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Sophie Cunningham's EXPECTATIONS for Indiana Fever's WNBA season with Caitlin Clark
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Kelsey Mitchell
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Sophie Cunningham
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Same. And I've got the outdoor cam plus setup, especially at night. That wide view and that retinal 2K video is super clear, so I can see what's happening around my place without guessing.
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Sophie Cunningham
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Sophie Cunningham
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Sophie Cunningham
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Sophie Cunningham
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Kelsey Mitchell
A team goal that I can share is I know that we want to be the best defensive team.
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Sophie Cunningham
Let's go.
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Kelsey Mitchell
And I think that is a very doable goal because it's everything you can control. It's all about communication. It's about knowing your teammates, what they're good at, what they're bad at. And like, they're like, if I could be, then I know my hillside's going to be there. So it's all about building trust. And I think at the beginning of the year, like you're trying to do that now because you have a lot of teammates. People play defense differently. But you have to know our scheme. So it's just having each other's back. So I think we could be. We're fast, versatile, I think. And so I think that we're going to have a pretty good defensive team. I couldn't find my dry shampoo. Did you shave or something?
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah, I did shave. It's kind of cold in my apartment. I kind of like it.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Really? Dude, it's been like raining non stop here.
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Sophie Cunningham
It's horrible In Indy. It's. I'd say it's. It's not cloudy today, but there's no sun. It's like when the sky looks white almost. Do you know what I'm saying?
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Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Sophie Cunningham
That's what April showers, spring. No, that's not right. That's not how. That's not how that saying goes.
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
You guys are good. You guys are good to go. Whenever you're ready. Episode 39.
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Sophie Cunningham
You didn't like that intro about weather, Kev? It was on purpose.
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
It was so soft. I wasn't sure.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah, guys, that was a part of this intro. Talking about weather. That's what people do when they catch. When they're catching up. You start talking about weather and then you. And you. Then you talk about other stuff.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Did you really think about it every time you talk to like your mom or dad, like back home? So how's the weather?
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Sophie Cunningham
No, it's actually fascinating. I think weather was invented for people to small talk about in like Ubers or elevators. It's actually crazy how default that is for small talk with strangers.
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Kelsey Mitchell
But I also think. But is that in the city, too. Because I definitely think it's like a Midwest thing of like. Like, my grandparents all the time are like, well, the weather's here. It's raining. Or I'm like, okay, I think.
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Sophie Cunningham
I think. Here's my take on small talk about the weather also, guys. Episode 39. Welcome back, me.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Welcome back. We missed you guys.
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Sophie Cunningham
Weather is something that every single person experiences every day. It's also ever changing, so it's like a very. It's like a variable that will always be different. And every. You know, no matter who you're interacting with, that they are experiencing it as well as you. And it's the. You're experiencing it the same way. So it's like, I can't think of anything else that's that generically different all the time, you know?
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Kelsey Mitchell
Dude, you're so right. And, like, I always find myself that I'm like, what a beautiful day out. Like, wow, we got lucky today. You know what I mean? Like, I. I fall. I'm a victim to that because I do it all the time.
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
I will.
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Sophie Cunningham
I get in every Uber and I'm like, it's hot as out. Yeah.
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
With the random parents talk. Like, you know when you have a kid now and you are all these events and you have to, like, small talk with all the parents.
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Sophie Cunningham
Oh, yeah.
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
What? Weather is definitely a top of the. The power rankings. That's an easy go to.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah. You don't even have to have, like, any brain cells to talk about the weather. Like, it just is there for you.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah.
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Sophie Cunningham
I wonder if you could go. I wonder how long you could go. One of us could go without talking about the weather.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Oh, dude, we should try. We should test it.
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Sophie Cunningham
You want to try it this week? Let's do it, dude.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Okay. I'm not kidding. But, like, you have to. If you talk about the weather, get on your notes app and like, Mike Gwynne. Yeah, you have to. You have to. Because I literally talk about it all the time, but mine's more based around, like, tanning. So I'm like, oh, yes. UV uv.
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Sophie Cunningham
Do you want to count it as if we bring it up or if even if someone engages with us and we give it back?
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Kelsey Mitchell
Like, I know it's both ways, I think engage. Like, let's just see how many people talk about the weather.
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Sophie Cunningham
Deal.
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Kelsey Mitchell
This is gonna be good.
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Sophie Cunningham
That's awesome. Okay, podcast back. Sophie's still in Indianapolis because I can see artwork on her walls and a cowboy hat in the back.
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Kelsey Mitchell
I'm. Hey, today I. Okay, so it is Wednesday. And I have been in this apartment for maybe like two weeks now, and it's training camp. So, like, you're just exhausted. Like, it's. It's long days. Like, we can get. We're gonna get into it later in the podcast, but we've had. We had like, a two hour practice yesterday. Strictly defense. And if you want to know what that is, that's like a living hell. And so I just have been so tired. Yeah. I can't get low and shuffle, and that's my problem. I can't shuffle or get low. So it was a really fun practice for me, but I. I have got to clean. Like, I'm putting all my stuff away today. Like, it is a gift, shit done type of day for me. So I'm fine. I've had my second coffee already. Like, I'm ready to go.
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Sophie Cunningham
Second coffee?
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Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah.
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Sophie Cunningham
Holy hell.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah.
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Sophie Cunningham
I've only had this much coffee. I. I've told you about why I like to get coffee in the morning.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah.
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Sophie Cunningham
To, like, get outside and just interact with people and leave my apartment and then bring it back in and then I'll. And then I'll babysit it throughout the whole day.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Well, that's that.
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Sophie Cunningham
Um, talk to me about. I mean, we are, what, three days away from home? Opie.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Is that Saturday? Yeah. Thursday? Friday? Yeah. Three days.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah. How are we feeling? Are you excited? Do you get jitters?
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Kelsey Mitchell
You know, I. I still. I do. I do. Like, it's just good. Like, that just means you're alive. And I think that, like, yes, I will always get jitters. You know what I mean? Like, I think that's, like, part of why you love it so much. But I think we're feeling pretty good. Like, our team is starting to click.
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Sophie Cunningham
When you left Phoenix for Indiana. Walk, Walk, everyone. What it feels like to be tra. Well, I. I always just feel like. Because being traded can be a great thing, but I still would always. I still would always feel like my feelings would be hurt by the team that said goodbye to me. I know it's the business, but, like,
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Kelsey Mitchell
I. I feel you. I feel you. So here's my thing. I'm just going to be very blunt and honest. So here we go. You know, what's new? So with. There are specific players who, like, start their career with one team and end their career with the same exact team. And that's very rare.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah. Very rare though.
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Kelsey Mitchell
It is. And I think I have the potential to do that in Phoenix if I wanted to. Oh. But with that being said, I Think sometimes when you're in that type of spot, you get too comfortable. And, like, you don't really. You're just too comfortable. You can't reach your max potential. You can't. You can grow, but just not to where maybe you could have grown if you go somewhere different. Right, Right. And so actually, they. Phoenix did right by me. They. They. I was close with. They did. They did. I wasn't necessarily too close with, like, our coach in the gm, because they were new that year, but I had been there for, you know, six years. And so I was really close with, like, the management, pretty much everyone who worked there. And so they were like, hey, here's our situation at hand. Like, this doesn't mean we won't ever want you back here, but, like, here's your opportunity. Here's what we're trying to do. And so we had a good conversation. I was like, you know what? Like, heck, yeah, I can get back to the Midwest. Like, I miss my family. I miss my friends. I miss the vibe of the Midwest. Great opportunity here in Indiana because of the basketball piece. And so, yeah, it's more my style of play. Like, it was just a fresh start. And so, yeah, I. I took it and I. I was so excited. And then, like, the next day, I'm not kidding, I stayed in my house and I cried the entire day because I was like, oh, I was so. Cause I was like, oh, my God. What if. What am I doing? Like, I finally have my people here. I'm finally, like, creating kind of, like, a name and a business here in Arizona, making good money, like, all this type of stuff. But who knew? Coming here multiplied by a hundred. And so I just, like, I think when you take big, big risks and stuff like that, it could be scary. But also, like, that is, like, the time when you. When you start to blossom as well. And so I'm so grateful that I did it, but it's. It's hard. And so. But how you were asking, like, you'd always feel like, a certain bite. Yeah, dude. There are some people. Like, when I played in Phoenix last year, there are some people that I just did not like. And there was a couple times, like, after I. I played well that game, and I, like, looked at some people, and I. Sorry. But I also. I was like, you. Because I just had to get it off. Like, I looked right at him in the eye, you guys. So. But, like, it was my. It was my decision to get traded, too. So I'm like, I don't know why
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Sophie Cunningham
I wouldn't expect anything less, obviously.
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Kelsey Mitchell
I know. Nobody does. Nobody ever will.
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Sophie Cunningham
Damn.
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Kelsey Mitchell
But it's fun. But our team, you know, we. We open up against Dallas, and Dallas is looking really freaking good.
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Sophie Cunningham
That's what I was gonna ask you about. A. Did have a quote. Did you see?
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Kelsey Mitchell
Okay. No.
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Sophie Cunningham
She said, honestly, I'm more confused. I thought you could be physical in the W. And anytime I touch someone, that's a foul. I hope I got that verbatim. Yeah. And she didn't get fined either. What? Yeah, that. Actually, I was wondering how you'd feel about that.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Dude. Okay. I have so many opinions on that now that I know that one. I think maybe she didn't get fined because it's preseason.
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Sophie Cunningham
When was your first fine? How old? Or was it when this podcast started?
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Kelsey Mitchell
No, I. I've been fined a lot, I feel like, but not. Not more than last year. This podcast has really done some damage.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah. But it's been a while. Knock on wood. But the season's about to start, so we'll get.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Season. Yeah. Started.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah, we'll get those going again.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Okay. All I'm saying is, I think she has a very valid point because, well, you know what? New year, fresh start. And we've had meetings with the refs, and they. I think that they have owned up for last year, truly. Like, all of our meetings, they're like, we've got to be better. Like, we have nice. Like, wait, does that mean I get my money back? Like, if they're starting to agree with what I saw the entire time, should I be able to get my money back?
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Sophie Cunningham
Taffy.
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Kelsey Mitchell
I'm just saying. Anyway, I. I think it's pretty valid what she says that, like, it is so much more physical than any league, but it's all about, like, how they're going to call the game. So, like, sometimes you can touch them and sometimes you can't. So I think it's just, like, you have to get used to it.
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Sophie Cunningham
Like, do you think. Or was this an issue? Like, safe 10 minutes into a game, do you know how they're gonna call it? Or is it. Is the. Was the problem last year that you couldn't even figure out how they were going to call a game, like, early on?
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Kelsey Mitchell
I think the problem. Yeah, I think the problem with last year, it was just too inconsistent and
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Sophie Cunningham
like this throughout the game? Not throughout the season, but, like, the game was inconsistent. I think individual games. Yeah, I think both.
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Kelsey Mitchell
I think, like, through the game, it was inconsistent from game to game is inconsistent, but, like, overall and this is what they said. So you cannot find me on this because this is like quoting what they said in our meeting is like, they were like, we. We have to do better. Like, it was too physical. It got out of hand. We did not call things. And so, like, they were really dialed in. So this is what they say every year, though. It's like, they are. It is going to be very, I feel like, tic tac Cult foul or tic tac. He fells called at the beginning.
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Sophie Cunningham
Beginning of the year. Yeah.
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Kelsey Mitchell
And then as the season goes, like, it just, like, turns out everyone's beating the shit out of each other towards the end of the season. But, like, that's okay because that's how it always is.
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Sophie Cunningham
Well, so also, like, in the beginning of season some, I mean, obviously sometimes there's rule changes. Sometimes a league is like, we're going to be lighter on this, heavier on this. And so the beginning of the year is also, we're going to give grace to officials because they're figuring out how to. They're calling this season and, like, what's going to play. And you also do have to kind of set a standard for players and coaches. Like, we are calling this shit this year. So, like, get used to it. This is how we're calling it.
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Kelsey Mitchell
And so beginning of the year is
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Sophie Cunningham
probably tough as a player.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Agree. And for them, like, they're trying to get back in their rhythm as well. Like, I get it. They're human. Like, their job is hard. Like, I was watching an NBA game the other day, and, like, everyone just shits on them. Like, I truly do feel bad for them. Like, I do.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah.
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Kelsey Mitchell
But what I was going to say. Fun fact that I don't think a lot of people know is there is. I think it's been around, but I think there was more emphasis on it this year. But there was a committee of coaches. Everyone got together, all the refs got together, and they decided what they wanted the season to look like. And so, like, our league and the refs are truly working together this year. And, you know, there's going to be frustrating things, but even our cook said, like, we're going to start calling. We have refs at our practice every day. And, like, she's like, we have been calling certain things because if we know that the rest are going to be calling this this year. And so it's like, you do have to kind of adjust to it. And Arco just said we want them to call everything, like, call everything. So then we know it's going to be even.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah.
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Kelsey Mitchell
But you know, it's. You say that and then once you're in it, you're like, stop home shit. So we're never satisfied.
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Sophie Cunningham
Do you. Does the W have a flopping problem like the NBA does right now or not at all?
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Kelsey Mitchell
No.
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Sophie Cunningham
That's nice. People are really eating up SGA right now on the Internet.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Dude. Here's my thing about that. He is so damn good.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah. Like why even waste your time?
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Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah. And I, and I get it. Like you can, you can bait people in and that's like part of the game of like getting people in bow trouble. Like the mental aspect, I get it. But like he is so good that there are some calls that like. Well, like come on.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah.
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Kelsey Mitchell
All right. I'm just going to say I've been glued to my jlfilms lately. Flights, workouts, quit coffee runs. They basically call me 24 7.
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Sophie Cunningham
And the wild part, the battery just keeps going. I honestly don't remember the last time I charged mine. It's been that long.
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Kelsey Mitchell
And the sound holds up too. Super clean. Gets loud when you want it to and it doesn't get all distorted on you.
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Sophie Cunningham
I've been rocking the over year pair on flights and it's a total upgrade. Noise canceling is clutch. They're comfortable the entire time.
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Kelsey Mitchell
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Sophie Cunningham
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Sophie Cunningham
I have found. I don't know why this is but I do think the W and the NBA are without a doubt the most vocal leagues about disagreeing with officiating. Like the NFL, you can't really. No one does it that often or you get fined. Baseball, you get like, like people like thrown out of games and there's fights but it's never like public interview. Like I. It just, it feels like the NBA and the W. Like people really share their feelings about not agreeing with officiating. More times than not, you've been fined 900 times. Like it is a sport where people like aren't afraid to speak up, which I don't know if that's good or bad.
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Kelsey Mitchell
I don't either. Like now that you say that do do. Is there enough opportunity for NFL players to speak up against the refs?
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Sophie Cunningham
Well, honestly I would argue no, because post game national interviews are going to be like your quarterback, who knows better most times, one player who had like an important play and then everything else is going to be like locker room interviews. But that's usually like local radio. Like, it's not like on a massive scale. I, I just think football, guys, there's so much outside of your control in football that you can't control. That, like, officiating is just one of like the eight things that you, like, aren't in control of. Where? Basketball. There's five of you. You have like, you can really take over a game.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah.
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Sophie Cunningham
Whenever you want to. And football, there's so many other things.
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Kelsey Mitchell
I'm also saying with football, like, they're literally tackling each other. Right. So like, they can't really be mad about it being too aggressive or stuff like that. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like same with baseball, like, there's not a lot of, like it's a, it's a physical sport, but there's not a lot of like banging with the other team. Have you seen what we are supported by Ring. With Ring, it's protected.
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Sophie Cunningham
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Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah. And I love that you can actually talk through it too. Like if I'm expecting a delivery or someone swings by, I don't have to run to the door. It's that easy.
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Sophie Cunningham
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Kelsey Mitchell
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Sophie Cunningham
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Sophie Cunningham
Exactly. It just fits into your day and makes things feel handled.
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Sophie Cunningham
baseball implemented this year the like challenges. It's kind of awesome. Okay, so as this, as of this year, baseball is doing a really good job right now. I think. I think the MLB is like growing the game in the, in the best way possible. So like I like the human element of umpires. Like you kind of get to know their strike zone. Like sometimes it's bigger, some of it's smaller. Like they're calling whatever.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Human error is a part of the game.
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Sophie Cunningham
Human error totally. But when games end like in the playoffs, unlike a fucking shitty strike call or like when it's purely no one's fault but the umpires, that sucks. So they implemented challenges and a team gets two challenges. A pitcher, a batter or a catcher taps their helmet and then they review it electronically and then they say it's like a ball or strike and you either the ump was right or wrong. But then they go to like where it's electronic and you know or not. So.
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Kelsey Mitchell
So you only get to a game.
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Sophie Cunningham
I think if you. I think if you get them right, then they give you one more. That part, Kev, you might have to look that part up for me. Like, if you. If you get them, then you. Then you keep an extra kind of thing. But you'll. If you watch now. So like, an uncle call strike on a batter, and it's, like, low, and he'll tap his helmet and then they'll review it and they'll be like, oh, it's a ball. And then he can go to first. And I think. But it's not where it's, like, taking over the game. It's, like, only, like, one or two moments to, like, make sure the calls right. And you also leave it in the hands of, like, the players. It's not like New York gets to make the call. I think it's fucking awesome, and I think it's just a little tweak, and it's great.
- [24:05]
Kelsey Mitchell
And I also think it keeps the umpires honest. Right? Like, I know they already are. I know they are. That's their job. Like, they. They are doing the best they very can, but, like, sometimes emotions get involved. Here, Here it is.
- [24:17]
Sophie Cunningham
Oh, here you go. Each team gets two challenges. If you win the challenge, you keep it. Oh, okay. Nice. Oh, so you get. You get two wrong challenges then. So if you're right, you keep them. That's crazy.
- [24:27]
Kelsey Mitchell
Wait, so could you be doing that the entire time, then?
- [24:30]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah, but you could only, like, they're gone if you get the call wrong. So, like, that's interesting. I think most teams, what they've been doing is, like, you're not going to use the challenge when it's like the second inning and there's one out and, like, nobody on. It's like, you. You wait till, like, the 7th, 8th, 9th, and use them in high leverage situations. But I think it's. It's like a massive change to the game, but, like, in a minor way, I think. I think they did it perfect, to be honest.
- [25:00]
Kelsey Mitchell
I like that. But you know what I also enjoy is the review takes. It says five to 10 seconds. I feel like. I feel like ours. Ours have got to be quicker. Like, I do not.
- [25:14]
Sophie Cunningham
NFL struggles with that, too. Football challenges take so long.
- [25:17]
Kelsey Mitchell
NFL. NFL is so long, but I do not understand why unless it's super complicated. But, like, basic calls that I could make, like. Like that. I don't get why it takes so long, especially if you're using the people in New York, you know?
- [25:30]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah, that's a great question, actually, because they do take forever. I mean, I.
- [25:36]
Kelsey Mitchell
The.
- [25:36]
Sophie Cunningham
The standard answer would be, like, you Want to make sure you get it right. But yeah, watch it in slow mo. See what it, see what it is and then keep it moving. Colin Coward always says, and I think this is such a great take. He's like, everyone can think they're right. Watching a replay in slow motion, referees running around. When shit's fast, you don't, it's so hard. And also, but like, once you slow it down, obviously you see things at a different degree and, and things worse
- [26:06]
Kelsey Mitchell
or better when it's, when it's not live.
- [26:10]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah. There's also things, though, that you would consider. Like, yeah, if you watch it in slow motion, if, say we're calling like a shooting foul, like, yeah, your arm, like touches an elbow a millisecond before she shoots. Like, okay, like, you can call that if you want, but also if you watch it in real time, it doesn't affect her shooting motion. Whatever. Like, you'd let it play. So motion can be bad, like not realistic, if that makes sense, you know?
- [26:40]
Kelsey Mitchell
And I will say too, if you really watch any sport, I'm gonna just stick with basketball and football.
- [26:47]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [26:47]
Kelsey Mitchell
You could call something on every play, of course. Like, you could, you could literally call it like probably five battles every play. And so that's another thing is like determining is it, is it big enough to call? Do you need to let them play through like it is? I, I, I feel for the reps. Like, truly, I think that they have a very freaking difficult job. I do.
- [27:08]
Sophie Cunningham
Look at the rest. I know. I was gonna say we have to write that down. So the next time, yeah, you're pissed. I'll be like, remember when you said you feel for them, Them right.
- [27:18]
Kevin (Producer/Host)
Deposit. So be some money back. Be like, all right, yeah, positive comment.
- [27:22]
Sophie Cunningham
Send it back. Do you have that? We just got real technical. We talked about officiating for like 20 minutes. What are your give me fever team goals? Championship or bust, I would imagine. And Sophie goals.
- [27:38]
Kelsey Mitchell
I like that. Okay, so this is so good. I actually want to talk about this because I'm curious to know what your thoughts are on this. And this could be in when you were an athlete. This could be business. Yeah. I mean, you're still athlete. Yeah, I know, but I'm saying, like, it could, you could take this anyway. So. Yeah, I think, I think our, I think everyone's goal is always to win a championship. Like that you get everyone. Is it like, especially when you have the talent, like, everyone wants that. That is a no brainer. But I truly do think that, like, it's all about your daily deposits. And I feel. I know that sounds so simple, but like, what are, what are you doing? What is your team doing every single day? In order to like move in a positive direction? You're either getting better, you're getting worse every day. And sometimes getting better looks really shitty. Like yesterday's practice, we really did spend like two hours strictly on defense in life. And if we messed up and they did something, we were running, we were like doing suicide yesterday. Yeah. Like it's. It is no joke. And so, man, everyone like was looking around and like, besides, like, we're all right.
- [28:48]
Sophie Cunningham
Okay. Hey, answer this honestly. Okay?
- [28:51]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah.
- [28:51]
Sophie Cunningham
Where in the pack are you when you guys condition people are usually always the same, like their whole careers. I feel like from pop. Like Pop Warner to like college, you either are in the front, you hide in the middle, or you like are just really bad at fucking condition.
- [29:07]
Kelsey Mitchell
No, I think, I think that I'm. I'm like hot. No, like, I'm higher middle. Okay, like, so we have give a
- [29:20]
Sophie Cunningham
shout out to whoever, whoever wins suicides who's always at the front.
- [29:25]
Kelsey Mitchell
I think this year Kelsey, Kelsey Mitchell and Reagan Johnson are always pretty good shout out girls. Yeah.
- [29:34]
Kevin (Producer/Host)
So I was gonna ask, do the rookies go extra hard to like prove a point?
- [29:37]
Kelsey Mitchell
And like, dude, you can't, you can't. Everyone has to go hard because you. She only gives you 10 seconds to go to do down and back. So like, and if you don't make it, you're all on the line again. So it's.
- [29:49]
Sophie Cunningham
Is. Is your head coach running that ship or is that your condition, your strength and conditioning coach?
- [29:56]
Kelsey Mitchell
Our head coach.
- [29:57]
Sophie Cunningham
Well, again, not to do football comparisons, but like, as soon as practice, if we have to like run after, do whatever, like, he'll just whistle to the strength coach and then he makes his run, you know, so.
- [30:09]
Kelsey Mitchell
So if you have like extra conditioning or like, if you don't reach a certain amount of minutes, our conditioning, our weight and conditioning coach takes over. But like during practice, if we're like doing drills or like we don't make it or we don't do whatever, it's her call to do that.
- [30:23]
Sophie Cunningham
Oh, so you have more conditioning if you don't play a certain amount of minutes in the game. I mean, makes perfect sense. I just didn't. That's.
- [30:30]
Kelsey Mitchell
Stay ready so you don't have to be ready.
- [30:32]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah, I would like to know the threshold. I. Do you know how many minutes it is to like be like, you played enough?
- [30:38]
Kelsey Mitchell
I don't I don't, but I, I will say that, like, I think when you're a pro, it sounds harsh, but like, you actually want to do that. Of course you want to stay in shape. Like, you want to, you want to, I don't know, you want to be ready. Like, and I think that that's, it's the fun part of, like, you get paid to literally be in shape. Like, how amazing is that? So, like, don't take it for granted. But don't get me wrong, there are days where it's freaking hard and you're like, all right, but what the hell am I doing with my life?
- [31:09]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah, okay. I'm not gonna lie. After going to our first NASCAR race earlier this year, I totally get the hype now.
- [31:17]
Kelsey Mitchell
The second those cars fire up, it's just chaos in the best possible way. Loud, fast people grilling everywhere, fans losing their minds. The atmosphere is absolutely unreal.
- [31:26]
Sophie Cunningham
And now NASCAR is doing something that honestly sounds insane. They're bringing street racing to San Diego in 2026.
- [31:32]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah. And not just anywhere at the Naval base Coronado. Like an actual active military race, which is so cool.
- [31:39]
Sophie Cunningham
It's going to be a full three day weekend, too. Truck series on Friday, Xfinity on Saturday, and then the cup series headline race on Sunday, June 21st.
- [31:47]
Kelsey Mitchell
And the whole weekend lines up with the 250th anniversary of the United States Navy, which makes the whole thing feel even bigger.
- [31:53]
Sophie Cunningham
Plus, street courses always bring a totally different energy, tighter turns, crazier moments, absolute chaos.
- [31:59]
Kelsey Mitchell
Which honestly is exactly what we want.
- [32:01]
Sophie Cunningham
You can grab tickets for this one of a kind event@nascarsandiego.com and you can't
- [32:06]
Kelsey Mitchell
make it out there. Check out the NASCAR Cup Series. Andrew250 Sunday, June 21st on Prime Video at 4:00pm Eastern Time. What were we talking about?
- [32:14]
Sophie Cunningham
Your goals and team goals.
- [32:16]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yes. A team goal that I can share is I know that we want to be the best defensive team.
- [32:22]
Sophie Cunningham
Let's go.
- [32:23]
Kelsey Mitchell
And I think that is a very doable goal because it's everything you can control. It's all about communication. It's about knowing your teammates, what they're good at, what they're bad at. And like, they're like, if I could be, then I know my hope side is going to be there. So it's all about building trust. And I think at the beginning of the year, like, you're trying to do that now because you have a lot of teammates. People play defense differently, but you have to know our scheme. So it's just having each Other's back. So I think we could be. We're fast, versatile, I think. And so I think that we're going to have a pretty good defensive team. That's a good one.
- [32:57]
Sophie Cunningham
That's awesome. I love that.
- [32:59]
Kelsey Mitchell
Okay.
- [32:59]
Sophie Cunningham
I really love that.
- [33:01]
Kelsey Mitchell
Here are my thoughts on personal goals and tell me how you feel about this. Okay, so I think you have a lot of people who are like, have goals writing down, look at them every single day. And I think that those are good to have. Like, you want to have big picture goals and I think it is healthy to write them down. Like, I think it is good to see them. But I think also personally there are so many, like, I could say I want to be a top three three point shooter in our league. Okay. Like, I could say that. But I feel like there's so much out of my control. You know what I mean?
- [33:42]
Sophie Cunningham
Like, you can't, you can't control how, how hot anyone else gets. You can't control who else is.
- [33:47]
Kelsey Mitchell
You can't control how much you get the ball and you can't control how many minutes. Like, there's too much outside of your control where it's like, okay, so for my thing is, I think that I have goals in my head, but for me, my, my goal is like, what am I doing literally every single day in order to better myself, to, like, stay healthy, to be in shape, to make sure I'm getting my shots in, to hit like all this stuff. Because if I'm doing that every single day and that's my goal, to like, stay disciplined to that goal, then at the end of the season, I feel like I'm going to end up where I'm supposed to be and I can control that.
- [34:19]
Sophie Cunningham
Good habits. There's only two things you can control. I've said it on this podcast before. Your attitude and your effort. That's it.
- [34:28]
Kelsey Mitchell
Literally.
- [34:29]
Sophie Cunningham
I like that, Soph.
- [34:30]
Kelsey Mitchell
So, like that. But, like, think about, like, do you have goals for like, your year?
- [34:38]
Sophie Cunningham
No. Yeah.
- [34:43]
Kelsey Mitchell
No. It's a good question on things to, like, go after or, like, things that, like, you would like to do. But at the end of the day, there's so many people and it's so political. Like, there's so many people that are controlling all those strings that, like, what am I doing to, like, set myself up to be well?
- [35:00]
Sophie Cunningham
Also, like, are you countering your goal? If, like, it's the last. There's five seconds left and Caitlyn's open and you pass the ball for, like, her to shoot, like, then it's like, oh, you're like, yeah, you're being a good teammate, but that's not helping you reach your three point. But yeah. So I. I think your mindset is, yeah, lovely.
- [35:21]
Kelsey Mitchell
And I think also it's like, purpose over proving, like, what is your purpose in life? Focus on that. Over, like, proving. Proving yourself. So I just think. I don't know, there's just different mindsets I think.
- [35:34]
Sophie Cunningham
I love. I love that job. Soph. Let's go, Fever. What. What. What uniforms are we wearing for our home opener? Any clue?
- [35:42]
Kelsey Mitchell
No idea, dude. No idea.
- [35:45]
Sophie Cunningham
You are white at home, navy on the road, and then the. The. The stranger things ones.
- [35:52]
Kelsey Mitchell
Well, we also. I feel like I don't even know. I don't even know what we have this year. I think. I think we have.
- [35:57]
Sophie Cunningham
Do you have anything new?
- [35:59]
Kelsey Mitchell
I feel like we. I mean, we had a red jersey last year, but I don't know. The only ones I've seen so far is blue and white, so I feel like you have a red, and I feel like you have a fun jersey. I don't know. They don't tell us anything.
- [36:12]
Sophie Cunningham
If we're going to be on national TV every single game, let's get some. Let's get a fun one, right? Something cool. I know you have black, you have white, you have navy. You said you have red.
- [36:24]
Kelsey Mitchell
I don't know if we have black this year because black was our stranger things last year.
- [36:28]
Sophie Cunningham
Oh, and that's probably, like, a limited deal. Oh, then maybe they'll do another, like, one off. That'd be sick.
- [36:34]
Kelsey Mitchell
Who knows?
- [36:35]
Sophie Cunningham
Let me design those.
- [36:36]
Kelsey Mitchell
Dude, you should. All right, enough about me. Should we get into Summer house? New episode dropped last night. Did Kyle beat everyone's ass?
- [36:45]
Sophie Cunningham
No, I think. I don't. I. I would imagine the fight is the last episode.
- [36:50]
Kelsey Mitchell
There was like a kind of a feud at the. The dinner table. You know, it was like Lindsay and Kyle going at it, and then he turned to Amanda. He left throwing stuff, Cans and stuff at the house. And the other people went outside and even Carl got into it.
- [37:03]
Sophie Cunningham
Like, very crazy.
- [37:06]
Kelsey Mitchell
Is entertaining. Is entertaining.
- [37:08]
Sophie Cunningham
There was a blood on my pants at the end of that. That evening.
- [37:12]
Kelsey Mitchell
Really?
- [37:13]
Sophie Cunningham
That's all I can say. Whose blood did. Might have been mine, honestly, who knows? But.
- [37:19]
Kelsey Mitchell
Oh, Lord.
- [37:22]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah, that's kind of. That's what happens.
- [37:23]
Kelsey Mitchell
When were you guys drinking and stuff or what?
- [37:28]
Sophie Cunningham
I mean, there's never a time where you're not drinking much time where people aren't drinking in that house. But I think, yeah, that that fight ended up being good for Kyle and Carl. Honestly, I. Sometimes with guys, I mean, I don't know about girls, but like, dudes, you just gotta just let them go, you know?
- [37:52]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah. Duke it out a little. Yeah.
- [37:55]
Sophie Cunningham
I mean, have you ever seen there's so many, like, videos on Twitter and the Internet where like, guys are like, like full blown boxing in the street. Someone gets knocked out, they stand up and they like, dap up and walk off.
- [38:06]
Kelsey Mitchell
What the heck? I will never understand that. Is that like a. Is that like. Do you understand that as a man?
- [38:14]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah, kinda. It's just like it's over. Like now we're like, move on, you know? I don't know, I just. That's what, that's. I mean, that's what animals do. Unfortunately, I'm not. Personally, I'm not a fighter, but I also. When I was in college, I remember being the guy who, like, when people would fight, I'd be like, guys stop and like, try to get in the middle and be like, they'll like, break it up guy. And then I was like, these guys are gonna like, do whatever the you want. Like, learn a lesson. You're either gonna get your ass beat or like, get in trouble or feel like, go fight. Like, it has nothing to do with me. Go fight. And like, yeah, again, come back when you're done. Like, if these two people, whoever they are, whatever situation they're in, if fight each other, this beef will be over in 60 seconds. Like, it will be done, you know? And I just like, I've seen it too many times, you know, I. It's just like. It's just like high emotions, you know, into the summer again, drinks. I don't know, but that would be. That would be crazy.
- [39:24]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah.
- [39:24]
Sophie Cunningham
If everyone could fight, like the end of Anchorman. Yeah.
- [39:28]
Kelsey Mitchell
Dude, I love Anchorman. That is such a good show.
- [39:32]
Kevin (Producer/Host)
No touching of the hair face.
- [39:33]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah. That was kind of our mom's rule growing up. Like, when me and Lindsay were like, in fights, it was like, no hitting in the head. You can hit anywhere but the head.
- [39:43]
Sophie Cunningham
What about hair pulling? That's. Whenever I see girl fights, the one thing I'm like, I always. I always cringe at is like, girls grab so much hair and like, do
- [39:55]
Kelsey Mitchell
you want to know what's so funny? Is like, where'd you grab homegirl?
- [39:59]
Sophie Cunningham
Underneath the basket?
- [40:02]
Kelsey Mitchell
Just her neck. I didn't punch her. I just grabbed her by her neck. That's. It's fine. I did not do any of that. But I will say that our mom always said, don't hit in the head. Like, don't hit the face and head because your brain is like the most important thing. And don't, don't. If you're, if you're gonna do something, don't be pulling here because that, well, don't, don't do that. Like, that is just like catty and shitty. Like, if you're gonna do it. So, yeah, our mom was like, if you're going to be about it, be about it.
- [40:29]
Sophie Cunningham
Damn,
- [40:31]
Kelsey Mitchell
Mama B was brutal. But, like, she wasn't wrong. Like, think about that. Like, I was like, I also don't want to be fighting.
- [40:39]
Sophie Cunningham
Like, I don't know, I just never would, I would never. I would never spend time standing up. Like, I just, I just, it's. That's so. It's just such a waste of time. I would always go single leg or double leg, take down, scoop and like, have them on the ground. And you're. I'm going to be better on the ground anyways than boxing.
- [40:59]
Kelsey Mitchell
But like, here's the thing. When, when you, when you actually know how to fight, like, you know what to go for. You know what I mean?
- [41:06]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah.
- [41:06]
Kelsey Mitchell
And like all these other fights are like just pulling hair and like, you know, like the caddy, but like, go for the fucking knee, go for the stim set. You know, like, what are we doing?
- [41:16]
Sophie Cunningham
Okay, wait. If you love basketball. Chaos, family drama, and people plotting behind the scenes. Running Point is back on Netflix and I am already in. It's from Mindy. Kal stars Kate Hudson and somehow feels like the perfect mix of sports world pressure and absolute dysfunction.
- [41:30]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah. And this season, Isla Gordon's not the surprise choice anymore. Now everybody's watching her, the team's bouncing back, the pressure's up, and she's trying to prove she actually deserves to run the franchise.
- [41:41]
Sophie Cunningham
Meanwhile, her brother's low key, trying to take the job behind the scenes. So it's family drama, politics, pressure, all
- [41:46]
Kelsey Mitchell
mixed with basketball and yeah, Kate Hudson running a basketball team. Say less. Watch Running Point Season 2, only on Netflix.
- [41:53]
Sophie Cunningham
I feel bad now thinking back, like, when I used to wrestle with my brother. We're too weird. Like, our age gap is a little too big. Like, I was big, I was bigger than him, and I just kind of beat the shit out of him a little bit. And I feel bad about it now. I'll take.
- [42:07]
Kelsey Mitchell
Now you do. Yeah. Now you feel bad, but like, in the moment, you're also like, that's like the sisterly and like, brotherly love that you need.
- [42:14]
Sophie Cunningham
Were you. Were you And Lindsay, ever that much was your whole life.
- [42:21]
Kelsey Mitchell
My whole life. Because I'm just built different. And like, Lindsay. Lindsay just isn't. Like, she's. She's not. But. But you know what? She's like more like. She's the one who, like, pinches and scratches, and I'm more like, you know, interesting. So it's all these. Yeah, there's different. Different methods.
- [42:42]
Sophie Cunningham
So I just remember with my brother, I would tackle him and I would. I would. This is so bad. But I could end someone's day if we were wrestling. If I would scoop them up and then as I'm coming down, kind of like let go of my feet and then put all my body weight in my shoulder. And then just not just my brother. Like, I mean, I wrestled every. Like, I was always wrestling, but, like, that was. The killer is just a shoulder right in your gut and take the wind out of you and then just keep it walking.
- [43:12]
Kelsey Mitchell
I just. Like, why. Why is that a human thing? Like, why? What?
- [43:15]
Sophie Cunningham
Fighting?
- [43:16]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah.
- [43:16]
Sophie Cunningham
Like every animal on the planet, they all fight each other. It's for, guess what, Sex. And for Alpha.
- [43:24]
Kelsey Mitchell
I don't think that I was fighting my sister for those things. No, it was more over, like, a shirt that she stole for me. We are supported by ring. With ring, it's protected.
- [43:35]
Sophie Cunningham
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- [43:43]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah. And I love that you can actually talk through it too. Like, if I'm expecting a delivery or someone swings by, I don't have to run to the door. It's that easy.
- [43:50]
Sophie Cunningham
And the details it picks up are wild. Between the motion alerts and the low light quality, you're not guessing what's going on. It just tells you.
- [43:56]
Kelsey Mitchell
I've been using the outdoor cam plus around my place, especially at night, and it's so clear. The wide view, the retinal 2K video. You can see everything around your yard without missing anything. And I don't have to rely on my dog to be on the lookout anymore, even though he's such a good boy.
- [44:13]
Sophie Cunningham
And if you want to go even bigger, Ring's got 4K cameras and doorbells with retinal vision, so you can zoom in and keep all those details super crisp.
- [44:19]
Kelsey Mitchell
For me, it's just peace of mind. Whether it's deliveries, my car, or just my space, it's nice knowing everything's covered without it being complicated.
- [44:27]
Sophie Cunningham
Exactly. It just fits into your day and makes things feel handled.
- [44:29]
Kelsey Mitchell
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- [46:22]
Sophie Cunningham
Well, that shirt would then go into protective protection and safety. And you were fighting over
- [46:34]
Kelsey Mitchell
fabric, not sex or food.
- [46:38]
Sophie Cunningham
No, but it comes down. It's still like if you could break everything down, it comes down to like, survival.
- [46:43]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah, but like, you know, it's just stupid. I mean, whatever. Yeah, I know, you're right.
- [46:49]
Sophie Cunningham
But I mean, I, I, whenever I, whenever I see two drunk guys at a bar fighting and I'm like, these idiots, like, they don't look cool. They don't look tough. However, I think about all those videos you watch. There's a, there's like, let's say, let's talk, let's say bighorn sheep. Two bighorn sheep on a mountain. Yeah, there's the female sheep and then there's one of the rams comes walking through.
- [47:14]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah.
- [47:14]
Sophie Cunningham
Because he could smell her. And then another one shows up because she either put out a mating call or they could smell her. Whatever. Those two, she's gonna. She waits there. And then those two sheep ram heads at like, whatever million miles an hour with so much force. And, like, whoever, whichever one of them backs down, the other one gets the girl. And, like. And it's so lame. And we are civilized society and we should be better than that. But, like, I'm always like. It's just so core to, like, what animals have been doing forever. It's just in a bar and these guys are, like, drunk and there's like a bad song on. That's the only difference, dude.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Also, I was. I got like, stuck on. Sometimes I get stuck on, like, African safari type. I don't know, TikTok stuff. I have no idea. Yeah, it really is. And I saw two hippos really going at it. And like, dude, insane. Like, it was. It's intense. Hippos were super dangerous.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah. And they're fast.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah. Did you know they came? Yeah. Two male hippos going at it. Something that I love about male hippos. Or not male hippos, just hippos in general, but, like, you know, like, when they poop, how they like their tails like this, and it goes like, why did I do that? Like, why did they do that?
- [48:31]
Sophie Cunningham
Because they can do whatever they want because they're hippos.
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Kelsey Mitchell
You know what I'm talking about, though.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah. I saw a video also the other day of an orca at SeaWorld. So that orca's always pissed. It's.
- [48:43]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah, he's in SeaWorld. He shit.
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Sophie Cunningham
I agree. It swims right by. Everyone shits all in the water, swims away and then comes back and tail flaps the shit water onto everyone watching him. And it's just like, you're petty, but I get it. Like, that was. You have every right to do that. Do you know orcas have never. Orcas have never killed a human being in the wild. Never in the history of them being alive.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Why are you surprised?
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Sophie Cunningham
But, like, people have been like, scuba diving with them and watching them whatever they like. They kill fucking seals for fun all the time. But, like, for some reason they know something that we don't know about, like, human beings. And they, like, see us as friends. It's fucking. It's so confusing and I have no idea why, but no one knows why.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Here's my thing is I love. I love the ocean. Like, I think it is, like, it is so fascinating. I think the animals are beautiful. I think. I don't know, but the older I get, I've always wanted to swim with Whales. I've always wanted to swim with sharks. The older I get, I'm starting to get really freaked out because of how fucking deep the ocean is.
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
Wait.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah.
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
Guys, I swear to God, I was going to get here and ask this question, but it's kind of super weird, the Ocean. I think 80% of it's, like, unexplored. It's so deep. Yeah, dark. Do we think aliens either live or will come from the ocean?
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Kelsey Mitchell
I think the Megalodon. I think the Megalodon is real.
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Sophie Cunningham
We know what it takes for something to live and survive in the ocean. So I wouldn't consider anything that's, like, that we don't know about in the ocean to be an alien. I believe in aliens in outer space, but, like, I think we know enough about the ocean and what already currently lives in it that I wouldn't call these aliens. But, like, I'm sure there's that we don't know about, dude. Like those big squids. Those big squids that live way down low, dude.
- [50:31]
Kelsey Mitchell
But, like, think about, like, Jurassic Park. Jurassic park and those crazy animals that live. I. I think that, like, we know enough that maybe those aliens that, like, our typical aliens we think of aren't living in the ocean. But I don't think we know a lot about, like, the depths of the ocean because, like, no, we can't get down there. Even the machines and stuff, they eventually break because of the pressure and, like, that rip.
- [50:52]
Sophie Cunningham
What was that? That boat called, the little sub. Oh, the original. Yeah. Submercer.
- [50:59]
Kelsey Mitchell
Why would they ever do that?
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Sophie Cunningham
Help me remember the name. Ocean Gate. The one of them was a kid.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Oh, that's sad. I think I get scared that, like, an animal will, like. Will this, like, get me? And, like, just keep taking me deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper. Like, that's what I'm scared of.
- [51:17]
Sophie Cunningham
But you, I think you drown and die within 60 seconds because you're also, like, fighting to stay alive.
- [51:23]
Kelsey Mitchell
I would raise that idea sometimes.
- [51:27]
Sophie Cunningham
Sometimes in the pool, I'll try to see how long I can hold my breath. Max, 12 seconds. I can't hold my breath for I am so bad.
- [51:36]
Kelsey Mitchell
That is horrible. West, you need to work on your breathing. Breathing is really good to, like, reset your system. It's really good for a lot of things. You're an idiot.
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
Close to 12. I think he's gonna go for a new personal record.
- [51:54]
Kelsey Mitchell
We can't do anything. That's pretty good. That's 11, 12 seconds.
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
Yeah, I think we're about, like, 10, 15.
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Sophie Cunningham
Okay. There's there's something about in the water that just makes it harder for me. I don't know why, but there was 20 I did.
- [52:08]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah. I think that's pretty. This has nothing to do. You should seriously start working on your breeding bre I mouth.
- [52:14]
Sophie Cunningham
I mouth tape when I go to bed. Does that matter? It means you only breathe in and out through your nose, and it's supposed to be really good for you.
- [52:22]
Kelsey Mitchell
No, I know, but I'm saying, like, for your nervous system, like, there's different types of breathing that, like, resets it and, like, I don't know, you should, like, look into the breathing methods. It's actually really good.
- [52:33]
Sophie Cunningham
Okay, I'll do that.
- [52:35]
Kelsey Mitchell
You should. You should.
- [52:37]
Sophie Cunningham
Hey, Kev, what the frick is going on in the world?
- [52:40]
Kelsey Mitchell
The most sporadic fucking podcast.
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
I kind of love it. And because we're. I think we're in a creative headspace, I think my first headline I want to share to you guys is this stats company, Deloitte did a survey for Gen Zers 18 to 29 and over. 38% of Gen Z' ers says they prefer to live in the present, but 33% would like to live less than 50 years in the past. So that's about. From 1975 to 1980, 14% said they want to live over 50 years in the past, 10% said they want to live less than 50 years in the future, and 5% choose more than 50 years in the future. So full Jetson level, like, next level society, guys. Do you prefer an era or a time period where you can imagine yourself existing and living in. And thriving in.
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Sophie Cunningham
This is an interestingly timed question for me right now, because I don't. The. The present's not my favorite. I. I think anyone who wants to live 50 years or more than 50 years, actually, people were comfortable 50 years ago. I think that would be fine. But more than 50. I think it would be fun historically to, like, like, see how society was operating and, like, learn. But I don't think you would want to, like, be alive pre. I don't know, pre1975. It was just. I, like, I hate to bring this up, but, like, civil rights and was like, not that long ago. Like, we always think of it, like, historically, but it. It is, like, very, very, very recent.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Yes.
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Sophie Cunningham
And so I was just sending that.
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Kelsey Mitchell
When people were saying that, I was like, how's that? Why would you want that for people?
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Sophie Cunningham
I just don't think it would actually be a. Like, especially now where we are, like, we have made a lot of progress. I think living going back to that. You would be like, what the actual am I doing here?
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Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah.
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Sophie Cunningham
And it would be, like, a really weird time to. Or like, a weird place to be present in. In a weird way. Maybe it would. It would, like, you gain appreciation for everything that we've made progress on and accomplished as a society. But I still think that's weird. I think I'm gonna go 50 years in the future.
- [54:59]
Kelsey Mitchell
Future?
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
Yeah.
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Sophie Cunningham
Why not? I would assume. Why not?
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
I assume cars fly by then. And ideally we'd have some more clarity on what's going on in the ocean by then.
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Sophie Cunningham
The only thing is the planet could be on fire and flooded. I just am like, let's mix it up, you know?
- [55:17]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah, you really mix it up. I did not think that you were going to say that.
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Sophie Cunningham
Kev said he wants to live around the Middle Ages and dark ages, around 476 AD okay.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Why?
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
An incredible answer. I already don't have, like, a very good sense of smell, so I'm. Obviously, it's pretty stinky back then. I don't think that would have to be, like, a big issue for me. I think I would look good in
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Sophie Cunningham
a suit of armor.
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
I'm just going to say it.
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Sophie Cunningham
That's fair.
- [55:41]
Kelsey Mitchell
All black.
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Sophie Cunningham
Would you. Are you, like, living in your current geographical location as yourself, or can I go back 100, 200 years and go live in a castle in, like, Scotland and. Let me answer, King.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah, here's mine. So my. My dream, I think growing up in the 90s was freaking awesome. Like, it was. It was simple times. You had enough technology. But it wasn't overdone. Your parents at games were on the back of tailgating with other parents, drinking beer. You were out playing at, like, people. The. The style was better. Everything was just, like, more simple. And I just feel like it was just, like, happier times. And I feel like there's a trend of people trying to get back to the 90s. I think the 90s were the best era.
- [56:29]
Sophie Cunningham
Like, I truly do everything Pendulums. And so when I see now how every kid in, like, fifth grade has a cell phone and. And babies, like, are watching iPads at dinners and stuff. We did, like.
- [56:43]
Kelsey Mitchell
Or.
- [56:44]
Sophie Cunningham
Do you know what drives me crazy? These youth baseball videos I see on Twitter where, like, the kids wearing a GoPro and, like, a neon arm sleeve and there's, like, a content guy.
- [56:53]
Kelsey Mitchell
That's what I'm saying.
- [56:54]
Sophie Cunningham
Will go away and. And it's pretty miserable. I do think you and I were like, right before, like, technology, like, kind of ruined everyone. Like, I think we all got phones, like, late in high school. And, like, yes. You know, I think.
- [57:09]
Kelsey Mitchell
But even though you had phones, like, you were still so present with your classmates. Like, you. You weren't on your phone. Like, you enjoyed the people around you. You had it if you needed it. Like, I'm telling you, growing up, I feel like 90s, early 2000s, was the best. Like, I. I want to. I want to get back to that, but I think that's my dream. But I would also live having seen Game of Thrones.
- [57:30]
Sophie Cunningham
No, we've talked about this. I, like, didn't. I remember. Everyone talked about it. Everyone talked about it in the locker room. And I felt so left out. And then I tried, but I was.
- [57:38]
Kelsey Mitchell
You should feel left out because it's so good. But I would live in those ages, like, the castles, the houses, the territories. Like, back then, too, I think it had been. Oh, God, everyone's on horses. Like, that's how people travel through a garden. Like, it was awesome.
- [57:54]
Sophie Cunningham
But if you were a peasant or, like, a fucking whatever, like, if we're talking caste system, if you're at the bottom, it would be the worst thing ever.
- [58:05]
Kelsey Mitchell
No, I don't think you understand. I would be a queen, and I would run my own kingdom.
- [58:10]
Sophie Cunningham
Okay, yeah, fair enough.
- [58:12]
Kelsey Mitchell
I'm not being a peasant.
- [58:14]
Sophie Cunningham
Okay, then. Yeah. Then I guess we both can justify historical times, but very, very, very far.
- [58:22]
Kelsey Mitchell
And if I could have dragons, I. I'd have some damn dragons, too. I. I would be the real mother of dragons.
- [58:30]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah.
- [58:31]
Kelsey Mitchell
So. Yeah, I like that one.
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
I can see that. All right, guys, so now I'm gonna take you to. Oh, go ahead, Wes. You got it.
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Sophie Cunningham
I just don't know what these kids who are Gen Z or, like, whatever the youngest age was, what do they know? Like, what do they know about. I just don't picture those kids knowing anything about history because they're on their damn phone so much.
- [58:52]
Kevin (Producer/Host)
Yeah.
- [58:52]
Sophie Cunningham
And they don't know maps. They don't know anything, dude.
- [58:55]
Kelsey Mitchell
They don't know how to read. They don't know how to read the original clocks. Do you guys know that?
- [59:01]
Kevin (Producer/Host)
I can see.
- [59:02]
Kelsey Mitchell
You guys know that?
- [59:03]
Kevin (Producer/Host)
I can see that.
- [59:04]
Kelsey Mitchell
That's fucking mind blowing. Yeah.
- [59:07]
Sophie Cunningham
Gabriel, I don't know if the time's right on here.
- [59:11]
Kelsey Mitchell
Oh, it is. That's okay.
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
I would also say, like, you know when people, like, do this or they do this? Like, oh, do you call. Take a phone now, kids, like, they do this. Like, they don't know what this is?
- [59:22]
Kelsey Mitchell
Or they go like this. Yeah, yeah.
- [59:24]
Kevin (Producer/Host)
They don't know.
- [59:26]
Kelsey Mitchell
Also, how do you guys hold up a heart? Make a heart with your hands or.
- [59:31]
Sophie Cunningham
I don't do this shit. That's annoying.
- [59:33]
Kevin (Producer/Host)
What is? Like, I can't even. I'm embarrassing, dude.
- [59:35]
Kelsey Mitchell
I can't. I can't even. I can't even do it.
- [59:38]
Sophie Cunningham
I think the cape. I think the K Pop girls made this. Cool.
- [59:40]
Kevin (Producer/Host)
Yeah, that's a good one. That's. Yeah, that's what I.
- [59:43]
Kelsey Mitchell
What is it that I can't do that.
- [59:46]
Sophie Cunningham
Like this. You're not even doing it right. It's pointers in middle.
- [59:51]
Kelsey Mitchell
It's what?
- [59:52]
Sophie Cunningham
Literally, pointers in middle.
- [59:54]
Kelsey Mitchell
Oh, there you go.
- [59:56]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah, it's gross.
- [59:58]
Kelsey Mitchell
I like this. All right. All right, what's next?
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Sophie Cunningham
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
Now. One more headline for me and we'll take it a present day. So there's a new law alert in Kansas city. World cup six weeks away. They are now allowed to serve alcohol 23 hours a day. Kansas City, Missouri will be host of four countries. England Argentina, Algeria and Netherlands. And then obviously the games will be at Arrowhead Stadium. I feel like these England blokes know how to take down a pint. I feel like they'll enjoy this new rule. But guys, any suggestions for our friends coming to visit the States? Where does your head up in, Casey,
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Sophie Cunningham
I'm curious, what hour is the hour that they're not open? Like, are we keeping bars open until. Yeah, wait, Kev, honestly, can you click the link? Does it say. I have seen a lot of discourse on Twitter that, like, Kansas City hotels are feeling a little underwhelmed by occupancy right now because the prices are so high and they're not being sold that they. They feel like the whole thing has been like, not projected correctly. So from.
- [62:13]
Kevin (Producer/Host)
From 6am to the next 23 hours. So, like, maybe they'll be closed then from 5 to 6, if that of that math tracks, dude. That's a good time to close. 5am I feel like by 5am You've already done your damage if you're not, you know.
- [62:26]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah, but what if your team's playing? Like, what if your team is like, I don't know. Is there anything.
- [62:33]
Sophie Cunningham
But I will say, though, that's interesting though, because the games will be still North American times. So they're not gonna be like, normally when the World cup is overseas, you're like, games are going on at three in the morning. But now
- [62:49]
Kelsey Mitchell
people from the Netherland can drink, though. I think they're gonna meet their mats at the Midwesterners, especially. I think that's gonna be fun. I think people are gonna. I think. I think people in Kansas City and who. Who's all coming from the Netherlands, Algeria,
- [63:04]
Sophie Cunningham
Netherlands, Argentina and England.
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Kelsey Mitchell
I think England, like, I think. I think they're going to love the Midwestern people, truly. Especially Kansas City. Everyone is so great in Kansas City. They're going to love it.
- [63:15]
Sophie Cunningham
So. So Kansas City actually has a good, like, base of soccer fans. They're called, like the Outlaws or something. And they watch us games at Power and Light. Like, you know where everyone goes to watch games at PNL and they all, like, camp out there. I hope they still get to, like, keep that spot. But I'm. If. If all these people are staying out there for 24 hours a day, it's going to be mayhem.
- [63:39]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah. But maybe they'll embrace it because now they have other. Other people that are also fans.
- [63:44]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah, we'll see. Oh, I know what you mean.
- [63:49]
Kelsey Mitchell
So if you guys are listening, Power and Light, I think is the Way to go. If you're like. Especially in that environment, there's, like, how many bars are in power?
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Sophie Cunningham
Like 15.
- [63:58]
Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah, 15 in one spot. All different types of vibes.
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Sophie Cunningham
Power and light will, like, always be on tv, too. They'll always cut to it when us is playing. So that's.
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Kelsey Mitchell
Yeah. Yeah. It's fun.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yay. Yay.
- [64:11]
Kelsey Mitchell
Honestly was a very good and sporadic episode.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah, it was. A lot of WNBA and then just straight into ocean talk for, like, a lot of.
- [64:20]
Kelsey Mitchell
A lot of. We went into a lot of details on a lot of things.
- [64:23]
Sophie Cunningham
That's good.
- [64:24]
Kelsey Mitchell
Pretty good. I like that.
- [64:26]
Sophie Cunningham
That was good. Bye, guys. Miss ya. Love ya. See you soon.
- [64:31]
Kelsey Mitchell
You guys like my new nails?
- [64:32]
Sophie Cunningham
Also, Royals. Stay hot. They've won nine out of 11. Keep that shit fucking going. Yeah.
- [64:38]
Kelsey Mitchell
Wow. I didn't know that.
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Sophie Cunningham
Yeah.
- [64:41]
Kelsey Mitchell
Later, we're both wearing our blue.
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Sophie Cunningham
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Kevin (Producer/Host)
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Sophie Cunningham
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Kelsey Mitchell
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Kelsey Mitchell
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