It's the Best of Sibling Revelry! (part 1)

Summary

Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson

Episode: It's the Best of Sibling Revelry! (Part 1)
Date: February 19, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode is a “best of” celebration, stitching together some of the most memorable moments and conversations from Sibling Revelry’s run. Kate and Oliver Hudson revisit deep, funny, and candid discussions about family, sibling bonds, and human behavior with guests including Anthony Anderson, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Laura Berman, Mel Robbins, and famed psychic John Edward. The episode dives into topics ranging from career beginnings and sibling dynamics, to addiction, habit change, sex and relationships, and spiritual connections with loved ones who have passed. The trademark playful repartee between Kate and Oliver infuses the episode with warmth and humor throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. The Sibling Bond & Banter

(03:39, 04:22)

• Kate and Oliver discuss wanting a show that highlights their sibling relationship and what it’s really like to grow up as siblings.
• Classic playful interruptions, teasing, and mispronunciations set the relaxed tone:
  • "We are a sibling revelry. No, no, sibling revelry." – Oliver (03:45)
  • “Don’t do that with your mouth.” – Dr. Laura Berman (03:59)

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2. Anthony Anderson & Hugh Jackman: Career Beginnings

(05:23 – 08:59)

• Oliver and Kate welcome Anthony Anderson (mistakenly called “Hugh Jackman” in transcript, but contextually, this is Anthony’s story) for stories about first jobs and the journey to acting successes.
• Anthony’s quirky first job: Captain Cravings, a dessert mascot that involved delivering sweets in a full costume.
  • “This was Uber Eats before Uber Eats!” – Anthony Anderson (06:20)
  • “If you ever need to be saved, dial 797-Crave!” – Anthony Anderson (07:03)
• Laughter ensues over image of Anthony making deliveries in tights and a cape.
• Anthony’s first professional acting credit (and getting his SAG card) was for a Roger Corman film – a grounding, surreal moment for him as a young actor.
• Reflections on being “semi-known” before breaking in the US; detailed anecdotes about auditioning for "X-Men" and the unique circumstances that shaped performances.
  • “I went in with a, I didn’t give a… Are we done? We fucking done? Let’s go. And I walked out, and they were like 'We love this guy.'” – Anthony/Hugh (12:54)

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3. The Science of Habit Change with Mel Robbins

(17:54 – 23:46)

• Kate and Oliver talk to Mel Robbins about overcoming self-sabotage, addiction, motivation, and the psychology of change.
• Mel discusses her struggle with drinking and the moment of realization in her 40s:
  • “You want to know how bad things got? ...the next thing you remember is when you wake up in a chair in the living room because your three kids have missed the bus and they’re waking you up. That’s how you know you’re failing at this parenting thing.” – Mel Robbins (18:39)
• The difference between knowing and doing:
  • “You can know what to do, but how do you make yourself do it? That’s the $50 million—that’s right there.” – Mel Robbins (19:06)
• On the comfort zone, negativity bias, and the ‘landing’ analogy in habit formation:
  • “Motivation is complete and utter garbage. You’re never going to feel like doing what you need to do. You have to force yourself to do it.” – Mel Robbins (20:29)
  • “Think about change like climbing a staircase with landings. ...You’re still up that flight of stairs... you didn’t lose that flight you already climbed.” – Mel Robbins (22:42)
• Discussion about “Quitters Day”—day 19 where most people give up new habits.

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4. Sex, Relationships, & Porn in Modern Life with Dr. Laura Berman

(23:46 – 29:53)

• Addresses open questions about porn consumption and its impact on relationships and youth.
• Academic and clinical perspective:
  • “The brain is perceiving what you’re seeing on the screen as 2D, not 3D... men who are watching a lot of porn ...are having a harder time getting aroused by a three-dimensional woman or man or whoever they’re with. So they have to watch porn in order to get aroused while they’re having sex.” – Dr. Laura Berman (26:58)
• Discusses the dopamine hit, escalation, and replacement of genuine intimacy, expressing a shift toward caution as internet porn becomes more accessible.
• Dr. Berman’s new book ("Sex Magic") aims to help individuals and couples harness sexual energy for deeper connection:
  • “It’s teaching you how to access the energy of your sexuality so it’s not just located in your genitals, but you can run it through your body, circle it between you... really connect on a deeper, profound level.” – Dr. Laura Berman (28:30)

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5. Spirituality, Mediums, & Connecting with Lost Loved Ones with John Edward

(32:39 – 41:45)

• Kate and Oliver bring their mother, Goldie Hawn, for an intimate conversation with psychic medium John Edward.
• John describes his upbringing and journey to becoming a renowned medium, starting with skepticism due to his police officer father but transformed by a startlingly accurate adolescent reading.
  • “She told me that I would change the way millions of people looked at her subject matter... and everything she told me happened.” – John Edward (34:33)
• John breaks down the difference between "visits" (from deceased loved ones) and dreams, bringing comfort:
  • “[A visit] is where they're coming through directly to you, and they're going to let you know that it's them...when you wake up, you won’t forget it.” – John Edward (37:22)
• On the soul, consciousness, and what happens after death:
  • “I think that they're more real than we are. I think the vibration and the frequency that they operate on is a more real dimension of the essence of who we truly are ...our soul is the actor, and the lifetimes that we've been in are the roles.” – John Edward (38:57)
  • “They don’t miss it because they’re with us. They’re still connected.” – John Edward (40:38)
• Goldie and Kate share emotional responses to messages from the beyond, seeking comfort in the enduring presence of loved ones.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the awkwardness of early acting gigs:
  “My job was to actually... deliver the dessert. I was like, yo, I’m not acting—I’m a goddamn delivery boy!” – Anthony Anderson (06:49)
• On Hollywood nerves and epic auditions:
  “I went in with a … I didn’t give a. Are we done? We fucking done? Let’s go. And I walked out the door and they were like, we love this guy.” – Anthony/Hugh Jackman (13:04)
• On the real struggle with addiction and change:
  “Drinking myself into a ground, destroying my marriage, not paying bills ...is now harder than getting out of bed.” – Mel Robbins (20:17)
• On porn’s impact in the digital age:
  “You need ... heightened [stimulation] to get the same effect. ...So that’s kind of dangerous, right?” – Dr. Laura Berman (25:21)
• On the reality of spirit visits:
  “A visit is where they’re coming through directly to you... you won’t forget it. You could have had it 50 years ago, and you’ll remember it like it was five minutes ago.” – John Edward (37:23)
• On love after death:
  “They don’t miss it because they’re with us. They’re still connected.” – John Edward (40:38)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:39 – Sibling Revelry intro and Kate/Oliver’s playful dynamic
• 05:23 – Anthony Anderson shares his hilarious first job story
• 08:05 – First “professional” acting jobs, breaking into the industry
• 17:54 – Mel Robbins on habit change and recovery
• 23:46 – Dr. Laura Berman on porn, sex, and relationships
• 32:39 – John Edward on growing up psychic and visits from the beyond
• 38:57 – John Edward explains consciousness, afterlife, and continuing bonds with loved ones

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Episode Tone & Atmosphere

Informal, unguarded, and encouraging, this episode captures Sibling Revelry’s essence: the complex, funny, sometimes messy reality of siblings and family, punctuated by moments of insight, vulnerability, and deep connection. Kate and Oliver’s humor and curiosity set the inviting tone for deep dives with their eclectic guests, making this “Best Of” episode a resonant sampler for new listeners and longtime fans alike.

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Transcript

[Oliver Hudson]

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[Kate Hudson]

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[Oliver Hudson]

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[Dr. Laura Berman]

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[Oliver Hudson]

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[Dr. Laura Berman]

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[Kate Hudson]

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[Hugh Jackman]

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[Oliver Hudson]

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[Dr. Laura Berman]

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[Kate Hudson]

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[Hugh Jackman]

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[Kate Hudson]

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[Oliver Hudson]

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[Kate Hudson]

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[Dr. Laura Berman]

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[Kate Hudson]

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[Oliver Hudson]

Hi, I'm Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Huds.

[Kate Hudson]

We wanted to do something that highlighted

[Oliver Hudson]

our relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling revelry. No, no sibling revelry.

[Dr. Laura Berman]

Don't do that with your mouth.

[Oliver Hudson]

Sibling revelry.

[Kate Hudson]

That's good.

[Oliver Hudson]

It's the best of sibling revelry. All right, we have Anthony Anderson.

[Hugh Jackman]

Is he here?

[John Edward]

Oh, great.

[Oliver Hudson]

Who's been a friend of mine for a long, long time.

[Kate Hudson]

Yes.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, let's. Let's bring him in. Love him to see if he feels that he is powerful. Powerful.

[John Edward]

What up?

[Hugh Jackman]

What's going on?

[Oliver Hudson]

How's it going? There's two of you.

[Hugh Jackman]

Yeah.

[John Edward]

Hey, you know what?

[Hugh Jackman]

I always have to watch my back.

[John Edward]

Okay.

[Hugh Jackman]

Okay. I. I have a quick question. Kate, where the hell are you? Because Oliver looks like he's in his closet.

[Kate Hudson]

I've never done.

[Hugh Jackman]

I mean, I can see his dirty drawers.

[Oliver Hudson]

Kate's like an English countryside.

[Hugh Jackman]

Kate looks like she's in a dark English manner.

[Oliver Hudson]

She's actually in Universal City at the Harry Potter exhibit. I'm in my son. Like, I don't have my own space in this house, so I just have to find any place that I can settle down in.

[Kate Hudson]

When was your first, like, job job?

[Hugh Jackman]

Ooh, my first job job. My first job job that I got. I thought as an entertainer's artist. I was Captain Cravings. I was at Howard University, and this gourmet dessert delivery company needed a ma, so they. So they came to Howard. I don't know how they ended up at Howard. And they wanted an actor and so they came into the School of Fine Arts and what they were doing. So I met with these guys and I got the gig, and I shot this little commercial for them in D.C. this little regional thing for them. And they loved it so much that they made me the mascot. But my job was to actually. This was. This was. This was Uber Eats. Before it was Uber Eats, I used to. I had to deliver the. The. The dessert to. To these offices. I was like, yo, man, I'm not acting. I was like, yo, I'm a go buy delivery. But it was. It was my first acting game because I was in full cost, was Captain Cravings. That's my name.

[Kate Hudson]

Captain Cravings is great.

[Hugh Jackman]

I had on a black pair of dance tights. I had on some Chuck Taylors with. Fortunately, there are no pictures to cooperate.

[Kate Hudson]

I was gonna say, where can we find these?

[Hugh Jackman]

I had some bedazzled Chuck Taylors. I had on a white Cravings Catering sweatshirt. I had on a pink cape. I had on some silver. A silver Lone Ranger mask, rhinestone, and gloves to match. And on the back of the tape, it said Captain Cravings. And it said, if you ever need to be saved, dial 797-Crave and I had to fucking. That was my first acting gift.

[Kate Hudson]

Now, did you have to show up delivering things in the outfit?

[Hugh Jackman]

That was the only way I could deliver the things.

[Oliver Hudson]

You must have gotten so laid in the outfit.

[Hugh Jackman]

I said, if you ever. I said, if anybody ever orders this from Howard University, it will never be delivered by me.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, my God.

[Kate Hudson]

That's a good. That's a good version.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's funny, dude.

[Hugh Jackman]

That was my. That was my first acting gig now. My first professional gig.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, like, what.

[Hugh Jackman]

Where.

[Kate Hudson]

Like, where'd you got your SAG card?

[Hugh Jackman]

Yeah, on my resume was. I want. It was a Roger Foreman film called Alien Avengers, and I was in it with George Wayne. And I'll never forget this. At the end of the day, I went to say goodbye to George, and he was sitting out on the step of it. We had these double bangers. He was sitting on the step of his double banger with an ice chest full of beer. And I was like, oh, shit, it's real. It's real. He really is the guy from tears. I had a beer with George Wynne at the end of the day. Wow. Alien Avengers, the Roger Corman film was.

[Oliver Hudson]

And were you. Were you hyped? Was this just huge?

[Hugh Jackman]

Oh, it was huge for me.

[John Edward]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, that's what I mean.

[Hugh Jackman]

Yeah, it was. It was huge for me. It was it was one day's worth of work, you know, maybe two scenes in something really campy. But it was fun. And I got to work with some great people, and I get to say that was my claim to fame. That's how I got my SAG card.

[John Edward]

Hugh Jackman.

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, Hugh, I want to. Hold on. I want to start this whole thing off by saying that before you came on, I asked Kate a very poignant question, because I know that you guys get a thousand of the same questions every single day when you're doing these press junkets.

[John Edward]

Right.

[Oliver Hudson]

But I asked Kate, what does Hugh Jackman smell like? Because she's with you all the time through the sweaty moments, through the tender moments. And, you know, she gave a very nice answer. So why don't you. Why don't you tell him why he's a girl's head.

[Hugh Jackman]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

And then I thought, well, this is a really fun thing to do with any co star. I feel like you. I said, like grass. Like freshly cut grass.

[Hugh Jackman]

Oh, I. Wow.

[Kate Hudson]

Do you like that?

[Hugh Jackman]

I mean, first of all, I love that smell. I told you meant like grass.

[Kate Hudson]

That's.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's how I smell.

[Hugh Jackman]

That is not me. I mean, in the past, maybe not me now.

[Kate Hudson]

That was the smell.

[Hugh Jackman]

I'm sure there's been some funk in some points and there's.

[John Edward]

But.

[Kate Hudson]

But even in those moments, you're always kind of. There's like a freshness. Oh, yeah, you're. You've got a. And then we went into other co stars and then even the guys, even the, the people that I work with on Running Point and started to get weird.

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, the Ike Baron, the Ike Barinholtz smell was spot on. She said, like, it's a Michelin star brisket with some caramelized onions.

[Hugh Jackman]

That's very edible.

[Oliver Hudson]

Australia is where you made, you know, hey. In the beginning. Correct. And as an actor. And then did you then graduate to sort of the States or were you.

[John Edward]

Were you a.

[Oliver Hudson]

Were you a known entity in Australia before anyone knew you in this?

[Hugh Jackman]

I did a. I sort of came out from drama school and did a TV series which made me semi known. And then I did a couple of things on stage which sort of may be known. And I think I was semi known. You know, I was. No, I wasn't Nicole Kidman or, you know, Russell Crowe, but I was there and then went to England to do Oklahoma, and that was a big hit over there. And I auditioned for X Men from that, and so.

[John Edward]

But it was.

[Hugh Jackman]

X Men was a massive game. It was like A I was here and then massive, oh, shit.

[Oliver Hudson]

So it was literally Oklahoma. To X Men, right?

[Hugh Jackman]

I auditioned with a perm in my hair. I put on a baseball cap. And I remember the casting agent going, I don't think the baseball cap's a great idea. I took it off. She was, I think it's a good idea.

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, do you remember your audition for X Men? I mean, totally. You do. Did you bring the voice already? Is that your interpretation?

[Hugh Jackman]

I think I can't remember that, but I remember Adeline. Here's one of the great bits of luck. I had to go in between. It was a Wednesday, and I had to go in between the matinee and the evening show was a long show. We came down to five, I had to be back by seven. So I go into town, I ran into town and I'm waiting to do this audition. And I remember just going, they knew I had a show. And I was like, I've got to go, I've got to go. I gotta go. And finally I did the dick thing. I sort of. Someone left. I knocked on the door, I said, guys, I gotta go. And they said, well, you're not next. I said, that's cool. I've got a show to do. So I'm out. Thanks. All the best. But I was pissed. I was pissed and didn't give a. And in whatever nerves I had about doing it, I was just like, whatever. And I went in there with, of course. Perfect for Wolverine, right?

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Hugh Jackman]

So I went in with a. I didn't give a. Are we done? We fucking done? Let's go. And I walked out the door and they were like, we love this guy. Let's get him back. And then my. My next audition, I was like, what would you like? Right?

[Oliver Hudson]

So with my oldest son, Wilder, leaving for college in May. Cute. Tears rolling down my face right now, one of my New Year's resolutions is to take my family on more getaways. So we just got back from colorad, and now we're trying to figure out where we want to head next. And a great way to find inspiration is by looking at places on Airbnb. It's like you can just scroll through and dream. Now, if you're planning any trips over the winter, you could be hosting your own home on Airbnb. Now, with the Airbnb Co Host Network, you could hire a local co host to handle everything, like creating your listing, managing reservations, guest communication, on site support, and even styling your space. So while you're making your own memories, your home can be helping another family make theirs and earning extra cash. Find a co [e-mail] host so when I'm busy it can be hard to make healthy choices, but Premier Protein is a great solution. It's the easy and delicious way to power your day. They have 30 grams of protein, 160 calories, no added sugar, and they taste amazing. They're a healthy choice that I actually want to make. So my favorite flavor? I got two. I love the cinnamon and I love the chocolate peanut butter. I go between big cinnamon family, but chocolate peanut butter? You cannot go wrong with those two combinations. It feels like a total treat. It takes a lot of energy to keep up with my three crazy active kids and Premier Protein powers me to say yes to more. So find your favorite [e-mail] that's P R E M I E R protein.com or at Amazon, Walmart and other major retailers

[Kate Hudson]

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[Oliver Hudson]

Are you a parent who feels guilty about screen time?

[Kate Hudson]

No.

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, no, not you sweetheart, but your mommy and daddy do.

[Kate Hudson]

Why?

[Oliver Hudson]

Because too many apps are filled with AI garbage, inappropriate videos, and random content

[Dr. Laura Berman]

like a dancing potato or worse.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's what parents worry about. We're Lingokids and we're here to help parents out. Lingokids is the number one entertainment platform for young kids because kids love it and parents can trust it. They want something safe and fun. Yes, fun, but also Something that actually

[Hugh Jackman]

teaches you big words like fomosynthesis. Fomosynthesis. Fomosynthesis.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, close enough. And they want fun songs, videos, and interactive games that help you grow, not

[Kate Hudson]

turn you into a zombie that bites other zombies and then the zombies take over the world and then fly to space. Space.

[Hugh Jackman]

And live on the moon and fly

[Kate Hudson]

in rocket ships on planets with loads of candy.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yep, Everything kids love.

[Kate Hudson]

Download the app for free. Oh, well, I'll never get in that water again.

[Oliver Hudson]

This is Oliver Hudson here, and I'm actually live with an incredible guest, Mel Robbins. And my mother. I'm speaking quietly now. I've read her book, the Let them Theory, and it's incredible. But I am speaking quietly because my mom and Mel, they have really hit it off.

[Kate Hudson]

They're currently right to my left, but

[Oliver Hudson]

before we even got the mic set

[Kate Hudson]

up, they are up, up and away.

[Oliver Hudson]

They're excluding me right now, which is fine. I will work my way in. Right now I'm just commentating on their conversation. These two beautiful blondes are just going at. Let's join their conversation now. Already in progress.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, but you know what you have done, which is so interesting and I've got so many. We've got so many questions. But you're also looking at human behavior. Yes. You're also looking at where we can go to actually heal. How are we going to be able to understand like you did, you know, the five second rule or whatever, which was amazing. And get people off, you know, off. Because they're. They're thinking of all kinds of reasons why not to do something. Yes. Get them going. My childhood was fine. It was in my 40s when things got horrible.

[Oliver Hudson]

Were you drinking a lot?

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, hell yes.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, you were.

[Kate Hudson]

Absolutely.

[Oliver Hudson]

And that was. There was a numbing effect. That was, that was.

[Kate Hudson]

You want to know how bad things got? This is how you know you're failing at parenting.

[John Edward]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

When the kids go to bed, you start drinking Manhattans, like four or five of them. And then the next thing you remember is when you wake up in a chair in the living room because your three kids have missed the bus and they're making you up. That's how you know you're failing at this parenting thing. And so that was happening.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

And what you know, and this is the thing that I talk about a lot because I experienced it, is you can know what to do.

[John Edward]

Right.

[Kate Hudson]

But how do you make yourself do it? That's the $50 million that's right there.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's it, right there.

[Kate Hudson]

That's it right there. I knew I needed a job. I knew I needed to stop screaming at Chris. I knew I needed to stop yelling at the kids. I knew I needed to tell my parents what was happening. I knew I needed to open the bills that had been piling up for six months. I couldn't do it. And what all the psychologists in researching the various books I've written and now I feel confirmed by my own experience and you of course know this is that there is a tremendous relationship between pain and the will to change. And it's a fantasy to think that most of us are positively motivated to change. The human brain, because of the negativity bias, is actually wired to default towards what's easy. Now you have to make a conscious, intentional decision to force yourself to do things that feel hard if you wanna change. And for most of us, I am very negatively motivated. So I'm stubborn. Like, it took a lot of pain for me to get to a point where I'm like, well, drinking myself into a ground, destroying my marriage, not paying bills, feeling this level of shame sitting here is now harder than getting out of bed.

[Oliver Hudson]

I can relate to that so much

[Kate Hudson]

and so understanding that you can either let your life get worse before it gets better because it's going to, it's going to get worse, or you can decide that where you're at is no longer where you want to be and you can recognize you're never. Motivation is complete nutter garbage. You're never going to feel like doing what you need to do. You have to force yourself to do it. That's the skill.

[Oliver Hudson]

Did you have a lot of stop and starts?

[Kate Hudson]

Always, yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Every day I'm speaking with my own experience.

[John Edward]

Boom.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm fucking on it. I'm not going to drink anymore. I'm going to be healthy. I'm going to get my life together and bang. It's great. Three weeks and then. Oh no, what happened? Here I am again.

[Kate Hudson]

Yes. You listened to how you felt instead of focusing on what you need to do.

[John Edward]

Right.

[Oliver Hudson]

And so at what point did that. Was that true inflection point where it was just like, okay, here we are. I am moving on to the next part of my life.

[Kate Hudson]

So I think you change your life with one decision. The results of that decision show up over time. There's a big difference between the will and the desire to change, which begins with a singular decision. And the results that show up because you keep showing up. And it is always fits and starts. It is a myth that you will be perfect. Like A robot. In fact, Strava is this great fitness app.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm on it.

[Kate Hudson]

Well, they've crunched all the data, and there's actually a day that is called Quitters Day. Based on hundreds of millions of pieces of data. Day 19 is the average day when people quit. And the reason why is because you have forced yourself to start something new. You have recognized that it's gonna be challenging, and you've pushed yourself through it. But by day 19, it's now grueling and boring, and you don't see the results yet. And that's when most people. And you're not getting a dopamine reaction. Correct. And that's when most people give up. Is right around day 19. And what I love, though, is this piece of research, because a lot of us, we are always going to go in fits and starts. That's just how it goes. And so I want you to think about change. Like climbing a staircase with landings. When you go up a flight of stairs, if you get to a landing, you're still up that flight of stairs.

[John Edward]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

The landing is just a plateau. And most of us think that we failed. No, no, no. It's just a plateau. You still keep the gain.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

When you go up the next flight and push yourself again after not going to the gym for the week, you didn't lose that flight you already climbed. And it's a mistake to think you're going back to zero because you're not giving yourself the credit for how far you've come.

[John Edward]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yes.

[Kate Hudson]

Also, there's an idea that once you get excited about what you're doing. Right. It's like playing the piano. You love your first lessons. They're really terrific. Yeah. But you can't learn to play the piano in a day or a month or even six months. You have to stay practicing all the time.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right.

[Kate Hudson]

In order for that to happen. And it's the same thing with behavior. It's the same thing with creating more habitual behavior in your. In your brain. So we have to realize and be patient with ourselves to know. And that's what. That's. I love that analogy. That's the landing.

[Oliver Hudson]

Dr. Laura Berman.

[Kate Hudson]

Let's talk about porn. Because I feel like this is like, a big topic of conversation, like, also with girls, you know, how much porn do you watch together? How do you watch porn together? Do you not watch porn together? Do you find that if your partner's watching porn without you, that's a version of cheating? Do they hide the fact that they. You know, I feel like it's such a. It's such a thing.

[Oliver Hudson]

And also, also have a quick along those lines. I know porn is sort of seen as negative, which of course it is. It's infiltrating sort of the young minds and giving them a different idea of sex and what pleasure is and what the sexual experience is. Like. It is part of a natural evolution. I say natural because everything is evolving naturally, even though through tech. But is there any positivity to porn? You know?

[Dr. Laura Berman]

Yeah, well, so this is interesting even for me, because I've been doing this for 30 years and until Pornhub went free. If you asked me this question unequivocally, I would say, you know what? There is definitely a place for porn in a healthy relationship. I am not anti porn. I think it can be used as long as it's not replacing sex or getting in the way of sex. You know, keeping in mind that it's not really a reasonable, you know, expression of what pleases a woman and what bodies look like and all those. It's not a good sex education, let's just put it that way. Now I actually feel differently about it because it has become so accessible and insidious and what happens. And they've now started to look at people's brains. And this is really fascinating and also scary. What they found is when you are looking at porn, so let's just take a guy who's looking at porn or a young boy who's looking at porn. The brain is perceiving what you're seeing on the screen as 2D, not 3D. So you're creating a neuropathway and a brain penis or brain body reaction to a two dimensional object, not a three dimensional person. And what they're finding is so two things. One, porn stimulates the dopamine centers. And that's the same part of the brain that lights up when you do coke. It's the addiction part of the brain. And just like with coke, you need more and more and more. Well, with porn it's not just more and more and more. You need heightened. Okay, I've seen enough of the post. You know, the teacher and the student. Now that doesn't do it for me anymore. Doesn't stimulate me. Now I need sm now I need choking. Now I need violence now. You know, you have to keep upping the ante to get the same effect. So that's kind of dangerous, right? The second thing is that you are training the body to respond to 2D versus 3D. So what they're Seeing is that men who are watching a lot of porn, especially when they start young, but even for older men are having a harder time getting aroused by a three dimensional woman or man or whoever they're with. So they have to watch porn in order to get aroused while they're having sex.

[Kate Hudson]

Also, I wonder how it like leads. There's all this, you know, like how it leads into sort of live, like the, the video, you know, all the video stuff.

[Dr. Laura Berman]

Slippery.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh my God. I had a friend who found out that their partner was like completely addicted to.

[Dr. Laura Berman]

It's really addictive.

[Kate Hudson]

And I was just like, yeah, but I think that goes the thing like, is that. I mean, I guess it's how you define cheating.

[Dr. Laura Berman]

But I would feel so.

[Kate Hudson]

It would feel awful for me if

[Dr. Laura Berman]

I was in that, you know. Well, historically, like before I would have said, okay, I get it, that it makes you feel insecure, but you have to understand that this is fantasy, right? And he doesn't want to be with that porn star. He wants to be with you. And all men self stimulate and this is just what he's doing now. I feel differently because of what's been happening and I do think that so many men and women, but it's mostly men and young boys are getting into this cycle where they're addicted and they would rather go and you know, take care of themselves quickly watching some porn than engaging sex, starting to replace sex with their partner. And that does feel like a betrayal.

[Kate Hudson]

Why did you write Sex Magic? Where did this come from? Why another book? You know, what, like, what moved you to do it and what do you want? What, what person? Like, what are they gonna get from this book that you hope that they get from this book?

[Dr. Laura Berman]

It's really about how to create that intense excitement. And long term or any relationship is for singles and people in relationship. But I wrote it because people are looking for that dopamine hit. They're looking, they're looking in all the wrong places for excited intensity, which is that erotic excitement and feeling. And I could give, you know, I don't. I've done all the books, giving you all the tips, tools, role plays and everything. And you. That's fine. And I love that this is making sex into. Into a sacred energy exchange. It's teaching you how to access the energy of your sexuality so it's not just located in your genitals, but you can run it through your body, you can circle it between you. It teaches you to release the inhibitions that are in the way and really connect on a deeper Profound level emotionally, but especially centrally in sexual. And that's really what I've been teaching my couples for years. But it finally dawned on me, like, oh, this is what people are looking for when they keep asking me, how do you spice it up? How do you spice it up? They're looking for intense excitement. They're looking for that feeling. So that's what I'm teaching you to do in sex magic. And it uses all those ancient techniques. It's basically making modern and accessible Tantra, kundalini, Kamasutra, Taoism. They knew how to get down.

[Oliver Hudson]

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[Kate Hudson]

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[Dr. Laura Berman]

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[Kate Hudson]

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[Hugh Jackman]

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[Kate Hudson]

See? They're happy. I'm happy.

[Hugh Jackman]

Bingo.

[John Edward]

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[Oliver Hudson]

Hey, quiet. I'm trying to do an intro.

[Kate Hudson]

Hi, honey.

[Oliver Hudson]

No, Mom.

[Kate Hudson]

Hi, Mommy.

[Oliver Hudson]

Everyone, everyone be quiet. I'm trying to do an intro.

[Kate Hudson]

Okay, I'm sorry.

[Oliver Hudson]

What I was going to say before anyone spoke was that we have John Edward here, who is a world renowned medium and he was. We're lucky enough to be graced in his presence.

[John Edward]

Kate.

[Oliver Hudson]

Here's what I was going to say. Kate couldn't be here because she's working. And then I was gonna say, but we have another incredible human being here who happened to give birth to myself. Her name is Goldie Hawn, better known as my mother, who is here as well.

[Kate Hudson]

Proud to be.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right.

[Kate Hudson]

She's also my mother and gave birth to me.

[Oliver Hudson]

But in this scenario you weren't here yet, so I'm. Oh, right, right. Remember that.

[Kate Hudson]

When did you ever see stick to a script is what I want to know.

[Oliver Hudson]

Never. I stick to ideas and then the ideas go left and right. I'm feeling the revelry.

[John Edward]

I'm feeling it.

[Oliver Hudson]

You're feeling the revelation.

[Hugh Jackman]

Yes.

[Oliver Hudson]

But you know, look, we've grown up with the psychics and mediums. Mom has been extremely involved in this. Then of course, myself and my sister are as well. I've consulted oracles of, you know, should I do this job or not? I'm like, mom, call somebody. I don't know if I should do this gig or not. You know, Mom's like, okay, hold on. Speed dial, speed dial, speed dial, speed dial. So I wanted to bring Mommy in too, to have this experience.

[Kate Hudson]

I know.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm excited of John for a long, long time.

[Kate Hudson]

I mean, really, really happy to meet you, John. And I'm excited. And all the amazing work that you have done over these years and literally, you know, brought in With a gift and how you've used it is extraordinary. So you've helped a lot of people. And I know that when you were born and you were a little boy and you were having all of these visions and things, I mean, looking at it as a kind of a game for you, you know, little did you know at that time the impression that you're going to have on so many people. So, anyway, it's a pleasure.

[John Edward]

Wow. Thank you. Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Let's start there. Where did you grow up?

[John Edward]

I grew up on Long Island, a small town called Glencoe. My dad, Irish American, New York City police officer. Career military guy.

[Oliver Hudson]

Wow.

[John Edward]

Mom very Italian. One of eleven. My grandmother was very into this subject matter, so therefore, her children were open to the subject matter. My dad was not. So there was a polar opposite of belief. And my dad's rule was, make sure my son is never around any of that bs. And my mom made sure that I was kept away from it. They wound up divorcing. We moved into my grandmother's house, which I always jokingly refer to as the paranormal hub of activity. But I had adopted my dad's philosophy that this wasn't real. So I used to make fun of all the people that came to my grandmother's house to do readings. Until I met one woman who read for me. And she was the woman who put me on my path. And I was 15, and she told me that I would change the way millions of people looked at her subject matter. And I want to emphasize again, I was 15, and she sounded like she was batshit crazy. And I was like, okay, this woman is delusional. But everything she told me happened. And she told me things that there's no way possible she could have like. I would have had to tell her these things, and then she would have had to know the people I was connected to. And then she gave me scenarios and outcomes that were not logical, and then they happened. And that got my attention. And I say very openly that I didn't go, oh, my God. She told me that I was psychic. I'm gonna go do readings. I actually felt violated. I felt like this woman walked around my life. I didn't like it. And I wanted to know, well, if people can do this, like, if this, like, is real, how do I stop? How do I stop other people from, like, doing. Like, what if people can just, like, do that? And that sent me to the public library, where I read every book in 1985 that was on the shelf at that time was under the occult section, and at that moment I was like, well, this is not psychic. This is common sense. Like, we all have these moments of, like, seeing your dead grandfather. And I would ask people, like, at school, have you ever seen your dead grandfather? And the responses were, normally, no. Like, you've never ever just hypothetically got a glimpse of somebody in your family that was dead? And they were like, I can't say that I had. So I kind of realized that, okay, so maybe some of my earlier experiences had to be reframed, and that became a journey of, like, analyzing what I experienced, what I see, hear, and feel. How do I perceive things? And then I just dove headfirst. And within a year, I was doing readings at 16. Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

What happens when you're seeing things and you don't know why? And it feels so real, and then you wake up the next morning and you feel like you've been blessed? What is that?

[John Edward]

That's a visit.

[Kate Hudson]

What?

[John Edward]

That's a visit.

[Kate Hudson]

It's a visit.

[John Edward]

That's a visit. That's a difference. There's a difference between a visit and a dream. Dreams fade. And dreams are this, like, amalgamation of what, like, kind of comes together in our unconscious mind with, like, life and fears and thoughts and. But a visit is where they're coming through directly to you, and they're going to let you know that it's them. And it's usually positive and very vivid. They sometimes look vibrant or young, and there could be little nuggets of information about your future to validate that it was really them. But when you wake up, you won't forget it. You could have had it 50 years ago, and you'll remember it like it was five minutes ago, right? Because it was an encounter. It was a real meeting.

[Kate Hudson]

My other, bigger question is that I'm filled with so much love when I'm talking to someone on the other side from a facilitator like that. What are they feeling? Do they have emotions? Where are these entities? What do they feel like? Because when Daddy says to me, you know, make sure you put away the butter, you know, that was something he always told me. No one knows that. But what did Daddy feel, you know, when my mom came to me and said things to me about the laughs we had and so forth in the car, My point is, I would like to know that they're in some form that is real. So when you're doing this and you see the people, you hear them, they're speaking to you, you're sharing. What do you think they're feeling?

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, I guess the idea is consciousness. Like, what is consciousness? When we die, does our consciousness die?

[John Edward]

So I think that they're more real than we are. I think the vibration and the frequency that they operate on is a. Is a more real dimension of the essence of who we truly are. And that here in the physical form, we're lowering our vibration and we're now playing a role. Right. You guys are amazing actors, and you've been in so many different things, but at the core, you're you. But you played roles. You're not the roles you played. However, each role you played contributes to who you are in your body of work. So if our soul is the, you know, the actor and the lifetimes that we've been in are the roles we're an amalgamation of all of that. And then that tapestry we've all been a part of, you have been probably in multiple lives and multiple incarnations. And now that just reinforces what your relationship dynamic is. And that's love. Right. The pure essence of who they feel like is coming from a place of love, and that's what they want to convey. So I always want people to know that they're okay, we're not. They're doing all right, and they're still with us. And when they come through, they're going to come through with like regular, everyday, trivial, mundane things. Things that are not groundbreaking or earth shattering, but stuff to say, hey, I know that you did that, and by the way, I was with you when you did that.

[Kate Hudson]

Exactly. I mean, I don't want to go into stuff in my life, but truly, it's what it is. But I wanted to say and have, thank you so much for being here, I miss you so much and so forth. But these are very human sort of longings and emotion.

[John Edward]

They don't have that. Now. That's a. That's a really.

[Kate Hudson]

That's what I wanted to get at.

[John Edward]

That is really important. Many people will say, well, do they miss me? And I have to be honest to be like, not really. And they go, well, what do you mean they don't miss me? And I'm like, well, they still have us. We miss what we don't have physically, but they're still participants in our lives. So they don't miss it because they're with us. They're still connected. And I always want people to include them. Like, people include them in the negative times, but they don't always include them in the positive times. So I'm like, always be 50% of the equation when it's a You know, a boring day. So, like, on my Instagram feed one day, I was like, you know what? There's nothing going on. My mom's passed. Like, there's no birthdays, there's no anniversaries. I posted a photo of her and me when I was a little boy, and I just put it up as a post just to honor my mom. And I thought about it after the fact, and I was like, you know, she's probably like in the other side going, look, look, look, my son just posted something on earth o gram. You know, look, look, look, here it is. And there's.

[Oliver Hudson]

There's no.

[John Edward]

There's no reason for me to have done it. But just to include her and honor her in a way that I was feeling.

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[Oliver Hudson]

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[Dr. Laura Berman]

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