The One About Monet's Panties

Summary

Sibling Rivalry Podcast

Episode: "The One About Monet's Panties"

Date: January 19, 2026
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob The Drag Queen

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Episode Overview

In this riotously candid episode, Bob and Monét dive into stories about their pasts, debate pop culture, and try to outwit each other in a new segment where they must seamlessly segue into surprise topics. The episode’s highlights include Monét’s infamous "panties" look, the ins and outs of "gooning," a chat on drag race-era cell phone nostalgia, award show snubs, and their philosophies on authenticity, content creation, and queer identity.

As always, the dynamic between Bob and Monét brings rapid-fire wit, playful shade, and a steady string of memorable confessions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sibling Segue-rent: Seamless Topic Transitions

• Description: Bob introduces a new challenge for the episode: Each host is secretly given a topic (via text) and has to transition to it within 15 minutes, undetected by the other.
• Memorable Exchanges:
  • Monét is assigned "gooning," while Bob’s topic is "the unexplored ocean."
  • [02:32] Bob: “Seamless transition. You know who is crazy talented? Andrew Barrett Cox…”
  • Comedic confusion ensues as they try to catch each other's segues and debate if the rules were followed.

2. Panty-Gate: Monét’s Infamous Look

• Context: Bob recounts the tale of Monét accidentally performing with her panties visibly sticking out of her leotard at Industry Bar.
• Quote:
  • [54:38] Bob: “Your panties are sticking out…instead of being like, 'oh,' Monét goes, 'I meant to do that. I like it actually. I like how it looks.'"
  • Monét turns the wardrobe malfunction into a comedic bit, wearing it proudly at subsequent shows.

3. What is "Gooning"? A Generational Divide Exposed

• Discovery: Monét admits she doesn’t know what "gooning" means, thinking it’s “drinking too much and acting silly.”
• Bob clarifies:
  • [15:28] Bob: “Gooning is when you masturbate for so long that you lose your mind and you start making these, like, crazy faces… edging for so long that you have lost your mind.”
  • Laughter and incredulity ensue as Monét reacts with, “What in the boomer is going on?”
• [16:45] Conversation continues on masturbation habits, edges, and personal preferences.

4. Queer Identity & Porn Stats

• Bob’s Philosophy:
  • [08:21] Bob: “There are no straight people. Straight people don’t exist. Cis people do not exist.”
  • The hosts discuss sexuality and gender as spectrums, referencing RuPaul’s “we’re all born naked and the rest is drag” philosophy.
• Porn Viewing Insights:
  • They’re shocked to learn [08:56] "hentai"—not trans porn—is the most searched globally, and discuss why straight men might watch gay/trans porn.
  • [09:53] Bob: "Femboy is pretty high up there. It’s up 15 spots from last year."

5. Award Shows, Snubs, and Drag in Public

• Bob and Monét talk about the AVN (Adult Video Network) Awards, TikTok Awards and the experience of going to events in drag.
• [12:30] Bob: “Gotta be honest, going places in drag just isn’t my cup of tea.”
• They share which creators they voted for and debate the merits of award show voting.

6. Cell Phone Nostalgia & Generational Shifts

• Extensive reminiscing on the evolution of cell phone plans and the culture of "nights and weekends," rollover minutes, and first cell phones.
  • [27:12] Bob: “Back in the day, people could not call you before 8 o'clock…nights and weekends were free.”
  • [27:51] Monét: “I got my first cell phone in sixth grade…I had that for a year, then I transitioned to the Sidekick.”

7. Working for Allowance – Childhood Hustles

• Monét: Paid for taking out garbage and extra chores by her aunt.
• Bob: Mowed lawns and started a candy business, complete with a catalog menu and a living room “candy store.”
  • [34:13] Bob: “I asked my mother for a $100 loan. She lent me the money and then I paid her back.”
• The two compare yard sizes and trade friendly jabs about the hardships of their childhood chores.

8. Friendship Dynamics & Advice

• Discussion on asking for advice:
  • [41:09] Monét: “Honestly, I don’t think there’s any perspective you could have offered me that I needed [on The Traitors].”
  • They reflect on how their relationship has evolved, with Monét now known in her own right.

9. Podcasts as an Industry – Awards and Firsts

• [47:01] Golden Globes nominate podcasts: Bob roots for “Up First,” Monét defends “Call Her Daddy.”
• Podcast origin:
  • [50:56] Trivia: "2003" as the year podcasts began.

10. Drag Race, Queens of a Certain Age, and Shade

• Determining “a woman of a certain age” in drag:
  • [58:09] Bob: “If you’re a RuGirl, you're a woman of a certain age at like, 37.”
• Discussion: Bianca Del Rio, Charlie Hides—all laced with their signature comedic takes.

11. Charlie Hides, Blackface, and Community Accountability

• Bob shares being blocked by Charlie Hides after discussing her past blackface character "Laquisha Jones" on the podcast.
• [61:07] Bob: “And then she had to rebrand her as a wigger. She just stopped painting herself black, but she was still doing it.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Drag, Gender, and Sexuality:

  • [08:21 | Bob]: “There are no straight people…Cis people do not exist.”
  • [11:08 | Bob]: “We are all non-binary and we are all pansexual.”

• On Squirting & Porn:

  • [05:24 | Bob]: “Yeah, I think you squirt or you don't squirt.”
  • [04:31 | Bob]: “When I squirt, it is. I am just pissing on people.” (Referencing a porn star he met)

• On Content Creation:

  • [06:42 | Bob]: “I firmly believe you should not create the kind of content you don't want to watch, right?”
  • [06:49 | Monét]: “No, I don't agree with that.”

• On "Panty-Gate":

  • [54:38 | Bob]: “Monét, your panties are sticking out. Like, we can see your panties ... and not only that, I like it. I love how it looks.”

• On Gooning:

  • [15:28 | Bob]: “Gooning is when you masturbate for so long that you lose your mind and you start making these, like, crazy faces.”

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Sibling Segue-rent Introduced: 02:01
• AVN Awards & Pornography Chat: 03:01 – 06:40
• Queer Porn Stats & Sexuality: 07:26 – 09:56
• Discussion of Award Shows: 12:43 – 13:39
• Gooning Defined: 15:13 – 16:45
• Cell Phone Nostalgia: 26:09 – 28:34
• Chores and Hustles: 29:31 – 34:53
• Friendship & Advice: 40:03 – 42:23
• Podcast Awards/Podcast History: 47:01 – 51:00
• Queens of a Certain Age: 58:00 – 59:20
• Charlie Hides/Blackface Discussion: 59:57 – 61:27

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Episode Tone & Dynamic

The chemistry between Bob and Monét is infectious—playful roastings, genuine respect, self-deprecating humor, and surprisingly deep takes on identity. Inside jokes and past anecdotes are peppered throughout, making it welcoming for familiar listeners yet engaging for new ones.

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Final Note

The episode delivers classic Sibling Rivalry: sharp wit, candid backstage tales, and insightful commentary on queer life, drag, and pop culture. Whether debating "gooning," reliving childhood hustles, or giving each other grief over panty mishaps, Bob and Monét remain as hilarious and real as ever.

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For fans craving more, the episode promises further ridiculousness and shade in the next installment.

Transcript

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my name is Bob the Drag Queen

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and I'm Monet x Change.

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And this is sibling rivalry. On this week's episode, Monet discovers what gooning is.

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We talk about my panties and we

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find out what made Monae say this.

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What new information do you think you could have offered me that I don't know. And we find out what made Bob the Drag Queen say this.

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Yeah, I think you squirt or you don't squirt.

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Pull your wig down. Wig.

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Here's my pitch. Who got a wig?

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You pull your wig down.

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This is an age appropriate hairline.

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The wig is in the back of your head.

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It's an age appropriate hairline.

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Okay, well, keep it. You know, I know it's not a little further back.

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Pull your hair. Pull your wig for the bat.

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Let's talk about before the surgery. Where was that? Where's yours appropriate?

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Where's yours?

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The other bald nigger.

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Oh my God.

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Look at you. Scared Jacob on that one. Jacob did a double dick. Enough about what you and Jacob doing the bedroom. According to the people on Twitter, what are you seconds of the podcast?

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And what do you do in the bedroom?

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What do you pray? We pray. So I want to try a new segment I called Sibling Segway Rent where I. I text to eat a different topic.

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I don't have my phone.

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Okay, well, I can just. I can just show you.

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Hey, Google. No. Hey, Google. Where's my Google Pixel?

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Within the first 15 minutes of the episode, you need to transition to talking about this topic that I told me. Let's get boss form. You say your thing. Okay, so you have 15 minutes. In the first 15 minutes of the episode, I'm going to give you a topic and you have to seamlessly transition the conversation to that topic without your co host figuring it out. Okay, and you're going to tell us when the 15 minutes or is there a timer? Yeah, I'm going to start the time. I'm texting you Monet. That's your topic.

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And then Bob, seamless transition. You know who is crazy talented? Andrew Barrett Cox.

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Gene did that song. There you go. Okay. You got your topics? Yes, Timer.

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Maybe we'll go.

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Do you know what I want to do? I want to go to the. To the. To the AVN Awards. The straight one.

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The avn. I don't even know what that is. Audio Visual Network Awards.

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I don't know, but they're. They're porn.

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Oh, porn awards.

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But they're called the av. I don't know what AVN stands for, though.

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Adult video.

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Do you know the Adult Visionary Awards.

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N. What does the N stand for?

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The visionary.

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I think the Adult Video Network Awards is what I think Avian stands for, if I had to guess.

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Okay.

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I mean, I've done some stuff with browsers.

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Have you? Really? Like a scene.

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I did a browsers roast a couple years ago. Maybe, like, geez, eight years ago. And it was a. It was comedians and porn stars all roasting together.

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How were the porn stars?

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You know, they were not particularly funny, but their sets were written for them. And I met this. This porn actor named Bonnie Rotten. She's the one that stuck out in my mind. Bonnie Rotten. Bunny. Bunny. Like a bunny rabbit.

[A]

But why are you saying Bonnie?

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Because I was accent. Oh, Like, I saw. Like, I saw a little bunny.

[A]

Yeah. No, before you said, like, Bonnie and

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Clyde, but then I realized that you thought I was saying Bonnie. Because Bonnie is a name, but I'm saying bunny.

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Yeah, Bunny.

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Like a bunny rabbit. Yeah.

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How would you say if you were not trying to do it?

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It was like a little bunny rabbit. Yeah. But anyway, she was pretty. Like, nutty. Interesting. And then she taught me a lot about squirting.

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Oh. Which is some. It's some.

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She said it's mostly pee. She goes. Cause she's known for her squirting.

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Got it.

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And she goes, when I squirt, it is. I am just pissing on people.

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How far does Bunny go when she's pissing? Like, when she's. No squirting.

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I haven't watched her content, but she's known for squirting. I didn't do any research, to be honest, but Bunny Rotten is known for squirting. And she's like, I just chug a lot of water. Chug a lot of water. Like, I just drink all water. So it's like. It has no scent, and it's, like, pretty clear.

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So if you're not a water girly, you can. You can squirt. And it'd be like. So like, pee. Like yellow. Yellow pee.

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Well, I'm not sure what I think Bonnie because she's asked to squirt on demand. She's like, I gotta get my. I gotta get it up there.

[A]

You know what I mean? So anyone with a vagina, if they drink a lot of water, they can squirt too. Because it seems like what I. It seems like what I've seen, you know, the discourse on Twitter and stuff. People talk about squirting and different podcasts, whatever. It seems like you can't pick or choose your squirtation. It just happens.

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Yeah, I think you squirt or you don't squirt.

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Okay. But if you are a squirter, the more water you drink, the likely it is you would squirt and it'd be the thing.

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I don't know.

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I mean, do you make your people. You hooked up with vanilla.

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I hooked up with squirters.

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And do you enjoy that or do you not like it?

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It is cool. It is what it is. Yeah, it's nice. It feels affirming. It's like, wow, I did a really good job here. It's like, wow, I really turned the game.

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Okay, cool.

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I really turned the party there. You know what I mean?

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Squirting.

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So do you want to present there? Do you want to get into pornography?

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No. I don't know. Get into pornography.

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Why not?

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I'm not interested in.

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You're basically posting on your. On your.

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Yeah, that's different than having a business selling my body. Like posting a thirst trap here and there is different than being a porn star. I'm not interested in being a porn star.

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How's what you're doing different than porn?

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Cuz I am not having sex on camera. That's.

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That's porn. Not all porn stars have sex on camera.

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Yeah, but that's the pornography I'm talking about having go to the Avian Awards, I'm assuming. I think they're all video people doing like porn.

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Because most, most onlyfans people are doing solo content.

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Yeah, but sometimes a lot of it's video. Like all the solo content I see. Onlyfans are people are guys masturbating.

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We said having sex on camera. Master break. Not having sex.

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I mean, okay. Diddling myself on camera. Diddling myself or fucking someone else or someone fucking me. Not interested.

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Got it.

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I mean, I could start onlyfans and me just showing like basically posting the thirst trap as I do, but I think that seems boring and I'm like not interested in that either.

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I firmly believe that you should not create the kind of content you don't

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want to watch, right? No, I don't agree with that.

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I really. I feel like if you're making content you wouldn't watch. I can tell that you would never watch this. I can tell you're not into it. And I mean sometimes I can't tell because some people are really good actors.

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Yeah. What to say.

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But I'm just like if you. I don't want to consume something. I mean me personally, I don't make content. I wouldn't watch. And I'm like. I just. I don't know, something about it lacks a lot of it. It's like you're doing. So it's just for money.

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Yeah. I mean you have. I think that you have a lot of gay for pay actors. Guys who, who they don't. They don't like dick, they don't like booty holes. But they'll do it on camera to make money and they, they.

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Straight guys do watch porn. Gay porn, straight guy. A lot of straight guys watch gay porn.

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A lot of using. A lot of straight guys watch gay porn. How do you know this?

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Well, the, the statistics prove it. The number one search.

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We can't see a screen by the way.

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The number one search porn in the world, queer porn in general. The number one search porn in the world is I want to say trans porn. Like trans women in pornography. And then I want to say number two is lesbian porn. I think. And then also for example, I think that there's a statistic out there or something. I don't know the numbers exactly, but like a lot of. A lot of lesbians watch gay porn.

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Okay, but go back to Jacob. Can you see if you can find out some breakdown on this? Like the number one types of porn watch so gay. So straight guys are watching gay porn for. To get aroused.

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I mean what else you want to porn for techniques.

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So the straight guy watching gay porn, a straight guy watching gay porn, is he gay? Like if you are getting off. If you're getting aroused and getting off from gay porn, are you straight?

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I mean, you know, my hot take is there are no straight people. Straight people don't exist. Oh my hot take is that CIS people do not exist and straight people do not exist.

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CIS people do not exist.

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They don't exist.

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So like you're saying from birth, once you choose a thing like how everyone's

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on the gender spectrum and no one's on either end completely. No one is completely man, no one's completely woman and no one's completely straight. No one's completely gay. I think A lot of us are really close to one end, but I don't think anyone. The number one porn. Oh, he had it for a second, so. Oh, okay.

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Yeah. This is not anything close to what you said.

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Wait, so the number one is hentai. Hentai is the top porn. Hentai, then milf, then penne. What's panet?

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Penne is like pasta.

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I think that. Isn't that Filipino.

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Filipino isn't that.

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That's pinoy.

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Or pinoy.

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Unless pena is like.

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No, no, Pinoy is for men and penne is for women. Oh.

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Lesbian, anal, big ass, Latina.

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Trans is all the way at the bottom. Roberta. Trans is literally.

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There was some. There was some stat out there. I'm not. I'm not making it up. There's some stat about. About people who search porn and who. Or I think what it was was the number one viewer of Transporn was

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that, I believe, 100% the number one viewer, straight guys.

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And I think I saw something. I might, again, I might be wrong. That the number one viewer of gay porn was. I can't remember. I can't remember. Or the number one search amongst lesbians is gay porn or something I can't fully remember. But Femboy is. Femboy is pretty high up there.

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And it's up 15 spots from last year.

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Ooh.

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Well, you know, femboys are hot. Do you know what I. What I love about. I've had a podcast. Jennifer Welch, the blonde lady who's always good at gathering girl, is she's on this whole thing about how, like, these, like. I forget the verbiage she used is so funny about these, like, secret. These secret. At all the Republican conventions and the whatever the number like Death Grinder be crashing and a lot of these, like, people like Lindsey Graham and the one with Mike. Whatever his name is. Anyway. No, that they all like Pence. Not Mike Pence. The one who is the speaker of the House right now for the Republic.

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Schumer.

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No, he's the minority.

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Chuck. That's Chuck.

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That's Chuck Schumer. Who is Mike Johnson. Mike Johnson. That all these other secrets.

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He's like a basketball player.

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I mean, exactly. You think of Michael Jordan.

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Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson.

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Yeah, that they all like these secretly gay dudes and that's why, like, Griner be crashing at these conventions and they're all like, having these secret hookups. Cause they're all in the closet. That's why they want to make so much legislation. So much anti queer legislation. No one's straight, so you think no one in the world is straight. No one is straight and no one is gay.

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No one's gay.

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And we're all on the gender spectrum.

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We are all non binary and we are all pansexual.

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I mean, it's basically like a RuPaul's thing. We're all born naked and the rest is drag. That's basically what he's saying.

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That's not what that is.

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Well, he's saying that when you're born, like, you're choosing a thing, you're choosing a frock to put on. Like, you're choosing a costume of gender, you're choosing the costume of identity, you're choosing a costume of sexuality. That's what, that's what I think.

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That's what Paul is saying.

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So what is.

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I think you're born naked and the clothes you're putting on, the. The outfits that you're wearing, that is your version of drag. But it's not a. But I think he's actually talking about the things you put on your body. The way you do your hair, the way you do your makeup is all some expression. That's your drag. How you want to present yourself to the world to show them who you are. But I don't think. I don't think what RuPaul is saying is about. Is about who you are. It's about what you present. That's what I got from it.

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Interesting. That's not. I. I got the. I got the other side of it. I think what I get from what RuPaul's saying, because, because we all, We've. We've heard him say it in terms of what you said. Like, like how you, your. How you're expressing yourself with your clothes you put on. But I think it's also how you're expressing yourself internally. Like, how. What gender you are. Cause I think big picture, I think. And again, I am maybe doing a lot of color. Huh? Color, probably doing a lot of whatever. But I think big picture Ru understands, like, gender and identity. He's been in these, in this game for fucking four decades. No, six decades. He's fucking 63, 65 years old.

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He's not been in drag since he was 5.

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I'm talking about on the world.

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In the world.

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In the world for the 50 for 60 plus years. And RuPaul. So I get. What I get from it is that he's talking big picture. Like all the things that you like, your gender expression, your sexuality, like, all that stuff is your drag is what I get from that he also explains.

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He's like, when you put on your business suit, that's drag. Whenever I hear him talk about it also. Anyway, speaking of side notes, award shows, I'm going to the TikTok Awards. You going to the TikTok Awards?

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I'm going to. And I don't know which flesh is going drag or not. I kind of want to go into drag to, like, be cute and do a moment, but. But I don't know. I'm on the fence. I don't know.

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I gotta be honest, going places in drag just isn't my cup of tea.

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Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. For this one, I feel like I'll have fun.

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I do not have fun. I've only voted for one person. Two people on the ticket.

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Awards.

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I know for sure. One is Astro Alexandra. She teaches about space stuff, and I think it is so fucking she. I learned a lot about the James Webb telescope and the Hubble telescope and just so much about space from her. And I didn't vote.

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What do you vote?

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The voting's closed.

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Okay. Are you nominated?

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No.

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Yeah, I didn't. I didn't vote.

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That's why I. But also, my. My thing is, like, space is so, you know, you hear me going about space.

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It's vast.

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And, you know, also the ocean is completely unexplored as well.

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This transition is so.

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This.

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This.

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This is not a transition. The ocean is unexplored because the way he's jarring. The ocean is completely unexplored.

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Yeah, so what?

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First of all, I did my transition, like three minutes ago.

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You didn't even see it.

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What?

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What's going on?

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I already did my transition, like three minutes when you didn't even clock it.

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But don't. The thing is, you had to do at the 15 minute mark, so you broke the rules.

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I thought you said before 15 minutes.

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No, no, before 15 minutes.

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Yeah.

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You weren't listening. Oh, I thought it was like. Like we're going to transition that into the topic.

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I did mine three minutes ago. You already missed it. I did so many that you didn't catch it. And I did that one so you wouldn't catch one that actually did.

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What was the one you did?

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This doesn't matter.

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Boy, please.

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Sibling transitionary. Oh, Segway.

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Segway. Anyway, yeah, I thought it was at the 15 minute mark. Like, we're doing it to the topic.

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You don't listen to Jacob when he's speaking. We were talking about the other day, by the way, and we want to bring it up to you.

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Well, tell me about it.

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Well, I feel like Jacob speaks sometimes and you just interpret how you want to interpret it instead of how he meant it.

[A]

That sucks.

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Do you want to talk to Jake about that?

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We could talk off camera.

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You had a party this weekend and you didn't invite us.

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Correct.

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So what's up with that?

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Well, you know, just me and my friends were just. We just wanted to have a party. And we didn't want any, like, you know, polycules or people from Australia. We didn't want any of that kind of stuff at the party.

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Well, make sure we're not invited to the wedding, too.

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For sure.

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Cause I'm busy that day.

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Well, apparently a lot of things happened. Godoy farted on someone. Somebody else was gooning in the corner. Like, it's just gooning.

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That's what I was like, what, as Taylor gooning.

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Gooning. Which maybe I don't understand what the word gooning means.

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What do you think gooning is?

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Gooning is, like, drinking too much and, like, acting silly.

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What in the boomer is going on?

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How am I a boomer?

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Gooning is when you masturbate for so long that you lose your mind and you start making these, like, crazy faces.

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Jacob, look, that is not what gooning is.

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That's absolutely.

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Girl, you're gonna be so.

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Oh, my God.

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Can you. And no. No, I don't.

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Yeah, because you're not sure. I don't think you're right about this. I don't think you're right about this. Gooning.

[A]

Wait, it has to do with masturbation.

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Gooning is when you're.

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Jacob.

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Jesus Christ. These are recording. Is when you're edging for so long that you have lost your mind and you can't think straight. And your brain is just like. You have, like a one track mind. Like, all you can think about is the sensation you're feeling and. And you're like.

[A]

Close your eyes, exhale, Feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today. Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh, they're so fast. And breathe.

[B]

Oh, sorry.

[A]

I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste. Visit 1-800contacts.com today to save on your first order. 1-800-contacts. Have you ever gooned before?

[B]

You know, I don't edge.

[A]

I don't edge either.

[B]

I like to. When I'm with someone who likes to edge, that's always great. But I don't edge.

[A]

Okay, so you like to edge someone. You like being the edger or you don't like being the edgy?

[B]

Yeah. Cause if I edge too many times, it's gone. Like a third time, it's gone.

[A]

It is.

[B]

I'll never get it back. You'll be here all night.

[A]

Well, that's because it's taking to. They're taking you on. They're taking you too close to the edge.

[B]

No, I don't. I know. Because also the thing is, like, it also sometimes, like if you edge too far and then you try to pull back but you've gone too far. Yeah. Then. Then you just get a little leak.

[A]

Yeah, a little leak.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I don't enjoy edging either. Edging is not my thing, I will say. I mean, when I was younger, when I had more time in the day, when I had a whole day of nothing to do, I would edge myself. Like, I would like, masturbate over the course of an hour and I'm like, geez, I just had. I just had nothing to do.

[B]

Well, I pretty much exclusive with my partners. I pretty much exclusively have sex at night. Like, there is. There is no, there's not a lot of day fucking going on.

[A]

Oh, and then there's a period of time we were morning fuckers a lot.

[B]

No, really, like at the end of the night, once you're. Once you have showered and you've laid in bed and you've done your skincare and you put your hair products in. End of day. Completely end of day.

[A]

Jacob.

[B]

Dustin, have you seen mama feet? First of all, I want to be clear. We've cleared this up. I chewed you in the way because

[A]

you were putting on. Jacob lives with you. So, Jacob, in this room, Jacob, you're screaming. And I will scream. That's how I talk. You're not going to police my voice.

[B]

I will police your voice too.

[A]

You won't. Jacob has seen you wake up.

[B]

I mean, Jacob has never seen me wake up. We don't sleep in the same bed.

[A]

You and Jacob slept in the same bed for a very long time. This is only about a year.

[B]

But I always wake up before him. Every single time.

[A]

Jacob, is that true? That's not true. Thank you 100%.

[B]

But one of us is lying.

[A]

Jacob has seen you wake up at least a thousand times. Jacob has the most experiences seeing you wake up. I think Jacob is a good person to Judge how you wake up in the morning. Did you beat me in that competition for sure.

[B]

What does he know? What does this fucking guy know?

[A]

Also I said this on the podcast before. I used to wake you up at your home in. Not often. At least like once a month. I would wake you up at your home in Harlem and while you lived

[B]

over west side, whatever. And then I lived in Washington Heights. Up, I would live below. I lived. But I never lived in. I never lived in Harlem. So was it in Washington Heights or was it over west side? Which one was it? Cuz it wasn't out in Harlem.

[A]

Hey Bob, I've seen you wake up several times too. So you're not going to gaslight me after. My experience is you waking up.

[B]

I have footage of me waking up and clearing you. Clearing you.

[A]

You can tell Bob was just waking. Oh yeah. People in the last current events are. They're like Bob was. You could tell Bob just woke up.

[B]

What one.

[A]

When you were in Houston, I did

[B]

not just wake up. That was not true. I did not just wake up. I was tired, but I did not just wake up though.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

But I was tired. That was very. Clicks. I. I did not know those. I was. I was Robert Turner. I did not know that was happening today.

[A]

Oh really?

[B]

I did not know that was happening that day. I was like. I got a call from Jacob. I was just laying in bed looking at tick tocks or something and then I got a call from Jacob. Jake was like, will we have it in three minutes? I was like, what? I was like, oh my God. So then I like ran over to my computer and like set it up in the corner of this hotel and was that in.

[A]

That wasn't in Houston. And it was in Houston. In Houston. I know you scratch it better than you do. That wasn't Houston.

[B]

You know my schedule by the me.

[A]

Yeah, you have. You. You have a full day of shooting something on Friday.

[B]

I know that with you.

[A]

Okay. I didn't say it wasn't without. I'm just saying. I know.

[B]

What am I doing after this?

[A]

What?

[B]

What am I doing after this?

[A]

After this? Today you have a. You have a meeting.

[B]

I've already done my meetings.

[A]

No, you have one more with me. You have a meeting together.

[B]

So what do you think my topic was? What do you think my. What do you think my seguery was?

[A]

I think your topic was supposed to be about space.

[B]

Cleared. Honey, it was not about space.

[A]

What was it?

[B]

It was about the ocean and the unexplored depths of the ocean that's why I threw you so many fucking twists and turns. You didn't even know what's coming. Honey, gather. Did you even do yours? You didn't even do yours. I don't think when I did hers.

[A]

No, she did. I did mine.

[B]

You did yours?

[A]

I did mine.

[B]

Monet's was gooning. It was obviously gooning. That's what it was. No.

[A]

Cause you didn't think I did.

[B]

It was gooning.

[A]

You literally said. I didn't say.

[B]

I just ded.

[A]

I deduced My. My. I think we can. We could. Yes. You guessed mine. I didn't guess yours. But I think the footage is to show that my segue is better. Jacob, if you had to judge whose segue is better, I'm impartial. I think we should let the comments. But I clocked yours. Okay, well, let's let the comments decide.

[B]

Let's ask the audience. I can't believe you still haven't seen that clip.

[A]

No. What is it from?

[B]

It's at ihop, I believe, or Denny's or some restaurant. And then this guy tells his waiter that he does not. Can you pull it up, Jacob? And this guy says that he didn't like his food. And the waiter was. She was like, well, it looks like you ate the whole thing. And then he's filming her. And then she turns her plate to the camera and goes, well, let's ask the audience.

[A]

That sounds hilarious.

[B]

No, it's so fucking funny. In fact, listen, y', all, we will be right back with more Silver Ivory right after this break.

[A]

That's it. We don't take breaks at 15 minutes.

[B]

You do a 15 minute break. No, we don't. We talked about this for the third

[A]

time that we don't take a break at 15 minutes.

[B]

Well, I think we should do a 15 minute break because that can be. That can be the official.

[A]

No, they will still do a thing where we don't need to say we're taking a break. This whole entire plate has been eaten, sir. No, not unless you would have gotten us at the very beginning and said that you didn't like your meal.

[B]

I could have replaced it for you.

[A]

So I gotta pay for that? Yeah, you ate the whole entire thing, sir. There's not even.

[B]

Like, I got.

[A]

So she telling me I got.

[B]

I mean, Let me ask the audience. That's good. Yeah.

[A]

They're still gonna do the transition, but we don't need to say, let's take a break.

[B]

I want to say let's take a break. Why? When did we all come to this conclusion.

[A]

We were.

[B]

We weren't gonna take breaks because we're

[A]

not taking a break. It's literally just.

[B]

I think it could be our break for the patrons, the non patrons. I think we should do the break.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

Why are we calling Jay about the break?

[A]

About the break.

[B]

Oh, Jay. I think we should do the break in 15 minutes.

[A]

We don't need to do it. He still puts a transition in there. We don't need to say to take a break.

[B]

I like the break. Jay, what do you think?

[A]

Do you like the break?

[B]

Tell me.

[A]

It's on the podcast.

[B]

You're on the podcast, by the way. Oh, okay.

[A]

I mean, it doesn't really matter.

[B]

I'll take. That's a vote for me. That's a vote on myself.

[A]

No, that's not how that works. We have an impartial. Impartial. We have won once.

[B]

I will say I like the break.

[A]

For transitioning into the topic.

[B]

Thank you, Jay.

[A]

That I do like.

[B]

Thank you, Jay. You're an angel. Always an angel.

[A]

And Jacob doesn't want it. Jacob don't want it. So now what?

[B]

And this is why I'm Jay's favorite drag queen and will always be. And then after me, it's Dallas Dubois. And then after Dallas Dubois, it's Keja car. Then after Keeja, car is you.

[A]

First of all, it is definitely not Keisha car. What does it say?

[B]

We're on the podcast, bitch.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

All right, I gotta go. Bye.

[A]

Oh, God. Sorry, Drama. I didn't know he didn't like his car.

[B]

I didn't know that girl.

[A]

Jack Keezia, they have a long history. Girl, Keeja. I didn't know. Jay.

[B]

I didn't know.

[A]

I love Keej. I love Jay.

[B]

Ok, so Whitney Houston. I didn't know.

[A]

A couple episodes ago, we asked Bob.

[B]

It's things.

[A]

No one listens to their voicemails anymore. And we put a poll on the podcast. 68% of you, an overwhelming majority, still listen to their voicemails, which is crazy. That's not crazy.

[B]

Why do we even. You can just send a voice note.

[A]

But that's a voice note via text from someone that you don't know is very informal. Like, let's say, like, let's say I'm calling you a bunch of cars, extending warranty. I'll leave you. Send you a voice note.

[B]

No, I get text. People I don't know.

[A]

Those are friends, though. They're not random.

[B]

I get texts from people. Hi, this is Bernie Sanders. Text me.

[A]

That's scam.

[B]

No, Bernie Sanders. Those are real tags. I am once again, also, Jacob got caught in a lie. Jacob has sent me a voicemail.

[A]

Here it is.

[B]

Did you listen to the other day, Jacob? This is Jacob's voicemail to me, sent on December 4, 2021. Oh, wait, hold on.

[A]

This is the one day you had your voicemail empty. How did you have space? Not being able to leave messages, which is wild. So you so used to. Here it is. Sorry, I. I left this on because I'm so used to. I'm so used to. You're not being able to leave messages. This is wild. I didn't know I could leave messages. That's so exciting. That's wild. I love you, work bitch.

[B]

Wait, that's my one voicemail.

[A]

Your voicemail has been full since I met you. How is there space on this one? Random thing? That's why I left it. And I was gagged because it let me record. And I was like, oh, well, now I need to say something.

[B]

The last voicemail I got was in 2022. But how.

[A]

Your voicemail has been spill ever since I've known you. Did you clear it one day?

[B]

No, I never cleared it up.

[A]

So how was there space?

[B]

I got. Don't answer.

[A]

I'm gonna let it go to voicemail.

[B]

Okay. I'm gonna decline it.

[A]

Your call has been forwarded to an automated voice messaging system. Caldwell. Caldwell is not available. The mailbox is full.

[B]

I cannot accept.

[A]

14 years it's been that.

[B]

It's not. I got a message in 2022. That's not 14 years. How did that happen? I don't know, girl. I don't work at fucking Verizon.

[A]

You sell Verizon?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm so blindly loyal to AT&T. I don't know why I'm still with those hoes. I should leave them, but bitch, it's about to be a fucking monopoly. Because Thing is buying AT and T is about to buy this thing that's gonna let them take Verizon. It's about to be AT and T. Because who acquired Sprint? One of them acquired Sprint. Verizon acquired Sprint a few years ago and T Mobile acquired something else. So there's been those big three, right? AT&T, Singular was acquired by AT&T.

[B]

So they. Because Singular introduced rollover minutes, right?

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Remember?

[A]

You remember nights and weekends?

[B]

Yeah. People couldn't call you. I was trying to explain to my nephew that back in the day, people could not call you before 8 o'. Clock.

[A]

No, 9 o'. Clock.

[B]

It depends on where you were, I guess. Or who you had.

[A]

So was it nine by your.

[B]

Okay, it was based on. No, it was in the time zone. But different. Different companies had different nights. Time starts.

[A]

Got it. So for all you gen zers and gen alphas and maybe gen. If you're a gen beta listening to this podcast, that is really. Anyway, so back how we used to work was the cell phone companies gave you nights and weekend minutes. So you had nights.

[B]

No, not night. Weekend minutes. Nights and weekends were free. During the day, you had minutes.

[A]

No. Well, it changed some companies. At first, it was nights and weekend minutes. Then when it started getting more and more competitive, they were like, oh, you know what? On nights and weekends, you can talk for free. During the day, you have this amount of time. That's what it became.

[B]

Yeah, that was the big thing. So if someone calls you during the

[A]

day, you had, like, I'll talk to you later. Bye.

[B]

Literally, you had, like, 500 minutes. For the whole week, for the whole month, you had, like, 500 minutes. You could talk during the day.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then nights and weekends, you could talk for free.

[A]

That's crazy, girl. We were living in.

[B]

What was that?

[A]

I mean, we didn't know any better.

[B]

It was the beginnings of the. When did you. How old were you when you got your first cell phone?

[A]

I got my first cell phone when I was in sixth grade, I think.

[B]

Oh, my God. Jesus Christ.

[A]

Old or young?

[B]

Keep talking. I'll tell you mine.

[A]

And it was the. It was first when Virgin Mobile did the little. They had the little phones you could buy at the store, and I think it was the Kyocera little phone. And I had that for, like, a year. And then I transitioned to the Sidekick, and I got a. Sidekick was my second phone.

[B]

I got my first cell phone when I was 20.

[A]

Okay, if you were 20, that means I was 16, which means I was in 10th grade. So about five, I was in college.

[B]

I got my first cell phone.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

I didn't have a cell phone in high school.

[A]

I mean, but y' all live in, like, a little town. Like, I was.

[B]

I lived in Atlanta, Georgia, which is not a little town.

[A]

It's not. But I was. I was. I was a kid.

[B]

What little town are you talking about?

[A]

I was a kid taking the trains and buses in New York. My fellow. Like, my family was like, we need to get your phone. Just in case anything happens, we need to, like, you need to call us. So that's why I had a phone. My phone was for emergency users, which I think A lot of kids, when you first go to school, the phone is for emergency your parents are wearing. Well, in our generation, your parents weren't giving you a phone for social media or whatever it was to make calls for emergencies when you needed to.

[B]

You didn't have anything to do with like.

[A]

No, no. Because when I got my Sidekick, I'm pretty sure I paid for myself from shoveling and doing chores and stuff. Like I raised for the home.

[B]

You got paid to do chores in your own home?

[A]

For things that weren't like my usual things. Right. My usual things were cleaning the room, the bathroom and the basement. If I did things outside of that, like, if, like to bring the garbage out and stuff like that, I would get like little extra.

[B]

You got paid to take the garbage out?

[A]

A little extra. Like a little $5 here and there.

[B]

Who's paying you?

[A]

My aunt.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

I don't think that's crazy.

[B]

I used to mow my yard when I was nine.

[A]

What else did you do?

[B]

I cleaned the whole house.

[A]

You cleaned the whole house by yourself?

[B]

No, we all cleaned the house.

[A]

Okay, so it wasn't just you. Clear it up.

[B]

I didn't say I'm not.

[A]

You said I cleaned the house. That tells us that you do your own house.

[B]

I, I would, I would clean. I would clean. I would mow. First of all, my brother couldn't mow the grass because he' he was allergic to grass.

[A]

Is he still.

[B]

I don't know. I haven't asked him.

[A]

Cause you know, you can agro allergies

[B]

and you can develop them too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So just. I mowed the grass by myself.

[A]

How big we talking?

[B]

I was. How big was my yard?

[A]

Your age. And I was nine years old. And how big was the yard?

[B]

And I think that the front and the backyard was maybe half an acre. Maybe.

[A]

Bitch, talk to us in fucking feet. It'll be a half an acre. Nigga, I don't know how big a fucking acre is.

[B]

Well, okay, that's. Let's, let's, let's, let's bring our voices down. No, the drive. Okay. My front yard, the half. The front yard was a two car garage. A two. Listen, okay. A two car parking way. I mean driveway. And then the. So you could probably, you could probably. Realistically, you could fit two cars side by side. And then right next to it was the exact same amount of space, and

[A]

that's half an acre.

[B]

And then outside, a backyard that was. You could probably fit four cars comfortably in five to six if you packed them all in. Side by side.

[A]

Five cars in the back and four cars in the front.

[B]

Yes. And that's.

[A]

And you would mow that?

[B]

Yes. Bitch. You were taking out garbage and getting money for it.

[A]

Yeah, to the garbage chute. No, no, the garbage chute, nigga.

[B]

We had a house

[A]

that had to go all the way from the back, especially in the freezing cold.

[B]

And how big was the yard?

[A]

Our yard? I mean, our yard was probably three cars side by side in the front. Like three cars and three. So six cars, like back to back.

[B]

Are you about to try to insinuate what? That you taking the garbage around your house and you not even have a big yard?

[A]

Is that's not a big yard?

[B]

First of all, New Yorkers don't have big yards. No one lives in New York City has a big yard. I've never seen a big yard in New York City.

[A]

It's relatively.

[B]

You don't have big yards. Yeah. Relative to America, y' all don't have big yards. I've. I have never seen a big yard in New York City.

[A]

You know, Jay's. Jay's parents in. In thing they got a big ass yard.

[B]

I've seen. I've seen in place where New York City, where the house goes to the sidewalk. You, you off the sidewalk. You're basically at the front door. Y' all do not have big yards in New York City. And you know this. And you try to tell me that that little journey on your garbage, you think that's sim. That's comparable to me mowing the whole

[A]

yard when you're 10 years old.

[B]

I was nine. So I was younger than you.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I was operating heavy machine.

[A]

You also said you were 6 foot 12 by the time you were. You were not. You were nine years old.

[B]

That was in seventh grade. I was six two in seventh grade. This is third grade.

[A]

Third grade is nine is not. It's not.

[B]

That's how old I was in third grade.

[A]

That seems so dangerous have a third. A third grader mowing a yard.

[B]

So we're judging my mom's parents?

[A]

I'm not judging your mom's parents. I'm just saying.

[B]

Crazy. My dead mother's parenting. Judging my dead mother's parenting is crazy.

[A]

Tie your shoelace.

[B]

Tie it for me, please.

[A]

Please.

[B]

I would tie yours. I think I have tied your shoelace.

[A]

You have not.

[B]

I have. And I've put you in some strappy shoes too.

[A]

When you put me in strappy shoes.

[B]

But you always wear strappy shoes. I've done your shoes for you.

[A]

You have not. I haven't swirled that. You just put me in shoes. For what reason? When Ty and Patty were either both there.

[B]

You haven't always had Ty and Patty. Okay.

[A]

And I went to wear strappy shoes before Ty and Patty went around.

[B]

I've never seen a strappy shoe before.

[A]

I don't think that's true.

[B]

I absolutely have. But anyway, to be clear, me mowing the yard is definitely more work than you taking out the trash.

[A]

Okay. I'm talking about in general. I did a lot of housework.

[B]

I just don't think you should get paid for it. I mean, it's fierce that you did. I would have gagged. I would have tried to pitch it to my mom for sure.

[A]

It's about how. It's about them teaching me, like, if you want to earn money, we're not just gonna give you money. Like, you have to do chores to earn your keep. And I was like, that's fierce. That's. That's fine to me. I think. I think that's one of my value lesson in money. Like, and like, how I could. Like, I can't just. Because I had friends who would just get allowance money. Like, they just got an allowance. Right?

[B]

I never got. I never got an allowance.

[A]

Just existing. You got $20 a week or whatever it was. I had to earn my allowance or, or get paid for working around the house.

[B]

So I never got an allowance and I just had to do work around the house. It was. It was not negotiable. There was no, There was no negotiating. What you could negotiate is what you're cleaning, but you. But you were not negotiating any. Getting any money for it.

[A]

So how would you make money before you could work?

[B]

I mowed yards. I. I cut other people's. I cut neighborhoods in the. In the, in the. I cut grass in the neighborhood when I lived in Alabama and when I got to Atlanta, I sold candy. I was a candy lady.

[A]

You sold candy? And how would you. How would you earn money? How did you earn money? So you fund the money. You've got cutting grass. You bought candy that you'd sell?

[B]

No, there's years between. So I asked my mother for a 100 loan. She lent me the money and then I paid her back.

[A]

And how did this candy business do?

[B]

Pretty well. I was. I was a really successful candy lady.

[A]

What type of candies did you sell?

[B]

Straw head sour. Like straw sour punch straws. I love those Snickers Kit Kats. Honey buns.

[A]

Were you giving full bars or little bite size?

[B]

Full bars. I would go to the farmer's market where they had the full ones. I would also get honey buns. And that was in, like, other Skittles. M M's got it. Yeah. And I. So I took. We took the TV out of the entertainment center and in your home? In my home, the entertainment center. Entertainment center.

[A]

Do you know what entertainment entertainment center? It just sounds very grand. Nigga, just say living room. Entertainment center.

[B]

No. Okay. An entertainment center is not the living room.

[A]

I know. It's a thing that has a radio and then all they want things. I get it.

[B]

So you want me to call that the living room.

[A]

It just sounds very fancy.

[B]

What do you call yours? You have entertainment center at your home right now?

[A]

No. It's not all one thing.

[B]

No, that area, that thing where you

[A]

put all of your entertainment stuff, it's called a credenza. It's not an entertainment center.

[B]

Well, ours was an entertainment center. So you think credenza sounds less fancy than entertainment center?

[A]

Yes, the entertainment center.

[B]

You think a credenza.

[A]

That sounds grand.

[B]

Well, mine was. It was tall, two stories. No, it was one story. The entertainment center was. It fit in one room? It was in the living room.

[A]

It had several. It had a compartment about it.

[B]

Well, it had a space down below for the stereo and the. For, like, the radio with the CD player and stuff. And then the DVD player was right above that. The TV used to be above that, but then the TV got put in my brother's room or my room.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because I needed it for the candy store.

[A]

You needed the.

[B]

I needed it for the candy store. The entertainment center. I need it for the candy store.

[A]

So your mom lets you convert your. You know, let's talk about this, and we'll talk about it in a second.

[B]

Oh, we have ad breaks now.

[A]

Let's see. We have an ad break now.

[B]

Hey, if you do not like ad breaks, you don't ever have to live like this. You can go over to sibling rivalry on Patreon. Go to Patreon, type in Sibling rivalry podcast, and you'll never have to hear me say this ever again. All right, here comes some ads.

[A]

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He's Jacob used to be.

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Not Jacob alive.

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Yeah, yeah, your little podcast.

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Okay, so you're Ms. Martha Caldwell.

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Jacob. I wish we had a camera on Jacob.

[A]

Right?

[B]

This is my present. Can we both do a present? Jacob right now?

[A]

Jacob's like, so Ms. Martha Cohen will let you take the family TV out of the living room entertainment center to make. To convert the entertainment center into your candy store.

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Yes.

[A]

And how you mean. What do you mean? Like, you would hang all the. Like, how do you.

[B]

So I had all the boxes in there. I had a menu that I printed up. I was actually really proficient in Word and Microsoft art and Microsoft Word and PowerPoint presentations when I was younger. Like, really proficient. I used to actually do them for. I used to make PowerPoints for professionals, actually.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

At my mom's job and stuff, they would hire me to do them and then I would just put all my candy in there and like a nice display. I also, for a short time, had. I called my company Tight Bites. Like tight. We say tight back then. Like this. This outfit is tight.

[A]

I know. I said tight, too.

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I don't know what y' all had up north. I don't know what y' all had up there. So I also did it on the weekend. I would do it in barbershop. At a barbershop. I would set up my candy store at the barbershop. So that's how I made my money.

[A]

So your setup was mobile?

[B]

Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't like a. I mean, it was just a bunch of boxes and a menu.

[A]

You have like a cart or something?

[B]

No, I had a table. So the. I think I either brought my own table. The Barbershop had a table, and I would set up at the table, and I would just sit there all week, all day, one day on the weekend and sell candy to everyone.

[A]

And then. So how you transport all your things to the barbershop?

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My mom would drive me.

[A]

So would you pay for gas?

[B]

No. Wow. No.

[A]

So you don't think you should pay your fair share of transporting it over long.

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She didn't ask for it. Wow. My mom. My mom was also very overprotective. So for a long time, if we had a job, my mother was at the job. My mom, when she was working at Morris Brown, she was the head of Cyberlab. My brother got a job at Taco Bell, and she got a job at Taco Bell too.

[A]

So it could be like, make sure he's all right.

[B]

And she worked every shift he worked.

[A]

That's so sweet.

[B]

Yep. Every shift Justin worked, my mother works.

[A]

I would hate that, though. Oh, Justin. I'm like, mom, please.

[B]

So she would finish grabbing Where's Brown? Go over to Taco Bell, Georgia Dome or the Taco Bell near the Georgia Dome or something like that. And then they would work the egg because my mom got him the job because her friend was the manager, and she was like, well, if you get Justin a job, you need to get me a job.

[A]

I would hate that.

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And Justin and my mom work all the same shifts.

[A]

Did Justin hate that or did he love it?

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I mean, I don't know.

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I never asked him. I would have hated that. I think when I was younger, I. I really. Which I think it showed up later in my life too. I love independence. I am fiercely independent. I like doing things on my own. So the fact that my mom would have been there with me, I would have been like, mom, please.

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Well, I know that I would have loved it.

[A]

I mean, I love hanging out with my mom.

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When I was a kid, I was. I was. When I was a boy. So I'm like, I want my mom to be everywhere. But also, this is what Monet is saying is very true. So people always ask me, did I give Monet advice on the traders? And the answer is no, because Monet does not want advice from me on anything. Monat is that one of which is not a bad thing? I think that Monetary likes to know that she did it by herself and that she likes to know that she did it without my help or anything.

[A]

That's not true. I have gotten your advice on things before. We talk about stuff all the time. It just didn't come up in terms of Advice for the show also. It was also the thing because, I mean, it's not like Drag Race, where you're scared to. There's a little more, like, all celebrities, like, the thing of, like, no one's supposed to know you're going on the show. Obviously, we spoke about it.

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I was also trying to figure. Here's my theory is. Here's my theory, I think that you asked me for advice on things that I haven't, like, directly done. Like, for example, so when it goes. Going to the Trader, I think if you gone to Traders before me, you would be like, let's talk about a plan. But I think that because I did Traders first, you were like, I need to know that I'm doing this on my own.

[A]

No, the real tea is I honestly don't think there's any perspective that you could have offered me that I. That I needed. Because everything that you've done on Traders, we've talked about. Right. We talked about your. Your time on the show. You and I talk on. On podcast privately about, like, how you played the game. How you played the game. And, like, from the Castle, you call me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we've talked about, like, all that stuff. So, like, there's not like a.

[B]

Just because I don't remember getting a call from.

[A]

There's not a.

[B]

Who did you call?

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I spoke to Patty. It was about. Really. About work and Andy.

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Oh.

[A]

Anyway, first of all, and I will say the number.

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They offered you that because you had the opportunity to call.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

You had. They did give you an opportunity to call people, and you didn't choose to call.

[A]

No, they called the thing.

[B]

Yeah, but they gave you the opportunity to call people, and I wasn't on them.

[A]

Okay. No, I didn't call anyone. They. Anyway, so in terms of traitors, it wasn't like you and I spoke for hours on podcasts and solo, just in the car, about how you did the show and how you played the game. I've listened to countless interviews about you, talking about your time, how you would play the game. So there wasn't really like a different.

[B]

You listen to some interviews.

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I listened to a lot of your content, Bob.

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You almost had all.

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Pretty much, maybe, I would say maybe 90% of your content I listened to. So there was like, what new information do you think you could have offered me that? I don't know.

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Who knows? I just don't think it's anything new. Who knows?

[A]

Like, when I went to Drag Race, I got a lot of. I got a lot. I got a Lot of advice from you.

[B]

That was a different time, though. We were very different back then.

[A]

How? Why is it different?

[B]

Our relationship has changed over time. That's. Every relationship changes over time.

[A]

Yeah, but I think in terms of

[B]

Drag Race, I think you've gotten more into. I think you've gotten more. You've become more known on your own and less as my friend as the time goes on. Because back then I was like. I was like the new girl on Drag Race, and you went on just two years after me.

[A]

So was it. Yeah, I won't say one year. It was two years.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, yeah, so that's what I think. And also. And I think the game of Traitors is just unique in that, whereas Drag Race, it really is about your talents and how you're showing up and how you're presenting yourself on the show. And like, you know, not to say the winning traders. There's no talent, but it literally is.

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Ephron found dead. A lot of it is Dolores found dead. Dolores Catania found dead.

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Is the last name Catania.

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Can you check it? I think so.

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I always want to say Umbridge, but that's a girl from Harry Potter.

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Dolores. Real Housewives. Yeah. Dolores Katanya.

[A]

That's a great last name. Katanya.

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Anyway, I love Dolores. She's so sweet.

[A]

So with Traitors, a lot of it is like a big part of the game is chance.

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Yes.

[A]

It's how you perceive and how people are perceiving you. But a lot of it is chance. Right.

[B]

Do you think people who won just won by chance?

[A]

No, I did not say. I did not say. That's the only fact to sell off.

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You said the only reason why Dylan Efron once. Because he's lucky.

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Nailed it.

[B]

Dylan Efron is a very lucky person.

[A]

Why?

[B]

He is just like. He's so lucky. He's just lucky.

[A]

Lucky. Can you want to give us anything? Like what?

[B]

Okay, first of all, he was born into a famous family. Let's just start with that. He's born with a famous brother. I don't think he was born. He was born and then his brother became famous. So then he has that boost. Right. And then he's just genetically lucky. He's in great shape. He doesn't seem to have any ailments, whatever, whatsoever.

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We don't know that. Dylan. Dylan might be struggling with some crazy shit that we don't know about.

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Might be, but it certainly doesn't seem to be.

[A]

Also, he looks like he works out a lot to get what he.

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Yeah, but a lot of that's also genetics. Some people. Some people can't work out and look the way the Dylan looks. Then also, he got cast on the biggest. I mean, a lot of my life is luck, too. I can acknowledge a lot. I tell folks I am a very lucky person. I'm like, I don't believe in God, but if there is a God, I'm one of her favorites, easily, hands down. The universe loves me. And Dylan is one of those folks. The universe loves him. He just. He's on Dance with the Stars. He's popping off there. He's got all these like. He fucking beat me on the fucking. He beat me on the fucking after midnight.

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Oh, yeah. Did he win after midnight?

[B]

Yeah, because we were neck and neck and then we were the final two, and then it came down to who could fit the most PEZ in a PEZ dispenser.

[A]

Well, girl, he's straight. Straight guys love PEZ dispensers. I mean, it's 20% of their fucking personality.

[B]

I mean, I grew up liking PEZ dispensers enough, and I think. I don't even think he's old enough to have ever used a fucking PEZ dispenser.

[A]

Is he younger than you?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

How old is Dylan Lefron?

[B]

Yeah, Dylan's in his 40s.

[A]

I don't know, 33. He's younger than me. Wow, he's so cute.

[B]

He looks like the guy from the new season.

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From the new Zeason.

[B]

The new season of Traitors.

[A]

I was like, what's the new season?

[B]

No, he looks like the gay football player. He looks like Colton. Colton looks like Dylan Efron on oh, girl.

[A]

No, Colton is blonde. Dylan is not.

[B]

Dylan's not blonde.

[A]

No, he's brunette. Colton Underwood. Bob, these people are not the same.

[B]

I think they look very similar. That looks like Dylan Efron. That's like Dylan Efron on Tess House.

[A]

You're. Is Dylan. Is Dylan queer? No. At all? Like, not even a little bit?

[B]

No, he's super. He's Ally Ally Val. Speak Valentina. He got invited to the Glad Awards. I didn't even get invited. And I hosted them.

[A]

And we've won.

[B]

I have four sitting over there. I got four GLAD Awards and I hosted this bitch. I didn't even get invited last year. I said, oh, oh,

[A]

Remember that year that we campaigned for our GLAD Award and we won it? Yeah.

[B]

That was the last time we'll ever outdo fucking last year, honestly.

[A]

Take them off the list. Take them off the list.

[B]

Yeah, they shouldn't be allowed to. To be.

[A]

Can I just say.

[B]

Go ahead. No, they should move up to the Golden Globes.

[A]

Well, they just announced. They just announced a category at a very big award show for podcasts. Have you seen this?

[B]

The Golden Globes.

[A]

Is it Golden Globes?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Like, there's a podcast, like, award.

[B]

The nominees are already out.

[A]

It's a. Call Her Daddy, Amy Poehler. Amy Poehler's won.

[B]

Can we look up the nominees?

[A]

That's, like, fierce. Honestly, podcasting is becoming. I mean, or. Or do we make a separate award show for.

[B]

For.

[A]

Because the world of podcasting, since we've started podcasting, we weren't even at the beginning of it. I would say we're like, the middle. Podcasting popped off in, like, 20. Like, nine to 2009, I would say

[B]

My first podcast that I ever did was with Frosty Flakes way back in the day. I did my first podcast in, like, 2010. I've been podcasting since, like, 2010.

[A]

Yeah, podcasting, like, started. And correct me if I'm wrong. So I'm like, actually, Monet, I believe it's around 2008, 2009, when podcasting, like, started. No, before that.

[B]

No, I would say the first podcast was probably around 2001.

[A]

No, at the millennium. At the turn of the century.

[B]

Maybe in the. Maybe in the late 90s.

[A]

Jake, can you please wait? Wait, actually, before we do that. So the Golden Globe nominees for the category is Best Podcast at the Golden Globes. And it's Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard. Call Her Daddy with Alex Cooper. Good. Hang with Amy Poehler. The Mel Robbins podcast with Mel Robbins. Smartless. And up first.

[B]

Oh, up first for the win. That's my number one podcast of the year. I. That podcast is a great way to start your day. I mean, it's got some depressing stuff in some time, but. God, I love that podcast. I never listened to it every month. Well, Monday through Friday and the Sunday Report. So six days a week, I listen to this podcast.

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I listen to the View.

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I will. I. I hate to miss an up first. And if I can hit it, and if I have time, although my. My right work usually isn't long enough. I'd love to hit a double whammy up first. Swinging around. Consider this.

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Got it.

[B]

Up first has to win.

[A]

I like the Daily. I'm surprised the Daily's not up there.

[B]

First has to win. Has to.

[A]

No girl call her Daddy Alex Cooper. Call her Daddy is a girl. I mean, I think this year, Amy Poehler, which Amy Poehler fucking this podcast is. Please. I fucking hate that joke Matter good hang is probably what, maybe like a year and a half old Ava Poehler like, has really turned the part in this podcast. It's crazy.

[B]

I feel like in my mind though, if this is gonna be for the big. The biggest, big dogs that you can't be like, whenever I see at the fucking Queerties or at the GLAAD Awards, Beyonce in a fucking category with Selena Esteez. Come on.

[A]

That is crazy. But I think queerty is the only person place that does that. Queerty will literally have best authors. It's like fucking Jesus, the Bible.

[B]

It's like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John versus Bob the Drag Queen with Harriet Tubman live in content.

[A]

It's like, girl. Yeah, Queerty does do that. That shit is Corey.

[B]

It's like, you want me to compete against Beyonce? Come on, guys.

[A]

You're so right. Qwerty does.

[B]

Dude, I forgot.

[A]

At every. Every day I'm there, I'm watching the thing. I'm like, this is crazy.

[B]

Like. Like the anthem anthems this year or the Queerty Awards this year. Were Alan coming? Megan the Stallion. Nava. Nava Ma. I'm not sure who that is. But if Nava. If Nymphia win is up against Chapel and Billy Eilish, Cynthia Revo. So NY is competing against Chapel, Ron, Cynthia Revo, Billy Eilish and Megan the Stallion. That's not. Not fair. That's not a fair fight.

[A]

TV performance. Yeah, it's great. Musical breakout star. You have Lux Noir. London versus. This is actually. These are normal people. Who's Katie got?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

From Muna.

[A]

I love Katie.

[B]

Oh, Muno. The. The. The.

[A]

The lesbian.

[B]

What's that song?

[A]

Silk. Chiffon.

[B]

Yeah, Silks. Silk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, they.

[A]

They do. They do.

[B]

They do. They get wild in there.

[A]

Yeah. Know.

[B]

It's too much. It's too much

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podcast for this quote.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

2000.

[B]

2003.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

2003. Yeah.

[A]

Where were we? What. What were you doing?

[B]

I was a junior in high school.

[A]

Yeah, we were too young.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I wonder what the first podcast. It probably sounded crazy. And you know what I discovered recently? Well, that went up in the first year Andy and I were dating. Wait, he did a podcast when he was in college with one of his roommates and he hated. I like, scrubbed these and I found his fucking podcast. He got it deleted. I wanted to play for you this

[B]

way you download, like, when I find your old embarrassing videos that you don't like, I download them. We have A whole Google Drive.

[A]

Because y' all are freaks. And y' all are.

[B]

Well, you should have done any.

[A]

Y' all are demented.

[B]

We have your teaching video. You try to get rid of it. I still have it.

[A]

I would give. I would have Brett Green fucking shut y' all shit down. Try it. Okay, watch.

[B]

Try it now.

[A]

I'm busy. I'm at work.

[B]

You think Brett Green can stop me from downloading something you put up on the Internet?

[A]

Help me out with something. The other day, he really. I was like, wow. Do you really? You are worth every gold.

[B]

If you guys want me to post the videos of Monet, I'll make one big compilation of all Monet's deleted videos, and I'll post them over on. No, you're not on the Silver Patreon.

[A]

No, you're not. You don't have my consent to do that.

[B]

I'm not asking your consent.

[A]

You don't have my consent to do that.

[B]

I'm not asking.

[A]

You're not posting it.

[B]

What are you gonna do?

[A]

You're not posting it.

[B]

What are you gonna do?

[A]

The warrior.

[B]

Oh, yeah, we have the warrior goddess makeup tutorial. I saw you try to get rid of it, but I have it now.

[A]

What?

[B]

If you guys want my next makeup tutorial to be Monet's warrior goddess makeup tutorial, just comment below and I'll make sure that's the next one on my page.

[A]

If you do, you have to do the poof, too. You have to do everything.

[B]

Listen, you know, I try to follow them as close as I can. As close as I can. I try. I try my best.

[A]

I don't think. I don't think I put the poof in the tutorial, though. But you have to do the executed look with the who.

[B]

I can figure out how you do the.

[A]

I don't think you can.

[B]

I think that your technique.

[A]

I don't think you can. Poofs were legendary.

[B]

You're a very talented woman. Your wigging is not great.

[A]

Those poofs were legendary. I made a name for myself in New York with those poofs.

[B]

I told the story on the pod before, but I have to bring it back because people don't know I mentioned this today. Me and Monet were just filming something the other day, and she did something that was so just visually bad. It was just a bad.

[A]

What did I do?

[B]

It was just a bad piece of art that she made, and it ended up being a mistake. She fucked up what she was making, and then it just got really hideous. And then Monet Was like, no, I like it. I like it, actually.

[A]

Well, I'm not doing a bit. I genuinely love that thing and I will use it for what I made, for what it ended up becoming. It was not the original goal, I know, but what it ended up being, I was like, this is great. So what?

[B]

So this. I was trying to tell this a lady who works here, her name is Sid. I said, sid, this is who Monet is. Monet will convince herself that she loves it, even if she knows it's bad. So years ago, Monet was backstage at Industry, and Monet was wearing a pair of panties under her leotard, which you don't normally do because they can slide out. You could show. But Monet, I don't know, she's had on her panties. But Monet pulled up her leotard without pulling up her panties. But she didn't. I guess she didn't check herself in the mirror and she just went on stage. So what's happening is Monet's leotard is up here, but the panties are down here. They're sticking out at the sides. And then I said, monet, your panties are sticking out. Like, we can see your panties in. In the. There were black panties. Black panties. They were. It was like a sparkly leotard. Like some. It was like a very cool fabric leotard and just a pair of black panties. And then I said, oh, Monet, your panties are showing. When she goes. I said, your panties are shaking down. And then instead of being like, oh, Monet goes, I meant to do that. Monet goes, and not only that, I like it. I like how it looks. I did this on purpose and I like how it looked. And I said, monet, girl, you could

[A]

just say it was an.

[B]

Money goes, no, I love it. I love this look. I did this on purpose and I want to look like this.

[A]

And so that was a vid I did that day now.

[B]

And then Monet did it for, like, another truth. Monet is true.

[A]

A week. I was walking over panties.

[B]

At least two more shows, which would be about a week at that time, because you weren't doing that many shows at the time. So Monet was walking around with her panties pulled down. So first of all, Monet walked around the whole bar that night with her panties pulled down. Like, she kept being like, do you guys like my new look? And she was like calling a attention to it, like, yeah. And people are like, ah, so. And I swear I'm not making this up for like another week of show, which, like, Two or three more shows, Monet would pull her pa and I think she would. When I would text her, say, I'm coming, I think you would put the panties on and pull them down on purpose.

[A]

So we're.

[B]

Bob, I would agree.

[A]

The thing happened I.

[B]

The panties were.

[A]

I caught my panties down and I was like, oh, yeah, like, doing a bit. I was like, yeah, I like this. This is. I want to do.

[B]

And I was, yeah.

[A]

But the whereabout the story is askew is about time I did it for the rest of the week. I did not do the rest of the week.

[B]

She did. I caught you at another gig and I was like, why this bitch still got her fucking panties down? Because that's the kind of shit this bitch does. She's like, no, I love it. I love it. It's great. I meant to do it. And it's. And it's sickening. But also, when they does this with stuff all the time, Monet does this stuff all like. Like. So Monet has a stylist named Taylor who. Y' all hear me go, Taylor. That's Taylor. So Taylor tried to give into Monet to wear socks with loafers.

[A]

No, it was socks with these Gucci sandals. He's like, these, like, sandals.

[B]

And Monet was like, I hate that.

[A]

Okay. No, see, you're ringtail asking here what it was. They're trying to get me to do it on the traders.

[B]

Taylor come in here and Taylor come about. Oh, he gone.

[A]

Is Taylor there?

[B]

He's probably working.

[A]

Oh, no. Yeah. Taylor and Pat were trying to get me to do it on the traitors. I was like, I'm not doing this on the traitors. I was like, this is going to look. I was like, it's not.

[B]

No.

[A]

I was like, I'm not going on TV and wearing this.

[B]

Go into Jacob's mic and tell your. Your, your, your. Your perspective of the socks with this slide.

[A]

Go ahead, Taylor. What happened was. Uhhuh. We suggested that you wear socks with loafers. You said no.

[B]

You hated it.

[A]

You never said anything about no, it was the sandals or not. No, Patty was the sandals. I was the loafer. No, cuz you saw scissors, gave you references, and you were like, mm, mm, that's not me. Cut to cut two. A month later, fully socks of Mary. First of all, what y' all wanted me to do was wear. No. Taylor was trying to get me to wear those goddamn Mary Janes. And you thought showing me a picture of Sza wearing the socks of Mary Janes would convince me.

[B]

And I Said, which you probably would.

[A]

No. And I said. And I said, no, I don't want to do the socks of Mary Janes. And you're like, girl, it'll be cute. I was like, no, I don't want to do that.

[B]

Oh, does that sound true, Taylor? Is Monet saying is the truth.

[A]

I think some details were left out. I think that she would wear Mary Janes and socks, and it would be cute.

[B]

So when I was at this. When I was at the Kendrick Lamar SZA concert, I sent Monet these pictures of SZA wearing these flats, and I could not stand them. I could not. And then Monet was like, they're actually kind of cute.

[A]

They're cute on sza.

[B]

And I was like. And I was like, monet's end up fucking wearing these motherfucking flats.

[A]

No, I can't. First of all, my feet are too wide to wear those Mary Jane ballet flats. Like, my feet are too big for those. If I wore those, it would look insane.

[B]

I like when the pop girlies don't want to wear heels. They wear boots.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I love when they put, like, if you're not going to wear the heels, wear the boots.

[A]

I mean, Beyonce does a little scooty heel. Now, she's also a woman of.

[B]

When do you call a woman of.

[A]

Not this.

[B]

When does a woman become a woman of a certain age?

[A]

No. Of a particular age.

[B]

I think it depends on what she's doing. If you're a stripper, you become a woman of a certain age at like, 40. If you're a teacher, you become a woman of a certain age of like, 60.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If you're a politician, it's like 150.

[A]

If you're a pop star.

[B]

If you're a rue girl, I believe you're a woman of a certain age at like, 37.

[A]

No.

[B]

If you're on the show. No.

[A]

So if a rude girl is over 37 on the show, you're like, she's a woman. If she's a queen.

[B]

No.

[A]

Because drag queens sometimes transcend time. Even Bianca De Rio on her season, she was what, 40?

[B]

I would not say Bianca is not 40.

[A]

How old was Bianca her season?

[B]

Like 30.

[A]

I would not say Bianca was a woman.

[B]

That can't be right. That can't be right.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Bianca's 50 now, so.

[A]

Yeah, so she's probably like 38, 39.

[B]

Jesus Christ. How long ago is this? Bianca was on Drag race.

[A]

She's at 67.

[B]

Bianca was. Bianca's 50.

[A]

It says Bianca was 39.

[B]

When she was 39.

[A]

Yes. I would not call Bianca a queen of a certain age, but I think Charlie almost said Charlie.

[B]

Charlie Hyde is a very certain.

[A]

I almost said Charlie Kerr.

[B]

Kirk. Charlie Kirk was not on Drag Race,

[A]

but Charlie Hides was. And I will call Charlie Hides a woman of a certain age.

[B]

Charlie Hides is. Charlie Hyde's older than Michelle.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

I think Charlie is the only contestant on Drag Race in America that's been older than Michelle.

[A]

So this should. People, we should be nice to her. Maybe she couldn't dance in that song because she's. She's an older. Like, she's.

[B]

I don't think you should be nice. Charlie Hyde's.

[A]

Oh, yeah, she did that Reese's thing you were telling me about, and then

[B]

she did a whole thing with me and Jacob and she's. I. I don't. I don't. I don't. Yeah, she did Laquisha Jones, and then she was trying to come for me and Jacob because we. We met on Grindr, and you guys don't even know how to. I was like, get. Then she DM'd me about it.

[A]

And. Did she apologize?

[B]

No.

[A]

Do you wanna read the DM to us?

[B]

I can read the dm. Is this shady? Yes.

[A]

No, it's not shady.

[B]

She said to me, and she's now probably gonna get another DM at some point.

[A]

Girl. I don't think she's still around, but she still do stuff.

[B]

She's alive.

[A]

Yeah, but I don't think she's around. Like, in the community.

[B]

They got blocked work. Yeah, I've been blocked. Is it Charlie with a Y?

[A]

No, I think it's an I. I don't fucking know.

[B]

I. E. Charlie Hides. Oh, I'm definitely blocked. Oh, my God. I got. Wait, you check.

[A]

I just sent it to you on Instagram, so if you're blocked.

[B]

Oh, there she is. The DM says. I've been informed that you talk about Laquisha Jones on a podcast. I'm willing to discuss the character at any time or forum, public or private, and will be happy to answer any questions you may have. All the best, Charlie. And I did not respond to that. Hey, Bob, I'm not sure if you will see this, but I just wanted to share the following view. You recently tagged one of my posts. The above open letter was originally posted on my Instagram account in 2019. It looks like the posts have been taken down.

[A]

Or maybe they're so old you can't. You can't view them anymore.

[B]

Cannot load him I mean, maybe, but, yeah, it was. It was me about talking about Laquisha Jones, her blackface character.

[A]

How did you find this character? You just stumbled on it, that it

[B]

just came from there. And people was like, did you know that Charlie Hy had the blackface character she used to do named Liquia Jones?

[A]

Got it.

[B]

And then she had to rebrand her as a wigger.

[A]

Charlie.

[B]

What?

[A]

Trying to rewind Lisa herself.

[B]

Loquia as a wigger.

[A]

God. So she's a white girl.

[B]

She just stopped painting herself. She just stopped paying herself black. But she was still doing.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

But then. But then it kind of became, like, white trashy. It was very interesting, but I. I did not respond to her text.

[A]

Well, this is the end of the episode. And Charlie Hines, if you want to say something again, you can go on.

[B]

Monet talks.

[A]

Yeah, talk to Monet talks about Laquisha Jones. And you have to dress up as Lucretia Jones to do the episode. Would you really have her to talk about her blackface? Yeah, that'd be great.

[B]

In blackface.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, my God, it would be great.

[B]

Just show up in whiteface and be like, hello.

[A]

Well, you know, that's what Tyra Sanchez or James hates me because I did the Grace Jones whiteface. That started circling again. People were like, ugh. Monet wants to be white so bad. She painted herself in white face. I was like, I can't.

[B]

You have been skin bleaching.

[A]

I mean, I'm saying it's not noticeable.

[B]

All you have to do is take a picture of Monet on Drag Race and put it next to her right now, and you'll notice that she's several shades.

[A]

It's not that noticeable, though. I don't do it that often. People would know.

[B]

I know. Look at your palms. You have white people palms. Put it up here.

[A]

You do this.

[B]

It's just. I remember one day just being so gagged at how white your palms.

[A]

You do this once a year.

[B]

It never not get. Just put it. This is our last shot. Oh, my.

[A]

No, girl, we're the same color.

[B]

Monet, our palms are literally not the same color.

[A]

Like, slightly different.

[B]

Monet, our palms are not the same color. Kane, do these palms look the same color to you?

[A]

Slightly different.

[B]

Yes. Mine is whiter. Mine is darker. All right, bye, everyone.

[A]

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