Untitled Episode

Summary

Sibling Rivalry: Untitled Episode

Date: July 6, 2026
Guests: Bob the Drag Queen, Naomi Smalls (guest co-host, filling in for Monét X Change)

Episode Overview

This episode features Bob the Drag Queen in conversation with fan favorite Naomi Smalls, stepping in as guest co-host. The duo delivers their trademark banter, deep dives, and razor-sharp reads as they recap the latest episode of RuPaul’s Drag Race (Season 15). The focus is on the design challenge, where queens craft looks based on the aesthetic of show judges (Michelle Visage, Ross Mathews, and Carson Kressley). Peppered with nostalgic Drag Race references, insider tea, and candid critiques, this episode is a must-listen for any Drag Race enthusiast.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

Welcoming Naomi Smalls

[00:05–01:33]

• Naomi is welcomed as a "real cousin" of the show, with Bob noting her status as one of the most requested guests.
• Naomi is excited, shares she's never seen Bob’s post-renovation studio, and reflects on their shared Drag Race and touring history.

Season 15 Drag Race Chat

[01:38–04:23]

• Discussion of Season 15’s cast: notably how young many of the queens are.
  • Bob: “Like Mistress Isabelle Brooks, she gives me older queen, but she’s only like 24.” [03:00]
• Reminiscing about how episode length complaints (“they used to be an hour!”) are a moot point.
• Height diversity (or lack thereof) compared to Season 8: “The tallest bitches. Shortest season." – Naomi [04:00]

The Twins Discourse (Sugar & Spice)

[05:06–06:51]

• Sugar’s elimination and Spice’s reaction as a twin.
• Debate over their matchy-matchy presentation.
  • Naomi: “I liked that they were presenting their own, like, collection.” [06:06]
• Bob confesses: “I wanna have my own identity a little bit.” [05:53]

On Drag Shade & Drag Race Fandom

[07:10–08:17]

• Mistress’s “cunty” reads on the show: loved by Bob, but fans react negatively online.
  • Bob: “She don't mean it. Like, in her heart, she's just saying some shady shit on TV and I like it.” [07:40]
  • Naomi: “I don't think she's being shady. I really just think she's being a drag queen.” [07:53]
• “Kids can’t take the truth.” [08:05]

Drag Advice: Honesty & Peer Critique

[08:17–09:20]

• Naomi on mentorship from Raven: “I appreciated it so much... your friends... should be telling you the truth instead of… letting you walk out... [with] levitating sideburn.”
• Bob and Naomi recount calling each other out on “no nails” during tour, launching into a humorous “how long does it take to put on nails?” debate.

The Reading Challenge & Memorable Reads

[12:30–15:48]

• Reading challenge arrives early this season.
• Fave reads:
  • Bob: “I loved the one that Lucy did about Mistress’s kitten heels... that was very clever.” [12:57]
  • Luxx’s read about Marshalls/Marcia also noted.
• Naomi: “I remember leaving the reading challenge... thinking Sasha was gonna win, so I was surprised when Lucy won.” [14:29]
• Extended discussion of the unfairness and brevity of edited-down reading segments on TV.

The Design Challenge: House Looks

[17:28–29:05]

• Both love the “fashion house” spin on the design challenge, “feels like Club 96 flashbacks.” [17:42]
• Bob reminisces about working on the infamous “Club 96” challenge with Naomi and Valentina.
• Naomi pitches opening a real bar called "Club 96" in WeHo: “Lance Bass, are you listening?” [20:13]
• Debate about which judge’s fashion house would be the most fun to design for: Naomi—Michelle, Bob—Carson.

Workroom Drama & Sewing Realities

[22:24–24:53]

• Queens struggle with fabric, sewing, and last-minute construction.
  • “Going to Drag Race not knowing how to sew... whatever, don’t know how to sew, who cares? If you can wing it, good for you.” – Bob [22:48]
• Naomi confesses to not knowing how to thread a machine pre-Drag Race; admits to “hot glue, spray paint, safety pin.”

Runway Critiques

[29:05–66:16]

Judges’ Looks

• RuPaul: “Open-toed moment... yellow, big bubble hair—very promo.”
• Michelle: “Bouffant hair aged her... too hairspray, off-Broadway.”
• Ross: “Snatched, finally not wearing a sparkly bomber.”
• Janelle Monáe: praised for black & white signature.

Queen-by-Queen Runway Breakdown

Key Timestamps:

• Mistress Isabelle Brooks praised for expert sewing (“looks fucking great”—Bob [34:10])
• Aura Mayari: universally booted; “bad party city loincloth.” [36:03]
• Amethyst: messy and tripping; “It’s wearing her, she’s not wearing it.” —Naomi [38:06]
• Spice: divided opinions; Naomi toots, Bob boots (“Eye contact is just so hot in every capacity.” [40:13])
• Luxx Noir London: unanimous winner; both gush over construction and inspiration from Naomi.
  • “She fucking did that... seconds, thirds, it was Thanksgiving.” —Bob [40:35]
• Robin Fierce: safe but boring, styling could use help.
• Jax: solid construction, styling issues, notable for vulnerable story about adoption.
• Anetra: innovative design, but universally hated shoe.
• Selena S. Titties: controversial, but both Bob and Naomi defend her look as underappreciated by judges.
  • “This skirt was so well made... I was gagged.” —Bob [51:31]
• Sasha Colby: “Snatched... the eyes were watching God... Sasha has a who, girl!” —Bob [53:08]
• Loosey LaDuca: considered among the worst of the night (“It’s giving Ella Bidet”—Naomi [55:30])
• Malaysia Babydoll Foxx: surprisingly strong for a first-time sewer, but rumors swirl that she might’ve undersold her skills.
• Marcia Marcia Marcia: “Forgettable,” safe.

Best House Overall: Michelle’s house edges out Palm Springs due to strong showings by Mistress, Luxx, and Spice. [63:47]
Best Runway Look: Both pick Luxx. [64:05]
Bottom Looks: Aura, Loosey, Amethyst. Naomi: “Poopy Laduca.” [65:19]

Lip Sync & Closing Remarks

[66:32–70:49]

• Selena vs. Amethyst: Selena’s performance, padding, and “ass is assing” are all standout.
• Both agree Selena shouldn’t have been in the bottom.
• Bob and Naomi share behind-the-scenes hospitality stories and banter about Westwood references, tights, and pet peeves.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Drag Shade:
  “I love... drag when bitches are cutting each other down. Because, yeah, you’re doing it, but she don’t mean it... I like this shit.”
  —Bob the Drag Queen [07:40]

• Fan Outrage:
  “You literally cannot, like, say the truth, apparently, on television anymore.”
  —Naomi Smalls [07:53]

• On Twin Queens:
  “I liked that they were... their own, like, collection in a way. Everything was cohesive.”
  —Naomi Smalls [06:06]

• Advice for Future Contestants:
  “Look at the damn camera... just exude so much more confidence.”
  —Naomi Smalls [40:03]

• On Delusional Queens:
  “Honestly, it is an asset to be delusional on Drag Race. You want to think you are the best, exceptional every time. That is not a negative thing.”
  —Bob the Drag Queen [43:16]

• On Drag as Influence:
  “That’s probably the coolest thing about drag... what you do gets to inspire, like, the next generation.”
  —Naomi Smalls [41:33]

• On Glam Standards:
  “If it is going to the camera, you’re putting some foundation on it. If it’s skin.”
  —Bob the Drag Queen [53:54]

• Nail Glue Segment:
  “I’m gonna do a Patreon exclusive of me timing myself gluing nails on... it takes about five minutes.”
  —Bob the Drag Queen [09:58]

• Favorite Looks/Prediction:
  “Luxx for sure. Gagged me a bat.”
  —Naomi Smalls [64:08]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:38] Drag Race Season 15 cast age and episode length debate
• [05:53] Twins’ dynamic and style debate
• [07:10] Mistress’s shade and fan reactions
• [12:30] Reading challenge highlights
• [17:28] Introduction of the design/house challenge
• [34:10–62:19] In-depth runway critiques queen by queen
• [66:32] The lip sync and final takes on eliminations and performances
• [70:11] Bob’s top three picks for the season

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Tone & Style

The conversation is candid, irreverent, and insightful. Bob and Naomi blend heartfelt reminiscence (“I appreciated it so much...your peers should be telling you the truth” [08:28]) with sharp, comedic wit (multiple “boot/toot” runway verdicts, on-point shade, and playful jabs). For listeners, it’s both a primer on the technicalities of drag TV and a lesson in drag culture’s embrace of confidence, delusion, and individuality.

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Closing Thoughts

The episode exemplifies the Sibling Rivalry formula: honest drag critique mixed with humor, personal anecdotes, and the chemistry of queens who’ve lived the craft. Whether unpacking how to wear nails, riffing on drag as mentorship, or reading the new gen of queens (“Delusion is an asset...”), Bob and Naomi deliver an episode equal parts masterclass, nostalgia trip, and funny, loving roast.

Recommended for anyone who loves drag, Drag Race, or razor-sharp queer commentary.

Transcript

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. Listen, it's everyone's favorite motherfucking cousin, and she not our play cousin. She our real cousin. Naomi Smothers back on sibling wunchery, yo.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, my God, I'm so excited to be filling in. Thank you so much for having me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you kidding me? Listen, there are three guests that the fans, whenever, our patrons, or anyone who listens to our podcast. Whenever. Have you Peppermint or Bianca, they go. They go up. So you're doing us a solid by giving us your time.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, I love. I'm honored. I'm actually, like. So I'm just, like, studying right now because I've never been in the studio. Oh, camera, action. All of it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, you've never seen Bob's studio at the house?

[Naomi Smalls]

I saw the house when Bob, like, first bought it, and they were still doing renovations and everything, so it's probably the most adult place I've seen, like, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right. And because you've seen all of. Did you ever go to 945Amsterdam? The one, like, an Upper west side.

[Naomi Smalls]

I went there when he was, like, clearing it out and, like, he had to, like, get some, like, final things. It was tiny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl, shoebox is probably the size of that room you sit in right now. It was such a small apartment. A small, shitty apartment. Come up, honey. Now she's in her little condo. Honey. In Los Angeles. I said, okay, dwelling. Okay. The dolls are dwelling.

[Naomi Smalls]

But enough about her. I'm here now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Naomi, before we jump in, 15 seasons of RuPaul's Drag Race. This is the 15th season, because, you know, we're just talking to you now. How do you feel about the girls so far? Like, season 15 as a whole?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nay. Chop wap. What?

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, I think, honestly, every season is a yay for me. I just love watching drag. Like, there's never, like, a time where I'm like, this cast sucks because there's always someone. Or in this case, there's always like, eight people now who, like, are someone to watch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Uh huh. Yeah, I will say that too. I think that. Well, there's been this whole debacle because the fucking episodes are an hour instead of an hour and a half. People like, no, that's not fair. They can't do that. I'm like, y' all are forgetting. But from season nine before, they were an hour long, and they used to, like, season nine had 14 girls and it was crammed into an hour and it made sense. But now I think people are just spoiled. They just want to be mad that the episode's an hour and a half, but they always used to be an

[Naomi Smalls]

hour when you give a mouse a cookie. We are literally so spoiled. We are so spoiled. There's also so many girls, so it's really hard to like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Highlight each one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Because season.

[Naomi Smalls]

The thing I noticed about this cast is how young they are. They're all just so. Not. Not all of them, but like the majority though. Young. But it's been like getting like that season after season after season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, the bitches that I think would like, like, they present old to me aren't even that old. Like Mistress Isabelle Brooks, she like, she gives me like older queen, but she's only. She's only like 24 years old. So, like, the average age is mad young with these girls. They're mad fucking young.

[Naomi Smalls]

But like, also like, they're not that. It's like they're almost like young, young mental space. Like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I agree.

[Naomi Smalls]

Because some of. I think the twins are like 23. 23 is like 23. But like, we've had girls who are like 21.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

True.

[Naomi Smalls]

You know, true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were 22.

[Naomi Smalls]

I was 21. Aja was 21. I think James was 21.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Uh huh. Aquaria was 21.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Gag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was gonna say season eight. Yes. Season eight was ten minutes. But y', all, I think y' all had like the shortest, like the least amount of girls on a season ever. Y' all only had like 12. Like 12 or something like that. Y' all had like only a little bit of girls.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. And the tallest bitches. Tallest bitches. Shortest season, I was gonna say.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's the thing with this season. Like, besides fucking Jax, everyone else is the same height. So I'm like, are all these girls like five, seven, or are they another season eight round of bitches where they all just fucking tall. So it makes. You can't really tell that they're giant ass girls.

[Naomi Smalls]

Who's the tallest right now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it might be Marcia. Marcia Marshall.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh my gosh. She gave me like five four vibes. But. But Gag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Cause Jax is five' three.

[Naomi Smalls]

Crazy. That's so fierce. That's so fast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Naomi, you would change the legs of a legend to be five' three. No. No.

[Naomi Smalls]

Well, I would rather have it be like you're either going to be like the six' five goddess or you're gonna be like the cute and cunty gorgeous. I wouldn't wanna be in between. I'd wanna be like either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Naomi said all y' all bitches in between. Is my son. So let's jump on in. So right at the top, Spice is going through her girl. She is crying because her sister Sugar went home. And, you know, I know a couple twins in my life, and I don't know, they're always, like, codependent. I've never met a set of twins. No, no, Shade. If you are. I'm not saying all twins are, but all the twins that I've met, they're pret. Pretty codependent, and they kind of need each other to do stuff.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, I would be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she's very cringe.

[Naomi Smalls]

I would be the same way if I had a twin. Like, I think everyone else would not matter if I knew that, like, at the end of the day, this bitch knows me like the back of her hand, and she'll always have my back. I already miss Sugar so much on Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, what are your thoughts about the twins? Because I could not. I don't like. I like the twins. I really like them. I did not like the whole matchy matchy everything. Like. Like, I would. I wanna. I want my own identity a little bit.

[Naomi Smalls]

I liked it. I liked it, like. I liked it that they were, like, kind of presenting, like, their own, like, collection in a way, like, and everything was cohesive. I think if I were to do it with a twin, I'd probably want to do the exact same thing, because we've never seen it on Drag Race. I think, like, yeah, that, like, I understand not liking it because you cannot put yourself in those shoes, you know? And that's just the beauty of being a twin when.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I will. I will never have that experience. I would never have that.

[Naomi Smalls]

I thought Sugar was actually going to stick around longer than Spice, just based on interesting personality. But I think that Spice is a lot more, like, together when it comes to, like, the makeup and hair and just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Precision.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Aesthetically, I. I think Spice, like. Like, so many wigs Spice wore, I was like, bitch, give me that shit, bitch. I want that. Like, I think Spice has some really cool drag. Not Sugar is necessarily. Although I'm a sweet girl, Sugar's aesthetic was not my kind of thing. But Spice, for sure.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes. I'm in the same boat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And then, so Lucy points out that Mistress was not delusional, and she was the second. Cause Mistress had this shady moment in the tuck. She just looks at Marcia and she goes, marcia, this is a direct quote, y'. All. Marcia, I don't think you were behind her because your look is kind of cheap. And in Snatch Game, I don't think you were that funny. I am so here for Mistress Being Cunty. I love. This is the kind of fucking drag I like. I like this shit when bitches are cutting each other down because, yeah, you're doing it. But she.

[Naomi Smalls]

She.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She don't mean it. Like, in her heart, she's just saying some. Some shady shit on tv, and I like it. But the fans are fucking getting her Instagram fucking removed. They fucking blocked her Twitter. Like, the fans are really getting this bitch fucked up.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know. You literally just cannot, like, say the truth, apparently, on television anymore. Because I don't think she's really being cunty. I don't think she's being shady. I really just think she's being a drag queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

And the kids can't take it because the kids can't take, like, Drag Race is not, like, what we experience in a dressing room and, like, how we grew up doing drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you grew up with Raven. I cannot. I cannot imagine being on the scene with Raven. Raven just like, I couldn't imagine I would. I would live.

[Naomi Smalls]

But I appreciated it so much because it kept me, like, in reality, like, I think that your friends and, like, your peers should be telling you the truth instead of, like, telling you your wig looks good and then you walk out and it's like levitating sideburn, you know, like, we want the truth because it's going to make us excel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we. So there we would. Naomi and I, we were on the Work the World tour, and the Work. You work the world tour together. 20, 18, 19, or whatever year that was. And so many times I. Cause like, three days into the tour, I just abandoned nails. So every time we were going to the stage and we'd be like, no nails, huh? Or my wig was looking crazy. Then be like, come here. And she would, like, rush my. Rush my kitty cat for me. Like, that's the kind of bitches you need in your life. No nails. Interesting.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, you knew you weren't wearing nails, but I needed you to know that I knew you also weren't wearing nails. Cause honestly, nails people. People love to talk about how annoying nails are. It takes an extra what, not even two minutes,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Naomi. Like, five minutes.

[Naomi Smalls]

It does not take five minutes to put that crazy glue brush on. You just have to line up your nails before you get ready. That's the key. Line up the 10 nails before you get ready. And it will take you, like, a minute. And maybe a minute, maybe, like, I'm rushing to the stage while I'm Gluing nails on, and I'm fine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. I'm gonna. Honestly, I'm gonna do a Patreon exclusive of me timing myself gluing nails on, and we'll see. Cause I think it takes about five minutes.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, my God. You're doing it wrong.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I started doing gel tabs, and I know you don't believe in the. But the gel fucking glue tabs, they're everything, bitch. It changed my life.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think I'm, like, too hardcore for the gel tabs. But this is also coming from someone who's never tried it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's good. It's good, girl. It's good. Spice thinks that Aura should have been in the bottom over Sugar from last week's episode from the ball, and I mean from Snatch Game. Sorry. And I don't think so. I think Aura's. I think they were both bad at the snatch, but aura's Runway was 10 times better than Sugar's. So I'm like, bitch, you're bugging.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, I agree. I think Aura likes. I think Aura's Runway was actually probably like, my. One of my favorite concepts. The delivery was unnecessary with the whole. I don't know what she's doing on the Runway with. She's almost like the Utica of the season. Like, the. Like. I don't even know what you call that. The histrionics.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I can't. It's just too much, Bob. And I call her the cringe queen because there's always something a little cringey about what Aura does every episode, and. And I just can't with Aura. Like, I really want to like her, but she's just such a derpy little. I think I'm fly. I think I'm sexy, whatever. Like, she's one of those kind of girls. I can't.

[Naomi Smalls]

Honestly, though, the arms, the muscles go off.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, for sure. For sure. But I like when people are hot. Don't tell me you're hot, because, bitch, I have eyes. I know you're hot. I know you're fine. You don't got to tell me that, bitch. I know.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think also, like, we can just say it now. Anetra is the trait of the season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think so?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. And I also love that she's never talked about it. Who do you think is. I mean, I don't really also think that the terminology of Drag Race. Trade is trade. But when the girls like to say, you know, the trade of the season, I would say that Anetra's like, Anetra

[Bob the Drag Queen]

is too Soft and cunt for me to be. To be traded, even by Drag Race standards. She just, like, I don't see for Nichiro. I do think Aura is betrayed. But now the fact that she's told me, out of principle, I'm like, bitch, you're not.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, maybe just shut up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We go into the work room the next day, and it's the reading Challenge. They are doing everything so early this season. Snatch Game happened so early. And the reading challenge with, like, 13 people, it seems mad early. They're doing the reading Challenge. But it was a good one.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Next week's gonna be TikTok Lunch Girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right. For the first time in Drag Race history, we have a top 10.

[Naomi Smalls]

What were some reads that stuck out to you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I loved the one that fucking Lucy did about. About Mistress's kitten heels, about how they didn't start that way. I thought that was very. A very clever joke. I thought it was really good. I thought that was really good. And Luxx made one about someone I can't remember. I thought it was very funny too.

[Naomi Smalls]

Was that the Marshalls? Marshalls. Marshalls.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Marshalls. Marshalls. Marshalls. Because no shade. And you know me, I am a fan of pedestrian drag. I will get something from Target and wear it, but, I mean, not on RuPaul's Drag Race. Never. Not even season 10. Would I dare to wear some shit from the store.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't know. That diamond one,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A designer made that for me. Chris Haynes. That's crazy. Chris Haynes in New York City made that for me.

[Naomi Smalls]

Have you worked with Chris Haynes again?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Never.

[Naomi Smalls]

Well,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, yeah, they had some really good reads. But also, to be fair, though, they only showed one of each person.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's so fast. And so you can get. You can. You can get the best of everyone if you only show one read. Whereas in All Stars or something, they show, like, three of your reads, so, you know, you have less of a chance for feeling fierce.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I think they used to put up, like, the full versions of, like, the reading challenge and stuff online. I don't know if they do that anymore.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't think they do. I think they stopped doing it. I don't know why, but they stopped giving us that.

[Naomi Smalls]

I remember leaving the reading challenge after watching and thinking that I thought Sasha was gonna win, so I was surprised when Lucy won.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, really? Sasha was strong as well, but. And again, they only showed two of Sasha's and three of Lucy's, so it makes us feel like Lucy won. Maybe Sasha had three good ones. As well. But that being said, I really did like Lucy's reads. I thought they were really good. Lucy is. And I think Lucy is okay. Backtrack. I think Lucy is the trait of the season for me.

[Naomi Smalls]

I'm sure she would love to hear you say that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it's the tattoos. I think Lucy has a cute face, but the tattoos. And also she has man hands. And I, when I look for a lover, I look for teeth and hands. And Lucy has some man concrete hands

[Naomi Smalls]

which I'm like, ooh, work a brick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A brick girl. Just a rough ass brick hand to fucking slap me a little bit and fucking, you know, I'm into it.

[Naomi Smalls]

But she kind of dresses like a 12 year old. I don't understand. It's got a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And also the voice. But also I'm not bothered by the voice. So I'm like, if we have. If, if, if I had some trade that had a high voice like that, I would kind of be into it a lot actually.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I do love the voice. I do love the voice. Love the voice. Especially in paint.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Ru introduces the challenge. And I love that this is a spin, like, like, making them do, like. Like, a. A house of fashion. I like this is a spin on the classic design challenge. Make. Kind of making everyone stick into a thing. I like that.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, that was cute. I loved, like, that. Instead of everyone having different themes or it going just, like, crazy, like, different concepts and, like. Yeah, yeah, I liked that, too. I think. I don't really understand the whole room thing, but it was a cute, like, camera thing. Kyma was giving me, like, Club 96 flashbacks. I was like, oh, my God, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Naomi.

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I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In my humble opinion, I honestly feel of all the challenges I've done on Drag Race over three seasons now, the room, one in the moment, I hated it. But thinking back on it now, like, watching it, it was one of my favorite. I think it's my favorite challenge I've ever done on Drag Race.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, I love that. Crazy. And we weren't even together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We were. I would just never forget you trying to, like, funnel you and Valentina's ideas together. And she was just all over the room. She was talking to our group. She was going outside to go do the thing. And Naomi is, like, trying. She's like, bitch, if you don't come here and get these motherfucking ideas together. Like, you were really, like, trying to crack the whip, but this bitch would not give you the time of day.

[Naomi Smalls]

And it was like. I remember the producers, they were kind of, like, in the interview, they were wanting me to almost not drag Valentina, but to, like, kind of, like, vent and complain about, like, her participation. But honestly, like, it was an honor and a privilege because I stan Valentina so hard, and I had the best time with her. And all my memories with her that day are just, like, so special to me. And honestly, Club 96 is the only club you fucking remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It really is. It's the only one. Not even the fucking one that. The. That one, I don't remember there was, like, yellow or something. Oh, yeah, they did that B. Shit. But again, you don't think about it. You think about Club 96.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And it was gonna be Club 69 first. Right.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't think they let us. Or maybe. Honestly, I don't even know how we landed on that idea, but thank God, because it's iconic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And, yeah, at my. At my. I did a show in Kansas City the other night, or maybe it was Des Moines, one of those two and two people in the front row that Club 96 hoodies, girl. I was like, oh, the Club 96. I did a little. Little moment with them, but I was like, yeah, bitch, come on, club 96.

[Naomi Smalls]

She will live on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, forever, bitch. What you honestly did. You should think about opening a bar. If you open a bar. Naomi in WeHo Cult. Club 96, bitch. Up. And it's up. And it's up and it's stuck.

[Naomi Smalls]

Lance Bass, are you listening? We're pitching. We are pitching, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That would be fierce, bitch. You know what?

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bobby's had this idea once upon a time. He's like, you know, wanna. You know. You know him always have an idea.

[Naomi Smalls]

Always.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's like, I think that, like, four rude girls should get together. We should, like, buy a bar. And I'm like, that just sounds like so much red tape. That sounds like there's gonna be a lot of problems. But, you know, I would go half

[Naomi Smalls]

on a couple Monet. What we have to do is send anonymously clona willies to 17 drag race queens. Yeah. Bob's full of the crazy ideas. Oh. Which of course, I did. But I've also heard about this idea for the past, like, I think, like, four years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's crazy. I was like, girl, you are wild. Which. So out of the Michelle room, the Ross room, the Carson room, which one would you have wanted?

[Naomi Smalls]

Probably Michelle, Just because I feel. I'm like. When I think of Naomi Smalls, I try and think of, like, high femme queen. So I think my immediate would probably be Michelle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would. I would have wanted Carson because, you know, I love me a tartan. I love me, like a flannel. All that stuff. I would have definitely wanted to play in that realm, but I definitely would not want the Palm Springs, St. Tropez, Cavalli thing. I would not want that.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. I'm surprised it wasn't just, like, a bunch of, like, reversible sequin for Ross.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is the brilliance of Naomi's small shade.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's. Honestly, though, it's so weird trying to read and, like, just be, like, in this zone without, like, a wig on and, like, nails. It's so weird talking out of drag about. Yeah. And trying to be cunty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you were nailing it.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. I mean, it's not going anywhere. I'm just giving you the observation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So this is the moment. They're all in the room, trying to get the fabric from the rooms that they want, and Spice is cutting the fabric off the pillow and not unzipping it. And I was sitting there like, they're making fun of her. That is absolutely something I would do. Like, in the moment, I wouldn't even think about it. I'll just be like, oh, these girls

[Naomi Smalls]

are gonna come for the twins, regardless. Mm. Regardless. But I probably would do the same thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would be like. Tiffany would point it out to me. I'd be like, oh, yeah. But, you know, whatever. It's stressful. Drag Race is fucking stressful. All right. So as they're working, Malaysia says that she's never sewn before. Well, she had. We later found out she had one sewing class going to Drag Race. And at this point, I think everyone talks about this every season. Going to Drag Race, not knowing how to sew. I mean, yeah, I get that. It's like, you should know, but also, if you can fucking win it, wing it, and, like, do a good job, whatever. Don't know how to sew. Who cares?

[Naomi Smalls]

I couldn't. I mean, I tried to learn how to thread a sewing machine before leaving for drag race season eight, and I gave up, like, 30 seconds in. Like, my best friend, Christina Stina, she makes all the corsets and everything. Like, nope, it was a wrap. I just could not. But, I mean, I didn't need it. I just knew, like, it's like, hot glue, spray paint, safety pad. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

See, I can hot glue. I don't know how to hot glue. Like, I'm just not good at that. Like, I mean, In All Stars 7, that green thing, I did hot glue that top together, and it ended up working out. But hot gluing sounds like. I think back. I cannot believe Bendelacreme made that fucking thing out of hot glue. Like, that's crazy to me.

[Naomi Smalls]

I'm not a hot glue love icon, right? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Really, really, really good. Wait, your vision, your scarecrow thing, that was all hot glued.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, my God. I was like, say, okay, I used a bunch of safety pins, hot glue. I used a staple gun. And I remember I was staple gunning it, like, on the floor, and it got stuck to the floor. It was a whole thing. But thank God. That was like kind of like a distress, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But Naomi, Bob still had. Did Bob. You know, Bob has it in his house where you're at right now.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't even want to see it because I know I probably couldn't fit that thing anymore, but there's no way. There's no way. But I think Bob wants to open, like, a museum. I always think about that. Like, when I'm getting rid of drag and stuff, I'm like, should I keep this for Bob?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Another, another. Another. Again. Another idea, girl. And another one. Thank you. Another idea.

[Naomi Smalls]

That'd be a good one, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you still have your purple finale? All Stars 4?

[Naomi Smalls]

I do. You want to buy it

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

around my fucking wrist? My ankle?

[Naomi Smalls]

I do have it. I do have it. I knew. I knew. Honestly, that's all I wanted to, like, once I knew I wasn't gonna win it, I was like, just let me wear my finale.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So. So All Stars 4. It's like we're like, leading up to the finale, like. Like, maybe like the Sex and the City challenge or whatever. We're knowing, you know, preparing for that. We're like, all, like, trying to starting to pull out our finale things. And we're all like, you know, doing finishing touches on them. And then I pull out my finale, and Naomi's like, what's that? I was like, I was just waiting for the finale. She was like, that's what you're wearing. And she was like, I'm confused. You wore that angelic white one and you're wearing this for the finale.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay, Joke was on me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, but you're right, though. Like, in hindsight, I spent so much money on the angelic white, and I spent less than a quarter of what I spent on the angelic white for the finale. I don't know what I was thinking. I just wanted. I just had this idea of what I wanted, and the designer I went to. So stupid. The stupid decisions were made.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, my God, Jacob. This would probably fit my head now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob brought it out.

[Naomi Smalls]

The scarecrow look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God, the scarecrow look. Drag Race.

[Naomi Smalls]

I'm not even gonna embarrass myself on this podcast and put it over on my waist. But she's a real cute shoulder shrug. Oh, I love crazy, crazy, crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Still has a girl. I think he also has Kim. The. That. That thing Kim wore to the New York City premiere too. Or I had it for a while and I gave it back to Bob.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, but he didn't want it. Kim was just like, I'm not packing this in my suitcase work. Typical Kim.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Typical Kim. At the end of a tour over it. Well, at the beginning of it. It was the beginning of the thing. I'm trying to think of anything else that stuck out when they were getting ready. Oh, the episodes being an hour long. I think it's perfect for design challenges. Design challenges. The 90 minute design challenges. You would just get like 18 segments in the workroom of boring shit that people. I like that this is short and sweet.

[Naomi Smalls]

I feel like they didn't know that it was gonna air as an hour. Like, I feel like when they. I mean, I don't know, but the way that they just seem so, like, cut. Like, there's, like, one. They say one thing before the Runway when they're, like, painting, and I'm like, whoa.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. Yeah, yeah, it does happen. It does happen very quick. But, you know, honestly, I'm for it. I like the hour long episodes.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, it's also your job to watch it, so it's like, of course you're gonna, like a shorter shift.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got shit to do. I think we can go into the runways. Jacob.

[Naomi Smalls]

You know when they do that, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. If. If World of Wonder is listening, remove the stock footage of the makeup brush. Just saying. Just saying. It's like a makeup brush with, like, powder. We don't need that. Where we. We are more ru Is more custom than that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, not the stock image. Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

You know, and they do like, the, like, soundboard, like, all the way up and, like, the lights are flickering. There's like this weird, like, stock footage of, like, a makeup brush blowing. It's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's bizarre when the next time I watch I have to think about that. I don't think I remember that.

[Naomi Smalls]

I'm also just very picky.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, there's a reason why your aesthetics and your visuals are always on point because you are very anal about it. And, you know, I think a lot of girls can learn that lesson, Bob.

[Naomi Smalls]

Anal. Wow. So now my drag's a butthole. Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's talk about these judges. Looks okay. RuPaul is wearing a little open toed moment.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know. Crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who is she, though? I love it too. I love this yellow. It's almost giving me, like, that fabric you had in Yalls promo with the blue, like, the feathers. I always wanted something made out of that.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes. It. My friend was telling me, yeah, this is definitely very promo. I love the hair. Like, I love that it's like that big bubble shape, but it's a little, like, kind of like. It's like the perfect amount of messed up, but still. Still quaffed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Agreed.

[Naomi Smalls]

But I. I kind of wish this was a floor length. I'm not gonna lie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He wears a floor, like, every episode.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know, but, like, I just love seeing, like, Rue as, like, a column, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Rue. Rue columns, honey.

[Naomi Smalls]

This heron, Michelle. I don't. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I Agree, too. Now, I love Michelle facade. Michelle literally always kills it. But this, like, bouffant, coiffed thing, it aged her a little bit. And Michelle looks so young and chic.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. I normally always love the hair, but that was just like a little. It was a little too hairspray. Like, off Broadway for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Off Broadway.

[Naomi Smalls]

Ross looks. I mean, Ross looks snatched.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ross is snatched, bitch. Also, he looks like someone just plucked him straight out the 70s. This. I love the top. I like the pants. I think Ross looks because last season or the season or for the past two seasons, it was sparkly bomber jacket.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Reverse sequence. Sparkly bomber. So I like that he's changing it out. He looks very cute.

[Naomi Smalls]

And I love that Janelle Monae, when they asked about her look, what's your inspiration? She goes, janelle Monae, I live.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. I did not know she was always black and white. Is that. Is that. Has that always been a thing?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, she's, like, always black and white. I mean, I'm sure not all the time. All the time. Color she's ever worn, but as of late, she's always in the black and white.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Interesting. Okay. Janelle Monae works. And it's a full gap. I love it goes from this. From the small lines to the big lines. Janelle Monae better work. Do you think Janelle Monae is a fashion icon?

[Naomi Smalls]

I think she always brings it. I don't know if she's necessarily, like, who do you consider a fashion icon?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know anymore. Like, who are the fashion icons? Let me think. I mean, I mean, people can love or hate them. The Kardashians are fashion night. Like, they set trends.

[Naomi Smalls]

They are definitely trendsetters. Yeah. Style.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Well, I guess I don't. I don't know if that makes them a fashion icon then. But they are trendsetters.

[Naomi Smalls]

Like, I feel like fashion icon to me is like, Donatella Versace, like Anna Wintour Carlage, Andre Leon. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Like, in the fashion world, and they're an icon, but yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I wonder, do you think Kim would ever be a guest judge on the show?

[Naomi Smalls]

I feel like she would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm sure they've, like, reached out and there's. Because Chloe has done it, so.

[Naomi Smalls]

But you know what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Naomi Smalls]

They're Christian.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They do have a bucket. Church girl.

[Naomi Smalls]

You know who I would actually love to see as a guest judge, like, liter at this time, at this age would be Northwest Naomi. That would be iconic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Naomi. No.

[Naomi Smalls]

That would be iconic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Absolutely not. I always wonder. I'm like, do you, like. Do you think the Kardashians watch Drag Race? Or do you think, like, Kourtney or. Isn't that Chloe? Like, watching this? I'm like, they don't watch the show.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't know if they watch it, but I definitely feel like they're, like. Teams are, like, inspired.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Like, I feel like their glam squads are they. I feel like they have had a drag queen on a mood board that they have, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Gone into a shoot scene.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Wasn't Khloe Kardashian the guest judge?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, she was, like, a long time ago. Twice. She was.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think so, yeah, she was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. Shlo. Definitely was, for sure. But back then, though, you know, this is before the Kardashians were what they are now. This was probably, like, season seven or something like that.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think Chris would also be a fierce judge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Chris would be a great judge on Drag Race. I could see that. Kris Jenner would be a great. She'd be great.

[Naomi Smalls]

And I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And her rue are friends.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. I think her and Ru would have a really cool dynamic, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Um, let's get into these lurks.

[Naomi Smalls]

First up, scared. Let's just keep in mind these hoes made them. But we're not being soft because of that reason. It's just something to keep in mind.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, for sure. And we have a Mistress Isabella Brooks. I think this looks fucking great.

[Naomi Smalls]

Amazing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She looks so good.

[Naomi Smalls]

Incredible. I love her. Like, this ocelot or leopard or whatever we're calling it. Super flattering. The black is super flattering.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. And she had this, like, cape thing lit. I think she looks so, so good. Like this. Like this. This bodice, this leopard bodice. It looks so well made. Like, how it's patterned. Like, I'm like, this knows how to sew. Like, this looks very, very, very good.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes. I love that. She just, like, also, she knows she's fierce, and she's gonna let us know when she's on the Runway or in drag ever, that she's fucking fierce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I agree. I've said it from day one. She's in my top three. I want her to at this right now. She's one of my. She's definitely one of my front runners. I have her and two other people tied to win the show, but I fucking love Mistress Isabella Brooks for sure.

[Naomi Smalls]

Obsessed. I'm so happy she's here. I will say it's really hard to do this whole, like, us, like, ostrich thing with the hair, like, the black ostrich it just, like. It doesn't read as ostrich when you're wearing black hair. So. Yeah, it just reads as, like, another hair texture, which is a little funky. But, yeah, I think. Yeah, some editing that could have been

[Bob the Drag Queen]

done, but, yeah, I think that she wanted. She. I think she wanted to wear the. She clearly attached the ocelot to the feather thing of the fascinator. But I think to bring her back to the Michelle visage of it all, she put on black hair. And I'm like, I think it's going to work with blonde hair, too. But the black hair is very striking, though, so I don't know.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, I love the black hair. I just don't like the black ostrich.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The black ostrich it up a little bit. Let's go on to Aura Mayari boot. No. Right?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. No, like, weird skirt length. No tits, but pads. Like, what are we doing? I hate that. I hate that. Like, if you're gonna put a hip pad in, put a titty in, put some titties in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, this is a no. Like, it's. It's. Yeah, it's. No, it's. No, I don't like it. I don't like this gold little collar thing. And I think she tried to. I think that the skirt is lined. Is that lined at the back? But it's just. No, it's just. It's like a loincloth, but, like a, like, bad party city loincloth, cave woman outfit.

[Naomi Smalls]

Is it like a scarf that's hanging around her neck in the back?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think so, maybe. And then she has, like, the drape for the curtain as, like, a sash, a belt. Sash thing. No, no.

[Naomi Smalls]

I do like the. The bra, like, how it is, like, on that. Like, it almost looks like it, like, folds over to one side. I do like that detail.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a nice little detail, but to me, still overall up.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go to Amethyst girl. She was tripping over that fucking thing the whole time, and I was trying to not pay to pay attention to it, but this is just no girl.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know. All I can say is, like, poor thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. She had, like, a good week last week, and now she's back to being a bottom bitch. And she tried to put this. This gray stole to bring, like, why even. I just don't even. I just don't aesthetically, like, why?

[Naomi Smalls]

Very. I think it was ambitious. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was. And Luxx was even trying to help her in the workroom, but. And she was Just saying, like, Lux is trying to, like, help me, like, tell me to just go here. But you can tell. No shade. I mean, based on what I've seen this episode, you can tell she doesn't have, like, a strong sense of design, because she was like, she's telling me to put this hair and drink this hair, but I don't even know why. I don't know if that looks good or she said.

[Naomi Smalls]

I'm like, I don't have eyes for that. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So you don't have a sense of style, girl. And this is showing in this.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, it just. It doesn't seem like it definitely is wearing her, and she's not wearing much, and I don't understand that. It's like ruffle pants, panty, like, at the slit thing. Yeah. Like what I. Yeah, I feel. It makes me feel bad for her. And that's never, like, what you want to think when you're watching a drag queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And she's a sweet girl. Her talking heads are sweet. Ms. Amethyst is sleep, but this is a no.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go over to Ms. Spice.

[Naomi Smalls]

I like it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Naomi. I like it.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, I hate the tights. The tight color is a boot. But, like, I like the outfit, and I love the hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love the hair. But I mean, like, I like it from, like, the little. The top of the waist up. Like, the black man with the bra and the purple thing. Like, that's a strong design choice, but that skirt is a throwaway. Like, that definitely is not cute. And just slapping them purple. That purple fabric on them. Shoes and on your wrists.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, but I like that there's, like, a thought. Like, there's like, a. I mean, the hair has purple. The straps are purple. Like, the pop of color is, like, cohesive. The lacing is, like, something different. I love the, like, X on her underneath the bra. I don't know if she's wearing tits. I'd love if she was wearing tits since she is potted. But one thing I will say, definitely not wearing tits. Both, I think maybe. I don't know if they both did it, but I feel like spice because I'm just watching it. I wish that when, like, she hits the end of the Runway, instead of, like, putting her hand up and, like, looking to the side and all that. Like, just when you're on the Runway. Look at the damn camera. Just look at the damn camera. If you're not gonna look at the judges, look at the camera and just exude so much more confidence.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You hit her first for all you girls is going to be a season 16. And Naomi Smalls is giving y' all sound advice. Look at the fucking camera. Walk down the Runway and look at the camera. Mug. Give it to me.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes. Yes. Eye contact is just so hot in every capacity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it gives you. It gives you more. Je ne sais quoi. So Naomi says a toot. I say a boot on this spice look. I think from the waist down, it's a throwaway, but that's just me. Up next is Luxx Noir London.

[Naomi Smalls]

She fucking did that fucking 8, 8, 8, 8, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She ordered seconds, thirds. It was Thanksgiving. It was. She had the Hungry man meal. This bitch looks so good. So, so good.

[Naomi Smalls]

So bomb. Like, it, like, in it is a fabric cape. I don't know how the hell she, like, paneled it so it just, like, it caught the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was.

[Naomi Smalls]

Everything about this is just such a serve.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, this is so well done. And patterning the pants like that so that the stripes met so it didn't look all like. So the stripes weren't going down on one side and sideways on the next side. Like, she. It was so well put together, and it was so well constructed. Shlux looks fucking great. And having it, like, the cape cropped in the front so it has all the drama at the back. The cording hair she used, bringing it up to the hair, she better work. She looks great.

[Naomi Smalls]

In an interview, she said that Naomi

[Bob the Drag Queen]

was her favorite rue girl. Do.

[Naomi Smalls]

Would you like to say anything to your biggest fan? Oh, I love that. I mean, honestly, I do see it, like, in her makeup and her, like, not necessarily. We don't have, like, the exact same makeup, but I see, like, the nose contour, and I think we have some similar references. And honestly, I. That's probably the coolest thing about drag is that what you do gets to inspire, like, the next generation. And I do love seeing, like, anyone that has been touched by the Naomi Smalls bug, because it is an infection.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you see, so The Lux is 23 now. Season eight was, what, seven years ago? Eight years ago. So you. Minus that. So Alex was, like, 15. She was in some. Some gay kid in high school watching Drag Race, seeing herself in Naomi Smalls, like, oh, my God, I want to. I want to be that fierce one day, you know?

[Naomi Smalls]

And she absolutely is. And she's also the only, like, I know it's only been, what, four episodes now? But, like, the only entrance line I remember gagged them a bit, for sure. I'm obsessed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you know, and I want to Say this, too, because people. People are saying that Lux is being delusional, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they're making it like a race thing. I want to say this. It is. Honestly, it is an asset to be delusional on Drag Race. You want to go on Drag Race being delusional? Some of your favorite winners were fucking delusional. Bob the Drag Queen was delusional on the season. You know what I mean? Like, Aquaria was fucking delusional. Like, Yvie Ollie was like, you have. No one is saying that being delusional is bad. I think in the parameters of a competition, reality show, bitch, you want to be delusional. You want to think you are the best. You want to think you are exceptional every time. Like, that. That is not a negative thing.

[Naomi Smalls]

And I think Ru wants that, too. Like, when you look at a winner, you're not going to be like, oh, I want the meek one. No one is saying that. No one is saying that. Yeah, agreed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You want. Being delusional is an asset in Drag Race. I honestly think so.

[Naomi Smalls]

For sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to Robin Fierce. Robin Fierce. I thought this was good. I don't think it was, like, slam dunk. I don't think it was bad. I think it was a good, safe look.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's a boot for me. I think it's well made.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Really?

[Naomi Smalls]

I do think it's well made. There's just some. It's just boring, you know? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What I would change is I would make that asymmetrical skirt a little more interesting. Like, they were. It was too close to, like. It was like. Instead of, like, this, I'll make it more like this, so it's a little more interesting to the eye. And that, like, shoulder pad thing, I wish you would have hid that strap, but it's something else with it to make it look more cohesive. But I think it's a safe look,

[Naomi Smalls]

and I think that the. When she's, like, walking, the way that the, like, air picks it up, it just. I mean, it's a design challenge. I know it's small, but, like, if she just lined, like, those first two pleats that were, like, kind of, like, flipping up, you didn't have to do the whole thing. I think it would have just elevated it so much more instead of seeing that, like, white backing of the flannel and. Yeah, it's a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's.

[Naomi Smalls]

Honestly, it's not a boot. It's not a boot. It's okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Yeah, it's. Yeah. And I also. Yeah, I Agree. I agree.

[Naomi Smalls]

I agree.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to Jax now. This is a very controversial week, this look. This week, girl, people are feeling so different type of ways. I like this look. I think that this was a. I did not expect that she could sew so well. I. How she made this. I think the skirt is so well done. Yeah. The jacket is a little ill feeling, but she. She made a jacket, a skirt, and shoe covers, boot covers for the Runway. I think this is a good look. I like it.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think it's a good look too. I think the styling is where. Yeah, I don't think Ru likes that wig, to be honest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the collar and the wig take you out of the world. But again, like, as someone who on season 10, I only brought like, 10, like one per thing with me. Like, I was like, bitch, I. I know what these other ones go to. I would be so afraid to wear another wig for something else. But I agree, this wig does not work. And that collar doesn't work either. She could have done something else.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think her. She was like one of the only ones that really opened up before the Runway about, like, how she was adopted by, like, two white parents.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Very interesting. I almost like. I feel like I kind of got that vibe before she even, like, brought it up. I think that's probably just cuz it's something that I like, relate to as well. Not necessarily the, like, feeling of belonging. Yeah. Not like the. Not because I had, like, so many siblings that had, you know, similar story. But I definitely. It was nice to hear that because I think there's a lot of kids out there that go through that. But I kind of got the vibe, like, through her drag that some of the things she was doing, I was like, that. It doesn't seem like it comes from the same place.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, I hear that. I feel that too. I want to rewind a little because I forgot because, oh, this episode, we saw Rue doing walkthroughs. We have not seen Rue do walkthroughs at all this season. Cause there's so many girls. We didn't see any of the Snatch Game. And I like the walkthroughs. My favorite walkthrough was when Ru was talking to Amethyst and he was just going. Cause she was telling him his ideas. And he was like, well, you don't sew. You've been in the bottom twice. Your feet stink, your head is uneven. How can you win? And I was like, Damn, RuPaul.

[Naomi Smalls]

Damn. I remember hearing her reply to Ru. In that moment. And I remember being like, she's gonna go home. Because she's like, gee, thanks. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's not. That's not girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, right, right. Let's go on to Anetra. Let's talk about Anitra. Thoughts?

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, I like seeing her as a blonde. Fucking hate the shoe. Hate, hate that shoe. I wouldn't even wear that shoe out of Dragon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the shoe is not cute. I don't. I don't. I have. My feet are too big to wear flat shoes. Like, I need to have a heel, so I give. Give some kind of femininity. Like, my feet are. I just have huge feet, so I would never wear a flat shoe. Not even that. So I agree. I think her outfit is interesting, though. I love the asymmetry of all of it. I love this, like, pink panty slash skirt. It was like, a pert. I think that's really cute. And I like the top, too. I like this look. I think this is a good look. It looks well made, too, for such a short amount of time.

[Naomi Smalls]

Interesting details that no one else had. But, fuck, man, that shoe is just so, so ugly. The. Yeah, I love seeing her in blonde. I love the blue eyeshadow. I love, like, everything worked except for that goddamn shoe and the color of the tights.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, hey, yeah, what's going on with the tights?

[Naomi Smalls]

Like, do these girls just, like, never see the sun? Do they not let the girls outside to the pool anymore?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I will say, like, I know, because girls go on. Go on Drag Race, and they'll be like, well, I didn't know that the TV changes get color of tights. I'm like, when I went on Drag Race, Even on season 10, my tights always match. I never had this. Like, I didn't watch the show back and be like, oh, I didn't know my tights were so light or my tights are so dark. My tights always match my thing fully. So I don't know. Again, I'm not saying that's not the case for other people, but that just wasn't my thing. Like, my tights always worked on camera.

[Naomi Smalls]

The. My beautiful nightmare Runway last week. Lux's grayscale situation with the tights. I have. I've been in the exact same shoes, though it did not look good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were when you did the grayscale Raven.

[Naomi Smalls]

The Raven, yeah. What I think was my. Was my flaw when I did it is I definitely wore, like, the brown tights underneath. I mean, I don't pad. So that was already a recipe for disaster. Like, it was. I didn't know what I was doing, but I was doing the brown tights, and then I did, like, a gray pair of tights over. And then I think I did a black fishnet. If anyone's doing this in the future, I think what you need to do is do. Yes, you can do your brown tights, because I know those are the compression ones, but I think you should do, like, almost like fleece. Like a gray fleece tight over all of that, which is, like, thicker. And then do the black fishnet over that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it. Okay.

[Naomi Smalls]

Just something that's not so, like, opaque and, like, shape, sheer. Like a type.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Lux. Luxx. Really? She is really doing the Naomi small school of drag. Even the gray thing, I just. I just made that connection.

[Naomi Smalls]

We make the same mistakes. We have the same nose.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But let's go on to Selena S Cities. Another controversial look. What do you think about this look?

[Naomi Smalls]

You know what? I did not hate it. I think as much as everyone else did. I liked it better when it was like, of course, the, like, the parachute skirt situation was down. I think she should have this hair color made all the time. Like, I think this is my favorite hair color on her. But, yeah, it's. I don't think it's that bad. And I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me too.

[Naomi Smalls]

I liked it. Do you think she made that, like, red romper long sleeve thing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, I think Selena. Selena, she did a post on it. She made everything that she wore, every single thing. So I. First of all, that skirt, bitch. The skirt was so well made. The leotard with the romper thing covering the bra.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I was, like, gagged, actually, because, like, later on when it actually stayed on and it didn't, like, unsnap or get fucked up when she's moving around. I was like, oh, this is, like, well made.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think I was gagged. When the judges were, like. When they, like, read her for a little bit, I was like, what? I was like, yeah, she came out in the thing. But from the time the reveal, like, I think it was all. And to make that in the time and to make this in the same time, Spice made her bra and skirt or aura made that thing.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, let's keep the pressure on aura instead of spice. I think Aura's look over this was like, come on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, Like, I was like, you gotta be kidding me. I think Selena looked great. I thought this was very well done. Also. All the tones of it, too. Like, the brown with, with the, the maroon. Like, I don't know, I just, I just thought it was a, it was a good look. But they, they came for her and Jax on the fit issues. Somebody. It was like a little baggy. Yeah, bitch. I just made this outfit in eight hours.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. But also like, I think she should have just maybe let go of that like parachute like jacket at the top of the Runway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, like, like as soon as she

[Naomi Smalls]

came out, like spin into it and then walk, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Maybe she had this on too long because this picture we have, she's at the bottom of the Runway with this damn bed, comforter, sleeping bag,

[Naomi Smalls]

lumberjack, sleeping bag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to Sasha Colby, mother of the house of Colby. Bitch. She is snatched.

[Naomi Smalls]

She said Orlando, drag, slingshot, like house of. You know, everything. It was, it's bomb.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. She looks so fucking good. This like high. This, this fucking. This fucking. The eyes were watching. God. Pony. But just Pony. She's fucking. Sasha has a who girl. That shit is high. It is snatched.

[Naomi Smalls]

I love it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she's like painted. Sasha is normally painted, but today she's like, she, she looks like paint painted.

[Naomi Smalls]

She looks. I mean, the body too, like, the body is painted, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Children, take a note. This is Naomi Smalls, Trixie Mattel, Sasha Colby. If it is going to the camera, you put, you're putting some foundation on it. If it's skin.

[Naomi Smalls]

And you know what? She would it have been even more kind. What a non sturdy show. Just give me a stiletto, girls. Is it so much to ask for a stiletto? A pump like give me, give me an uncomfortable shoe for something that's gonna live on for the rest of your life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Imagine this was like a nice like open toed, like 5 inch sandal. No platform.

[Naomi Smalls]

Come on. Yeah. I mean that's asking a lot. I'm just asking for a four incher. I'm asking for a four inch period.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I, and I agree with Michelle, like this, this jacket design where it's like, like a, like a tight shirt into this shrug into a cake like. That is so cool. That is. I've never seen that before. That's really cool.

[Naomi Smalls]

That was a cool like design element with like the little shoulder and billowy sleeve and it's lined like, it's just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, lined. So, so, so, so, so good. Up next, Loosey Laduca.

[Naomi Smalls]

I hate it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. This is not one of my favorites. I don't think this is very well done. I know she's going for this like, St. 70s mom, Palm Springs aesthetic. But

[Naomi Smalls]

why are we trying to age ourself even more?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She looks so old. She makes her drags. She makes her drag so old. Right? Maybe she really. She. She likes that.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's giving Ella bidet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, oh, my God, I forgot.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ella Vade does not like. She does not fuck with me. Because we did. I think we did watch a read for her season or whatever it is, and I would read her like, every show. She hates me.

[Naomi Smalls]

But you know what I love?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Naomi Smalls]

That the girls get in their feelings over you guys opinion. You know, that's when you know you've made it. Like, when you guys care like that. Like, it obviously hit a nerve.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Ella doesn't fuck with me, and I hope Lucy doesn't stop fucking with me because I would fuck her. But this is not. This is not. This is not it boot.

[Naomi Smalls]

I've also. I feel like I've just like, seen, like, I've seen this hair. I've seen. Yeah, I'm just like, this look, though, is really good for Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For what?

[Naomi Smalls]

Blonde, big, white? Great for Drag Race. Drag Race loves that shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do. I think that I would like to see Lucy change up the hair color at some point this season.

[Naomi Smalls]

Like, she did the black last week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, she did. You're right. She did.

[Naomi Smalls]

She did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She did. She did, she did, she did. I guess because she's from Connecticut and she's blonde. I just. Oh, I like, I think Lucy's giving me white, white. Like, white, white, white, white.

[Naomi Smalls]

And I get offended by that. Like, overly whiteness offends me for some. Like, Bob, my fate. One of my favorite quotes was one of your guys'. Something on the Patreon. Bob said, why, like, I don't get more annoyed than watching a bunch of white people in a crowd laughing. Why the are y' all laughing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But what y' all laughing at? I.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, bury that. Like, that's how I feel when I see a queen, like, do the whole, like, I'm a Barbie. Not I'm a Barbie. Because I'm not trying to. Like, I'm not reading, like, because I. I stand Trixie's aesthetic so hard because it's like, you know, but, like, I don't know. I've just seen like, the whole, like, blonde big tease. Like, we've. We've seen it so, like, make it

[Bob the Drag Queen]

different so many times. Yeah. Make a different girl.

[Naomi Smalls]

But if I put my. If I put my thumb over Lucy here, I would think it was like, Trixie or Ella, the Day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. I'm doing it right now. And I agree, because Trixie is this tacky. Trixie would get this outfit made and wear it like it's cute. So I see Trixie.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, my gosh. I have a story about All Stars 4.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. Tell me.

[Naomi Smalls]

So when Monique and I got kicked to the back to watch you and Trinity lip sync.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Huh?

[Naomi Smalls]

And then the past winners of All Stars came out, and it was Chad, Alaska, and Trixie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Huh.

[Naomi Smalls]

Monique leans over to me and she goes. Because Trixie was wearing, like that, like, flat. I think it was like gingham or, like, flannel or some kind of, like,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

floor length, but it was, like, a stretched little dress. Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

And Monique leans over to me and she goes, is this bitch wearing cotton? One of my favorite core memories

[Bob the Drag Queen]

is this bitch wearing cotton.

[Naomi Smalls]

Love it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sis.

[Naomi Smalls]

Sis,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

let's go on to this. Malaysia, baby doll. Foxtrot. Foxtail. I forget her last name. She was, like, eight. I can't remember. Dupree Davenport. Malaysia. I think this came out good.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, I think it came out really good, too. Especially, like, because I didn't understand what she was making. And, I mean, I still don't really understand the cape, to be honest. I wish it had, like, some sort of, like, the palm was like, maybe cut the palm leaves and have it, like, kind of like, you know, doesn't have to be like, oh, so it's not a straight line. Yeah, I don't understand, like, a straight line in design. But yeah, I mean, she has a guy, she got a purse, she got a hat, she got a cape, she got a belt. So that's accessorized. And she looks great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like that little sash in the middle. That kind of throws me off a little bit. But I saw some fan fiction online. Do we think that allegedly people think that Malaysia knows how to sew, but she was trying to give herself the edit that she doesn't know how to sew so that she would. The judges would be so impressed that she would win. Do you think this might be going on here? Because this is very well done.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I don't know about that theory, but I do know she should wipe her teeth. Get that lipstick off that damn teeth. Like, that's what I do know for. For fact.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I don't know about that. I don't know. She should wipe her fucking teeth. Brush your hair.

[Naomi Smalls]

Brush your teeth, bitch. Brush your goddamn teeth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And last but not least, Ms. Marcia. Marcia. Marcia. Serving the House of Ross. I think this was it's. Not terrible. I mean, Fulte is just a circle skirt. It's a circle skirt, which, in my opinion, is one of the easiest things to make in drag. It's a circle skirt, but again, it's a silhouette we don't see very often. And she has this, like, top. I think it's fine. It's not terrible. It's not good, but it's fine.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's fine. Yeah, it's a forgettable look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. No one is remembering this, you know, Weird length.

[Naomi Smalls]

Weird length. Weird length.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I think she's trying to do her whole, like, like, young woman in, like, the 70s aesthetic. Like, not too slutty, but, like, lower than the knee length. I don't know.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's like her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her brand. This, like, 70s girl.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, it's like 70s, but, like, minimalistic. I don't actually. I don't hate her makeup, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it's getting. Is getting bigger. I think that. Because I think people learn from Dusty Robotics. You take more than one episode to fix what they tell you. You're going home. So she's probably back there trying to sweat and bitch. Just a wing.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Yeah. I feel bad, though, because it's like you go, you were. You were auditioned looking a certain way. Why are, like, reading me for who I am when it comes like, like, make like, who you. Your makeup and your body is like, just something that they know come in. Yeah. So if you're going to tell a girl to start wearing pads or whatever, like, bitch, I didn't wear pads in my audition video. So why are you saying this right now? So I feel I. I feel bad because I feel like you. You're going to look back and look at those, like, experimental makeup moments that you had on the show. Uh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, you're gonna look back like, like, like, like, like Derrick Barry. Exactly.

[Naomi Smalls]

Bury that, Bury that. Because then, you know, then you're crying in front of a mirror message, and it's like, you don't even look like yourself. You know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whose look? First of all, which house do you think gave the overall best presentation?

[Naomi Smalls]

Probably Palm Springs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Palm Springs.

[Naomi Smalls]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think overall, Palm Springs gave the best.

[Naomi Smalls]

Maybe. Actually, I don't know, maybe Michelle's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know, because in each one, there's. Carson's. Has the one I like with the least amount of people.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's the part. And.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, but in Michelle's, I only like. I only like two of them. And Michelle's. I only like mistress. Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay, so for Michelle's, I like Mistress Isabel and I like Spice and Lux. And Lux. But for Carson, I only like Anetra. And then for Palm Springs, I like Sasha. And Malaysia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. You know, I think I'll give it to Michelle. I think overall, Michelle the best. And because I think Mistress. I think Mistress Isabelle and Luxx are so strong. They're probably my two favorite looks of the night, so I'll have to give it to them.

[Naomi Smalls]

Was Mistress safe or was she critiqued?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She wasn't critiqued. She was safe.

[Naomi Smalls]

These fucking judges are so stupid. Or I was safe too, huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Bye, Pebbles.

[Naomi Smalls]

Bye.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who's your favorite look of the night?

[Naomi Smalls]

Luxx for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Luxx for sure.

[Naomi Smalls]

Gagged me a bat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Luxx for sure. I would have switched Sasha and Mistress Isabelle Brooks for the top for the second place. I really would have. Sasha was like the top. I would have. I would have switched them out. I think Mistress Isabel looks really fucking good.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I think she killed it. Yeah, for sure. Those are the top three. Cause who was the top?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was Luxx, Sasha and who else was it? I think Malaysia.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, that's right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

But like. Yeah, yeah. No, Malaysia and Mistress are not on the same level.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not at all. I'm sorry about it.

[Naomi Smalls]

Sorry, who were you gonna say?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who do you think had the worst look?

[Naomi Smalls]

I feel like I booted one real fast. Which one was it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, yeah, Aura. It's. For me, it's a tie between. The worst look is Aura and Poopy Laduca. That was just. That was. I'm not about it also. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I still think Amethyst had the worst look.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, that's right. Maybe I just. Yeah, maybe I just like Amethyst like personality.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But yeah, I think bottom to Amethyst in looks. Amethyst and. And Aura. And I would give it to Amethyst because she was tripping over it. She was just a mess.

[Naomi Smalls]

Could you imagine having to lip sync in an outfit that. Man.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That being said, I do not. Selena did not belong in the bottom. Selena was not a bottom look. The fact that they try to tell us that this look Selena made was a bottom look, I'm. It's so up, cuz it was not.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know. Crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's crazy.

[Naomi Smalls]

Honestly, this is my favorite glam I've ever seen on Selena. I think she really needs her custom hairlines in this hair color.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ooh, Selena City's. You hear her hair first. Get you some more red auburn. Fantasies bomb. Also, this thing, anytime there is tartan or plaid, this like Automatic Westwood reference. It drives me so crazy.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, my God. I'm so guilty of that, though. The first thing I said for Scarecrow, I was like Vivian Westwind.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But yours was punk. You had the punk and the silhouette. These are just like. I mean, besides, maybe Jax is giving, like, a little punk. Selena is not punk. What's her name?

[Naomi Smalls]

Robin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Robin. I guess Robin does feel a little Westwood, actually, because of the boots and shit. Maybe I'm just a hater.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't know. I. I'm with you. I actually hate the boots on Robin, too. Like the. I don't. I like that boot as a boot, but I don't like this. That boot with this look. There's no. There's no black in her outfit anywhere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's in her skin. Naomi.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, got it. Brown skin, girl. My braids are black. My pupils are black. So I'm going to wear black shoes. Yeah. No, that's not how it works.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we have Zelita and Amethyst doing the lip sync. And Selena is going all in. Girl. She is flipping. She is cartwheeling. She is leaving it on the floor. She's like, y' all are not sending me home. Bitch, I drove here from WeHo. I'm not going back home tonight.

[Naomi Smalls]

Her body looks fucking amazing in this lipstick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It really looks good. Great padding.

[Naomi Smalls]

The thighs are. The ass. Is it assing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the ass is assing.

[Naomi Smalls]

When she gets on the floor and does. What do they call that, like, when you, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. The cool kids probably have a name for it. I don't know what the name is, though. I'm not cool with it enough.

[Naomi Smalls]

Me either. I'm also not thick enough for that, you know. You know, when I came.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Naomi Smalls]

You what? You want to know what Jacob called me? He's been hanging. He's been hanging around you guys a little too long.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What he called you?

[Naomi Smalls]

Guess

[Bob the Drag Queen]

what he called you.

[Naomi Smalls]

I would just like everybody to know that Ms. Smalls is doing a bit right now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Walks in. Jacob like, hey, what's up? My.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's exactly how it went.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow. That's exactly Jacob.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm just kidding. No, Jacob actually got me a phone charger because I came unprepared with my 1%. And a glass of water. True hospitality.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

True. Yeah, I, I. I'm not that nice to my guests. I'm even better. I always take care of my guests when they come over.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, absolutely. Shaved. Shaved your cats? Because I was cold. Maybe a blanket.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Naomi, thank you so much for coming in. Giving us your expert opinion and your expertise on a little Drag Race challenge. We love you so much here.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, I love to be here. Rip Amethyst. And I hope I get to come back and talk more shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of course. We should just. You, Bob and I should do an episode before the season is over. Like, all three of us on one together. That'll be cute.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think we also need to do a video of us all gluing our nails on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I'm serious, Jacob. I'm going to do a Patreon exclusive of me gluing my nails on. And I'm gonna. I'm not gonna skimp any time. I'm gonna do it in real time.

[Naomi Smalls]

We're not. We're just getting ready for a gig. Like, every gig should have nails.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I promise, y', all, it's not a minute long. I promise it's not a minute.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, I. Maybe I'm just, you know, hardcore.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all will be back next week with another episode.

[Naomi Smalls]

Who's winning?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my top three. Oh, we were saying this. My top three are Mistress Lux and Lucy Laduca.

[Naomi Smalls]

Because of. Not Sasha.

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[Naomi Smalls]

I know. I was gonna say Sasha.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, sorry, Mistress Lux. Sasha. I forgot Sasha. Mistress Luck. Sasha. That's my. That's my top three.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I'm. I'm in the same way, but I feel like I have a hunch, like, Spice will get there. No, really? Maybe not. Maybe I'm just hopeful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Stranger things. Stranger things.

[Naomi Smalls]

But definitely Sasha. Mistress Lux.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apparently, I used to work at the same gym as the twins. Well, they used to work out at my gym. I used to work at, you know. You know where I used to work out. Work out at. And then the gym got. When they were like, we can't work out anywhere. Cause that gym is. My gym is hood. That gym is a mess. It's a fucking terrible gym. And they went over to, like, a nicer gym. Cause my gym was too trashy.

[Naomi Smalls]

I'm surprised. I haven't seen them out and about in LA yet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know, right? But maybe just didn't like to go out. They mean their whole drag career is inside. They're like, we want to stay inside.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's true. Honestly, it's the future. Look at us now, honestly, Sitting on our fat asses, talking in a microphone,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you know? So, mailman, I love you so much.

[Naomi Smalls]

Thank you so much for having me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We love you very much. And I'll see you next time.