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Like, can I just say, don't be.

[West]

Why it's any.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Any cool. Any time you're in a position of leadership. Yes, but just like in a position to influence and empower other people. For some reason, our league doesn't do that. They want. Everyone wants to be the star, right? Like, everyone wants, like to be so self centered where it's like, no, like they are commissioner right now. Even though we're not agreeing on negotiations or barely even talking at all. Like, she could still go on other social media platforms and like, be like, hey, I believe in our product. I love our product. I want our product to have everything. Like, like go out there and speak positively and happy and like proud of your product. Because that gives off a different feel than just not saying anything and acting like we don't exist. You know what I mean? Like, there's ways to be a, a servant leader and we're just missing that servant part of leadership.

[West]

If you were the commissioner for a day right now, do you have. Do you have like plans? Like, if someone put a mic in front of your face and said, how do you fix this?

[Sophie Cunningham]

So here, here's my thing. And I think maybe I'm speaking this into existence. People are probably going to make fun of me, but I have seen the league when it hasn't had this. And like, I'm in the process of seeing where this thing could be. And I think that I truly do. I'm learning the. I know the sport. I think that one day it would be so fun to be the commissioner. Let me say this.

[West]

I think that'd be sick.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. And I know that is a tough job and I know that there is probably a lot more that goes on behind the scenes and I get that. But I also think that when you are collaborative and you want the product to be successful, that you find a way to put people first and still run the business. And that doesn't mean you're always going to align and agree. But I think if you do it in a certain way where you feel that people feel like or people know that you care and it's about them and not about you that you can have a successful business.

[West]

Totally freaking Kev Beast. Should we hop into some pop culture momis?

[Pop Culture Host]

All right, guys, I got some moments for you here.

[West]

Yeah.

[Pop Culture Host]

Our first headline was Bill Belichick snubbed from the hall of Fame. He fell short of the 40 votes needed for the 50 person selection. It's his first year eligible, so next year he could still make it. He obviously has won six of his eight career Super Bowls, but obviously things like Spygate, deflate gate stuff with Jordan Hudson. I don't know. How do you guys feel about Bill not getting his gold jacket the first time around?

[West]

This is clearly a thing where you decide if, if hall of fame should be objective or subjective. He, yes, he'll make the hall of Fame, but like, no one likes him and he's been kind of weird and like a dick towards media. The girlfriend stuff is weird. His UNC career is bizarre. Like, not to shout out fucking Colin two days before I see him. But he broke it down. Like, I mean, if you rub people the wrong way for so long, like it's. You might not get a perfect fudgeing voting ballot. Like, he'll make it and he'll get what he deserves. But I think if you kind of piss people off, that might happen.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That's what I was going to say. How you treat people is definitely. If you're gonna get, you know, maybe what you want and you can't live and die. Like, everyone knows that. He's like, he's a phenomenal coach. He's damn near legend. But how you treat people and the people, I don't know, like, you gotta treat people right and does everything that he's done. He's just weird. I feel like it's weird.

[West]

I agree. I totally agree.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But you can have all the achievements, but if you're kind of a IT person, then most likely you're not going to get probably what you deserved. Yeah.

[West]

And I also didn't say, yeah, they got in trouble for cheating like three times when he was with the Patriots. That's like, I don't. Again, he'll still make the hall of Fame. But to be like, oh my God, I can't believe he didn't get unanimous votes. Like, dude, these people have like careers in journalism and knowing football and like, if you get in trouble for cheating, holy fuck, like, wait a year, you.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Know, but here's my thing. If you get in trouble for cheating, not one, not two, three years, does that not say anything?

[West]

Deflategate. Spygate. And like, I'm sure there, I'm, there's something I'm forgetting. But, but more than one instance.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, like that does that, does that not. Like, how is that like morally ever?

[West]

Okay, Harbaugh got suspended from the NCAA for the, the filming signs things for like, dude, it's like for a 40 year ban or something from the NCAA, which is why he's in the NFL now.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That's what I'm saying. Like, if you're being a. Why are you up at. Why are you at the highest level? I just. People do not have common sense. I just don't get it.

[Pop Culture Host]

So I think it was like 14 years, this horrible NCAA band.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Do you guys think that if he was dating someone more of his age, that that might help with his respect?

[Pop Culture Host]

I. I don't think it's like the smoking gun. I think. You know what's crazy now, at first I was like, so up in arms about it, like, he's clearly a first ballot hall of Famer. But when you look back, like, cheating is cheating, right? We got to dock you a little bit for that shit. And then just having, like, the weird girlfriend thing and having her be, like, front page, front and center at, like, the hall of Fame ceremony would be kind of wild.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So, Kevin, you're not answering me. Do you think that if he had someone of a more respectable age, that that would maybe kind of turn.

[West]

I think if it was just that alone, it wouldn't be enough to get him in trouble. But that on top of all the other. Oh, yeah, personal weird shit is like a cherry on top of. And so that's what I'm saying.

[Pop Culture Host]

Yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Do you think her being 50 years younger than him, that that's kind of like, oh, that's the last straw.

[West]

I think it just adds to people being weirded out by him and being like, this guy's strange, you know?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. All right, so next.

[Pop Culture Host]

All right, second headline here. Caitlin Clark. She made her analyst debut on NBA on NBC. She also made for some viral moments because Reggie Miller compared her to Peyton Pritchard of the Boston Celtics. He averages 10 points per game for his career, although he's having a good year this year, is averaging 17 points per game. Obviously, Caitlin Clark's the face of this league. Was that, like, somewhat of a backhanded compliment from another Indiana legend?

[Sophie Cunningham]

First of all, I think she did a really good job. She was a natural up there. Very. I mean, she's a dweeb, so she knows the game. So that's. That's no shock. I personally love Reggie. And did you. Hey, did you see his Jimmy o' Fallon clip of him dancing? Yes. Yeah, I like.

[West]

Did you just say Jimmy O. Fallon or. Yes, my dad's been saying Jimmy O. Fallon all weekend. That is really funny. He's an Irish man.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I don't know why.

[West]

Hello, Jimmy O. Fallon.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I just Nailed my head. I did just say, Wes, it's going.

[Pop Culture Host]

To stick in your head. You're walking there when you.

[West]

No, my dad. Yeah, I think so.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Don't do that, Wes. Don't. Don't do that. But anyway, his dance was awesome. But I think, like, kind of knowing Reggie a little bit. I don't think he meant any harm by it. But I do think, like, probably not the best comparison for like the generational player that Caitlyn is. But again, like, I don't. I don't think she took a personal. I don't think anyone would really take it personal, but I don't know if I would compare him to her.

[West]

I don't like the Prichard and Clark comparison. I think that's a little. Yeah, but I. I've. I've met Reggie before too, and I don't. He wouldn't mean that in like a rude way. It just kind of. He's awesome for him at the time. Yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, he's awesome.

[West]

Yeah. Plus he's in Indianapolis. Like, he played in Indy too. He's like, not trying to, like, throw digs that I think he just. It just kind of happened.

[Pop Culture Host]

I forget.

[West]

What did he say specifically? Just like takes. I don't even remember. I just. That's not the guy.

[Pop Culture Host]

Yeah, it was a little bit of a stretch there, but, Reggie, you're still allowed on this pod. You're still good over here, buddy.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, Reggie's the best.

[West]

That would be a fun one.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So, hey, I'll text him. I'll hook it up.

[Pop Culture Host]

Could be crazy.

[West]

Let's do it.

[Pop Culture Host]

I want to see a three point shootout. Reggie Miller, Sophie Cunningham.

[West]

Yeah, dude, me and Kev on the other end of the other end of the floor.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Layups.

[Pop Culture Host]

You're rebounding. We'll be rebounding. All right, guys, got another one for you here. All right, Crazier fan base here. I'm going to give you two. So obviously Duke, the Cameron craziest right now, students have started camping out in these large tents. 12 person tent, max. They need to be in here 24, seven hours a day. And they're all waiting for two months in advance of a UNC ticket. Duke, UNC. Two highly ranked teams. So kids are already camping out. So are they crazier than these motherfuckers. Spurs fans. They're called the jackals. It cost $100 to join this fan group. They've all shaved their heads recently to support Victor Wembanyama, who also shaved his head. And there need to be tryouts for These spots and apparently these few hundred guys have made it. So can I crazy shoot to do. Come down the tent or shave your head.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I'm going to start. I don't even want to compare these two because I just love that people are back and fucking like full fans of their college and of like the NBA. I feel like the culture of sports in general in college have changed a lot because of the betting and because of the transfer portal because of the nil. And so to see fans at the collegiate level camping out and wanting to be huge fucking fans, hell yeah to them going to the NBA. NBA is down views horribly this year. Like it's, it's bad. The all Star is going to be just trying to. What they're trying to do with the format of that is just terrible. Like they're just trying to come up with anything. But to see fans in it in part of like their city, in it for the like the players, the team. I don't even want to compare the two. I just want to hype these freaking two places up because hell yeah. To getting back to having a culture and like being true fans to the game.

[West]

So yeah, cosign I think college sports is in a weird place and like to have people holding on to rivalries and traditions is a massive, massive, massive poll for college sports. So shout out honestly to those people the NBA. I don't really think of the NBA as like a passionate fan base. I think people like player I I to me, the NBA like San Antonio, they don't have any other teams there. I get it. The NBA. To me, I think of people, it's almost more pop culture where people are like celebrity obsessed and kind of into it to like see Lebron. It's all these things that don't have anything to do with like teams winning. Which has kind of been my gripe with the NBA for a long time. So yeah, if there's anything that NBA fans are doing to pull for their team in their city, I admire it because I think that that is lacking in the W area. Excuse me, in the NBA. So shout out to those brothers shaving their heads.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I love it.

[Pop Culture Host]

Another headline for you here. It's actually a big ski scandal. It's affecting the Winter Olympics. So three Norwegian officials have suspended two skiers and some coaches for illegal stitching in the crotch area. As you can see in this picture here with the crotch full scene down, additional weight in the crotch area can make up to 5 meters of a difference in jump. So what do you guys think about.

[West]

Cheating okay, so are we saying if you have a big DNBs tucked in your. In your ski pants, it's better for you?

[Pop Culture Host]

Yeah, it's going to give you. It's going to look when you. When you jump. It's going to give you, I guess.

[West]

The girth for better.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I'm just speaking for the female population. We just want to know who can jump the. Or jump the farthest in the highest.

[West]

Well, you'd think that a big package in this would. Would block wind, like, would be wind resistance, and that it would make the wind have to, like, go around your balls. So it's interesting to know on the flip side that weight can also, like, be beneficial here.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So are you. Are you a far jumper or you can't really jump too far?

[West]

I'm more of a. I'm more of like. Yeah, a. A far jumper straight ahead. I'm not. Yeah, I'm not going for width. I'm going for distance.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Well, we're talking about skiing, so I don't know why we'd be going for width. Anyway, I was just wondering. So I'd be great if you're a far jumper. If you're a. A short distance type of guy.

[Pop Culture Host]

We're about to see. Sophie is silent, reporting for the Winter Olympics. Hey, guys, I'm here.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Wow, look at that long jump and those big skis.

[West]

Wow.

[Sophie Cunningham]

All right, ladies. There is no ring on that finger. That's actually interesting. But I will say, I think when it comes to Olympics, and I feel like foreign countries always have a huge issue with cheating because they can never really compete with the top people who are typically from the United States. Cheating is cheating. Just follow the damn rules. Like, I think that's not even just in sports. That's just in general in life. Just follow the damn rules. And like, sometimes.

[West]

And you've got a big wiener. It's just. It's. It's. Scott, it's not even you. You're not cheating then. Yeah, but it's just life.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That's what I'm saying. But, like, if rules need to change, then just talk about it. Everyone come to the same. But I think if there is a standard and there's rule, just follow it.

[West]

Agreed.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Idiots.

[West]

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[Sophie Cunningham]

Wait, so are you going for Seattle or the Patriots?

[West]

Yes, Seattle. Seattle. They have a one of my teammates. It plays for them. So we're.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I love that. Well, we can be on the same page because there's actually three Mizzou Tigers on the Seahawks and one of them was my best friend in college, Drew Loc. He is like a backup quarterback and so I would love to see my Mizzou boys win a frickin Super Bowl. So I'm actually going to go for the Seahawks too.

[West]

And that segment was brought to you by Hard Rock bet.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Hey, real quick. I totally forgot before we end this podcast that I had a mom reach out and I'm just going to read this DM because I think it's so cute. It says my 9 year old daughter has to present a project on famous Missourians and refuse and she refuses to do any one else rather than Sophie Cunningham. And so the mom reached out and said, can I please get a shout out for Merritt Baker in Ms. Allen's third grade class at Roosevelt elementary she loves so much and it would mean everything. She goes, I try to pay for a cameo but she isn't on there anymore. So that's my bad. I definitely don't do cameos more. But I really do want to shout out Merritt.

[West]

And then yeah, I remember my famous Missourian project in fourth grade. I did Jesse James. The training you did.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I can't remember who I did. I kind of think I did Walt Disney.

[West]

Yeah, he's a kind of canceled now sort of because they found out a lot of bad stuff about him. But he's like, definitely. If you Google famous Missourians, He's. He's top 10 always.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. No, yeah. So like I, I think that is so cute. And I wish that for everyone who reaches out. Like, I just don't really see my DMs anymore, unfortunately. But it's, it's DMs like this that I would love just to like, like talk to that class and talk to little girls because I think it's so special. I don't know, Wes, you kind of know what I'm saying? To just like inspire the Midwest, inspire the next generation of. They can do whatever they want. So I just want to shout out Merritt Baker and Ms. Allen surgery class. Nothing but love for me and West.

[West]

Shout out Mrs. Allen too for holding it down. Baby did I.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Teachers deserve to get paid millions because I don't know how they do it.

[West]

Couldn't agree more.

[Sophie Cunningham]

All right, bestie boys. I think that the next time we do a podcast, I'm going to send you some silver oak wine. Have you guys had it? No, dude, it is so good. So it is a company and they have, like, the best sauvignon. Like, actually, I shouldn't even say that. They just have good wine in general. And so tell me what you guys want and I will send it. But it is a beautiful bottle. It tastes like juice, and I think that's something that we should have on set next time, and we can have a little bit of fun on our podcast.

[West]

Let's do a little late night red wine pot and get cozy. We could wear. We could wear cozy earth robes and light candles.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude, I'm not kidding.

[West]

Oiled bodies.

[Sophie Cunningham]

What are we doing?

[Pop Culture Host]

Silver?

[Sophie Cunningham]

I was like, I want. I don't want to be a part of that.

[West]

We're like, it's a live show.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, Live show. Yeah. But no, seriously, I'm excited. And they're just cool freaking people, too. They're just solid. So I'm going to send you guys some bottles, and we should do a night podcast. Sipping on some land so down.

[West]

That was it. Episode 31. Show me something podcast.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Later, Wes. Divas, first of all, go kill it tonight on your show. Thank you.

[Pop Culture Host]

Thank you.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. Happen at the super bowl.

[West]

Later, Beast.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Foreign. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.