From Clueless to Christmas with Alicia Silverstone

Summary

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Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson

Episode: From Clueless to Christmas with Alicia Silverstone

Release Date: August 25, 2025
Guest: Alicia Silverstone
Hosts: Kate Hudson & Oliver Hudson
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Sibling Revelry, Oliver Hudson is joined by actress, producer, and activist Alicia Silverstone. The episode delves into Alicia’s journey from her Bay Area childhood to Hollywood fame, her family roots, creative choices, activism, and parenting. The pair share personal stories, their friendship from working together on a new Christmas movie, and reflect on career evolution, parenting, and finding joy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reuniting & New Projects

• Oliver reveals a longtime crush on Alicia (03:21) and recalls working together on the upcoming Netflix Christmas film Mary Little Xmas.
• Alicia is busy with multiple projects, including producing and starring in the new series Irish Blood and film Pretty Thing (05:21).

“I've been on a press tour, so I'm... coming back to life today. But the weekend, I was exhausted for this new movie. ... And then the show that came out yesterday is Irish Blood.”
— Alicia Silverstone [05:18]

2. Early Life & Family Dynamics

• Alicia grew up in the Bay Area and moved to LA at 14 to pursue acting, at first without her parents (07:23).
• Childhood involved family moves, supportive yet creatively unfulfilled parents, and an early introduction to acting classes (07:34-09:34).

"My dad saw me at school, in a play... and he said, you're really good. ... So he put me in acting classes at 12."
— Alicia Silverstone [08:23]

• Both parents had performance aspirations but took different paths; her father was a chef and her mother, a Pan Am flight attendant with linguistic talent (10:13-10:54).

3. Breaking into Hollywood

• Alicia’s first LA summer was at acting camp, followed by showcases and agent meetings, culminating in her castings on The Wonder Years and The Crush (14:31-16:56).
• She openly discusses initial failures and learning (“I sucked. I was not good at all.” [12:35]), and how love, friendships, and lucky breaks charted her trajectory.

4. Clueless: Iconic Role & Approach

• After success with The Crush, Alicia was cast (after a unique drink-straw incident) as Cher in Clueless—a role that would define her pop culture legacy (23:01-24:45).
• She reflects on approaching the part with seriousness, grounding Cher’s confidence and naïveté in authenticity and heart rather than stereotype.

“The funniest thing about you is how seriously you take yourself. ... Have it be, you know. And I think that is what comedy really is. It's just committing.”
— Alicia Silverstone on playing Cher [26:11]

• Finding Cher’s heart was central:

“She loves her daddy, loves her dad. ... And she has a big heart in general. ... She's doing charity work all the time.”
— Alicia Silverstone [29:39]

5. Fame, Activism, and Reinvention

• Alicia admits fame was overwhelming and not her initial motivation: “I think I railed against it for a long time... I bailed and I went really deep into my activism.” [34:14]
• Used her platform to support animals, write “The Kind Diet” and “The Kind Mama,” and create organic, non-GMO products.
• Her activism “was in my DNA”—rescuing animals with her mother as a child, becoming vegetarian after learning about animal welfare (37:17-39:43).
• She shares a story about helping Aerosmith video director Marty Kallner go vegan and improve his health (41:00-42:13).

“...I wrote The Kind Diet, it came because I needed that book. ... I wanted one book that I could hand to everyone. I had to make it.”
— Alicia Silverstone [36:44]

6. Motherhood & Parenting Philosophy

• Alicia discusses raising her son Bear vegan but with openness, allowing him to explore his own choices:

“I said, 'You can taste it. I’ll never have it at the house... but you can taste it for sure.'” [42:35]

• She has found profound joy and contentment in motherhood, cherishing her bond with Bear while realizing eventual independence (“I only have him, so I'm definitely moving wherever he [goes].”) [44:33].

7. Reflection on Connection, Contentment & Friendship

• Oliver and Alicia reflect on their connection working together, the energy required to be present and collaborative on-set (48:05).
• Both marvel at the intensity of parental attachment as children grow and move on (“Just walking past his room and him not being there, I don't know if I can deal with that.” — Oliver [44:12]).

“I love my job... I'm so lucky to have some really good friends. ... Most importantly, I just am obsessed with my son.”
— Alicia Silverstone [45:49]

8. Creative Ambition & Personal Growth

• Alicia’s career now spans producing, writing, activism, and acting—and she’s revisited acting with renewed passion (“I really love acting and why can’t I do both?” [35:49]).
• She celebrates her recent work with director Yorgos Lanthimos and upcoming projects, and expresses gratitude for health, friends, and personal growth (45:49).

“I feel like we are not surviving. We are thriving.”
— Alicia Silverstone [47:07]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Early Aspiration:
  “I left when I was 14 to go pursue acting in Los Angeles.”
  — Alicia Silverstone [08:14]
• On Cher’s Essence:
  “I had to remind myself, well, you're not an actress to play yourself yourself... what can I love about her? And then I realized, oh, she loves her daddy.”
  — Alicia Silverstone [29:37]
• On Parenting:
  “He's such a great cook that if he, you know, he really likes the look of fried chicken sandwiches. ... He makes them at home with tofu.”
  — Alicia Silverstone on Bear [43:40]
• On Fame:
  “I think I railed against it for a long time. ... I bailed and I went really deep into my activism.”
  — Alicia Silverstone [34:14]
• On Activism’s Origins:
  “We stopped the car, I remember running down the freeway trying to catch this dog... but, you know, they're European. And I was, I was trustworthy.”
  — Alicia Silverstone [37:20]

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Highlights with Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:21 | Oliver introduces Alicia, mentions their movie Mary Little Xmas | | 05:18 | Alicia discusses her current workload: ADR, press, new projects | | 07:23 | Alicia recalls childhood moves and supportive parents | | 08:14 | Moving to LA at 14 to pursue acting | | 12:35 | On struggling in early acting classes; learning by doing | | 16:56 | Booking The Crush, early career breakthroughs | | 23:01 | Getting cast in Clueless after The Crush (Aerosmith videos link) | | 26:11 | Playing Cher as comedy: seriousness is the foundation | | 29:39 | Finding the soul of Cher: “She loves her daddy...” | | 34:14 | “I think I railed against it for a long time...” (fame, activism) | | 36:44 | Starting companies and books out of personal need | | 37:17 | Childhood roots of animal activism | | 42:35 | Being flexible with Bear’s diet and curiosity | | 44:12 | Oliver on preparing to let children go (“Walking past his room...”)| | 45:49 | Gratitude, friends, son, and recent artistic projects | | 48:05 | Reflections on acting together and mutual creative respect |

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Tone & Style

• Warm, candid, humorous, and vulnerable.
• Deeply personal stories balanced with industry insights.
• Emphasis on authenticity, creativity, growth, and heart.

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Conclusion

This intimate conversation showcases Alicia Silverstone’s multidimensional journey—from teen stardom to dedicated mother and activist—revealing the values, vulnerabilities, and humor that fuel both her career and personal life. The episode is a heartfelt look at reinvention, family bonds, creative seriousness, and the power of following one’s truth.

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Transcript

[Alicia Silverstone]

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[Oliver Hudson]

Hi, I'm Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

[Alicia Silverstone]

We wanted to do something that highlighted.

[Oliver Hudson]

Our relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are. A sibling rivalry.

[Alicia Silverstone]

No, no.

[Oliver Hudson]

Sibling revelry.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Don't do that with your mouth.

[Oliver Hudson]

Sibling revelry.

[Alicia Silverstone]

That's good.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, yeah. Not much of an intro coming because we're going to talk about this next guest who's in the waiting room right now. Her name is Alicia Silverstone, and I had such a massive crush on her during Clueless, and I was lucky enough to work with her. We did a movie called Mary Little Xmas. I think that's the name of the movie. I always get it wrong. A Christmas movie for Netflix. Really fun. She's awesome. And we got to know each other very well. We had so much fun. She's such a good mom. She's so many things that are good, and she's so talented, and she's producing and just killing it as usual. So I'm not gonna do much of an intro here because she's enough of one. Bring her in.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Hello?

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, there she is.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Where are you right now?

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm in Colorado. My boys just left today, so now I get a little time with just Aaron to hang. But I think I'm too attached to my kids.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Well, duh.

[Oliver Hudson]

No, I know, but I don't know if it's unhealthy. It's probably not unhealthy, but I don't know. I just love them being around.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah, of course.

[Oliver Hudson]

You know, it's normal. I know. Well, you got to witness it really firsthand with Wilder and myself. For those that don't know, we just did a movie together, and Wilder plays our son in the movie, so at least you got to see all of me, how I parent what my relationship is like with my boy. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun. So how are you? You tired? Did you get some sleep? We rested.

[Alicia Silverstone]

I'm going to do ADR for our movie right after this.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, you are?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah. And I've been on a press tour, so I'm. I'm. I'm coming back to life today. But the weekend, I was exhausted for this new movie. Yeah, for. For. Well, Pretty Thing just came out, that film with Justin Kelly directing, and Carl Glessman is in it with me, and I love that movie. And that's out right now. And then I. The. The show that came out yesterday is Irish Blood. Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, it's out.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah. Remember when I. Yeah. Home and be working on it.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yes.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And Stuff. So I. That's what it came out yesterday on.

[Oliver Hudson]

So you. You've been doing press for that?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Massive press, yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Are you happy with it?

[Alicia Silverstone]

I am. I'm really good, yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Because you were producing it and starring.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yes.

[Oliver Hudson]

And is that something that you've done a lot of, or is this relatively new?

[Alicia Silverstone]

No, I did my. I produced Excess Baggage with Benice and Christopher Walken. That was my first time. And then I produced the show for kids called Brace face. We made 75 episodes of this animated show. And then I've produced quite a few other things along the way. But most recently, I produced our movie that we did in wherever we were, Toronto and Irish Blood. And Irish Blood was the. You know, I came on at really, really early stages, so it was just an idea when they asked me to do it. And so it gave. By producing, it gave me the opportunity to be involved with every. Every creative hire and all. You know, I worked on all the scripts, I worked on the edit. I. I worked on all. All aspects. And that, I think, was really rewarding in this.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. All right, let's go back a little bit.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Okay.

[Oliver Hudson]

Where did you. Where did you grow up?

[Alicia Silverstone]

I grew up in San Francisco. Like Bay Area?

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, yeah, Bay Area. And live there until you moved to la. Was that your home base?

[Alicia Silverstone]

I lived in the Bay Area. We lived in San first I was born and we went to San Car. San Bruno, then San Carlos, then Hillsboro, and those are all in the Bay Area. And then. So we had quite a few moves in that time. But then I moved to LA when I was 14, and then. And I went and lived on this woman's couch kind of thing for a while, and then my parents followed me later. And then I moved out and then lived behind the Chateau Marmont for a while.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, you did? Amazing. Wait a minute. So you lit. You left when you were 14 to go pursue acting in Los Angeles, Was that correct?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Before that, though, were you a drama kid? Were you acting? Is this what you wanted to do? Were you out of the womb, sort of singing and dancing, so to speak?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Basically, when I was little, I did what I think all kids do, right? They sing. I mean, I don't all kids, but most kids are putting on shows for their parents, I think, sing and singing and whatnot. And my favorite thing to do with my friends was to dance. So we would put on these dancing shows, and they were so ridiculous, I'm sure. But someone named Pat Forrest saw me when I was like 5 and told my dad, like, she's Going to be a star. And I'm sure that that gets said to every kid's parents and the thing. But I just really loved theater and so basically my dad saw me at school in a play and said, you know, it wasn't even a play, it was like, you know, open house, doing a scene in the room. And he said, you're really good. I think at that point I was 12. So he put me in acting classes at 12, and I started doing these classes with Judy O' Neal and she would come every month and I'd spend a weekend with these older kids, you know, 17 year olds and 16 year olds, and it was just so exciting. And people didn't like their parents and people were emotional and it was just juicy.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And I think that's where I realized, oh, these feel like people. This feels like real and deep and thoughtful and gritty and it's not just like surface stuff at school, you know.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. Was your dad a performer?

[Alicia Silverstone]

He wanted to be when he was little and he. But he was a chef. He went. He. Or he had restaurants, like, like a cook, you know, and so he had like Monty Sandwich Shop and things like that. He got into real estate instead. But I think he definitely. He plays Fagan in Oliver, you know, theater thing. He can.

[Oliver Hudson]

Okay, right. So his heart and soul is a performer. Right? He feels like he.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah, and my mom too, I think.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, really?

[Alicia Silverstone]

But neither of them did it, you know, like, my mom could do every accent, really, and she speaks like four languages and. Or she did. And she. She was a flight attendant for Pan Am.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, wow. During, like when. During that heyday.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Wow.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And she was.

[Oliver Hudson]

It's like celebrity status almost.

[Alicia Silverstone]

I mean, I don't think they got that. I think we think of, like that now. We've.

[Oliver Hudson]

We've glorified it maybe a little bit.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Because I don't remember her feeling right, you know, but she would go and come back, you know, a week later or whatever and. Yeah, but she. I think when. I think she had. If she had trained, she could have acted for sure. Just didn't, you know, and.

[Oliver Hudson]

So how do you go to la when you're 14? Like, how does that work?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah, I know. Well, bear is 14 and that's crazy.

[Oliver Hudson]

I know. Imagine Bear right now saying, hey, mom, later, babe. Like, I'm going to New York and I'm gonna go, you know, into the theater world right. By myself. Different times, though, for sure.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And I also think, because my dad had that desire in him and for, you know, for whatever reason, didn't pursue that. So I think because of that, he was very open to me going and pursuing this dream. Judy o' Neill was this sort of manager of these acting classes that would happen for a whole weekend in a hotel once a month. And this was so exciting. I mean, it was just so. Imagine, like, being away from weekend, staying in a hotel with all these older kids. It was just such trouble. I loved it. And. And at that time, I was pretty narcoleptic. I would just fall asleep. Probably trauma, you know, just like.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right, right.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Just checked out totally. Just.

[Oliver Hudson]

I just need to check out for a second.

[Alicia Silverstone]

I'll be back.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right.

[Alicia Silverstone]

But at one point, and I sucked. I was not good at all. And there was a boy in the class.

[Oliver Hudson]

You weren't.

[Alicia Silverstone]

I wasn't good at all.

[Oliver Hudson]

You knew you weren't.

[Alicia Silverstone]

No, I knew I would just get up and giggle. And I think I was good for my school.

[Oliver Hudson]

Mm.

[Alicia Silverstone]

But not for our standards of getting work, you know, And. And now I was amongst other people who were older than me and had been studying for a while, and they were great. And Jonah Bleckman was this kid who. I knew about Jonah Bleckman before I met Judah. Jonah Blackman, because he was like a celebrity in our town, because he had done a milk commercial, you know, and he danced with Barishnikov. He was. And I was in love with him. And no matter how many times everybody told me he was gay, I was like, he's not gay. He told me he's not gay. Defended and defended, and I was in love with him. And by the. Then we were in love with each other for a minute. And then, of course, he ended up being gay, but. And Jonah and I were like. We had this moment where, you know that song, It Must have Been Love.

[Oliver Hudson]

Of course. Must have Been Love, but it's over now.

[Alicia Silverstone]

That was our song of the summer. I was just pining for him. Anyway, the point being all I did is stare at him and giggle in class like I wasn't taking it very seriously. But one day I got a scene with Amit Edelman, who. I'm going to go see a play of his that he. He wrote next week, but he was. He and I did the scene together. And for some reason, I finally dropped in to whatever real truth I finally got it. And. And then everything started to click. And then I. And then they asked me, oh, we're having the summer thing where you can come live with us for a summer. And it's like the chosen kids from the class would go and the summer. So I did. And this was my first introduction to la. I think it was between my freshman and sophomore year.

[Oliver Hudson]

Wow.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And I went and lived with Judy for the summer. And then I, you know, we did a showcase and at the showcase, after the showcase, and I knew I was good in my scenes then. I could feel that I knew what I was now. And after the showcase, she said, everyone needs to go mingle and talk to these casting directors and these agents. I had no interest because I didn't. I didn't even know what that meant.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right.

[Alicia Silverstone]

You know, I just liked acting and I liked the theater aspect of it. I didn't know that you could be movies or tv. It just didn't even occur to me.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Alicia Silverstone]

I didn't really know what I was doing there. And so I didn't go meet anyone. I stayed in the back and I was quite shy about the whole thing. And then the next day she sort of went around and told everybody who they had meetings with based on the showc. And I had a lot of meetings and I found my agent through that and I started going out on a million things. But then I had to go back at the end of the summer for. To go back to.

[Oliver Hudson]

You did, right? You had to finish school?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah, I had to finish school. So I went to sophomore year and that my first semester of sophomore year, I was literally flying back and forth to la.

[Oliver Hudson]

Are you booking jobs?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Not yet. It was like I was getting really close. And I think it. I think that's when I started to book. Like, the first job was a pizza commercial and a. And a telephone company thing. And then I got the Wonder Years. But I think that. I think that must have happened around that time. The one. The Wonder Years. And then this show, Me and Nick, was a pilot I made. And then. And then it wasn't until. I don't know when. Oh, I know. Then for the next off for the second part of sophomore year is when my parents said, you can't just like live there and keep going back and forth. Will come. Will come set up shop there. And so. So I went to Beverly Hills High for my second semester of school. And that's when I got the crush was like, right before I was supposed to go into my junior year. And I was so excited because I had just gotten into the dance program as an extra. Like, Beverly Hills High has this dance program that's auditioned and I got to be like an extra. There's two people that got the role of, like, you're not actually in the company, but you're kind of. You get to practice with the company. Yeah, and I got in and I also got into the drama club. It was really hard to get into, so I was so excited. And then, oh well, I got the crush instead.

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[Alicia Silverstone]

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[Oliver Hudson]

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[Alicia Silverstone]

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[Alicia Silverstone]

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So easy for a year to go by and you're in the same place because there's so much going on in the world today.

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[Oliver Hudson]

So wait, wonder years, was that like one of your first real gigs?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Well, me and Nick was my first thing, but that didn't getting picked up.

[Oliver Hudson]

Okay, got it. But then it was Wonder Years. We were actually on television.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yep.

[Oliver Hudson]

And was that a new art for you because you were so used to theater? There was no technical. I mean, theater is technical, of course, but getting in front of a camera, learning how to sort of find light, hitting a mark, all of that stuff, or did that come naturally?

[Alicia Silverstone]

I don't think I did. And I didn't. Definitely didn't know how to find light hit marks. I don't think. I think you just learn on the job.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And, and the, the wonder years. I kept auditioning for this one part that I didn't get the part that I was auditioning for. But it was down to me and this girl, Lisa Gerber. And we kept, we became friends because we just kept seeing each other at these auditions. It was just her and I. No one could decide between the two of us. I was a little bit older Than her. And anyway, they ended up going with her and so they threw me this other episode with. With Fred Savage where he, you know, he's asking me on a date and I. And I say yes. Then he has to go drive. Learn how to drive.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right.

[Alicia Silverstone]

But yeah, that was my. I guess that was the first.

[Oliver Hudson]

And then Crush was the sort of jump off.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

So what. What was, what was the. What was that? The crushing. And who was in that with you?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Precious. Carrie Elways.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And Jennifer Rubin.

[Oliver Hudson]

Is that kind of what propelled you, you think, into the next stage of your career, that movie? Yeah, it was.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah. I mean, that was my first film and it came out and it was like kind of a little bit of a cult loved movie. You know, it had a. It had its own weird, you know, following. I ended up getting two MTV Movie Awards for it. Best Actress or no, Best Newcomer and Best Villain. And. Yeah, I mean, then tons of things happened as a result of that, for sure.

[Oliver Hudson]

So the Crush and then getting into the Clueless thing. Did you have to audition for Clueless or did you offer Clueless?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Well, but after the Crush, I did eight more movies or. No, seven more. No, eight more movies before Clueless happened. And so I went off to Paris to do this movie with James Gondolfini and this French director. And this was called Le Nouveau Monde with Alan Cornot. He was so special and that was interesting. And then I did like the babysitter and I hide away with Jeff Goldblum. The Aerosmith videos happens to all sprinkled into this where, you know, Marty Kallner, who is the director of the Aerosmith videos, he saw the Crush and asked me to do the Aerosmith videos. And apparently Amy Heckerling says she saw the Aerosmith videos and wanted me to be in Clueless. But I met with her and she tells a story of me sitting across from her and I had ordered whatever drink I had and there was a straw in it and I never picked the glass up to drink the straw. I would just put bob my head down to get the str. To drink back up. And I think that's where she thought that this was perfect for the verse and like some kind of deep innocence, you know, and. Yeah, just a little baby.

[Oliver Hudson]

That is funny.

[Alicia Silverstone]

So we. I. And she had already picked me. But then I guess I needed to do some kind of screen test with for Fox. It was going to be at Fox and that's when I went off to Paris to do Le Nouveau Monde. And that's when I was there at Some point doing this film. A fax came in for me. Remember faxes?

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Alicia Silverstone]

I got this really long fax saying Scott Rudin's taken on the project. And so now we're back and we're going to do it at Paramount. And so that's what we did. We went and then we started casting.

[Oliver Hudson]

So for your character, I mean, it's obviously, there's specificity to share, right? Did you have to work on that? Did that just come out of you when you read the dialogue, or was the dialogue written in there, like the as ifs and all this stuff? And because you created something there. This is not Alicia Silverstone necessarily. There's parts of you, for sure. There's that innocence, there's that cute. I told you I was completely head over heels in love with you. You know, I was trying to find you.

[Alicia Silverstone]

You didn't work very hard to find.

[Oliver Hudson]

I know, but I was like, where is she? I don't want to get a hold of her. There's no cell phones. I was like, what do I do? Like, she lives. Thomas Guide. I'm trying to figure it out. Couldn't figure it out. But how did you just come out of you, basically?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Well, I thought of myself as a very serious actress at that time. You know, I had. I had not done a comedy yet. Everything I had done was like. I think I'd even done a play at that. I played a coked out lesbian who overdoses on cocaine in an orthodox Jewish play.

[Oliver Hudson]

That sounds like made up, you know, just like a joke.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Completely made up. But I did that. So I was doing, you know, things to stretch myself. The people I looked up to at the time was like Jody Foster and Laura Dern, Jodie Foster. For her that she was directing so young, I thought that was so cool. And then Laura, because I saw her in Smooth Talk and I did this scene from Smooth Talk, and, you know, she was so good. And so these were the people that I was interested in. So when Clueless came about, I think I was ready to sink my teeth into this interesting part. And what was. So I didn't think I was funny at all. So I thought, oh, that's going to be tricky. But someone, Carolyn, who I was my manager at the time, she said, the funniest thing about you is how seriously you take yourself. I'm gonna go with that. Lean into the seriousness of everything. Have it be, you know. And I think that is what comedy really is. It's just committing. It's just you're committing 100% to what you're.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Alicia Silverstone]

To me, they're not even any different, to be honest. It's just, you know, it's only different in how they're put together in the end. But the work you have to do is the same work. You have to believe what you're saying. You have to feel what you're feeling. And so, yeah, I think I remembered these girls that I thought were total bitches in high. In junior high and that and. And in high school and stuff, who, you know, thought they were so stuck up about how they dressed and how you were. And I just used that and used that memory of them and my imagination of what, you know, how they would be, this, and. And I think Cher is really, really confident. Yeah, that was fun to just dive in. I don't know. If I knew that at the time, I wouldn't have been able to dissect it. I think I was just playing each scene with her environment. She has tons of money. She can do whatever she wants. She persuades everyone. She's always going to get her way. And she's totally and obviously the queen of everything, which she had decided. Right. Like, I. So that was just fun to play.

[Oliver Hudson]

With, but it's such a fine line you had to walk. And I think, you know, some of it is a performance, but a lot of it is just who you are, because ultimately, you're lovable. You know what I mean? Cause Cher, you can hate her. It's easy to hate someone like that. But there's something about you that you're like, I can't. You know? And I'm sure that's. That's your energy. That's just who you are. But it's also that taking it seriously, that work that layers that character, rather than just, oh, I'm just gonna play her like a rich bitch.

[Alicia Silverstone]

I think what I really realized is Cher. I don't know when I thought of this or how I kind of came to the conclusion, but my first reaction was, ew. I don't want to. You know, I was judging her. I don't want to be one of those people. I don't like people. Right? These people have everything and spend all this money so wastefully. Like, there's nothing about this that is, you know, like, who I am or what I would want. But I had to remind myself, well, you're not an actress to play yourself yourself. And I already.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right.

[Alicia Silverstone]

So it was sort of, well, what can I love about her? And then I realized, oh, she loves her daddy, loves her dad.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And she loves taking care of him.

[Oliver Hudson]

And she has a big heart in general. Big heart. Maybe doesn't know how to, you know, how to operate the heart necessarily yet, but just a big heart.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah. She's doing charity work all the time.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Alicia Silverstone]

She's like taking in Thai, you know, that's her charity.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. It's funny.

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So easy for a year to go by and you're in the same place because there's so much going on in the world today.

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[Oliver Hudson]

So you got into the game because you love being an actor. Fame, money, all that was never really in your purview. But once sort of that hits, once you start to get recognized like a ton and you become famous. Was that something you railed against or is it just part of what you needed to accept?

[Alicia Silverstone]

I think I railed against it for a long time. Yeah, I have very much. You know, I think when you, there's no school for how like there's no preparation for this. And if you don't have anyone around you who's been through this with someone else, how are you? You know, some actors have management and agents who have had many people before them. Right. And so they can help them, I think hopefully with this is how this goes and oh yeah, maybe do this and you know, but if you don't have anyone in your world who's ever dealt with anything like this before and you don't know what you're doing it is incredibly overwhelming. And. And I was not prepared in any way, shape or form for any of it. So I really. I bailed and I went really deep into my activism. You know, that made sense to me and, you know, went to Africa to help elephants and went to the Amazon river to help with the rainforest with Woody and, you know, was going on these trips of sort of discovery and living and trying to do good and. Yeah. And then at one point I realized, because I had gotten so deep into it, you know, I was writing books. I wrote the Kind Diet, I wrote the Kind Mama, and I started a bedside the Kind Life. And I was so involved with that. And then I think one day it occurred to me, like, I really love acting and why can't I do both? And the thing is, is you have to kind of start all over because you've shut all these doors.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right.

[Alicia Silverstone]

You know, I did. That never occurred to me when I went, you, I'm out.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Alicia Silverstone]

It didn't occur to me that they wouldn't be right there waiting when I came back.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, no, I know. You're like, wait a minute. Yeah, I'm still here. Wait a minute. Did you. Did you start like, like the first healthy baby formula and all that, or am I wrong about that?

[Alicia Silverstone]

I created the first ever non GMO verified, certified organic. Non. Like non gmo. No vitamins. I don't do it.

[Oliver Hudson]

Vitamins. That's right.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And exist anymore.

[Oliver Hudson]

It doesn't. Right. Okay.

[Alicia Silverstone]

You know, My Kind Organics. But we did it for 10 years and it was great.

[Oliver Hudson]

Wow. But you were at the forefront of that.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah, I started. It was my.

[Oliver Hudson]

Started it started the company.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Good for you. God, I wish I had your ambition and follow through. I'd be huge right now.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Well, it came from a need. Like, I've often. Even the book I wrote, the Kind Diet, it came because I needed that book. I needed. It didn't exist the way all, like I was handing out different books to different people, but I wanted one book that I could hand to everyone. I had to make it. And that's sort of how I arrive at these things.

[Oliver Hudson]

Have you. Had you always been sort of an environmentalist or an into activism or do you think your celebrity and the fame sort of took you into that direction because you needed to focus on something real, something that was important?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Well, it was in my. It was in my DNA and it was.

[Oliver Hudson]

It was.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah. My mom and I would be driving down the street and see a dog running, a stray dog, and stop the Car. We were on a freeway and we stopped the car. I remember running down the freeway trying to catch this dog, you know, like we weren't. Which is not safe, by the way. Okay. But very well meaning. But not safe. But, but I, you know, they're European. And I was, I was trustworthy. Like, I didn't drive and I didn't dive into traffic. I was on the edge of the road, but still running down the freeway, it's not ideal. We do that and we'd stop and we'd save dogs and cats all. Mostly dogs. And so I learned about rescue through my mom, for sure. And when I was eight years old, I was with my brother and my mom in England and we were in the countryside and I heard the crying of these cows, like it was wailing. And I didn't know what it was. And I asked, what is that? And she said, ask the farmer. And the farmer said, well, all the babies are being taken away from their moms today. And I was like, what?

[Oliver Hudson]

Like that, like, oh, the smile on his face.

[Alicia Silverstone]

I was just normal. It was just part of their practice. Yeah, yeah, get milk. Yeah, you can't get milk unless you take, unless you impregnate a cow and then take the milk away from the baby so that you can give it to the human. And so it's not natural in any way, shape or form. I think I used to think the cow would explode if they didn't get to give their milk to you. They had so much milk. But that's just not how it works. And then I was on the plane, so that really hit me like this, someone taking your child and the crying and screaming of this. And then when, and I was eight and then when I was on the airplane going home and they, we were sitting there and I think they put lamb on my plate. And my brother was like making the sound of lamb. As a brother. As an older brother, of course.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And thank God he did because it made me. I said, oh my God, this is an anim. Like, you know, when you kid and you're just being fed, you don't think about where your food came from. But the reality of this act, I was like, this is lamb. This is actually a lamb. And then I went home and just tried to be vegetarian on my own. And my dad was supportive, he got me this book. But I mean, try giving an 8 year old a dry book about being vegetarian.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Sort of. It was short lived. The, the principle. I mean, the principle was there, but the actions of it were short Lived. I just ate a lot of ice cream and French fries, and it didn't make any sense. And then eventually I saw a documentary on how we get our food. And after that, I was done. I was just like, look at myself in the mirror anymore and say, you're good. You're contributing to the animals, doing well. You are a part of the problem. And until you stop, it's not gonna stop.

[Oliver Hudson]

And it's still a massive part of your life, right?

[Alicia Silverstone]

It is. I mean, I have found balance to just live my life, go where I'm asked, present it as best I can, and hope that it inspires people. I mean, look, when I made these changes, yes, I did it for the animals. But what happened to me was I was on an asthma inhaler. I had an asthma inhaler every single day. I had allergy shots twice a week. I was taking antibiotics three times a year, at least for bronchitis.

[Oliver Hudson]

Wow.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Had acne. I had all these things that are, like, normal in our society. And I. You know, if I had continued that way, who knows what happened to me? Like.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And I always thought it was good karma that I got to ditch all of that. I ditched the asthma inhaler. I. All of that went away when I changed my diet, and I didn't know that that was going to happen. That was the miracle. So it drastically changed my life, and it changed Marty. You know, Marty Kallner, who I was telling you about, who did the Aerosmith videos, like, a few years after I had gone vegan. He said, I have all these health issues, like, serious health issues. And I said, well, let's go out to dinner. And we went to dinner at this. It was called Patina at the time. I don't know if you remember that restaurant, French, and they used to do these amazing vegan tasting menus. And so I had them do a vegan tasting menu for us. And I gave him this book by Dr. Neil Bernard called Food for Life. And. And I said, marty, all of these things that you have can go away. We can get rid of all of them. And he was like, really? And he went home and devoured that book and went vegan. And he lived a longer life because of those choices that he changed his life. And he was a poster child because everyone who knew Marty before and then who knew Marty after this, he lost all this weight. He became so, like, healthy.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Believe it, you know?

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. And what about Bear? I mean, does Bear have any desire, interest in meat or anything? Anything at all, or. And if he did, are you okay with the experimentation of that as a young kid?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Well, when Bear was like five years old, he wanted to taste ham because the kid in his class had ham who was his best friend. And I said, you can taste it. I said, I'll never have it at the house. You can taste it for sure. And then I don't think he ever did. And then we were. We were at this pizza place, you know, Blazes Pizza, where you can pick everything to put on your pizza. And there was a little. You know how there's like a part. A glass partition, and a little piece of pepperoni had come under the petition. And he looked okay. And I said, go ahead, Bear. You can have it. And he was like. I said, you can have it. And he was like. And he didn't take it. So it's like he wanted it to try, but then he also didn't. So I make the choices. But he. He's such a great cook that if he, you know, he really likes the look of fried chicken sandwiches. He's got eye on that. So he makes them at home with tofu. He takes like, blocks of tofu, breads them fries. It makes these amazing sandwiches.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, it's crazy. And who knows? They're getting older. 14, 15, 16, 17, you know, look, I hate to tell you this, but he's going to lose his virginity.

[Alicia Silverstone]

I know. It's awful.

[Oliver Hudson]

It's just gonna happen, you know? Cause he is so sweet. I was lucky enough to. He's just so sweet. But he's got that boy stuff. Like you can tell. You know what I mean? I know. And it's so hard to let him go. Oh, gosh. Wilder is going to be leaving for college next year, and. Although I got two more. But just walking past his room.

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[Oliver Hudson]

We've talked about this on set. But just walking past his room and him not being there, I don't know if I can deal with that. I mean, I'm going to be not just crying when he leaves. I'm going to be emotional.

[Alicia Silverstone]

When?

[Oliver Hudson]

Maybe forever. I don't know. I mean, eventually I'll heal, but I.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Think you should just move wherever he is. Well, you have three, so that makes it trickier.

[Oliver Hudson]

No. Yeah. Yes.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Someone told me recently, which I can't even imagine because I'm still like, no, I'm. I only have him, so I'm definitely moving wherever he. Close enough. He won't have to know I'm there. His little apartment.

[Oliver Hudson]

No, no. I know. Wilder's deciding on Schools. There's possible New York or maybe Colorado. And then he's talking about Santa Barbar, one of my. Ooh, Santa Barbara. It's only like an hour and a half, two hours away. Where you're further enough away. I will not bother you.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And it's a party. It is a party school, but the location's good. I don't know.

[Oliver Hudson]

I know, and I know. All right, last stuff. Just generally, are you a happy girl in your life? You know, you're doing stuff now. You're, You're, You're. You're acting your tail off. You know, you're producing. I mean, I know a lot about you that. That we won't talk about, but, you know, are you. Are you. Are you happy? Are you content?

[Alicia Silverstone]

Don't you think I. What do you think? Do you think I seem like a content human?

[Oliver Hudson]

You do. You do. I just think that you. I just. I think you are extremely content. But you are a lover by nature, and you want someone to love with and to love you and for you to love someone deeply.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yes, all of those things are true.

[Oliver Hudson]

If.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Yeah, I think everything else is set. Like, I love my job. I just got to do Yorgos Lanthimos's movie that's coming.

[Oliver Hudson]

That is exciting.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And. And I get to. I'm going to Venice Film Festival in a week, and I'm so lucky to have some really good friends. And I. And I love. Most importantly, I just am obsessed with my son. I know being with him. And we want. We're watching Stranger Things right now, and David Harbour and I are good pals because we worked together on a play a long time ago, and. Anyway, so I give him the play by play as I'm watching it, like, yeah, whatever, But. But Bear, like, you know, he's. Well, I probably shouldn't talk about Bear, because he won't, you know, but anyway, get some snuggles.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alicia Silverstone]

But I don't want them to be taken away by him hearing this.

[Oliver Hudson]

No, no, no.

[Alicia Silverstone]

I still, you know, he's just, you know, he's my favorite, and I have a good life, and I'm so lucky. Like, we're so lucky that we're faith and that we're healthy and that we have great food to eat, and I feel like we are not surviving. We are thriving and.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, good. Well, I miss you.

[Alicia Silverstone]

I miss you, too.

[Oliver Hudson]

It's been a minute. I'm back in on the 20th, and then, you know, let's figure it out. You go to Venice to tell everybody.

[Alicia Silverstone]

About you in this movie. But maybe that's not right now. That's coming later.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, we did a movie together. It's gonna be great.

[Alicia Silverstone]

So good in it. Oh, my.

[Oliver Hudson]

Thanks. Yeah. I, I, I, you know, I did the adr. We've been texting. It's hard to look at yourself. It's just hard to look at yourself. I. As we get older, you know, and we just say, all right, you just got to deal with it now. Lighting is obviously a thing, and some scenes I thought were better than others and. But, you know, it is what it is. I'm an old man. I don't like to watch my shit anymore.

[Alicia Silverstone]

No, it's like when you look really good and there's no lighting because it's just like you're outside.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Alicia Silverstone]

That's concerning, because you go, I look good, and I'm outside and no lights are on me. Me. And then you put some lights on me and I don't look good.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I want no makeup, no lights, just like. Just leave me alone. No. I had such a fun time working with you. And we had. We had such a blast. We connected immediately, you know, very open with each other, which is necessary, you know, doing a movie like this, a Christmas movie. I was like, okay, well, I. I want to work on it. I don't want to just phone anything in, you know? And I was hoping that you were going to be game. And you were beyond game, you know, I was like, well, let's get together. Let's work on these scenes. Let's figure it out. This shit doesn't make sense. And, of course, we've got our crazy director who's, you know, going every which way. But I had a blast with you. I had so much fun.

[Alicia Silverstone]

It was so fun. And it was so sweet that that first day, we all, you, me and Wilder were acting like a family in the airport. You were carrying.

[Oliver Hudson]

I know. That was amazing. Just carrying your bag. I took your passport.

[Alicia Silverstone]

We had a good time. You're really fun to act opposite.

[Oliver Hudson]

So thanks. Well, we'll do it again.

[Alicia Silverstone]

That'd be fun.

[Oliver Hudson]

All right. Elise, so good to talk to you. Have the best time in Venice.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Thank you.

[Oliver Hudson]

You lucky girl. And let's link up when you get home. Let's figure something out.

[Alicia Silverstone]

And say hi to Wilder for me.

[Oliver Hudson]

I will.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Hey. Bye.

[Oliver Hudson]

Bye. There she is, Ms. Alicia Silverstone. Fun, smart, talented. All the above. Very cool. Fun to work with. A little intimidated at first. I was like, oh, is she gonna be cool? I just never know, but you know, I kind of can get along with anyone. She's definitely easy to get along with. We had a great time. Yeah. Christmas movie. I don't know when this episode's releasing, but I think, I think our movie releases like November 12th or 13th or something. Christmas movie for Netflix. Really sweet, really sweet movie. It's, it's what you think it is. You know, don't expect, you know, any explosions or blood or, you know, intense scenes. It's, it's just a fun holiday movie that's very sweet. Just like me. Oliver Rutledge Hudson. Bye.

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And the producers of 8 Mile.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Never seen anything like Eminem fans.

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This is the story of a fan base.

[Alicia Silverstone]

I had to look in the mirror and be like, am I one of these crazy Stans that created a culture? I do have an addiction to Eminem.

[Oliver Hudson]

I traveled the world for him.

[Alicia Silverstone]

Without Eminem, I wouldn't have the life I have right now.

[Oliver Hudson]

What's your first question?

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[Alicia Silverstone]

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