A Raising Helen Reunion with Abigail & Spencer Breslin

Summary

Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson: A Raising Helen Reunion with Abigail & Spencer Breslin

Released on June 9, 2025 by iHeartPodcasts

Introduction

In this heartfelt episode of Sibling Revelry, hosts Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson welcome guests Abigail Breslin and Spencer Breslin for a reunion discussion centered around their shared experiences working together on the iconic film Raising Helen. The conversation delves deep into their sibling bond, childhood in New York, early acting careers, personal challenges, and individual growth over the years.

Early Lives and Birthplaces

Abigail and Spencer begin by sharing their birthplaces and early family dynamics. Both siblings were born in New York City, with Abigail at NYU Hospital and Spencer at Beth Israel. Oliver Hudson adds a nostalgic touch by comparing Spencer's birthplace to the iconic building from the TV show Friends.

• Spencer Breslin: "We were born in New York... My mom went to all the different hospitals for all three of us." ([04:05])

Childhood in New York and Early Acting Careers

Growing up in the bustling environment of New York City, the siblings recount their upbringing and introduction to acting. Spencer shares his early start in commercials at the age of three, highlighting how talent scouts frequented local playgrounds to discover the next big child star.

• Spencer Breslin: "I started doing commercials just... an indoor playground in Manhattan... talent scouts would approach parents and say, 'Oh, your child is really adorable.'" ([07:26])

Abigail reminisces about working on the set of Scream Queens with Kate Hudson, humorously noting her own lack of abs during filming.

• Kate Hudson: "I don't have any abs on Scream Queens. That was quite the set." ([03:22])

Working Together on Movies

Their collaboration on Raising Helen marked a significant moment in their careers and sibling relationship. The siblings discuss memorable moments from the set, including challenges faced by Spencer during filming and the supportive role Kate played when he was ill.

• Oliver Hudson: "We did a lot in LA and New York. I remember Kate took Spencer to FAO Schwartz when he was sick." ([10:14])

Abigail fondly recalls Spencer’s dedication to his role, particularly a scene where he had to handle a dramatic moment with a Singapore Sling drink order.

• Abigail Breslin: "Spencer was so committed, even when he was sick, he made sure he did a good job." ([09:12])

Experiences of Recognition and Socialization

The group discusses the duality of fame and childhood. While Spencer enjoyed being on set and thriving in commercials, Oliver shares unsettling encounters with overly enthusiastic fans that made his youth challenging.

• Oliver Hudson: "People would literally pick me up and say things like 'Your movie changed my life.'" ([29:46])

Spencer contrasts this with experiences like getting an autograph at an Outback Steakhouse while managing the pressures of fame.

• Spencer Breslin: "I had someone ask for an autograph while I was at the urinal at Outback Steakhouse. I was like, 'Can you wait until my hands are free?'" ([30:11])

Sobriety Journey of Spencer Breslin

A pivotal moment in the episode is Spencer’s candid discussion about his struggles with alcohol and his path to sobriety. He opens up about the reasons that led him to seek help, including the passing of his father, and the transformative impact sobriety has had on his life.

• Spencer Breslin: "I was drinking about two bottles of vodka a day... Cutting that out gave me a boost in mental fitness." ([39:05])

He describes the challenges he faced, such as disrupted sleep patterns and emotional roller coasters, but emphasizes the positive changes, including improved mental clarity and healthier relationships.

• Spencer Breslin: "My life's gotten a lot better. I don't need to wake up feeling miserable or worry about the things I did last night." ([33:17])

Oliver Hudson expresses pride and relief over Spencer’s progress, highlighting the supportive family dynamic.

• Oliver Hudson: "He's been such a badass in his journey. We're very proud of him." ([34:18])

Music Careers of Spencer and Oliver Hudson

Transitioning from acting, Spencer and Oliver share their passion for music. Spencer talks about his early days playing in bands and his current endeavors, while Oliver discusses his own musical projects under the artist name "Sophomore."

• Spencer Breslin: "I started playing in dumb bands when I was 13, doing punk covers and original songs." ([45:03])

• Oliver Hudson: "I'm working on my album and releasing music on Spotify under the name Sophomore." ([44:57])

Abigail expresses excitement about their musical pursuits, encouraging listeners to support their work.

• Abigail Breslin: "I love hearing that you guys are doing this. I'm gonna listen immediately." ([47:31])

Relationship Insights

The episode concludes with a thoughtful segment where the siblings reflect on each other’s strengths and areas for growth. They share what they admire about one another and touch upon ways they wish to support each other further.

• Oliver Hudson: "I wish I had Spencer's resilience... and I wish he could see how amazing he already is." ([48:40])

• Spencer Breslin: "Abby is great at bringing people together and hosting good parties." ([49:16])

They also share light-hearted moments, recalling funny scenes from their past projects, such as struggles with particular lines in Scream Queens.

• Spencer Breslin: "You couldn’t not say 'macabre' on cue." ([50:24])

Conclusion

This reunion episode of Sibling Revelry offers an intimate glimpse into the lives of the Hudson and Breslin siblings. From navigating early fame and family dynamics to overcoming personal challenges and pursuing creative passions, their conversation underscores the enduring strength of sibling bonds and the journey toward self-improvement and fulfillment.

Notable Quotes

• Spencer Breslin ([07:26]): "Talent scouts would approach parents and say, 'Oh, your child is really adorable.'"

• Kate Hudson ([03:22]): "I don't have any abs on Scream Queens. That was quite the set."

• Spencer Breslin ([39:05]): "I was drinking about two bottles of vodka a day... Cutting that out gave me a boost in mental fitness."

• Oliver Hudson ([34:18]): "He's been such a badass in his journey. We're very proud of him."

• Spencer Breslin ([48:40]): "Abby is great at bringing people together and hosting good parties."

Final Thoughts

For listeners who haven’t tuned into this episode, Sibling Revelry delivers a compelling narrative of growth, resilience, and the unbreakable bonds of family. The authentic dialogue and shared experiences make this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in the dynamics of sibling relationships and the personal journeys that shape us.

Transcript

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[Oliver Hudson]

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[Kate Hudson]

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[Kate Hudson]

Hi, I'm Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

[Abigail Breslin]

We wanted to do something that highlighted.

[Kate Hudson]

Our relationship and what it's like to be siblings.

[Spencer Hudson]

We are.

[Tom Yamas]

A sibling rivalry.

[Abigail Breslin]

No, no.

[Tom Yamas]

Sibling rivalry.

[Abigail Breslin]

Don't do that with your mouth.

[Tom Yamas]

Sibling revelry.

[Abigail Breslin]

That's good.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

I worked with abs.

[Kate Hudson]

That's what I call her because I don't have any abs on Scream Queens. That was quite.

[Abigail Breslin]

Oh, yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

Set.

[Abigail Breslin]

That's right.

[Kate Hudson]

Quite the set. Yeah. Yeah. I was the old man on that set.

[Abigail Breslin]

You were with Jamie.

[Kate Hudson]

Jamie Lee. But it was a bunch of youngins and me and Jamie Lee, you know, I. I tried to be cool and young and hip, and it didn't work. So I just stayed in my place in North. In New Orleans. And didn't. Didn't integrate very well.

[Abigail Breslin]

No.

[Kate Hudson]

Anyway, let's bring them in there. They've been waiting in the. Waiting.

[Abigail Breslin]

Okay.

[Spencer Hudson]

Hi, guys. You doing?

[Abigail Breslin]

How are you guys?

[Oliver Hudson]

We're. We're doing good.

[Spencer Hudson]

We're good.

[Abigail Breslin]

Well, let's just jump right. Right in.

[Oliver Hudson]

Okay.

[Abigail Breslin]

So where were you guys born?

[Spencer Hudson]

New York. Yeah. New York.

[Abigail Breslin]

Like New York City?

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah. And NYU Hospital.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, I. I was Beth Israel, but yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, you were.

[Oliver Hudson]

But I always think about it because in friends, like when Phoebe gives birth and friends that, like, kind of roundish building, that's where I was born in.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

So I feel very happy about that. My mom really went to all the different hospitals for all three of us. I feel like.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, as I said, there's another sibling.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yes. Yes.

[Abigail Breslin]

What's your other sibling's name?

[Spencer Hudson]

Ryan.

[Abigail Breslin]

How old is Ryan?

[Oliver Hudson]

He just turned 40.

[Spencer Hudson]

Just turned 40 like, two days ago.

[Kate Hudson]

So. Yeah. What's the order here, Ryan?

[Spencer Hudson]

I'm in the middle. Is the youngest baby. Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

Oh, my God. And she was a little baby when we worked together, and she was.

[Oliver Hudson]

I know.

[Abigail Breslin]

You were so cute.

[Spencer Hudson]

Stop.

[Kate Hudson]

I'm almost 49.

[Abigail Breslin]

Oh, my God.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oliver. When we worked together, I was like, 19.

[Kate Hudson]

I know. That's crazy.

[Abigail Breslin]

Oh, my God. That was 10 years ago.

[Kate Hudson]

Was that 10 years ago?

[Abigail Breslin]

That's even weirder.

[Kate Hudson]

Queens, 10 years ago?

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, I can't even. That's insane.

[Spencer Hudson]

And raising Helen was 22 years ago.

[Abigail Breslin]

22 years ago.

[Spencer Hudson]

Pretty nuts.

[Kate Hudson]

What was it like?

[Oliver Hudson]

What?

[Kate Hudson]

What was. What was it like growing up in the city? I mean, were you allowed the freedom to roam and explore or was it strict or.

[Spencer Hudson]

I, I mean, I, I, I don't know. I guess about the. I, I don't know. It's just. What do you think?

[Oliver Hudson]

We have like a kind of like a, a block radius of where we could.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah. I mean, when I turned, when I turned like 13, 14, I started going off on my own, doing stuff and, you know, hanging out with friends and playing in bands and stuff like that. But before that, you know, we, we weren't like just like wandering around the city like totally unaccompanied.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. That didn't happen until I was like 16, 17 when I started doing that. But yeah, we, but what I liked about growing up in New York, I.

[Spencer Hudson]

Was younger because I'm a boy, so I got earlier.

[Oliver Hudson]

It's not safe for the women.

[Spencer Hudson]

Exactly. Ye, exactly.

[Oliver Hudson]

Wilderness.

[Spencer Hudson]

I was able to fend for myself.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

I, I was more so. But we were also. Because we were acting, we were traveling.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

So much so we weren't really in New York for massive amounts of time.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah. On the road a fair amount. Yeah. Like a lot of. In la. Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

Spencer, weren't you already working like when you were little doing. Didn't you.

[Spencer Hudson]

I started doing like commercials and stuff when I was three. Yeah. I started off. My first one was. My first two were like a Life cereal commercial and a McDonald's commercial with Charles Barkley. And then. Yeah. Then it just kind of went from there.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, it was cool.

[Oliver Hudson]

I thought it was Burger King for some reason. That's why I was trying to go.

[Spencer Hudson]

It was a Mickey D's commercial. Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

So wait, so this was obviously. I mean, you're three years old, so you're not making many life choices. Did your parents sort of say, look, we're going to get you guys into commercials and, and put you into that.

[Spencer Hudson]

So there it, the, the origin story or whatever was. It's. I always laugh at this now because it seems like so weird now as an adult, but when, when I was like in that eight, when I was like three, four, there was this like indoor playground in Manhattan that I used to go to. And it's funny now. Like they used to send like talent scouts out to like the playgrounds to be like, oh, cute kid. Really weird. Kind of like, oh, that kid's really adorable. Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Like you just like somebody goes up to like the parent and it's like, I think your child is beautiful.

[Kate Hudson]

That's so true.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah, you're pretty hot.

[Kate Hudson]

Why don't you come with me?

[Spencer Hudson]

Hot kid. No. So It's. Yeah. So then I started doing commercials. Just. I had a good time doing them, I guess, and then kind of. Kind of. Yeah. Where I was discovered. Yeah. No. Yeah. So.

[Kate Hudson]

But Ryan. Ryan didn't have. Didn't have what it took, huh?

[Spencer Hudson]

Just zero interest. Zero interest. He doesn't want to be in front of the camera. I think he did do, like, a cameo in Raising Helen. I think him and his buddies.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, yeah. When we're like.

[Spencer Hudson]

They're supposed to play. They're supposed to play, like, I think, like, CD kids in a playground or something like that. Like the. Like the bad element or whatever.

[Abigail Breslin]

I don't even remember that.

[Spencer Hudson]

Well, Gary, like, anyone who showed up to set, Gary would just be like, oh, you want to do a part in the movie?

[Abigail Breslin]

Oh, my God. Remember when he. I'll never forget when you were ordering the drink, when he was just yelling out 500 million different drink orders, like, get a banger.

[Spencer Hudson]

Singapore Sling.

[Abigail Breslin]

Tell him that was my favorite. Tell them you want a Singapore Sleep Sling.

[Oliver Hudson]

I. I always. I did a movie with Gary also after I. We both did Princess Diaries, too.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

After Raising Helen. And then I did New Year's Eve with G. And I'll never forget, he called my mom before, because in. In New Year's Eve, I was, like, 14 years old. And it's like, we. Me and this other boy that was in the movie, we have a kiss, you know, and he said to my mom, like, I don't want it to be lewd.

[Abigail Breslin]

He was the best.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yes, the best.

[Oliver Hudson]

He was the best. That was such a fun movie because we did a lot in LA and we did a lot in New York. And I remember, Kate, you, like, were so cool because when we wrapped, I was very sick that day.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah, she was barfing. Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, that's lovely.

[Oliver Hudson]

Thank you. I was speaking everywhere, but you took Spencer to FAO Schwartz. And I remember him being like, I didn't care that I was sick because I wasn't doing a good job in the film that was six years old. I care because I was like, damn. Oh, Spencer's going to. Kate, wait.

[Kate Hudson]

Kate, you took Spencer to FAO Schwartz?

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was great. It was great.

[Kate Hudson]

Wait, just the two of you?

[Abigail Breslin]

Well, like, it was. Well, who else was with us? No, it was me.

[Spencer Hudson]

I think my mom was there, and there was someone else who was there.

[Abigail Breslin]

And, like, my assistant or whoever.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah, I think so.

[Abigail Breslin]

It's just a couple of us.

[Spencer Hudson]

I remember when Abby was all sick and Gary came up to, like, the room and was like, have you tried like saltine crackers?

[Abigail Breslin]

Abigail, I'll take you to Fhworth again.

[Oliver Hudson]

We can down now, but one weekend. American Girl doll store.

[Abigail Breslin]

Exactly. I remember this is such a great. There's this scene where I'm teaching her. I'm teaching her how to. She's. She's trying to tie her shoes and I come into the room and she's just like, you know, crying because the last time she was learning how to tie her shoes, it was with her mom and I. Oh my God, I could not get through this scene. Abigail could make herself cry. She. I mean she is six years old, she's wanni's age.

[Kate Hudson]

Crazy.

[Abigail Breslin]

And she. You are accessing something that was so like pure and incredible. And everybody was just like, oh my God. It was just heart wrenching. I'll never forget it. And you're sitting in that little.

[Kate Hudson]

Let me ask you a question. Actually this is interesting because at six years old, I don't know, I'm sure you have recollection of it, but how are you able to do that? Meaning even you. And then moving into sort of other children, watching some of these kids, being able to access emotion and make it so real, you know, how. Do you remember how you did that? Where you went at six to be able to do that? Or were you just so in the moment of what the scene was?

[Oliver Hudson]

No, I think there's something wrong with me. I try to work through this in therapy from time to time. I don't really know why I. No, I think like I. I don't really. I see it as a lot of like a mechanical thing. I can make myself cry very easily. It's really great. Like in terms of. In my real life, like I can manipulate my husband really well. I. I would cry to my dad about getting things. No, I'm kidding. But I'm not. So. I don't know. I don't know. I. I think I was always just. It's my party trick. I can, I can cry very.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

Oh, and break your heart. Now you're not just crying. It was just like. It was like heartbreaking.

[Oliver Hudson]

No, the older I got, the older I got, the more I, you know, would actually think about it. But my mom could just say something to me like, you need to apologize to your brother. And then I would. I didn't want to say sorry.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah, fair enough.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, do that.

[Spencer Hudson]

It's like the hardest thing for me in the world to do. I feel like it's like anytime I need to do any type of scene where I'm crying. I need, like, an hour to, like, figure out, like, a game plan how to do it. It is, like, so difficult. So it's. Yeah, I'm cool that you can do it.

[Kate Hudson]

Like, I'm kind of. With you. I mean. Yeah. I. I. For me, it's like, right before, you know, getting ready, they're gonna roll camera, and I'm, like, feeling like I'm. I'm so money right now. Like. Like, the Emmys are gonna be stacked up on my shelf. And then. Action. I'm like, it's gone.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

And there it goes.

[Oliver Hudson]

It's like when you have a sneeze and you can't get it out right away. So it's like. And then it's just gone forever.

[Spencer Hudson]

Right.

[Kate Hudson]

And then halfway through the scene, I'm.

[Spencer Hudson]

Like, God damn it. You.

[Kate Hudson]

You.

[Tom Yamas]

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

[Oliver Hudson]

You really cry very well, as well. It really is. Oh.

[Abigail Breslin]

I think men have a harder time accessing emotion than women do. Like, we. We are sort of almost like, hardwired to be more connected to our emotional.

[Kate Hudson]

You know, I wonder from an evolutionary standpoint, like, what that is from. You know what I mean? From a primal place.

[Abigail Breslin]

There's a book called the Female Brain, and it's really fascinating because it talks about that Ryan's a lot older than you guys then.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah. Seven years old. I'm. I'm turning 33 in a few days, and Ryan is. Yeah. So he's about exactly seven years older than me.

[Oliver Hudson]

He's 11.

[Spencer Hudson]

11 years older than Abby. Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

Okay.

[Kate Hudson]

And how was that dynamic sort of growing up as far as the sibling relationships went? You know, because he was sort of gone. You know, if he's seven years older. Well, he's seven years old.

[Spencer Hudson]

No, he. I. I mean, it was probably a different dynamic because we weren't so close in age. Yeah, I know. Like, Ryan and I became a lot closer as buddies, like, when I. Towards the end of high school for me, when he was. Yeah. So, yeah, we. We became, like, a lot better pals then. Just because you don't, like, if someone's, you know, 17 and 10. That's such a huge.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Spencer Hudson]

Age gap. But, you know, when it's, you know, 20 and 27, it's kind of not that big a deal.

[Kate Hudson]

Right. Right.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. Ryan and I became really close around the same time. Like, when I was around 17, 18, we became a lot closer, but Spencer and I were. Because we're only four years apart, so we. We grew up. But the. The difference is, like, I didn't really get into any fights or, you know, like sibling issues with Ryan because he was in college and was in and out and Spencer and I would. More.

[Spencer Hudson]

It also would be pretty weird for like a college kid to be like picking fights with like a seven year old.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yes.

[Kate Hudson]

But it sounds like all of y' all got closer as you went as you got older.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah, probably. Probably. Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, Yeah. I would say we're all.

[Spencer Hudson]

We're all pretty tight knit.

[Oliver Hudson]

Did you guys grow up very close together?

[Abigail Breslin]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, we were all close.

[Abigail Breslin]

I mean, like physically.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Spencer Hudson]

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[Spencer Hudson]

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[Spencer Hudson]

I'm good. Seriously.

[Tom Yamas]

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[Abigail Breslin]

Oh, mints.

[Spencer Hudson]

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Oh, I have raisins.

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[Oliver Hudson]

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[Kate Hudson]

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[Abigail Breslin]

Well, you guys, if you started so young, was raising Helen like the first time you guys worked together?

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

And then, and then that was still like kind of in the beginning. Right. I mean, that was my second movie. Right.

[Spencer Hudson]

And that I, yeah, I'd already been doing it, I guess for, I don't know, I've been doing it for a while, I guess. At that point.

[Oliver Hudson]

You were seven.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah. So. Yeah. I mean, so. I guess not that long, I guess. Yeah. I mean, I was 10 years old, so. Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Those are a long three years.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Right. No, yeah. But, yeah, that was the first time we worked together at all.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

What did that, what did it feel like? Like, I mean, I'm trying to think if we've interviewed like child actors, but I, you know, notoriously sibling, like sibling child actors. Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

Yeah. I mean, it's a difficult. It's difficult anyway. But then you add like your childhood and then you add that you guys are growing up together. You guys are going out for different jobs. Some people are. Maybe one is working more than the other. Like, did it create a challenging dynamic for you guys?

[Spencer Hudson]

I Don't think so.

[Oliver Hudson]

I. I don't think so. It was really hard when he didn't get Little Miss Sunshine, and I got it. Very difficult moment.

[Spencer Hudson]

I think it probably. I. I think the reason that there wasn't, oh, like, a weird dynamic or, like, any type of competitive dynamic was like, we're totally different. Like, I'm. I'm a guy. She's a. Like, we were never, like, kind of going out for similar things. So there was never this, like, competitive thing as much as, oh, like, cool, you're doing this, you're doing that. Great. We kind of had our own thing, like, yeah, like, we each had her. We each had our own thing or whatever, if that makes sense.

[Kate Hudson]

Did you like being on set? I mean, was it something you guys loved? Was it. You know, as a child actor? Obviously, there's challenges. It's a. An adult world you get thrown into. You know, you can get up, you know.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

How did you guys deal with all that?

[Spencer Hudson]

I. I like being on set. I. I always. I always enjoyed it. I never had, like, I know a lot of people, like, who maybe didn't, you know, you hear about people like, oh, I grew up a child actor and I hated it and I resent it, and that's. That's like their own experience for me. I've. I've always enjoyed it, and I've never felt like, oh, like, I missed out on so much for being that or this. Like, I enjoyed being on set.

[Oliver Hudson]

I think a lot of that, too, comes from, like, you know, the fact that we weren't ever. We had options. Like, if we didn't want to do it, our parents weren't going to be like, oh, yeah.

[Spencer Hudson]

We weren't, like, supporting the family.

[Kate Hudson]

Got it.

[Oliver Hudson]

So it wasn't like, that immense amount of pressure. But, I mean, we always. I always at least had a lot of fun on set. I don't think it was until I was, like, 12 or 13 when I did this one movie where I really started liking acting in term instead of just loving being on set, if that makes sense.

[Abigail Breslin]

Yeah. Well, I just remember also Spencer. Spencer was a very, like, as a kid, you know, he knew what he wanted. He was like a little man. He had very, very, like, specific opinions and. Oh, God. God, you were so. You guys were so cute. It's like, it's so. This is so fun for me because I, like, really knew you as kids.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

You know, babies and. And your nature, both of you. Your family, your whole family. So sweet. And then we had Hayden. Yeah. Who you also worked with.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

On Nashville.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

So. And she was just like, ready to be an adult. I mean, it was like you had the teenage girl and then you had these like two that was like, ready to be an adult, ready to go, ready to party. And then you had these, like, Adora. I. I got so lucky with all three of you guys.

[Kate Hudson]

Was that. Was that Owen Wilson movie?

[Abigail Breslin]

No, no, no. Raising Helen.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah. Who is in that?

[Abigail Breslin]

Who's Joan Cusack?

[Kate Hudson]

Right.

[Abigail Breslin]

John Corbett.

[Kate Hudson]

John Corbett. That's. That was.

[Oliver Hudson]

The guy did a little part.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

Paris Hilton. I'll remember that. At the. At the. At the restaurant.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

So did you feel like you had a normal childhood? Because, I mean, from my point of view, it wasn't that normal.

[Spencer Hudson]

Probably not.

[Oliver Hudson]

I mean, like normal, but I think as normal as that could have.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah. And what's normal?

[Abigail Breslin]

Did you go to actual school or were you homeschooled?

[Spencer Hudson]

We were homeschooled, yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

All three of you? Ryan too?

[Spencer Hudson]

Ryan too. Ryan too, yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, wow.

[Spencer Hudson]

His homeschooling predates any, like, involvement in showbiz or anything like that.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, that was more so because my dad had just started up his business.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah. And yeah, they were doing their own thing.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. I mean, I know for me, like, when I was around 14, I did get into a weird thing of like, getting really obsessed with booking roles all the time. And that stemmed from one article that I read online when I had. I was 13 years old and I had done a play in New York on Broadway, the Miracle Worker. And when the show closed, somebody, I mean, who writes about a 13 year old child, that they're like, Abigail Breslin's star power is waning after the closing.

[Abigail Breslin]

Oh, no.

[Oliver Hudson]

Reading that online and not knowing at 13 even what the word waning meant and Googling and being like, oh, God, I have to book roles like right now or else I'm completely. And my parents had noticed that I was getting very, you know, stressed about booking things, so they made me take about a year and a half to two years off to just be with my friends. And at first I was like, I hate you. You're the worst. I think it was very important that I took that time to. It's so sad that the way my dad said it to me was like, how can you play a teenager if you don't know what it's like?

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Grateful for that. So.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, that's. That's amazing, honestly, that your mom saw that and did that, you know.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

No, I mean, really, it's so easy to say no. Just keep going, keep chugging it out. Like. Yeah, but it's like, no, no, no. You need to be a kid.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

So I think that's why. But I don't, I don't really know anybody who's had a normal childhood.

[Kate Hudson]

I, I don't think anyone in the world has had it. Yeah, I, I don't know. I'm sure normal even is these days.

[Spencer Hudson]

I always, I always say this. A lot of people.

[Abigail Breslin]

Well, I'm in, I'm in the. In. In the. When you're talking, I mean, in the right sense of like having the structure of what most kids are doing on a daily basis. Like you wake up, you eat, you go to school, you have your after school activities, you know their experience.

[Tom Yamas]

Right.

[Kate Hudson]

You play the clarinet.

[Spencer Hudson]

I mean, I, I know kids though, who are like, in, like really serious, like athletics throughout school and high school. And I feel like their life was more crazy than.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Spencer Hudson]

Than mine wasn't like much more regimented and all about, you know, work for and for them that could be baseball or football or swimming or whatever. So I think it's all, you know. Yeah, it's all, it's all, it's all relative.

[Abigail Breslin]

Relative. Yeah. Except that you're working mostly with adults, correct?

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

So you're not in an environment where you're actually socializing with people your own age and peers, which is a really. That's why, you know, when, when people look at the history of child actors, it's like that peer development is really important. So when you don't have it, I'm. Thank God you guys had each other in your, you know, homeschooling and together had you. There was three of you. But, you know, did you, did she put, did, did your parents put you in any, like, after school activities and.

[Spencer Hudson]

Stuff like that, or did you do like. We had swimming, we had gym class for like the, like, we were part of like, kind of like a, like a homeschooling group, I guess, in New York. So there was. We're in a cult. So that's what it was. We were in a cult. But no. And like you'd get together and do gym classes. I, I honestly think living in New York helped the socialization aspect because there I. We weren't around like other kids as much in the business. So it wasn't like going to the playground being like, oh, who are you repped by? Oh, it was kind of like no one really care was. I had my friends from little League. She had her friends from swim Class. And it was kind of very non. Like, when we weren't working on a movie, it was very much like a non show biz kind of house.

[Kate Hudson]

But what was the recognition factor like, though, you know? Were you guys recognized as kids?

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

I, I had more creepy experiences.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

With that. Where people, like, would come up and literally physically pick me up, be like, please put down my child. Like, don't grab my child. Maybe like, I love you. And like, would cry about like, Little Miss Sunshine changed my life or. And it's when you're, you know, nine years old that's in the. Very overwhelming.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Spencer Hudson]

I had someone. I had someone ask me for an autograph while I was standing, like at a urinal at Outback Steakhouse. And I was like, you can you wait until my hands are free?

[Kate Hudson]

Perhaps you just pee on them? Like, there you go.

[Abigail Breslin]

What about the teenagers? Did it. Did you. Were you ever rebellious?

[Spencer Hudson]

I. I was, I was quite.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

Tell us, Spencer.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, well, I heard you're a year and a half sober.

[Spencer Hudson]

I am a year and a half sober.

[Abigail Breslin]

That's awesome.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah, I. I guess I, I liked alcohol and maybe I liked it a little bit too much and. Yeah. So I, you know, but I've. I've had my ups and downs, I guess, with that. I don't know, related to show business or not. I think it's just because I. I like drinking, so. Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

But. But if you're okay talking about it, I don't care.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

What.

[Kate Hudson]

What was, what was the moment where you're like, you know what this is. I like this too much. You know what I'm saying? Like, I need to. I need to get rid of this in my life entirely. And I, I'm semi. It's semi relatable because I'm on a bit of a. A sober kick because for sure, Kate knows, like, you know, I just felt like I was just drinking too much alcohol. You know what I mean? I. I was still living my life and functioning and being a dad and yeah. Husband and working and all that, but it was just taking its toll. And I, I couldn't go have a martini. I'd have like 10.

[Spencer Hudson]

That's. That's the whole thing. I, I think for me it's kind of like the old, the old saying or whatever, one's too many, ten isn't enough. Yeah, I just, I, I kind of. I lost like all my motivation. I was pretty much like waking up to go out and drink with people all day and, you know, I Think a lot of my friends, like a lot of the people that I liked being around kind of stopped liking being around me because I was kind of like just a drunk. And like, there was no kind of like pumping the brakes ever. It was kind of just 100% go, go, go. And you got in this cycle of. Yeah, just kind of like a really nasty cycle. And I was like, you know, I really need to stop this because this is, you know, getting dangerous and I'm not really living a life.

[Abigail Breslin]

So what was the, what's been the most surprising part of your sobriety so far?

[Spencer Hudson]

I was really afraid of how am I. Okay, how am I going to be social with people if I'm not drinking or doing something else? Am I gonna, you know, get along with people? How am I going to talk to people? Everyone's going to realize I suck or I'm not funny or this and that. And I might. I'm still not funny for sure.

[Kate Hudson]

Were you funny though? You were funny and then you subjugate and now you're not funny anyway.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah, it's, it's, you know, it's just. But it, it didn't work out that way. And actually my life's gotten a lot better. I've gotten a lot healthier. I don't need to wake up and think like, oh, I really hope I wasn't a dick to someone last night or, you know, was I rude to someone or did I say something nasty or, you know, it's, you know, and, and I like actually show up to stuff like. Yeah, show up to like. I'm not just like blowing stuff off or forgetting to do.

[Kate Hudson]

And the energy, I'm sure your energy level is, are like through the roof compared.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I'm like, I wake up like at 7:30 in the morning, I still like do my thing so weird because I used to sleep 2 o' clock and wake up hung over and miserable and it would take three, four hours to just get in a groove.

[Oliver Hudson]

It's, it's so, it's been so strange to see him in this way.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Because, you know, everybody has their issues. Whatever. He's my big brother. And I've been so like, proud of him. Not to be cheesy, but I have been proud of him because it's, it's really like, I think whenever somebody goes through something like that, it's like, oh, I have like my, my brother back, like to being the person they normally, you know, know him to be. And he's just been like, such a badass, like, in his journey with it. And I, we're. We're very proud of him, but.

[Abigail Breslin]

Oh, I love hearing this so much. Spencer, do you feel like your mental clarity is, like, completely different?

[Spencer Hudson]

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[Abigail Breslin]

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[Spencer Hudson]

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[Spencer Hudson]

That's okay.

[Tom Yamas]

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[Spencer Hudson]

I'm good. Seriously.

[Tom Yamas]

Let me check this pocket.

[Abigail Breslin]

Oh, mints.

[Spencer Hudson]

Really, I'm fine.

[Tom Yamas]

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[Spencer Hudson]

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[Kate Hudson]

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[Abigail Breslin]

We were talking to this Dr. Amen, who's like a psychiatrist and he's on Instagram. Lies. A very popular psychiatrist. And, but he was saying, like, drinking just alcohol is just absolutely awful for the brain. Like, it just, when you actually see what it does to the. Your brain function, it makes people just be like, ah, I'm not gonna do that. And, and, and, and do that anymore. And the first thing that people really realize when they stop drinking in those first, like, you know, weeks is like, it literally, it's almost like their whole brain works differently.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah. I mean, I, I was, towards the end of my drinking, I was, I was drinking about like two bottles of vodka a day.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, my God.

[Spencer Hudson]

When you cut that out, there's gonna be like a boost in mental fitness just because you're basically in a coma when you're drinking that much. And I. But, yeah, like the first couple of months, I mean, I'd say even the first, like six months to a year, it's definitely tricky figuring out how to fall asleep. That was the big thing because. And then realizing what sleep actually is as opposed to passing out and. Yeah. And like a roller coaster of emotions. Obviously feeling stuff all the time because you've been, you know, whatever.

[Abigail Breslin]

Do you think that some of this started to get worse after you lost your, your father? Because I know. And I'm so sorry to hear that.

[Spencer Hudson]

Oh, thank you.

[Abigail Breslin]

Yeah.

[Spencer Hudson]

I've I've thought about that. I was actually talking with. In. In a meeting I go to for my sobriety. I was talking about this with someone because you kind of. You'll think, like, oh, I wonder if this was the reason I drank more. What was the tipping point? This and that. And I would go crazy trying to figure it out. And then I realized, like, okay, I think what it is, is, like, I'm an alcoholic and just what it is. And I will. You know, I can say, oh, my dad died. I'm gonna get drunk. And I did. I could say, oh, I booked a movie. I'm gonna go celebrate and get drunk. Oh, I got fired from this job. I'm gonna get drunk. Oh, I. Yeah, right. Really great happened. I'm gonna get it. The. The key part being I'm gonna get drunk.

[Abigail Breslin]

I'm b. Gonna be cheesy too. I'm really proud of you.

[Spencer Hudson]

Thank you.

[Abigail Breslin]

Thank you.

[Kate Hudson]

But Abigail, like, dealing with that, and then we'll move on. But, like, I'm just curious as a sister, how do you approach that? You know, I mean, do you say, you need to get your. Together, you're a alcoholic, or. You have to tread lightly. You have to tread lightly.

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, may I say, yeah, go do.

[Spencer Hudson]

Say whatever you want.

[Oliver Hudson]

I do remember at one point when he had come to visit me at one point on a set of a film that I was doing and saying to my mom, like, I knew he was drunk when he came to visit me on the set. And I was like, I'm concerned because it's lunchtime on set, which was like, you know, whatever time it was 2pm and I said. And it's just, I. You know, it was not so much that he was hard to be around. It was more so that I was worried for him. And then he was the one, though, who came and said, you know, I gotta. I gotta sober up and I gotta get control of this. And I felt an immense amount of relief in that moment of, like. I remember I was with my best friend Taylor, and I started crying and I said, oh, my gosh, he's gonna, you know, be healthy because, yeah, I mean, it's. It's hard. But I've also known so many people who have addiction, and it's not always, you know, people like to make it this really dark, super scary thing. And it. There are different levels to it, but I think him taking accountability and doing what he needed to do to feel better has been awesome for him and awesome for everybody that knows and loves him, because he's you know, he's doing so well now and we're super happy. Not that he was. It wasn't like he was, you know, right. Cars into, you know, telephone poles or anything, but, you know, it's pretty high.

[Spencer Hudson]

Functioning, but not, not really functioning at all. It was all kind of a house of cards.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah. Of course. And there's probably so many bullets dodged during. You know what I mean? Like a billion of them.

[Spencer Hudson]

Just.

[Kate Hudson]

It could have been this, it could have been that. You could be in jail. You could.

[Spencer Hudson]

100.

[Kate Hudson]

You could have killed someone in a car. I mean like all that.

[Abigail Breslin]

100.

[Spencer Hudson]

Very, very lucky y. Yeah. Very grateful that my life is so good right now, so.

[Kate Hudson]

That's awesome, buddy.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

And Abigail, you got married. You're a married.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm a married lady now.

[Abigail Breslin]

Do you have kids yet or.

[Oliver Hudson]

No, I. I have my two fur babies. Well, one that has fur and then my other cat, Yoda, who's in the other room sulking. He's a hairless cat. But, you know, that's on the. That's on the horizon. I have my mother in law and my own mother, you know, asking me every day.

[Abigail Breslin]

Of course, every mom wants. They're all ready. They're like ready to get. Just get their hands on a baby.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, yeah. No, but I'm. I'm starting. I've just been starting to get that because there were a couple of years where I was like, maybe I'm just not the type of person who's gonna have kids. You know what I mean? And only in the past year or so I've been like, like my friend had a baby and I'm like, oh, God. And this sounds. But like, I want to eat you. I can't. I. You know when babies are so cute, you want to murder them in a weird 100.

[Kate Hudson]

You want to like consume them, like bite their faces.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

I'm about to go like swallow a baby whole in an hour and a half. I'm just gonna get my hands on that baby.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, the little like ring.

[Abigail Breslin]

I know.

[Oliver Hudson]

And I'm like, oh, I want to kill you. So I've been definitely starting to get that.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Abigail Breslin]

What have you been working on recently?

[Oliver Hudson]

I did this movie with my friend Tyler Shields called Chapter 51. That's really cool. It's like, was filmed on IMAX. It's very, very, very cool.

[Abigail Breslin]

Exciting.

[Oliver Hudson]

But. And I play an actress in it, so that's really out of my wheelhouse.

[Abigail Breslin]

Couldn't relate to it at all.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. And then I've been working on my album and does music and.

[Tom Yamas]

Yes.

[Abigail Breslin]

When did you go? When did you guys get into music?

[Spencer Hudson]

I mean, we, we grew up in a house that appreciated music a lot. So, I mean, I started playing in like dumb bands and stuff like that when I was like 13 and then, you know, playing around the city and then, you know, kind of just like little, little punk bands.

[Oliver Hudson]

Don't get mad at me. But he was in a band when he was like 14 called not quite Dead yet.

[Abigail Breslin]

Was it metal?

[Spencer Hudson]

We were, yeah, we were kind of, I think the band had an identity crisis. Yeah. What kind of music we were playing? Because we'd play, you know, one day. You know, we're a bunch of 13, 14 year old boys. So one day someone be like, oh, let's play System of a Down. Oh, let's do this. Like with a lot of covers and then a couple of original songs that I hope I've improved somewhat as a lyricist and writer and all that since then, but maybe not.

[Kate Hudson]

I mean, it's kind of an amazing band.

[Abigail Breslin]

I don't know. System of A Down is a great start.

[Spencer Hudson]

Oh, no, System of It already.

[Abigail Breslin]

You're on a, you're on an upward trajectory.

[Spencer Hudson]

The System of A Down was, was great. I'm talking about our stuff we wrote kind of sucked a lot. No, all the covers we played were, we had great taste in music. Just like our execution for our own stuff was not the best.

[Oliver Hudson]

Go into his room and he would be on GarageBand and he'd be like, abby, I need you to like bang your hairbrush against like the ladder for the bunk bed. And I was like, wow, I am a musician.

[Kate Hudson]

Right? Right. You're like, I, I made it.

[Spencer Hudson]

Like, I am a recording artist.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

But Not Quite Dead yet is a genius for 13 year olds.

[Spencer Hudson]

I mean, exactly, because we're literally not quite dead yet.

[Kate Hudson]

It's a genius name.

[Spencer Hudson]

We're really, we're really tough.

[Abigail Breslin]

Oh my God. When are you planning on, I mean, how far along are you with your album?

[Oliver Hudson]

It's basically done. I'm just, I, I have some music on Spotify right now, but I don't go under my name. I go under my artist's name, which is sophomore. And it's like very, you know, singer, songwriter, pop.

[Spencer Hudson]

It's good, it's good stuff.

[Abigail Breslin]

Thank you.

[Oliver Hudson]

It's, it's fun. It's fun and you do such great music.

[Abigail Breslin]

Thanks.

[Oliver Hudson]

Amazing.

[Abigail Breslin]

Yeah, I'm just, I love hearing that you guys are doing this. I, I, I, I'm gonna get off and listen Immediately, I'm mad that I didn't, but I. Yeah.

[Spencer Hudson]

I was like.

[Abigail Breslin]

I usually do my research I don't know about, but I'm glad you have not.

[Spencer Hudson]

I'm mad you don't, like, celebrate the entire Not Quite Dead yet catalog.

[Abigail Breslin]

Yes, I should know.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

You need to bring. You need to bring back that band. Go find your old buddies and make it happen.

[Spencer Hudson]

We have a residency at the Sphere.

[Abigail Breslin]

Okay. So, guys, we always end our podcast with a two part question. The first part is, you know, what is it about your sibling that you wish you had more of? Something that you would love to be able to emulate? And then what is the one thing about your sibling or one thing about your sibling that you wish you could alleviate, that you could, you know, kind of remove from them so that they could have a better life experience?

[Oliver Hudson]

I would say I wish I had Spencer's resilience. He's a very resilient person and he really shows up all the time and has a really strong sense of, like, responsibility that I really admire. And the one thing I wish I could take away from him is I just. And I think this is true for, like, everybody. But I wish that he, like, saw what everybody else season.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, I get that a lot.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah, I know, right? I was gonna just like, do like a snarky joke. Like, oh, I wish I could cry on cue. No, Abby's. Abby's a great. Great at bringing people together and like, just like always, like, hosting, like, good parties or like, always, like, just figuring out the right combination of people to have around. I mean, I have great friends too, but. But like, she's very good at just like getting cool groups of people together. Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Really? That's very high common.

[Spencer Hudson]

And then I would say maybe I wish she could be on time to dinner a bit if the reservations at 7:15.

[Kate Hudson]

What time is she?

[Spencer Hudson]

I'm ordering it. I'm ordering a quarter to eight. And I.

[Abigail Breslin]

Oh, my gosh.

[Oliver Hudson]

But I said the same thing. I said, I wish that I was more on time.

[Spencer Hudson]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

I. I wanted to say one thing to Oliver because nobody remembers this from Screen Queens, and I really hope that you do. Do you remember that scene where you had to say the word macabre?

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, of course.

[Oliver Hudson]

And could not.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

I didn't imagine that in my head, right?

[Kate Hudson]

No, no, I couldn't get it out. I. It was macabre. McCabe. But I was like, I can't get it. It's like, it's macabre. I'm like, but there's an R. I could not get it.

[Spencer Hudson]

And not say macabre on cue. Cannot cry on cue.

[Kate Hudson]

Macabre. Because it's M, A, C, A B, R, E, I think is how you spell it.

[Spencer Hudson]

The name of an Irish cop.

[Kate Hudson]

And it just me up and I could. And you know when you. You. You're coming to that word in your dialogue, you're like, oh, here it comes. Here it comes. It's like.

[Spencer Hudson]

The one that broke you.

[Oliver Hudson]

I didn't imagine that in my mind. Thanks.

[Kate Hudson]

No, that's real. That's real.

[Abigail Breslin]

You guys, I love seeing you so much. Thank you for coming on and sharing everything.

[Spencer Hudson]

Awesome.

[Kate Hudson]

Yes. And congrats on your sobriety, buddy. That's awesome.

[Spencer Hudson]

Thanks.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yes.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, man.

[Spencer Hudson]

Love you. Take care.

[Tom Yamas]

Love you.

[Kate Hudson]

Love you guys. It's so crazy how big.

[Abigail Breslin]

I know.

[Kate Hudson]

I mean, I mean, you.

[Spencer Hudson]

You.

[Kate Hudson]

I know. Because you haven't seen them since they were little. Little. I mean, I. I saw Abigail. I mean, I. I can't believe it's 10 years ago.

[Abigail Breslin]

It's almost too much. It's like saying they're real adults. Like, serious. She's so much older.

[Kate Hudson]

Adult. It's a adult.

[Abigail Breslin]

She's a woman.

[Kate Hudson]

She's so weird.

[Spencer Hudson]

Wow.

[Abigail Breslin]

That was great. I love that. All right.

[Oliver Hudson]

Bye.

[Spencer Hudson]

Bye.

[Lester Holt]

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[Kate Hudson]

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[Abigail Breslin]

It's crazy how life is one minute, everything is perfect, and then you get married.

[Oliver Hudson]

You don't care for me anymore.

[Spencer Hudson]

You don't.

[Lester Holt]

Tyler Perry's divorced sisters sneak peek after.

[Tom Yamas]

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[Lester Holt]

On BET plus this is an iHeart podcast.