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Another thing, I don't know why this reminded me of just like games you asking about Bria, but I'm officially three for three on being fined by the wnba.
C
Holy shit. For this? For the pod again?
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They didn't like my comments on Paige Beckers.
C
No way.
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I didn't even say anything. Bad.
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Week four. I won't even like hop around and fake small talk. I think everyone probably wants to know how you're feeling and what's going on. I'll say before you even talk. I know you're a tough girl. That looked painful.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So you can. If you want to run me through.
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The play, I will. So the news is about to drop, so we're okay to talk about this, but I did tear my McLaren and if you're gonna hurt your knee, that is like the best possible case. And so, you know, this year, just as a whole, like I think the league as a whole, but really us, we've just gone through so much adversity and then injury wise has just been like, you can't make this shit up, to be honest. And so during Connecticut's game on Sunday, I was just in the paint trying to be help side and someone ran into my knee and it just snapped like when. And knee injuries are weird to me. Like, I don't really like thinking about, but I felt a pop right away. And so I'm really in good spirits because I knew that I. I hurt myself pretty good. Um, but I will say I'm just like, thankful. I know this is not probably the time to say this, but I'm just thankful to like, be where I'm at and be with the organization and the girls that I'm with because they have brought like, life and like my love of basketball back. And so I really am in. In really like, good spirits. I know. Like, I'm just, I'm thankful to be where I'm at and thankful for the year that I got. I am going to be done for the rest of the season, so that kind of sucks. So our next podcast. Our next podcast will be pretty good because I'll just be getting done with surgery, so this should be a good. A good tune in. It's all good.
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I thought that maybe there was, like, a chance that you could come back later, but. No, I'm so sorry.
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No, no, it's all good. It's part of it, right? So it is, but it is what it is. Yeah, I know, I know. So that's that. But you want to know what's actually crazy, though, is Sydney. Yeah. Sydney had her birthday the next day. We played. She completely tore her ACL and everything. It was my birthday. We played the next day, and then I hurt my knee. And we still have a couple more birthdays on our team, and everyone's like, do they play or do they not play?
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Wait. Yeah, I guess also happy belated. I guess you probably moved on from your birthday quick, but damn.
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Yeah, it's all good, though. But when you turn 29, how is your dude 29? I'm getting. I'm getting old.
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Sick.
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That's how I said I'm getting old.
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Well, no, I was riding back from the. From out east and was checking my phone and just saw. I don't even think I saw. I don't think I got an alert. I think the play came up on, like, my Twitter feed.
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Oh, yeah.
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And I was like, oh, fuck, is that Sophie? And, yeah, sure enough, I think I might have messaged your sister. And I was like, do we know what happened?
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Oh, shit, that's a bummer list. Speaking of Lindsay and your mom, she's literally in labor right now, so, like, a podcast, she could have.
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Should we FaceTime in.
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Can you call your mom real quick?
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Dude, there's so much going on. Should we call? No. Is that crazy?
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Call.
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All right, let's do it.
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You try or you try your mom. I. I'll try Lindsay.
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Lindsay's not going to answer you.
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Oh, gosh, this is good.
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Wait, here we go.
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Calling her. Dude, what is giving birth?
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She's too. She's too professional.
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But I feel like Lindsay loves me enough that even if she was pushing, she'd be like, answer.
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Voicemail. I'll leave her voicemail. I'm just gonna say she's on the pod. And when we're hoping for a mom, it's west and Sophie, we're just calling you from the pod to say, you know, godspeed is Lindsay.
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Lindsay's vagina.
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Good luck with Lindsay's. Sophie said vagina. I Would never say that. And we hope everything goes well. Oh, Lindsay's calling. And just have fun. Take a picture and send it to us. Good luck. Bye.
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Send a picture, Lindsay. Turn her camera on. Maybe she didn't.
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My mom probably told her no phones.
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Yeah.
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Push while pushing.
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Wait.
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Okay. That's so fun. Okay.
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Big weekend here, Lindsay. Linds. Yeah. Have you given birth yet? No. Well, you're on the podcast. Wes just tried calling your dog. His mom, she didn't answer. She just left. Wes.
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Oh, well, Lindsay, tell Lindsay I said good luck and give my mom a hug and take a picture and we're excited of her.
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Wes said good luck. Give you. Give his mom a hug and send us a picture. Okay. Well, thank you. Okay, love you. Bye.
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Go. Go get him, Lindsay. Bye.
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She. She sounded drained.
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Yeah, she's busy. Okay. So crazy week for you. I feel like every week we hop on here, there's, like, some crazy shit that went down. Dude, you don't have to comment on this. I. And I. I'll go first.
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Okay.
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I know that there. We're, like, in this heated midst of a discussion throughout the season that, like, WNBA refs, like, need to be better. The things have gotten chippy. People kind of bully the fever. I did watch the play. Twitter says it. A lot of people saying it was dirty. She was, like, smiling after. Whatever. You can say what you want about this. It didn't look dirty to me. Just like a bang, bang play under the. Under the rim.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Do you have no hard feelings?
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No, I don't, because I know Bria, and I'm actually really good friends with Bria, and I have been waiting to get on the pod and so we could talk about this, because I did want to tweet it out, but I don't think that there was no ill intent. I think it was a basketball play. I was just in the wrong spot at the wrong time. She felt like there was no way that she would go in there and potentially try to hurt me. And so I have nothing but love for Bria. And I even, like, told my mom because she tweeted something. I was like, no, mom. Like, I get it. But, like, I promise you that, like, I was like, Bria and I are super cool and, like, she would never try to hurt me because there are some girls that I think might, but she. She wouldn't do that. And so I have nothing but love. And so I hope people stop giving Bria some heat, because I don't. I don't think she meant to do that. At all.
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Yeah, she was also, like. She was like, passing the ball while it happened. Like, it just was very sports. Like, it was bang, bang.
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Yeah. And I think that sm. It wasn't like a. It was like a. Ooh. You know, like one of those. So I'm. I'm totally fine. It's whatever.
C
Yeah. You guys have been so fucking banged up this year, though. It's absolutely crazy. Are we. Do you. Are you gonna have to have surgery or is it just pt?
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No. Yeah, I'll have surgery Friday.
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Okay.
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But again, out of all things, it could have been way worse. So, like, I'm. I'm taking this as a dub.
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Have you ever had surgery? Yeah. You know, I broke my leg my junior year in spring ball. Yeah, it was my roommate. It was like seven on seven shells. Like, it was not. It's a practice where you're supposed to, like, stay off the ground, you know?
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Yeah.
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And I broke on the ball. It got tipped, so it was like, kind of spluttering in front of me. I didn't make a play on it. He slid to catch it underneath me right when I planted my left leg. He slid like baseball slid, like, with his knees tucked. And they went spiral fracture into my fib. And then it went down. And I guess doctors say if you have a spiral fracture that it's so fast or there's so much force that all the muscles detach from your bone. So I had a spiral in my fib, and then every muscle in my ankle just, like, let go of my whole.
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What?
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Dude, it was so gross. But I was gonna tell you. First game back my junior year had an interception, and it was like the most, like, full circle moment of my sports career. Cause, like, rehab fucking sucks. It's so exhausting. You just. Especially when you're an athlete and like, all you. You're. You depend on your body so much, and you can do so many cool things with your body once starting over, not being able to, like, go get yourself a glass of water or, like, drive your car like this. It's fun being hurt for, like, two days. People forget.
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Yeah.
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Stop saying feel better after two or three days. And then you're stuck by yourself. And. Yeah, to do rehab for that long and then to get back in a game and, like, get a pick. I remember, like, just. Absolutely. Yeah. I just screamed as loud as I could and, like, that was a special moment. And my dad was there, which was really cool, but my dad. So that was my surgery junior year.
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Hey, another thing. I don't know why? This reminded me of just like, games. You asking about Bria, but I'm officially three for three on being fined by the wnba.
C
Holy shit. For this, for the pod again.
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They didn't like my comments on Paige Beckers.
C
No way.
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I didn't even say anything bad.
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On. On the. On the. On the whistle. On the quick whistle.
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Yeah, but, like, why, like, if we.
C
Were to talk about Paige. Here's a good question. Well, that rookie of the year debate, I've seen a lot of.
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I know, dude. Well, I. Well, you heard me say. I was like, yeah, she'll probably be rookie of the year, but Sonia is, like, making a very strong case. Like, she is solid. Solid.
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Caitlyn wasn't unanimous, Is that correct?
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No. Yeah, I'm sure she's gonna get it regardless.
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Yeah, but unanimous is, like, a very cool thing on a positive note. Yeah, I know. Knee aside, you guys, I don't know where you're watching, but fever with the largest comeback in franchise history. I guess I don't know how much you want to contribute to being a part of that. Maybe everyone rallied around you, but that's sick, dude.
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I think that is so funny because everyone's like, what a positive thing. And I was like, well, yeah, but we should have never been there in the first place.
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But no, but it's a huge thing. Yeah.
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Hell yeah. No, Kelsey, I don't know if you know Kelsey Mitchell, but if you don't, you need to. And the whole fricking basketball world should know who she is by now. But she had 34 points in the second half in. I'm not kidding. Since she's been in the league, she has been a high level, like, elite scorer, and she just doesn't really get the recognition that she deserves. And I think she's finally starting to put people on notice. But, like, playing against her, she's one of the toughest people to freaking play against. Being on your team, you know, she's a bucket. And so I think she proved herself on Sunday for sure.
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I mean, it also sounds like when someone goes down, you guys absolutely find the right people to step up.
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Yeah, well, we keep signing people, but we're running out of people to sign because, like, our whole roster's injured, so. I know that's always fun, too.
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Have you been. What's the longest injury you've had in your, let's say, like, college plus career?
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Well, all last year I was playing with a dead collarbone. Like, part of my collarbone was dead, so that sucked. I couldn't, like, Brush my teeth or do anything. But I would owe. Get a little help, you know, during the games. Yeah, some medicine.
C
But I mean like, have you, have you been a non playing part of a team in a long time? Like where now your role is to gonna. Is gonna be entirely different.
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Oh, oh, oh no. This is the first time. This is the first time in like probably four years. Yeah. Which will be fine though because I, I wanna, I love our team. So it's gonna be easy to still go and like be a part of it. But it just, I just feel bad. Like it's one thing after another, you know what I mean? Like that shit sucks, dude. Yeah, it really does suck.
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But is Caitlin close? How's she coming along?
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Dude, I don't know. I. Everyone keeps asking. Everyone's like, you know, and I'm, I'm like, literally she doesn't even know like our. It's just like a day by day legit type of thing. And so yeah, she's close. But like you also have to remember like she could be playing if it wasn't in the WNBA by now. But like at this level with how deep and like how good people are nowadays in our league, which is the best it's ever been, like you, you can't just be good, you have to be on top of your game. And so just trying to get her back in game shape I think is what they're trying to do. But like again it's, it's literally a day by day. I'm not holding out any information, I just literally don't know.
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Did you see Skip Bayless said that the WNBA is lying about her injury.
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Dude, that's, that's literally bullshit. Like no one's lying. No one. That's not.
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He said maybe he and Clark has taken a couple of injury breaks just because she needed a mental break from all the jealousy and resentment and bullying and cheap shots.
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Okay, here's the thing. When you're an elite level player, you not being able to play is the hardest part. Mentally, physically, emotionally. You know what I mean? Like it's, it's not playing, it's. When you're playing is like when you're, it's a part of it. Like you're, you're built for that. So when people have say stuff like that, I'm just like, just, just shut up.
C
Shut up.
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Yeah, but dude, tell me about. I know you're not allowed to talk details, but I've been getting so many questions about stuff. Summer house and like how taping's Going, like, how. Like, what do the weekends look like? Who's your favorite? I don't know, like, in the house, who's your least favorite?
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I'm not getting any of it.
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I know, but, like, you could say from last season at least, because people on the street here, they're like, dude, we love West. We want to know more about West. I was like, all right, well, like. And people want to know. Like, wait, time, time, time. People actually want to know. Like, are you really trying to find love or are you just trying to have fun?
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The show's not even about finding love. Like, it's like, just.
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I know, but people are very interested in your. In your relational status.
C
Well, there's so much TV and reality TV that's based off of, like, there is a dating premise, you know?
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Yeah.
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Love is blind love. Like, everyone. Every show is about, like, dating. I will say Summer house doesn't actually. Like. It is not about dating. There's no rule seating. You don't have to date anybody. Like, it is. There's not a single stipulation to summer house. You just show up and, like, obviously, when people live in a house and go out and, like, see each other every weekend, have a drink, like, it does happen, but it is nice to, like, not have to do it. Like, you know how in the Bachelor, it's like, every. It's like the six episodes, the first, there's always the first person to be like, I love him. And it's like, so just, like, you feel like you have to take all these steps. Also, the psychological warfare in filming the Bachelor, I've heard is absolutely just, like, so crazy. But I will say another thing with this show is, like, this is what I would be doing in the summer anyways, you know?
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Yeah. Like, no.
C
Doing a sharehouse, hitting the beach. Maybe I'd be in the Ozarks instead of the Hamptons. But it's fun. You know? I took Kyle to the Ozarks this summer.
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Dude, I saw that on your story or whatever. I think you text me asking if I was going to be down there or something. I was like, no, I'm in season.
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Yeah, we've been down there random times.
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Yeah, I know.
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Yeah, it's. It's. It's the best place ever. He had a blast.
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It is. It is a hidden gem. Like, people shit on that. And I'm like, you don't understand.
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It's just like, so. It's just so Missouri, you know? But that's where everyone. Like, that's where you go, I Love to ask people what their body of water was as a child.
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So, like, Missouri people. It's going to be. Those are, like, in New York, it'll be like Jersey Shore, or it'll be the Hamptons, or it'll be a lake in upstate New York. Like, I'm trying to think Indiana.
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What did Kyle think of it, though?
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Had a blast. He's like, the guy has a motor that I've never seen on any human ever.
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Like, where did you take him, though?
C
Listen to this schedule. We went out in Columbia on a Friday. It was. What's the. Not Labor Day, but the one before Memorial Day.
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Memorial Day, Yes.
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Sunday. Okay, so we go to. We get to Columbia Saturday, I go out. I take him to. We do like, Harpos. And then we did Shakespeare's for a few beverages. And then.
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Yum.
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God, I can't remember where he went to.
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Booches.
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Yeah, we went to Booches before we even dropped our luggage off. Started at Booches, then dropped off luggage. Oh, and I took him to. I took him to Las Margs. Not Lost Marks. Trops. I had him get Trops too. He was like, this is so crazy. And then. Then we went home and then we popped back out and then we. We ended the night at El Rancho. And like, I don't know if you've clocked. If you've watched enough summer house to know there's like. Everyone has, like, patterns. But one of Kyle's is, like, eating drunk food alone. Like, he'll just come in the kitchen.
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No, that's what I was about to say everyone is, like, away. And he's literally in the. In the kitchen by himself, eyes closed, eating.
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So I was like, what better place to take this man than El Rancho in Columbia, Missouri? And we go in. Dude, his face. I have a video of it. He opens the box, and his eyes get big, and he, like, can't think of words to say. And then he just shoveled steak nachos into his mouth for an hour. And I was like, that's perfect. Then we wake up early, drive to the Ozarks, check in at the hotel. He does his DJ set from probably, like. Probably like two to six. And then we get on Shady Gators.
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Oh, next.
C
Then we get on a boat and just rip it. We walk on the boat, and there's just a DJ deck. Like, it was like, this was all made for him. And then. And then we just whip it around the Ozarks. Okay. This. Then it gets crazier. Then we're out till, like, 6am Wake up in the hotel, put him in the car, and I'm like, dude, this is, like, the only shot you'll get to, like, see the farm. Like, do you want to go? And he was like. He was like, let's do it. We slept for 20 minutes. And then we get to the farm, and he fed cows, fed chickens, and rode with my dad for, like, four hours. And I was just like, dude, this guy's. This guy's got a motor.
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Was Amanda nervous for you to, like, be with him all weekend and just you two?
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No, I think I. I would like to think Amanda. Trust me. But of course, my dad was like, kyle, where's Amanda? And I was like, one day, it was.
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How would she have handled it? Would she be about it?
C
Amanda is pretty quick to, like, she. So anytime we do any type of physical activity, she's hurt every single time. Whether it's like dodgeball, kickball, football. I'm not kidding you.
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She does have big boobs. Maybe it's her back.
C
Maybe I just mean she, like, just gets head shots no matter what the sport is hurt.
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My knee.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Get my joke.
C
I can't see you today. That's probably why I didn't get it. Oh.
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Oh, well, I. I remember. Yeah. Yeah, my bad. Yeah, my bad.
C
Anyway, but she. If we play a sport, it's like, football to the. Football to the head, kickball to, like, the gut. Like, every time it happens, it's. And it. I. No offense, Amanda, but it's so fucking funny. Some people aren't sports girls. She's a creative.
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Yeah.
C
Swimsuit girl. You know, dude, I.
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That's where I need to get my swimsuit from is Amanda. I've been looking for a point of view brand.
C
The whole bit is like big boobs, though, I think.
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Okay, well, I'm just gonna. I'll just.
C
I would never make that joke. But you've made it to me first.
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No, a thousand percent. Thousand percent. Well, good for her. Okay, well, hey, that would be a Get fined.
C
Yeah. Yeah, we could do that a little finer. Get fined. I can't believe we're playing this game and it's. You keep getting fined.
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We've, like, made it through, baby.
C
Dude, that's so crazy.
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I just can't wait till off season so that I can rip them and then they can't find me.
C
So you can't be fined in the. In the winter, are they.
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I'm not getting a paycheck in the winter.
C
But you're still. Aren't you still an employee, technically of the league?
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It's funny because we're in a new cba, so we all. No one's going to be under contract, so I'll either. I'll either get kicked out of the league or.
C
No.
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Just get targeted next year.
C
They know better than that.
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You never know. Never know.
C
Damn.
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All right.
C
You got fined. So we'll start it off with find and I'll finally speak up and say wnba. Dude, take a second. Take a break. You can't find me. My girl Sophie's just trying to like, spread some ball knowledge elite ball knower.
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The whole nation is thinking it. But thanks, Kathy, for the view of the podcast.
C
Man, I can't believe that shout out to you non basketball related fake Justin Bieber look like at a Vegas nightclub. Did you see it? Yes or no?
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Dude, I think that's hilarious. I think that. Oh, my God. And how are they. How. How do they not know that's not him?
C
That's what I was going to say. I was going to say you find the audience for being idiots more than fine. That they look alike and the venue were like, yeah, just give it a shot, dude.
A
But it says that the. The nightclub got tricked too. Do you or do you think that they were in on it?
C
Are they the biggest idiots ever? Oh, it's a complex story. Nice. There you go. I'm playing in a flag football game tomorrow for complex, so hopefully wish me good luck on my dude.
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Good luck. I will pray for your knees.
C
This guy does look like Biebs. He's just like a little Thicker.
A
I was just about to say. I think he's a little thicker, though. And I think if you're just a beer fan, you notice that. But I think good for him. I say no. Fine. Good for him, man.
C
Are you a JB guy?
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I am. I like him.
C
Oh, me too. This new album rocks my world, dude.
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We. If he comes out with the concert, we need to go.
C
I would go in Minneapolis. Could you get. Could you get us front row in Indy?
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Yeah, sure.
C
I feel like you could come to Indy.
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Probably not.
C
One of my goals. Hopefully next year. Do you think that, like, could I sit court side at a Fever game?
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Miked up. Thousand percent. Thousand percent.
C
Bleacher Report makes those, and they're actually super sick. They'll mic up, like, Eagles players at, like, a Phillies game or, like. Oh, and they. It's like. It's a very good piece of content.
A
Dude, we should do that for a cheese game.
C
I would.
A
Okay.
C
I wouldn't make that happen.
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I love that.
C
You, me, and Taylor.
A
All right. Yeah. Yeah.
C
Can you go to the restaurant opening now?
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No, I still have to do rehab.
C
Yeah, you're right.
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And, like, surgery and stuff. So, like, I'm gonna be here for a second. Did you see the Barbie? Venus Williams?
C
She has a Barbie celebrates Venus Williams.
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Yeah.
C
That's sick.
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It's for equal pay. Inspiring.
C
I think we'll both say fine on that, but, yeah, I think that's good.
A
I think that's good.
C
I like that Barbie's doing sport. I feel like they've been kind of like. It's like you're a Barbie girl or, like. Or a tomboy kind of vibe when you're growing up. I bet that's cool to see both. I admire both.
A
Yeah. Part of me kind of feels like the Venus Williams should have had a Barbie a long time ago. Yeah. But I'm glad that she has it now. Good for her.
C
That's fine. Yeah. Both say. Both say fine there. What else do we have? Kind of a quiet week you just had. Did you do anything for your birthday?
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Yeah, I flew to Connecticut.
C
Sick find and got find.
A
Yeah, I would. I just never. I kind of dread my birthday nowadays because I'm always traveling somewhere to where I don't want to be traveling to. You know, like, it's like Detroit or Cleveland. Oh, no, that will probably be on next year's trip and the year after. Hopefully, they'll celebrate me.
C
Yeah. I'll go as a fake fan and say, we still love you.
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Thanks. Thanks. Another fine or get fine, which I Think is freaking hilarious. Are adults are going to sleep away camps to make friends.
C
Sick. So tight.
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What's tight?
C
Like, playing games and being outside.
A
Dude, why are older people are going to camps to make friends? That just sounds like a freaking.
C
Did you.
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What do you think that sound like?
C
Did you go any to any, like, freaky, like, religious camps as a kid?
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No.
C
Like, okay, well, I did. Do you know what the blob is?
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No.
C
There is like, oh, so much money. It was like, it's like Southern Missouri.
A
Oh, no, I didn't go like K Life.
C
I heard a K Life camp that was like the big one that like I went to. And it's like a horrible place. But they have a lot of money and they have a lot of money and anytime you have jet skis, a blob, tug of war, flag football, like, it's fun and that's still fun. Or kickball. As the world's biggest kickball advocate, I would go to a camp and play that for a weekend.
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No. Okay, Okay. I think here's my thing is when I first read that I thought of like swingers. Like, my mind went to like, this is a camp for like, adults to make friends. What? But like, if you're, if you're thinking about, like, actually you're going to a camp, like, to go do those things. Absolutely. Like, I think no one really loses the kid in them. But when I read this, I was thinking like some weird shit going down.
C
Admire where your head's at. Because I didn't think about that at first, but now I'm kind of like, you would get kickball and maybe sneak into the other camps, TP or whatever. Whatever.
A
This new set of balls.
C
Sexual aspect.
A
Well, living out in Phoenix and Scottsdale, pretty sure I need to rewire my brain to that Midwestern, good, traditional family type deal.
C
That is the most Arizona sounding ever.
A
Dude, you're telling me to play golf and.
C
And see what happens.
A
Yeah.
C
Do you know what the sign for being a swinger is?
A
An upside down pineapple.
C
Yeah, you are.
A
And do you want to know that? My mom and dad did not know that. And they got pineapples for their outdoor patios. And I'm like, do you guys have something to tell us at their new house?
C
They got it for them.
A
Yeah, they. They moved. They moved in and like, it's kind of like a. It's like a fun little backyard now. And they put pineapples as like their lights. And I was like, what's going on?
C
Hey now. Hey now. Did you tell Your mom?
A
Yeah. And she goes, oh, God. And I was like, yeah, switch those out asap.
C
So what do we say? I. I'm gonna go with fine because I think it sounds fun. And if you do swing and you have consent, also fine. Defining you. Yeah.
A
Okay. You know, I like where your head's at. I'll go. I was honestly, I was gonna say get fined, but I like where your head's at. I'll say it's fine.
C
Good. Last thing. Did you see that? I don't know how much you've been on, like, on the Internet the last few days, but 2K is allowing WNBA players and NBA players at the same time. Yeah. So it's like.
A
It's like, well, have you seen the tweet of, like, Caitlyn dunking over LeBron?
C
That's what I was gonna say. It's awesome.
A
It is awesome. But, like, you just know we're gonna get shit on. Like, you know. You know we're about to just get shit on. Like, it's cool. It's a cool concept and, like, I like it, but I just know that it's going to set us back another 20 years. But I get the equal part. But, you know.
C
Yeah. But I will say, even though, like, I get what 2K is doing, that's fun.
A
Yeah. No, and I'm actually cool with Ronnie. Ronnie 2K. And I think he, like, where he has taken this brand is going to be fucking amazing. And he's all about us women and, like, supporting us, and so I like where his mind's at, but, like, I. I just don't want to get dunked on F. I just know that's going to happen.
C
Take a charge. Take a charge and then you don't.
A
Have to get posterized with a broken knee. Yeah, sounds great.
C
If, hypothetically speaking, you. Let's say 10 seconds on the clock, you have to give the ball to Cece, Sabrina, or Paige B. Who are you using and why?
A
I. I think it's easy because she's my teammate, but I know I'm gonna get eaten alive regardless of the answer I choose. There's no right answer here, so I want everyone to know that, but I'm going with Cece because she. No one shoots like she shoots. I mean, that's just. That's obvious.
C
Yeah.
A
Who are you going with?
C
If we're down one and I gotta get like a mid range. Don't you go, Paige, and let us go? Yeah, mid range.
A
Yeah, but. But you don't. But you. You don't get to pick. You're down one. You have 10 seconds. You know, it's just whatever shot is given to you.
C
I'll go Paige then, just to keep things different. And Montana State plays Oregon next week, so that's why I'm skipping Sabrina. How's that sound?
A
Like that.
C
I will say, if you don't have to talk about Sabrina's game too much, but I feel like she. She gives me, like, field general, like, hype man. Like, so laser focused. Like, if you slacked for a single play on the floor, she'd come for your throat. Is that a fair take?
A
I think she is very dialed in. I've never. Honestly, I've never really been in a workout or never been her teammate, so I've only played against her, so I don't really know. But when you're playing against her, that's the type of, like, feel I get from her.
C
She seem just, like, on fire always.
A
Yeah, but she's not, like, super nice girl. Super nice. Her husband's really nice, too. Good people.
C
Is he an Oregon guy?
A
I don't know. I think he played football. And he still might be in the NFL, but I feel like they were together. Oregon, right?
C
I don't know. I really wanted to go to this Montana State, Oregon game, but I'm going to be in. I'm going to be in the Hamptons. I'm really sad.
A
For filming or just for shits and gigs?
C
Yeah. Doing a little show. Oh, he is a football guy.
A
Nice. Is he still in the NFL.
C
2015 draft? I doubt it. No, he bounced around a little bit. Bears, Ravens, Dolphins, Titans, Ravens, 49ers, Raiders.
A
Wait, I know this is a squirrel brain comment, but. Yeah, you know, like, on the show, when you guys go to, like, people's like, pop up. Like, you went for a DJ thing. We went for Amanda's, like, sweet Swim. Like, is that. Does the shows make you do that or do they do that regardless? Like, you guys were gonna go regardless, or do you guys make it because.
C
You had to have permission to film anything anywhere. Yeah, so, like, you can't just, like, freestyle pull up to, like, a random event or, like, club so, like, everything.
A
You know they're gonna be filming.
C
Yeah. Well, also, the venue has to know you're gonna be filming too. So, like, you couldn't just show up with, like, camera people and be like, yo, we're filming your restaurant. Like, because also you have to think about, like, they can't have. They can't even have background music that's, like, licensed Songs.
A
Yeah.
C
So like the restaurant has to agree to like let the lighting in like clear space around like the table we're at to play.
A
Yeah.
C
The like cleared music. Like there's so many things that like I, that I probably don't even know that go into it.
A
Yeah.
C
So like everything is like super thought out.
A
So like.
C
And also some people just.
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C
You go.
A
Don't wanna be on camera, honestly. But, but I was saying like when you sign that contract, like for us we have like player appearances. You have to make so many player appearances and do certain things out the public. Is that like how it is as a show is like, hey, like, yeah, it's during the summer, but you're also going to have to go to X, Y, Z and it's. You know what I mean?
C
Like, yeah, I don't know honestly how that works. I think some of it might just be in like good practice, you know what I mean? Like, because we've definitely, we had the liberty to turn things down.
A
Yeah.
C
But I think we also all want like that show to like do well. So like it's kind of like for sure it just like a, like a full circle.
A
Like you want to do it, you.
C
Want the show to do well. It does well for you. Like it's, it's good for everybody.
A
Well, and they're your friends too. Like you do you still want to support and like hang. So it all. I just didn't know if it was like a required thing of like, hey, we're going to make up this event for you guys to go to. And whatever, you know what I mean?
C
Yeah, but I mean, usually, like, they want it to be our lot. Like, things are better when they have our arms wrapped around them, you know?
A
Yeah.
C
So like, like, we played a kickball game last year that I fully was like, let me find contacts for the league that I play kickball in. We'll do it here. I'll get the shirts, like, because that shit is fun for me. Yeah, and we won.
A
That's. Anyway, that diving catch, I will never forget that.
C
When your season's over and my fall kickball season starts, we'll be hopping on here and you're going to have to like, starve to combo if like, what was the score? How'd you play?
A
I'm like, listen, I can't wait. I can't wait. This is going to be so exciting for me.
C
You know I tore my rotator cuff this spring playing kickball. Yeah. Throwing someone out from like the outfield.
A
No way. You're talking about Amanda always getting injured and here you are.
C
Yeah, but mine's because I. I trial too hard though. But we won the championship.
A
You know what?
C
Fuck it. One sec. Ready for this?
A
Oh, God.
C
This is the only decor I have in my apartment right now. Is that spring 2025? Yeah. So they give it to you after you win and then you take it to the bars and like, we just dumped like champagne, beer in it all night.
A
Dude, fun fact. Not a big champagne girl.
C
I get it. It's fun to pop, I guess.
A
Yeah, you're right.
C
But that's it. Honestly, if you're healthy, God, you probably can't play kickball now.
A
I know you can't be, but this is what I'm looking like right now.
C
What's your hardware?
A
It's a nice, it's a nice ACL kind of looking brace. Even though it's my mcl.
C
Are you weight bearing?
A
Yeah, I get right now, but I will be regardless. Like, I can walk. I actually, you know what? I tried to kind of right when it happened, I went into the locker room and like, the docs were checking it out and then like, the team came in for halftime, they went out and then I went back to shower just to like, so I could be clean and then do rehab or treatment. And I was like, you know what? Maybe I'm not that hurt. And I tried kind of running a little bit. And I almost ate shit in the shower by myself because my knee was just like bleak.
C
So, uh, it is so funny with knees how like so many people tear ACLs MCLs, PCL. I did PCL at Rockbridge. But you can, like, you can weight bear, walk off the field, and then your rehab time is like. An ACL is a full year where, like, I broke the shit out of my leg. Couldn't walk for four months, but I was back full, like, after six because they just put metal in you and you're good. Like, knees are just so, so fragile.
A
Well, honestly, I was kind of thinking about, like, how am I. I was thinking about, like, the beach and yachts and boats and me having a great off season now, this thing. But actually it's only gonna take four months, so, like, this is a quick, quick little recovery. And then I'll be on a boat asap.
C
Do they just scope it out or are you getting like.
A
No, they have to repair it.
C
Ah, yeah, but it.
A
But it's very, like, very. It's very simple and not very invasive. Like, it's. It's. It's good. You just have to get it fixed.
C
So then not to, like, rehash, like, a horrible day for you, but were you. Was your leg locked when she fell in?
A
Yeah, so what happened was like. Yeah, so they. They said that they see these in, like, football, NFL lot because your feet are kind of locked to the ground and people come in from the side. And so normally, like, my. If, like, my foot would have been up a little bit, maybe my leg would have, like, gave in a little bit, but my foot was locked on the ground. And when she fell, like, it was just. It was like a textbook MCL tear pretty much. And so. But they're like, if you would have gone a couple more inches to the left, you would have torn a whole bunch more shit. So, like, I'm very thankful for. For where I'm at, so it's all good.
C
I love your outlook today. You're very positive.
A
You know what I choose to be. Yeah.
C
Yeah. Damn. What's your team doctor's name? Should we give them a shout out? Do we love them?
A
You know, Dr. Kendall. Let's give him a quick little shout out and love that he is well rested. But, dude, he's been doing so. He's done already. Two surgeries of our team.
C
Yeah, that guy's.
A
I'm our third.
C
Oh, Dr. Kendall. Busy guy this year.
A
Y.
C
Trying to think.
A
Oh, Lindsay's at 9 centimeters. Pip is coming soon.
C
Who's texting you?
A
Lindsay.
C
Oh, wow. You see on her phone.
A
I know she is not messing around.
C
Do they. Can you play music in the. In the. Yeah, in the operating Room.
A
Yeah. Wait, you never told me, though. Are you everyone? I've gotten, like, no joke, probably around 45 to 48 dms asking if you're actually trying to find love.
C
I mean, like.
A
Or if you're just, like, in a. In a fun state. I don't know.
C
I don't, like, wake up craving that. Do you know what I mean?
A
Like, yeah, you're in a fun part of your life. Like, you don't need to be.
C
How often do people say, like, oh, you'll know. Like. Like when it happens, like, you'll know. Like, I. I've. I've heard that so many times, and I guess I am, like, just day at a time. I don't know. I just think. I don't. I don't go outside looking for that, you know? Do I sound crazy?
A
I love you. No, I just love you. You're just funny as shit to me because you're like. Well, everyone's. No, but everyone says that. And everyone's like. And the way that you're just like. Like that. I feel like, same boat.
C
But I do picture, like, on a serious note, if I think about my life from, like, a macro lens. Yeah. Like, being a dad, like, kids coaching football. Like, that shit sounds awesome. I just. It's not for me tomorrow, you know?
A
No, I feel that, dude. I feel that. I couldn't even imagine.
C
Unlike Indianapolis also. Everyone in New York City is, like, single, running around, you know?
A
You know what? What a fun, fun place to be. Yeah. Literally. Maybe I need to come up there during off season for a little bit.
C
Pull up. Yeah, it'd be fun, but, like, I've been to. And, like, probably same for you.
A
Well.
C
Phoenix, I don't know. But, like, I've been to so many weddings over the last five years. Hundreds. One of them was, like, a New York City couple. Like, they're all Missouri and Montana.
A
We went to high school with one of them, Right?
C
Well, yeah. Yeah. Are you talking about the one the other weekend? Yeah.
A
No, no, the New York one.
C
Oh, Hannah. Yeah. That wedding was actually. That might have been the perfect wedding.
A
Really? I'm not surprised. I feel like they're, like, the perfect people.
C
It was reception in, like, this beautiful church in, like, the Upper east side, and then they. Or excuse me, ceremony at the beautiful church, and then they did reception in Central Park. So, like, outside by the water, like, trees, very green, but everyone still keeps their suits on. Nice music. And then they did after party at a basement in, like, a midtown, like, dive bar where everyone was like, Sweaty had their bow ties off. Like, everyone's wearing sunglasses like in the pictures and stuff. It was shout out to Hannah playing again for that. Another rock rotation ruin. Just crushing.
A
I will say though, Sam's the. What was it called? Like, swimming. Like, you guys were all swimming and drinking Aperol spritzes or something?
C
Yeah, that was the day they called it something.
A
Oh, day after, dude. That Sunday in Spritz or something. I can't remember what it was called, but that looks so fun.
C
Yeah, like a swim and spritz or something. It was beautiful.
A
Yeah. Swim and spritz. I'm down for a swim.
C
Stuck.
A
I know.
C
You really are. What's your dream? Basketball aside. You. If you could live in one city in the United States, where would you want to be?
A
Dude, that's so hard because I'm so much.
C
Say Miami.
A
No, see, that's my thing is I think Miami is not really my spirit speed. I think I would do definitely probably somewhere in Florida, but like, just like the beach. But I'm more. What I was gonna say is I'm more of like a people person. Like, I want like my family and my friends and like good people around. You know what I mean? But I also want to be on a beach with a margarita.
C
Okay. Okay.
A
What would you like?
C
Hot.
A
I feel like you're. Yes, definitely hot weather. That's why, like, California, like, their beaches are too cold for me. Like, it's. I can't do it. I have to be. Yeah. East Coast.
C
I. I think for right now in my life, New York City is like, kind of perfect. But, like, you're thriving. I do miss. I miss Montana a lot, though. That place is.
A
Yeah.
C
In the summer.
A
Oh, dude, it looks sick. Honestly, I just remember you guys jumping off bridges and stuff.
C
Yeah. So we'd have workouts in the morning. Yeah, no water. We'd have workouts in the morning and they were over, but like, we were done at 7:30. So then you go home, breakfast, nap, and then we would just all load up in someone's car and like, go to a lake and like. Yeah. Like rope swing for five hours and go home.
A
Dude, do you know? I. I so, so miss. Oh, God, where am I? Oh, float trips did.
C
The best. I actually tried explaining float trips to my friends in New York and they like, couldn't grasp what it was.
A
What.
C
And I was like, dude, you just tie up a bunch of shit that floats and you float down a river for seven hours and you get hammered.
A
You eat sandwiches, you have chips and it's like the white trashiest shit you will ever do. And it's so fun.
C
Yeah. We'd go to school and we'd all get footlongs and then keep the condiments on the side and then put them in a cooler. And then we'd have a picture because.
A
You can't let it get soggy. Uh.
C
Dude, I would do anything for one of those again.
A
I know.
C
Ugh.
A
Joe and Ryan just went on one and they were telling me about it and I was like, ugh.
C
Where'd they go?
A
Sucks. Um, somewhere in Springfield, I think. They're always doing something, but I love it.
C
Did Ryan. Ryan went to Most state, Is that correct?
A
Yep.
C
So he, like. Is it. He, like, knows Springfield super well.
A
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Great floats down there.
C
Yeah. Sophie, before we leave.
A
Yeah.
C
You're already in good spirits, but I do like, I know that me saying happy birthday to you should be enough.
A
It is enough, but it's.
C
It's not going to be today. So I'm sending you a little something on my phone.
A
Oh, guys, what are we doing? Oh, is that my dog?
C
Pop it open.
A
Oh, gosh. Stop it. This is so fun.
C
Yeah.
A
Wait, I gotta. Hold on. I'm gonna. From Brutus and me. Remember your dog? The one your dad and I have had for three years. He's the best. I can't believe my baby is 29 years old. I'm getting old, Mom. Keep smiling. Keep shining your light. I think they're doing yard work or something. I think you've done a pretty good job.
C
I love you so much.
A
I wish I could squeeze you. Have a great day. Mama P about to cry.
C
Happy birthday, baby girl. I can't believe you're turning 29. Very proud of you.
A
Wait, guys, did you know this is happening?
C
Keep doing what you're doing. Have fun. Bye bye.
A
No, you say.
C
Happy birthday.
A
And Sophie, we love you so much.
C
And we're so proud of you.
A
Can you both kiss?
C
What's going on?
A
Sophie, happy birthday.
C
Really proud of everything you're doing. And, you know, I hope something green.
A
Doesn'T come fly out of the Internet kitchen. Happy birthday, Sophie.
C
It's the shits around you, mama.
A
You guys are cute. Thank you.
C
Not over. Incoming.
A
What is going on? What? Wait. You guys are so nice. I needed this. Wait. This is my team. We love you.
C
We wish you plenty more in birthday than that.
A
God bless you with plenty. Kiss me.
C
Oh, you junior. 29 married days, you know.
A
So they asked for a video to celebrate you this morning. You know, myself girls, doesn't do this. I have enjoyed this entire space with you unbelievable teammates. So self splancing that will let it.
C
Go over chilly time. But more important than just you a.
A
Solid foundation person and I can appreciate your personality throughout the course of my locker room on a team. Her angle is killing me.
C
At the end of the day I'm.
A
Rocking with the kids so more life. Happy birthday. So I already said this in person so it feels like over. They said it again but I was paid to do the video so hope.
C
You enjoy your day. What the.
A
You guys, this is so nice. Thank you.
C
That's a good way to end today.
A
Yes. What's your birthday?
C
December 30th. The very end.
A
Dude, I think that we should have a banger for your birthday.
C
I wanted to do it for turning 30 and I was just so tired last year I gave up. Maybe 31 is the year but a lot happened this week and despite unfortunate news, Sophie, you had a good birthday. And as we speak and sign off, both of our families are welcoming a baby into this world right now.
A
I love this. I love this. That's good, Wes. I know.
C
I'm trying to get a picture, but yeah, we will. They're the important ones today, so facts.
A
Much love to you, Wes. It's our. Our world's colliding yet again.
C
Speedy recovery, dog. I mean, I'll see you or obviously good luck in surgery and stuff like that. But if energy sucks but chin stays.
A
Up, that's what we should do. Fill the film a little episode right after surgery.
C
Send me some perks and we'll do it together.
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Episode: Sophie Cunningham Talks Torn MCL, Caitlin Clark’s Recovery & Summer House Stories with West Wilson
Date: August 20, 2025
Hosts: Sophie Cunningham (WNBA & Indiana Fever), West Wilson (Bravo’s Summer House)
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
In this episode, best friends Sophie Cunningham and West Wilson catch up on a whirlwind week of personal drama and professional ups and downs. Sophie reveals the details of her recent MCL injury that ends her WNBA season, discusses the injury-riddled year for the Fever, and shares inside perspectives on both basketball camaraderie and the league’s culture. West gives updates from the world of reality TV, including behind-the-scenes quirks of filming Summer House. Their banter weaves through honest takes on injury, recovery, league dynamics, media narratives, and the search for friendship and fun in adulthood, all wrapped in their playful, hilarious, and candid rapport.
Conversational, hilarious, and forthright, Sophie and West freely mix raw honesty about the struggles of pro sports and fame with friendly roasting, nostalgia, and sly inside jokes. The episode covers serious topics—injuries, media gossip, advocacy—alongside light-hearted, relatable tangents, all delivered with their distinct “Show Me State” warmth and wit.