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Kate Hudson
This is an I Heart podcast. Hello, Kate Hudson here. Summer it is June. Summer for me means the best kind of travel with my family. It's always a treat getting to experience a new place with the kids. But the challenge is deciding where to go. Not sure yet where we're headed this summer, but I do know I'll be looking into booking our stay on Airbnb where I can find something for everyone.
Oliver Hudson
So.
Kate Hudson
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Oliver Hudson
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Oliver Hudson
Hope to see you back here.
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Oliver Hudson
Tom Yamaz is there for us.
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We are coming on the air with breaking news right now, we look for.
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A constant and from one era to.
Kate Hudson
The next, trust is the anchor.
Zoe Saldana
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Kate Hudson
A new chapter begins.
Oliver Hudson
NBC Nightly News with Tom Yamas.
Zoe Saldana
Evenings on NBC.
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Zoe Saldana
Hi, I'm Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Kate Hudson
We wanted to. That highlighted our relationship and what it's.
Zoe Saldana
Like to be siblings. We are. A sibling rivalry.
Kate Hudson
No, no.
Oliver Hudson
Sibling rivalry.
Kate Hudson
Don't do that with your mouth.
Zoe Saldana
Sibling revelry.
Kate Hudson
That's.
Oliver Hudson
All right.
Zoe Saldana
We're back with the Astro experience. Let's just get into it. There's.
Kate Hudson
It's so fun. It's so fun. I think we need to get more into me because it's just all, for some reason, all about, like, your weird.
Zoe Saldana
I got insecure about it, too. I'm like, well, what about Kate? Like, that's part of my. That's part of my problem, I think, where I can't just be selfish because.
Kate Hudson
I know worried about, like, you.
Zoe Saldana
I'm like, well, they're talking about me too much. Like, what about Kate? I know Kate's probably thinking they're talking.
Ryan Seacrest
About Oliver too much.
Zoe Saldana
And I'm like, I know she's thinking that. So I'm going to say no.
Kate Hudson
I was loving it. I even wrote down the dates and you didn't. That's how much I care about you.
Zoe Saldana
Because my yard is a little crazy right now.
Kate Hudson
All right, let's do it. I would love to know, like, is there anything, like, about past lives or, like, future type stuff that comes up in the chart?
Oliver Hudson
Like, oh, yeah, definitely. And we did what's called a composite chart, which is a blended chart of both of your charts to see, like, what you are as a duo, too. So we can tell you that. Yeah, let me grab it. Yeah. Together, you guys are a cancer with an Aquarius moon and a Gemini rising. So you're very much about family, but the moon, the inner you is, like, taking this objective, kind of distant look at how Aquarius moon would not be close in their childhood. But as you started to form as people, your bond did, too. And the Gemini rising is, like, talking about things. So. Hello. Having a podcast together. Yeah. It's perfect. Yeah.
Kate Hudson
Oh, that's so cute that we're cancer together.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah. There's a protective thing you have for each other, like, very heartfelt energy between you, but also objective with the Aquarius moon. But. Yeah. You asked about what are their north and south nodes together. Yeah. Your north and south node are Aries south node and Libra North Node. So it started out as a relationship of, you know, it did start probably a sibling rivalry and fighting and even, like, bullying each other a little bit or just, like, you know, till you found that Libra North Node middle ground piece. So. But, like, really wanting to individuate. But then when you did come together and were able to each bring your strengths, it was probably pretty epic. So that's cool. Yeah.
Zoe Saldana
Wow. Did kids come up on there like our children, or does that.
Oliver Hudson
Sure. Yeah.
Kate Hudson
What's like, who's the better parent?
Oliver Hudson
You are. The stricter one.
Tom Brokaw
Yeah.
Oliver Hudson
Capricorn moon, you know, like, and the Virgo North Node. Probably surprisingly involved in what your kids eat and their structured bedtime.
Zoe Saldana
And I'm not. Right.
Kate Hudson
Oh, my poor kids.
Oliver Hudson
You're like, let's just have burgers every night with that Taurus South. No, you're about the fun and indulgence. Yeah. Pushover with your Pisces moon, and she's like, hardcore with the Capricorn.
Zoe Saldana
Oh, yeah.
Kate Hudson
Oh, that's so interesting.
Oliver Hudson
Wow. Yeah.
Zoe Saldana
Wow.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah, it's.
Kate Hudson
Yeah.
Oliver Hudson
You know. Yeah, it's. I mean, you can look at everything in a chart. You can look at so much. You worry, though, more, Oliver. You worry, but then you're like, you know, let's have dessert for dinner anyway.
Zoe Saldana
I worry. Exactly. I do. I'm like, yeah, it.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah. Then you're like, it. Yeah. Huh. Totally. Yeah. I feel like your Aries Rising hasn't been fully discussed, Oliver, because it is. Does make you, like, you know, maybe you can yell at them sometimes, get a little frustrated with them, or. That's where that. That's where that frustration, that impatience comes in. So. Yeah.
Kate Hudson
Yeah.
Oliver Hudson
A little eating that time to yourself. Yeah. Also wanting to be a good dad. Like, you know, just whatever you're doing, you're gonna, like, compare it to what you're not doing and measure it as a. Not enough. So stop doing that. No, I know now I. If it was that easy. I also see, Kate, that you're a 22. 4 in numerology, which is, like, a heavy master number, too. The master builder. So you really like to build relationships and then together create something that lasts. And, Oliver, you're a three life path, which is, like, a lot of different interests.
Kate Hudson
Like, that's your number.
Oliver Hudson
Okay. Okay. Well, threes do tend to be a little Bit tortured souls in terms of their identity. They do. Yeah.
Kate Hudson
My ch is like you activate. You are exalted here. You're a master builder.
Oliver Hudson
You're a hot but.
Zoe Saldana
But I strangely revel in being torture.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah, I know.
Kate Hudson
It's a good Tony Robbins said to Oliver, you really, you really love to hold on to that trophy, don't you?
Zoe Saldana
I mean, like, like Ernest Hemingway idol.
Kate Hudson
Yeah.
Zoe Saldana
But I'm just saying, like just that tortured thing is strangely romantic to me.
Kate Hudson
That's why you should be writing.
Oliver Hudson
Exactly.
Kate Hudson
Boom. Get quiet.
Oliver Hudson
Right. Create a character that's. I. I literally think a show with a character that's like you. Because look, you are. Even though you have that Aries Rising and Taurus South Node, which is very red blooded guy, you're very in touch with like the kind of. You're in touch with your alpha and your beta male. But I feel like a character based on the torturous themes that go through your head can be very interesting and instructive.
Zoe Saldana
Yes.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah.
Zoe Saldana
Oh, for real? Yeah. It's weird. The underbelly. The underbelly is so fascinating and interesting to me because we all have it, yet we put on this facade of like, everything's good, but everyone has their dark shit. And I, I'm interested in.
Oliver Hudson
In that Scorpionist about it. You're transparent about it, which a lot of men aren't. So I think you need to turn that into sort of a strength and make some money off of it.
Zoe Saldana
Yeah. Okay.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah. Script. And of course Kate will executive produce it.
Zoe Saldana
Okay. You know the best part about my childhood anyway?
Kate Hudson
I'm like scared. No.
Zoe Saldana
Okay.
Kate Hudson
What is it, Oliver?
Zoe Saldana
Well, summer vacation.
Kate Hudson
We've had some really good summer vacations.
Zoe Saldana
Oh, my God. Looking back on some family vacations that we had growing up, you know, I want to make sure that our kids get to create the same kinds of memories. And we've been doing that especially. Last year was one of the great summers of all time.
Kate Hudson
Yes. And what's a great way to achieve having everyone under one roof?
Zoe Saldana
Well, we did it. We were in Greece.
Kate Hudson
Yes.
Zoe Saldana
And we got the sickest airbnb I think I've ever seen in my life.
Kate Hudson
It was. It was like the best Airbnb ever.
Zoe Saldana
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Kate Hudson
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Kate Hudson
What about relationships? I must, my, my chart must be very interesting when it comes to relationships.
Oliver Hudson
Your moon is in the relationship house. What, what signs are your partners or your spouses?
Zoe Saldana
Aaron is February 26, so she's a Pisces.
Oliver Hudson
Okay.
Kate Hudson
And Dany is a Gemini.
Oliver Hudson
Oh yeah. Okay. Aww. Venus and Mars are the planets to look at for love. So Kate, you have your, yours are in really interesting placements. So Venus in. They're actually in really like, they're in happy places. You have Venus in Pisces, which is its like most romantic, free flowing place for Venus to be. It's the exalted halted position using that word. That really is what astrologers call it. And then Mars and Aries. So that's where things get a little bit tough because Venus and Pisces is like, oh my God, take me away. Let's just sweep me off into La la land. And then Mars and Aries comes in, is like, I'm in charge. You know.
Kate Hudson
You've just, you've just like summed up my relationship issues in like in like one, one sentence.
Oliver Hudson
Yes.
Zoe Saldana
Genius stuff.
Kate Hudson
It's so true.
Oliver Hudson
Gemini men do not mind as long as you don't like interfere with whatever it is. Like whether it's like eating cereal while playing video games one Saturday a month until 3pm they'll like let you boss them around.
Kate Hudson
Yeah. I feel like for an Aries, Mars, which is what I am, as well as the sun and Mars, which.
Oliver Hudson
And Mercury. Yep.
Kate Hudson
I feel like, I feel like for me it's also now that I've gotten older, it's like I, I will always say what is on my mind. You know what I mean? It doesn't mean that it's personal. It doesn't mean that I don't love you. It doesn't. But I am going to tell you the truth. Like I'm gonna tell you exactly what is on my mind.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah, but you have enough water in there to kind of balance it out. I think that Venus in Pisces softens it. And you don't mind. It's not like you have to be in charge all the time. But you do need someone who can, like, meet that Mars in Aries and be, like, a man with a plan. Like, there's no, like, pussy footing around.
Kate Hudson
Yes. No, that's. Yes. This is. You're right on it.
Zoe Saldana
Yeah.
Oliver Hudson
You will be direct, but then you'll, like, follow it up with lots of love and soothing. But you are going to make sure you say the thing that you mean. You might cushion it, but it's getting said.
Kate Hudson
I'm really good at. I'm getting. I'm, like, really good at cushioning.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah, you are. And then, Oliver, you are. You are. You know, it's like you have the north node and Uranus. So Uranus is the rebel. You're just a rebel. And whatever other people are doing, you are almost like this. You've adopted a contrarian role, I think, in relationships. But he's got Mars and Venus and Libra, though. Yeah. So you do want to harmonize, but you don't want to lose yourself in the harmony of it all. So, I mean, the theme all over your chart is, like, you want to be connected.
Kate Hudson
He does like the high harmony, though.
Oliver Hudson
I love it. Yeah. Usually goes over that. Make sure that you stand out and don't blend in. So it's. It's relationships for you are more of, like, a learning ground than anything, but. But a safe haven when you do feel like you're with someone who really understands you. And your wife's a Pisces. That's your moon sign. So you're gonna feel emotionally safe with her. Like, then you kind of chill out with all that other stuff, and you're just like, all right, let's just enjoy the good times. Wait, do both of you sing? Do you sing?
Zoe Saldana
Kate doesn't give me as much credit for my voice as she should, because it is.
Kate Hudson
What do you mean? You've got an amazing falsehood.
Zoe Saldana
It's an incredible voice.
Kate Hudson
Oh, my God.
Zoe Saldana
I've got a lot to give.
Kate Hudson
Stop with your yard vibe, okay?
Zoe Saldana
You're yachting Me? You just shot.
Kate Hudson
Look, you're yachting like crazy.
Zoe Saldana
I literally shot my yard.
Kate Hudson
You played a song that you did when you were, like, playing a rock star on, like, the WB or something, and I was like. I was so. I was so glowingly loving about your voice.
Oliver Hudson
Oh, yeah.
Zoe Saldana
I. I got. It's all there.
Kate Hudson
You Guys, I'm just thinking this.
Oliver Hudson
Leave this Libra north node that you have. Like, there's. Maybe there's a harmonizing track that needs. Maybe you need to start singing together. Maybe. Maybe it's an album instead of.
Kate Hudson
He really does have a good falsetto. It's an impressive falsetto.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah. I'm gonna. Mercury. He was an Aries. I mean, a Virgo. Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah, he was. Yeah, yeah, he was spirit guide.
Zoe Saldana
Hey, God, that's what you need.
Oliver Hudson
That's what the Scorpio. The Scorpio north node needs. More Freddie Mercury. Yeah.
Kate Hudson
A little bit like, oh, my God.
Oliver Hudson
The wh. He might show up wearing.
Kate Hudson
Ollie's gonna start showing up in, like, leather pants and, like, a white tank.
Oliver Hudson
King of. More Queen love.
Kate Hudson
Yes. So for me, like, what about, like, near future, other than this next, like, year where you were saying goes into the 12th house, and right now.
Oliver Hudson
Right now, Saturn, Neptune, right on top of your Mercury. So get your. Just get out there. Get on social media more. I hate to say it, you know, like, be out publicizing, talking, like, stout.
Kate Hudson
In the world.
Oliver Hudson
Out in the world and with your art and. Yeah. Talking about the album or talking about the show, but just, like, doing more fun, kind of just enjoy it. Speaking of whimsical, but, like, little whimsical, you know, bits of you performing or things like that. The nodal opposition that you're in right now. Yeah. Is also, like, you know, really, you might be working on some health stuff right now, like, just balancing scans, the brain scans. But yeah, like, just making sure, like, your everyday health is in alignment with, like, the flow, the hydration, as well as, like, some new habits. Maybe even, like, moderate, like, moderating your workouts in some ways so that they're. If they're, like, weight, like, bringing a little more spirituality and in with them as well as.
Kate Hudson
I love this.
Oliver Hudson
Yes. Making sure they're, like, happening in a way that feels pleasurable, not exhausting.
Kate Hudson
Yeah.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah. It's really important. And that nodal opposition, like, also examining some of the rules you've put on yourself and, like, seeing where some need to be a little softer and some. There's a little more discipline. Like, there's really this balancing of, like.
Kate Hudson
I like that. I love loving all of this stuff. It's almost like you're telling. You're saying. You're actually saying the things that are. Are for both Oliver and I said, like, happening in real time right now, you know?
Oliver Hudson
Wow. Yeah.
Kate Hudson
Like, I. I was just talking about that with a girlfriend about. About the, the difference between like pushing yourself to know how hard you can push yourself versus when you feel good in your body. Like what actually makes you feel good in your body and strong. But like.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah, but like being in the body, being embodied as opposed to like, yeah, Pisces South Node. Like, do I really want to be doing this? Am I, you know, right now, this free spirited Flo. And now you're like, yeah, when the, when you're in the nodal opposition, you really sometimes completely break from the way you've thought of yourself and like find a new expression of your identity. Like you unplug from all these rules. So I mean, you're doing that with your show and, and, and your music and all these new ways. So. Yeah.
Kate Hudson
Cool. I was just writing. I do this thing where I like write. I just like stream of consciousness right. Every morning and.
Oliver Hudson
Oh, cool.
Kate Hudson
A couple weeks ago, that was my whole thing was like this idea that people are so stuck on what it is to when someone changes their mind about something like that there's no room for people to actually change direction. That one day you actually thought that this was the way you wanted to live your life. And then you woke up the next morning and you're like, well, wait a minute, no, I don't feel. Feel that way anymore. And that we don't. So many people don't allow space for people to actually change their mind, like totally to re. Establish who they are. And then like the whole concept of like, if we're not changing, then we're, you know, we, we have a therapist that we love who always says, like, if you're not changing, then you're dead. Like, then you're no longer in that vessel. Like you're, you know, it's like, so we're constantly changing and both of you.
Oliver Hudson
Are like kind of the leaders of that. With the Aries rising and the Aries sun, like Oliver, you'll be feeling these Aries transits too. It's like anyone who has an Aries rising or sun right now is kind of charged with the task of bringing. We're moving out of this Pisces energy, the last sign, like the 12th house to the Aries energy, the first sign. So passivity or just waiting for things to happen is fine, but I think there's like, I mean, all over the place we can see it. You know, the world needs new conversations and leads, new ideas, and people do need to. We're gonna have to change anyways. So getting through that discomfort with change is like part of I Think the Saturn and Neptune and Aries transit, that's happening for the world. But you guys having such strong Aries in your chart and what you're doing here is like, helping people to open themselves up to, like, stepping past the fear of doing something new. So I love that you were journaling about that. That's so right on time.
Kate Hudson
Yeah.
Oliver Hudson
Getting the downloads, getting. And sometimes you have to get lost in order to find what that next octave or vibration of you. Sometimes there are times in our lives where we get established and other times where we have to get lost and experiment. Yeah.
Zoe Saldana
Yeah, I like that. What about my, what about my, like, career moving forward? Like, bigger, longer longevity stuff? Like, it's gonna stay creative because I don't know anything else. But, you know, I, I, I'm always in limbo, it feels like, between sort of doing what makes me money and then sort of really discovering.
Oliver Hudson
Well, you've had, you've had Pluto, which is this, like, intense shadow worker in your career house for basically over 10 years. And it's at the end of that cycle. So I think you're really starting to crystallize a lot of those lessons. At the very top of your chart is a point called the Midheaven. It's the beginning of the 10th house, and you have a Capricorn Midheaven. And that's great for. You're sort of supposed to be the dad at work. Well, I was gonna say what was coming to me with Pluto finishing that long journey for you is like, what part of your dad have you not let go of or forgive? Because whatever that is, you're going to want to not. You're going, you know, like, sometimes you define yourself in opposition to a person who's hurt you or let you down, but you'll be limiting yourself if you can never let yourself kind of play in that area. Because he was like that, and I don't want to be like him. So Pluto is where we project onto others. So if there's any of that still lingering around after Hoffman, I would explore that before Pluto leaves. I don't know if that resonates at all. Yeah. Okay. Your money also will come from investments, probably with your Scorpio North Node.
Kate Hudson
Yeah, there it is.
Oliver Hudson
That tech investment is definitely coming through. I mean, that might be bigger than you actually realize. And I feel like maybe that's, does that tie into the dad thing? Like, letting yourself really be successful with money or.
Zoe Saldana
I don't know. I mean, look, I, I, there, there's money and then there's there's art, commerce and art. Right. Like I, I money. I'm always living sort of on my heels, you know, and, and I feel like if there's an influx of cash, it's like, oh, it's just relief for me, that's all. There's just relief. I know money can't buy you happiness, but I'm pretty happy. So back up the br.
Oliver Hudson
You know, Taurus South Node needs resources and a certain baseline level of security in order to go into those other realms.
Zoe Saldana
I know, it sounds crazy too, but let's just say that Brink's truck is backed up. I feel like it would free myself up to just be more creative or to just do things like without fear.
Oliver Hudson
Or essentially sound crazy.
Zoe Saldana
I'm good. I've got. I'm good. I'm secure now. Family secure. Everything's fucking good. All right, let me just be weird and experiment.
Oliver Hudson
Well, that's the Taurus energy. And when I said entitled before, it's really kind of. That is like one expression of a Taurus south node, but another expression is like, I need resources. I need to make sure Taurus is a provider. You have lifetimes where you are like a hard working provider also. So in order to go into those mysterious Scorpio realms and explore new things, you want to make sure you have a certain baseline. But that's the challenge. You know, there's that saying, seeing is believing or believing is seeing. So you need to work on the believing before, like, because that, like when I, I had a mentor who once said to someone like that they were like saying to a fireplace, like, well, give me some fire and then I'll give you wood. And that always stuck with me because look at maybe where in your life you're walking around like that, refusing to actually give wood to the fire and then being pissed off that it isn't lit.
Zoe Saldana
Good analogy. I love that. Okay. You know the best part about my childhood anyway?
Kate Hudson
I'm like, scared. No.
Zoe Saldana
Okay.
Kate Hudson
What is it, Oliver?
Zoe Saldana
Well, summer vacation.
Kate Hudson
Oh, we've had some really good summer vacations.
Zoe Saldana
Oh, my God. Looking back on some family vacations that we had growing up, you know, I want to make sure that our kids get to create the same kinds of memories. And we've been doing that especially Last year was one of the great summers of all time.
Kate Hudson
Yes. And what's a great way to achieve having everyone under one roof?
Zoe Saldana
Well, we did it. We were in Greece and we got the sickest airbnb I think I've ever seen in my life.
Kate Hudson
It was it was like the best Airbnb ever. It was crazy.
Zoe Saldana
People, they were fighting over who's going to be in the Airbnb, by the way. I mean, because it was that good. So if you are planning your vacation this summer, you can make some extra money while you're away hosting your own home on Airbnb. It's gotten even easier with this co host feature, which is amazing. It's high quality. Local co hosts, they can help you with everything from managing your reservations. They get your home ready for your guests to arrive. It's pretty amazing. So find a co host@airbnb.com host.
Kate Hudson
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Kate Hudson
What about someone like me who walks.
Oliver Hudson
Around with too much fire burning everything down? I know. We need to.
Zoe Saldana
Katie needs more wood.
Kate Hudson
Oh, my God. I've been like, I chop so much wood.
Oliver Hudson
Oh, I know. You just. Yeah. You need to let someone else hand the ax to someone else. That missing library point. Yeah. Well, actually, you have. In that system that we made, we call it the IAM system, there's three archetypes. We look at basically how many fire, Earth, air and water signs you have and how many are called Cardinal. We call them the Innovators Fixed. We call them the Authorities and Mavens, the Mutable signs. So you have seven Innovators signs and only one authority, which is the disciplined kind of. That's Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, and Aquarius. And then you only have one air sign out of all the. We use 13 parts of your chart. So you're heaviest on water. So you have one air sign and one authority. So I think when someone is low on air, they're actually not always proactively spreading their ideas around. Like, you have a lot. There's probably a lot more to you that people just don't know about, which is, you wouldn't think because you are so well known, but there's this part of you and that's like the stories, the books, the writing, all the journaling that you do. Like, that part of you is not as known, but could be really inspirational to people in some ways. So does that make sense? I literally.
Kate Hudson
In the fires, like, I don't know if you can see behind me, but I I. This is nothing. There's like a whole thing. It's all my journals.
Oliver Hudson
Wow.
Kate Hudson
Well, they're all my journals.
Oliver Hudson
Oh, wow.
Kate Hudson
I literally. The fires were happening and we were evacuating and we had to come back in. I was like. I was like, you know, it doesn't matter. I got the things that I needed, you know, whatever we could fit in the car. And then I just had this moment. I was like, all my journals. I forgot all my journals. And Danny, my partner, was like, nope. And he went back and he came back to the house in the middle of this, like, insanity and brought all my journals. And I'd never seen them all in one place. We would look back at all of our journals. It's like the same. It's the same thing ever.
Zoe Saldana
Oh, my God. My New Year's resolutions for the last 25 years are verbatim the same. I'm like, nothing's changed. There's a problem here.
Oliver Hudson
How many pages of, like, fuck you? Well, never bad.
Zoe Saldana
Oh, God. It's the same thing. Like, just believe. Believe in yourself, Oliver. Like, you've got the talent.
Oliver Hudson
What's your problem?
Zoe Saldana
Don't worry about what other people are doing. Like, let them have their moment. Like, don't be jealous. I mean, it's literally the same.
Oliver Hudson
Oh, God. You know, I'm so glad you use the word jealousy, because jealousy is actually the superpower of your Scorpio North Node. What if you leaned in? I mean, Julia Cameron from the Artist Way talks about the Envy Map where you really use jealousy as a compass. But what if you really worked with that jealousy part and had some thought, some whimsy with it, you know, like. Yeah, whimsical side is really actually that shadowy, bitter within. You know, what if he, like, made a character out of it? Who would wear leather, of course. And go around.
Kate Hudson
Oh, I like it. Who is this jealous alter ego?
Zoe Saldana
Well, what if I just wrote a book?
Kate Hudson
What card. What card is jealousy?
Oliver Hudson
What card is.
Kate Hudson
What's a good tarot card for jealous?
Oliver Hudson
Like the devil. The devil?
Kate Hudson
Like the devil. Yeah, sure. Oh, yeah. I like.
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Addictions are something to accept.
Kate Hudson
I always said to Oliver, he needs more fox. Animal.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah, yeah. I don't mean, like addictions to substances. We're not going to touch that. But like emotional addiction.
Zoe Saldana
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think I'm a. Like a lowercase. A addict.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah, yeah, but that's because you're not letting maybe the jealous part of you just fully just play and like. Like take the stage.
Zoe Saldana
What would happen?
Kate Hudson
Oh, stop.
Oliver Hudson
Trying to be a nice. You know, parts of you want to.
Zoe Saldana
You're so right. I mean, I. I don't like to ruffle feathers. I don't want to make people feel bad. I don't want to do this. I don't do that. Like, that's what I. I. When, Kate.
Oliver Hudson
You do. When it comes out as sarcasm and snarling, it does.
Zoe Saldana
So I can hurt people. Yeah. Because I'm funny, and I can get away with a ton because of the way I sort of present myself and my humor. But, you know, that's what I've said about Kate forever. You know, one. One of the things that I wish I could sort of take from her, you know, the emulate, because we have this thing, is her sort of fire where she just says what she feels. She doesn't really give a fuck what people think.
Oliver Hudson
Thinking about your chart, Oliver, is like, sarcasm is an addiction for you in a way, because it's some. It's like sometimes there's a funny part of you that wants. Wants to make people laugh, too. And you're very sharp and witty, but then sometimes you also use it as a weapon. So just start to be aware of when you're weaponizing it versus. Because the Taurus South Node is actually very judgmental. And you have lifetimes being very black and white about things, and you're learning shades of gray and nuance in this lifetime. 50, in fact. 50 of them.
Zoe Saldana
Yeah, no, it's true. I. I do. I mean, I. I work on it. I work on it because I'm like, all right, just relax. You know, Everything's okay.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah. Yeah. Because humor can elevate a room and bring people together, but it can also be like a little. A little, like, you know, maybe you don't have to do that anymore that way. Right. Yeah. Saying Kate's card is, like, the Empress or something. Yeah. Like the nine of Pentacles. Like. Like, oh, I like the woman in the garden. Like, just.
Kate Hudson
That's one of my favorite cards. I really like her.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah.
Kate Hudson
Because she works so hard, but she still enjoys her garden.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah, exactly. Your Capricorn. I feel like your journals may be the makings of a book. And it could be, like a photo scrapbook, graphic novel, kind of like, not a traditional book, but, like, that's like.
Kate Hudson
What McConaughey did with, like, green light lights. Mine's gonna be, like, way too many lights. Way too much light.
Zoe Saldana
Yellow.
Kate Hudson
Yellow. Yellow light is. Yeah.
Oliver Hudson
So many spectrum. Yes.
Kate Hudson
But no. You know what was really interesting is when I. I started I started looking into my journals and my. Or my 20s. Like my. The first. Like from 20 to about 26.
Oliver Hudson
There.
Kate Hudson
Were some really good, like, songs. I was like, oh, man, like, what a bummer that I.
Zoe Saldana
You can still do it.
Kate Hudson
I know, but it would have been fun to know what that would have been like then, you know?
Oliver Hudson
Right.
Kate Hudson
But, you know, it's. It's interesting to look back on it, but it's cool to see that that's kind of where my head was at and. And that I didn't believe in that girl.
Oliver Hudson
Oh, yeah.
Kate Hudson
Enough to do that, express myself.
Zoe Saldana
That's the theme of the song, is that you didn't believe in that girl, but now you're you.
Kate Hudson
You know, okay, you write it and I'll sing it.
Zoe Saldana
I love it. You know, there's a pipe.
Oliver Hudson
The Pisces moon right there. I'm seeing the. I'm seeing the show.
Zoe Saldana
Believe in that girl. You sing about yourself in the past and you bring it up into the present.
Oliver Hudson
Boom.
Zoe Saldana
You go from third person to second person to first person. Bang.
Oliver Hudson
Yes.
Zoe Saldana
This is going to be the only episode of sibling revelry that I will listen to because I want to hear it all back in again. You know, I don't listen to our shows, but this is one I'm for sure gonna listen to.
Oliver Hudson
Oh, cool. It's like listening to a reading.
Zoe Saldana
It's so great.
Kate Hudson
I also love. It's also some. Just fun to be like, okay, what are my actions like? You know, like when things get. When it's just inspiring, it's like, okay, so, you know, you become inspired to maybe look at something not in a different way, but in like a more.
Oliver Hudson
Focused way, you know, Capricorn Moon wants a plan.
Kate Hudson
Yeah.
Zoe Saldana
Well, what's interesting about this, as opposed to sort of a psychic reading, is when you go through the chart and then you, as someone who's being read, are realizing that you are hitting upon things that are so spot on, you become a believer. And it's not about being psychic. It's about, oh, well, God, they're so spot on that now these are the things that I can sort of work on. I believed because it's like, holy shit, that's so correct. And now you can sort of. Of try to help yourself.
Oliver Hudson
It's really about embracing ev. That's what we love to do. It's like if we've done a reading, right, when someone comes out, like, feeling more self accepting, validated. Yeah. Like, it's okay to have all these different parts of me, like it's spot on, but it's not bad that I'm like that. It's just how I'm wired. According to my cosmic blueprint, human beings come with instructions in our, you know, rough guide. Instructions. So why not use it? Like, why? We already suffer enough. So this is kind of like. I like. I like the way you said it. And that was exactly. You experienced it. Now you understand, right?
Zoe Saldana
Yes. Yes.
Oliver Hudson
Yeah. Now, who wants to be a millionaire?
Kate Hudson
Thank you so much. So fun.
Oliver Hudson
Oh, my God, yes.
Kate Hudson
And now Oliver and I are gonna go write a book and.
Oliver Hudson
Record a song.
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And, yeah, it'll be your personal astrologers.
Kate Hudson
I'll be like, you guys. Oh, what do I do about this?
Oliver Hudson
Oh, totally. Let me pull a card. Yep, anytime, anytime.
Zoe Saldana
Here's what's great, too. And then we'll go. But what I love is, like, throughout, sort of your readings and your wisdom, like, you're actually giving advice, too, or, you know, just ideas on how to do things where you're like, you do this or. Or lean into this, or maybe do this, or I have an idea here for you, which is different. You're giving your opinions on how you might better yourself.
Oliver Hudson
We have Capricorn Rising and Scorpio Moon Sagittarius. So we can't help it. We are like, here's an idea.
Zoe Saldana
Great. I love that.
Oliver Hudson
Thank you.
Zoe Saldana
It's proactive, rather than saying, here it is, good luck. It's, like, not here, but I've got some ideas.
Oliver Hudson
Appreciate that. I'm glad that's what you experienced.
Zoe Saldana
So fun.
Kate Hudson
So, so much fun.
Oliver Hudson
All right.
Kate Hudson
So much.
Oliver Hudson
Thank you.
Zoe Saldana
Okay, keep in touch.
Oliver Hudson
Bye.
Zoe Saldana
Bye, guys.
Kate Hudson
Ollie, you know, I. I had my. You know, I don't know if you still have that book that I did for you from Jill, Spirit Daughter.
Zoe Saldana
Oh, yeah, yeah, I have it.
Kate Hudson
So it's very, like. It's so interesting because, you know, this is now the third astrologer that I know of who's read you, who I've also spoken to, who says the same thing. Your life purpose is so interesting because it's weighted. It's very weighted. It's. It's heavy. And your mask, is that Aries? You know, the Aries that you are, like, have this set of fire in there, which is great because it keeps you afloat, it keeps you exercising.
Oliver Hudson
Just.
Kate Hudson
It keeps you, like, out in the world and tap dancing. But your, like your yard, like that is crazy. That's crazy.
Oliver Hudson
Is it?
Zoe Saldana
I still don't know where my yacht is. It's, it's at the sun, it's at the moon.
Kate Hudson
And, and it, I see your yard is a bunch of. Basically it's a bunch of different things in your chart that are pointing towards your moon, which is in Pisces. It means that, it means that there's a lot of intense work that needs to be done. That's, that's, that's where it's like the person who needs to like when they said like you need to work on your ego. You need to work on the it.
Zoe Saldana
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Kate Hudson
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Zoe Saldana
Lady died. But they're, they're both, they both passed away.
Kate Hudson
Well, they're very, well, they were very intensive, like beautiful spiritual people. So the, the, the thing is too, it's like it can work for you in terms of how you manifest and it can, it can be. And it's your great teacher because it's so heavy. A yard is, I guess like a very heavy life experience.
Zoe Saldana
Wow. It, the whole thing was great.
Kate Hudson
But I loved it. I loved it. It's like, it's so much fun.
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Podcast Title: Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson
Episode: Stars Tell All (Literally) Part Two
Host/Authors: Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson
Release Date: June 6, 2025
Platform: iHeartPodcasts
In the second part of the "Stars Tell All (Literally)" series, hosts Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson delve deeper into the intricate dynamics of sibling relationships through the lens of astrology. Joined by guest Zoe Saldana, the trio engages in heartfelt and enlightening discussions that blend personal anecdotes with astrological insights, offering listeners a unique perspective on family bonds, personal growth, and creative expression.
Exploring Natal Charts and Composite Charts
Oliver Hudson begins the episode by analyzing the composite natal chart of Kate and Oliver, revealing their shared Cancer sun sign, Aquarius moon, and Gemini rising. This combination emphasizes a strong familial bond coupled with an objective and communicative nature.
Oliver highlights how their astrological placements have influenced their relationship, transitioning from rivalry to cooperation and mutual support.
Zoe Saldana’s Chart Analysis
Zoe Saldana's astrological chart is also dissected, focusing on her Capricorn Midheaven and Scorpio North Node. Oliver offers insights into her career trajectory and personal challenges, suggesting that her journey involves balancing creativity with financial stability.
Differing Parenting Styles
The conversation shifts to parenting, where Oliver contrasts Kate's strict Capricorn moon with Zoe's more relaxed Pisces moon, illustrating different approaches to raising children.
This segment underscores the diversity in parenting philosophies even among siblings, emphasizing how astrological traits shape these dynamics.
Sibling Bond and Support
Kate and Oliver discuss their supportive relationship, highlighting how their Cancer sun fosters a protective and heartfelt connection.
Collaborative Ventures
The hosts brainstorm potential collaborative projects, such as writing a book or recording music together, inspired by their astrological readings.
Zoe Saldana shares her creative aspirations, expressing interest in using her experiences with jealousy as thematic elements in her work.
Embracing Change and Self-Improvement
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around personal growth, urging listeners to embrace change and self-discovery.
The hosts emphasize the importance of journaling and self-reflection as tools for personal development.
Managing Emotions and Relationships
They delve into managing emotions like jealousy and using humor as a tool for connection rather than division.
This segment highlights strategies for emotional intelligence and building healthier relationships.
The episode wraps up with the trio reflecting on their discussions, expressing excitement about future projects, and reinforcing the value of understanding oneself through astrology.
Their enthusiasm underscores the enriching experience of blending personal stories with astrological insights, leaving listeners inspired to explore their own relationships and personal growth journeys.
Kate Hudson (04:22): “Your North and South nodes are Aries South Node and Libra North Node. It started out as sibling rivalry but evolved into a harmonious relationship.”
Oliver Hudson (06:11): “You are the stricter one with a Capricorn moon, involved in what your kids eat and their structured bedtime.”
Zoe Saldana (37:13): “I work on it because I'm like, just relax. Everything's okay.”
Zoe Saldana (36:43): “What if I just wrote a book?”
Oliver Hudson (38:41): “Jealousy is actually the superpower of your Scorpio North Node...”
Astrology as a Tool: The episode showcases astrology as a meaningful tool for understanding and improving sibling relationships, parenting styles, and personal growth.
Embracing Diverse Traits: Acknowledging and leveraging individual astrological traits can enhance familial bonds and personal development.
Creativity and Collaboration: Combining personal insights with creative endeavors fosters deeper connections and inspires innovative projects.
Emotional Intelligence: Managing emotions like jealousy and using humor constructively are pivotal in building healthy relationships and personal well-being.
This episode of Sibling Revelry offers a profound exploration of how astrological insights can illuminate and enhance the complexities of sibling relationships, parenting, and personal growth. Through engaging dialogue and personal reflections, Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Zoe Saldana provide listeners with valuable perspectives and actionable advice for fostering stronger family bonds and pursuing creative aspirations.