Manifest This with Anthony Anderson

Summary

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Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson

Episode: Manifest This with Anthony Anderson

Date: November 10, 2025
Guest: Anthony Anderson

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Episode Overview

In this lively and insightful episode, Kate and Oliver Hudson welcome acclaimed actor and comedian Anthony Anderson to discuss family, the power of manifestation, navigating personal and professional challenges, and the joy of feeding (and entertaining) others. The conversation touches on the unique sibling dynamics in Anderson's childhood, his journey from Compton to Hollywood, and the spiritual tools he uses to stay focused and achieve his dreams.

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Main Discussion Points

1. The Nature of Power and Family Influence

00:20 – 08:41

• Kate reflects on being honored at the Variety “Power of Women” event, meditating on the double-edged sword of power.
  • “Power can be amazing and used in these amazing ways, or it could be, like, really destructive.” (Kate, 04:49)
• They discuss how family traditions—like instantly breaking into song—are a “family superpower.”

2. Meet Anthony Anderson: Sibling Bonds and Early Life

09:00 – 14:22

• Anthony shares candid stories about growing up in Compton as the eldest of four siblings.
  • “Born and raised in Compton, California... three siblings. I’m the oldest of four. Three boys and a girl. My sister’s the youngest.” (Anthony, 10:41)
• He vividly recalls the tragic loss of his younger brother in a car accident.
• Parents’ creativity: His father’s plus-size women’s clothing stores were named “Three Ds and an Angel,” referring to the siblings.
  • “The D stand for devils, but he didn’t put that on the sign outside.” (Anthony, 11:39)

3. Family Age Gaps & School Days

13:01 – 14:42

• Anthony discusses the close age range of his siblings and how his mom had him at 17.
• Describes being a “latchkey kid” and the responsibility of looking after his siblings.

4. Discovering a Calling: The Spark of Performance

14:44 – 18:18

• Anderson realized at age nine he wanted to be an actor after watching his mother in “A Raisin in the Sun.”
  • “I realized my energy was put on this earth to entertain... This is why I’m here.” (Anthony, 16:18)
• From early on, he seized every public performance opportunity—even singing “Amazing Grace” in church despite his lack of singing ability.
  • “Any chance I got to have a captive audience... I took it.” (Anthony, 17:16)

5. First Jobs and Acting Breaks

26:46 – 30:41

• Anthony reminisces about his first gig as “Captain Cravings,” a dessert company mascot (in full costume).
  • “That was my first acting gift... full costume. I was Captain Cravings.” (Anthony, 28:05)
• His first SAG card came from a Roger Corman movie, Alien Avengers, starring alongside George Wendt.

6. Breakthrough Roles & Impact of Fatherhood

30:41 – 34:38

• Landing his second-ever professional job on In The House with LL Cool J and Debbie Allen; this coincided with becoming a young father.
  • “I got to get me a television show. And two weeks later I got a television show.” (Anthony, 32:01)
• The birth of his daughter provided drive and focus, compelling him to “claim” his career and responsibly pursue his acting dream.

7. Comedy vs. Drama: Finding a Path Through Humor

36:09 – 37:23

• Anderson’s comedy emerges naturally from his upbringing and environment.
  • “Comedy was a way in. I’m funny by nature. I got it from my mother... from my friends growing up.” (Anthony, 36:23)
• His friends joke he “was never funny” but always had at least “that one” line.

8. The Power of Manifestation

41:37 – 52:58

• Anderson unpacks his philosophy on manifestation, explaining the importance of claiming what you want, being specific, and matching intention with action.
  • “I stopped wanting for things in life a long time ago because I realized I would always want... and I realized... all I did was create a want for it.” (Anthony, 42:23)
  • “I have my own little personal mantra... I claim this as my own if it’s meant for me to have, and if it’s not, it’s gonna go to Kate... or Oliver.” (Anthony, 42:55)
• Tells story of wanting to shoot a film overseas (not just Canada), specifying his request, and very soon being cast in Kangaroo Jack, filming in Australia.
• Discusses vision boards and the science and ritual of manifestation—Kate shares her nighttime intention-setting habit.
  • “Words are powerful. I started to watch what I say with regards to negative things.” (Anthony, 47:59)
  • “Sometimes being powerful can be relinquishing your power because you’re not in it.” (Oliver, 06:24)
• Oliver reflects on the evolutionary roots of negativity bias and how intentional positivity is “work.”

9. Navigating the Arts: Purpose, Privilege & Individual Journeys

50:31 – 53:19

• Discussion on the rarity and honor of making a living as an artist, and the humility required to recognize others’ unseen talents.
  • “For every one, great artist... there’s a thousand of them just as good that have never had the opportunity.” (Kate, 50:31)
• Anthony’s approach: claim only what’s meant for you and leave the rest for others.
  • “I was told that that is mine right there. That is mine right there. That is mine. I’m going to get it all... The other pieces that I leave behind, I’m leaving behind because those aren’t meant for me.” (Anthony, 51:34 & 52:48)

10. Barbecue, Friendship, and Food as Family

53:19 – 59:07

• Anderson’s passion for barbecue, inherited from his father, inspires a business with longtime friend Cedric the Entertainer: seasonings, sauces, a restaurant, and a TV show, Kings of Barbecue.
• Oliver shares his love of grilling and dreams of a backyard barbecue show.
• Both marvel at the joy of feeding friends and family, more fulfilling than eating the food itself.
  • “At the end of the day, I don’t find myself eating anything. I just find myself feeding people and just enjoying them enjoying what I was able to prepare.” (Anthony, 58:35)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Power and Femininity:
  “Someone on the carpet was like, you know, where do you get your power from? I was like, my vagina.” (Kate, 05:27)
• On Manifestation:
  “All I did was create a want for it. I never said that it was mine. I never claimed it as my own.” (Anthony, 42:28)
• On Vision Boards:
  “Words are powerful... I write it down, and in my other room over here... I’m putting together a vision board.” (Anthony, 47:59 & 48:13)
• On Sibling Dynamics:
  “I was a latchkey kid... so it was, you know, I was like the second parent.” (Anthony, 23:49)
• On Comedy Roots:
  “If you were to talk to my friends, they’re like, Anthony was never funny... He did always give you that one that would drop you to your knees.” (Anthony, 36:23)
• On Achievements:
  “All I can be concerned about is what I’m going through and what it means to me... I am going to get all that has been told is mine.” (Anthony, 51:34)
• On Barbecue & Joy:
  “I just find myself feeding people and just enjoying them enjoying what I was able to prepare for them. That—that—yeah, that’s my thing.” (Anthony, 58:44)

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Key Timestamps for Major Topics

| Timestamp | Segment | Description | |-----------|-------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:20 | Power of Women | Kate discusses the meaning and complexity of "power" | | 10:41 | Anthony’s Siblings | Anderson introduces his family background | | 16:18 | Discovering Acting | Recounts recognizing his destiny as an entertainer | | 28:05 | First Acting Job - Captain Cravings | Humorous mascot story | | 32:01 | Breakthrough & Manifesting a Sitcom | How becoming a dad drove Anthony to land In the House | | 42:17 | Manifestation Philosophy | Deep dive into spirituality and the mechanics of manifesting | | 47:59 | Words and Vision Boards | Speaking, writing, and vision boarding as manifestation tools | | 53:19 | Barbecue Roots | Anderson's family barbecue traditions, business with Cedric | | 58:35 | Feeding Others | Discussing the emotional satisfaction of cooking for loved ones | | 51:34 | Claiming What’s Yours | Personal philosophy on ambition and respecting others’ journeys |

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Tone and Atmosphere

The episode is warm, good-humored, and candid, filled with playful sibling banter and Anthony Anderson’s infectious energy. The hosts and guest foster an encouraging environment, freely trading personal stories and hard-won insights, with laughter never far behind.

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Summary

This episode weaves Anthony Anderson’s personal and professional experiences into universal lessons about family, self-belief, hard work, and the unseen but critical power of intention. With memorable stories of childhood responsibility, unlikely acting gigs, early parenthood, heartbreak, and career triumphs, Anderson exemplifies manifesting dreams through clarity, specificity, and action. The dialogue is peppered with practical wisdom, humor, and reminders of the privilege and joy found in both artistic expression and feeding the people you love.

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Hi, I'm Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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We wanted to do something that highlighted.

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Our relationship and what it's like to be siblings.

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We are.

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A sibling rivalry.

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No, no, sibling R. For free. Don't do that with your mouth.

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Sibling revelry.

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That's good.

[B]

How was last night?

[A]

It was amazing. It was really great. It was a great night. It was just like, so many amazing women. And I. I was. It was the power of women. Variety honors. You know, we were, like, five of us were honored for the work we do outside of, like, you know, acting. And. And it was great. It was so. It was great. It was. It was. It was. I had all my girlfriends there, and all I wanted to do was hang with my girlfriends, but there was no time. We were just listening to a bunch of speeches. So we were all, like, wanted to hang and then we couldn't.

[B]

I heard the speech was good. Scotty said he helped you write it.

[A]

Yeah, the speech was great. The speech was really great. And yeah, he's. He's a good editor. Scotty's a good editor. Scotty is my brother on. On Running point.

[B]

Yes. Taking over, like, the real brother role. There's. Lines are getting blurred.

[A]

But, yeah, he's. He helped. He helped me kind of edit. You know, I overrode it. I. But it's such an interesting concept, like, to be powerful. Like, what is it. What does that mean? You know, because that's such. It's such a polarizing, actually concept. Like, it's amazing. You need it. It's vital for your life and for your life force. But then it's also so destructive and can be so destructive.

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Yeah.

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You know, so, like, when I started thinking about it, I was like, what a crazy word to, you know, the power of women. And, like. Because the power can be amazing and used in these amazing ways, or it could be, like, really destructive.

[B]

Well, you know, so there's different degrees of power in different contexts of power, you know, I mean, you're a powerful woman in your own home when you're raising your children, you know, you're a powerful woman. But.

[A]

That's right. But, but. But also, like. But there's also so many aspects to it, like, to. What does it mean to, like, where.

[B]

Does it come from?

[A]

Someone on the carpet was like, you know, where do you get your power from? I was like, my vagina. I was like, I think my vagina. But, you know, but there's. But for so many things that go with it. Because, like, powerful, like, there. It's not like a destination. Do you know what I mean? Like, to be powerful isn't a destination. It's actually something you have to like. It's used in everyday life. Like, you know, literally. Like, how people harness their own power is so specific to them, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

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Some people, they're waking up in the morning and getting up and having a positive day means they've that harnessed, like, a great, powerful day.

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100%. That's what I'm saying. Like, it can be minuscule or it can be big.

[A]

Yeah.

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And sometimes being powerful can be relinquishing your power because you're not in it.

[A]

That's right. Or like what I say, it's like the power of women is. Which is. Is the ability to be able to connect the head and the heart at the same time. You know, because we're so into. Women are so intuitive, and we're, you know, we were empathetic or nurturers by biologically, you know, by nature, where we lean more towards that.

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When they introduced you, did you walk out to the power of love?

[A]

I forgot. No, it was a Rolling Stone song. I was like, this is the best.

[B]

Oh, you should have done Huey Lewis. Don't take money.

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Don't tell me no credit card.

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That's the best.

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Oh, my God.

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This is the power problem.

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I was listening to another Huey Lewis song the other day, which was. It came up. Oh, it was the best. Someone said something, and we, you know, our family.

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This is it. That was it.

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If this love you got, let me know.

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Go, go.

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This is it.

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I love.

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And we had this whole moment with. With, you know, because we're. We're wrapping up season. And we were laughing because every time someone says something, I can think of a song because that's like our family superpower for some reason.

[B]

Yeah.

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And I broke into. Because I think Ike or someone said, well, this is it. And I was like, this is it.

[B]

Yeah.

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Please let me know.

[B]

I'm gonna play that song when. When I know you're in the car.

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By the way, do yourself a favor and blast some Huey Lewis in the car.

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Yeah. It's so good.

[A]

It's the best. Huey Lewis is the best. And when that documentary about what Quincy, when he did the. The Show. You know, when he did the song.

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Yeah.

[A]

It was so great to see. Huey Lewis was so. He was the coolest guy in there. I loved his vibe, you know, of.

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Course, he's with all these, like, Whitney Houston, what am I doing here? He was so cool.

[A]

He was so humble.

[B]

All right, we have Anthony Anderson.

[A]

Is he here?

[B]

Oh, great. He's been a friend of mine for a long, long time.

[A]

Yes.

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Yeah, let's. Let's bring him in. Love him to see if he feels that he is powerful.

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Powerful.

[C]

What's going on?

[B]

How's it going?

[C]

Hey, you know what? I always have to watch my back. Okay. Okay. I. I have a quick question. Kate, where the hell are you? Because Oliver looks like he's in his closet. I've never done. I mean, I can see his dirty draws, his gimp.

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Case. Like an English countryside.

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Looks like she's in a dark English manner.

[B]

She's actually a universal city at the Harry Potter exhibit. I'm in my son's room, man. Like, I don't have my own space in this house, so I just have to find any place that I can settle down in.

[A]

And.

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Yes. Okay, his closet is open. We get to see what this little bastard is wearing here. Look at this. Look at this. No.

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Oh, no. But you know what? You're responsible for this.

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Me?

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He's 15.

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He's.

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No, no, no.

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If he wants to live in, he can live in. Well, and I've known you for a million years, but I know nothing about your background. Like, where did you grow up? Do you have siblings? Like, where are you? How did this all start?

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First off, what kind of researchers do you have on you? Your podcast? You should have this information.

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Dude, we do.

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We do.

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It's right here.

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But the. But the. But we do it so that you answer the question.

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Okay, okay.

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You know, I can. I can read it. I can read everything about you.

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It's boring that way. So listen. Born and raised in Compton, California.

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I knew that. That.

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That you knew. Three siblings. I'm the oldest of four. Three boys and a girl. My sister's the youngest. Unfortunately, I lost my younger brother 55, 23, 24 years ago.

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Damn.

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Yeah, car accident while he was a student and playing football at West Texas. So it's two brothers and a sister. Now, me, my younger brother under me, and my baby sister. What's crazy? My father, before he passed, had plus size women clothing stores, right? And they were called three Ds and an angel named after our children. And the D stand for devils, but he didn't put that on the sign outside. So it's basically three devils and an angel.

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Genius.

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So that was that.

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That's so cute.

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Yeah.

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And, and your mom.

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I know mom. I know mom.

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Yeah. Yeah. I would know mom.

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Oh, yeah.

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Mom was doing well. She's in Carson, California. She is. She's an actress now, but before then was a telephone operator for one of the hospitals here, actually for the county of Los Angeles. But always wanted to be an actress and it never worked out for her because she's horrible. And I made it to a position where I could actually give her her chance just to live out her wildest dreams.

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Which you did. I mean, she's in everything that you touch now.

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You know what? I, I, I make it a point to do that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's amazing.

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Yeah. Yeah. But she's doing well. It's a little too early for her to be in the bingo hall, but it's, it's Thursday. She'll be at a bingo hall at 6:00 clock today.

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How old is your mom?

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She's 73. She's 18 years my, my senior. Yeah. No, 17. 17. So she's 72. She's only 17 years, so she's 70.

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She, she had you when she was 17?

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Yep.

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And her, and your, and your siblings, what are the age differences?

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I have no idea. Do you know how old your siblings are? I have no idea. My whole mind is, my brother told me how old he was. I was like, fuck, you're that old.

[A]

Of course I know how old my siblings are. What do you mean? No, I mean the age differences. Like, are you close in, are you all close in age?

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My brother's an IR. I am, I'm 55. I think my brother is turning 50 this year or. No, no, he's. I'm four years older than my brother. He's turning 50. He's turning 51 this year. My, my, my deceased brother would be 49, but crazy about them. This tells you about my parents. They like to make the love around the same, same time every year. My brother's birthday are November 15th and November 16th. Two years apart.

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Oh, my God.

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Yeah. November 15th and 16, two years apart.

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They literally. It's mating season. They have a mating season.

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Exactly. And, and my sister, my brother is 41. My sister, my other brother would have been 49. I think. My sister is 46.

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Oh, so you're all like, you're close?

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Pretty close.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And growing up, what, where'd you do, Where'd you go to school?

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I went to Roosevelt elementary in Compton, Whaley Junior High in Compton. And then I went to the Los Angeles County High School for the Performing Arts for. For high school.

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Did you know that? I mean, early on, did you know what you wanted to do? I mean, you were probably always funny, obviously.

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You know, at nine. Nine years old, I knew I wanted to play football for the Dallas Cowboys. You know, that was my dad's team, America's team. At the time, I wanted to be a lawyer, and I wanted to be an actor. And at the age of nine, I realized that if I became an actor, I could be all three of those things and whatever else I wanted to become in life. And so I. I decided to be an actor. And it happened this way. My mother was in a production of A Raisin in the sun at Compton Community College, and I was in the back of the theater with my two brothers. We were just playing as my mother was on stage and rehearsing. Rehearsing. And I just happened to look up on stage one day. Went from playing with our toys or whatever we were doing, just happened to look up, and I saw them doing their thing on stage, and I said, that is what I'm going to do with the rest of my life. And I went back to playing with my brothers, and here we are.

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I know, years later, what did. But. But what was it? What was the thing? You know, was it just the. Did it. Did it correlate to you growing up to childhood to sort of, you know, becoming something else, to immersing yourself in something different?

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I also think it's interesting that you were little and it was Raisin in the sun, which is pretty heavy, incredibly heavy. And you're like, I'm gonna.

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So first off, when I look back, I was like, what kind of production was this if my mother was in there? I was like, I didn't know it was a comedy, but yeah, yeah, it was that. And, I don't know, Oliver, you know, I realized that at a very early age. I realized that my energy was put on this earth to entertain. I was able to recognize that. That, you know, this is why I'm here. Call it naivete or foolishness, but this is all I ever prepared to do in life. And since that moment, looking up on stage, I put myself in position to learn, to study, to do anything. And any chance I got to have a captive audience, I took it. Be it. My pastor wanted me to sing his favorite song, Amazing Grace, in church. Even though I couldn't sing, I got up and sang in front of the congregation. If there was a spelling bee at school, I was the first one to join. If there was somebody that the teacher asked to read aloud, I always raised my hand. Any chance I got to have a captive audience, be in front of somebody and to do what I wanted to do, I did. And I started doing that at 9 years old. And I was like, yo, this is it. It wasn't an adrenaline thing. It wasn't like, I want to be a star. Like, no, this is why I'm here. I'm supposed to be. I'm supposed to have a captive audience.

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Did you do theater?

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A little bit. A little bit. But not. Not until, like, high school, when we were doing plays in college. But before then, you know, found myself in little things. I always found an acting class. I always found a class to hone the craft. And that started maybe around 1112.

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Were you.

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Did you study with anybody? Do you still. Do. Do you still study with people or.

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Do you know, I haven't in a while. I used to take a class, this gentleman by the name of Tony Greco. I would. I would take his classes and just things that I did in. In school or whatnot. But he was the only. A private coach that. That I had in my career.

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[B]

Going back just a second. Growing up, like, what was your, what was your household like? Was there a lot of freedom? You know, was it strict? Was or was it like, go, go do your thing, you know, just be home before dark type stuff?

[C]

No, it was free, man. You know. You know, I grew up at a time where I was a latchkey kid. You know, I'm the oldest of four children, so it was, you know, I was like the second parent, you know, getting, getting my younger brothers from daycare and all that, and then just having the house to ourselves. Growing up, I had the Yale house key on a shoestring, you know, that I would give my brothers, sisters. I come home, unlock the door, get in the house, lock the door, and then we would just, you know, we would have our freedom to. Until my mom came home and until my dad came home from work. So, yeah. And my mother, you know, again, this was all she ever wanted to do. So she was very supportive of me in the art.

[A]

And that's so great. So you did any of your other siblings, Is everybody pretty artistic like, or leaned towards the arts?

[C]

My brother, who is deceased, he had a, he had a knack for art, you know, so this is, gosh, 30, 30, 35 years ago, my brother would make art out of aluminum foil, you know, which was just amazing. He would take family portraits and repurpose them, but. But create a family portrait out of four wow. Figures of people out of aluminum foil and paint them. And I always wanted to. I always thought it was so intricate and so beautiful that my. My. Me and my other brother was like, yo, man, this needs to be on display. You know, this. People need to see this. And so for Christmas and his birthday, his birthdays, all he wanted was aluminum foil just to create wow things, man. And he created the Starship Enterprise one day, and that blew my mind.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Brother made the Star Starship Enterprise.

[B]

You still have those pieces?

[C]

I. I have. I have. I have a few pieces. He made a piece of my daughter, you know. You have. My baby was maybe not even two. Maybe 18 months. You take those little cute portraits.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Sent him a picture of it while he was in going to college. And he made my daughter. He brought her picture to life in this 3B thing and painted her and all. Gave her pigtails and everything. But, yeah, so me and my brother, that was it. The other. But my other brother, he's a trauma nurse at Martin Luther King Hospital and in the er. And my sister, she works at another hospital in. Billy.

[A]

When did you. When was your first, like, job job?

[C]

Ooh, my first job job. My first job job that I got, I thought as an entertainer's artist. I was Captain Cravings. I was at Howard University, and this gourmet dessert delivery company needed a mascot, so they. So they came to Howard. I don't know how they ended up at Howard, and they wanted an actor, and so they came into the School of Fine Arts and what they were doing. So I met with these guys and I got the gig, and I. I shot this little commercial for them in D.C. this little regional thing for them, and they loved it so much that they made me the mascot. But my job was to actually. This was. This was. This was Uber Eats. Before there was Uber Eats. I used to. I had to deliver the. The. The. The dessert to. To these offices. I was like, yo, man, I'm not acting. I was like, yo, I'm a glorified delivery.

[A]

But it was.

[C]

It was my first acting game because I was in full costume. I was Captain Cravings. That was my name.

[A]

Captain Cravings is great.

[C]

I had on a black pair of dance tights. I had on some Chuck Taylor with. Fortunately, they're not. No pictures to cooperate.

[A]

I was gonna say, where can we find these?

[C]

I had our Chuck. Some bedazzled Chuck Taylors. I had on a white Cravings Catering sweatshirt. I had on a pink cake. I Had on some silver. A silver Lone Ranger mask, rhinestone, and gloves to match. And on the back of the tape it said Captain Cravings. And it said, if you ever need to be saved, dial 797 crave. And I had to fucking. That was my first acting gift.

[A]

Now, did you have to show up delivering things in the outfit?

[C]

That was the only way I could deliver the things.

[B]

You must have gotten so laid in the outfit.

[C]

I said, if you ever. I said, if anybody ever orders this from Howard University, it will never be delivered by me.

[A]

Oh, my God. That's a good. That's a good version.

[B]

That's funny, dude.

[C]

That was my. That was my first acting gig now. My first professional gig.

[B]

Yeah, like what.

[A]

Where, like, where'd you got your SAG card?

[C]

Yeah, on my resume was. I wanna. It was a Roger Foreman film called Alien Avengers, and I was in it with George Wayne. And I'll never forget this. At the end of the day, I went to say goodbye to George and he was sitting out on the step of his. We had these double bangers. He was sitting on the step of his double banger with an ice chest full of beer. And I was like, oh, shit, it's real. It's real. He really is the guy for Cheers. I fucking Said guy had a beer with George Wynne at the. The day end of. Wow. Alien Avengers, Roger Corman film was.

[B]

And were you. Were you hyped? Was this just huge?

[C]

Oh, it was huge for me.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, that's what I mean.

[C]

Yeah, it was. It was huge for me. It was. It was one day's worth of work.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, maybe two scenes in something really campy. But it was fun. And I got to work with some great people, and I get to say that was my claim to fame. That's how I got my SAG car.

[B]

What was the gig, though, that really made you believe and understand, like, oh, shit. Like, this is it. This is now.

[C]

I'm.

[B]

I'm. I'm. I'm on my way here. You know what I mean?

[C]

My second gig, it was a half hour comedy with LL Cool J and Debbie Allen on NBC.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

In the house.

[B]

In the house. That's right. That was your second gig?

[C]

That was. That was. That was my second gig. And that was.

[A]

What year was that? 90s.

[C]

That was 95. And here's the thing. I was the first person in my friend group to have a kid. And I went to my boys. So was I. I went to my boys to tell them. Now, mind you, when I Went to my boys place. This was a place that had seven grown men living in a one bedroom, one bathroom apartment. And we affectionately called it the Cave. So I went to the Cave, you know, hang out with my boys and let them know that I was going to want to be a dad. And my boy Adam Glass, who ended up becoming my writing partner and creating my very first sitcom, all about the Andersons on the wb. We, we went out on the breezeway and he was like, what are you going to do? And I mean it was just crazy. I was like, I got to get me a TV show. And we laugh about it now because he, you know, he said, what are you going to do? I looked him dead and I said I got, I got to get me a television show. And he walked off. And two weeks later I, I got a television show.

[B]

Amazing dude.

[C]

But it was, it was, it was in the house. I did the first episode in November. My daughter was born. I did the first episode November 1995. My daughter was born February 6, 1996. And the day, the morning of February 7, I'm laying with my daughter on my chest and I'm in a refiner in, in the room. And my whole thing was is you lived to with your mother's heartbeat for the last nine months. The first heartbeat you're going to live with outside of your mother is mine. So I had her sleeping on my chest and I don't think I slept that entire night. I just stared at her. And at 6:30 that morning, my cell phone rings. It's my mom. She said, where you at? I was like, oh, what do you mean where I'm at? You know, I'm in the hospital. I just had a baby. She said, well, NBC is looking for you. I was like, for what? To go to work on what? They need you back on that show you did with the rapper. I was like in the house? She said, yeah. I said when? She said 8:30. And I was like, how do you know this? Well, they drop this back in the day when they used to drop off scripts at your crib. Yeah, they dropped off a script last night and it says you have to be there at 8:30 today. And I was like, okay. So I hung up the phone, kiss my daughter, kissed my lady and said, daddy gotta go to work. And I drove into work with pictures. I had Polaroid, I had a Polaroid camera and I had another camera. So on the way to work I went to one of those one hour photo map places and I had the pictures delivered and I Showed up at the table, read with pictures of my newborn baby and thanking them, him for this job. Because my baby was born last night, not even 12 hours.

[A]

I mean, but fatherhood must have shaped so much of your career because you had her young. So it must have been, I mean, I would assume a driving, like, definitely a motivate, a driving force.

[C]

No, it was, it was. And it got me focused and, you know, because at that time, I was, was, I was 25 at the time. Young. It's like, yo, I can, I can, I can ask, I can survive on my own. I can, I can, I can make it on my own. But the moment my lady came home and told me she was pregnant with our kid, that, that changed it, everything for me because now I'm responsible for people. I, you know, I can't go through life. It's like, you know, just figuring it out on the fly and as I go along, because I, I'm no longer a solo passenger, you know, I, I, I have people with me now that, you know, are depending on me and I'm responsible for. And, and, and having my daughter got me focused on what it was that I needed to do as an artist. And once I got focused, it was just crazy. I realized that everything was always right before me, you know, I was just focused on other shit. And becoming a father opened my eyes to all the things that I needed to be doing in order to be successful at. This is my dream. This is all I ever wanted to do with life. This is all I ever wanted.

[A]

Did you all, did you always want to do comedy? Or did you, Was that your focus or was it just to do whatever?

[B]

He's an amazing dramatic actor.

[A]

No, I mean, I know, but, but, but, but you've really made millions and millions of people laugh, you know, which is so I wonder, like, what was your, did you come into it wanting to do more of one thing?

[C]

No, I just wanted to come into it and be an artist and offer what I had. Comedy was, was a way in. You know, I'm funny by nature. I, you know, I get it from, you know, it came from inside my home. I get it. I got it from my mother, you know, I got it from my friends growing up and realized that, oh, I'm pretty good at this. Now, if you were to talk to my friends, they're like, anthony was never funny. He was never funny. They were like. But I will tell you this. He did always give you that one that would drop you to your knees. We never knew when we were going to get that one but he would always hit you with one that was like, oh, he's funny. But up until then I, I, I was nothing and, and they, they take pride in telling everything wasn't funny. It just happened.

[B]

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[C]

Great question. I believe it's. And I'm going to be all over the place with this answer, but it's going to make sense. It's all about a manifestation, you know, and seeing those things for me, for seeing those things. I never. I stopped wanting for things in life a long time ago because I realized I would always want that girl. I would always want that car. I would always want to take that trip. I would always want. I would want. Something and I would never obtain was always just outside of my grasp. And I realized a long time ago that in wanting for something, all I did was create a want for it. I never said that it was mine. I never claimed it as my own. I never saw myself having it. I just saw myself wanting those things. And I started to change the way that I thought and of things. And, you know, for meetings and auditions, I have my own little personal mantra that I would say that I claim this as my own if it's meant for me to have, and if it's meant for me, it's meant for me. And if it's not, it's gonna go to Kate. If it's not, it's gonna go to Oliver. And I can't be mad at any of that because it wasn't mine. So if I don't get the gig, if I don't get that, it wasn't mine to get. So that. That. That. That's. That's. That I learned that there's a higher power that we are connected to. And I realized this at a very early age. I realized this when I was nine years old. I realized the power that we have, but in particular, the power that I am. And. And I tell people all this all the time. I was like, it's so simple that it's difficult because you can't believe that it's this simple to tap into that and into the universe and claim and ask and. And all of that. I would always be up in Canada making these movies. Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, all these Montreal. And then one day I just said, you know, I said to myself, I said, I want to be out of the country and make a movie. And I kept going back up to Canada. And then I was like, oh, hold on.

[B]

Not that. Like, we're going to go further.

[C]

Yeah, I'm like, I'm not being specific in my ask. And it goes into specificity, right? And so I was like, well, you know what? Let me change how I ask for these things. And I specifically, specifically said, the next movie I make, I will need a passport to enter the country and it will be overseas. And I say all that because at that time, all you needed was a birth certificate to get into Canada. And you just drive right up and you, you can be there. And. And I really, I said, I was like, I keep asking for, you know, to make this, make movies out of the country, and I keep ending up in Canada. I got what I was asking for, but it was coming to me in its most general form. So it wasn't how I needed it, how I wanted it.

[A]

Smash cut to you in, like, Greenland. And you're like.

[C]

Talking about. So I, After I, after I specifically made my ass, the next movie I make will be overseas and I will need a passport to enter the country, or the next movie I make will be out of the country. I will need a passport to enter the country and it will be overseas. Three days later, after saying that, my manager calls and says, hey, aunt, Jerry Bruckheimer is doing this movie in Australia, shoots for six months. You're on a very short list. It's called Down Under. He wants to meet with you. Down under then becomes Kangaroo Jack. So I go into my meeting with Jerry o', Connell, who's already been cast in the movie. We go meet and we do a few scenes before I go into my scene. What do I do? I say my mantra. I claim this as my own. If it's meant for me to have, I go in there, have one of the best auditions I have in my life. A day or two later, I get a call. Anthony, Jerry Bruckheimer. Jerry Bruckheimer loves you. The job is yours. Now I also have. I also want to back up when I made the claim I never owned a passport. I made the claim that the next movie I make will be shot overseas. The very next day, I went to the passport office and I got a passport application. I filled it out and I went through the process of getting my very first passport. And then I get the call that Jerry Bruckheimer wants to meet me to shoot this movie.

[A]

Wow, you're a manifester.

[B]

Well, I was about to say that. So we, We've actually had people on science, scientists who believe in manifestation. But it's not like, oh, I want two feet of snow. So my skiing is good.

[C]

It's.

[B]

It's deeper and there's more physiological, actual science based, backed sort of information on why manifesting can actually work, you know, and, and for you, and I think this is really important because I was always skeptical about it. But I'm wondering for you, how did that.

[A]

How.

[B]

How does that work itself out? Do you just speak it out loud to the universe? Is that kind of how you do it? Or do you get quiet or do you write it down, or what is your process with that?

[C]

My process is all three, Oliver.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I speak it out loud because words are powerful.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, so that's why I watched what. I started to watch what I say with regards to negative things, not even about myself, but just putting negative energy out there.

[B]

I gotta work on that shit. Yeah.

[C]

I speak it out loud. I speak it in silence. I write it down. And in my other room over here, man, I have a bag of magazines and I'm putting together a vision board. So I do that as well, you know.

[A]

You do vision boards? I love that. Do you know they have. They did this thing that if you have a vision board or, or just this, the very thing you look at or you read or you are focused on right before you go to sleep is a. Is one of like the best tools of manifesting. Because your brain, that's what your brain start. That's what it basically like, rests with that thought.

[C]

But you know what, Kate? I mean, I need to start doing it. I. You know, sometimes I would think about those things and all that, but I've never really just looked at things like that before I went to sleep.

[A]

Sometimes I'll take something and I'll be like, okay. Right before I go to bed, you know, because the phone is just such a. Like, it's so awful for us, you know, So I sleep with it out. I've gotten very ritualistic about my. My night because I'm. I believe in the power of words as well. I. I believe in the power of what you're putting out and all of the positive output, you know, like my. I'm the kind of person probably like you. Or if my friends are talking, they turn to me and they're like. And I'm like, what do you. I don't do that. I don't know how to do that. I'm like, I have someone. Someone could be awful to me and I could be like, they're probably having a bad day, you know, But. But yeah. So I started doing that sort of visual thing, like, what do I want to be putting out? Like What.

[B]

What.

[A]

Or what. What do I. What am I looking for? Or what am I. Yeah, I think it's important to.

[C]

And it's.

[B]

It's work. You have to work at that. Because I'm not. I'm kind of speaking for myself, but it feels like default is negativity in a way. You know, our default is fear from a primal place.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

You know, it is we. It's our condition because we. That's how we survived. That's how humanity survived, essentially, was fear. Because that's how we either, you know, succeeded or were able to save ourselves.

[A]

For anyone who's able to work in this business as an actor or as an artist and actually make some kind of living doing it, it might not be their full living, but. But some kind of living doing it is a privilege. It's an honor, because it's so rare. And for every one, great artist, everyone, great musician, everyone, great actor, there's a thousand of them just as good that have never had the opportunity.

[B]

This is what Brewer said. The director, Kate, just did a movie called Song. Song Blue, by the way. It's fucking amazing. She's going to be nominated for all the awards. No, she is. She's incredible. It's really amazing. But Craig Brewer, you know. Do you know Craig.

[C]

Craig wrote and directed Hustle, Hustle and Flow.

[B]

Yeah, of course. That's right. Yeah, of course.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You wait till you see the movie.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Really? Okay.

[A]

He's in his pocket.

[B]

He gave a speech at the. At the premiere, and that's kind of what he was saying, just, you know, about all of the other artists out there who have not hit, who are equally as good, if not better than some of the major players in our business.

[C]

Yeah, that's exactly how it has been. You know, we all have our own individuals, individual journeys, you know, and I can't. We can't compare our journey to the next person. We have no idea what it is that they've gone through, you know, or what they're going through in the moment. All I can be concerned about is what I'm going through and what it means to me. Because if everything that I see that's out there, if I've claimed it as my own and I've been told that it is mine, I am going to get all that has been told is mine. And it has nothing to do with greed or anything. It's just like, no, I was told that that is mine right there. That is mine right there. That is mine. I'm going to get it all now. The other pieces that I leave behind, I'm leaving behind because those aren't meant for me. I wasn't told to. Just because I have the ability to take it all. I'm not taking it all. I'm taking what was told was mine because that is for somebody else. Just like somebody came into this room and into this world and took everything that was supposed to be meant for them. They left these things behind because they were meant for me. That's how it is. It's cool.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Best believe all the shit that I see that has my name tag on is coming with me, and I'm not gonna leave it behind. It's coming with me.

[A]

I love it.

[C]

It's like, oh, that's my favorite fucking piece.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's your favorite piece? Yeah. But it's my piece.

[B]

Yeah. No, I love it. It's inspiring, man.

[C]

This has been great, you know, it's my piece.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I love it. You can come with me and admire it all that you want, and I don't mind sharing it with you and all that, but best believe that's mine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Barbecue. I have. I have two Traegers. I have a Green Egg. I have a Santa Maria grill. Like, I love smoking and barbecuing. Okay. And I'm. I'm decently good at it. I wanted to get really good. Yeah. I wanted to. I was more of the old school, you know, with what you're doing. You're building, you know, cues out of barrels and.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And really doing those, like, two. Those. What are called the. The offsets, you know?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then I found the Traeger. And I know it seems like cheating, but it is so easy. I can. I can set it and forget it, and it's amazing.

[C]

Okay. You know, things are made to help people move along, get what they got to do, man. And I love it. Look, I got into barbecuing because my dad was the youngest of 16, born in Little Rock, Arkansas. Born on the.

[A]

That's where our family's from.

[C]

Little Rock.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Mom's My. My grandpa is Little Rock.

[C]

That's. That's where my. That's where my dad's from. Little Rock, Arkansas. Youngest of 16 on the farm.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

So, you know his brother was an Irish twin. He was. He's 11 months younger than my uncle a day. So they were thick as thieves and joined at the hip. So my uncle moved out to la. My father followed him, and so my dad would make his own barbecue pits out of 55 gallon drums. He'd. Weld them himself. And so that's what I grew up in. And so had this opportunity to do this barbecue brand with Cedric the Entertainer, you know, my good friend. And we're both chefs. We both love to eat, we both love to cook. And every time we take the fellas golf trip, Sid and I are the ones in the kitchen cooking for the group. Yes.

[A]

I love him.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, that's, that's.

[A]

She's the best.

[C]

Friend you could have in your life. Two, best business partner. And three, just an all around great guy. And so we had the opportunity to, you know, start this barbecue lifestyle brand. And we did. We have, you know, we have three seasonings. We have a midnight smoke. We have something we call the mvp. And we have a lemon. Our take on lemon pepper. We call it the lemon stepper. And. And we have two sauces all day and our Caroline wine. Our mustard.

[A]

Fine. Well, you said, can I, Can I send us some.

[C]

You both, you both are going to get a package of everything.

[B]

You have to because, you know, when did you start barbecuing? I mean, when did you start cooking, you know?

[C]

Oh, man. Barbecuing as a kid? Yeah, my dad did. Every weekend, my dad would. He would go fishing down along beach. He would come home, he would barbecue fish, smoke fish, barbecue ribs. I mean, he's a big ass country boy.

[B]

That's what I, dude, I, you know, I have a boat. I catch two. I fish like my face off. That's my passion, you know.

[C]

So those were the fans. How I grew up so young. Teenager father taught me how to smoke. How to smoke, how to cook with wood, charcoal.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And so it started at an early age. And. And I love it. I love it.

[A]

Oh, that sounds so fun. I want to do a barbecue party. Can we have a barbecue party?

[C]

We can have a barbecue party. Come on. I'm sure we all, between the three of us, we have some of the best backyards that we can have a barbecue party.

[A]

We could have the best barbecue party ever.

[B]

Don't you have a, do you have a show about barbecue?

[C]

We, we, we started Great set. And I created a show called the kings of barbecue basically to bring attention to us starting and building a business.

[B]

Got it.

[C]

So we were on a E for a year while we did that. And we're about to go back into production and put it on YouTube and shoot these things. The inner workings of two best friends in Hollywood starting a business.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

We were able to open a restaurant at the Westfield Century City mall called AC bbq.

[B]

That's Right.

[C]

Yeah, it's up in the food court there. We opened up in May, doing pretty well and just having a great time doing it, traveling the world, fun.

[B]

Well, it's funny because I have a deck. I created a deck for. I wanted to do a sort of a low budget backyard barbecue show in my actual home. And so. So it's almost like this reality unscripted, of me cooking, but people come out. I had it sort of formulated where you get these other chefs coming in, but it's just very sort of off the cuff. You're in my house, and I am not a professional. So it's definitely about the experience of getting.

[C]

When you do it, let me know. I want to be there for it. Oliver.

[B]

Yeah, dude. I. I love. I love it. There's so much joy in cooking, and when people eat your food and, like.

[A]

Everybody, it's the heart of everything.

[B]

Well, there are a few things in life that do that for me, you know, like fishing, and there are certain things in your kids, but when you cook something amazing and your family is eating it and they're like, holy, this is unreal. There's a pride. There's something that happens. Some oxytocin, dopamine that comes out. We were just like, oh, my God. I. There's an addiction to it. You love that feeling. That's what I love about it.

[C]

Yeah, I love it. And what's crazy at the end. At the end of the day, I don't find myself eating anything.

[B]

I don't either.

[C]

I just find myself feeding people and just enjoying.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Them. Enjoying what? What I was able to prepare for them. That. That. Yeah, that's my thing.

[B]

Yeah. Because they're like, you want to make a. You're gonna make a plate on my. Like, no, I mean, I'll pick a little, but, like, I. You know. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, we gotta cook together, dude.

[C]

Looking forward to it.

[B]

Let's do it. Let's play some golf, too. By the way, my kids, my boys became obsessed with golf, which has gotten me back into the game. So I'm playing now.

[A]

All of our kids, it's, like, crazy.

[C]

Hey, Oliver, bring them to the tournament, man. As you always. Yeah, sometimes. And they say, hey, and I'm working, or I'm with the kids now that I know the kids play. Bring him to the tournament.

[B]

Let's do it.

[A]

Wait, wasn't. Wasn't Cedric in the desert? Yes, he was at the desert.

[C]

Yeah. Third week of May. This will be my seventh or eighth year.

[B]

Yeah, I gotta. I gotta make it. This Year.

[A]

You gotta do it, Ollie. Fun.

[B]

All right, aunt. Love you, man.

[C]

Have me on it was a great conversation.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[A]

We'll see you, Sam.

[C]

You got it. All right, bye.

[B]

Love that man.

[A]

He's the best.

[B]

The best always has been just the most wonderful energy.

[A]

I know every time I see him, just always brings that incredible energy.

[B]

Just killing it. He's just. He's just always doing cool and he's so great. Yeah, Hustler works hard. All right, I gotta go. I have a pitch that I'm gonna be late for now.

[A]

All right. I love you too.

[B]

I know. It's fun talking to you.

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