Show Me Something

Episode: Sophie Cunningham & Wes Wilson on Dating Rules, Emotional Cheating & Fever Offseason Plans
Date: October 17, 2025 | iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

Overview

This episode of "Show Me Something" features WNBA and Indiana Fever star Sophie Cunningham and her charismatic longtime best friend, reality TV personality Wes Wilson, diving into a lively, candid mailbag edition. The pair field listener questions about everything from dating age rules and emotional cheating, to Fever offseason plans, self-talk in tough times, collecting keepsakes, hypothetical inventions to erase, youth sports advice, locker room drama, and more. With their signature mix of humor, heartfelt honesty, and Midwestern friendliness, Sophie and Wes offer insight into their personal lives, sports experiences, and values, making this episode both entertaining and revealing.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fever Offseason Plans & Sophie's Recovery

(03:10 – 05:54)

• Caller Melanie (Nashville) asks Sophie about her offseason routine and mentions a shared St. Louis connection with Bravo’s Andy Cohen.
• Sophie shares she’s currently focused on injury rehab—“The injury is going good. I’m getting stronger, slowly but surely. I’m a weak piece of shit right now, let me tell you. Getting my ass kicked, but it’s fine.” (04:05)
• Usually, Sophie blends training with broadcasting, but this offseason she’s “just gonna train”—a chance to really focus, regain her strength, and, she jokes, “work on my tan a little bit too.”
• Wes compliments Sophie’s efforts to build a life beyond basketball: “You do a good job of not, like, only being a basketball player. Like, you do so many other things.” (04:45)
• Sophie values having a life in and outside the gym, advocating for “balance” over obsession.

2. Dating, Emotional Cheating & Relationship Rules

(05:56 – 08:12; 12:40 – 16:14)

Handling Emotional Cheating

• Caller Zach (Upstate NY) seeks advice on dealing with emotional cheating.
• Sophie is unequivocal: “I am not a fan of any type of cheating. If I were to catch that, I would say something to my person and if it, like, continued, then I’d be done.” (06:22)
• Wes sees emotional cheating as “a little grayer” than physical cheating: “I don’t like the word cheating. It sounds like such a backstab, when I don’t think people always do that on purpose.” (07:05)
• Both agree communication is crucial; if someone continues problematic behavior after discussion, walking away is justified.

Dating Age Ranges & Poetry

• Caller asks about acceptable dating age ranges and whether they write poetry.
• Wes shares he keeps his age gap to a “pretty tight” five years younger, reasoning: “My brother is five years younger than me and... no one younger than my brother would I ever date.” (13:02)
• He jokes older is open-ended: “Older, there’s no ceiling. Give me 85.” (14:26)
• Sophie says she’s only dated older, and notes, “I do not write poetry or anything like that, but I do journal...so many fun things happen and I forget.” (15:36)
• Wes’s “poetry” is more freestyling, preferably after two beers.

Memorable Exchange:

• Sophie, on dating someone much older: “No, ew. Ew. No.” (14:30)
• Wes: “She’s probably experienced.” (14:33)

3. Coping With Setbacks & Self-Talk After Failure

(08:18 – 11:16)

• Caller Dana (California) seeks advice on recovering after major setbacks.
• Wes’s personal mantra: “Am I going to die? No. Do I have family and friends who love me? Yes. As long as you have that base level... you can get through everything.” (08:47)
• Sophie reminds listeners that “everyone goes through struggles,” social media perfection is an illusion, and “That’s where you grow. There’s so many benefits and beauty when there’s trials.” (09:57)
• Wes likens resilience to developing calluses: “Every time some shit’s really tough, it breaks you down and then you’re like a callus. You grow tougher and stronger, and you’ll just callous your way through life.” (10:52)

4. Life After the League: Sophie’s Future Plans

(11:36 – 12:32)

• Caller Gerald wonders if Sophie plans to coach after her playing career.
• Sophie is open-ended, expressing interest in coaching, broadcasting, entertainment—or “being on a yacht, not doing anything.” (11:50)
• She’s focused on “being where my two feet are at right now.”

5. Collecting Keepsakes & WNBA Jersey Swaps

(16:16 – 23:38, 22:25 – 23:38)

• Josh asks if they collect cards or jerseys.
• Sophie: “I don’t like having a lot of stuff...my biggest collection would be my swimsuits.” (16:42)
• Wes enjoys collecting jerseys, hats, shirts from diners/bars: “I have like 14 [Shakespeare’s Pizza cups].” (22:32)
• Wes even has a custom “Big Westie” Topps card from his time covering the McDonald’s All-American Game.
• On WNBA jersey swaps: Sophie reveals, “We legit get like two or three jerseys...If you mess it up, you are screwed. So no.” (23:17)

6. Martial Arts & Childhood Training

(23:44 – 26:13)

• They reminisce about childhood martial arts, confirming neither currently trains.
• Sophie: “I stopped at age 6. I got my black belt and I was done.” (24:40)
• She shares how her team tried Krav Maga for self-defense in college: “It is hard, but super cool.” (25:41)
• Wes and Sophie joke about their signature martial arts moves: “Tiger!” “Bear!” “Eagle!” (24:08–24:29)

7. Inventions They’d Erase From History

(26:43 – 30:34)

• Wes’s pick: The cell phone—“I think we had a golden age...now they’re not good for us. If that invention never happened, seeing what society would look like today would be incredibly interesting.” (27:05)
• Sophie agrees, musing about increased authentic connection without phones, and cherishes handwritten notes and letters.
• Sophie would eliminate Botox/plastic surgery: “It would allow people to authentically be themselves and love themselves...Why is our culture chasing something that’s not even real?” (28:37)
• Wes also nominates dishwashers, but admits their usefulness for larger families after Sophie’s pushback.

8. Youth Sports Advice & Avoiding Burnout

(30:52 – 36:04)

• Maddie, a basketball player from NJ, seeks tips on evolving her game.
• Wes advocates multi-sport participation: “Don’t just stick to basketball. Soccer helps with footwork, softball with hand-eye coordination...lock in and commit in high school, but don’t specialize early.” (31:36)
• Sophie stresses hard work and mastering basics: “Even in the WNBA, we still do layup lines, figure-8 ball handling, defensive slides...do the most basic things really, really well.” (32:46)
• Wes’s college coach’s mantra: “There’s only two things you can control: your attitude and your effort.” (34:05)
• Both reflect on how playing many sports growing up helped their skills and avoided burnout.

9. Locker Room Drama & On-Court Conflicts

(36:06 – 38:37)

• Josh (Iowa grad) asks about post-game fights in the WNBA.
• Sophie dispels the myth: “That never happens. It barely even happens on the court.” (36:32)
• She praises the Fever’s communication, and says locker room maturity comes from listening to the message, not the tone.
• Wes shares a football memory—his coach made any two teammates who fought walk around holding hands: “Best post-fight punishment you could ever have.” (37:25)
• Both agree the locker room is a “sacred place”—fighting isn’t normal and would be a serious issue.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Sophie on recovery: “I’m a weak piece of shit right now, let me tell you. Getting my ass kicked, but it’s fine.” (04:05)
• Wes on emotional cheating: “I don’t like the word cheating. It sounds like such a backstab, when I don’t think people always do that on purpose.” (07:05)
• Sophie on setbacks: “Everyone goes through struggles...That’s where you grow. There’s so many benefits and beauty when there’s trials.” (09:57)
• Wes on resilience: “You grow tougher and stronger, and you’ll just callous your way through life.” (10:52)
• Wes on age gaps in dating: “My brother is five years younger than me...no one younger than my brother would I ever date.” (13:02)
• Sophie on collection: “My biggest collection would be my swimsuits.” (16:42)
• Wes (joking): “Older, there’s no ceiling. Give me 85.” (14:26)
• Wes on multi-sport youth: “If you do one sport from an early age, you can burn out on that sport like so fast.” (34:05)
• Sophie on jersey swaps in WNBA: “We legit get like two or three jerseys...If you mess it up, you are screwed. So no.” (23:17)
• Wes’s post-fight anecdote: “If two players got in a fight, they’d have to hold hands and walk around the football field once.” (37:25)

Episode Flow: Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:10] Sophie on Offseason Routine & Injury
• [05:56] Emotional Cheating — Discussion
• [08:18] Catchphrases & Self-Talk for Setbacks
• [11:36] Sophie on Post-WNBA Plans
• [12:40] Dating Age Gaps & Poetry
• [16:16] Collecting Jerseys & Memorabilia
• [23:44] Martial Arts Memories
• [26:43] Inventions to Erase
• [30:52] Evolving as an Athlete, Burnout
• [36:06] WNBA Locker Room Fights — No, Really
• [38:53] Outro banter and encouragement to leave more questions

Overall Tone & Vibe

• Playful, honest, and unfiltered—Sophie’s athletic grit and Wes’s reality-TV wit shine throughout.
• The mailbag format brings out candid, sometimes vulnerable, and always humorous responses.
• They offer relatable advice, occasionally poke fun at each other, and let slip bits of real-life locker room and behind-the-scenes reality.

Summary
Whether you’re a fan of the WNBA, reality TV, or just enjoy authentic conversations about sports, love, adversity, and life’s oddities, this episode brims with wisdom and laughs. Sophie and Wes’s chemistry makes even familiar topics like cheating, collecting, and teamwork feel fresh and personal, while the listener questions draw out stories and insights you won’t hear anywhere else.