Sophie & West welcome Meredith Marks who Spills on DJ Life, Jen Shah's release & The Plane Footage

Summary

Show Me Something – Sophie & West Welcome Meredith Marks (Dec 22, 2025)

Episode Title: Sophie & West welcome Meredith Marks who Spills on DJ Life, Jen Shah's release & The Plane Footage
Podcast: Show Me Something (iHeartPodcasts and The Volume)
Guests: Meredith Marks
Hosts: Sophie Cunningham, West Wilson

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Brief Overview

In this lively episode, WNBA star Sophie Cunningham and her best friend, West Wilson, are joined by Meredith Marks, entrepreneur, fashion icon, DJ, and star of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. The conversation dives into Meredith’s multifaceted life: her rise as a DJ, the reality of Housewives fame, her jewelry business, and candid takes on recent Bravo happenings—including Jen Shah’s release from prison and those infamous plane rumors. Listeners are treated to a candid, warm, and revealing chat, full of celebrity insight and personal stories.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Introducing Meredith & Life Updates

• Meredith as the inaugural guest:
  Meredith is celebrated as their first-ever interview subject, described as a “fashion, jewelry powerhouse, a DJ” and “WNBA lover” (04:03).
• Birthday recap:
  • Meredith’s chill New York birthday: lunch with an old friend, massage, and dinner with family (04:32).

Meredith's Background: From Chicago to Salt Lake City

• Chicago roots to Salt Lake City move:
  • Moved due to husband Seth’s job at Overstock.com; raising kids in a “ski town” vs. urban Chicago (05:30, 05:40).
  • Children spent time in Chicago, Toronto, Dallas; Park City was “very, very different, especially raising kids, you know, in Park City versus Chicago.” (05:40–06:37)
• Sports interests:
  • Admits: “I’m not really a sports girl in general... I do love sports with horses... But in terms of watching basketball, these women are insanely incredible." (06:58–07:51)
  • Huge supporter of WNBA after attending a championship game: “It just felt good. It was like a really feel good moment.” (06:58–07:51)

Becoming a DJ: The Origin Story

• How it began:
  • Invited to DJ at Pride events in Pittsburgh and West Hollywood (08:31–09:00).
  • Describes first gig: “They rolled out in a bathtub... and it was so fun.” (09:00)
  • “It has been the most fun thing I have ever done in my life. It's like having a party every night but not really having to do all the heavy lifting...” (08:31)
• Favorite venues:
  • “Probably Times Square, just because that's like such an iconic place... But West Hollywood... you definitely have people that are like, they are there, they're staying. No one's moving around. And it's great.” (10:55–11:48)
  • “If you had told me five years ago you're going to DJ in Times Square, I'd be like, you're crazy.” (11:33–11:48)

Life on Reality TV & The Jen Shah Situation

• Speaking on Jen Shah’s release:
  • “I have not spoken to her since she got out. She did call me once from prison about a year and a half ago..." (12:50)
  • On her possible return to Housewives: “Andy seems to say no, so my guess is probably not then.” (13:54)
• Reflections on cast changes:
  • “Our dynamics have shifted so many times by so much. Everyone has grown a lot and I’m sure she has too... I don’t know what the dynamic would be.” (14:24)

The Reunion Experience & Reality TV Advice

• Reunion filming:
  • “It was very cathartic for me. I kind of really got to say the large majority of what I wanted to say.” (16:08)
• Advice for kids on reality TV:
  • “Just to really be sure to be true to yourself... anything that you do because somebody told you to do it... is not going to work and you’re going to regret it.” (17:03)

Entrepreneurship & The Jewelry Business Story

• Her career pivot after a life event:
  • Meredith shares the traumatic story of being mugged in Chicago, which led her to leave real estate and start her jewelry brand:
    • “I was dragged across the street by my handbag... a taxi driver stopped and started chasing him. He went to prison for three years for aggravated battery.” (29:31–30:28)
  • On starting the jewelry business in a recession:
    • “My mother called me screaming... and you’re starting a luxury business... and I did.” (31:13)
  • “I studied at the Gemological Institute of America... and just dove in head first and that was it. Jewelry, it’s my passion.” (32:15)
• Expansion into other luxury goods:
  • “When I got on the show, I really wanted to figure out something consumable that also sits in the luxury space. And Caviar was another passion.” (32:47)

Life Beyond 'Housewife' Label

• Feelings about the term 'housewife':
  • “I don’t take offense to it, but I don’t want to be pigeonholed into that being the whole essence of my being... I like things to be shown in a broader pict.” (33:37)
  • “The only change I made this season [on social] was I added water bender, so. Because I just think everyone. Everybody knows.” (34:11)
• On always being an entrepreneur:
  • “I’ve always had a drive for different entrepreneurial things. I just like to keep creating and building and growing and it’s—it’s almost like a disease...” (34:46)

Behind the Scenes: Friendships, Filming, and Fame

• Cast relationships on and off season:
  • “Everyone kinds of ebbs and flows... because I, you know, really only live in Park City about five months out of the year, I’m gone a lot.” (22:01)
  • “When you’re not filming, it is refreshing to, like, kind of take a second to yourself...” (23:07)
• Season dynamics and viewer perspective:
  • On not everything being shown:
    • “Of course, there are times—it vary season to season... all we're seeing about me is not very positive…” (36:41)

Fashion, Branding, and Bravo Culture

• Fashion Forward and styling:
  • “I think everyone wants to see what you’re wearing, how you look, what you look like in real life... then they all express a lot of love, which is amazing.” (47:32)
  • On personal style and use of stylists:
    • “Sometimes I’ll style myself. Sometimes I have a handful of stylists I’ll hire. Sometimes I have my kids help me. It just totally depends on what it is and what I need and how much time I have...” (46:26)

The (Infamous) Plane Footage and Tabloid Rumors

• Responding to rumors:
  • “If I was screaming, dumping wine and pulling hair, there would have been video footage... Some people do. What they’re saying happened is not what happened.” (40:03)
  • On traveling:
    • “Contrary to what everyone thinks I am, I am not a nervous traveler. I'm actually an excellent traveler. I love flying. It's my peaceful time. It's my time to myself.” (41:23)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On life’s unpredictability (DJing & Bravo stardom):

  • “If you had told me five years ago you’re going to DJ in Times Square, I’d be like, you’re crazy.” – Meredith Marks (11:44)

• On Jen Shah returning to RHOSLC:

  • “Andy seems to say no, so my guess is probably not then.” – Meredith Marks (13:54)

• On being true to yourself as a reality star:

  • “You should do what you want to do and what resonates as authentic and true to yourself... Anything that you do because somebody told you to do it... is not going to work and you’re going to regret it.” – Meredith Marks (17:03)

• On surviving and transforming after getting mugged:

  • “I got saved by getting mugged somehow. I don’t know.” – Meredith Marks (31:13)

• On ‘Housewife’ label:

  • “I don’t want to be pigeonholed into that being the whole essence of my being... I like things to be shown in a broader pict.” – Meredith Marks (33:37)

• On being more than what’s shown on TV:

  • “You’re seeing snippets of our lives and you’re not going to see the whole story or the whole picture because quite frankly, that’s what makes it entertaining...” – Meredith Marks (36:41)

• On Bravo fandom:

  • “The Salt Lake City women are like... the queen bees everywhere you walk. Everyone wants to take pictures.” – Co-host (25:51)

• On self-care and flying:

  • “I actually, contrary to what everyone thinks I am, I am not a nervous traveler... It’s my peaceful time. It’s my time to myself.” – Meredith Marks (41:23)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 04:03 – Meredith’s intro and birthday recap
• 05:30 – Childhood in Chicago, moving to Salt Lake/Park City
• 08:31 – How Meredith became a DJ & Pride events
• 10:55 – Favorite cities/venues as a DJ
• 12:50 – Talking Jen Shah's release, prison call (and possible return)
• 16:08 – Reunion takeaways; catharsis from the season
• 17:03 – Reality TV advice for kids/family
• 29:31 – Story of being mugged and career shift to jewelry
• 31:13 – Starting a business during the recession
• 33:37 – Feelings about “housewife” label
• 40:03 – Responding to plane incident rumors
• 46:26 – How Meredith styles herself for events & BravoCon
• 49:11 – Brooks Marks track suit clothing line launch
• 51:59 – Meredith’s DJ tour schedule announcement

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Conclusion

This episode provides a fun, honest, and insightful look into Meredith Marks’ whirlwind life as a businesswoman, reality star, and DJ. She thoughtfully addresses Bravo rumors, shares how trauma led her to entrepreneurship, and gives tips for surviving (and thriving) in the public eye. Listeners get a behind-the-scenes peek at both the glitz and the reality of Housewives fame, plus inspiring lessons about authenticity, reinvention, and staying true to oneself.

If you want first-hand perspectives on reality TV, resilience, and creativity, this conversation is a must-listen.

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[Meredith Marks]

I think probably not. I. I would think that they're not airing it there, but I don't know. I don't really know.

[Co-host]

Could you just walk into a prison and it's just salt. Salt Lake City house.

[Meredith Marks]

Could you imagine them, like, cafeteria that she's in? Like, that would be so wild. So wild.

[Co-host]

It would be crazy.

[Meredith Marks]

Foreign.

[Host]

Hello, everybody. Welcome back to Show Me Something podcast. Today is a very, very exciting day for our podcast. We are doing something new, something we've never done before, and we're starting it off with a freaking bang, guys.

[Co-host]

It is, I'm going to say best friend first. But also she's an entrepreneur, fashion, jewelry powerhouse, a DJ. We love DJs in the Bravo world. And also a WNBA lover. The wonderful, beautiful, incredible Meredith Marks, our first guest. Cannot be any better.

[Meredith Marks]

This is so fun. I'm so excited to be the first one.

[Co-host]

First things first. Happy belated B day.

[Meredith Marks]

Thank you.

[Co-host]

Did you do. Did you do anything super sweet?

[Host]

You know what?

[Meredith Marks]

I had a really chill day. I had lunch with an old friend of mine and Brooks and his boy boyfriend. Then I got a massage and then I went to dinner with my family. Really chill. Amazing. Exactly what I needed was that in. In New York. In New York, yeah.

[Co-host]

Oh, in New York. Oh, beautiful.

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah, the kids all live there, so.

[Host]

Well, you know, we're.

[Meredith Marks]

We're there somewhat part time, but the kids are all there.

[Host]

Wait, do you think you're going to move up there?

[Meredith Marks]

I mean, I've been there part time for many, many years. I don't think I'll ever move there full time. I love New York, but I also love coming and going. You know, it's. It's intense. It's so much fun. But, like, I don't know if I could handle it 365 days a year.

[Co-host]

It's a lot. You are remind everyone. Born in Chicago.

[Meredith Marks]

Born in Chicago. Yeah.

[Co-host]

Or grew up in Chicago. Yeah. And then like, when did you move to Salt Lake. And what was like the whole process getting to Salt Lake?

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah, I mean, we were in Chicago and Seth, he had an opportunity as an [e-mail], which is based in Salt Lake, and called me from there and was like, I think we should move here. And I was like, well, I don't know. I've never lived in. I'd never even lived in a suburb. Nonetheless, a ski resort. So I was like, okay, let's see what it's like living in Park City. Let's try it out. And it was very, very different, especially raising kids, you know, in Park City versus Chicago. And we had, you know, we'd moved around a little bit. The kids had gone to school in Toronto. And, you know, we've. Seth had commuted at times to Dallas and other places as well. So, you know, they had bounced around a bit, but it was wild. Like, raising your kids in a ski town is very, very different.

[Co-host]

I. I think for anyone who doesn't know, part of the whole reason this trio is happening right now is because Meredith and I sat next to each other at the US Open, and I was asking her life story. And I think when you said you were from Chicago, I was like, are you a. I always ask people like Cubs or White Sox, and you're like, not really into like many big team sports. But I love the wwe.

[Meredith Marks]

I'm not really a sports girl in general. Like, I'm not. But I went last year to the championship game and it was the coolest experience I'd ever had in the sports world at all. And I mean, I do love sports with horses that I do actually do a little bit more. I do like horse racing or equestrian. Any of that I do love. But, you know, in terms of like watching a basketball game with these women who are insanely incredible and just like rock stars on the basketball court, it was phenomenal. It was like. It felt. It just felt good. It was like a really feel good moment. And so I am a huge supporter. I can't say I watch every game or anything because like I said, I don't watch a ton of sports. But I.

[Host]

You have a life. I get it.

[Meredith Marks]

Like, love it. I. I'm like such a fan. You have no idea.

[Host]

Oh, well. Well, thank you. We need to get you to a Fever game because they're just like so different and so much more fun compared to all these other games. But kind of with you, like, I. When it comes to Housewives, I actually watched two year seasons, which is like a lot for me because of how busy I am. It's hard for me to keep up. But I have gone down a damn rabbit hole. And, oh, my gosh, do I have so many questions for you. This is so awesome. So you. I'll get the. The Housewives and you being a complete badass. But I have got to know. And so many people are wondering, how did you get into this dj? Because I think it's awesome. But you. Bravo loves a good dj.

[Meredith Marks]

Like, honestly, it has been the most fun thing I have ever done in my life. It's like having a party every night but not really having to do all the heavy lifting and. And people are having fun. You know, that's the whole thing. It's so good just engaging with people, just literally having a good time. But it came about, really, because I was asked to DJ for Pride, and so I thought, okay, well, this will cut.

[Host]

Wait, where? Like, in Utah?

[Meredith Marks]

No, I had. At first it was Pittsburgh and then West Hollywood, and they were, like, back to back, I think, literally, like, the next day. And. And I was very nervous in Pittsburgh. Like, anyone who was at that show must have been like, oh, my gosh, she's terrified. But it was really cute. They rolled out in a bathtub, and. And then it was so fun. So cute. And then West Hollywood was huge. It was like, I don't know, maybe a couple thousand people. I'm not really sure. It looked like a lot of people, though, I can tell you that much. And I had the best time. And it was just. That's how it all started, was with Pride. I was like, okay, sure. And then the phone started ringing, and wow.

[Host]

Wow.

[Co-host]

I appreciate that because I obviously am friends with Kyle Cook, who has gotten in a lot of hot water for his late DJ career. And so you being able to do it and almost have his back, in a way, just making sure people know that you can be a DJ.

[Meredith Marks]

Honey, I've got, like, 10 years ahead. I've got, like, 10 more years on Kyle. As much as I hate to admit.

[Host]

It, well, you don't look like it at all, so I think you're doing just fine.

[Co-host]

Thank you.

[Meredith Marks]

Thank you. Yeah, no, I love it. I think Kyle's great. We had a lot of fun. We did an Amazon event together, and that was super, super fun. And, you know, I adore him, and I think he's a great dj. So I. I fully support.

[Co-host]

I was the bottle girl for you. Do you remember?

[Meredith Marks]

That's right.

[Co-host]

I brought this. Yeah, I brought the sign down that.

[Meredith Marks]

Said DJ Meredith, that was so fun.

[Host]

Oh, my gosh, it was so much fun.

[Meredith Marks]

Wasn't that a great night?

[Co-host]

What's. What's been your favorite city or, like, venue that you've DJ that thus far?

[Meredith Marks]

I mean, like, it depends. Probably Times Square, just because that's like, such an iconic place. And like, anything you do in Times Square is incredible. But it was less engaged because, you know, you are in the middle of Time Square. You got people, like, walking in and walking out, you know, and. But like any venue or West Hollywood, you definitely have people that are like, they are there, they're staying. No one's moving around. And it's great. But Time Square for sure has. It's just. It's just not something I ever thought would happen in my life. Like, if you had told me five years ago you're going to DJ in Times Square, I'd be like, you're crazy. I mean, if you had told me 20 years ago I'd live in Utah, I'd say, you're crazy. So, you know, my life has been this very bizarre roller coaster that I never anticipated.

[Co-host]

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[Host]

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[Meredith Marks]

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[Co-host]

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[Host]

I say we get into it because you're. You're an og. You're clearly a fan favorite. You're witty, you stay calm. In situations where I probably knock someone's head off, I do not know how you do it. And Wes can attest to that. Like, I'm just feisty. But I can tell you have some fire to you too. I want to get into. This is so fun. Am I even allowed to ask this? Jen Shaw just got out of prison, and I think there's so much buzz about it. People are wondering, has, like, anyone talked to her? Have you personally talked to her? Do you think she'll be back for next season? Like, what is the vibe around?

[Meredith Marks]

So I have not spoken to her since she got out. She did call me once from prison about a Year and a half ago or so. And it was a 10 minute recorded call, so it was very basic, you know, nothing all that interesting. Just sort of, how are you? And you know, whatever. But no, I've not heard from her. I'm guessing I will at some point in time. I'm sure she wants to get her affairs in order. It's been a moment, it's been a few years. So I'm sure at some point I will hear from her. I. I don't know what will happen with her coming back or not. You know, that's way out of my league. You know, it's. It's something I. I don't know. Andy seems to say no, so my guess is probably not. Then.

[Co-host]

I was going to say someone, someone asked Andy and he like, it sounded like he kind of axed it pretty quick. But. Yeah, I, maybe, but like, people love a comeback and people, I think, righting their wrongs and growing and learning and.

[Meredith Marks]

I don't know if it's true or not, but my opinion would be that he would probably be much more receptive if she had paid her restitution and he like, knew that there was a change, you know, that she had been reformed and changed and grew and there was something like a positive ending to the story. I think. My guess is he would be much more open to it, but, you know, I'm not in his brain. That's just my opinion.

[Host]

Do you guys, like, miss her? Do you like, want her to come back or do you like the vibe of the show now?

[Meredith Marks]

I, you know, that's something I can't really answer because I don't know what the vibe would be like now if she were here. Things have changed so much. Even within just, you know, those of us who have been there from the beginning, who were there with her. Our dynamics have shifted so many times by so much. Everyone has grown a lot and I'm sure she has too. You know, it's been six years and so I don't know what the dynamic would be.

[Co-host]

Damn.

[Host]

I'm sure that so much has changed, like even just like with you and everything you're doing outside of the show. Like, I'm sure, like she would be shocked to even see like, where your career has taken off. Like, I just, I just think it'd be weird in my opinion.

[Co-host]

Yeah. Who's gonna tell Jen in the next few days that Meredith is a DJ and she's in djing in Boston tonight?

[Meredith Marks]

I have a feeling she knows all that already. I think she's probably been kept, you know, apprised on an information from her family and her manager and other people around her. So I think I. She has a clue as to what's been going on.

[Co-host]

I always see videos of people in prison with like cell phones and stuff. I wonder if she's gotten to like watch the show, do you think?

[Meredith Marks]

I think probably not. I, I would think that they're not airing it there, but I don't know. I don't really know.

[Co-host]

Could you just walk into a prison and it's just salt, Salt Lake City house.

[Meredith Marks]

Could you imagine them like that she's in. Like, that would be so wild. Yeah, so wild.

[Co-host]

It would be crazy. Did you guys. You guys filmed the reunion already?

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

So that's out of the way. Do you like, personally couldn't hate anything more. Do you enjoy reunion or do you like, count down the minutes?

[Meredith Marks]

I think it really depends on the year and what's gone on this year. It was very cathartic for me. I kind of really got to say the large majority of what I wanted to say. I missed a few things. Things for sure, we always do. But I really felt like I got things off my chest and, you know, whether they err or not is not my decision. And I'm okay with that. Like, I. It's fine. For me, it was more. I just had to kind of say my piece and, and know that the ladies heard it and, you know, everyone else. And if it airs, great, if it doesn't, then say lovey, you know?

[Host]

You know, I think that is such great advice because I think everyone knows that, you know, your kids are kind of getting into this spotlight and I think that they can rely on you a lot for kind of the things to do, maybe to stay away from. But does like, what advice do you give them? Because I mean, this life can be brutal, but it can also be awesome.

[Meredith Marks]

At the same time, 100%. I mean, I always say it's like a love hate relationship. And I have a lot more love than hate. And if it ever flips to the opposite, I won't do it anymore. But, you know, the positives are off the charts. The negatives can be rough. And my main thing for them, and I think for really for anyone on any kind of reality tv, is just to really be sure to be true to yourself. There's a lot of people around you. You're talking to a lot of people. You have a lot of people, you know, saying, oh, you should do this, you should do that. Da da da, da da. You should do what you want to do and what resonates as authentic and true to yourself. Because anything that you do because somebody told you to do it or because you think it's going to make good TV or because somebody else on another show did it and the audience loved them or whatever is not going to work and you're going to regret it.

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[Meredith Marks]

I mean, he kind of helped put it together. So it wasn't like he came in all of a sudden like, I have a surprise for you. You know, they reached out. He had been very much an integral part of putting the show together. And so, no, it was kind of brewing for a long time. A very long time. They took a really long time to figure out the right mix and get everyone on board and the whole thing. And I think they did a phenomenal job. I think the cast is absolutely amazing and both on screen and off, I think they're really, truly great people. And I'm very proud of all of them. I feel like the mama bear, I.

[Co-host]

Was gonna say at the Bravo Awards or whatever. I presented the rookie of the year award and it was to their whole cast. Their whole cast.

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Rookie of the year. So they crushed. Yeah.

[Host]

Well, I think. I think that was kind of my. My thing. It's really cool to like hear that those people like spending time off the camera together and like, they're good people off camera. Do you guys feel like that's how you guys are out in Salt Lake? Like, do you have even the time to spend time to go to dinner, get coffee, hang out? Or like, is it really just like in season you're doing this and then out of season you're busy as heck?

[Meredith Marks]

You don't have time varies year to year. You know, all of us have different things going on at different times. And like, this year has been insanely busy for me. And last year it was like that for Lisa, you know, like she was running around like a crazy person. And that's, you know, what I have this year. And so everyone kinds of ebbs and flows and because I, you know, really only live in Park City about five months out of the year, I'm gone a lot.

[Host]

Don't you kind of love that? Like, I like. Because I'm telling you, like, for the w. I love my time with them. And the majority of time I could hang out with them year round. But there are people in our league that I'm like, I need a break from you, and I don't want to see you till next season. Like, don't text, don't talk.

[Meredith Marks]

That's why I travel as much as I do, you know, Like, I mean, I don't want. I don't need to spend that much time with anybody except my. My family, my husband and kids. I mean, my, you know, my sister. Like, my family I could be with all the time, but even they can get on my nerves sometimes. I love them dearly, but.

[Host]

That's why you're DJing.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

Get another.

[Co-host]

I will say, with reality TV and, like, the cast you have, it does feel like. And I think my show is a show where, like, I think the reason people like it is because they can tell that we all do, like, really, really, really like each other. But even in, like, this environment where, like, every aspect of your friendships and who you're with, doing what, it's, like, so heavy and talked about and, like, so much, like, such a big deal at all times that, like, when you're not filming, it is refreshing to, like, kind of take a second to yourself. And, like, when you're with each other, it's so intense during those filming months that, like, when it's over, taking a step back is, like, it's not, like, offensive to anyone. Like, everyone just takes their time to kind of, like, figure themselves out and then, like, you know, you film again and bring it back together.

[Meredith Marks]

I think that's. I mean, I think taking a moment yourself is normal. You know, I think that it's healthy normal, you know, like, I mean, these last. Like, when we ended in Greece, I stayed and I didn't go home for about a month. Yeah, I took a month in Europe after.

[Host]

Oh, my God.

[Meredith Marks]

Nobody came and met me. Like, a day or two later, we. We had a wedding. A few weeks later, the English countryside. Anyway, so, I mean, he was planning on going maybe a week later, but I called him. I'm like, this was rough. Come now.

[Host]

Oh, good for you. I was about to say, you're better than me. I'd be like, give me a week and a half to myself, then come and hang out with me. But I feel you on that as.

[Co-host]

Someone who is very proud of where they're from. And I feel like I'm an obnoxious tour guide when people visit Missouri or Montana. I related to Angie K. Being, like, so over the top about everything. Greece, because she's proud and just wants Everyone to love Greece or whatever. I found that so endearing and cute because, you know, people don't care as much as you, but you still give it a shot. And I just found her Greek pride to be something I kind of like, saw in myself.

[Meredith Marks]

There's something coming up where, you know, we learn a lot more about her family, and I don't think it aired yet. Right. Yeah, no, it's in your. Yeah, but it's coming and we learn a lot more about her family. And for me, that was really very helpful to get insight into her as a person, you know, and it was honestly my favorite part of the trip because, you know, I learned more about Greece. It was a beautiful setting, everything else and. But I also really had a. Got a much better understanding of her and her family and where they came from, and I just thought it was really cool.

[Co-host]

Yeah. I love pat Sophie at BravoCon, everyone just kind of mingles and it's like all over the place. I have to say on the record that the Salt Lake City women are like, are the queen bees everywhere you walk. Everyone wants to take pictures. Every, like, center table at the award ceremonies, like always, stars of the show. And Meredith, I don't think I've said this to you yet, but, like, your cat, like, people, like, are so infatuated with you guys, and every single one of you are like, so uniquely themselves and, like, powerful. And I just am. As someone who, like, doesn't watch every Housewives show, I. You guys are like such a dynamite cast, and I think everyone knows that, but it was so crazy.

[Host]

Meredith is over sitting. She's sitting over there. Like, we know, like, you're not telling us anything. We don't know.

[Meredith Marks]

You know, we never know what's going to, like, work or not work. You know, we just do our thing and cross our fingers and hope for the best, you know?

[Host]

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[Co-host]

Yeah, she's. She's about to order your jewelry for everyone for Christmas. Oh, I didn't say that.

[Host]

But I was gonna say I absolutely love, love, love, love your jewelry. I want to hear about your caviar. I want to hear about your bath bombs. Like, tell us about this stuff because I like, I said I'm like new to all this, but so many people are like, oh my God, ask about her jewelry, how that all started. I'm like, hell yeah, let's hear it.

[Meredith Marks]

Because it's beautiful. Thank you. I started my j. What are we going on now? I think we're on. We're almost on our 20th year, but not quite. I think it's 18. I have to double check. No, yeah, 2008. So 20. 28 will be 20 years. We're almost there. And it was kind of crazy because I had been in real estate development and I owned kind of like an alternative health club. Like, we specialized in pilates and gyrotonics and yog, stuff like that. And.

[Host]

I started pilates and hot yoga this week. And it is kicking my ass.

[Meredith Marks]

Right, because you have like, muscles you never knew you had.

[Co-host]

Get this right?

[Host]

Oh, my gosh. Sorry not to cut you off. That is like, it is so, so good. Like, I'm starting to become like addicted, obsessed.

[Meredith Marks]

Amazing. And so I had had this gym and One morning at 9am I dropped my oldest son, Reed, who you guys don't really get to see very often off at school and went to some meeting in the school after and got very aggressively mugged at 9am in broad daylight on a very safe street in Chicago. Walking home, I was like dragged across the street. It was bad and what, what, why.

[Host]

Does no one know this?

[Co-host]

Do people know the story?

[Meredith Marks]

I don't talk about it all that often. You know, I don't know. It was really, it was insane. The guy was dragging me across the street by my handbag because I wouldn't let go, not because I meant to not let go. It was like the, you know, the fear. You brace yourself and you're not thinking, you know. And so he's dragging my whole body. But a taxi driver stopped and started chasing him. He went to prison for three years for aggravated battery.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Oh. So we got him.

[Meredith Marks]

We found, we found him as well.

[Host]

Him and Jim were talking about you in prison.

[Meredith Marks]

No, different prisons. He was in state. He was in state.

[Co-host]

Oh man.

[Meredith Marks]

But I should not be saying this.

[Host]

I don't even know Jim like that.

[Meredith Marks]

No, but she was, she was working with Ghislaine Maxwell and Elizabeth Holmes, though they served in the same prison as her, which is wild. Like a story. For sure. I'm. I'm very curious to hear about that. But in any case, so I was, I decided in that moment that I was, I didn't want to be in real estate, that I. It was dragging me like away from my kids too much. And I sold everything in as is condition, like just dumped it all. And then the real estate market crashed like a year later. You know, it was like the whole mortgage backed security debacle, the whole. It was a disaster. So I would have been in a lot of financial trouble and I got saved by getting mugged somehow. I don't know. And that was at the same time I said to Seth, I don't know what I really want to do now. And I was trying to figure it out. And he said, well, I'm going on this business trip to India and Hong Kong. I said, you know, a lot of the really fabulous gemstones come out of the India and Hong Kong's a major trading center for it as well. I think I'm going to tag along. And I've started a jewelry collection. And my mother called me screaming. She's like, we are in the worst recession of my lifetime and you're starting a luxury business. And I said, yeah, I am. And I did.

[Co-host]

And she wouldn't be your mom, she wouldn't be your mom if she didn't do that.

[Meredith Marks]

No, I appreciate it. You need that. We all need that. We all need people to tell us not to do it so that you fight harder for it, you know. And I did. And that was it. I basically went, I got a Lot of manufacturing contacts, a lot of contacts for loose stones. I studied at the Gemological Institute of America to learn a little bit, and I just dove in head first and that was it. And I loved it ever since. Jewelry, it's my passion, you know, and from there, when I got on the show, I really wanted to figure out something consumable that also sits in the luxury space. And Caviar was another passion. So we kind of ran there and.

[Co-host]

You know, caviar's having a. Caviar's having a moment right now.

[Meredith Marks]

One I would say. It's everywhere. It's everywhere. But it's great. I'm thrilled.

[Co-host]

Wait, random question. Do you not, like, take offense, but do you, like, you guys are called had the Housewives or Housewives Salt Lake, whatever. But everyone is. I mean, at least. At least you are so much more than a housewife. It's almost like such an outdated name. Like, they're never going to change the name of the show, but, like, you guys are all entrepreneurs or. And business owners and like, you were in real estate. Like, does that name bug, like, when people say Meredith's a housewife? Do you take offense to that? Anyway?

[Meredith Marks]

I don't take offense to it, but I. I don't want to be pigeonholed into that being the whole essence of my being. Like, you're saying I like things to be shown in a broader pict. And I really think that's true of the large majority of the women on my show. Maybe not on all of the shows, but at least on mine. I think we all kind of, you know, feel that way. And that's why, like, people were like, oh, she removed rho SLC out of her bio. She's not coming back. It wasn't there. The only change I made this season was I added water bender, so. Because I just think everyone. Everybody knows.

[Host]

So stop giving her the shit. Everybody, leave her alone.

[Meredith Marks]

Everybody knows I'm on Housewives. I don't need to scream that out from the rafters. It's the other stuff that I need to make sure people know everybody knows I'm on it. Like, that's. It's already a defining thing. So I want to make sure I'm highlighting other aspects of my life, like being a water bender. It's very important.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Hell, yeah. Did you always know you were. Had that, like, entrepreneur spirit in you, like, even when you were doing real estate? Or did you kind of learn to appreciate that process, like, when you started, like, getting into everything?

[Meredith Marks]

Well, even real estate? I mean, I was in development. I mean, that's pretty entrepreneurial. I was buying homes, renovating them, selling them, building them, new on, you know, empty lots, stuff like that. So I've always had a drive for different entrepreneurial things. I, I kind of, like, can't help myself. I just like to keep creating and building and growing and it's. It's almost like a disease, you know, and that's. And then, you know, it's fun.

[Host]

I think it's inspiring. No, I really do, because I. I will say, like, when the whole Bravo. Like you guys and this is a good thing, you guys have a good cult, you guys have a great following. Like, do not get me wrong, but when I was like going down my rabbit hole, you know, I learned that there is so much about you and there's so much. There's so much about your cast members. And I was like, like getting inspired. I'm like, damn. Like, these women, like, yeah, I know they film, but they have so much more, like, stuff to them that people should really start. Don't just judge them off a little clip here and there. Like, go and see what these women are about. And so, like, I, I'm not kidding. I was like, I think I love it. I was like, I don't know her, but I think I, like, love her.

[Meredith Marks]

Thank you. Right back at you. You know, I. I mean, I have to say, look, my cast love her. Hate them. You know, some I love a lot more than others, but they, they really do.

[Co-host]

All.

[Meredith Marks]

For the most part. Not all. Most. We have very. And you know, they're very interesting outside of the show and have stuff going on and are trying to, you know, do very interesting things. And I think it's cool. You know, I respect it.

[Host]

Wait, does. Does that ever annoy you guys, though? Does that ever annoy you that, like, you can't. The show doesn't highlight everything you guys are about and like, what you're doing. It sometimes gets kind of like the bad or like the sassy caddy type stuff rather than like all the great things you're doing.

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah, there are, of course, there are times in a vary season to season, you know, like this year, all we're seeing about me is not very positive, you know, like, we didn't see anything with me and Seth and, you know, it's like the first year that he's actually been fully remote in decades where he's with me 24 7. And would I have liked to showcase that? Yes, of course. But for whatever reason, it didn't you know, work. And that's the nature of reality tv. Yeah. You're seeing snippets of our lives and you're not going to see the whole story or the whole picture because quite frankly, that's what makes it entertaining is, you know, by the way, I know everyone wants this footage from the plane, but if we actually had it, the story would be a lot less interesting. Let's be real.

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[Meredith Marks]

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[Meredith Marks]

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[Meredith Marks]

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[Meredith Marks]

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[Host]

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[Meredith Marks]

Well, let me say this. I can promise you, if I was screaming, dumping wine and pulling hair, there would have been video footage and there I would have been an unruly passenger and face some pretty serious consequences. I'm not saying nothing happened. Some people do. What they're saying happened is not what happened.

[Co-host]

When people are crazy on planes, everyone has their phone out. You don't ever see, like, it not go anywhere. When people are weird on planes, everyone fails.

[Meredith Marks]

Absolutely.

[Co-host]

Absolutely everyone films.

[Host]

So, like, did you ever finish the movie? Did you ever go back and see, like, how that movie ended?

[Meredith Marks]

I haven't watched the movie, like, before, and I just. I fell asleep in it. And honestly, for me, movies, I don't get that engrossed in them, you know, I kind of am halfway watching. I'm halfway scrolling on my phone, answering emails, answering text messages. It's. For me, on the plane, the movies are like something to have in my ear to just distract from whatever else is going on on the plane.

[Co-host]

Yeah, it's like a background noise.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Some people can't go to sleep without their TV on.

[Meredith Marks]

That is true. I'm. I'm not one of them. But you know what I do actually like on my phone when I'm trying to sleep is the airplane noise. I play that on my phone. Just kind of bizarre, isn't it?

[Co-host]

Is that just like. Is that just like brown noise or is it its own? Is that it's calm. Genre of airplane.

[Meredith Marks]

I don't know that, but I like it. I actually, contrary to what everyone thinks I am, I am not a nervous traveler. I'm actually an excellent traveler. I love flying. It's my peaceful time. It's my time to myself. Maybe not particularly on that flight as much, but generally speaking, it is a very, like, Zen time for me. I love it. You know, I kind of, like, get work done and I love it. I can't see.

[Co-host]

This says Airplane cabin white noise is a full playlist. And all these songs are just Airplane cabin white Noise.

[Meredith Marks]

That's amazing.

[Co-host]

That's funny.

[Meredith Marks]

It's so good.

[Host]

That's actually hilarious.

[Co-host]

Are you as particular when you fly.

[Meredith Marks]

As Lisa in terms of what. In terms of not flying in 17C?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Just needing to be in. Doesn't she have one seat that she, like, has to be on for every.

[Meredith Marks]

Time she's on a boat? She does have a seat preference, for sure. She. She actually likes an aisle. I like a window, so that works. Well. I. I like.

[Host]

I.

[Meredith Marks]

My favorite seat is the bulkhead window, you know, front row window, because there's enough room where you can easily climb out if someone's sleeping. And there's, you know, but no one's bothering me to get out, so I like it. That's my favorite seat.

[Co-host]

I think it would be fun to just, like, travel with everyone, you know?

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, try it. You might change your mind.

[Host]

She's like, don't do it. Don't ever do it. Dude, that is hilarious.

[Meredith Marks]

The trips can be so amazing, and they can also be so rough, you.

[Co-host]

Know, I'm sure because you can't go anywhere.

[Host]

Well, yeah. How long do they normally last? Is it just, like, a weekend? Is it a couple days?

[Meredith Marks]

This was four days, and that's four nights. So really, five days. That's long. Like, that's long. You know, that's the longest trip I think we've ever been on, so. But, like, usually, like, we have. Well, this year we had the RV trip, which was early on, you know, so usually what you'll do is you'll have, like, one or two little short trips that are a night or maybe two nights, and then you'll have a bigger trip. That's three or four.

[Co-host]

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[Meredith Marks]

I would lobby for you. Absolutely. Absolutely amazing. Okay.

[Co-host]

That's all I needed. She does. She does have absolutely nutty outfits, and they all are. Are pretty sick. I actually got to meet her the, like, second to last night, and she's like, she's on at all times. She was, like, fun. Just. We all were. It was. Everyone was cozy in a bar wearing hoodies after four days of makeup, and I got to know her a little bit.

[Host]

Do you guys have, like, do the housewives all have, like, a stylist and whatnot, or do you guys just do your own thing?

[Meredith Marks]

I think everybody, big things works with from time to time. And I think it varies how, you know, I think it just depends, you know, it's. It's a lot of clothing, both, like, on the show and in real life, you know, I mean, I don't. I can't speak for everyone else, but I go to a ton of events, you know, and that right there is a ton of stuff.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Meredith Marks]

Sometimes I'll style myself. Sometimes I have a handful of stylists I'll hire. Sometimes I have my kids help me. It just totally depends on what it is and what I need and how much time I have on my hands. I love to do it when I have the time, but sometimes you just literally have no time.

[Co-host]

Right.

[Host]

So you do love that.

[Meredith Marks]

Like, that's a. I love fashion. I love clothes. I love accessories. I obviously love jewelry. You know, it's. It's a lot of fun for me. But there. It can get overwhelming at times. It can be just way too much.

[Host]

I just don't like the going out and shopping piece. Like, I don't have time. I love it, but I don't have time to, like. Like, go do it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host]

Well, yeah. I mean, I. I think sometimes people think or, like, want to discredit you for if you use a stylist, given that it's, like, not a look you put together. But for most people, I think it's the convenience of not having to, like, actually think about it and put the time together to create this stuff. Wouldn't you say, Meredith, that, like, half of the point of BravoCon is, like, what people are wearing?

[Meredith Marks]

I think it's just like.

[Co-host]

Like, that's like the whole.

[Meredith Marks]

I think everyone wants to see what you're wearing, how you look, what you look like in real life. You know, do you look as good as you look on tv? Do you look worse? Do you look better? You know? And then they all express a lot of love, which is amazing.

[Host]

I will say I use a stylus for, like, half of my tunnel fits, and I have no shame in that. Like, I. I think that the people who go to school and know that type of stuff for that, why would I not use them? And I also don't have your guys's talent, though. Like, I feel like you guys are all very, like, artsy and just, like, are very in touch with that side of, like, what looks good on you, and I just don't have the time for it. So I'm like, you guys go pick out my clothes. I'll wear it. Here's your check. See you later.

[Co-host]

Do you do an outfit? Like, do you have an outfit plan for every tunnel walk, like, or does it just sometimes?

[Host]

I think the majority of my tunnel fits. I do. But you can 100 tell when I did not use them because I will be wearing this. Yes.

[Co-host]

Yes.

[Host]

Shorts and a T shirt. Yeah.

[Co-host]

Literally. We gotta get Brooks. Get you Brooks.

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah. Tracksuits.

[Co-host]

That can actually be.

[Meredith Marks]

So he just dropped his new collection. I bought, like, everything. It's fabulous. So, yes, we need to do that.

[Host]

Wait, tell me, what is Lone.

[Co-host]

Who is Lone Wolf?

[Meredith Marks]

Fresh Wolf. It's. It's Lisa. It's.

[Co-host]

It's not Lone Wolf.

[Meredith Marks]

It's Jack and Henry Barlow's hair care. Men's grooming company. Yeah.

[Co-host]

Okay. I knew someone.

[Host]

Wait, tell me more about the clothing line. Is it, like. Is it men, women?

[Meredith Marks]

So he launched it with his original tracksuit, which, you know, had like the Brooks Marks going down the side. But now he has a new collection that's in this fabric that he, he I think has a some kind of IP on called Terry Light. And it's like this lightweight Terry that has given it and it's very like luxe and comfy and gorgeous. And so he did hoodies, zip ups pants, shorts, and then these matching totes that are really cute too and four different colorways and it's fab. We gotta get you guys some. It's really fab.

[Host]

I'm looking it up right now as you speak.

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah, it's amazing.

[Co-host]

Hell yeah.

[Host]

Oh yeah. Wait. These are super cool.

[Meredith Marks]

These are really, really cool. I love it. And it's like just chic and comfortable and I don't know. I was Wes when you were like, oh, we were all in, in our hoodies at night like a couple nights before the end of bar. I was like, why did I have a night like that? I was dressed all day and all night every day.

[Co-host]

Well, it's crazy that sometimes people were cut or like you just by how things schedule. You could be done at like 2:30pm and some people were doing stuff till midnight. And if you, you know, if all of your breaks came like in the middle, then you were there for you know, a hundred hours a day. I got, I was done at like one the last day and I went and showered and put on sweatpants and like ordered. I think I ordered pizza and then just went and had beers downstairs. But some people, some people didn't get that.

[Meredith Marks]

No. I watched what happens live last night, so I definitely was going to the tail end.

[Co-host]

Oh yeah, you sing.

[Meredith Marks]

Oh gosh.

[Co-host]

Wait, I have to ask. How is singing with Jessie?

[Meredith Marks]

Jesse's wonderful. The singing part for me was not my forte. When I saw I was supposed to sing on that, I kind of went a little like, I got a little panicked and then I just said, forget it, I don't care, I'm just doing it and I'll just be bad and it doesn't matter that it's bad. People can like me and I'll laugh right along with them. And it was, it was fine.

[Co-host]

So they booked you to sing.

[Meredith Marks]

And I just, it was, it was in an email that had a lot of information and I just happened to miss that little snippet until Jesse mentioned it to me like the day before and I was like, oh gosh, no, they didn't lie to me. It was my own fault. Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. That is hilarious. Wait.

[Co-host]

Well, it was fun.

[Host]

Yeah. Wait I want to know because we'll. We'll let you go here in a second. But where, like, are you already booked for, like, DJing for, like, the next couple months? Because I feel like me and Wes should go to it.

[Meredith Marks]

Oh, my gosh. Yes. Absolutely. Let me know when we actually have my tour schedule. So I have tonight and tomorrow night out of Boston, and then I have Chicago for Saturday and Sunday, Puerto Vallarta for New Year's Eve and New Year's Day, and then I start up again in mid January, and my schedule is on my Instagram. And you guys can tell me whatever show you want to go to. If you're. If we're sold out, we will get you in no matter what. Just let me know what you want to go to. Yeah, yeah. It will be so fun. I would love it.

[Host]

Wow.

[Meredith Marks]

Maybe I'll get you guys to come out on stage for, like, a shot or something.

[Host]

Say less.

[Co-host]

That's incredible.

[Meredith Marks]

Yes. Yes. I would love it. That would be amazing.

[Co-host]

We have to let you go. But this was such a fun, special treat, and I'm honored that you.

[Meredith Marks]

Oh, my gosh. This is so fun.

[Host]

Meredith, you are a gym.

[Meredith Marks]

You guys, I love you.

[Host]

Like, you're an actor.

[Meredith Marks]

You guys are fabulous, and I can't wait to come see a game. And, Wes, I'll see you hopefully at another round of the US Open and some other fabulous parties.

[Host]

I love it. I love it.

[Co-host]

Thank you.

[Meredith Marks]

Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Sending you lots of love, of course.

[Host]

Bye.

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