Extra! Extra! With Derek Hough

Summary

Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson

Episode: Extra! Extra! With Derek Hough — October 13, 2025
Guest: Derek Hough

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Episode Overview

In this lively and heartfelt episode of Sibling Revelry, Oliver Hudson (with some appearances by Kate Hudson) sits down for a candid, free-flowing conversation with the renowned dancer, TV host, and judge Derek Hough. Together, they explore Derek’s family and sibling dynamics (especially his bond with sister Julianne), his transition to fatherhood, the harrowing health challenges faced by his wife, and how these experiences have shaped his perspective.
Derek also dives into his evolving career — from Dancing With The Stars and performing on stage, to becoming a judge and the fresh challenge of hosting Extra! The discussion is a mix of vulnerability, philosophy, and plenty of laughs about the realities of art, masculinity, and dance as a life practice.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Ever-Evolving Sibling Bond

• Working with Siblings on TV

  • Derek and his sister Julianne Hough both work on Dancing With The Stars, but surprisingly, their jobs keep them apart:

    “We actually— we, like, never see each other, actually. We literally see each other on set for, like, what you see on TV.”
    — Derek Hough, [05:34]

  • Their limited interaction on set has preserved their relationship, despite both being highly involved in the same show.

• Growing Up Surrounded by Sisters

  • Derek describes being the only boy among four sisters and how it shaped him:

    “I realized that I definitely lived in my— I actually lived more in my feminine energy, if you will, which I think served me really well… But as I got older, I was like, oh, interesting…”
    — Derek Hough, [27:03]

  • He humorously struggles with “guy talk,” having always been more at ease with women.

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Fatherhood, Worry, and Trauma

• First-Time Father at Forty

  • Derek opens up about his excitement and nerves as he and wife Hayley expect their first child:

    “Number one, man. This is number one. It’s crazy. I know. I can’t believe it. Forty years old, and I’m crazy starting.”
    — Derek Hough, [06:31]

  • He acknowledges his newfound tendency to worry, especially after his wife’s medical ordeal.

• The Impact of Trauma — Hayley’s Brain Emergency

  • Derek recounts with vulnerability the night his wife suffered a massive brain bleed while they were performing on stage:

    “We were on stage in front of 4,000 people … she didn’t come out… Meanwhile, she’s literally dying on the side of the stage.”
    — [10:45]

  • The episode captures the terror, the medical decisions in the moment, and the improbable recovery Hayley made—ending with Derek’s deep gratitude:

    “Her getting up to go to the bathroom was, like, the best day of my life… there’s all these amazing, like, triumphs that you experience in the simplest of things.”
    — [12:19]

  • Derek and Hayley have even made a documentary of the experience, recently submitted to Sundance:

    “We actually filmed a documentary about this… We just actually submitted it to Sundance like three days ago.”
    — [16:22]

  • He reflects on how this trauma has changed his emotional pattern:

    “I worry, and I never really considered myself like that. But after Hayley had her, you know, her brain surgery, I think it just amplified everything…”
    — [08:00]

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Artistry, Masculinity, and Dance

• Finding and Balancing Masculine/Feminine Energy

  • Being raised by women lent Derek a deep familiarity with ‘feminine energy’—helpful in artistry, but he’s also learned to seek grounding balance in more traditionally masculine pursuits:

    “It’s not like binary … but … to do things that just felt more grounded, I suppose, because I can get really, like, you know, up here in this creative space constantly…”
    — [28:59]

  • Nature, especially the mountains of Utah, provides that grounding:

    “I love the outdoors… That’s the thing that really keeps me still.”
    — [29:33]

• The Transformational Power of Dance

  • Derek is passionate about the broader life value of dance for kids and teens:

    “It’s never, ever, ever, ever wasted, because the discipline, the awareness — all these things that you learn, you will take with you for the rest of your life, no matter what.”
    — [32:51]

  • Both discuss the strictness and discipline of dance teachers, with Oliver expressing appreciation for the tough love:

    “It’s the only place now where, like, that discipline — you can be stern… I love how strict these teachers are.”
    — Robbie/Oliver Hudson, [33:25]

• The Joy and Challenge of Performance and Creation

  • On performing:

    “When I’m actually dancing, performing … I truly feel like the most—sounds cheesy—like connected. I feel connected to myself… The music syncs up and your body syncs up together…”
    — [37:34]

  • On the creative struggle:

    “The creation process can be torture… There’s this expectation—like, you know, you’ve won four Emmys and people are looking at you… those fears start to creep in and I start to get a little bit in my head about things…”
    — [38:40]

• Dance Chemistry & Relationships on DWTS

  • The duo joke about the perceived intimacy between dancers — and how, to professionals, it’s just movement:

    “From the outside looking in, when you watch me dancing, it feels really intimate … but for us as dancers, it’s really not … We’re, like, focused on the mechanics.”
    — [40:19]

  • Yet the environment still fosters real connections, especially among celeb contestants:

    “When you have these sort of celebrities … moving their body with someone as they’ve never moved it before, there’s something that is intoxicating about that. There’s no doubt.”
    — Robbie/Oliver Hudson, [41:50]

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New Career Challenges: Judging & Hosting

• Becoming a Judge on Dancing With The Stars

  • Derek tries to be supportive but real:

    “I try to be encouraging… and also give some practical notes that they can actually work on the next week. That’s what I’d want to hear… But being a judge is not a popular position… You can’t win, dude.”
    — [50:07]

  • On pressure from producers:

    “I’ve had some producers say, like, hey, can you, like, you know, get in there a little bit more? And I’m like… I’m gonna be me. Because if I try to be something I’m not, people are gonna smell it in a million, a hundred, and it’s just gonna look… tacky, honestly.”
    — [51:37]

• Taking on Extra! and the Art of Hosting

  • Derek describes being nervous but excited about his new hosting gig:

    “Three weeks in. It’s crazy, because when they first came to me about it, I was like… I don’t see myself doing that… But I’m also just a fan… I love it.”
    — [52:29]

  • The learning curve of interviewing Hollywood’s biggest stars:

    “My first week was, like, Margot Robbie, The Rock, Emily Blunt, Jessica Chastain, Reese Witherspoon. I was like…guys, my first week freakin’ A!”
    — [53:45]

  • On learning to voice-over:

    “I’m in there… they’re like, a little more energy… Coming up! And I was like, are you sure? I sound like a Muppet or something.”
    — [54:34] “I’m literally feel like Ron Burgundy…”
    — [55:28]

  • He appreciates how his background makes guests more comfortable, paving the way for real conversations.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Trauma & Recovery
  “I was talking about a friend of mine that passed away, how fragile and precious life is … meanwhile, she’s literally dying on the side of the stage.”
  — Derek Hough, [11:10]

• On Moving Past Fear
  “Where your focus goes, your energy flows … you have to, like, trust me.”
  — Hayley (as relayed by Derek Hough), [18:26]

• On Dance Discipline
  “If hair’s out of place, they get mad at you … there’s a discipline there … it’s, like, get your shit together.”
  — Robbie/Oliver Hudson, [33:38]

• On Fatherhood Paranoia
  “I have 20, 25 nieces and nephews … I am, like, covering corners.”
  — Derek Hough, [09:13]

• On Sibling Energy
  “We kind of give each other, like, little, you know … riz each other a little bit…”
  — Derek Hough, [06:05]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Sibling Dynamic & Work on DWTS – [05:15-07:13]
• Fatherhood & Anticipated Fears – [07:13-09:59]
• Hayley’s Health Crisis & Recovery – [10:32-19:05]
• Childhood, Sibling Order, and Masculinity/Femininity – [25:44-29:14]
• Moving to London for Dance, Parental Sacrifice – [29:57-32:15]
• Importance of Dance Discipline for Kids – [32:51-35:31]
• What Dance Feels Like – [37:21-39:49]
• Chemistry on DWTS – [39:49-43:38]
• Judging Style and Challenges – [50:05-51:58]
• New Hosting Gig on Extra! – [52:29-58:26]

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Tone & Atmosphere

Light-hearted yet deeply honest, the episode is classic Sibling Revelry: plenty of teasing, raw confession, and relatable family and career anecdotes. Derek’s openness about worry, trauma, and joy offers inspiration, while Oliver’s wit and personal fatherhood/dance stories keep things playful.

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For Listeners

This episode is a treat for fans curious about the realities behind the glitzy world of dancing, the complexity of sibling and married life, and how trauma can fundamentally shift your perspective. Derek’s journey from performer to parent and host is full of both hard-earned wisdom and genuine humor.

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Ended [59:34].

Transcript

[Derek Hough]

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[Kate Hudson]

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[Robbie Daw]

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[Robbie Daw]

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[Robbie Daw]

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[Kate Hudson]

We wanted to do something that highlighted.

[Robbie Daw]

Our relationship and what it's like to be siblings.

[Derek Hough]

We are. A sibling revelry.

[Kate Hudson]

No, no.

[Robbie Daw]

Sibling revelry.

[Kate Hudson]

Don't do that with your mouth.

[Robbie Daw]

Sibling revelry. That's good. Oliver Hudson reporting live from Rules of Engagement. No, this show is called Sibling Revelry. I'm not gonna do much of a preamble here because I'm all preambled out now because we've got Derek Huff waiting in the waiting room. I've known the man for a minute now. He's a good man. He's a handsome man. He's a host, he's a dad, he's a husband. He's the number one judge on DW2s Dancing with the Stars. I think that's how to say it works with his sister. There's a lot to talk about. Just bring him in. Let's get to this. Yo, what up?

[Derek Hough]

What's up, dude?

[Robbie Daw]

How are you, man?

[Derek Hough]

How's it going? I'm good, man.

[Robbie Daw]

I'm good, good, good. We finally made it happen. I'm happy. Thank you for coming on, dude.

[Derek Hough]

Thanks, brother. I appreciate you, man, but you've been.

[Robbie Daw]

Well, man. You're killing it right now, dude.

[Derek Hough]

I'm just, you know, I'm just doing what I can, man.

[Robbie Daw]

I know. While I can't, I know I'm with you.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah. Before I have this baby and I'm like. And then it's all gonna change.

[Robbie Daw]

No, I know, I know. I Know. Well, the hustle is real, but you're doing extra right now. You're the judge on Dancing with the Stars, right? This is what we're doing now.

[Derek Hough]

Yes, that's right.

[Robbie Daw]

And your sis is hosting.

[Derek Hough]

That's right. Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

Do you guys ever get sick of each other? I mean, you know, it's like you're together all the time. You're doing shit all the time. My sister and I the same. You know, we do this show all the time, but is it ever, like. All right, Jules, like, let's just take a break.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, you know, it's funny, actually. It's weird because we actually. We, like, never see each other, actually.

[Robbie Daw]

You don't?

[Derek Hough]

No, we really don't.

[Robbie Daw]

We.

[Derek Hough]

We literally see each other on set for, like, what you see on tv. We don't see each other. She's off in her hosting world over there. Yeah. The judges are over here. So we actually don't even interact when we're on the show. There's a few moments where we do, like, a few selfies or something during the show, but we, like, actually never see each other, so it's kind of funny.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah, but we also.

[Derek Hough]

We kind of give each other, like, little, you know, I don't know, kind of riz each other a little bit, you know? Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah. That's the wrong word, but, no, the riz is a whole different word.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, it's just different Riz, man.

[Robbie Daw]

Yo, yo. She's got Riz. He's got Riz.

[Derek Hough]

As. As I'm learning, as I'm trying to keep up, man, I'm trying to keep up. Up.

[Robbie Daw]

Well, you're is. So this is number one. This is your baby. Your baby's number one.

[Derek Hough]

Number one, man. This is number one. It's crazy. I know. I can't believe it. 40 years old, and I'm crazy starting. So.

[Robbie Daw]

Good for you, though.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, man, I'm excited. How many do you have?

[Robbie Daw]

I have three. They just came home. As my dogs are barking, I'm like. I'm, like, buried in my. You know, in every house, there's a room that's supposed to be a room of some kind, but it turns into a storage room. Yes. You know, there's everywhere.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

And so when my kids come home, you know, I've got nowhere to go. I've got nowhere to go. So now I'm in the storage room. But, Yeah, I have 18. I have 15, and I have 12.

[Derek Hough]

Amazing, man. That's incredible. That's amazing.

[Robbie Daw]

It's. It's. It's Nutty. How you feeling? How's it feel?

[Derek Hough]

I feel good. It's funny. Like, I feel like sometimes I'm like, you know, I'm doing things, and then I look over and I see my pregnant wife, her beautiful belly starting to pop. Crazy. Her. Her belly button. Just yesterday, I just noticed it started to kind of like.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah, yeah. Spread out a little bit. I was like, whoa.

[Derek Hough]

You know, Felt the baby kick. Actually, the first time I felt the baby kick, we were watching F1 in the movie theater, and it was really loud. I was. I was like, man, is it maybe okay? And then Haley was like, babe, Jill. And, you know, the baby's like, hey, keep it down out there.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Derek Hough]

Um, but it was. It's amazing, man. I'm excited about it. I'm excited.

[Robbie Daw]

Oh, I bet. I bet. Do you have any fear? Honestly? Like, is there any fear? Or is it just kind of like, you know what? I'm gonna roll with it?

[Derek Hough]

No, like, here's the thing. As I've gotten older, I've realized that I'm a worrier. I worry, and I never really considered myself like that. But after Haley had her, you know, her brain surgery.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

I think it just amplified everything a little bit where I'm a little bit more, like, cautious, you know? There was a moment when we're about to go on tour the day that we're about to go back out on tour after she, you know, 40% of her skull is missing. You know, she's got this massive plate in her head she wasn't supposed to survive. We're about to go on tour. We're dancing together. I'm already a nervous wreck, and I just hear a boom in the shower. And she had full. Slipped back and fell in the shower. And I look over, and she's like this. And she's like, it's okay. I caught myself. And I'm like. And it's weird. That moment kind of just is like this. To this day, when I get out of the shower, I, like, squeegee the floor, make sure there's no soap or conditioner on it. But I'm, like, already, like, like, paranoid about that. So now I'm like, okay with a child.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

I have 20, 25 nieces and nephews, and I am, like, you know, covering corners.

[Robbie Daw]

You've done it. Yeah. No, you. You've done it, right? You've done the nieces and the nephews, you know, but that. That there's always. The first one's always nutty because you Just want it to survive. You know what I mean?

[Derek Hough]

Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

It's just like, holy. What am I doing? You know, in the infant state stages anyway, you know, I remember with Wilder, my first one, you're just so, you know, there's a paranoia. There's love and there's paranoia there. It's all mixed. All emotions are just mixed together.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

You're walking. You're going in there every night, like, making sure the kid is breathing. Oh, my God. And then by the third one, it's just kind of like, man, okay, I'm sure she'll be fine. I'm sure she'll be fine, you know? Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

You got this. You got this here.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

Well, I mean, luckily, like, you know, we have a lot of friends and a lot of people who are like, okay, this is what you need. You, like, you know, if you need, like, to sleep a little bit more. Night nurse thing.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

Which is amazing because I think it back to, like, you know, my parents. Our parents, I'm sure.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

I mean, my mom had five kids. I'm like, oh, a night nurse. Like, what is that? You know? And, you know, so I feel fortunate that we're able to find a little bit of maybe some relief. We'll see. But I think I'm still gonna be up, like, freaking.

[Robbie Daw]

Of course. Of course.

[Derek Hough]

So.

[Robbie Daw]

With your wife, man, that's crazy. That's right. I forgot about that when that went down. I mean, that is a scary, scary moment for you guys. What was it. How do. How was it even recognized?

[Derek Hough]

We were on stage. We were on stage in front of 4, 000 people, and we were at the end of the show, and she just was kind of doing this with her eye. Like, she's kind of, like, squinting. She's like. And then she starts, like, she's, you know, audibly was making discomfort, you know, noises like. And I thought it was her neck, because, you know, this is like.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

And so I'm protecting her neck as we're dancing, and we're just kind of keep moving forward and, you know, show must go on kind of thing, and just protecting her. And then we're supposed to come out for this moment. And she didn't come out. And I was like, that's weird. And the stage manager says, she's not coming out. I was like, okay. And then I just. You know, you're in front of this audience, so you're just kind of, like, talking and saying things. And the. The irony of it all was that in that moment, I'm Talking about a friend of mine that passed away. And I'm talking about how fragile and precious life is and how it's fleeting and, you know, that we cherish the ones that we love. And. And meanwhile, she's literally dying on the side of the stage.

[Robbie Daw]

Like, actually in that moment, like, it.

[Derek Hough]

Was that bad, it was that acute that she was at that point having seizures and she doesn't remember anything. She was. She was on stage, and then she's. You know, all this crazy, scary stuff happened. The ambulance rushing to hospitals, all these different things. And here's a crazy fact, actually, later on. First of all, the doctor was like, you know, it's not good. It's very severe.

[Robbie Daw]

And.

[Derek Hough]

Even if she survives because it's that bad, she's. She probably isn't gonna be the same person that, you know, because, you know, this kind of brain bleed, this kind of swelling, paralysis, speech impairment, you know, all these different things. So basically, you've lost the person that you knew. And we just got married, by the way, three months. Three months before that. But the crazy story about this, you know, fortunately, she's here. Everything was. Yeah, we had these amazing triumphs. But, you know, I talk about that time because it was, like, the hardest time and one of the best times ever, because all of a sudden, everything gets kind of wiped clean. And all of a sudden, her getting up to go to the bathroom was like the. The best day of my life. You know what I mean? It was like, this is the best day of my life. And then her, like, walking up the stairs was like the. The biggest triumph I've ever felt. So there's all these amazing, like, triumphs that you experience in the simplest of things. And then working her way back out to get on stage and. But the crazy thing was real fast was when we're at the theater, we had a decision to make. There's a hospital 10 minutes away in Washington D.C. and there's a hospital 35 minutes away. Obviously, we're like, let's go to the closest hospital because this is bad. Something's not good. And her eyes were dilated. One was. Was huge. One was pinpoint. So it was either a stroke or something brain related. So we. In that moment, we decided to go to the further hospital that was more about brain, but we didn't know. And basically down the line, about six months later, the doctor told me, he said, if you would have went to the other hospital, she would have. She would have died.

[Robbie Daw]

Really? Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

And because they didn't have. They didn't have the resources. They didn't have the right things to do the emergency surgery, and by the time they got her somewhere, it would have been too late. So it's like. It's like things. It's like things like that.

[Robbie Daw]

Was it. Was it an aneurysm?

[Derek Hough]

No, we actually. We don't know exactly what happened, really, but we think we do. At the beginning of that show, we actually hit heads really hard. Okay, but we've hit hard. We've hit heads hard. Before, it was nothing out of the ordinary, but we did. But our bells were rung.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

And we both were kind of looking at each other, but I. We think that's what it was because that's the kind of, you know, the hematoma, it was like an impact. It wasn't like. So luckily, in a way, luckily, it was that, because that means we know what happened and it's not going to happen again all of a sudden. Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

Wow. What an experience, man. What an experience. You know, I mean, it's so interesting going back to what you said, which is, you know, usually, you know, the person who goes through that situation and has to sort of relearn to walk or those small victories that you're talking about and how life becomes clear and perspective starts to sort of show itself in a beautiful way. It's usually attributed to the person who. Who would happen to. But we don't really hear about sort of the loved ones, you know, and how you yourself had that moment as well, meaning your perspective change. Things shifted for you. You know, life was sort of like you said, the slate was white, was wiped clean. And. And it was like, wow.

[Derek Hough]

It's.

[Robbie Daw]

It's these small things now that matter. Yeah, Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

I mean, it's. It was, you know, she. She talked about this because she basically was on stage, she blinked, and then she woke up in the hospital. Like, what happened? Missing half her skull and head shaved and, you know, face swelled up, was unrecognizable, and 70s staples in her head. And. And so she missed. She essentially missed, like, this, the scary part, if you will, you know, and so she actually. We actually, by the way, we actually filmed a documentary about this. We did, and we just actually submitted it to Sundance, like, three days ago.

[Robbie Daw]

Amazing.

[Derek Hough]

But a good friend of mine, his name is Jason Berg, you know, he's like, amazing director, does documentaries, and he. When we started to go to dance again, he's like, hey, can I come film this? The process for dancing again. And so anyway, we ended up doing it. We went back on Tour. She got back out on stage. It was this beautiful, like, triumphant moment. It was really beautiful. And. But. But she really, honestly, like, the way she moved through this whole thing was unbelievable, man. She was a smile on her face. There was no, like, poor me. It was just, this is my new reality.

[Robbie Daw]

This is what it is.

[Derek Hough]

And she was really strong for us, you know?

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

Crazy.

[Robbie Daw]

So how long was it before she recut? Before, like, incident and then recovery, and she's dancing again.

[Derek Hough]

Well, that was the miraculous part, is the doctor was like, it's going to take four or five months to just get the implant in because your brain is so swelled up. They had to leave the skull off.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

For a while. Well, he said that. He said it was going to be for a while. Yeah. And she literally looked at him. She's like, I'm gonna do it in two weeks. He's like, huh. Okay. You know, excuse me. Three months at least.

[Robbie Daw]

All right, dude.

[Derek Hough]

Two weeks to the day. He took the helmet off and he gasped. He went. He was, like, looking at her, like, confused, like, wait, what? Because obviously the skull concaves.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

And she's got this massive crater in her head, you know, now.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

The brains come down. And he goes, oh, my God, I can't believe this. And he said. I said, well, what do you think? Can we operate, you know, tomorrow? He goes, no, I said, can we operate today? Joking. He goes, how about tomorrow? I was like, oh, shoot. So, wow. From the incident to her back on stage was four months.

[Robbie Daw]

Wow, that's crazy.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, it was pretty extraordinary. And I, by the way, going back to being a warrior. Yeah, Yeah. I was. I was like, yeah, yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

She's got, like, a full, like, NFL helmet on and pads. You're like. She's like, I don't want to wear this. I'm like, I don't care. You're wearing this.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

Eagles helmet.

[Derek Hough]

But by the way, that. That's also the problem, though, is because if you're apprehensive and if you're. You're. You're focusing on what's gonna go wrong, you're. It's gonna go wrong because where your focus goes, your energy flows, and, like, you're focusing on the wrong things. And I was like. She told me that. She goes, babe, you have to. You have to come. You have to, like, trust me. And I was like, oh, okay. Okay.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah, yeah.

[Derek Hough]

So. Wow. Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

Crazy, dude. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. But amazing, you know, Really? I mean, to have gone through something like that. I mean, even just as far as just a relationship goes in the depth where you think, you think you're, you think you're deep and then you just, you can dig even deeper with something like that. It's just.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah. No, man, it was, it was a, I mean, we were able to watch this documentary last week at uta, this like, screening room and it was like, it was, it was really beautiful. You know, it was really cool to watch. Just to sit back and be like, whoa, that was, that actually happened. And then to think now about our, our child, you know, on, on its way and thinking like, wow, they get to see this moment in mom and dad's life, you know.

[Robbie Daw]

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[Robbie Daw]

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[Robbie Daw]

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[Robbie Daw]

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[Derek Hough]

Utah.

[Robbie Daw]

You grew up in Utah?

[Derek Hough]

Utah, man. Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

And you had multiple siblings?

[Derek Hough]

Four sisters. Grew up in Utah, Yeah. Only boy, you know, Where'd you.

[Robbie Daw]

Where were you in the pecking order?

[Derek Hough]

Three older sisters, myself, and then Julianne.

[Robbie Daw]

Okay.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, it was cool, man.

[Robbie Daw]

Surrounded by women.

[Derek Hough]

Completely surrounded by women. Honestly, like, I found as I got older, I was like, I find it really hard to talk to guys. Like, it's so much easier to like. I don't know why. I think growing up, I Was like, oh, talking.

[Robbie Daw]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Derek Hough]

I talked to a guy. I'm like, how did I do this? All right, Football. I don't know.

[Robbie Daw]

That's funny. You know, I wonder how do you think that actually sort of affected you? You know, I mean, you grew up with a bunch of sisters. Like, for a while, I just had mom and Kate because dad was out of the picture and Kurt wasn't there yet. So there's a lot of feminine energy.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

Sort of in my early life. And I, you know, I can sort of attribute some of my personality to that. And just the way that I. My. I don't know, maybe some sensitivities, maybe just some empathy. I don't know what. But I wonder if you can recognize any part of you that's like, oh, well, this is just because I grew up around 800 chicks.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah. So many. I. I think for me. And later, as I got, you know, older, actually, you know, I realized as you start to learn about certain, like, you know, feminine energy and masculine and all these different types of things, modalities and stuff, I realized that I definitely lived in my. I actually lived more in my feminine energy, if you will, which I think served me really well. And in certain forms of, you know, art and, you know, dance and creativity and. However, it's funny, like, with dancing. Dancing, actually, I feel I was. The way I, like, step into, like, my masculine energy, the way I felt super connected to my body. Like. Like, it's like, you know, if you don't play in sports or something like that, you just feel like, hey, like, you just connected to something. Yeah. But as I got older, I was like, oh, interesting. Like, and I would really notice it until this guy came into my life. It was my sister's husband. And he just was, like, a dude. He was just a dude because I was always around, like, artists and, like, creatives, and he was like, fish.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

Lift weights.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

And it was. There was something like. Just, like, refreshing about, like, oh, dang. I think I've, like, I need to, like, balance this out a little bit and just do some, like. Just stuff that isn't, like, in the world of, like, creating an art or. I just need to, like, do some just. Just some stuff that just feels disconnected to that to get back into that masculine energy a little bit more and then just. It's more balanced.

[Robbie Daw]

What did you do? Did you actually seek out, like, masculine endeavors?

[Derek Hough]

I mean, it's not like. It's like. It's not like binary, where it's like. It's like, this was masculine, but. But it did. I did feel a sense of like, you know, I don't know, just like, to do things that, like, just felt.

[Robbie Daw]

More.

[Derek Hough]

Grounded, I suppose, because I can get really, like, you know, up here and, you know, like, in this creative space constantly, and it's like, just turn it off. I got like, do something that's just like, disconnect that, you know.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's interesting. No, I know. I know what you mean. You know, it's just sort of rooting yourself a little bit more in. It's almost as quieting your mind sometimes too, you know?

[Derek Hough]

Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

And are you a nature dude?

[Derek Hough]

Totally.

[Robbie Daw]

You are?

[Derek Hough]

Yeah. Yeah. I love the outdoors. I mean, growing up in Utah.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah, that's what I figured.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah. I love. I love mountains. And that's. That's the thing that really, like, keeps me still. And then I lived in London for 10 years, so I kind of. You did this, like, city. City kid. I went to school there, and then I went back to Utah. I was like, oh, Utah is freaking gorgeous.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

I didn't know. I didn't realize where I was growing up. This is amazing, you know.

[Robbie Daw]

And what were you doing living in London?

[Derek Hough]

12 years old to 22, just.

[Robbie Daw]

Dan, were you dancing?

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, I moved in with my coaches. My dance coach did. Yeah. And moved out there by myself at.

[Robbie Daw]

The age of 10. You were by yourself, like 12?

[Derek Hough]

Yeah. And Julianne was 9. She went out to, like, at 9, 10 years old. And then. But we moved in with the family. Mark Ballas was on Dancing Stars as well. He was. We moved in with him and his family, his mom and dad.

[Robbie Daw]

How does that work, man? Like, you're so young. I mean, your parents. How do you. Yeah, how do you do that? Because they have to raise other children as well. Right.

[Derek Hough]

Well, you know, it was such a. It was such a unique time because my. My parents were right. Getting a divorce right in that moment. And so the house kind of was like this, like. It just kind of started to disjoint a little bit. Yeah. So we're kind of floating around a little bit. And also this. This opportunity came, and then all of a sudden we had, like, school and we had goals, we had competitions, we had lessons. We had this, like, sort of, like, regiment. And like, we want to become a champion. So that consistency and that, I don't know, it just. It just helped us as young kids, you know, to go. So that's where we really crafted, and we formed that, like, dancing core for so many years. And then. And honestly, I thank my mom and dad because that was. That was hard. It was hard to let us go. Yeah. It was only supposed to be, like, a few months, and then we.

[Robbie Daw]

I.

[Derek Hough]

We ended up loving it. And then they're like, all right, time to come home. And I was like, no.

[Robbie Daw]

Oh, really? Yeah. You're like, no, we're staying. I'm staying.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah. I was like, I'm about to.

[Robbie Daw]

I had.

[Derek Hough]

There's a competition coming up. I gotta train. I gotta be here and do this. And for 10 years, it was like this fight to. I wanted to stay, and they wanted me to come home because, like, can I raise you? You're my child. You know, and now. Now when I see my nieces and nephews, I was like. I was that young. I was 12 years old.

[Robbie Daw]

My daughter's 12. You know, I mean, I can't even imagine. I mean, I would be. I would be crushed.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah. And so. And so I actually have a lot of, like, later in life, I. I just have a lot of, like, empathy and appreciation for the sacrifice that, you know, they both had and. Yeah. You know, to allow that, you know, essentially, because it was a big sacrifice.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah. No. My daughter is obsessed with dance. You know, this is her first. It's her first year. She's on the team. Dance team at her. At her school. And so she's dancing, like, six days a week. You know, two. Two or three of the days are like three hours. You know, it's all different kind of kinds of dance. It's from lyrical to jazz to hip hop, the whole thing. And so she'll start competing in November, but she's just obsessed. And she's so beautiful. Her body so beautiful. She's so long. And it's just like. I mean, it's. For me, the pride that you have is just unbelievable. And to watch her and how graceful and amazing she is.

[Derek Hough]

And I love that, man. By the way, what's so great about dance? What's so great about dance? Um. And I'll say this again. In a class, if I'm teaching a class, I'm like, it doesn't matter if, like, you know, there'll be some people, there'll be, you know, kids in a class, and some. This is, like, what they want to do. This is a career. And that they'll take that path. And then some. This will be a chapter in their life, and then they'll do a lot of different things, but it's never, ever, ever, ever wasted, because the discipline, the Awareness. The. All these things that you learn, you will take with you for the rest of your life, no matter what. So I always encourage, you know.

[Robbie Daw]

Oh, yeah. You know what I love most, too? I love. I love how. I love how strict these teachers are. Yeah, it's like the only place now because I think we're just being coddled to death, you know, just generally.

[Derek Hough]

Sure.

[Robbie Daw]

But it's the only place now where, like, that discipline you can stern. It's like, you know, Rio's in the car doing her hair with the hairspray. It's ballet. And if. If hair's out of place, they get mad at you. I mean, you know, not overly crazy, but I'm saying there's a discipline there. It's like, get your shit together. You know, girls, this isn't working. You're not practicing enough. It's not working out. It's. You have to be better.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, I think it's great, man. I think having that guidance. And like you said. I love what you said, too, because it is true. We're sort of in this sort of, you know, this sort of, like, interesting phase or balance of like, okay, what's too hard, what's too strict, but what's not strict enough? Like, it's like finding that right balance. But I think that it is important to have that sort of standard and those, like, sort of, like perimeters to work within this confined. Because I feel like, you know, if it just becomes. I'm all about encouraging. I'm all about, like, sure, but. Of course. But that. But that. But I look back at my. My teaching and my time. I'm like. It was the times when I was, like, taken to the corner, being like, hey, you better and told off. That's when. That's when I was like, oh. And I. I figured it out, you know.

[Robbie Daw]

Of course. By the way, it's also because you're that good. Like, you're. You're too good to just wait to just off, essentially, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

No, that's awesome. I love that, man. I love it. Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

No, it's great. It's fun. It's fun for me, too. It's just my only kid who. Who. Who's actually regimented in some sort of an athlete, athletics into a sport. You know, my. My boys are. They down. They ski, they downhill, mountain bike, they're on dirt bikes, you know, motorcycles, this. This and that. They're heavily into golf now, but it's all individual stuff.

[Derek Hough]

Right.

[Robbie Daw]

And they didn't want to play team, you know, There was no competition. And so she's my. She's my first and only one now that is competing. And, you know, she has that sort.

[Derek Hough]

Of fire, you know, when you say competing, is it a part of the school team competition?

[Robbie Daw]

No, no, it's outside of school. It's a studio.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah. Oh, so did you go, like, to a convention?

[Robbie Daw]

Yes, she went to a convention last weekend. She was in a. At a convention Car.

[Derek Hough]

Got you. Got you. Cool, Cool. All right, awesome. Now, the reason why I say that, because I'm literally about to launch a convention competition.

[Robbie Daw]

Oh, you are?

[Derek Hough]

In December? Yeah, it's called Ovation.

[Robbie Daw]

Oh, that's cool.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, so it's sort of the first. It's going to be like a sort of a fusion convention competition with, like, contemporary.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

Ballroom and Latin.

[Robbie Daw]

Where are you doing it?

[Derek Hough]

We're doing seven cities the first year. First ones in Chicago in December.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

And then we'll do, like, you know, Miami and New York, and then, of course, Anaheim.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah, yeah.

[Derek Hough]

And then San Diego.

[Robbie Daw]

That's where Rio is, in Anaheim for this car thing.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah. Well, dude, listen, you guys. Dude, you actually come down. It's really. It's gonna be really, really, really. Oh, yeah, Toia. You know Robbie Blue, who's done, like, the Gap commercial.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah, yeah.

[Derek Hough]

He just won an Emmy and a vma. He's. He's one of the teachers as well. Like, it's gonna be pretty.

[Robbie Daw]

Oh, dude. Sick.

[Derek Hough]

G. Be pretty sick. Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

Oh, fun.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, man.

[Robbie Daw]

So great, dude.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

Bring, bring. I will, I will, for sure. So. So how do you get off on dancing? You know? I mean, what is it? What is the thing? You know, I mean, I kind of understand because, you know, singing, moving your body, I mean, there's something that is special about that, you know, there's something that is exhilarating about it. But, like, what. How does it still give you a boner? You know? Like, what is that thing where you're just like, God damn it? I just love it so much.

[Derek Hough]

I mean, I'm going to be honest with you, man. It's. It's an. I have an interesting relationship with dance. You do now? In a way, because, you know, here's the thing. As. It's evolving. It's evolving.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

Because when I competed as a dancer, I loved it, but it was very much like I was training and. But I will say this. I will say this as, like, the thing that I love most about it is when I'm actually dancing, performing, like, I could go on tour, and I'm dancing Yeah, I truly feel like the most. Sounds cheesy, like connected. I feel connected to myself.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

Because I do have a busy ass brain. My brain.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

But when I'm just dancing in the music, the music syncs up and your body sync up together and they're like doing this, you just like.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah, you start.

[Derek Hough]

I don't sound silly, but like, I just like start like, like hitting things hard and strong. And then I'm here, I mean, to shape myself.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

The bass, you feel the drums hit it. All of that. It just makes you feel super. Just like. Yeah, here and just present.

[Robbie Daw]

And I'm feeling it right now. When you're explaining this. Yeah, I am. I'm like, oh, yeah. Like I wish I could feel that way.

[Derek Hough]

No, but that's, that's. That's the thing. But on the flip side of that though, I'll be honest with you.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

The creation process can be torture. Like, you're just like. You're like, oh my God, I have no ideas. And what is this? And this isn't good enough. And oh my. You. You know, there's this expectation. Like, you know, you've won four Emmys and people are looking at you like, what's. Come on, man. Like you're supposed to be good. And, you know, those fears start to creep in and I start to get a little bit in my head about things. And sometimes that sort of over analysis equals paralysis type of thing, you know. But, but so it's this interesting relationship where when I'm doing it. Oh, love it.

[Robbie Daw]

Right, got it.

[Derek Hough]

But creating it can sometimes be like, you know.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah, well, it's so. I mean, when you have a partner too, there it is so intimate. Especially depending on what kind of dances you're doing. You know what I mean? And you know, it's a. It's an interesting. It's an interesting gig. I know you're married and all this stuff, but like you're married to a dancer. I mean, when you are connected like that with someone and you're flying and you're in sync, there's something so like sexy and romantic and about it all, you know, and then. But you have to kind of separate yourself from all that.

[Derek Hough]

I. Well, there is and there isn't because like when you dance and when you've grown up dancing and doing it, it. You can. I mean, you might watch it and be like, oh my gosh.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

Energy between them. But then I might be like, oh, I. There's no, there's no energy there. That was just that's just. That's just that. That's just the movement, the dancing. It's like a. Very. Definitely separate the two.

[Robbie Daw]

Mm. Well, especially when you're dancing. You dance with your sister too, right?

[Derek Hough]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

You know, so that's like. What's up with that? That's a whole other thing, you know, by the way.

[Derek Hough]

But that's. That's the thing. That's the thing. Like, for me, you know, from the outside looking in, when you watch me dancing, like, it feels really intimate in that kind of way. But for us as dancers, it's really not. It's just like you're. You're. We're, like, focused on the mechanics and the. We're focusing on, like, stretching and, like, you know, there's so many. So many things going on in our brain.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

About certain things that we're not even thinking about. Like, you know, I mean, there's too much going on in our brains, but. Yeah, man, it's. It's. It's. But on Dancing the Stars, I will say, you know, you get somebody coming out, coming in there, you know, and all of a sudden they're, like, learning from you.

[Robbie Daw]

And, of course, I mean, look, think how many relationships there's been from Dancing with the Stars. Only that's what. Those are, the ones that we've heard. I mean, you know, I mean, I'm sure you have all kinds of dirt about the. That no one knows about that goes on that went on for the billions of seasons of Dancing with Stars.

[Derek Hough]

Oh, dude. By the way, my favorite is there's this whole wave of new. It's the number one show on tv, which is insane right now.

[Robbie Daw]

It's crazy. It will not stop.

[Derek Hough]

It's insane. It's like a whole new life, whole new fan base. And this whole new fan base they've only been watching for, like, two years. And there's 18 years of this lore, if you will, that they, like, they're trying to, like, learn and hear about. And I'm like, oh, the stuff you'll hear about is maybe 10% of what actually went on.

[Robbie Daw]

Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.

[Derek Hough]

It's crazy, man. It's crazy.

[Robbie Daw]

It's crazy. You're right, though. You're right. Because you have two professionals together. They've been doing it all their lives. They understand the game. They understand the dance, so to speak. But when you have these sort of celebrities or these Dancing with the Stars contestants coming in who are now, you know, connected like that and feeling things and moving their body with someone as They've never moved it before. Yeah, there's something that is intoxicating about that. There's no doubt.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, there's. It's interesting. And listen, it doesn't always, like. It doesn't always, like, turn into something or anything. No.

[Robbie Daw]

Right.

[Derek Hough]

But. But, you know, it is. It's. It's a unique experience to feel guided in something and like, you're like, oh, I'm. I'm at your mercy kind of thing. And it's. It's in a good way. You know what I mean? In a way, it's like, oh, I get to actually be taught something and immersed in something every day, seven days a week, six hours a day. Like, when was the last thing you ever got to do that?

[Robbie Daw]

I mean. Yeah, like, never.

[Derek Hough]

Never. It's such a unique experience. And I think that I. I think. Who did I say this to? I said this to one of the contestants the other day because they were saying, like, oh, yeah, I'm really tired about them trying to pin us against each other and all this. I said, well, listen, you have to savor this moment because, one, it's going to be over like that, and two, you're never going to experience something like this ever again. It's just. You just won't. You'll have other amazing opportunities and other amazing experiences, but you will never, like, have this sort of intense focus on something for this many hours a day, for seven days a week, and then show it something new every week in front of millions of people. It's such a. It's such a unique thing that you just need to savor it, man. You need to say, oh, yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

They asked, I think a few years back, I think I was. I was. We're doing a show for abc, but they asked me to do it. I was too scared. I'm like, I can't. Too scary for me, dude. Like, I can't go dance in front of people yet. I'm not ready.

[Derek Hough]

Scary. I have so much. Anybody that's out there, like, whoever is crazy enough to get to put themselves through this is like, yeah, it's pretty crazy, man.

[Robbie Daw]

So, yeah, I'm a golfer. I golf. It's what I do. And Arizona has incredible golfing, especially Scottsdale. And the fall is the best time to go golf in Scottsdale and Arizona. You know what? If you're looking for a serene escape, fewer crowds than that time of year. And the weather is amazing. So the city is always bustling during the major event season, like spring training or the WM Phoenix Open. Which I've been to.

[Kate Hudson]

Sometimes you want a more relaxed getaway. And in fall, Scottsdale can be all about you. It's perfect for hiking, yoga, guided meditations, horseback riding.

[Robbie Daw]

And did you know Scottsdale is home to more than 200 area golf courses? Mm, yeah. Told you. This is why I'm going. Go play golf. World class golf.

[Kate Hudson]

There's also Scottsdale's Old Town district. All walkable with world class shops and restaurants. You won't be bored.

[Robbie Daw]

There's still tons to do there in the fall. Dreamy Draw Music festival is always a good vibe. Canal Convergence is a cool annual art event at the Scottsdale waterfront. And it gets decked out for the holidays, including Scott's Dazzle when Old Town gets all festive and all lit. So you gotta go visit unwindinscotsdale.com today.

[Kate Hudson]

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[Robbie Daw]

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[Derek Hough]

I'm gonna be honest with you. I'll be honest with you.

[Robbie Daw]

I.

[Derek Hough]

Again, because I've been in that position.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

I feel like I'm really, like, I have a lot of respect and a lot of, like, empathy and like, hey, hey, like, you're doing good. You got there. And which is interesting because, of course, Len Goodman, who was, you know, our head judge for so many years. Listen, people would not have survived the last few years. I mean, when you look back at some of the comments and the things that they had said.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

Were unbelievable. And they were. For me, they were fantastic because it was just, like, shocking. Now, I will say this. It's interesting being a judge because, you know, I'll try to be. I try to be encouraging. I try to be, you know, supportive and also give some practical notes that they can actually work on the next week. That's what. That's what I would want to hear. Give me some clarity. Like, what do I need to work on? You know? So I try to give those notes in 15 seconds, which is. Yeah. Hardest part. Which sometimes nothing comes out. I'm just like, yeah, great job. But it's funny, though, because being a judge is not a popular position to be.

[Robbie Daw]

No.

[Derek Hough]

Because you say something to somebody and then one person says, oh, my gosh, you're so mean. I hate you.

[Robbie Daw]

Oh, gosh.

[Derek Hough]

Like, I used to. Like, I hate you.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

The same comment below that will be like, you're too soft and, like, you're too nice. Like, so you're just like, you can't win, dude.

[Robbie Daw]

No, you can't win. You just be you. That's it.

[Derek Hough]

That's it. By the way, you know, I've had some producers say, like, hey, can you, like, you know, get in there a little bit more? And I'm like, hey, guys, I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna be me. Because if I. If I try to be something I'm not, first of all, people are gonna smell it in my million 100, and it's just gonna look. It's gonna look really, like, tacky, honestly.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah, no, it's true.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

You know, if all of a sudden you're like, that was. They're like, wait a minute.

[Derek Hough]

What?

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah, yeah, because they always. You always want, you know, the panel of judges to have their. You want what the. Who wants, like, direct and honest and then the one sort of soft and sweet, you know?

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, yeah, I'm. I'm trying to. I try to just be, like, practical. Yeah, that's my. That's my angle, if you will.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah. And then extra. Is this. Is this a new. This is a new gig, sort of, right?

[Derek Hough]

Dude, Three weeks in.

[Robbie Daw]

I'm like, three weeks in?

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, yeah, three weeks in. It's a.

[Robbie Daw]

This is a great gig, though.

[Derek Hough]

You know what? It's. It's crazy because when they first came to me about it, I was like.

[Robbie Daw]

I was like, what?

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, I was like, nah, I don't see myself doing that. And then I was, like, thinking about it. I was. First I was thinking about having a baby, and then I was like, okay, hey, it's 20 minutes away. Yeah, okay, I'll be done at 12 or 1 o'. Clock. I was like, yep, okay. That's kind of fun. And. And then, of course, I'm also just a fan. I'm like a huge fan of movies. I love music. I love. I love. You know, I'm in the entertainment business. I. I love it. And so being able to interview certain people and get to communicate with them and talk with them is really cool. But I so much respect already three weeks in for, you know, Terry Seymour, who I've known for 20 years, you know, and interviewing people and talking with them, it's. It's like such a skill. So I'm excited about exercising this different muscle. My first week, as far as the interviews go, my first week was like Margot Robbie, the Rock, Emily Blunt, like Jessica Chastain, Reese Witherspoon. I was like. I was like, guys, my first week, freaking ain't.

[Robbie Daw]

Oh, no, that's hard.

[Derek Hough]

It was great, though, because, one, they were all really gracious and really kind and wonderful, but I definitely felt like you know, I learned a lot of different, you know, things in there, but there's a lot of the best moments that came out of those. But the moments that I Like genuine questions that I actually. That I wanted to ask that wasn't.

[Robbie Daw]

Like, you know, from the card or, you know.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, yeah. So that was, like, a good indicator. I was like, okay, cool. Like, I need to just, like, trust my instincts in those ways. But I will say the biggest learning curve is in the vos, right, bro? I'm in there, and I'm like, first of all, I'm start reading it, and, you know, his name's Caesar. He's in there. He's like, hey, try. Like, he's like, a little more energy. I was like, more energy.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

Coming up. And I was like, are you sure I sound like. I sound like a Muppet or something?

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

But then. Then you see it in context.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

Music and the clips. And I was like, wow, I'm actually not doing enough.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

So then I'm in there. Now I. The setup was, like, sitting down, doing it. The vos. Now I'm standing up. I have a thing up here. And I'm like, right.

[Robbie Daw]

I'm like, right, we got something. Something.

[Derek Hough]

I'm like. I'm, like, freaking dancing in there, like. Like a crazy person, but it's wild, man.

[Robbie Daw]

That's funny. No, it's so true. It's so, so true, dude.

[Derek Hough]

It sounds crazy, but it is funny. There's a lot of moments, points in there where, like, it goes something. Something in Oliver Hudson, and it, like, goes up.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

And I just. I just. I'm literally feel like Ron Burgundy, and I'm like. I'm like, is that. Are we about that? They're like, trust us. And then it goes in the clip. I'm like, oh, that sounds correct.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

So my grandpa was a radio DJ in Spokane, Washington, and one of the few guys who actually got Elvis to come up with him and did a radio. This is a picture of him. So when I was in there, I was kind of like. I was kind of, like, channeling my grandpa a little bit, like this, like, kind of that radio voice, you know? And, yeah, it's kind of a cool little moment, but that's been a big learning curve. Yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

Did you just get a call? Like, hey, Derek, like, any interest in. And doing extra.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Simple. It was just a cold call. And I was like. I was like. I was like, I don't think so. And then I went and met with them, and then we just Were talking.

[Robbie Daw]

I was like, yeah, that could be kind of fun.

[Derek Hough]

Okay. All right. And then. And then it was literally like, cool. I said yes. And then I think, like, three, four days later, like, cool, you're going in with Margot Robbie and Colin Farrell. I was like, wow. I was like.

[Robbie Daw]

How do you. What's the prep on something like that? You know, Is it just. You get the questions?

[Derek Hough]

It's.

[Robbie Daw]

It's pretty. Is it pretty basic?

[Derek Hough]

You know, obviously the questions about the film. Yeah. You know, and all that stuff. Course.

[Robbie Daw]

And it's a proper sit down. Right. It's like that sit down vibe.

[Derek Hough]

Oh, dude, that's the other part of it is the press junket thing.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah. So.

[Derek Hough]

Oh, yeah, I don't know about that stuff. So I. I go. You know, you go to the Four Seasons. You go in there and you check in and. And first of all, you sit down in a dark hallway and like in, like a. In a row on these chairs, and they're all sitting there. I'm like, hi, guys. And you just go in one by one, waiting your turn to go in for eight minutes. And then, like, I mean, and they just.

[Robbie Daw]

Jesus.

[Derek Hough]

It was. I. Dude, I feel like a little kid going up the first day of school. I was like, yeah, this is terrifying. Hell, yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

Especially four days after. Yeah, I'll do this gig. Here's Margot Robbie and Colin Farrell. Like, all right, go ahead.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, go. And they're like, yeah, be better. And I literally said, though, I think I said. I was like, hey, by the way, this is my first interview. They're like, shut up. Yeah. They're like, what? So anyways, it was. It was cool, man. But I learned. I've learned a lot. It's been really neat. And like I said before, I've been really fortunate because it's kind of nice, too, is that some of these. Some of these people have. They know. They know me kind of in some way or indirectly. In some. Some way. Like we're chatting.

[Robbie Daw]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Derek Hough]

They're like, yo, bro, we were dancing at that Halloween party years ago, right? So it kind of is nice to break the ice a little bit. And.

[Robbie Daw]

Well, I think that's why you're such a great hire, you know, I mean, for obviously a million different reasons. But, yes, you have relationships. You've been in Hollywood long enough now you have relationships with a lot of these people. So it's not just some sort of interviewer talking head where it's like, oh, yeah, dude, like, what's up? I mean, there's a comfortability that happens when being interviewed by someone who you. You know.

[Derek Hough]

Yeah, yeah.

[Robbie Daw]

You know, for sure.

[Derek Hough]

For sure, man. It's. It's so. That's been cool. It's been cool. But again, it's like a lot of. I will say this. It's funny. There's some moments when I'm talking about some. Some things, and I'm like, oh, no, I don't want to talk about that.

[Robbie Daw]

I know.

[Derek Hough]

But you're like, it's okay, you know, whatever.

[Robbie Daw]

But, yeah. Oh, I'd be. I think I'd be fired. I. Because I'd go down a weird rabbit hole. You know what I mean? I'd go way off. The questions be like, wait a minute. Wait, you just said this. And then all of a sudden, we're off on a different tangent.

[Derek Hough]

Well, by the way, too, even just like yesterday, we were, like, you know, chatting, chatting Tatum and Kirsten Dunst for Roofman. And, you know, we're talking, and I have, you know, like, eight questions prepared. All these things and characters and this and that and all. And we just talked about parent advice, basically, because you have eight minutes, and you're like, oh, that's it. Oh, my gosh. I asked one question.

[Robbie Daw]

Well, dude, it sounds like you've been amazing. Congratulations on the baby coming. Thanks. All of your successes, and it's been great to talk to you, and thank you for. For taking the time, man. I know you're busy, brother.

[Derek Hough]

I appreciate you, man. Thank you so much, man.

[Robbie Daw]

Yeah, take it easy, man.

[Derek Hough]

You, too, brother. Take care, man.

[Robbie Daw]

All right. Later. What a handsome dude, huh? Just hair's perfect, beard's perfect, baby blues shining through. Just clean cut, bang, bang. I got ten ears on them. I know, but look at me. Look at me. You know, I. You know, I look like. I don't know what I look like. I look like a man that was just found in a dumpster, you know, who is just sort of taken off the street and giving headphones and a mic. You know what, though? I am handsome in my own way. Do you hear that, Derek? I'm handsome in my own way. Just because you're glowing and I'm matte doesn't mean that you're better than me. All right, ending.

[Derek Hough]

Bye.

[Kate Hudson]

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[Robbie Daw]

A serene escape this fall, fewer crowds and amazing weather, you know where you need to go. Go to Scottsdale, Arizona. The city is bustling during spring training, but in fall Scottsdale can be all about you. It's perfect for hiking, yoga, guided meditations, horseback riding and did you know Scottsdale is home to more than 200 area golf courses? This is why I go to Scottsdale to play golf in the fall because that's when the weather is great. It's not too hot, it's not too cold. It's perfect. There's also Scottsdale's old town districts. All walkable with world class shops and restaurants. And I hear Dreamy Drum Music festival is always a good vibe.

[Derek Hough]

So.

[Robbie Daw]

So that's it Aaron. We're going Visit unwind in Scottsdale.com today. Have you ever turned a dollar into ten grand? I doubt it, but now you can. On Better Picks Download the Better App, Pick more or less on your favorite players stats, watch the games and win some cash. It's that simple. Better picks available in 33 states including Texas, California and Georgia. Download the Better App today. That's Better Betr and get a free $10. No deposit necessary. Must be 21 or older in a jurisdiction where better picks operates in terms of conditions apply. Better Picks Sports just got better. Hey audiobook lovers. I'm Cal Penn. I'm Ed Helms. Ed and I are inviting you to join the best sounding book club you've ever heard with our new podcast Hearsay The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. Each week we sit down with your favorite iHeart podcast hosts and some very special guests to discuss the latest and greatest audiobooks from Audible. Listen to hearsay on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow earsay and start listening on the free iHeartradio app today. Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway now through November 4th. Shop the annual beauty event and save $5 when you spend $25 on select beauty products. Shop in store or online for items like Dove Body Wash Native Body Wash, Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser, Dr. Squatch body wash, Neutrogena Hydro Boost Water Gel, Dial Liquid Hand Soap and Olay Body wash. And save $5 when you spend $25 or more. Offer ends November 4th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[Derek Hough]

This is an I Heart Pod.