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Michelle Visage
Hello, everyone. I'm back in Los Angeles, California. I finished my run on Moulin Rouge musical. Go see Megan Thee Stallion playing Ziddler in Moulin Rouge. I saw her performing once with no audience and it was really entertaining. I had so much fun.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are you in such a good mood today to fight the bobbers and the mood allegations?
Michelle Visage
I'm just in a good mood. Can I just be in a good mood? You're trying to ruin it. You're trying to ruin it. Which by the way, is easy for you.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I'm just saying we love when you're in a good mood.
Michelle Visage
I think your light's too bright.
Monet X Change
You look a little.
Michelle Visage
A little ashy. Can you warm it up? Oh, my God.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can't call a black person ashy. That's crazy.
Michelle Visage
There you go. You look dry. Kind of like your vagina. We are reviewing RuPaul's Drag Race Season 18, Episode 13, the Karen's Gone Wild. Is that the name of the episode?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I think that's right.
Jan Sport
The Karen's gone wild.
Bob the Drag Queen
Episode 13, episode 13 of season 18. Which means we have three more. And it looks like, I mean, the previous. For the next episode looks like we're going to a top three. Because there's another challenge, like a regular episode next week, which is like kind of wild.
Michelle Visage
I love a top three. Top three is better than top top anything. More than, I mean, whatever. It is what it is.
Bob the Drag Queen
But when it's more than three in
Michelle Visage
the top, I think it's a little while.
Jay
Really?
Michelle Visage
I think so. I think, I think it should. I think it should be a top three. That's kind of how we started out as a Top three.
Bob the Drag Queen
And we. A lot of. No, it's gonna be top twos. It's gonna be top twos, and then it changed to top three on a Fifi 4.
Jan Sport
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Michelle Visage
I mean, since we've done those, like, live audience finales, it seems like. In my opinion, that top three works best. In my opinion.
Monet X Change
Why?
Bob the Drag Queen
Why is the top three work best?
Jan Sport
I'm. I'm genuinely curious. I'm not trying to be.
Michelle Visage
Well, but you can focus on each girl more. You don't have to worry about too much. You know, it's just. It's just you can really zone in on one person. Also, I want to remind you all that our patrons get to view this, watch us record these live, our patrons at our top tier. And if you would like to join that, then please feel free to join our Patreon.
Bob the Drag Queen
Go to sibling.
Michelle Visage
Go to patreon.com. type in sibling rivalry podcast. Do you mind if we hop into the episode? So Mikey has her. Has secured her. Hey, what's up?
Bob the Drag Queen
You're back home. Hi.
Michelle Visage
I know. I wish you were here now. You're in New York and I'm in la.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. It's not funny how life works.
Michelle Visage
Life do work like that. Life do work like that. We have the same micron. Oh, my God.
Bob the Drag Queen
Twins twinning. Oh, my God. Really quick.
Jan Sport
I. This really hot guy today after.
Michelle Visage
Can you describe him, y'?
Jay
All?
Michelle Visage
By the way, y' all about to keep on his downfall. Describe him. Money's like. Money's like, hot. Whenever I describe my guy. Hi, guy. Hot. What's happening? He's hot.
Bob the Drag Queen
He's hot.
Michelle Visage
Skinny, fat, black, white, Puerto Rican. Like, give me something.
Bob the Drag Queen
He was tall Puerto Rican from Boston. He's. He plays hockey in New York City. I'm like, you play hockey? New York City? And he's like, yeah. I was like, so. He's like. He's like, can I come over to your hotel? I was like, so sure. He's, like, in, like, a rush. I was like, where are you now? He's like, I'm over at the public library. I'm like, why are you the public library? And he's like, cause I'm here for hockey. I was like, you play hockey? Hidden scene. I mean, I don't.
Michelle Visage
You just outed him. Tall, Puerto Rican. Narrows it down. Come on, Connor.
Jay
Corey.
Michelle Visage
No, no.
Bob the Drag Queen
Should we.
Jay
Should we.
Bob the Drag Queen
No. Should we take that out?
Michelle Visage
It's not my business, I'll tell you that. That's great. You didn't have to throw in from Boston. That's crazy tall, Puerto Rican, plays hockey from Boston.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're going to see. We need to edit some of that out. Jay, this is live.
Michelle Visage
We're live.
Jay
We're live streamed.
Monet X Change
We always do this live. Monet.
Bob the Drag Queen
I just think it was crazy until Bob made such a big stink about it.
Michelle Visage
You see, it would have been fine if I said it.
Bob the Drag Queen
No one would. No one would have thought about it.
Michelle Visage
Bob.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, you outed him now you made a whole thing out of it.
Michelle Visage
LMAO definitely outed him. You really meant.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, you know what?
Michelle Visage
Let's move on. I'm reading Jessica Banks says LMAO definitely outed him. I'm reading it.
Monet X Change
Move on.
Jan Sport
Move on.
Bob the Drag Queen
Anyway, so wait, Jimmy said call Puerto
Michelle Visage
Rican from Boston in New York City for hockey. Okay. What's his Social Security number?
Bob the Drag Queen
Can we move on? Okay, the girls come in, and we
Michelle Visage
want to hear more about this heated rivalry you're having. We're not moving on. Honey, what are you doing?
Monet X Change
Would you say like, 5, 11?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God. Anyway, we're moving on. I'm not talking about this anymore or another.
Jan Sport
Anymore.
Bob the Drag Queen
Listen, listen, listen, listen. Linda, listen. Did you hear this? So this little mirror method has a drama. Apparently, the show cut off some of Discord's mirror message. Did you hear about this?
Jan Sport
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
So she wrote her message, whatever it said, and Jacob, can you pull it up? I mean, it's probably. I should have asked it before this, but at the end of it, it said, eat the rich, black lives matter, and something about something else. And the show cut that off, obviously, because we didn't hear about it. You didn't even know she said it.
Michelle Visage
They wiped it.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, like, the show didn't air it. They didn't like. There we go. Okay, so Discord said this. What is generally wrong with y' all in this fandom? So her former message said it ended, eat the Ridge, Black lives matter, and protect trans kids and drag race.
Jan Sport
Cut that part out of her mirror message of the girls reading it.
Michelle Visage
To be fair, she said, though I think it may have been cut out. I didn't zoom in on them. I used to, like, zoom in and try to read the mirror message, but sometimes the handwriting is pretty brutal. Well, Nini read it out loud.
Monet X Change
And they cut off part of the mirror.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, the girl always reads it out loud.
Jan Sport
Whoever reads it out loud, they showed it, though.
Jay
You could see it. And even when Discord left, I think she said, eat the rich or whatever. So, I mean, if they wanted to censor it, they could have cut her saying that, too.
Jan Sport
And they did well.
Michelle Visage
They gonna be gnawing on RuPaul's long ass legs, honey,
Bob the Drag Queen
And eating one of Trixie wigs.
Michelle Visage
So Mikey has her second win. People seem to be just genuinely rooting for Darlene. I think there's a few things. I think there's a little bit of shade. Cause they don't think she's a. She's a threat at all, which is gaggy because she's lasted longer than a lot of these girls.
Bob the Drag Queen
She has. And I will say I'm genuinely shocked. Like, going into the season, I had no. I did not think that Darlene would be here this long. Like, at the beginning of the season, I had. Did you think Darlene would be here this long, girl?
Michelle Visage
That was me and Yvie oddly, like, just from Meet the Queens. I was like, I like this girl. She's charming. But then I was like, no, she's eating. Like, I literally. I literally did not think Yvie oddly. I thought Yvie was gonna be. When I just saw just promo, I was like, yvie's gonna be one of the first out, but I love this girl. Then she just ate everyone and won the whole fucking season.
Bob the Drag Queen
So you think Darwin's gonna win the season?
Michelle Visage
I don't. I still think Mikey's gonna win the season. I don't think Darwin's gonna win with her one win.
Bob the Drag Queen
Um, Evie had one win.
Michelle Visage
Who?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yvie only had one win.
Michelle Visage
Oh, really?
Jan Sport
Yeah.
Michelle Visage
Uh, the girls cannot take Darlene getting good critique. They can't take it. Like, when they were like. And you put these panties over this, and this is what law roach. They can't take it. Darlene is marching to the beat of her own drum, and she is super unique. And I think that, honestly, is something that a lot of the girls are lacking. They don't have a perspective like Darlene has, in my opinion.
Bob the Drag Queen
I agree. I agree. Darlene has a very unique, unique perspective that we haven't seen on Drag Race. I will say, like, even in, like, her makeover and, like, some other stuff she worn, like, now, like, I have a clear idea of who Darlene is. If. If you put all of. If you put Darlene's clothes in a thing without her in it, I would know exactly which one is Darlene's. Which I can't say for a lot
Jan Sport
of the other girls.
Michelle Visage
I agree with you. Except maybe Nini Coco. If it's got those spikes all over and one of her little face genies or her little cap she'd be wearing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jane don't. Like, all this conversation about her being, like, she's saying in her confessional. And as they're all debriefing, she's, like, being the bottom. It's never gonna happen again. And she's saying all the girls have been threatened by her the entire time and obviously know what happens at the end of this episode. It goes to show you can never be too confident on Drag Race. Cause the show will pull the rug from right out under you.
Michelle Visage
Yank it out from underneath you. Yeah. Um, let's hop into this mini challenge. It is. Okay, now, this time, we cannot blame. No one can blame the editing. Because even the girls during the challenge are like, damn, we suck. Everyone's saying they suck. No one can blame the editing. All the girls are like, this is bad. I think this is the first time no one's won a mini challenge. This is the first time RuPaul was like, Y' all are so bad. I'm gonna just pay the crew extra.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. I don't think that's ever happened before.
Michelle Visage
Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think that Mikey and Nene were actually that bad. I don't think they were hilarious. But I thought they were just fine.
Michelle Visage
Maybe the editing saved them. I mean, I will say I like when Jane at the end, when she goes, that's pretty much all they say about me. That was getting a lot of lives. I don't feel like two minutes is really that long to do. Did you do a puppet show?
Jan Sport
No, and I've never done a puppet show.
Michelle Visage
On Drag Race, we did a. We did a puppet show. I don't really get why they're all drink. Why they're all struggling. Cause this is. This is a pretty funny group. Like, they've been pretty funny in the past. They've excelled at a lot of improv challenges. I do not get why they are doing so poorly. And it's pretty brutal. Because RuPaul's like, oh, you like improv ing? Cause you're about to do it again.
Bob the Drag Queen
But also, RuPaul's not helping either. RuPaul. I mean, RuPaul, there's things that RuPaul just like.
Michelle Visage
I mean, how much can you save something that's going poorly?
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, I am a. We.
Monet X Change
We.
Bob the Drag Queen
We talked about this on a podcast a little. I don't know if it was this washery or rivalry. Are you saying when something's not funny, you won't laugh if someone's selling a joke? Even though I don't think it's hilarious or it's not the funniest Joke. I will still give a courtesy.
Michelle Visage
I don't do that. Because it sounds fake. It sounds fake. No.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. But I don't. I don't really go like, I. I engage like, I don't know.
Michelle Visage
Okay. I'm not like, I've heard your fake laugh, and it sounds fake. I've heard your fake laugh, and it sounds fake.
Bob the Drag Queen
What's my fake laugh?
Michelle Visage
You're like,
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't do that.
Michelle Visage
It doesn't sound real. And by the way, the people know. The people who are telling you jokes, they know. They know you don't think what they're doing is funny. They know what you're offering is kindness.
Bob the Drag Queen
They can tell you don't know when I do it to you.
Jan Sport
You've never done it to me.
Michelle Visage
First of all, you never give me. You would. You would never give me anything. I have to take everything I've ever gotten from you. So let's go into the getting ready. So there's no argument. The girls do the improv video. They get to film with RuPaul, and no one argues. Everyone just picks a role, and everyone gets it, and it's not a big deal.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, RuPaul was talking about. Because he was saying that they're gonna do a scene with an iconic guest, and he goes, you know you're gonna be doing this with. You know, he's like, you know, in the past on Drag Race, we've had iconic guests who only need only go by one name. Liza, Lizzo, latoya. I was like, you mean latoya Jackson.
Michelle Visage
But you knew who he meant.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because I know RuPaul loves Latoya. No one just says Latoya. If you say Latoya, bitch. I think Latoya lucky Latoya Jackson.
Michelle Visage
But everyone knew. Everyone knew. RuPaul's talking about Latoya.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, because RuPaul loves Latoya Jackson.
Michelle Visage
RuPaul was obviously doing a bit. But we all knew who RuPaul was talking about, though, so she kind of ate low key.
Jay
Thinking Luckett over Jackson is crazy.
Michelle Visage
I mean, that's.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love the Twiggle. I'm torn in between the two. Cause I really want to be with you. When RuPaul says improv, juicy immediately RuPaul says improv. Grabbing your head on the mention of improv is crazy.
Michelle Visage
Girl, calm down. So what I'm intrigued by is that when they pick their roles. Juicy. And they're talking about what they're gonna do. Shocker. Juicy wants to pay a spicy Latina who. This is unbelievable. Who could have seen this coming. I think that's wise.
Bob the Drag Queen
If you're not. She's not super confident in improv. Cause the last one she didn't do well, but RPDR was improv as well,
Jan Sport
and she did a good job.
Bob the Drag Queen
But anyway, the best one she did
Michelle Visage
was she did the New Jersey. The New Jersey accent. That was the best. That was her best. That was her funniest thing she's done on the show.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. But if you are not confident and you like, I know how to play Latina. Like, that's what. That's.
Jan Sport
That's my bread and butter.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, let me play that role. Like, I'm like, I think that's smart
Jan Sport
for her to do.
Michelle Visage
Yeah. I mean, I'm just. I didn't say it was Badger's head.
Monet X Change
Shocking. Shocker.
Jan Sport
Yeah.
Michelle Visage
By the way, they had to walk through. Rue threw her sister under the bush. Because I think about my sister. I was like, her sitting at home watching, like, what she said. Fuck me for.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love Rozzy, you know? Rozzy loves it.
Jan Sport
She listens to Cinnamon Rob recent times.
Michelle Visage
Well, Rozzy, I'm sorry, that RuPaul.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you like that? Ru?
Michelle Visage
Did you dirty. You go, what did you say fuck me for? You ever seen that clip of 50 Cent?
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
Michelle Visage
There's a clip of some. Someone says something about fuck you to 50 Cent, and he goes, what'd she
Bob the Drag Queen
say fuck me for?
Michelle Visage
It's basically the same as now, why am I in it?
Jan Sport
It's the same thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
50 Cent, aka Curtis Jackson, is such a messy celebrity. He is so messy. He is messy. Every time when he did 50 Cent doing something crazy anyway, or filling in for Drew Barrymore. Oh, yeah, he has done that. I love that they're all working on this stuff. And Darlene is giving Juicy some advice on character choice. And it gives Juicy a light bulb, which I think fuels her to do well in the challenge, which I'm like Darlene helping out the other girls.
Michelle Visage
Shocker. Someone helps Juicy through a challenge. I mean, I'm no shade, but, like, someone helped Juicy get through another challenge. This is unbelievable. Like, is this not. It's just this guy on TikTok, this. This teacher on TikTok who always does that. This is unbelievable. It's. This is kind of her mo. I need help. I'm a spice to Latino who needs help. Also, Juicy's not spicy. What is a non spicy Latin dish? Ceviche. She's not spicy. She a little tangy.
Bob the Drag Queen
She ain't ceviche. Ceviche they use. They use Lemon and onion. I mean, lemon to like to season
Jan Sport
the chicken, to cook the fish a little bit.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I would say maybe a crudo.
Michelle Visage
Lemon is spicy. I don't think crude oil is not spicy. What is a crudo?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, he said tangy.
Michelle Visage
Oh, tang. Is crudo like a flavor profile?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think, but I think, I don't think crude oil is a.
Jan Sport
Is a Latin dish. I think it's.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know what it is.
Michelle Visage
What would Juicy do if no one helped her in the show? Lip sync every week.
Bob the Drag Queen
And that would not be the tea
Jan Sport
because I think we were not over.
Michelle Visage
Yeah, flan. She's not spicy. She's Latina. She's not spicy.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's flan, not flan.
Michelle Visage
Are you that person? Are you, are you at the, at the fucking Olive Garden asking about brisket? You know I am.
Bob the Drag Queen
And Bob, I mean, we literally had. Literally our recent episode of podcast is us speaking Spanish and you were speaking for Spanish. So it's not like you can't do it.
Michelle Visage
What do you call the stuff? The, the. The stuff made of avocados and like lemon? What do you call that?
Bob the Drag Queen
Avocado and lemons?
Michelle Visage
Yes. Avocado, lime. Avocado, lime, onion.
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you call that stuff with tomato in it? Yeah.
Michelle Visage
What do you call it sometimes? What do you call it though?
Bob the Drag Queen
Guacamole.
Michelle Visage
No, you don't. Bitch, I've been with you. You call it guacamole.
Bob the Drag Queen
You call it guacamole. When I'm at Chipotle, I say, can I please have a side of chips and guacamole?
Michelle Visage
Bitch, I've been with you to motherfucking Chipotle. You say, can I get guac? Or you call it guac? You don't go guaca walle.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why? I say why? I normally say guac.
Michelle Visage
You're such a fucking liar, bro. You're such a fucking liar.
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Michelle Visage
Let's get to this challenge.
Bob the Drag Queen
So, Juicy. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Monet X Change
What?
Michelle Visage
What?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, but my other note, I said, oh, RuPaul. When all the girls had the walkthrough with RuPaul, he's talking to all of them, and RuPaul, RuPaul has a walk through. And he said, oh, yeah, you're gonna do good. I'm excited about this. And he looks at Juicy and says, I'm the most concerned about you.
Michelle Visage
Valid.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, God damn.
Michelle Visage
Well, Juicy was concerned about herself, too. They're on the same page.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I would want to know that, but that would throw me. That would send me into, well, fuck my drag, I guess. I guess I might as well home now.
Michelle Visage
I mean, but she's fighting, you know, she's. I will say, I do. I admire that she's willing to ask for help when she needs it. She is not ashamed to be like, I need help. Help me, help me.
Jan Sport
Yeah, I agree.
Bob the Drag Queen
I agree.
Michelle Visage
So Juicy is the parking spot Karen, she actually has some great lines. I love the line about her kids are in salsa making class, not salsa dancing class.
Bob the Drag Queen
That was funny.
Jay
That's funny.
Jan Sport
Funny. Yeah.
Michelle Visage
Her crawling over the pole, that was funny to me.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I. I think that she could have went further, though. Like, I feel like in all of them, I think they all could have stand to go on a little far. But I do think that Juicy did
Jan Sport
a really good job.
Bob the Drag Queen
And just overall, honestly, this is like, a really fun challenge to do. Like, this is like a really. This is like a really fun challenge. And yeah, I think that her. I'm surprised all of them didn't do something with hitting. Cause that's what Karens always do. Karen's always in every Karen video. Like, 75% of them, they always. There's some hitting going on. Either they're hitting someone or someone's hitting them. So I think it was smart that she went to hitting. Cause that is like a typical trope in any Karen video.
Michelle Visage
I want to ask you if this is a good drag name for a drag king. Phil in the blank.
Bob the Drag Queen
Fill in the blank. I like it. I don't know if it's my favorite. Like Philip Nathaniel DeBlanc.
Michelle Visage
So he's Phil in the blank. My name is Nathaniel DeBlanc.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why Nathaniel? I don't get Nathaniel.
Michelle Visage
This is Phil. Middle Michigan Phil in DeBlanc. Maybe it's the fill in de blanc.
Jan Sport
So it's like, I like that better. I like that better.
Michelle Visage
Grab. Anyone wanted that drag name, Feel free to Grab it.
Bob the Drag Queen
When then. Then we get into Darlene. And girl, did you see RuPaul did your dance move?
Commercial Narrator
What?
Bob the Drag Queen
He was dancing. What he did. That's DJ K. And I was like, not RuPaul doing the bob. No, RuPaul doing the bob. Doing the RuPaul doing RuPaul.
Jan Sport
Yeah.
Michelle Visage
You don't play about that move. You don't play about that move.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think that Darlene did a good job, but she was not a Karen.
Michelle Visage
I didn't go over all things for Juicy. Juicy. I also enjoyed Juicy. The only one who cried, which I feel like is kind of a trademark of a Karen, is to start crying if things. If things are going against you when Rue gets out of the car. And then she also. When she stops crying to go, good luck in jail, and then goes back into crying, I thought was very, very funny.
Jan Sport
Yeah, I thought it was good, too.
Bob the Drag Queen
I thought she did a good job with Darlene. I think that Darlene was like. Darlene was funny, but she was not a Karen. Darlene was doing, like, a. Like, just a regular acting scene that she got in her class, and she was with her scene partner. Like, there wasn't no Karen in it. She was just being funny and doing biscuits with RuPaul. It was missing the Karen for me.
Michelle Visage
I mean, kind of. I think that Karens don't always have to be so vapid. I think that she was trying to steal and use her privilege as a white woman to get out of this thing. Kind of like how I will get there. Mikey kind of did a similar thing. Like, Mikey didn't go full off. She had a little bit of spice, a little bit of using her whiteness to get out of stuff. I think she actually did a pretty decent job. I thought she was really funny. I like how she pretends to know the owner. That's a great, caring move. She knows the owner of the store. And when she came back and said, can I have the chips? That. That was the only genuine laugh I had watching. I mean, there were some. I was like, this is funny. But the time that I actually laughed out loud was when she came back in the store and said, can I have the chips?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I guess. I don't.
Jan Sport
I don't.
Bob the Drag Queen
That was my experience. I was like, yeah, this is funny, but I'm not getting Karen at all.
Jan Sport
It just seems like a funny improv
Bob the Drag Queen
improv scene that would. That, like. Like, she didn't fit the brief, which I think is something that I've been
Jan Sport
seeing a lot with Darlene. Even when, like, Smash, not Snatch Game.
Bob the Drag Queen
The Roast, where Darlene kind of didn't roast. She just was doing, like, a fucking tight five of her, like, her weirdness. I'm like, I think it seems to be a common trend with her that she doesn't always do the challenge.
Jan Sport
Kind of like doing her version of
Bob the Drag Queen
the challenge, which is a little irksome to me.
Michelle Visage
Chania Martin said, I think they miss how nasty Karens are, for real. They just insult and degrade and belittle people, and none of them really got that.
Monet X Change
To me.
Michelle Visage
I. I think they were scared to go there with Ru.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, especially in the piranhas of Drag Race, y'. All. In these acting challenges RuPaul wants you to go over. Everything is bigger, over the top. Crazy. Darlene was just, like, doing jokes
Michelle Visage
and. Okay, so let's go on. You want to go on to Mikey?
Bob the Drag Queen
Mikey motherfucking Meeks. See, I thought Mikey was good. I thought Mikey had dynamics. Mikey started, like Karen.
Jan Sport
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Traffic stopped. Karen and Mikey, like, had dynamics in hers, which I think made her excel. Like hers, her story had a clear beginning, middle, and end. And she started. And she did different things.
Jan Sport
Right.
Bob the Drag Queen
She first started off, like, antagonizing RuPaul, then it was seducing him, and then, like, the running away I thought was funny. So I think that's what set her apart, is that her. Karen had a journey. It wasn't just, like, we'll talk about
Jan Sport
a little bit later.
Bob the Drag Queen
Nini Koko. That was just on 10. Nina Coco hit it full throttle. She was going in like, Mikey gave, like, a bit of morph story, and
Jan Sport
I think that's what edged her over everyone else.
Michelle Visage
She also had actual jokes. This is. This is her coma. And then she fell asleep. The leaning back in the chair was great physical comedy. The challenging RuPaul, I mean, she. I think. I honestly, genuinely think that Mikey did the best. Her trying to flirt was great. She used different tactics to get what she wanted. Her character really explored all the ways to get what she wants, and I genuinely think this was the best one. Easy.
Jan Sport
Yeah, I think so, too. I agree. I. I agree that it was.
Michelle Visage
Let's go into Jane, who is a Ms. Flight Karen. And first of all, she's not thinking out of the box, which is crazy for Jane.
Jan Sport
She's not. What?
Michelle Visage
She's not thinking out of the box. Like, she's not. I feel like Jane is more creative than this.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what I mean? Yeah. And it was so funny that they said the 250 pound line, because I wrote that, too.
Jan Sport
And while watching, I was, I was,
Bob the Drag Queen
I, I was like, what?
Jan Sport
Jane had no reaction to the, to
Bob the Drag Queen
the rude 250 pound line. I thought that was easy one.
Michelle Visage
She went, oh. Or something. She did have a reaction.
Bob the Drag Queen
Sorry, a joke.
Jan Sport
Yeah, a joke.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also when she said I'm flying to Palm Springs for a girls weekend, she said like little things like that, like I'm flying to Palm Springs for a girls weekend with my guys or the gays or something to like, she just like was just being really servant. Which is very weird for Jane because Jane is very funny. We've seen Jane be extremely funny. Like so it was so weird that this was maybe it's just being that long. The competition was getting to her. It just seems so out of like
Jan Sport
the norm for her.
Michelle Visage
I wish she'd have been like, I'm flying to Palm Springs. You would know about that. It's funny in Palm Springs where all the old gays go, you should know about that. You know what I mean? Like they're really. She missed a lot of opportunities and RuPaul was really throwing her some softballs. Like some just real underhand, easy to hit softballs. And she didn't hit any of them.
Jan Sport
Yeah, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Really did at the beginning.
Michelle Visage
Narwhal by nature pointed out in the beginning she did go like, I don't like those Karen videos. They make me uncomfortable. So maybe she doesn't understand the, how those videos work cuz she hasn't watched them.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's no way you are a fucking Gen Z or millennial in, in 2026. And you don't, you, you don't even if you don't watch them, you understand the concept of, of Karen. Karen is part of our lexicon. I think Karen is in the dictionary now. We all know what a Karen is.
Michelle Visage
So off. So she doesn't get a full. Like I, I know what the housewives are, but I don't watch much actually. I've seen enough clips. There are things that I know what they are, but I'm not super familiar with it. Maybe she's, I mean, she said she didn't watch the video, so I don't know.
Jan Sport
I don't buy it.
Bob the Drag Queen
If I, if, if, if you've never seen a housewife, I think you would buy just public and like social media. You would know how to play a
Jay
housewife in the workthrough. When Ru asked the girls what she what am I looking for? When Jane gave their answer, Rue was like, that's exactly it. So even though she doesn't watch It. She knew what to do.
Michelle Visage
Well, apparently, Jane and RuPaul are aligned because RuPaul asked for whatever Jane said. RuPaul was like, that's the thing. But she didn't deliver in the challenge. That I know. She did not give what needed to be gave in the challenge. Let's go on to Nene Coco.
Bob the Drag Queen
Nene Coco.
Michelle Visage
I mean, I wish that she would have. Like, I can't believe she let RuPaul beat her to the homo joke. Like, I'm on the hoa, the homeowners association. You're on the hoa, the homos of America. Like, I think that she. She let RuPaul beat her to too many jokes, and she would no end.
Bob the Drag Queen
RuPaul said, oh, you mean the homo thing? And she was like, no. And she said the thing. I was like, she was literally knowing. You didn't get to catch that.
Michelle Visage
Yeah. I mean, I knew that for whatever reason, what she was doing was not working.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, she missed such a good line. Like, again, to play KTU RuPaul,
Jan Sport
when
Bob the Drag Queen
she was taking out the decorations, she was like. She was just like, no decorations, no decorations, no decorations. She should have went to mommy dearest. No decorations ever. Like, shit like that.
Michelle Visage
Shania just pointed out. I wish someone embodied that woman who said, my kids are in the car listening to kids bop.
Bob the Drag Queen
Kidz bop.
Jay
Yeah.
Michelle Visage
Which I'm interested. Like, no one chose a specific Karen to embody or to evoke. No one chose, like, a specific Karen to, like, lean into.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Again, I think the girls were not taking it further. Like, I think a classic line is what you could have did was at RuPaul's house, try to. Try to go into his house and act like it was her house and a kid. Like, something like that. Also, she should have, like, threw a line about the bitch. Well, maybe because she white, she's like, bitch, this ain't the Brewster Project. You can't be. You can't be.
Michelle Visage
It's a direct line to RuPaul. You know what I mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. Like, shit like that. I'm like, girl, like, just. But, yeah, it wasn't great.
Michelle Visage
So let's go on to the makeup. They're doing their makeup the next day, and Darlene's feeling good about her performance. Juicy's feeling good about her performance. I find it funny that Juicy says that she took a risk by playing a Hispanic Karen. I'm like, girl, how would that say that's what you've chosen almost every time? How is that a risk?
Bob the Drag Queen
When else did she choose someone Hispanic.
Michelle Visage
There have been times where she kept being like. Or if she was, like, resting on her lawyer, like, she didn't do it. But for Snatch Game, her go to before she did Jojo, her go to was to be a spicy Latina. But then because she was like, I'm gonna do this thing instead of playing Jojo Siwa. So even though she doesn't always do it, I feel like each time, whether she did or not, she has mentioned at least, I think I'm gonna be a spicy Latina. With the exception of the New Jersey thing, because the character was already chosen.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, maybe she was. She didn't want to be, like, offensive to her community.
Jan Sport
And she.
Bob the Drag Queen
Which I think is.
Jan Sport
Some people may be a little.
Bob the Drag Queen
That is Kenya.
Jan Sport
Kenya pleaser.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're like, why does she always have to play a fat black lady?
Michelle Visage
I didn't say why she had to
Bob the Drag Queen
play a fat black lady.
Michelle Visage
No matter what she does, she's going to be fat and black because it's who she is. It's not that she is black and fat. It's that she always plays into, like, I want some Kentucky Fried Chicken. It's. It's too much.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I think so.
Jan Sport
I think that's what Juicy is maybe afraid of. She's afraid of, like, doing something that may be offensive to some. Some Latinx people watching, which, sorry, Latinx people know. Latino people watching. I've been schooled on that 19 times
Michelle Visage
on the Internet forever. A lot of people in the Hispanic and Latino community are very split. Some folks are like, I like Latinx. I don't know what to say. I can't. We can't. You can't please everybody.
Jan Sport
I have not.
Michelle Visage
I have not seen it across the board. I don't like this. I've seen a lot of people who are Hispanic who are like, I like Latinx, so I don't know. I'm not Latino. I can't tell you what to say. But it seems like whichever one, somebody gonna have a feeling about it. Um, that being said, Darlene gave Juicy that dress. You worth a challenge. What did these girls bring for themselves? Y' all making fun of her clothes. Meanwhile, she is the literally the stylist for the whole fucking show. Like, at this point. At this point, Darlene is a shoe in for Miss Congeniality easily. Darlene gave Juicy the dress she wore for the challenge. So at this point, what are. What are the who's. Y' all can't make fun of my clothes. Meanwhile, I'm the stylist for the whole Fucking crew for everybody.
Jan Sport
Everybody here.
Bob the Drag Queen
And wig stylist, costume, dress dresser, prop props.
Michelle Visage
She is so she's obviously. She is a shoe in for Miss Congeniality. I mean, there's no way anyone's getting Miss Congeniality out over her at this point. No way. She's lovely, she's kind, she's. She's dressing everyone.
Bob the Drag Queen
If anyone else wins, she's important.
Michelle Visage
She's kind. She's impotent.
Jan Sport
She's impotent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Michelle Visage
And Jane says she feels cautiously optimistic about her performances. Emphasis on the cautious rip. I think the truth is those are hard because the girls, I don't think they. I don't know if they watched each other's performances.
Jan Sport
They didn't, they didn't get to teach other perform. So that's so. So. Yeah. So they don't know.
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Michelle Visage
1-800- let's get into these looks, shall we? RuPaul and the judges.
Bob the Drag Queen
Everyone looks great.
Jan Sport
Stunning. I love this RuPaul outfit.
Michelle Visage
Everyone looks fantastic.
Bob the Drag Queen
She's have a matching shoe to it too. It's a matching shoe.
Michelle Visage
I really love this dress that, that I love when Michelle breaks out of wearing all black, I'm. I'm really into that.
Jan Sport
Yeah, I think she looks good. Let's go into our first queen, which is.
Bob the Drag Queen
So the category was from wholesome to fulsome.
Michelle Visage
Yes. From wholesome to fulsome.
Bob the Drag Queen
What Juicy love is.
Michelle Visage
Juicy's first look is actually a little bit kinky in and of itself. It looks like a latex housewife dress kind of. I don't think it is latex, but it looks like it.
Jan Sport
Yeah. She's doing it. She's doing Alice in Wonderland and she
Bob the Drag Queen
has a big bow at the back
Jan Sport
and this iconic Alice in Wonderland shape. And she has a big old sized bottle of poppers and she smells it and then she reveals into this like sexy leotard catsuit.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, Cheshire cat catsuit.
Jan Sport
Which. Did Cheshire cat have yellow eyes like that?
Michelle Visage
Wasn't he like striped, the Cheshire cat?
Monet X Change
I think that's how it's pronounced.
Michelle Visage
I thought it was the Cheshire cat.
Monet X Change
No, it's the Cheshire.
Michelle Visage
That's not true. Y' all know about the gas like me. It's the Cheshire cat. You know about the gals like me.
Jan Sport
Okay. The Cheshire cat.
Michelle Visage
I mean, the one from the Disney. Disney is. I think the only thing that's, like, canonic about the Cheshire Cat is that his eyes, like, float when he, like, he floats around and his eyes appear.
Bob the Drag Queen
But, yeah, this is the one I'm talking about.
Michelle Visage
Yeah, I think that's the Disney one for sure. But I think the only thing that's, like, canonic about the Cheshire Cat is that his eyes are yellow or that they kind of float around, like, without his face attached to it.
Jan Sport
Got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
And, yeah, I think it's.
Michelle Visage
Andy has a huge smile. That's the thing. The Cheshire cat has a massive, massive smile.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I think she fits the brief. I think this is. I think this is a really dope
Jan Sport
take on it to go do it. Alice in Wonderland theme and. And reveal.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I also. I love that she didn't.
Jan Sport
Was like, one of these girls. She didn't reveal her shit right on top of the thing. She, like, came down. She did the whole thing. She came all the way down to the top, to the bottom of the. Of the Runway, did her some proper thing, went upstage gen reveal, and did it, which was.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was nicely paced.
Jan Sport
So I like that about it.
Michelle Visage
I agree. This is.
Ryan Reynolds
She.
Michelle Visage
This is probably the most she's worn. Not the most, but, like, she's worn way less clothes than this. Her legs look great. Her ass is fantastic, and I love
Bob the Drag Queen
the way that is the way that
Jan Sport
garter is, like, pushing up her butt.
Jay
Yeah.
Michelle Visage
I love that she did chastity as her kink. I like that.
Jan Sport
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's go to the next one.
Michelle Visage
Up next. This was a really. This was a really fun take. Like, I think boring. I. I thought this was really camp. I thought it was really fun. I like that she had the. The hankies. I like that she had this piss on her dress, on her T shirt.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're doing piss play. You're gonna do this little piece of yolk. Like, this is piss play. Like, it looked.
Monet X Change
It looked like.
Bob the Drag Queen
She looked like. She looked like an egg. Darlene looked like an egg on the top.
Michelle Visage
Well, in the. In the context of this. This challenge, I think it was quite clear what it was.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but it was so boring. I'm like, girl, you got to. You got to be doing kink and piss play. Like, I think she could have went further with the piss play in terms of, like, making it look like piss. This just look like a stone, a
Jan Sport
yellow egg yolk on her thing. I thought this was black and I thought it was boring.
Michelle Visage
I. I like it. I like it. Cray dawn said, why are her legs so damn dark?
Bob the Drag Queen
Uh, you know, we've discussed this before,
Michelle Visage
and I do not know why. Let's go on to our next one. Up next, we have Mikey Meeks, who goes from a rose to a thorny spiked leather look. This is. I think this is really cool. I think I love her. I think what I love the most was that her bouquet turned into a whip. That was really clever.
Jan Sport
Yeah, that was cool. I think that was cool.
Bob the Drag Queen
I will say Mikey has won a lot of body suits and she has
Jan Sport
not been critiqued on it. Have you noticed this little Norman Michelle
Bob the Drag Queen
is like, can I have the bodysuit?
Michelle Visage
I hate when they call leotards bodysuits. I don't know why that drives me crazy. I do not know why that drives me crazy, but it does drive me crazy. I'm going to open up. I'm going to come clean about that. It does drive me crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I think in the community there's a debate between.
Jan Sport
I mean, not leotards, but bodysuits and catsuits. Like, people, people, people call a catsuit a bodysuit.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, you, you call this a leotard. Some people call this a body suit.
Jan Sport
Some people call the thing the full thing with the legs and the arms a catsuit. Some people call the legs with no arms a bodysuit. So it's like.
Michelle Visage
And some people call the one with the legs and arms a unitard. Some people call it a cat suit. Some people call it a unitard.
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't forget your favorite. I think only Bob calls it this.
Jan Sport
What?
Bob the Drag Queen
Cause you used to love these in drag, your little bike tards.
Michelle Visage
No, you call them bike tards. I got that from you. I got that from you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Drag dog.
Michelle Visage
I got that from you. You're the one saying bike tard. He was obsessed with bike tards.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, Bob, you just sold them for me. You call it a biketard.
Michelle Visage
I don't. I'm pretty. I'm almost 100% certain I got that. That terminology from you.
Jan Sport
No, no, ma'.
Jay
Am.
Michelle Visage
Let's go on to our next one.
Bob the Drag Queen
I like this look, though. It does look good.
Michelle Visage
And it was very close.
Jan Sport
It's cute.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jane.
Jan Sport
Don't.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't understand. She was Wuthering Heights. She's like, wuthering Heights.
Michelle Visage
Is there a candle. I haven't read Weathering Heights since I
Bob the Drag Queen
was in high school.
Michelle Visage
Is there a candle in Wuthering Heights?
Jan Sport
I'm assuming yes.
Monet X Change
Not as like a plot point.
Michelle Visage
I remember.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think it was a way to work.
Jan Sport
To work a kink in, like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Cause then she's like wax play and
Jan Sport
like all over her tits later on. So I think that's a way to work the kink in.
Michelle Visage
This is a really kind of boring kink. Like wax. I mean, I don't know, honey.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you. That means you. That means you would never have the
Jan Sport
right one to give me the right wax, baby. Because wax could be a turtle or I had.
Bob the Drag Queen
Especially when somebody put it on your booty hole. Well, I told your booty hole would it look.
Jan Sport
Would have been like a little cinch, girl.
Michelle Visage
My girlfriend. I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've just heard.
Michelle Visage
My girlfriend in high school and I, we would like. We tried like, food. It was a. I would never again will I ever.
Jan Sport
I was too fat to be using food. I felt being on the street,
Bob the Drag Queen
me and R.C. was like, Girl, there's one thing that we can't do. Like, we.
Jan Sport
We are too big to be. To be adding food to the bedroom, that's too much.
Michelle Visage
Um, but I. I also don't. I don't love this look. I. I'm not really into this one, to be honest. I think that I do. I will say that her breastplate is immaculately hidden.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is that a joke?
Michelle Visage
I think it is really well hidden because the seam is perfectly under that line and. And I don't see the. And it's under her neck.
Bob the Drag Queen
When she turned around, the racer back was like. You could see it clearly from the back.
Jan Sport
It was very obvious in the back.
Michelle Visage
Why would you. Why would your breastplate have a racer back on it?
Jan Sport
I don't know. Interesting.
Bob the Drag Queen
But yeah. And I was also the way the tits were positioned, they looked weird. Like they looked like they were. I didn't love it.
Jan Sport
Also, something about the reveal. She just like the reveal outfit. She just looks really, I don't know, like short.
Michelle Visage
She looks like her short legs. I think that he looks miniature.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I think that her, like her.
Michelle Visage
Her course is a little too long and the pain is.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think maybe that's what it is
Michelle Visage
that makes her legs look really short and stout.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, she looks like.
Jan Sport
She looks like the damn trunchable.
Michelle Visage
It's giving a little bit of trunchable. Yeah. And when you're a woman, as a woman of a certain size, you Gotta be really careful with that kind of stuff. Which is why I don't have. I don't have giant boobs. I'm a drag. My boobs are not huge because it can go trunchable real quick.
Jan Sport
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Patty thinks, Patty thinks I need to
Jan Sport
go smaller with my boobs.
Bob the Drag Queen
You think I should go smaller with my boobs? I said, Patty, I think my boobs are. You don't even have tits. Yes, I do. I wear tits all the time. What are you talking about now you
Michelle Visage
wear those tiny, tiny little pads. You don't have tits.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's not true. I wear a 38C.
Michelle Visage
That's, that's mostly because of your back. That's mostly back and shoulders and height.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's go to the next. The next.
Jan Sport
That's it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, no.
Michelle Visage
Coco Nini Coco. Is the Statue of Liberty into the kinky Statue of Liberty?
Jay
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
I thought it was like a really
Jan Sport
smart thing, but I was, I agree. Like, besides like wearing the kinky costume, I didn't get what her exact kink was like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is her kink going from Xena?
Michelle Visage
Yeah. Is her tank? Is her kink oxidation? It's like. Yeah. And I've been oxidized. I don't really get what's going on here because she, I will say I do like that she went from solid like, like a, a coppery copper to like an oxidized copper, which I think is quite clever.
Jan Sport
Yeah, she's a very smart queen. Also, she would have wore these, like, these girls wear those. I do not like wearing those tall ass heels.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you like wearing those?
Jan Sport
I hate those shoes. I feel like I, I can't like meet the ground.
Michelle Visage
I, I, I have some. No, yeah, we know.
Bob the Drag Queen
We're saying we know.
Michelle Visage
Yeah, we know. Jay, Shut your ass.
Monet X Change
But I also, I was on the impression that it wasn't. You didn't specifically have to do a kink like some girls did kinks, but about being like kind of dirty and slutty.
Michelle Visage
The prompt that you get when you, when on your paper is not what they say on the stage. So I, it feels like everyone did a kink except Mimi Coco, which in which seems to me that maybe there was something like do a kink in there.
Jan Sport
You know what I mean? That's not, that's actually, that's, that's true. I can't confirm. I've been to Jaggers three times and they, they do me things that they don't be saying.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, what's, what's, what's, what's Mikey's kink. Flowers.
Monet X Change
Getting.
Bob the Drag Queen
Getting money from John's.
Michelle Visage
No, the thorns. Like poking in thorns and like a little bit of blood because she also got a little bit of blood from her thorn.
Jan Sport
Oh, yeah, that's pain of that.
Michelle Visage
I love that. Someone here said Rick Batita said Nene hates to see a wig coming.
Bob the Drag Queen
She really does.
Michelle Visage
She can't stand a motherfucking wig. Don't put a wig nowhere near her. Don't even say wig around her.
Bob the Drag Queen
That opening look is.
Jan Sport
That opening look is scary. Like Nene Coco's like the. The.
Bob the Drag Queen
The copper one is scary looking.
Michelle Visage
Yeah, yeah. Just Liberty. Liberty for injustice, for all is scary.
Jan Sport
Monet, you're right. Can we go back to the looks, Jay? I mean, Jacob, Jesus Christ. The two of y' all on here. I can't keep it straight. Jacob, can you cycle back again, please?
Michelle Visage
Straight.
Jan Sport
Honestly, I think Juicy's my favorite this week. She looks great.
Michelle Visage
She does look really great. She does. I think she might be my favorite too. So let's go on to the judging.
Jan Sport
Judging.
Michelle Visage
So Juicy, Darlene and Mikey all got great critiques. They felt like Jane.
Jan Sport
No, Darlene was not great. Darlene was. They said she was funny, but they said she didn't hit the brief, really. Hearing untucked,
Michelle Visage
they felt like Jane didn't go far enough in her portrayal. And they felt like Nene was very one note. But Mikey ends up winning the challenge with a. She wins $5,000 and tickets to Stop that Train. Notice they did not say tickets to the premiere.
Bob the Drag Queen
Girl, they said tickets to go see it over there at Magic Johnson.
Michelle Visage
They said you can see it in Florida, baby. You know we're not flying you out.
Bob the Drag Queen
Tuts. Honestly, that's one of my. What's. Can I tell you?
Jan Sport
That's one of the things I miss from New York City. I miss going to see Wuiz at Magic Johnson.
Bob the Drag Queen
It is such an experience. Oh, my God. You have Brooks.
Jan Sport
I fucking love Brooks. See?
Michelle Visage
Were you. Were you inside the train?
Jan Sport
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are you going to. Are you.
Michelle Visage
Did you get invited to the premiere?
Jan Sport
Yeah.
Michelle Visage
Are you going?
Jan Sport
I don't know. I don't even know if I'm in town. I don't think I'm in town.
Michelle Visage
Damn, you too good for RuPaul? Why didn't I get invited?
Jan Sport
So, yeah, next time maybe you for Stop that train too.
Michelle Visage
I was like, I wonder if Rapal was going to come see me on Broadway because she went to go see Jinx. She did not. Let's keep moving on. Mikey Meeks wins Nene and Jane are in Zebate. And I agree. They were the two worst.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. I could have seen it either. Either Jane, definitely.
Jan Sport
I could have seen a case for either Jane, Nene or Darlene.
Michelle Visage
I think. I think Nene did worse than Darlene because at least. Even if Darlene wasn't like a super duper Karen, she was just funnier. Like, she was just funnier to me.
Jan Sport
You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, let's talk about this lip sync.
Bob the Drag Queen
I thought that this was before you do.
Michelle Visage
This is Nene's second time in a row in the bottom. And this is Jane's first time ever in the bottom. And then Nene says she's up against me and that's bad news for her. I love when a bitch talks shit right before the motherfucking lip sync. Because then you. That's how you know. Because I feel like I've never seen them do that and then actually have that person lose. That's like when Peppermint said, I actually feel bad for Cynthia right now.
Monet X Change
Don't they record them after the lip sync? Don't they do the confessionals are recorded after the lip sync?
Jan Sport
They are, yeah.
Monet X Change
So they've all. They all know that they won, so they can talk shit.
Michelle Visage
But they're. But they're. But the questions aren't. Their questions are like, how do you feel in this moment? And if you're feeling honest, you're like,
Jan Sport
that is true and confident.
Michelle Visage
So they ask you to basically, like, be your real self and like, say how you truly feel. And if you. If you lost, I reckon you might lie and be like, I don't know how. I'm like, you might not be confident, but I'm saying when they put it in there, when they put it in the edit, this bitch is about to get beat. I still. I mean, Peppermint standing about. Cynthia Lefontaine is one of the cuntiest, like, what do you call them? Interviews or confessionals ever talking. I actually feel bad for Cynthia.
Bob the Drag Queen
This was a. This is going to lip sync.
Michelle Visage
I do think I'm actually scared for Cynthia. She goes, I'm actually scared for Cynthia or scared for her.
Jan Sport
That was reset.
Bob the Drag Queen
Nene bodied her.
Jan Sport
And especially when she did that cartwheel into the. Into the back tuck was insane. I don't think we have seen a back tuck on the show with Jax, but never in this way.
Bob the Drag Queen
Nini is obviously. Nini is a. She covers so many. So much ground as an entertainer.
Jan Sport
She's a. She's a great designer. She's funny and she's a great like lip sync and performer. So Nini's these really dope. She's really, really, really dope. And she. She ate Jane's ass up.
Michelle Visage
What made it particular?
Bob the Drag Queen
Whose music is that?
Michelle Visage
I don't know, Jacob.
Bob the Drag Queen
Just playing.
Monet X Change
Sorry, I didn't realize I was muted. I was trying to find the clip from Last Dance where Raja o' Hara is going against Scarlet Envy and she's like, it's about to be your last dance, bitch. Or something like that.
Michelle Visage
I think what makes this cartwheel into a back tuck so fierce is that they did the same move and then Nene just took it a step further. Actually eight steps further. Like otherwise it would be like, wow, they both did a cartwheel. But bitch, she did a cartwheel, threw her legs to the sky, her head to the ground, grabbed the back of her thighs and stuck the landings like fucking Simone Biles.
Jan Sport
That was not Simone. Not Simone.
Bob the Drag Queen
Crazy call Simone to call you. Hey,
Michelle Visage
what is this you are doing on these backflippings?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, BC now toxic me after this is how toxic I am after. After I see her do that, I'm so I gotta do it too. I would round it up, do a
Jan Sport
car one, try to backtalk on that stage and correct.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm like, I gotta do it.
Michelle Visage
So Nene won. I agree with that. I agree with that. I think Jane was the worst and I think in the challenge and I think Nene beat her on the lip sync. I and as well as Jane's and by the way, Jane has been immaculate this season.
Bob the Drag Queen
But girl, but.
Michelle Visage
But also. It is what it is, my boy.
Bob the Drag Queen
See, I disagree. I disagree because yes, I think Jane
Jan Sport
did lose the lip sync and she was not creating the challenge.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I think this was the just
Jan Sport
cause to do a double Shantae because I think that Jane, she was in the bottom last week, but Jane should not have been in the bottom last week. We could all agree that Jane Jones did a good job in the makeover.
Bob the Drag Queen
So that was just a bullshit placement last week. So this is really the first time
Jan Sport
we've seen Jane stumble. And I think her bottom placement here,
Bob the Drag Queen
yes, it was warranted this episode.
Jan Sport
But it's her first stumble and you're going to send me home with my first stumble. Bullshit. It should have been a double. A double Shantae.
Michelle Visage
So you want to see two double Shantaes in one season. Didn't we get that when in what's the name season in Kandy season we had eight double Shantaes in a row.
Jan Sport
I don't remember that.
Michelle Visage
I remember watching that season being like, damn, is anybody going to go home?
Bob the Drag Queen
So, yeah, I think it was bullshit. I think they should have.
Jan Sport
They should have given. They made a double Shantae and they could have done that, but they didn't.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think sending Jane. Jane Donholm is criminal.
Michelle Visage
I don't. I think that Jane did a really good job this season, but you can't just have everything you've done to protect you from doing poorly in a challenge. And it'd be one thing if she, like, was as bad as someone else. Jane Dunt was not only the worst on the Runway, in my opinion, but. But she also was obviously the worst in the challenge. Obviously.
Bob the Drag Queen
I disagree. I think Nene was the worst in the challenge.
Jan Sport
She was the worst.
Michelle Visage
Mm. Well, you just said earlier, you said, Jane don't ship in the bottom, but Nene and Darlene can swap out. So which one is.
Monet X Change
No, no, no.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm saying yes, you said Jane should
Michelle Visage
be at the bottom, and you said Nene and Darlene can swap out. So you're swapping out the worst for someone else.
Bob the Drag Queen
Clarity. No, what I said. What I said was I understand Jane as we have Jane's placement. I said I would have done Nene
Jan Sport
or Darlene to be with her.
Bob the Drag Queen
Not like. I wasn't. Like, put them in order.
Jan Sport
I'm just saying we have Jane.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jane definitely in the bottom, and Nene
Jan Sport
should be the other one. Nene or Donnie could be the other one with her, is what I'm saying.
Monet X Change
I'm saying.
Michelle Visage
But if you think that. If you think Nene was the worst, why would Jane be definitely in the bottom and then swap out Nene for someone else, that she was the worst?
Bob the Drag Queen
Because I think that her.
Michelle Visage
I said.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm saying because Jane definitely belongs there and either Darlene or Nidi. What is so confusing about that?
Michelle Visage
Because you chat. Am I crazy? You were saying. You were saying that Jane should be in the bottom. Like, yeah, Jane in the bottom. But you're saying Nene was the worst. So why would Nene be your definite bottom, then have Jane and Darlene swap out. What are you not understanding?
Bob the Drag Queen
I see what you're saying, but I
Jan Sport
don't understand what you're trying to. What you're implying.
Bob the Drag Queen
It doesn't make sense.
Michelle Visage
It makes chat. Am I crazy here?
Bob the Drag Queen
You're crazy, but that's on a separate conversation.
Jan Sport
A different issue.
Michelle Visage
That's how you sound to me, by the way, whenever you speak.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's very problematic.
Michelle Visage
And what are you gonna do about it? And what are you gonna do about it? We're live.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know we're live. We can't edit this out.
Jan Sport
Right?
Michelle Visage
Loop it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God.
Michelle Visage
Edit. I'm not like you. I don't have Jay edit out things I say.
Bob the Drag Queen
Honey, James, not edit out what I say.
Michelle Visage
Okay, well, honey, honey, we'll release. We'll release the. The most themed files one day. Everything you've edited out that you've asked us. Yeah, honey, but we're gonna release the most seen files one day. Play with me. Because me and Jay have it all unlocked, ready to unleash on you the day you ever see something we don't fucking like, clear it up.
Jan Sport
You're so ridiculous.
Bob the Drag Queen
Anyway, so. I mean. And we're not alone. The Internet was shocked. Everyone was shocked, gathered, shook, shattered.
Jan Sport
That Jane don't went home today.
Michelle Visage
I agree. Jane genuinely did a fantastic job this season. She was amazing. She deserved to go home this episode. I'm so sorry.
Bob the Drag Queen
It is what it is.
Michelle Visage
It be like that sometimes. It really. I will say this, though. No shade to the girlies who've been brought back on their season. But she got brought back on her season. Yeah. No shade to, like, Naysha and Diabet and other girls who have been brought back on their season. I will say this. If you're going to bring a girl back, Jane would be one to bring back, but she still need to go home.
Jan Sport
Do we think.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do we think she comes back?
Monet X Change
She could.
Michelle Visage
I mean, it'd be weird this late in the game. Like, what's she going to miss one episode and then come back to the finale? I would be. I would. I would. I would start slashing.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's cunt.
Michelle Visage
I would slash tires.
Jan Sport
That's cunt. I would not. I would want that to happen.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think she's earned it.
Michelle Visage
Bitch. I would be outside Rue's mansion in Beverly Hills cutting up her tires.
Bob the Drag Queen
Doesn't she have three wins and all high placements?
Michelle Visage
No, she. She had one bottom last week.
Jay
2.
Michelle Visage
So she had two bottoms in a row.
Jan Sport
She was in the bottom, though. She's not lip sync. She was in the bottom. That's not how that works. She's not in the bottom.
Michelle Visage
No, but she wasn't. But she was low.
Jan Sport
Yeah, so she was in the bottom.
Monet X Change
She does have the longest streak of high placements out of any real girl
Jan Sport
in history in her.
Michelle Visage
It was a whole talking point at the top of the episode about how was her first time with a low placement. It was a whole talking point, but not bottom.
Jan Sport
She was in the low bottom.
Michelle Visage
I didn't say bottom. I said low. Let's put on our listening ear. Oh, my God.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can I can. I was going through my.
Jan Sport
Through my Twitter bookmarks last night.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was looking for another video, and I found three bookmarks, and I bookmark of you. Of me catching. Of you saying, I never said this, I said that. And then back in the day when Jay used to loop stuff, brought it back, and I was like, I'm gonna repost these on the fucking civil rights. I was like, you know how many
Michelle Visage
we have of you? And also all the clips, by the way, everyone. All people. Monet said she never had an exploding foot. Everyone who was at our show to Rhode island released your pictures of Monet's shoe literally exploding on stage. And once again, performing with one shoe on you. Performing with one shoe is something. It is a trademark of your. I would say you're more known for that.
Jan Sport
Trademark.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would say you're more known for
Michelle Visage
that than sponges at this point.
Jan Sport
Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've had those shoes for a very
Jan Sport
long time, and they were. They'll let them.
Michelle Visage
Not that long.
Monet X Change
How long?
Michelle Visage
Who do you think is going to
Monet X Change
win RuPaul's Drag Race Season 18?
Michelle Visage
I. I still stand by what I said before, that Mikey Meeks is the winner of this season.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I. My winner was Jane, but I think
Jan Sport
it's going to be Mikey Meeks. Now.
Michelle Visage
Can I say, oh, somebody about to piss people off. Say it. Say it. I dare you to say it. I dare you to say it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, I really like Mikey Meeks. I really like Mikey Meeks. But she's not a star.
Michelle Visage
You know what I mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, Jane don't is like, I'm sorry, Jane don't is a star. Like, you see Jane don't. This season, you're like, oh, this bitch is a winner. Michael doesn't give winner. Like, I really like her, though. She's probably my favorite personality this season,
Jan Sport
but she doesn't give, like, winner. You know what I mean?
Michelle Visage
I don't, because I. She's been my winner ever since the Frankenstein challenge.
Bob the Drag Queen
What is the chats? I can't see the chat. The chat.
Jan Sport
Do y'. All.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do y' all read?
Jan Sport
Y' all disagree?
Monet X Change
Surprise us.
Michelle Visage
I'll read them. I wanted to read them. Cray dawn says Nene for the win. Season 18, season Daddy Dawn. I said. That's not what I said. I said, Darlene.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, you said the name of the
Jan Sport
person you were reading.
Michelle Visage
Craydon. Craydon. Craydon is the one always chatting. Kradon has had more mentions than anyone. The chat here. The chat here says, Jay, edit that out. Monet said anything about Mikey. Girls say it. Monet. We know nothing. Nothing about nothing about Mikey. Someone said. Agreed, Bob. She's Mikey. Meeks says Rick.
Bob the Drag Queen
Rick Petita.
Monet X Change
Somebody else said. Monet, speak your truth.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, again, like, I really like Mikey. Like I said, she's one of my favorites this season.
Jan Sport
I think she's very funny, but I don't.
Bob the Drag Queen
I feel like she knows, like, a
Jan Sport
little more time to cook, in my opinion.
Michelle Visage
So pointed out, Mikey's been in the top the last seven challenges in a row. You know what, Jane don't do? Win drag race season 18. On that note, let's hop over to our Patreon exclusive. You guys want to hear our thoughts on Untucked and the drama? Please join us there. See you soon.
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Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Episode: Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S18E13 "Karens Gone Wild"
Date: April 1, 2026
Hosts & Guests: Monét X Change, Bob the Drag Queen, Michelle Visage, Jan Sport, Jay
Theme: A hilarious, incisive recap and judging of RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 18, Episode 13, with signature Sibling chemistry, irreverence, and drag wisdom. Special focus on the all-improv "Karens Gone Wild" challenge, the top five queens’ runway presentations, and the explosive lip sync that sent a frontrunner home.
This week, Bob, Monét, Michelle, and friends break down S18E13 of Drag Race: “Karens Gone Wild.” The panel reviews each queen’s performance in an improv acting challenge as over-the-top “Karens,” the creative runway category “Wholesome to Fulsome,” and evaluates whether the shocking elimination was justified. The episode is rich with banter, drag insights, and a few showbiz tangents, all delivered in the signature rowdy Sibling Rivalry style.
[31:23] Runway discussion begins
Each queen presents a two-in-one transformation from sweet/wholesome to “fulsome” (kinky):
[41:14] Judging starts
WINNER: Mikey Meeks ($5,000 & tickets to “Stop That Train”)
[43:03] Lip sync discussion
This episode of Sibling Watchery brings the perfect blend of drag expertise and riotous humor. The hosts dissect what makes an improv challenge work (or flop), argue over fairness in elimination, and spotlight the queens’ creativity (or lack thereof) on the runway. The shocking ouster of Jane leaves the panel divided but always entertained, setting the stage for a tight race to the finale.
Next time: More drama, another challenge, and relentless sibling chaos.
For the piping hot Untucked gossip and drama, catch the Patreon-exclusive segment!