Blood, Weaves, and Tears with the Nadar Sisters

Summary

Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson

Episode: "Blood, Weaves, and Tears with the Nader Sisters"
Date: September 1, 2025
Guests: Brooks Nader & Sarah Jane Nader (The Nader Sisters)
Theme: Exploring sibling dynamics, family evolution, Southern roots, and launching a reality show ("Love Thy Nader")

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Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Revelry dives deep into the Nader sisters' story: growing up in a close-knit, conservative household in Louisiana, rebelling and moving to New York, and ultimately landing their own reality show. It’s an honest, raucous conversation about family chaos, evolving values, generational clashes—and the raw, unfiltered side of life as sisters in the limelight. The Naders, joined briefly by their dad, unpack their journey with humor and heart, giving listeners a real peek behind their new Hulu series.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Growing Up: From Baton Rouge to NYC Stardom

• Southern Roots & Close Quarters (06:44–11:10)
  • Four sisters, all born within five years, sharing small bedrooms and tight finances in a conservative, religious home.
  • “We really just had each other to entertain one another, which I think bonded us. But then also being like church girls… we always aspired to, like, live in LA or live in New York.” – Sarah Jane Nader (10:06)
• Hierarchy & Fights
  • Sibling pecking order was always shifting; playful rivalry often boiled over:
    • “We will each others weave out, drag us down the thing, blood is drawn and then five minutes later we’re like scratching each other’s back and gossiping.” – Sarah Jane (10:57)
• Early Rebellion & Moving Out
  • Brooks, the oldest, led the way by moving to NY to model, with each sister (driven by FOMO) eventually following.

2. Family Values: Generational Shifts & Parenting

• Strict Upbringing (12:00–15:12)
  • No bikinis, no alcohol—rules were ironclad, especially for the eldest, Brooks.
  • Relatable Southern anecdotes: missing out on high school traditions, parental consequences (14:19).
  • “Once we moved to New York, it was really like, free for all. Like, Brooks wasn’t allowed to wear bikinis her whole life...then moved to New York and got on Sports Illustrated…” – Sarah Jane (12:18)
• Parents Growing Up Too
  • Their parents, who had the sisters young, have loosened up as they've joined in on their daughters’ adventures. Now, they're "living vicariously"—even starting to drink, travel, and enjoy new experiences (15:11–17:08).
• Dad Joins the Podcast (24:49–30:17)
  • The sisters' father discusses embracing his daughters' independence, being hardest on the eldest, and prioritizing unconditional family support:
    • “The goal was always independence. We want them to be independent...Family is the hill we die on. Doesn’t matter what choices you make...we love our girls no matter what.” – Nader Family Dad (27:12)
  • Funny notes on dad's youthful looks, daughters' older dating preferences, and handling their wild careers and choices (30:14–31:03).

3. Showbiz: Breaking In & Launching "Love Thy Nader"

• Brooks’ Unconventional Path to Sports Illustrated (31:26–33:18)
  • Excluded by her agency, she took matters into her own hands with an open casting call—ultimately landing the gig, proving self-belief over industry gatekeeping.
  • “My agency...laughed in my face...So I booked a one way ticket to Miami with my mom...progressed through all the rounds and ended up being featured in the magazine...I had to send my agency a little signed cover copy.” – Brooks Nader (31:40–33:10)
• Sarah Jane’s Non-Profit Career & Social Responsibility (33:33–37:24)
  • Deeply influenced by their father's philanthropy, Sarah Jane works in connecting influencers with causes, encouraging celebrities to use their platform for good.
  • “It’s like corporate social responsibility, but for celebrities, influencers, public figures. We connect them with causes...helping them give back.” – Brooks Nader (34:55)
• Reality TV Origins (42:36–44:24)
  • The show idea began with Jimmy Kimmel’s agent, was pitched to Hulu, and finally landed with Kimmel himself as producer.
  • “We’re honored to have his humor and brain...so smart and amazing. It’s been in the works for several years. The stars all aligned at the right time.” – Sarah Jane (42:44)
• Raw Portrayal & Family Chaos (44:24–47:52)
  • The sisters promise full transparency: fights, tears, wild nights, and all the unfiltered ups and downs.
  • “We’re completely raw and authentic during it...no makeup, in our sweats, crying, dumb...” – Sarah Jane (44:24)
  • “They had to like bring it back, the producers. They’re like, ‘Girls, it’s getting to be…We can’t even catch it all. There’s blood over here. There’s a weave. There’s tears.’” – Sarah Jane (47:27)

4. Dating, Identity, and Sisters as Co-Dependents

• Single Life & Dating Tastes (48:01–50:21)
  • Both Nader sisters are single, openly sharing about flings, joking about dating older men, and being “way too close” to date anyone successfully.
  • “Our taste is around 50s...sometimes we like a personality more than a look on a guy...” – Sarah Jane (30:06)
  • Playful banter about why they’re attracted to older men, dad’s advice not to date guys he’d have to call ‘sir,’ and playful rivalry over their ‘roster’ of “youngies” and older guys.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Sibling Fights:
  “We will each others’ weave out, drag us down the thing, blood is drawn and then five minutes later, we’re like scratching each other’s back and...gossiping.”
  – Sarah Jane Nader (10:57)

• On Parenting & Independence:
  “The goal was always independence...Family is the hill we die on. Doesn’t matter what choices you make...we love our girls no matter what. And that’ll always be the case.”
  – Nader Family Dad (27:12)

• Brooks on Her Big Break:
  “I went home and I opened up Instagram and they were like, Sports Illustrated is hosting an open casting in Miami...I had no money, no plan. I just booked a one way ticket to Miami with my mom...ended up being featured in the magazine.”
  – Brooks Nader (31:40)

• On Dating Older Men:
  “Our taste is around 50s...sometimes we like a personality more than a look on a guy...we need a new rule, we can’t date anyone that’s uglier than Dad.”
  – Sarah Jane & Brooks Nader (30:14–30:31)

• On Reality Show Authenticity:
  “We are completely raw and authentic...not done up with makeup...in our sweats, crying, pretty dumb...”
  – Sarah Jane (44:24)

• Episode Title Genesis:
  “There’s blood over here, there’s a weave, there’s tears.”
  Oliver: “Blood, weaves and tears—that’s a good title for an episode.”
  – (47:27–47:43)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Subject | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 06:44 | Introduction of Nader sisters, early childhood and sibling order | | 10:06 | Family chaos, tight quarters, and tough upbringing | | 14:19 | Strict rules, rebellion, and pivotal high school moments | | 15:11 | Parents’ youthful age and evolving together with their daughters | | 24:49 | Nader family dad joins the conversation | | 27:12 | Dad on independence, unconditional love, and handling daughters’ personal choices | | 31:26 | Brooks’ unconventional journey to Sports Illustrated | | 33:33 | Sarah Jane’s nonprofit career and influencer philanthropy | | 42:36 | The origin story of "Love Thy Nader" with Jimmy Kimmel | | 44:24 | Discussion on being unfiltered and prepared for reality TV fame | | 47:27 | The essence of the show: “blood, weaves and tears” | | 48:01 | The sisters’ single status and dating adventures | | 50:12 | Dad’s rule about not dating peers and generational dating jokes |

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Episode Tone & Style

• Unfiltered, playful, Southern candidness: There’s a chaotic, loving dynamic throughout, with all the sisters (and dad) quick to turn a serious subject into a self-deprecating joke.
• Family-first: Despite all the drama and rebellion, the Naders repeatedly emphasize their loyalty.
• Genuine reflection: Both hosts and guests share openly about their own struggles, family dynamics, and personal growth—never sugar-coating, often laughing at themselves.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

“Blood, Weaves, and Tears with the Nader Sisters” delivers exactly what the title promises: a wild, heartfelt, and hysterically honest account of sibling rivalry, Southern dysfunction, and generational transformation, set against the backdrop of the Naders’ rise to reality TV fame. You’ll get family philosophy straight from dad, explicit stories of rebellion and redemption, and a preview of a reality show that’s all about messy, real, ride-or-die sisterhood. If you’re fascinated with complicated families and unapologetic authenticity, this episode is not to be missed.

Transcript

[Brooks Nader]

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[Oliver Hudson]

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[Sarah Jane Nader]

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[Sarah Jane Nader]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

What would you do if one bad.

[Oliver Hudson]

Decision forced you to choose between a.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.

[Oliver Hudson]

He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

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[Oliver Hudson]

Hi, I'm Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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[Oliver Hudson]

Our relationship and what it's like to be sibling.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

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[Oliver Hudson]

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[Podcast Advertiser]

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[Oliver Hudson]

Sibling revelry.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

That's good.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oliver Hudson. Oliver Hudson here. That is my name. Last time I checked. I just drove back from Colorado, 12 and a half hour drive. And now I'm here sitting in front of you, speaking into a microphone. I've done this drive a million times. I do it four times a year. And it's really an amazing time. People would say, oh, God, 12 hours straight. What are you doing? Is it crazy? Is it not? It's. It's amazing because I get to sit and listen to podcasts, to books on tape, and then I turn everything off and I just hear the tires against the pavement. And I think. I think a lot of people get into their cars and feel like they have to do something. They have to get on the phone, they have to turn the radio on, they have to listen to something. But really, when there's no one else in that car, it is a time, the only time, I think, in your day, where you can truly be alone with your thoughts. So I would suggest to those who are going long distances and even not turn everything off and just sit with your thoughts and see what happens and let your mind wander. Because we live in a society now where our minds are no longer able to wander. We're so inundated with tech and the next thing. So we rarely have those moments. The car is the time to have those moments. And your brain just moves into different spectrums, into different directions that you normally would not allow it to go. And it can be pretty cathartic and amazing. And that's what I did. Five hours, just nothing raw. Dogging my own brain. Yes. Anyway, I'm here. Summer is over. Not really, but summer's Pretty much done. Back from vacation. School's about to start, but I won't get into that because we have a waiting room, if you didn't know. And Brooks and Sarah Jane Nader. The Nader, two of the four Nader sisters, are waiting in the waiting room. They've got a new show coming out. Love Thy Nadir. Very excited to talk to them. I have a feeling it's going to go well off the rails, maybe a little unhinged. I think we're gonna get a real idea of who these girls are, so let's bring them in. How are you guys?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

We're good.

[Brooks Nader]

How are you?

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm good. Where are you? You in la?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

We're in la. La? Beverly Hillbillies. That's that.

[Oliver Hudson]

How long ago did you guys actually move to la?

[Brooks Nader]

So we actually live in New York.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, you do? Holy.

[Brooks Nader]

She wants to move to L. A, But I don't know. I'm not sold yet.

[Oliver Hudson]

No. Why?

[Brooks Nader]

Because New York is the best. I don't know. I mean, our view is, like, insane right now, so it's. This is like the best. I don't know.

[Oliver Hudson]

Where are you originally from?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

We're from Louisiana.

[Brooks Nader]

Baton Rouge.

[Oliver Hudson]

Baton Rouge, Yeah. Okay, give me. Just give me a sense of the childhood story growing up.

[Brooks Nader]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

You know, how. How you got to where you got to.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Oh, my God.

[Oliver Hudson]

How we went from Baton Rouge to Love Thy Nader.

[Brooks Nader]

I mean, it was a journey.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

It was basically. I mean, the short version is all my sisters copy me. You know, you're a sibling.

[Brooks Nader]

You get it?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

And I moved to New York, dropped out of college to pursue modeling, and they just saw how much fun I was having. And each girl, one by one, soon followed. And then we just fell in love with New York and, you know, planted our roots there. And now we just can't get enough of it.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's what everyone literally. Brooks, are you the oldest?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

I'm.

[Brooks Nader]

She's the oldest.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Thanks for asking. You can't tell us I'm the oldest?

[Brooks Nader]

No. I think it was a trickle effect. So there's four of us. And I was in high school, and I went to New York for the first time to visit Brooks and was, like, living in Baton Rouge, not too much to do. And so when I came to New York and saw her lifestyle, I was like, oh, my God, I want this. I don't want to go to an SEC school. I'm sick of football. I just want to be in. And so I moved when I was 18 and went to Fordham in New York, and Then the other two girls did the whole college sorority thing. They went to uga, and then by that time, we were having so much fun in New York that they were like, fomo.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

You know how it is with siblings. Siblings get fomo, and it's like, why am I not there? Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

So what are the. What's the age difference here from the youngest to the oldest? You don't have to say your age if you don't want to, but it's just. I can.

[Brooks Nader]

So she's 33.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Suck off. I'm 28 years old. That's so not cool.

[Oliver Hudson]

Okay, so Brooks is 33. Three.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

No. Oh, my God. This is my naive. I don't want to be 30. I'm 28.

[Oliver Hudson]

Okay, so Brooks is 33, and then I'm 23.

[Brooks Nader]

I'll get my passport. We're five years apart. It's four girls within five years. So my mom really banged them out.

[Oliver Hudson]

Wow.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

She had us all by, I think, the age of 24 or something like 25 or 6. Yeah, she had four cranked out.

[Oliver Hudson]

And so what was that like growing up, as far as siblings go? You know, Was there a hierarchy? Were there people who were more in love than others? Did that shift? Did that change?

[Brooks Nader]

I think it was always shifting.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Like, we were. Hierarchy. Was always me on top of the pyramid.

[Brooks Nader]

She was just a big bully, and she would lock me in dog cages.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Are you the eldest, Oliver?

[Oliver Hudson]

I am.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Okay, so you get it hard.

[Oliver Hudson]

I do. Katie and I did not have a great relationship to begin with, though. And she worked together.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

I love that.

[Oliver Hudson]

I know. Well, things obviously have shifted, you know, but she. All she wanted was for me to love her. You know what I mean? And I couldn't. I. I just. I was a young boy. We were a product of divorce. I was dealing with my own weird as, like, a introverted kid because my dad wasn't around, and that's all she wanted, but I couldn't give it to her. But that's. That changed, you know, as you get older, changes, you mature, and then you come together. And, of course, now we're best friends, right?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah. The best part about. And also, it's different. I feel like the relationship between, like, brother and sister versus all sisters, you know? Like, I don't know what our older brother, if we had one, would. He'd probably hate us. Be like, attention, like you throwing himself off this side of this.

[Oliver Hudson]

But was it contentious with all four of you? I mean, did it get nasty ever?

[Brooks Nader]

I think we were always, like, creepily close. Like best friends. Just like.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Well, you have to go into the background. Like, we grew up in like an extremely conservative, humble household. We had like a tiny house, two girls to a room, so we were always on top of each other, you know, because of how we grew up. You know, for the first, like, period of my life, my dad worked for a nonprofit. He made like, he was just telling us, like, he made $18,000 a year, you know, until I was like 10 years old. And, you know, he had four daughters. And so we all, we really just had each other to entertain one another, which I think bonded us. But then also being like church girls and, you know, being so enthralled by like, you know, going into like the checkout line at the grocery store and seeing like tabloids and being like, this is seems so cool because we had such a, you know, you know, different upbringing. I feel like we always aspired to, like, live in LA or live in New York. And so I think we all shared the same goals and we bonded from that. But in terms of like how we fight, I mean, we are the people say we ride each other of like an Italian mobster family because we will each others weave out, drag us down the thing, blood is drawn and then five minutes later, we're like scratching each other's back and like, you know, gossiping. So we're just kind of like, dude.

[Oliver Hudson]

Actually it's kind of the best way to go because you don't hide anything.

[Brooks Nader]

You know what I mean?

[Oliver Hudson]

Like, it's all right out in front of you. You're not going to hold any kind of resentment because you have a ill will to one of your sisters. It's like, hey, you know what? I hate you right now.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

It's so much better than these families that like, even like my ex husband, like his family, they were so prim and proper. And if someone was mad at someone within the family, it'd be like they didn't talk for three weeks and then it was just awkward when they saw each other. We're like, we never spoke, like, yeah, me off. Yeah, and it's over.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, yeah. And growing up in a conservative family, I mean, obviously you didn't adhere to much of those values. Or do you? Did you? How did that work out for you? And how did your parents sort of deal with three girls or four or four girls who were just kind of like, all right, cool, we love you, but maybe this isn't how we want to go.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brooks Nader]

I think like, I growing up was like kind of conformist like, I didn't really speak out about things that I didn't believe in or like, wanted to do. And then moving to New York really, like, freed me. I think. Brooks was always a wild child rule breaker, like, always.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Never had privileges.

[Brooks Nader]

She was like, just always pushing the envelope and challenging my parents, I think. And they were also the hardest on her because she's the oldest, as you probably. But yeah, I think it was different for each of us. But once we moved to New York, it was really like, free for all. Like, Brooks wasn't allowed to wear bikinis her whole life. And then moved to New York and got on Sports Illustrated and it's like on the COVID and like.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

But the thing that annoyed me about Sports Illustrated was I was like, I'm gonna show my parents, like, I'm gonna wear a two piece bikini, whatever. And then my Sports Illustrated cover, I was in a one piece and I was like, come on, my parents, that I just like, whatever. And my mom goes, still followed our rules. You're in a one piece.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh my God, that is funny. But did your parent. Did your parents? Because, you know, I have friends who grew up in very sort of Christian households who had real rebellion and it didn't go so well, you know what I mean? Because the values that their parents were trying to instill upon them were so ingrained that they had no room to let their children sort of breathe and experience their own shit.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

But your parents understanding, like, hey, this is what we. These are our values. These are. This is what we grew up on. We tried to instill this into our children, but they are who they are. They're individuals and we're gonna love them no matter what, you know? Or was there some contention where it's like, no, you need to be this.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

I think that they've conformed as we've like, entered this new era of being in the industry and whatever, because they do just want us to be happy. But I think when we were growing up, especially for me, because I was the oldest, you know how it is. You get the brunt of all the rules things, and then the youngest does whatever the fuck they want. So for me, it was like a very much so like, we will beat you into submission to, like, follow our fucking rules. And, like, you're not gonna not follow them. You know what I mean? Like, I would, like, work my ass off and then, you know, make the dance team. And like, I was so thrilled about that. And then there's one party night on dance team where you go, TPing you know, the football player's house. I so excited about that. I worked my ass off to be on the team. And I was one minute late to the breakfast table at 7am and they go, nope, you're not doing Rolling Night. And like, parents were calling my. My parents and being like, she worked so hard. She didn't make it the first year, she was devastated. Sophomore year, she made it. And this is the one night. And you guys are really going to take it from her. And they're like, that's our rule. Sorry. And you know, they found out I had sex. My door was broken down. You know, I didn't have a door. Yeah, I was like.

[Brooks Nader]

I think they were like, so strict when we were growing up because they just wanted us to, like, do exactly what they said. And then I feel like. I feel like they're so young. Like they were raising us when they were like 20.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

The guys we date are their age. Let me put it that way.

[Brooks Nader]

They're like, us having kids, right?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

And I'm like, daddy. Dad's like, don't let him be older than me. I'm like, they're gonna be. That's the rule.

[Brooks Nader]

I'm like, you're too young for that to be the rule. But I think, like, they are growing up with us. So, like, as we've moved to New York and like, experienced this whole new life, they are sort of like experiencing life for the first time too, because they didn't have their 20s, they were like.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

And they didn't travel, trying to feed us.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, that's. That's an interesting take, actually. I mean, they are sort of living vicariously through you guys.

[Brooks Nader]

Exactly.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah. And they're like, even when they come here to la, we have this awesome house we've rented. Like, it's so cute to see. There's this TikTok and it's like, don't forget it's your parents first time living too. And he's just videoing every little thing, all the Love by Nader billboards. Like, he hasn't, you know, they haven't traveled. Like, they left the country for the first time with us, like, you know, several years ago. So they're experiencing life for the first time and it's fun to see them, like, get to live life with us and have an appreciation for it because they didn't grow up doing any of that.

[Oliver Hudson]

It's interesting too, because it probably. I don't know if they've talked to you about it or not, but it's shifted their perspective how could it not? Meaning, we laid down all these rules for our girls. We had these expectations for who they were supposed to be based on who we were.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Right.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's not how it works. You know what I'm saying? I have three kids, you know.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Oh, you do?

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. So of course you're trying to be the best father. You're trying to instill what you want to instill in them. But I was wild. You know, I wasn't. I was nutty. I still. I'm almost 50. I still am. But, you know, my kids, when they start to do these things and experiment, I've experienced them. So it would be hypocrite. It would be hypocritical for me to, you know, to get on them. Now. I can instill wisdom and say, look, I went through this. So here, watch out for these pitfalls. But for your parents, it's interesting because they have to have shifted and changed after sort of being able to experience you guys and. And your successes and see how great you are.

[Brooks Nader]

Yeah, right.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Like, they didn't grow up, like, to your point of you saying, like, you did all the wild, crazy things, partying. So now you're like, get it with your kids and how to marry them. My parents did not, like, alcohol was not in our household growing up. Not their wedding. Didn't smoke. They didn't have alcohol at their wedding. They had a huge ceremony. Like, they started drinking, like, when we started literally at, like, 40, you know, at 40 years old.

[Brooks Nader]

For them, I, like, they'll, like, now.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Like, my dad will get, like, wasted off of, like, two years. It's, like, adorable. He's like a college kid, and he also looks like one. So we're like, Brooks, like, who's this guy? And I'm like, my fucking dad. Okay. All like, backwards baseball cap like you.

[Oliver Hudson]

How old are your parents? Are you kidding me?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

That's like, when I'm with my dad on, like, camera and stuff, like, people. It looks like we're dating, actually. I can.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Throw them into the pod. I can tell them to come.

[Brooks Nader]

Yeah. Our parents are all here. Our whole family's here.

[Oliver Hudson]

That is so funny. I can't even. I can't believe it's, like, basically my age. I'm 48. 49. September. But that's crazy.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Isn't that crazy?

[Oliver Hudson]

Wow. That's fun, though.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah, that's fun.

[Oliver Hudson]

You know, it's like your parents are almost. It's like they're.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

You're.

[Oliver Hudson]

They're 50 years old, but they're on your level essentially because they're experiencing this new thing. We're like, ooh, right?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah.

[Brooks Nader]

They were raised even like, stricter than us. So like, everything was awful.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Trust me. We're terrified for our grandparents to see this show. We're like, oh God, nice knowing you. Almost 30 years together, four kids and some of reality TV's most unforgettable moments.

[Danielle Fishel]

We know a thing or two about.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Living life out loud. We're taking you behind the scenes in our new podcast, Between Us with me.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Heather Dubrow, and me, Terry debrow. Between Us isn't about perfect lighting or curated Instagram grids.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

It's the unfiltered behind closed doors conversations you wish you could eavesdrop on. Equal parts the of smart, funny, and a little bit scandalous.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Every week, Heather will bring you an unapologetic take on the headlines, the trends, and the cultural moments everyone's texting about.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

And Terry will deliver insider beauty, health and wellness insights you won't find on TikTok.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Together, we'll tell the stories, spill the secrets, and share the hacks that keep life, marriage, and everything in between. Feeling fresh and fun.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

We may live in a gated community, but there's zero gatekeeping here and plenty.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Of did they just say that?

[Oliver Hudson]

Moments.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Listen to between us on the iHeartRadio.

[Danielle Fishel]

App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

[Brooks Nader]

Now hold up.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. Then it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

[Oliver Hudson]

I mean, do you believe him?

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or Wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hello, it's Danielle Fishel Ryder Strong and.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Will Friedle from Pod Meets World and we're bringing you Viva Las Content.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's right, we are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Wait, we're back in Vegas?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Tell me why.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency, it's Sphere, of course.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

We sat down with Kevin Richardson and AJ McLean just minutes before they took the stage.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

And our very own Will Friedle basically became the newest member of the band.

[Oliver Hudson]

Boy band, please.

[Danielle Fishel]

Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's Carrot Top, baby.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

And finally, we all L O V her.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Ashley Simpson Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold out Vegas residency.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss.

[Oliver Hudson]

Listen to Pod Meets World on the.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Oliver Hudson]

And how did they deal with all of this? You know what I'm saying? Like, this is a life that they had never even expected to see, let alone be in on tv.

[Brooks Nader]

Honestly, they're so supportive. Like, they were all like, my grandma fixed the house up for weeks and was in the garden herself, like, and she like, boiled the crawfish. All my uncles came boiled the crawfish. They were like all hands on deck.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

And they were so funny because, like, they don't understand how this TV business works. Like my grandparents and their big hosts. So she's like, to all the camera people, you know, are supposed to, like, it's the third wall. Like, we're not supposed to pretend that they're there or whatever. We became very close with the crew, but like, when we're working, like, we're not. So my grandparents, like, put that camera down. Like how fish and yelling at them and they're like, you have to work. And she's like, oh, no, you've been working all day. And they're like, hot. We're. Our 12 hours are almost up. Like, they just don't get it. And they're so, they're so hospitable and excited. Like my mom, for instance, we have this house in LA that we're renting and, you know, we have this party and my mom rocks in with a backpack yeti cooler with her frozen gumbo, like on ice, like that she frozen with. And she's like, I got to get this in the freezer. Like, we had all these people over, and we're like, okay, the dad.

[Brooks Nader]

Dad.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, Dad. I gotta meet dad.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

All right, come meet. Or he has this epic podcast.

[Nader Family Dad]

How you doing, man?

[Oliver Hudson]

Hey, dad. How are you, man?

[Nader Family Dad]

I'm great.

[Oliver Hudson]

Look at you. Look at this. Look at this handsome, handsome man.

[Nader Family Dad]

Yeah, I appreciate it. I like this guy.

[Oliver Hudson]

Already a handsome man. That's crazy. I mean, we were talking to your girls. You were a young man when you had these girls. You and I are basically the same age. Age. I have three kids, but I have 17, 15, and 12.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Oh, you're actually a young. A young dad, too.

[Oliver Hudson]

I was 30. I was 29.

[Nader Family Dad]

That is young. What are your boy? Girl. What do you have?

[Oliver Hudson]

Two boys and a little girl.

[Nader Family Dad]

Okay. Awesome, man.

[Oliver Hudson]

Wilder, Bodie and Rio.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

I love those names.

[Nader Family Dad]

Yeah, you got the girl in, man. The girl is the key.

[Danielle Fishel]

We.

[Oliver Hudson]

We. Yeah. It was a pursuit, I'll tell you that. It was crazy. We had the two boys. We decided to go for the third girl with the third kid, hoping it was a girl, and we got lucky.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

I love that girl. Dads are the best.

[Brooks Nader]

Only girls.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah. He got a man.

[Nader Family Dad]

A man without daughters lives half a life.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Nader Family Dad]

You're gonna have a whole life.

[Oliver Hudson]

Let me ask you a question, though. Were you trying to have a boy?

[Nader Family Dad]

You know, once we had a couple of girls, and then we love the idea of them being close in age and having sisters with each other. And so by the time this little thing came along, we were thrilled that it was another girl. So I could not be happier. Absolutely.

[Brooks Nader]

They had boys.

[Nader Family Dad]

It makes it simpler, too.

[Brooks Nader]

It makes.

[Nader Family Dad]

It didn't have to have a boy to clutter up, you know, it was just.

[Oliver Hudson]

No, I know, I know. Oh, you had boy names already picked up.

[Brooks Nader]

They did.

[Nader Family Dad]

Ah, yeah, we probably did.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

My name is a boy name.

[Brooks Nader]

It's like Jonah or something.

[Nader Family Dad]

Oh, Brooks could have known either one.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

That's right. Because they actually never found out the gender with all four of us. They just had a right.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, yeah, I did that. We did that as well. Yeah. It's the last great secret. It's the last great secret.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

I think that's. You guys are gonna be best friends.

[Oliver Hudson]

No, we should.

[Nader Family Dad]

Everyone should be surprised. I mean, how often do you get to be surprised with something like that?

[Oliver Hudson]

Never. Never.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Sweet. That you didn't find out. I love that.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. No. So how do you. How are you? How did you deal with your girls? Sort of not bucking who you guys are necessarily, your sort of conservative nature, but being themselves, Letting them sort of expand and be who they are. I mean, was that tough for you?

[Nader Family Dad]

Well, I mean, certain, certain times are tough. Whenever they make decisions that you know then. Then are painful or they have consequences or whatever. You hate to see your kid have to deal with that. But the goal was always independence. We want them to be independent, make their own decisions, live their own life. And family is the hill we die on. Doesn't matter what choices you make. It all comes down to the family. We love our family, our girls, no matter what. And that'll always be the case.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

So when I got divorced, yeah, that was the worst for them. He was my ex husband. He was like, I have to say goodbye.

[Oliver Hudson]

Clothes.

[Nader Family Dad]

I like him. I still like him. I wish him the best. But you guys were on a different path and that's fine. So that was, that was.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

He did roll with the p. Is Oliver. I told Oliver that I got the brunt of it. Oliver's also the eldest sibling and I am the punishment. And like the just you guys really being hard on me because I was okay.

[Nader Family Dad]

We were hardest on Brooks either. Well, you know, you're a young parent and you're learning how to be a parent, so you're going to err on the side of strict and you know, hey, you got a toe.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

By the time this one came along, it was a lesbian and everything.

[Nader Family Dad]

We were barely barely aware that she was in the house. Was very independ and early on and very responsible. At least we thought she would. She was responsible most of the time. Very responsible.

[Oliver Hudson]

Of course. Well, as a parent, it's hard because you never want your children to be in pain or hurting in any way. And you want to do everything that you can to sort of wrap your arms around them and take it away at the same time. They need to go through what they need to go through.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

To callous, to build character. To know that they can get through that, you know.

[Nader Family Dad]

Absolutely true. There's no other way, no other way to learn those lessons and, and mature.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, no, I know.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Parenting lesson. Oliver and brother. I love this.

[Oliver Hudson]

And how is it being on camera?

[Brooks Nader]

He was a star.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

You loved it. It was fun.

[Nader Family Dad]

Yeah, it was a little awkward. You know, reality tv, it's a little awkward because you, you, you're there, you're having dinner or whatever. You don't want it to be boring and so, you know, you boring dad. No, I'm saying me. I'm saying me. And so dad was hilarious.

[Brooks Nader]

He has just so many one liners.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

And also, by the way, I'm not fully prepared, but I've started to get them in LA the past few days. We've been out all the Delf commentary, which I told you what that means.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yep. But he did. Oh, there he goes.

[Brooks Nader]

Obviously not saying that.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

That's like a thing that people are saying about you, and it's gross. It's disg.

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, he is a d. Are you kidding me? Look at him.

[Nader Family Dad]

Okay, guys, I'm out of here.

[Oliver Hudson]

He's a. That's a handsome man right there.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

He is adorable. Sarah Jane did say the other day, sorry, dad, you might want to leave this one. But we do have taste. Our taste is around 50s.

[Brooks Nader]

We're the only single sisters and we like older gallivanting around.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

And sometimes we like a personality more than a look on a guy. And Jane goes, when we were in Ibiza, she goes, we need a new rule. We can't anyone that's uglier than Dad. I was like, like, how are we gonna do that?

[Oliver Hudson]

That's not possible.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Not possible.

[Oliver Hudson]

No, he. He. He looks like. Like Superman, you know, his face, he's got the. He's got the wave, you know, he's insane.

[Brooks Nader]

We need to get him a hair deal. His hair is like.

[Oliver Hudson]

He's got amazing hair.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Oliver, I was just gonna say you have a lot of hair. I can tell. Oh. Oh, my God, you've been. Damn, Oliver. Been holding out on us with that lot.

[Oliver Hudson]

A lot of hair. Well, your dad is fucking awesome. I love that, man.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

But we've got all the Beverly Hillbillies trickling out of the house right now.

[Oliver Hudson]

So are you renting a house in la? For how long?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

I mean, just for a couple weeks, like you are. We come out here, we're doing all of our fun promo, and we love la, you know, we. We just now recently started to get to spend time here, and I love it.

[Oliver Hudson]

What part of LA are you in?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

We're in Truesdale Estates. Beverly.

[Brooks Nader]

Exact address in Bev Hills.

[Oliver Hudson]

So when you were in New York City and you were modeling, did you go on, obviously casting for Sports Illustrated? Right? I mean, it was just like you were doing shit and then Sports Illustrated casting, and then bang, all of a sudden you're in the. In the magazine.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

But actually, mine was a little unconventional because I was signed to, like, a prominent modeling agency. You know that lots of their models were in Sports Illustrated. And how it works with Sports Illustrated is like, there's the New York casting for, like, the supermodels, like the Gigi Hadid's, whatever. And your agent Sends like you and they take like a list of 10 and then they pick a few models and then they opened up. When I first got into it, an open casting call so that anybody on earth can just stand in line for 10 hours and get a magazine. But my agency, you know, when I, when I was with them, I was like, okay, these are my goals and this is my dream is being Sports Illustrated. And they literally like laughed in my face. Three agents and they were like, that's hilarious. That's really hard to get into. And you're from Louisiana, you just started modeling, so that's a joke. And I was like, okay. And then I went home and I opened up Instagram and they were like sports illustrators hosting an open casting in Miami. I had no money, I had like no plan. I just booked a one way ticket to Miami with my mom, with my, I made my mom come with me and we stayed in this shitty hotel room on Ocean Drive or whatever and it was so loud. I remember we didn't sleep a wink, but we waited in line all day and she was so supportive. And I progressed through all the rounds and ended up being featured in the magazine and then became a rookie and then, you know, did it for a few years. Then on my fifth year is when I got the COVID So I obviously had to send my agency a little signed cover copy and be like, well, obviously no longer with them. But I think it motivated me to like, you know, because you know how it is in Hollywood. It's like you can have the best agent, this and that, but you're never going to get that job. That's way too ridiculous. Yeah, I wasn't familiar with, I was like, I thought if you had an agent you could get your foot in the door, but just goes to show you have to do it yourself, you know?

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. And then from that, that sort of set that, that sort of sets you up essentially.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah, that kind of was like my entry into the industry, I think and like Introduction to the World and you know, they're the best and I love them. I just did my like 8th year so I do feel like a 50 year old now.

[Oliver Hudson]

Sarah, are you, correct me if I'm wrong, but are you into, are you into non profit stuff as well?

[Brooks Nader]

Yes, yes.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. Like you're, Was it your mother?

[Brooks Nader]

Oh, no. So our dad works for your dad?

[Oliver Hudson]

Yes. So do you think you were. That was instilled in you sort of from him?

[Brooks Nader]

I mean, definitely. I feel like we like had family devotionals every day and like every morning at our 7am breakfast, it was like, these are the rules for school. Take care of your sisters. Love God, like, have fun. What is it? Love and serve, like verses and all that. And so we were just instilled to like serve our community.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

And like even like when we mowed lawns or whatever, we had to tithe or like sin.

[Brooks Nader]

Yeah, we had to do $10 like.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

For the time we were like working little babysitting jobs. We had like our parents would take the cash and be like, okay, this percentage is going to the church. Like from day one. That was what we were taught.

[Brooks Nader]

And we did a lot of just like community stuff in our hometown and volunteering and stuff like that. And I just kind of saw like, also my parents are so happy and they don't care about like fame, money, like any of that. And I feel like there's just a level of fulfillment that comes from like, like addressing the problems of the world, like to. Not to sound cliche, but you can't get anywhere else. And then after college, like I went to a liberal arts school, Fordham. And so we talk a lot about like just the problems with society and everything. And it just really motivated me to get involved in that space.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's great. I mean, amazing. Are you specifically involved in a certain space of non profit?

[Brooks Nader]

So I work for this organization, isr. It's Influencer Social responsibility. It's like corporate social responsibility, but for celebrities, influencers, public figures. And we essentially connect. It's like a marketing agency for the nonprofit. So we'll connect them with like influential people who can share about it and host events. And it works both ways because like, if somebody who's a celebrity or influencer doesn't know how to get involved, which is like so common, then they can tell us what cause they care about and we can connect them with the right people and like put their name on an event and sort of like build out their philanthropic profile.

[Oliver Hudson]

That. That's great.

[Brooks Nader]

Yeah, it's awesome. We're so figuring it out.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, it's smart. It's smart. Well, because I mean, look, the influencer, right? That word is definitely in the last five years, has become something very real. You know, there's a ton of, ton of money to be made off of it, you know, I mean, essentially everyone's an influencer at some point. You know, even though I'm an actor, you know, I have my Insta, I have an Instagram and you know, I get sometimes paid to do shit. And you know, your voice can be influential.

[Brooks Nader]

Right?

[Oliver Hudson]

There's a lot of people who are just making a ton of money, but there's also a space for them to do some good. And a lot of them probably don't know how to enter that space because they're so sort of fame and money focused.

[Brooks Nader]

Right.

[Oliver Hudson]

But, you know, how about giving back a tad? Using that influence, using that fame to give back. That's smart. Very smart.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah. I hadn't heard of anybody doing that. And I feel like, like there's so many charities that also want to be connected to certain talent.

[Brooks Nader]

You guys figure that out. Like, it's so beneficial for everyone. And I also feel like in school for four years, I was learning about, like, how social media is going to, like, destroy us all and we're just going to like, capitalist, like society, essentially. And I was like, what's the answer? And they just like, never had one. And then this woman, Alex Bushman, came to me and was like, hey, would you want to get involved? And I was like, wait, this is like, perfect.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah. Sarah Jane was like the empath of our family. And like, when we were all at college or whatever, she was the one at like, all the protests in Louisiana, like, like, like gathering people for rallies and for good causes and, you know, especially in Louisiana. I was so proud of you, like, for doing that. Well, because, like, you know, people weren't, weren't, you know, paying attention to things like the Black Lives Matter matter movement and stuff like that. And she was gathering people and, you know, raising money, even just in high school for causes because, you know, in Louisiana, you're not really supposed to, like, rally or stand for anything. That made me proud of you to stand for something and, you know, for what's right and right. And I think you carried that onto, like, your life now. It's amazing.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's amazing.

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[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week. The ok Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

[Brooks Nader]

Now, hold up.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. Then it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

[Oliver Hudson]

I mean, do you believe him?

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So do we find out if this person, his boyfriend, really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the okay Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hello, it's Danielle Fishel, writer strong, and.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Will Friedle from Pod Meets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's right, we are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2.2k content.

[Oliver Hudson]

Wait, we're back in Vegas?

[Brooks Nader]

Tell me why.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency, it's Sphere, of course.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

We sat down with Kevin Richardson and AJ McLean just minutes before they took the stage.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

And our very own Will Friedle basically became the newest member of the band.

[Oliver Hudson]

Boy band, please.

[Danielle Fishel]

Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's Carrot Top, baby.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

And finally, we all L O V e her.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Ashlee Simpson Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold out Vegas residency.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss.

[Podcast Host (OK Storytime)]

Listen to Pod Meets world on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Oliver Hudson]

So how did this show come about? How did it all happen? I was with Jimmy Kimmel, right? I mean, he's producing, he's producing. He's a good man. I know Jimmy.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Such a great guy. We're honored to have his humor and brain and, you know, ideas involved in the show. Because he's so smart and amazing. But I think actually, speaking of Jimmy, the way that it all came about, it actually, people think that it just, like, came about in the last few months, but you know how shows work. It's been in the works for several years with Hulu. And it started because we met Jimmy's agent, baby doll James Dixon, and he was like, you girls are so entertaining. Like, we should put you guys on tv. And of course, we're like, we love that idea. You know, we weren't gonna say no to that. And so the, you know, they pitched it and Disney loved the idea. And so we. We started the process, but started filming, you know, you know how those things take a minute and how it happened. The stars all aligned at the right time, and Jimmy was like, this is great. I want to be involved. So we're lucky to have such a good group around us.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. And then was there when you were sort of having creative meetings about what the show is going to be. Obviously, you know, you guys are the stars. Casting is everything when it comes to reality tv. And obviously, even just knowing you guys for half an hour, you know, it's. You're very compelling women. You are. You are. I mean, you definitely. I can see why people would want to watch you guys, you know.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

You gonna watch, watch.

[Brooks Nader]

You better tune in.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'll watch. Look, you guys are all beautiful and smart and funny as. And you're unfiltered.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

You know, we got a viewer. Yeah, yeah, you got one.

[Oliver Hudson]

You got one, you got one. But are you guys ready for what it could possibly bring? You know what I mean? Like, as far as the fame goes, if this thing sort of takes off, is this something that you would welcome and want?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

I feel like we're like such open books. And I feel like when it comes to reality tv, I think the reason. One of the reasons people are gonna like it is because we are completely raw and authentic during it. Like, yeah, we're not done up with makeup. Like, we're in our sweats, we're crying. Pretty dumb.

[Brooks Nader]

We're going through.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

We just. We just watched it for the first time. Like, I could have been.

[Oliver Hudson]

How was that, though? How's watching that shit? Bad?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Grace and goes, okay, by season two, I'm gonna be completely plastic.

[Brooks Nader]

She's a list.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

I'm gonna have my whole face redone. Like, she goes, I will be plastic wheeled out of the hospital. We' she goes, we can film it, though. So, you know, I. I feel like.

[Brooks Nader]

I was nervous at first. Like, I'm Like, I don't. I'm kind of shy, and I was nervous to be, like, perceived and all that. But at the end of the day, like, what we're realizing. And my parents, too, they were like, I don't know about this. Like, my dad's a financial advisor in Baton Rouge. He was like, what are my clients gonna think with?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Like, they're like 70 years old. Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Brooks Nader]

But I think during the filming process especially, and even just watching it last night, like, we're all. We're all, like, each other's best friends. And honestly, I don't care what anyone else thinks outside of these five people. So, yeah, it's like, we're all gonna stick together no matter what. And there are some of our.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Some of our mom, like, little quotes that we used to make fun of. I've stuck with, and I'm like, okay, those make sense. If I used to, like, tell her a lie or be like, at school, in high school, so and so saying this about me, and she's like, well, you know the truth.

[Brooks Nader]

We know the truth.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

You know the truth. I mean, that's. Is that true? Like, you know the truth. So I think that with things and rumors and this and that, it's like, well, I know the truth. Truth. So exactly. The truth will set you free not to quote the Bible. And, like, we just told our truth, and, yeah, you know, we're rolling with it.

[Oliver Hudson]

What is. Was there an angle that was talked about? Meaning, like, yeah, we're just gonna film you guys, but, you know, what is the day to day if you're gonna pitch the show? You know, it's not just the Nader sisters gone wild.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

I mean, maybe it kind of is like, Bad Girls Club or something.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Brooks Nader]

Spring breakers. Eyes, right? We definitely knew we wanted to show every aspect of our lives, like, career. I'm young model doing my philanthropy stuff. Brooks is, like, at the top of the modeling world right now, like, crushing it, getting these new opportunities. You're welcome.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Honor, boss.

[Brooks Nader]

And then our other. So we each have different careers. One of us, Mary Holland, was in the finance world. She worked at Deutsche Bank.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

They went quitting and started with.

[Brooks Nader]

And so we have career, we have love life. We're single.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

But I also think the premise of the show in general is, like, you know, people are saying, like, it's swamp people meets, like, Beverly Hillbillies meets Sex in the City. Like, it's like all of this come together. And I think the way that the show starts off, which is true, is I'm fresh Off of a divorce. I was with the same person 18 to 27. Thought I was going to be with that person forever. It didn't work out. And so here we are. I'm moving back in with the whole family in New York City in SoHo, and let's be all. And hot and fun and 20s and unhinged and everything that comes with it. I had a boyfriend at the beginning of the show, and then you see that all unravel.

[Brooks Nader]

And, yeah, they weirdly, like, didn't have to fabricate or, like, plan anything because it is so chaotic for sisters that are so close, living in the same city, you move in together.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

And they had to, like, bring it back. The producers, they're like, girls. Like, it's getting to be. We can't even catch it all. Like, there's blood over here. There's a weed. There's tears.

[Oliver Hudson]

Blood weaves. Blood weaves and tears. That's a good title for an episode. Blood weaves.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Oh, my God, I love that blood weave. There's all of them in that. In the. There's also shots and OIC and pregnancy test. I'm rambling, but there's a lot talk.

[Brooks Nader]

About, like, some real shit, too, that I be, like, refreshing.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Unfiltered.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Just men.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. And you guys are single?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah, sure are. That's what I put it on the pod.

[Oliver Hudson]

How's that going?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Great.

[Brooks Nader]

Great summer.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

I don't know how I'm gonna ever be with someone, because, like, together every night.

[Brooks Nader]

And, like, we don't approve of anyone.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

I mean, literally, like, in this summer, I have, like, a couple flings going on right now. And, like, it was. Would be the three of us. And she's like, excuse me. It's like, it's not cool. I shouldn't have said that, but it's true.

[Oliver Hudson]

And why. Why old men? You know? I mean, look. Look, I'm. I'm an old man. So I. I think I. I, like, I don't mind it. I'm too young for you. I'm. I'm below 50.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah, we are way too. You're a spring chicken, bro.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm spring chicken.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

We don't know. We always ask that because we're like, dad is so perfect. We don't have daddy issues. But where does this all stem from that we need older men's approval?

[Brooks Nader]

I don't know. Like, for me, like, I like girls, too. So the girls, it doesn't matter. The age.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Not like old girls.

[Brooks Nader]

Girls.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

That's a whole. You're, like, hot young models.

[Brooks Nader]

Yeah, no, no, no. I mean, so. But guys, I don't know what it is. No, no, I don't know.

[Oliver Hudson]

What?

[Danielle Fishel]

Old girl?

[Brooks Nader]

There's no old girl. Don't describe any girl like that. Okay? I don't know. You tell me.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

We don't know what's wrong with us. We're about to get checked though, by some sort of a doctor or witch doctor because we don't know where this comes from. I mean, actually though, I have a youngie on my roster, you know.

[Brooks Nader]

Oh, you do?

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, you do?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Well, actually, two youngies. 23, 24 too.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, those are youngies, baby.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

They're perfect.

[Brooks Nader]

But guys like my age, it's like stupid.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, yeah, right? So there's a maturity level.

[Brooks Nader]

Yeah, I mean, have you seen with.

[Oliver Hudson]

Us old, with us old guys?

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah, you finally start to mature at 50.

[Oliver Hudson]

It's like finally happening.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Happening. Yeah, I just think that they're like more. I, I'm more impressed by the 50 year olds. I mean, because they're funnier and they've lived life and they've experienced things, but.

[Brooks Nader]

Part of me is also like, like, like halfway through when I'm doing that, I'm like, you know, you're doing them. I'm like, wait, what's wrong with you though? That like.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I was a baby somebody 20 years. Really?

[Brooks Nader]

Zero.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's okay. It's okay to be weird and up. Like we all are.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Right. By the way, my dad goes, I have one rule with these guys. We go, what? He goes, I don't want to have to call them, sir. Like, I don't want you to be.

[Brooks Nader]

With a 60 year old.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

I'm like, hi, sir, nice to meet you. And I go, that's, that's pretty high chances that that's going to happen. He's like, are you kidding me? Dad's like, what's wrong with the next generation of actors and athletes? Why don't we go for those? Like, what about this guy showing me? I'm like, dad, sweet, fine.

[Oliver Hudson]

He's just worried. I know he's worried you're gonna. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna, you're gonna bring home a peer, you know what I mean? Oh God.

[Brooks Nader]

We asked like, do you have any mentors, by the way, that like, we.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Want the older generation of yours. But also I go, dad, but then like, you guys can bond over movie quotes and like the same songs and like you guys can talk about all that. I don't have to pretend I know about this old western movie from the 20s.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's funny. All right, cool. Well, I'm excited for you guys.

[Brooks Nader]

Thank you. We're so excited. We'll have you over for gumbo later today.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm down for some gumbo.

[Brooks Nader]

Okay.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

All right, Oliver. Thank you.

[Oliver Hudson]

Later, girls. You're the best. Thank you.

[Brooks Nader]

You.

[Sarah Jane Nader]

Bye.

[Oliver Hudson]

The Nader girls. Oh my God. That's fun. These are crazy. Oh, my God. They're crazy, but they're awesome. Oh, my. The dad. The dad. I mean, it takes. He's got four of them. I have one. Rio is already at 12, like liking boys. And this summer a boy asked for her number. And then, you know, because she just got a phone and then he gave her. She gave him his number. And I'm like, rio, what the fuck? I mean, you know, it's this weird thing that comes over me. And maybe men, I don't know when their daughters start to enter this phase where it becomes about boys and boys are interested as someone like the Nader pop cop, you know, who is a conservative man, who then is watching his daughter sort of grow up into what they become, which obviously they're very successful and they know how to parlay. You have to be strong as a man to be like, all right, it, you know, I mean, imagine your daughter. Imagine my daughter at 24 bringing home a 50 year old man who's my age. I mean, how do you deal with that? That I would find God too. I would have to find God if that was the case. So maybe if that happens, I gotta call him. Maybe he'll baptize me. All right, I'm out.

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[Brooks Nader]

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