Stars Tell All (Literally) Part One

Summary

Podcast Summary: Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson

Episode: Stars Tell All (Literally) Part One
Release Date: June 5, 2025
Host/Authors: Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts

---

Introduction

In the premiere episode of Sibling Revelry, Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson delve into the unique dynamics of their sibling relationship, intertwining personal anecdotes with discussions on astrology and human design. This episode, titled Stars Tell All (Literally) Part One, sets the stage for a deep exploration of family bonds, personal growth, and the influence of celestial patterns on their lives.

Sibling Revelry: Bonding and Experiences

[03:00] Kate Hudson:
"We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and what it's like to be siblings."

Kate and Oliver reminisce about their memorable summer vacation in Napa, expressing both hindsight reflections and mutual longing for shared experiences.

[03:33] Kate Hudson:
"It was absolutely packed. I was so shocked and happy—it just felt like really good energy."

[04:17] Astro Twins:
"That's awesome."

They discuss the excitement of the event, the joy of reconnecting with old friends, and the desire to create similar cherished memories for their own families.

Astrology and Personal Insights

The conversation takes a significant turn as Kate and Oliver introduce the Astro Twins, renowned astrologers who join the discussion to provide insights into Kate and Oliver's astrological charts.

[05:07] Oliver Hudson:
"We have a reading. Because Kate considers herself an oracle, we like the oracles."

The Astro Twins explain the fundamentals of astrology, emphasizing the complexity and personal relevance of natal charts.

[06:00] Kate Hudson:
"Eventually, I think we're gonna find out that there's something incredibly scientific about it."

[10:28] Astro Twins:
"Astrology has been around since the ancient Babylonians and Chaldeans. It wasn't scorned until the 1700s when rationalists dismissed spiritual beliefs."

They delve into the history of astrology, its resurgence, and its parallels with modern psychological theories like Internal Family Systems Therapy.

Deep Dive into Natal Charts

The Astro Twins provide a detailed analysis of Kate and Oliver's natal charts, revealing how celestial bodies influence their personalities, relationships, and life paths.

[09:31] Oliver Hudson:
"I love all that."

[12:11] Kate Hudson:
"There's also, like, I like looking at the hemispheres and how heavy things lay into certain hemispheres. And also I love the nodes."

[15:14] Astro Twins:
"The Taurus south node needs stability, a grounded home base, while the Scorpio north node encourages embracing change and depth in relationships."

They discuss the impact of specific planetary placements, such as Saturn in Leo influencing Kate's ambition and the Libra energy in Oliver's chart shaping his interpersonal skills.

[23:59] Cindy Crawford:
"Wow."

[24:00] Tom Yamas:
"Yeah."

The conversation navigates through complex astrological concepts like the Yod, Saturn's influence, and the significance of the North and South Nodes in personal development.

Personal Struggles and Growth

Kate and Oliver open up about their personal challenges, such as Oliver's struggles with anxiety and self-deprecation.

[22:42] Kate Hudson:
"Maria's been worried about Oliver's liver since like '97."

[25:07] Tom Yamas:
"You're being shaped as a mentor now, I think. And that's that date. That April 2027 date is like stepping out as that confident mentor. I feel like you're just about to be there."

They discuss the importance of self-acceptance, setting boundaries, and embracing their roles within the family and the broader community.

[42:50] Astro Twins:
"You're being shaped as a mentor now."

[43:19] Oliver Hudson:
"It couldn't be more true. There's a definite lazy part of me that I've known, and I am... entitled."

Kate reassures Oliver, emphasizing the positive aspects of his empathetic nature and his role as the family's peacekeeper.

Human Design and Future Plans

The discussion transitions to Human Design, where Tom Yamas introduces Oliver as a "Type Projector" and Kate as a "Generator." They explore how these classifications influence their energy levels, work habits, and interpersonal interactions.

[32:10] Tom Yamas:
"Oliver is the type projector. So, of course."

[33:16] Kate Hudson:
"All my kids are projectors."

They contemplate future endeavors, such as writing a joint book to encapsulate their combined wisdom and experiences.

[63:03] Tom Yamas:
"I feel like you should say that you guys might write a book together about your lives."

Astrological Forecast and Personal Development

The Astro Twins provide a forecast for Kate and Oliver, highlighting significant dates and celestial movements that will influence their personal and professional lives.

[34:15] Kate Hudson:
"Yes. And what's a great way to achieve having everyone under one roof?"

[38:24] Astro Twins:
"April 14, 2027. Saturn will cross your ascendant and move into your first house. This marks a time of healing, forgiveness, and establishing oneself in new ways."

They discuss how upcoming astrological events will present opportunities for growth, creativity, and overcoming past limitations.

[52:18] Kate Hudson:
"Okay."

[58:08] Tom Yamas:
"Giving yourself a longer timeline. The south node right now is actually in Virgo until next summer."

Closing Remarks: Split into Two Episodes

As the conversation deepens, Kate and Oliver realize the richness of their discussion warrants continuation.

[75:46] Kate Hudson:
"Too long and too much fun that we're gonna have to split this into two. Two, you know, episodes."

They conclude the episode on a high note, teasing the continuation in the next installment.

[76:00] Oliver Hudson:
"Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just hang on two seconds and then come back for the second."

---

Notable Quotes

• Kate Hudson [03:33]:
  "It was absolutely packed. I was so shocked and happy—it just felt like really good energy."

• Oliver Hudson [05:07]:
  "We have a reading. Because Kate considers herself an oracle, we like the oracles."

• Astro Twins [06:00]:
  "Eventually, I think we're gonna find out that there's something incredibly scientific about it."

• Kate Hudson [22:42]:
  "Maria's been worried about Oliver's liver since like '97."

• Tom Yamas [25:07]:
  "You're being shaped as a mentor now, I think. And that's that date."

• Oliver Hudson [43:19]:
  "It couldn't be more true. There's a definite lazy part of me that I've known, and I am... entitled."

Key Takeaways

• Sibling Dynamics: Kate and Oliver Hudson’s relationship is characterized by mutual respect, shared experiences, and a deep-rooted bond that they aim to share with their listeners.

• Astrology as a Tool for Understanding: Both siblings utilize astrology to navigate their personal and professional lives, seeking guidance and deeper self-awareness through their natal charts.

• Personal Growth and Challenges: Open discussions about personal struggles, such as anxiety and self-deprecation, highlight their journey towards self-acceptance and growth.

• Integration of Human Design: Understanding their Human Design types (Projector and Generator) helps them align their energy and efforts more effectively in their endeavors.

• Future Endeavors: The potential of co-authoring a book underscores their commitment to sharing wisdom and inspiring others through their unique perspectives.

Conclusion

Stars Tell All (Literally) Part One effectively combines heartfelt sibling conversations with insightful astrological analysis, offering listeners both entertainment and inspiration. Kate and Oliver Hudson, alongside their guests, provide a blend of personal anecdotes and deeper explorations into astrology and human design, setting a promising foundation for future episodes of Sibling Revelry.

Transcript

[Kate Hudson]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Lester Holt]

With T Mobile. No trendspotter has to deal with Trendspotty service because T Mobile helps keep you connected from the heart of Portland to right where you are on America's largest 5G network. Switch now keep your phone and T Mobile will pay it off up to $800 per line via prepaid card. Visit your local T Mobile location or learn more@t mobile.com KeepAndSwitch up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualified unlocked device credit service port in 90 plus days device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required card has no cash access and expires in six months.

[Oliver Hudson]

Hello Summer. Nice to see you. If you're anything like me, you've been itching to book an epic family vacation this summer. I mean, maybe a little Paris action, maybe a little Rome, you know, maybe some Sicily. That's where my roots are. I'm not sure which place we'll ultimately choose, but I'm already finding fun Airbnbs to stay at in each place. So if you're planning a family vacation this season, you should consider hosting your own home on Airbnb for extra spending money. Hosting your home on Airbnb has somehow gotten even easier with a new co host feature. Tap into a network of high quality local co hosts who can help you with everything. Find a co [e-mail] host NBC Nightly.

[Lester Holt]

News Legacy isn't handed down or NBC News.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm Tom Brokaw.

[Tom Yamas]

Hope to see you back.

[Lester Holt]

I'm Lester Holt. It's carried forward. Tom Yamaz is there for us. Firefighters are still working around the clock. As the world changes, we look for what endures. We are coming on the air with breaking news right now. We look for a constant and from one era to the next, trust is the anchor. For NBC Nightly News, I'm Tom Yamas. A new chapter begins NBC Nightly News with Tom Yamas. Evenings on NBC Craftsman days are here at Lowe's with big savings on the tools you need right now. Get a free select tool when you buy the Craftsman V22 pack battery kit. Whether it's the backyard, the bathroom or beyond, Craftsman has the tools to help.

[Oliver Hudson]

You power through and get the project.

[Lester Holt]

Done right because diying is unpredictable. But your tools shouldn't be. Shop Craftsman at Lowe's today valid thru 618 while supplies last selection varies by location.

[Justin Richmond]

This is Justin Richmond from Broken Record. Are you the kind of person who sets standards for themselves? Like personally I told myself if the Lakers lose or do or die game Five. I wouldn't let it impact my mood at home with family. The standard Lexus has set for themselves is to experience amazing. Lexus measures success by the feelings and emotions evoked in a driver, like exhilaration and joy. Amazing can only be achieved by knowing people on a deeper level. The standard of amazing results in machines that make you feel more human. Because a car that doesn't make you feel something is a car that stops short of amazing. Experience amazing at your Lexus dealer.

[Oliver Hudson]

Hi, I'm Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

[Kate Hudson]

We wanted to do something that highlighted.

[Oliver Hudson]

Our relationship and what it's like to be siblings.

[Tom Yamas]

We are.

[Oliver Hudson]

A sibling rivalry.

[Kate Hudson]

No, no.

[Tom Yamas]

Sibling rivalry.

[Kate Hudson]

Don't do that with your mouth.

[Oliver Hudson]

Sibling revelry.

[Kate Hudson]

That's good.

[Oliver Hudson]

How was Napa?

[Kate Hudson]

So I wish you were there.

[Oliver Hudson]

I know.

[Kate Hudson]

It was so much. But you know what? We should have brought everybody. All the boys. Yeah, the big boys. It was so much fun.

[Oliver Hudson]

Give me a quick rundown.

[Kate Hudson]

It was just the best. And I. I had so much fun, and I just. It was like, I loved every second of it. And I was super prepared for, like, a lot of green to, like, just see people, like, wandering around, like, not listening.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right, right, right. Because it's festival vibes.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah. I was like, you know what? It's 1:30. I'm going to go there. But it was absolutely packed. It was like. I was so, like, shocked and. And happy and it just felt, like, really good energy. And it was just like. It was crazy. I was like, oh, my God. I brought in a crowd.

[Astro Twins]

That's awesome.

[Kate Hudson]

It was really fun and, like. And then it was great. And I got to see so many people and that I haven't seen in a while.

[Oliver Hudson]

And how was the hang besides the performance? It was fun.

[Kate Hudson]

Awesome. I have so much to tell you. It was so much fun. I mean, we went out late. We went out to see, like, you know, Billy Joe from Green Day, like, did a cover thing. We went out there to, like, really late. Then we ended up going back to, like. So it was, like, so much fun.

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, I wish I was there. I was too crazy. It's fishing. I don't know what I was doing. It was too much. It was the kids. It was Memorial Day. Whatever.

[Kate Hudson]

I loved it. I didn't have any kids. I had, like, Ronnie. It was like, me, Ronnie, Danny. We had so much fun.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

And all my friends. Now, listen. I am so excited about this. Forget my weekend. Forget your weekend?

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. But we get a reading.

[Kate Hudson]

We have a. I'm so Excited?

[Oliver Hudson]

I, yeah, because Kate considers herself an oracle. I, we like the oracles.

[Kate Hudson]

No, it's not a consider. It's not a consideration. It's like, it, I, I.

[Oliver Hudson]

What do you mean there's no proof?

[Kate Hudson]

Okay, well, well, let's ask astro twins.

[Oliver Hudson]

But anyway, yes, the astro twins, we get to. They are our astrological charts. We get to have a good conversation with them.

[Kate Hudson]

Very. So excited. Hi. We are so excited. This is, like, my favorite thing in the world to do.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, this is very exciting because, first of all, you know, we have been living in this space since we were born because our mother is very much into this. Psychics, astrology, all of it. So I have made some of my biggest life decisions based on. On reading.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, no.

[Astro Twins]

Yes, it should be as it should be.

[Tom Yamas]

Hopefully from a Scorpio mom.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, that's right. Yes. She feels like she's more of a sag, but I think she's more of a Scorpio.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, she's right on that cusp.

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, I had my chart done a long time ago. Abershami. Was that his name? No, no, different name anyway.

[Kate Hudson]

Rakesh.

[Oliver Hudson]

Rakesh, yes. And. And apparently I'm a Virgo, but I was more libra in my chart than.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah, you have a lot of libra.

[Kate Hudson]

It makes so much sense.

[Oliver Hudson]

I don't know. I don't know what any of this.

[Kate Hudson]

Means, but I know what you will.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm sorry means liberated, right? So I'm liberated.

[Kate Hudson]

How did you both get into this? Like, when did this start for you?

[Astro Twins]

I mean, God.

[Tom Yamas]

I mean, we had a paper route together, speaking of siblings, when we were teenagers, and we'd have to open the middle of the newspaper to put, like, little coupons in, and we wanted to win a prize. So the horoscopes were in the middle of the newspaper, and we did win the prize, actually, so.

[Astro Twins]

But it's kind of cheating.

[Tom Yamas]

But, you know, it was like a Detroit News contest. But then in college, my boyfriend got my chart done, which we're four minutes apart, so same difference. Holly's chart, too. And I was like, whoa, what the heck? How does this know so much about us? And we just got obsessed, started doing all our friends charts, and, you know.

[Kate Hudson]

Now how do you read? Or do you. Do you have a certain method to how you read? You know, is there, you know, tuning into.

[Astro Twins]

It's a predictive natal plus transits. But, you know, we put your time, date, and place of birth into our little handy dandy calculator. And then we get a map of the sky when you were born. Basically, you know, the chart looks like a 12 slice pizza, essentially. And the pizza crust, as we call it, is basically the sky divided into 12. Each zodiac sign gets an equal slice of the monopoly board. So, you know, from our vantage point on Earth, you know, Oliver, the sun was in the Virgo pizza slice when you were born. And Kate, the sun was in the Aries pizza slice. But we also look at every other planet, you know, planet in heavenly body, the moon and then Mercury, Mars, Venus. So in astrology, our way of looking at it as your birth chart is the map of the movie of your life. The planets are the cast. You know, if you've ever done internal family systems therapy, parts work, which we love, we think astrology is a lot like that. Because every planet, you're not just your sun sign, you're your moon, your Mercury. So you can pull the levers on each of them, but they'll all wind up in a different zodiac sign based on your time of birth. And that's kind of like the costume that the planet is wearing. The sun is your main character, so it'll be wearing Aries or Virgo. The moon is your best supporting, and that's wearing Capricorn or Pisces. So it really all have the same cast, but they're wearing different costumes based on when you were born. So interpreting that for people and then looking at where the planets are in relation to that now you can just, you can just unfold so much. And if that made any sense to.

[Kate Hudson]

You, so much information.

[Oliver Hudson]

No, I love all that.

[Kate Hudson]

And there's like, there's also, like, I like looking at the hemispheres and how heavy things lay into certain hemispheres. And also I love the nodes.

[Astro Twins]

Like, I got obsessed with the nodes.

[Kate Hudson]

The nodes are like, because I'm a Virgo north node, which is wild, which makes so much sense in this part of my life right now, which is really interesting. But anyway, Oliver doesn't know anything about.

[Oliver Hudson]

Wait a minute. Wait, no, no, no, that's right. Look, I, I'm not, I, I never dive head first into much. I, I, and, and there is skepticism in everything that I do. I, I like. Yeah, but I do believe, you know.

[Tom Yamas]

You don't even have.

[Oliver Hudson]

I believe in bigger energy. You know, I do. But just historically, how did astrology and charting sort of come about, number one, and then number two, how much of it is analytics and how much of it is intuition?

[Astro Twins]

Ooh, that's great, great questions.

[Tom Yamas]

Well, it's been around since the ancient Babylonians And Chaldeans. And then the Greeks developed the house system. So, you know, it was in the Middle ages, the astronomers and the astrologers were one and the same. Like Galileo and Copernicus were astrologers. Yeah. So it wasn't really eye rolled until the 1700s when because the church got so superstitious about everything and then the kind of rationalists stepped in and you know, scorned anything spiritual. And then. Yeah, so we're just, you know, if you really go.

[Kate Hudson]

And then burned us all at the stakes.

[Astro Twins]

Exactly.

[Kate Hudson]

We came back. But I guess how do we know.

[Oliver Hudson]

How do we know that, that, that it is accurate? You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a weird question.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah. Virgo. You used a Virgo word. Analytics, which is, you know what? How do you know. How do. We're still in the hypothesis stage right now until we discover this is all sims test and this is a code. But I feel like how do scientists create their hypotheses? They study, they get a data pool. So we've got, you know.

[Oliver Hudson]

Got it.

[Astro Twins]

Thousands of years of. Okay, during this time of year, this is constellation was once in the sky. But this is. This geometrical slice of the sky is here on the horizon. So this is, it's just been studied and studied.

[Kate Hudson]

There's also. When you're sort of born with the. That thing that you are kind of afraid to say. Like, I think I have a certain kind of intuition or things happen to me that like people who you would say are like, you know, the, or the, the doctors would say, well, that's leaning towards schizophrenia. Or that's leaning. If you're hearing noises or if you're hearing people talking to you, that could be considered something crazy. But when you, when you sort of are born into it and you know you're not crazy, you're like, no, this is actually. Eventually I think we're gonna find out that there's something incredibly scientific about it.

[Astro Twins]

I think so too.

[Kate Hudson]

And I just spent a whole drive listening to the telepathy tapes.

[Astro Twins]

Oh my God, it's amazing.

[Kate Hudson]

That just blew my mind that.

[Tom Yamas]

Oh my God.

[Kate Hudson]

I cried for out. I just couldn't stop crying because it makes so much sense to me.

[Tom Yamas]

For a little backstory. We did not mean to have this career. We went to the University of Michigan. I almost went to engineering school. We went to art school. But astrology kind of found us.

[Astro Twins]

Just.

[Tom Yamas]

Out of a curiosity of like trying to figure out the guys we were trying to date or friends or whatever, you know, just as A like. Huh. But then we started to see patterns and like, there's more to it than this. And had a lot of weird. Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

And you do it together.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, gosh, we've been doing it for 30 years now. So I was like, oh, my God. Tally, check out this.

[Oliver Hudson]

Are you guys lift. Are you living. Do you live together?

[Astro Twins]

No, no, we're on opposite coasts. I'm in Seattle, but I go to New York all the time.

[Tom Yamas]

We actually have two apartments in New York City across the hall from each other that like. Yeah, when we go there, we, you know, it's very.

[Astro Twins]

Our future Gray Gardens. You know, I love it.

[Kate Hudson]

And do you read. Do you read the charts together and kind of like rap about it? Do you kind of.

[Astro Twins]

Oh, for sure.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. Like, I mean, we have. We split up our clientele usually because we have a lot.

[Astro Twins]

Too much. Too much.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, like, oh my God. Now it's like.

[Oliver Hudson]

So your charts are exactly the same, one tiny difference.

[Tom Yamas]

So, yeah, just like a 1 degree difference. Yeah. The sign that rules our romance house and our friendship house is like, hers is Taurus Scorpio, mine's Gemini sag. Which is good because we've always liked a different type of guy and that.

[Oliver Hudson]

Kind of thing really. But before we get into us, it's just so interesting as identical twins doing your charts and having pretty much the exact same stuff with the exception of a few. But have as sort of using yourself as test subjects. Do you notice that everything else is pretty much spot on or do some things deviate where you're like, oh, this is supposed to be this given our chart, but you're over here and I'm over here.

[Astro Twins]

I mean, the signs can express themselves in different ways. So when a transit will happen, which is astro geek speak for a planet moving through a different part of your chart, like Jupiter, the planet of abundance was in our fourth house, motherhood home, and she got knocked up. And as her daughter and I moved to the other side of the country. So, you know, we can like, but the energies will influence us at the same time. But they don't always influence in the same way. Yes, we're good test subjects for this.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, it's fun to like check on twins. I think we, yeah, we. We will experience those cycles similarly, but just in our own way. And, you know, I think, you know, there's free will. I believe in past lives now from all the charts I've looked at. So, you know, and just nature and nurture.

[Kate Hudson]

Can you tell? Can you like, say what Kind of past lives we had can, you know, it's the North. So excited.

[Oliver Hudson]

Hey, Kate. You know the best part about my childhood anyway?

[Kate Hudson]

I'm like, scared. No.

[Oliver Hudson]

Okay.

[Kate Hudson]

What is it, Oliver?

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, summer vacation.

[Kate Hudson]

We've had some really good summer vacations.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, my God. Looking back on some family vacations that we had growing up, you know, I want to make sure that our kids get to create the same kinds of memories. And we've been doing that especially. Last year was one of the great summers of all time.

[Kate Hudson]

Yes. And what's a great way to achieve having everyone under one roof?

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, we did it. We were in Greece and we got the sickest Airbnb I think I've ever seen in my life.

[Kate Hudson]

It was. It was like the best Airbnb ever. It was crazy.

[Oliver Hudson]

People, they were fighting over who's going to be in the Airbnb, by the way. I mean, because it was that good. So if you are planning your vacation this summer, you can make some extra money while you're away hosting your own home on Airbnb. It's gotten even easier with this co host feature, which is amazing. It's high quality. Local co hosts, they can help you with everything from managing your reservations. They get your home ready for your guests to arrive. It's pretty amazing. So find a co [e-mail] host the.

[Lester Holt]

NBC Nightly News legacy isn't handed down or NBC News.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm Tom Brokaw.

[Tom Yamas]

Hope to see you back here.

[Lester Holt]

I'm Lester Holt. It's carried forward. Tom Yamatz is there for us. Firefighters are still working around the clock. As the world changes, we look for what endures. We are coming on the air with breaking news right now. We look for a constant. And from one era to the next, trust is the anchor. For NBC Nightly News, I'm Tom Yamas. A new chapter begins. NBC Nightly News with Tom Yamas. Evenings on NBC.

[Cindy Crawford]

Hi, I'm Cindy Crawford and I'm the founder of Meaningful Beauty. Well, I don't know about you, but, like, I never liked being told, oh, wow, you look so good for your age. Like, why even bother saying that? Why don't you just say you look great at any age? Every age. That's what Meaningful Beauty is all about. We create products that make you feel confident in your skin at the age you are now. Meaningful Beauty. Beautiful skin at every age. Learn more@meaningful beauty.com.

[Justin Richmond]

This is Justin Richmond from Broken Record. Are you the kind of person who sets standards for themselves? Like, personally, I told myself if the Lakers Lose or do or die. Game 5. I wouldn't let it impact my mood at home with family. The standard Lexus has set for themselves is to experience amazing. Lexus measures success by the feelings and emotions evoked in a driver, like exhilaration and joy. Amazing can only be achieved by knowing people on a deeper level. The standard of amazing results in machines that make you feel more human. Because a car that doesn't make you feel something is a car that stops short of amazing Experience. Amazing. At your lexus [e-mail] we do whatever.

[Lester Holt]

It takes to get you the in depth info on local schools you won't find anywhere else. Things like student teacher ratio, test scores and school programs. And sometimes that requires attending school. School recitals, so many recitals.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's my son. Isn't he terrific?

[Lester Holt]

Yeah, a real prodigy. Homes.com we've done your homework.

[Kate Hudson]

When I read cards like I, because I've been reading this Since I was 19, but when I read like I never, I've never been a negative. There's nothing, nothing about how I read is, goes negative.

[Tom Yamas]

Like yeah, good, yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

You know, do you know what I'm saying? You know how you go and people are like, you know this is going to be challenging. This is going to be a difficult time in your life.

[Tom Yamas]

When people do that you don't have.

[Kate Hudson]

To do that because you know, and everybody has challenges. It's a different. I see them as like blocked, these like blocked energy ways. Like if you see something that kind of feels like it's challenging, it's like something's blocking and then you can go a little bit deeper and find out like what is actually underneath it.

[Astro Twins]

And that's exciting when you get, you're like ready to take on a new phase of evolution. Like life isn't supposed to be stagnant for most of us. I mean at least the most interesting people out there, you know.

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, I've asked a psychics that I've seen because you know, even with my therapist when I go to therapy like I usually there's moments where I'm asking them about their lives and like this is not a session for me. I got curious. So I'm always asking, I say like what if you reading someone who's going to die at like 48, you know what I mean?

[Tom Yamas]

I don't even look for that. I'm like, don't you saying, do you.

[Oliver Hudson]

See that I'm not you guys, but. And some of them like, yeah, I was like, well how do you handle.

[Astro Twins]

I mean like Some astrologers do. There are predictive techniques that some astrologers use for seeing when someone may die, but I choose not to go there.

[Tom Yamas]

We are not those astrologers.

[Astro Twins]

That's not really interesting to me. I feel like. I also feel like that's part of a contract that the soul makes before we come here. So it's not for me to play God like that.

[Oliver Hudson]

I agree. But there's a gap in the business. Maybe I will fill that gap. Maybe I will just be the astrology of astrologist of death.

[Kate Hudson]

There are certain people that are really good with, like, health. So like, that's like medical astrology. Yeah. Like they're, you know, and it's like almost like everyone has their thing, you know, and. Or has. Or. Or just has a stronger connection to certain things. Like people will say, like. Like Maria, for instance, she's great with. With health. And she can say like, hey, what's going on with your friend with her stomach? You know, and then she can say like, it's going to be hard and ch. Like she. So she won't say, like, she's gonna, you know, die, but she will say that it's going to be a process. And she's usually very accurate.

[Tom Yamas]

But that's helpful because you can go then get whatever screening you need to get. Like, in that case, you know, I think as long as you're giving, that's. That's what people do. Want to know, should I be worried about this? They. They'll ask us.

[Kate Hudson]

Maria's been worried about Oliver's liver since like 97.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, exactly. But here's. But here's. Here's the grain of salt that you have to take with every second my liver is fucking on. Amazing.

[Kate Hudson]

I know. It's a beautiful liver.

[Oliver Hudson]

All right, cool, let's go. I'm excited.

[Astro Twins]

Okay, well, we should talk about the nodes. I think our brand of astrology is really life purpose, life path. That's what we really like. We're Sagittarians, so we're very optimistic. But the one thing that you, Oliver, I don't know if you know your big three, Kate. I'm sure you do. So the sun, the moon and the rising sign, those are like the lingo now is your big three. So the sun is kind of how you shine in the world. The moon is the part of you that. The private part, the best supporting.

[Kate Hudson]

And.

[Astro Twins]

What you really need to feel nurtured. And then your rising sign is like the tint. If your sun sign makes you blue, your rising sign will make you powder blue or navy blue. It's kind of how you project. So you're Virgo with an Aries rising and a Pisces moon.

[Cindy Crawford]

Wow.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. So Aries rising. So you come across a confident Aries sometimes or a little, you know, you know how to puff up as needed. But the moon, which is the inner you in Pisces, is actually very sensitive.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

Crying on the inside.

[Oliver Hudson]

I cry on the outside a lot.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah, the Pisces moon really absorbs. You're kind of like this sponge for everyone around you. Your chart is so the Libra. So the personal planets are Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars and Venus. But you have Mercury, Mars, Venus, which are love communication as well as Pluto which is kind of the evolving shadow part of you all clustered together in Libra. So that's where that super Libra energy, so that's where that interest in other people comes in also could be very.

[Kate Hudson]

Very challenging to have. Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

You have critical sometimes to where they are in your chart, the sixth house, which is the Virgo. So you want to connect, but you also will. You're, you have sort of a, you're an idealist when it comes to people and sometimes one wrong move can disappoint you. You also were probably very hard on yourself. So after you meet someone you can go back, why did I say that? The voice is in your head. The post game debrief might be a little harsh there too.

[Astro Twins]

And Saturn in the chart shows Saturn's the ass kicking personal trainer that'll make you do the burpees, make you go to boot camp. But as you go through life it really shows where you develop mastery. So you have Saturn in Leo, which is funny because that's like the Hollywood sign in the fifth house, the Hollywood house. So it's like, it's almost like this like part of you that like wants to resist, you know, the whole LA scene in some ways. And like, you know, but you feel like I have to do this with depth, with strength, with like this. And that actually sometimes shows like somebody who is famous a little later in life too with that. And you have this special shape called a yad in your chart. The finger of fate. This is all you know about this cage. Got a yacht.

[Kate Hudson]

I don't know about yods.

[Astro Twins]

Okay.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, it's like the pointer. So there's one, it's like a triangle shape, kind of like a witch hat. So two planets that are what are called sextile to each other, meaning they're friendly but they're in, they're both In a challenging angle to one that they're pointing at. So there you have Saturn, and you actually have a few of them. All the Libra planets pointing to your moon. So your moon is basically stressed out. Now, Prince, I think Prince had two yards. Princess Diana had a yacht. You can feel like you're part of the special tortured souls.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, my God. This makes so much sense.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, my God. I'm a yard.

[Astro Twins]

A yard.

[Tom Yamas]

A Yoda and a yard. So. And. And with the moon. With it being the moon in Pisces, which is in your 12th house, which is the house of deep subconscious stuff. I mean, you got baggage.

[Astro Twins]

What can I say?

[Kate Hudson]

But dad, like, did such a number on you, too. So it's just like double whammy. It's like there. Yeah. Your chart. And then the disappointment, like, so soon.

[Oliver Hudson]

I thought, Y are Y is good or bad.

[Astro Twins]

It can be. Well, I feel like you came into this lifetime to real. Like, I feel like you've had a lot of lifetimes where everything was just kind of calm, status quo, and you didn't fully appreciate it or feel. You felt a little, like, flat. So this lifetime, you really chose to come in for some intensity. Kate was talking about the north and south nodes of the moon and. Don't worry, we're getting to you. Kate, of course, Hate to make an Aries.

[Kate Hudson]

Okay. It's okay. I'm working on all those Virgo.

[Astro Twins]

The Virgo. Right. So, yeah. These two points in the chart, they're opposite points. They're based on where the eclipses were happening closest to your time of birth. And this is how kabbalistic astrology works. It mostly looks at these points. The south node reveals your past life, what you or what you come into this life having natural facility around. But your purpose in this lifetime pulls you in the other direction. So you came in with a Taurus south node. Taurus. In the first house. So it's like the first house. Firstborn.

[Tom Yamas]

Right. So it was like.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

All about you and all your, you know, in your earliest years.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah. And he wanted to kill me when I showed up. Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. Literally.

[Oliver Hudson]

Y.

[Astro Twins]

Well, you have. Right next to your south node. So there's other planets or placements next to it. They're influencing it. So you have Chiron, the wounded healer, and black moon Lilith, which is kind of this belonging wound. So, like, your past life brings in this desire to, like, be a healer, but also to, like, find a way, like, you choosing yourself, even if that means kind of exiling yourself from the values of the people around You. So, like, you know, your north node, what you're here to grow into and learn is in Scorpio in the seventh house of relationships. So that's where probably where was getting his, like, ooh, you know.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, the.

[Astro Twins]

You know.

[Tom Yamas]

But it seems together with. Well, also, you know, back to your south node in Taurus. Like, I think you liked things a certain way. Taurus, like certainty and things not to change. And so. But you had too much of that, like Tali said in your past lives. So you're meant to learn how to flow with change. But your north node is where you have these lessons that especially the first one really is abrupt. And you have Uranus, the planet of surprises. There's no good way to say that planet. So I chose the fancy way together with your north node in Scorpio in the seventh house of partnership. So probably when Kate was born or when your parents divorced or whatever, it was so shocking, it shook you out of this kind of belief that you were walking around with that like, well, this is just how everything is always going to be. And so when things change, especially in your relationships, it, like, spins you out.

[Kate Hudson]

This makes me want to cry.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, change, change.

[Kate Hudson]

But you're getting so much better at it. Like, you're even, like, going on.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Just going on location. Like, when I had to go, it would crush me. I feel like I was abandoning my family. And I. I mean, it was.

[Astro Twins]

Or even like going on vacation.

[Kate Hudson]

I'd be for years. I'm like, come to Europe. Come with me. Come. And he would just be like, yeah.

[Astro Twins]

The Taurus south node needs that, like, stability, that comfort, that grounded home base.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yes.

[Tom Yamas]

And then Pisces Moon at the pointer of the yard is also in your 12th house, which is a theme of guilt and like, sort of this fear that you'll be lost at sea if you separate from your people too much. But that's actually some. It's. It's probably a belief from past lifetimes that you could start to challenge. And I'm sure you have through some of the things that you've done and your healing work.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah. We loved your Mayelic Hoffman.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Astro Twins]

That's cool. That was a great interview.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Astro Twins]

Now I want to do it.

[Tom Yamas]

Question, have you guys ever looked at human design at all?

[Kate Hudson]

I love human. I'm obsessed. I love it.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. It's like astrology on steroids. So we won't go too far into it, but what I did see is Oliver is the type projector. So of course. Yeah. And you're not. So I don't.

[Astro Twins]

I think you're a generator like us. Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. So projectors are supposedly came into being when the planet Uranus was discovered in 1781. But it's this new type of soul, and they have to. They're often overlooked because they're supposed to wait to be invited into situations. And when they try to push into a situation or be seen, they get this energetic resistance and they can become bitter because what happens is they're like, why doesn't I know the answer? I know how to help. I'm ready. I'm here. Why doesn't anyone see me? So what they learn in their lifetimes is how to kind of create this aura to magnetize people to them instead of trying to be picked.

[Astro Twins]

So we want to give. You're not a pick me girl, by the way.

[Kate Hudson]

All my kids are projectors.

[Tom Yamas]

Oh. I'm like, oh, my daughter is too.

[Astro Twins]

How do you even leave the house?

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, my God. I was like, oh, it all, like, it started to make sense. I was like, looking into all of it. And I think, Kurt, I think my dad is a manifestor.

[Tom Yamas]

Oh, is he?

[Astro Twins]

Oh, wow.

[Kate Hudson]

I think so. I could be wrong, but I think he's a manifester, which is, I think.

[Tom Yamas]

A really cool sense.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Okay. You know the best part about my childhood anyway?

[Kate Hudson]

I'm, like, scared. No.

[Oliver Hudson]

Okay.

[Kate Hudson]

What is it, Oliver?

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, summer vacation.

[Kate Hudson]

We've had some really good summer vacations.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, my God. Looking back on some family vacations that we had growing up, you know, I want to make sure that our kids get to create the same kinds of memories. And we've been doing that especially. Last year was one of the great summers of all time.

[Kate Hudson]

Yes. And what's a great way to achieve having everyone under one roof?

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, we did it. We were in Greece.

[Kate Hudson]

Yes.

[Oliver Hudson]

And we got the sickest Airbnb I think I've ever seen in my life.

[Kate Hudson]

It was. It was like the best Airbnb ever. It was crazy.

[Oliver Hudson]

People, they were fighting over who's going to be in the Airbnb, by the way. I mean, because it was that good. So if you are planning your vacation this summer, you can make some extra money while you're away hosting your own home on Airbnb. It's gotten even easier with this co host feature, which is amazing. It's high quality, local co host. They can help you with everything from managing your reservations. They get your home ready for your guests to arrive. It's pretty amazing. So find a co [e-mail] host the.

[Lester Holt]

NBC Nightly News legacy isn't handed down or NBC News.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm Tom Brokaw.

[Tom Yamas]

We hope to see you back here.

[Lester Holt]

I'm Lester Holt. It's carried forward. Tom Yamas is there for us. Firefighters are still working around the clock. As the world changes, we look for what endures. We are coming on the air with breaking news right now. We look for a constant and from one era to the next, Trust is the anchor for NBC Nightly News. I'm Tom Yamas. A new chapter begins NBC Nightly News with Tom Yas. Evenings on NBC.

[Cindy Crawford]

Hi, I'm Cindy Crawford and I'm the founder of Meaningful Beauty. Well, I don't know about you, but like, I never liked being told, oh, wow, you look so good for your age. Like, why even bother saying that? Why don't you just say you look great at any age, every age. That's what Meaningful Beauty is all about. We create products that make you feel confident in your skin at the age you are now.

[Tom Yamas]

Meaningful Beauty.

[Cindy Crawford]

Beautiful skin at every age. Learn more@meaningful beauty.com.

[Justin Richmond]

This is Justin Richmond from Broken Record. Are you the kind of person who sets standards for themselves? Like, personally, I told myself if the Lakers lose or do or die game five, I wouldn't let it impact my mood at home with family. The standard Lexus has set for themselves is to experience amazing. Lexus measures success by the feelings and emotions evoked in a driver, like exhilaration and joy. Amazing can only be achieved by knowing people on a deeper level. The standard of amazing results in machines that make you feel more human because a car that doesn't make you feel something is a car that stops short of amazing experience. Amazing at your lexus dealer.

[Lester Holt]

At homes.com we do whatever it takes to get you the in depth insight on local schools you won't find anywhere else. Things like student teacher ratio, test scores and school programs. And sometimes that requires attending school recitals. So many recitals.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's my son. Isn't he terrific? Yeah.

[Lester Holt]

A real prodigy. Homes.com we've done your homework.

[Oliver Hudson]

Projectors means that you. Why the word project or are you projecting?

[Tom Yamas]

I think people project things onto you. I'm not quite sure. Like I'm, I'm still, you know.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

Still learning more about human design. But what I do know is that it's a smaller percentage of the population. So you live in a world where we're mostly generators, which is people that are always like, go, go, go. And projectors try to keep up and get exhausted they need to actually rest and step aside and sleep till noon every now and then or just get the hell away from all the pressure.

[Oliver Hudson]

So, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's amazingly.

[Kate Hudson]

It's so funny. It's literally me. Every morning it's like, I'm up, I'm screaming at literally everyone, including Danny, my partner, who are all projectors. Oh my God.

[Tom Yamas]

Like, yeah, my daughter had the day off today. I'm like, it's one o' clock. I'm like, like, get up. Yeah, she's a doctor, she needs to sleep. But she probably also stayed up all night.

[Oliver Hudson]

Exactly.

[Astro Twins]

Wait, I've got a date for you. And I've got one for you too, Kate. But a date to know is April 14, 2027. Saturn will have, will cross. So the very beginning of your chart, which is the eastern horizon, if you were to look at the sky, that's where you're going to send your rising sign of April 20. April 14, 2027, Saturn will cross your ascendant and move into your first house. Right now it's.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Astro Twins]

Oliver's and it'll be. It's in your 12th house. So you're really putting up a lot of boundaries probably right now, like really clearing out things like the next couple years. It's like, no, no, no, this doesn't work for me. This does. These are the conditions setting up the right conditions to thrive. But what I see happens a lot when Saturn crosses the ascendant and it moves into the first house. Like people really step out and like establish themselves in this whole new way. And it starts this 29 year cycle. So there's a lot of maybe healing, forgiving, releasing, just studying with mentors, psychedelic journeys, all that, you know.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. Shedding all those old, old beliefs and letting yourself like your family's gonna be fine if you take, if you do something without them. Because the thing is, your north node is like a new language and your south node is like your native language. So you know when you start to learn a new language, you tend to like over enunciate the words and everything. So in relationships you go overboard with them and almost into codependence sometimes. Maybe not anymore, but you did. But there's always going to be this like, wait, I gotta over give over function. Wait, I gotta get away. So. So that's just something to work on your whole really for the rest. Give yourself the rest of your life. But this July is also really big for you, Oliver. For money or a work project. Yeah, yeah. Uranus, the planet I keep Having to say is going to go over your Jupiter. You're just. This past year has been like a big. I don't know if you had new thoughts about how you're using your money, making it. Have you been writing or doing anything? Like.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yes. The answer is yes. I'm producing more now. You know, I'm definitely thinking of how to, you know, sort of branch out more as far as just being an actor. It's not lucrative enough, you know, especially how anemic the business is. Right.

[Astro Twins]

You have a great money line with that Scorpio North Node. Like, actually even crypto or technology.

[Tom Yamas]

And also see, like, maybe some script writing, directing, maybe a streaming or online kind of series. I don't know, something along those lines.

[Kate Hudson]

I like when I hear writing.

[Tom Yamas]

That's all I want.

[Kate Hudson]

I want.

[Tom Yamas]

Writing is good.

[Oliver Hudson]

All of this makes sense, you know, because again, it's this. It's this, the feeling. And I always say this to Kate. There's so much talent that I feel like I have. There's so much potential that I know that I have as a creative person, you know, And I get discouraged. I get add out. I. Even when I was young, I would start something, and if it got too hard, I would quit.

[Astro Twins]

Aries Rising.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

You know, like. Like, it's just like, oh, my God, it's too overwhelming. It. No. I'll go fish, I'll go fishing. I'll go hang out. I'll go read a book. You know what I mean? Like, that's much more enjoyable than. Okay, I've got an idea for a script. I'm gonna do it.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. None of that for you. You can't do the. Yeah, yeah.

[Lester Holt]

No.

[Astro Twins]

Pick me Girling.

[Tom Yamas]

No.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, it's. That's been my problem, I think.

[Astro Twins]

Okay.

[Tom Yamas]

I think you're gonna leave them behind, though. Yeah.

[Astro Twins]

I was just saying it's okay. Like, comfort is really important for you. It is for a South node. Like, and your values, you need, like.

[Kate Hudson]

You need like, a blankie. You need, like, your little writing blank.

[Oliver Hudson]

Now I should get a blankie. There's also, strangely, a perfectionist quality that I have that I can't just vomit it out and be like, let me just write this fucking thing. But I don't care how bad it is, and I can go fix it. For me, it's like, it's not perfect. I'm done.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. That's all the planets in your sixth house, which is the Virgo house. The idealism, the perfectionism. Like, one wrong move. So there's one Part of you that's like a little bit lazy and entitled, and then there's another part of you that's like, feels like you're not worth it and.

[Kate Hudson]

Can you. Can you. Can you say that one more time.

[Oliver Hudson]

Please?

[Kate Hudson]

I just need that. That. I just need that. It's like an affirmation for me.

[Oliver Hudson]

It couldn't be more true. There's a definite lazy part of me that I've known, and I am. I am entitled. Entitlement is like, why is this happening to me? Like, I'm the best.

[Kate Hudson]

Right?

[Astro Twins]

Saturn. Saturn and Leo in the fifth house. Aries rising.

[Tom Yamas]

And.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah, there's a lot of. Now Kate doesn't have a lazy bone in her body. No. Like, Aries sun up in the 10th house, Capricorn Moon and a Cancer rising. So that's interesting too. You have what's called a T square when planets make this exact sort of like an L shape triangle.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Astro Twins]

It's missing one point. So your sun and moon and Jupiter are all at 29 degrees. I don't know if you ever looked at the degrees before. Yeah, that's rare. It's called the anaretic degree. It's kind of like having a yod in the way. It's very. So every sign in the pizza crust is 30 degrees, but we go 0 to 29. So if anything's at that 29th degree, it's like holding all this energy. So your Aries sun, you're just about a Taurus. So, yeah, your aries sun at 29 degrees is like the very end of this powerhouse warrior energy. Then your Capricorn moon, you can really detach when you need to and get the job done. And then you have Jupiter and cancer. Jupiter's abundance and cancer is like this nurturing, motherly energy. So it's like you can just go like, full mama bear, full balls to the wall. I've got the script memorized.

[Tom Yamas]

Boom.

[Astro Twins]

Whatever needs to happen, you're stepping up as the leader. The missing point would be 29 degrees. Libra. So it's interesting that Oliver has all that Libra. So he kind of comes in and fill in for you.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, I love that he, like, does.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Astro Twins]

The libra forgets sometimes to be like person. Like, no, you don't. To take care. Let's cooperate. Let's work together. Like, you know, not that you're not a romantic. I love to recall her daddy interview and how you mentioned being an Aries a few times and then she didn't even quite understand. I was like, come on you're Leo, like, get into the fire talk.

[Kate Hudson]

She is a Leo.

[Astro Twins]

I know. Yeah, I was like waiting for her to like, talk about being a fireside with you.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Astro Twins]

You didn't take the bait. We'll get her. We'll get her on it. Yeah, but that Libra energy, I don't know, it's just. How do you see that? Like, do you see a place where you kind of could fill in a little more balance and partnership for yourself?

[Kate Hudson]

I think that's like what I have been learning in probably the last seven, six, seven years. I turn into like a racehorse that like doesn't stop unless someone's like, stop.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

Which is very generator also in human design, you're supposed, you just go, go, go. So you're supposed to actually wait before you just respond to something, because no matter what it is, you'll. Once you decide you're doing it, you're throwing yourself at it. And then you can get. Get frustrated if it's not the right fit. So with your Aries sun being in this tug of war with your cancer moon, it's like your inner and outer self are at war sometimes. So you're very dutiful and you don't want to disappoint anyone. But then you could over promise or something like that, or just be like, what did I just say yes to? And yeah, so that's like, that's something that you learn also with your Pisces south node in the ninth house, which is the abundant, worldly, optimistic kind of like dream, I can do this. Like, you'll get swept up in the moment. And then your Virgo north node in the third house is like, you're kind of learning like, all right, how does this fit into my day to day? There's, you know, you're. I hate when people say you have the same 24 hours and the day is so and so, but you are definitely someone who can make 24 hours does seem like a year. You can get a lot more done than the average mortal. But you also have Saturn in Virgo. So that's the tension in your life. This is the thing, what I love about astrology, it doesn't all fit together like this neat puzzle. There are parts of you that do not really sync up with other ones. So you have to kind of decide which one is going to run the show in this situation. So you have these Virgo parts that want to organize and calendar and schedule and clean the baseboards. And then you have these other parts that want to do These big dreams out in the world and, you know, you're just trying to figure out how to do it.

[Kate Hudson]

They're always, they're always at war.

[Astro Twins]

Will you just stop in the middle of like, you know, reading something and clean a baseboard sometimes just for like, it's meditative live.

[Tom Yamas]

Right?

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, yeah. I'll just like be in the middle of having. That's how I procrastinate. I'll like, I'll be like having to read something or I'll be reading even my favorite book and I'll be like, I'll see my like, you know, a box in my office and be like, I'm gonna clean that thing.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah, Cancer rising cancer. I'll do that. Yeah, yeah, there are some. So this is like a really amazing time to be an Aries because two outer planets have just moved into Aries, One for the first time in 165 years, Neptune, and one for the first time in 30 years, Saturn. So Mercury is how you communicate. Your mercury is 1 degree Aries. So you are gonna feel like this whole new way of expressing yourself. And I don't know if you've already been getting tons of artistic downloads. Well, you're doing a lot of music. And Neptune, Neptune is going to be hovering on top of your Mercury for a couple of years. And Saturn is just there.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Astro Twins]

So this whole new way of expressing yourself in the world is getting this blessing of Neptune's imagination, Creativity, boundlessness, but Saturn's discipline and structure. Saturn and Neptune don't always travel together because Neptune can move so much slower. It takes 165 years to go through all the signs and Saturn takes 29. So they've been synced up in Pisces for the last few years. So that's already like the last year has probably been mega creative because your Venus in Pisces is getting hit by both of those. And you've probably, I imagine, been in the studio and doing that.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, a lot of creativity.

[Oliver Hudson]

I've felt not even just the studio, but just the resurgence of TV shows.

[Kate Hudson]

Of movies, music and.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, busy, busy. Honestly, to speak for my sister, I think she's getting finally, in my opinion, getting back to her creativity because I think business took over a little bit too much in my opinion, for her.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

And the movies and the TV was kind of sporadic and the music wasn't there yet. And then boom, something shifted and it's been creative, creative, creative.

[Tom Yamas]

Oh, I think that was like late 20, 20, 23. Saturn went out of your eighth house which is all about business and investors. You probably a lot of investors you had to answer to or behold into no crypto though. Yeah. Some kind of. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, exactly.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

The Kate coins coming out. Don't buy that. Meme coin.

[Oliver Hudson]

The meme coin.

[Astro Twins]

Oh my God.

[Tom Yamas]

God. But now where's my mask? Yeah. Yeah. Saturn is in your ninth house, which rules sports, funny enough. So you had the sh. You know. Interesting. Isn't that wild? So that is awesome.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's crazy.

[Tom Yamas]

I know. Like, did you ever really think you do something like that? Right? Like then that. I know it's.

[Kate Hudson]

No. But I love it. I'm so happy. Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. And it's gonna. You've got that for a while. So it's gonna be fun for you to keep doing that. Yeah. But. Oh, I saw there was a date.

[Astro Twins]

That I wanted to tell you which is June 26, 2026. That is the date of your Jupiter return. So every 12 years Jupiter hits the same spot. 12 to 13 years hits the same spot it was in when you were born. So the last time that happened was like probably June 2014. I don't know. Look at summer 2014. That was the last time Jupiter was. Was close to 29 degrees. Cancer.

[Kate Hudson]

Okay.

[Tom Yamas]

So yeah.

[Astro Twins]

Jupiter's actually moving into cancer on June 9th. So you can take the whole year if you want as your Jupiter return, but because it's what that powerful karmic 29th degree, that exact moment will be a year from now, a year and some change and it's gonna be crossing. It's still in your 12th house. So I don't know what, what if there's something coming out next year that you're working on that's gonna be.

[Tom Yamas]

Could be musical too. Yeah.

[Astro Twins]

But even this year when Jupiter's in the 12th house, I feel like where it is now for you. Like so, like so many people wind up like winning Oscars when they have Jupiter in the 12th. They're like awards. Like, I think Beyonce went like, oh my God solo when she had Jupiter in the 12th. I mean, they're just. I don't know, Jupiter. Like both of you have some 12th house action, which is benefits.

[Kate Hudson]

I'm open. I'm available.

[Astro Twins]

Astrologers who are very analytical hate the 12th House. Astrologers who are intuitive like us effing love the twelfth house.

[Oliver Hudson]

What is the twelfth house again?

[Astro Twins]

It's a very last house.

[Tom Yamas]

So there's the opposite energy of Virgo. It's very not struck structured or analytical. It's manifesting. It's like, it's like. Okay, that defied scientific explanation.

[Oliver Hudson]

Okay.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. So.

[Kate Hudson]

And Jupiter is very exalting.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

Right.

[Astro Twins]

Let's breathe abundant. And Saturn is structured. So it's kind of like Kate gets go out there. Go far and wide with the woo and the man. And Oliver, you just need more like a practice, like. Like taking one step at a time, like repeating a practice to really, this is a great time to repattern any fear neural pathways and resistant neural pathways that you have, like hypnotherapy, emdr, psychedelics, all of that.

[Oliver Hudson]

Hey, Kate. You know the best part about my childhood anyway?

[Kate Hudson]

I like scared. No.

[Oliver Hudson]

Okay.

[Kate Hudson]

What is it, Oliver?

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, summer vacation.

[Kate Hudson]

We've had some really good summer vacations.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, my God. Looking back on some family vacations that we had growing up, you know, I want to make sure that our kids get to create the same kinds of memories. And we've been doing that especially. Last year was one of the great summers of all time.

[Kate Hudson]

Yes. And what's a great way to achieve having everyone under one roof?

[Oliver Hudson]

Well, we did it. We were in Greece.

[Kate Hudson]

Yes.

[Oliver Hudson]

And we got the sickest Airbnb I think I've ever seen in my life.

[Kate Hudson]

It was. It was like the best Airbnb ever.

[Oliver Hudson]

It was crazy people, they were fighting over who's going to be in the Airbnb, by the way. I mean, because it was that good. So if you are planning your vacation this summer, you can make some extra money while you're away hosting your own home on Airbnb. It's gotten even easier with this co host feature, which is amazing. It's high quality. Local co hosts, they can help you with everything from managing your reservations. They get your home ready for your guests to arrive. It's pretty amazing. So find a co [e-mail] host.

[Lester Holt]

The NBC Nightly News legacy isn't handed down.

[Tom Yamas]

We're NBC News.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm Tom Brokaw.

[Tom Yamas]

Hope to see you back here.

[Lester Holt]

I'm Lester Holt. It's carried forward. Tom Yamas is there for us. Firefighters are still working around the clock. As the world changes, we look for what endures. We are coming on the air with breaking news right now. We look for a constant and from one era to the next, trust is the anchor for NBC Nightly News. I'm Tom Yamas. A new chapter begins. NBC Nightly News with Tom Yamas, evenings on NBC.

[Cindy Crawford]

Hi, I'm Cindy Crawford and I'm the founder of Meaningful Beauty. Well, I don't know about you, but, like, I never liked being told oh, wow. You look so good for your age. Like, why even bother saying that?

[Kate Hudson]

Why don't you?

[Cindy Crawford]

You just say you look great at any age, every age. That's what meaningful beauty is all about. We create products that make you feel confident in your skin at the age you are now. Meaningful beauty, beautiful skin at every age. Learn more@meaningful beauty.com.

[Justin Richmond]

This is Justin Richmond from Broken Record. Are you the kind of person who sets standards for themselves? Like, personally, I told myself if the Lakers lose their do or die game five, I wouldn't let it impact my mood at home with family. The standard Lexus has set for themselves is to experience amazing. Lexus measures success by the feelings and emotions evoked in a driver, like exhilaration and joy. Amazing can only be achieved by knowing people on a deeper level. The standard of amazing results in machines that make you feel more human. Because a car that doesn't make you feel something is a car that stops short of amazing experience. Amazing. At your Lexus dealer with a detailed.

[Lester Holt]

Agent directory you won't find anywhere else, homes.com is the only place to find the in depth info. Home shoppers want very in depth info. Looking for a listing agent's contact info. We've got it. The agent with the most sales in your price range. Easy specialized agents with all the up to date info on your dream neighborhood will know them. A Pisces who enjoys long walks on the beach. You've got other sites for that. Homes.com. we've done your homework.

[Kate Hudson]

We're actually in the process, Ollie and I, of looking at our brains.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. Doing brains again.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah. We're like looking at.

[Tom Yamas]

Absolutely, you should do that.

[Astro Twins]

It's a great time to be an Aries. You've got neptune there for 15 years. Saturn. Saturn is a little bit of an ass kicker. It's gonna make you work harder, slow.

[Tom Yamas]

Down and take your time. I have an Aries friend who's like, maybe I should take 12 months to do the thing that I usually try to do in a day. I was like, yeah, that's probably a good idea. So give yourself a longer timeline. The south node right now is actually in Virgo until next summer. So for you, Oliver, there is some more soul searching and that kind of stuff. Stuff to do. It's not to say you can't have fun doing it.

[Astro Twins]

Kate's in her nodal opposition, so the south node is where the north node was. So every 18 years you have your nodal return and then your opposition. So when you're nine, you have your first Nodal opposition, meaning the north nodes where the south node was when you were born and the south node was where the north node was. So it's flipped and the first north node return, when they come back to where they were when you were born, happens to. Happens at 18 or so. So it's like when you go away from the fam. Ostensibly, or go down to the basement, but you're still like, f you. I'm doing things my way, you know, I'm breaking out of the comfort zone. But then nine years after, you, like, you have your. So you're in your. Your nodal opposition now. So it's like a time of balancing. It's like, how do I bring this Virgo work ethic in with this Pisces flow? How do I, you know, bring this intangible dreaminess into some kind of structured state?

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. Who do I not want to be anymore? What are the roles? I've.

[Kate Hudson]

Right.

[Tom Yamas]

I don't know. Why. Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

I love this. That's so exciting.

[Tom Yamas]

I feel like I should say that you guys might write a book together about your lives.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, I like it.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

So. I don't know. I just felt that. Saw that a little bit. So it could be a joint project.

[Justin Richmond]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, good. Fifty. Fifty. Okay. We're not doing anything else.

[Tom Yamas]

That's right. There's big money there.

[Astro Twins]

It is.

[Kate Hudson]

There's that one.

[Tom Yamas]

Right. But you'll write everything.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

What were they called? The witch hats? What were they called again? So can you just explain those again quickly, like what they are?

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. There's two planets that are kind of cooperating, but they're both in this stress angle to one. So there's. There's. It's called the. The finger of fate. You know, people who have a bar mitzvah when they use the pointer to read the tour. I'm sure you went to plenty of those growing up in la. You know, the thing they use to read the scrolls, it's called a yard. So. Yeah. So it's a very. It's a very sacred kind of point. So whatever it's pointing to is. Takes on really great importance.

[Oliver Hudson]

So the yards are pointing to the moon and what again? And.

[Astro Twins]

The tip of the witch's hat. Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

And then we should show you some visuals, you know.

[Justin Richmond]

Right.

[Tom Yamas]

I have them all, like, here, so.

[Oliver Hudson]

Right, right.

[Tom Yamas]

Oh, yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

It means that that's like, like, like how it. Like if you were to. If you were to give the yad with his. With it pointing to the moon in Pisces, like, what would be the elevator pitch.

[Astro Twins]

Okay.

[Tom Yamas]

I love that. I would say that if you really want to manifest this spiritual, true emotional freedom, you need to work through some things around ego entitlement, but also a fear of rejection and being criticized by other people.

[Kate Hudson]

Big.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

There's always my life. Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

It's all eco stuff.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Tom Yamas]

Ego stuff. I mean, but not in a negative way.

[Kate Hudson]

It's just because the. It's just how it's been built to protect.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah. I would even say look at the hierophant card in Tarot, because there's. Yeah, okay. Like, there's that. That priest energy. The hierophant is like the high priestess and male form. Form, like being a Virgo, too. Like that earthy magic that you can access. But yeah, if you can see yourself as, like, what you're doing with the podcast, as the collector of wisdom, the bearer of wisdom, as opposed to, like, waiting for other people, even though that's sort of the projector, like, start. Yeah. Just being, like, trusting learn. Developing a more trust in your intuition, because it's actually a lot stronger than you give yourself credit for, I'd say.

[Tom Yamas]

And the card to move away from is either, like, the four of pentacles or the emperor, the sort of, like, folded arms, skeptical guy.

[Astro Twins]

So, like, you're being shaped as a mentor now, I think. And that's that date. That April 2027 date is like, stepping out as that confident mentor. I feel like you're just about to be there.

[Tom Yamas]

But while still, like, you know, the moon in Pisces is still, like, you don't pretend that you've got it all figured out. Like, a lot of empathy for other people who, you know, experience the feeling of never being enough, not being seen, never knowing the right time to, like, jump in or jump out. And it probably tortures you a lot more than you would admit.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm very sensitive. Sensitive part is huge. I mean, you know, I. I mean, I'm on Lexapro anxiety in my 20s. Like, you know, I. I feel like, too much, much sometimes, you know?

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. That is the yard. It can feel that way. You do feel, but it's like you're actually empathic and feeling a lot of other people's feelings. You may not even realize it, but you do.

[Oliver Hudson]

As I'm hearing older, I'm real. I'm feeling. I'm realizing that more and more.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

I think it was more unconscious when I was younger, but now it's like, that's why I have to step away sometimes.

[Tom Yamas]

From too much energy.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm just like. Exactly. My room. Like because it's like I just get overwhelmed with like humans.

[Tom Yamas]

Well, yeah, totally. And that's the. You're a spleen driven projector too. So what you really need. I know that sounds so funny, but my daughter is this. Oh. In human design. But yeah, yeah, you don't. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You may not. You're. You're very. But the splenic projectors are called like really needs quiet to hear their intuition because they actually really do know what they want, but they can't hear it when there's too many people around.

[Astro Twins]

What I would see from your chart in order to be whimsical is to give yourself permission to be alone more. Because your space and your ability to be whimsical depends on you being okay with bound. Like it's all about boundaries, feeling okay, setting them, you know, and so like waiting too long to do that. Maybe because you're. You don't want to hurt people or you're. You think you should do something and then it's like.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Astro Twins]

I mean, I don't know. That's what I would see in the chart.

[Tom Yamas]

Whimsy sounds like a good.

[Astro Twins]

You're his sister, you know. Well, more of those caps and stems.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yes. Well, that's what I gotta get.

[Kate Hudson]

No, but I like that It's. It's such. Oliver has always liked his quiet.

[Oliver Hudson]

Oh yeah, yeah. I'll go on my boat alone. But it's interesting. Like sometimes when I'm alone, it's like I should be doing something more. I have. I'm working on being okay with just me and no vices. No cigarettes, no. No liquor, no this, no that. And just like. Just me and not having this anxiety of like I should be doing something else. Yeah, I should be doing. But like. No, no, you're fine. Just chill. Yeah, that's hard for me, you know?

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, it is. And the Yod is very much the Saturn and all the other planets are like putting that pressure like. Because what you're doing is when you're alone with your thoughts, you're thinking about where you're supposed to be. You're comparing yourself to how Kate does everything.

[Oliver Hudson]

I've been very comparing. I compare myself. Killer.

[Tom Yamas]

And I want to remind you, both Pisces and the projector receive. They don't push. So you're actually wasting your energy. When you try to force something to happen. When you create that space and allow. That's when all the stuff comes to you. I know it's gonna be hard for you to believe that with your thinking mind.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, no, I know. I wrestle with. Sorry to make this about me, but, like, I. I just.

[Astro Twins]

I mean, that's what a reading is.

[Oliver Hudson]

I know, but Kate needs time, too. But I'm on a little bit of a moment, but I just wrestle with. With that. I wrestle with, like, oh, just chill, because I am very chill. And then, wait, you need.

[Tom Yamas]

You.

[Oliver Hudson]

You're lazy. I'm lazy and. And entitled as well. So it's like, well, get off your ass and do something. You know, it's not.

[Tom Yamas]

When you're being lazy, I think maybe.

[Kate Hudson]

You'Re just really hard on yourself.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

You're not really lazy.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm not lazy lazy, but I have a better work ethic. I. I enjoy fun and be. Being alone and being with my family than I. More so than I do. Sort of like getting after it. Like Kate. You know what I mean? She gets.

[Astro Twins]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Oliver Hudson]

I'm like, yeah, it's too much like, let's hang out.

[Astro Twins]

It's okay to not.

[Tom Yamas]

It's okay, though.

[Astro Twins]

Your Kate's chart is pure ambition. Your son is in the tenth house, Capricorn Moon. Like, you know, and you're. This lifetime is a little more of a chill one for you, Oliver. Like, where you cut. It's okay. Like. Like making space for quiet and rest is how all the ideas will appear for you. You have, like, Kate's chart is more interactive, but for you, it's like you have to pull back and be alone, and then you can probably do some things surprisingly quickly after you have that space.

[Oliver Hudson]

But it's 100% so true.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. And your chart also is about helping people and making a difference, too. So that can look any way you want it to. Like, you know, what is. You know, like, what would you. What do you. What is it that you think you're supposed to have done or be doing? What do you. You know, what is it?

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Kate Hudson]

I know.

[Oliver Hudson]

Wait.

[Kate Hudson]

I have to say, Oliver, you are that person, though, in the family that is always like, you're. You're. When it's not about you. When you're not in the center of whatever a conflict or a situation when. When you are. It can be very hard, but. But when it's somebody else, you're. You're. You're so peaceful and able to. And able to. To sort of become the peacekeeper for, like. It's like you're a great mediator, you know, but if he's but if he's in.

[Oliver Hudson]

I need to take my own advice, though. That's the problem. I don't.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. Well, the thing is, when you feel judged, that what is what I probably. You're saying, Kate. When he's in the conflict, he thinks he's being accused, judged, blamed and not seen accurately. People don't see the good intentions behind what's going on. So you're being. And you're like, wait a minute. I know needed that rest, but now I'm being accused of this, so. So you'll probably get defensive.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. And self deprecation is huge.

[Kate Hudson]

That.

[Oliver Hudson]

That's how I deal with a lot of my, like, you know, insignificant insecurities. All that, like said, self deprecation.

[Astro Twins]

I feel like you need to embrace your role as the Eckhart Tolle of the family.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. Oh, no.

[Tom Yamas]

Go live on a bench for a year.

[Astro Twins]

He's amazing. He's just like, just be.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Astro Twins]

That ability to just be is really like a power. It's like a superpower.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah. There's this great video we have of Oliver when he was about maybe 10. And he's like, really, like, crazy crazy. And all of a sudden he just like, stops and he goes into this like.

[Oliver Hudson]

That was my birthday party, like a sixth birthday party.

[Kate Hudson]

And he goes into this like, like, stare. And he's like, staring out into space, but, like real still. And it's like, Ollie.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. Like, it's like I connected with something bigger.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

And it was like. It was like you were wild and all of a sudden you went into this, like, place. It's like.

[Astro Twins]

That's so funny. Oh, my God. But that's.

[Kate Hudson]

You need to go more into that place.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. That's really so true. I feel like you need a deck of tarot cards.

[Astro Twins]

Words.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah. I don't know how to read them, but I'll.

[Tom Yamas]

I can get.

[Kate Hudson]

I can teach you.

[Tom Yamas]

Pull one a day and like, just like, journal on it or what it. Whatever. Think about, like, what you see in it and read what it means.

[Oliver Hudson]

What is the King of Cups?

[Tom Yamas]

It's a sensitive man.

[Oliver Hudson]

Or.

[Kate Hudson]

Or depending on how you read. It's also like. It can be water signs, like cancer. It can end.

[Oliver Hudson]

It was big for me when I finished Hoffman. First of all, you know, I was psychic for two weeks. Like the cleansing of your body, I bet. I mean, it was like I could see things and feel things that I've never felt now.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah. Until he came home and tried to like, diagnose me. And I'm like, you're so off. Like, what is this?

[Oliver Hudson]

No, no, no, no. Oh, God. Well, that's like, this is the issue.

[Kate Hudson]

This is wrong with everybody. And I'm like.

[Oliver Hudson]

I feel like I've done that. I've done that. I've done it before, and I didn't into that kind of therapy. And, you know, like, hey, you love this. She goes, nah, nah, nah. I was like. I was, like, psychic for a minute, you know?

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, for sure.

[Oliver Hudson]

And the King of Cups. This king started coming. Was my sort of spirit guide. When you go through the process and it looked like the King of Cups, then all of a sudden, like the King of Cups, he starts popping up. And it was. I read about it. I was like, oh, my God, this is connecting. So much touch with.

[Tom Yamas]

Oh, cool.

[Oliver Hudson]

That card.

[Kate Hudson]

I know what it is.

[Astro Twins]

What do you think it is?

[Kate Hudson]

Well, I think, like, if you were to look at the card and I can show you and you can read about the King of Cups, it's like. It's like the opposite of both of our paternal figures.

[Tom Yamas]

It's the caring father.

[Kate Hudson]

Well. Well, no, we have. We have a very caring father.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, he's very King of Cups. Cups.

[Justin Richmond]

But he.

[Kate Hudson]

Well, but he's also. He's. He's not. I see. Kurt is more of, like, a sword, even though he is a Pisces. Like, his energy is directive. It's. It's action. It's. He's action oriented.

[Oliver Hudson]

And there's one specific card where he's, like the King of Cups, where he's, like, sitting on a rock, and there's, like, a fish under him and, like, a boat going or in the distance. I was like, ooh. I mean, everything. Everything was me.

[Astro Twins]

There's so much. Well, we actually. We put your chart. So we made this little tool that puts your chart in a blender. We wrote a book about it called the Astrology Advantage. And it basically takes your whole chart and whittles you down to an archetype. So you could just remember one thing. And Oliver, you are. Well, Kate, you're the tide turner. And, Oliver, you're the wind shifter, which means that most of your planets are air signs if we take the sum total of your chart. And they're also cardinal signs, which we call the innovator. So air needs to breeze around and blow. So, like, you're. You come. Both of you have a very, like, significant role. The Tide Turner. So you're mostly water, actually, Kate. So we're the same as us. So you're cart. Both have very cardinal, heavy Charts, which are pioneers. Trailblazers interested in, like, new ideas, new concepts, being on the edge, but you do it in just slightly different ways. Like, Kate will go, like, put her dive in wholeheartedly, you know, not that you're not both empaths, you know, but, Oliver, you just might need a lot of variety, too. You might need a lot of conversation. Conversations. A lot of thinking, a lot more intellectualizing, where Kate might be more about intuiting. That's why you're so into all the. All the fun tarot, astro stuff, like us.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

Wait, what did you call Ollie? A wind What?

[Astro Twins]

A wind shifter.

[Kate Hudson]

A windshield.

[Astro Twins]

Yeah. We'll send you the calculator.

[Oliver Hudson]

And then what's the tide turner?

[Astro Twins]

The tide turner is mostly cardinal, so you're. And mostly water signs, like somebody who comes in. Well, ophthalm. Do you want to describe it?

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, you. You know, you come in and feel out the situation and then shift it in the right direction. So, yeah, you're both.

[Astro Twins]

You're both people who come into a room and change the vibe of it with that, you know? But Kate might do it more through, like, feeling everyone out and getting their details, and Oliver might just be like, okay, I can see what you need. And more advicey in that way, yet.

[Kate Hudson]

It's why we throw great parties. We just, like. We, like, turn and, like, we just.

[Oliver Hudson]

Kate controls the tide, I control the.

[Astro Twins]

Wind at the party, and let's go sailing here.

[Kate Hudson]

Right?

[Tom Yamas]

And then watch out for the beach and everything that lives on it.

[Kate Hudson]

Exactly.

[Oliver Hudson]

Exactly. This is.

[Kate Hudson]

Okay, this is. This is. Was too long and too much fun that we're gonna have to split this into two.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

Two, you know, episodes.

[Oliver Hudson]

You just keep talking. I'm just gonna say.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

You'Re gonna go into your thinking cave, and I'm gonna say that it's time. We need to pause, and then we're gonna do a party.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just. Just hang on two seconds and then come back for the second.

[Kate Hudson]

The second half because it's too much fun. Thank you for listening.

[Oliver Hudson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Justin Richmond]

Exactly.

[Lester Holt]

New out of nowhere obstacles. New all or nothing moments. New less than likely triumphs. Season two of the Unshakeables podcast has it all. Hi, I'm Ben Walter, CEO of Chase for Business and host of the show. We're excited to bring you more inspiring stories from small business owners who share the what are we gonna do? Moments that ended up changing everything. Listen, wherever you get your podcasts. Chase mobile app is available for select mobile devices. Message and data rates may apply. JPMorgan Chase bank and a member FDIC. Copyright 2025 JP Morgan Chase & Co. Are you still quoting 30 year old movies? Have you said cool beans in the past 90 days? Do you think Discover isn't widely accepted? If this sounds like you, you're stuck in the past. Discover is accepted at 99 of places that take credit cards nationwide and every time you make a purchase with your card, you automatically earn cash back. Welcome to the now it pays to Discover. Learn [e-mail] credit card based on the February 2024 Nielsen report here at the.

[Justin Richmond]

Almond Joy Factory, where tropical vibes abound, we use soft, fresh, fresh tasting coconut.

[Tom Yamas]

The crunchiest almonds and delicious chocolate candy.

[Justin Richmond]

Ah, but do you know what our most important ingredient is?

[Lester Holt]

Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. Almond Joy's got nuts and something even.

[Kate Hudson]

Way better than that.

[Lester Holt]

Yes, Almond Joy is made with almonds and johoy.

[Tom Yamas]

It's summer time to enjoy long days, lazy nights and great food because Uber.

[Astro Twins]

Eats has deals all summer long.

[Tom Yamas]

So when hunger strikes, don't sweat it. Delicious deals are just a tap away on Uber Eats. Enjoy all your favorite grocery items delivered straight to you.

[Cindy Crawford]

Get ice cream, soda and snacks from.

[Tom Yamas]

Your favorite stores like Wegmans and cvs and make the most of every moment. Now that sounds like a good summer order. Now on Uber Eats terms apply. Product availability varies by region. See app for details.

[Oliver Hudson]

We finally switched to T Mobile because.

[Lester Holt]

With them we can be connected here and there.

[Oliver Hudson]

Dad, the cousins in Mexico have a surprise for you.

[Lester Holt]

And enjoy the gift of staying connected.

[Justin Richmond]

Switch and start saving today.

[Lester Holt]

Get four Samsung Galaxy S25 phones with.

[Justin Richmond]

Galaxy AI on us and four lines.

[Lester Holt]

For just 25 bucks per line plus non stop talk, text and data between us and Mexico. Visit a store t mobile.com or call 1-800-T-Mobile 1-800-T-Mobile.

[Tom Yamas]

See detailsmobile.com this is an iHeart podcast.