The One About Libraries

Summary

Podcast Summary: Sibling Rivalry – The One About Libraries (October 22, 2025)

Overview

In this laughter-filled episode of Sibling Rivalry, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change welcome their longtime friend and fellow Drag Race alum, Kim Chi. Together, they discuss personal stories centered around driving, city life, drag gig adventures, dogs, and most notably, Kim Chi's new literary projects. The heart of the episode spotlights libraries—their importance, Kim Chi's library-inspired book, and a playful atonement from Bob for his past "abolish libraries" bit. Throughout, the trio share honest, witty, and at times vulnerable anecdotes, laced with their signature sharp banter.

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Main Guests

• Bob the Drag Queen (host)
• Monét X Change (host)
• Kim Chi (special guest)

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Drag Gig Memories & Queer Community Adventures

Timestamps: 02:24–06:16

• Bob, Monét, and Kim Chi reminisce about their early drag careers: questionable gigs, specific nightclubs (like Necto in Michigan), and the legendary queen Chanel Hunter known for selling excellent jewelry backstage (“She’d open up the briefcase and be like, shop. It feels like a drug deal.” — Bob, 03:39).
• They muse about infamous dressing room moments, like Willem’s flip-flop shoes (“It’s a bunch of flip flops glued together…” — Bob, 04:59).
• The hosts and Kim Chi bond over their shared history and inside jokes about drag travels.

2. City Living & Driving Follies

Timestamps: 05:07–13:27

• Kim Chi shares nostalgia for Chicago—the food, public transit, and why biking there was superior to LA or NY: “You could bike everywhere. I miss the public transit.” (Kim Chi, 05:22)
• Hilarious recounts of Uber dependence, learning to drive during the pandemic, and a memorable incident where Kim Chi scraped Naomi Smalls’ car (“Her car just came out of nowhere... That didn’t sound right.” — Kim, 07:00).
• The group dives into LA driving culture: speeding, the new “no touch” phone law (“There’s a new law… It has to be mounted…” — Bob, 07:42), and safe driving habits.

3. Stories of Friendship & Airport Pickup Etiquette

Timestamps: 13:08–17:20

• Bob and Monét debate who’s the better driver; Kim Chi diplomatically calls both good (“I have to give credit where it’s due. You both are great.” — Kim, 13:21).
• The hardship and meaning of picking up friends from LAX or JFK. Monét boasts about airport pickups as acts of love, and they swap war stories about overpriced rides, random driver scams, and flat-rate NYC taxi fares.

4. Library Love: Inspiration and Book Launches

Timestamps: 21:16–27:40

• Kim explains the origin of her YA novel Donatella Hamachi and the Library Avengers: “A lot of public libraries are getting defunded, so I tweeted about how much public libraries meant to me. That tweet kind of blew up in the library community…” (Kim, 22:44)
• Playful callout: Kim’s book villain, Blob the Dragon, is inspired by Bob’s old “abolish libraries” bit. Bob recounts his own positive library memories and clarifies: “I was joking. I grew up going to libraries all the time.” (Bob, 23:47)
• All three share early relationships with libraries—Kim Chi’s summer reading, anime festivals, and the value of library resources: “Libraries are not just a place to rent books, but also a great community resource.” (Kim, 26:01)
• Notable moment: “Honestly, being able to eat off of gaining knowledge is kind of brilliant.” (Bob, 25:35)

5. Origami, Graphic Design, and Creative Life

Timestamps: 24:15–27:32

• Bob and Kim bond over origami; both practiced as kids with books from the library.
• Kim shares her pre-Drag Race career as a graphic designer for hotels and restaurants, why she left design to professionals for her books.

6. Food, Cooking, and Kimchi Eats the World

Timestamps: 30:43–39:37

• Kim introduces her new cookbook, Kimchi Eats the World, an “autobiography in recipes” inspired by pandemic cooking and global travel: “I share my story and why that recipe’s there. It’s a love letter... introducing everyone to my favorite global cuisines.” (Kim, 31:05)
• The trio discusses last meal choices:
  • Kim: “Fresh cooked rice, Spam, grilled crispy, three sunny side eggs, and a bowl of kimchi.” (Kim, 32:34)
  • Monét: fried chicken from Brassica in Boston, macaroni and cheese, oxtails, and her mother’s West Indian-style mac pie.
  • Bob: buffalo wings (some battered, some lemon pepper), tons of ranch, fries, and lemonade.
• They debate wing styles, dipping sauces, blue cheese vs. ranch, and reminisce about food fails (e.g., bad Wingstop experiences).

7. Queenly Cooking and Cookbook Life

Timestamps: 46:56–48:36

• Discussing rumor-mill and reality: which drag queens are secretly great cooks? Kim says perhaps Latrice and Silky, as well as herself. They touch on Silky Nutmeg Ganache’s cookbooks and notable cocktail books featuring drag queens’ images (“There’s, like, a random cocktail book where I’m undercover… I don’t drink, so I’m just like, this seems so random.” — Kim, 48:05).

8. More Drag Tour Antics: Work the World, Drama, and Road Life

Timestamps: 49:06–59:25

• Kim has been a Work the World tour staple from the start, witnessing all the backstage drama, tardy queens, and the evolution of show production.
• Anecdotes of group ultimatums in Montreal, Valentina’s infamous dual meet and greet and unsanctioned extra numbers, dressing room chaos, security breaches, and the intense logistics behind major drag tours.
• The evolution of backstage support: from solo drag survival to teams for wardrobe, wigs, and even luxury like people fixing your wigs mid-tour.
• Notable moment: “The vibes were great and all the girls were professional. Violet was there, but it was still fun.” (Kim, 52:36)
• “Oh, the fans broke into the dressing room. And Latrice just goes, ‘No, get out,’ ’cause Latrice was HOT.” (Kim, 58:24)

9. Library Book Launches & Future Projects

Timestamps: 59:25–End

• Kim’s books Donatella Hamachi and the Library Avengers (YA novel) and Kimchi Eats the World (cookbook) launch October 14th and a week later, respectively. Preorders help small authors.
• Streaming services are reportedly interested in film rights!
• Bob campaigns: “Since it’s my likeness, I think I will be playing Blob the Drag Thing. And those libraries are going down.” (Bob, 60:11)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Libraries:
  “People don’t realize, it’s not just a place where you can, like, rent books, but it’s also a great community resource. If you don’t speak English, the librarians will help you fill out job applications.”
  — Kim Chi, 26:01

• On Drag Queen Airport Pick-Ups:
  “When someone picks you up from the airport in a big city like New York or Los Angeles, that’s real love.”
  — Kim Chi, 13:48

• On Wing Preferences:
  “I want everything covered in ranch.”
  — Bob the Drag Queen, 44:24

• On Cooking and Umami:
  “It’s like a savory flavor… You bite into a rind of parmesan… or into a piece of tomato, you know, you get a little savory hit.”
  — Kim Chi, 38:52

• On Professionalism and Drag Tours:
  “We were fully ready—except the outfit. We were like, ‘We’re not gonna get dressed until they’re ready.’”
  — Kim Chi, 50:03

• On Book Launches:
  “Please pre-order, because it helps us, you know, small authors a lot.”
  — Kim Chi, 59:36

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Episode Roadmap (with Timestamps)

• 02:24 – Drag gig memories, Necto in Michigan, drag jewelry dealing
• 05:07 – Missing Chicago, city living, and public transit appreciation
• 06:16 – Uber, learning to drive, LA driving culture and legal changes
• 13:08 – Best/worst drivers, airport pick-up stories
• 21:16 – Kim’s book inspiration, library advocacy, Bob’s “abolish libraries” joke background
• 24:15 – Origami, library nostalgia, graphic design life
• 30:43 – Kimchi Eats the World, comfort foods, debates on rice, eggs, and umami
• 39:38 – Fried chicken, mac and cheese, and wing discussions
• 46:56 – Drag queens who cook, cookbook shoutouts
• 49:06 – Work the World tour stories (drama, evolution, backstage logistics)
• 59:25 – Book launches, streaming option news, Bob’s campaign to play his own book’s villain

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Conclusion

This episode is a lively, warm, and frequently riotous conversation celebrating libraries, drag artistry, and sisterhood. Kim Chi’s love of libraries is evident, and the playful rivalry among the hosts and guest provides both hearty laughs and moments of real insight—on everything from food to public resources, touring hardships, and the power of queer community.

Note: This summary omits advertisements, generic intros/outros, and focuses entirely on the dynamic content and memorable exchanges among Bob, Monét, and Kim Chi.

Transcript

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm Monet X Change and this is Sibling rivalry. On this week's episode, Bob the Dragon apologizes for his very hurtful and insane comments.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In our libraries, we invite Kim Chi to the podcast.

[Kim Chi]

We find out what made more.

[Monet X Change]

When they say this, I wonder why they decided to do that. We find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is this what the guys say? And we find out what made Kim say this.

[Kim Chi]

Does anyone follow the law anymore?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What a treat.

[Monet X Change]

A trick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And an enigma.

[Monet X Change]

And a treasure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And a treasure. We are joined by one of my

[Monet X Change]

favorite drag queens of all time, Donatella Hamachi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone, we have Kim Chi on the pod.

[Kim Chi]

Thank you for having me. Which camera do I look at?

[Monet X Change]

Whichever one you want.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All of them. This is your main one. But yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Hello, Kim. How are you?

[Kim Chi]

I'm good. Thank you for having me in this beautiful, humble podcast.

[Monet X Change]

Do you love our new set? Do you want to give us some confidence about how fierce our set is?

[Kim Chi]

Honestly, the studio is very impressive. Last time I came here to play games with Bob and I'm like, wow, Bob's made it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And it only took 10 years after we met, which is crazy because you and I filmed drag race over 10 years ago, Doug, which feels insane.

[Kim Chi]

And you know, we went through something traumatic together. But then my favorite part was doing a lot of questionable gigs together after.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Kim Chi]

And all the Stories that come from it. Monet, you too?

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, some of the gigs, we. Because my memory kind of lapses because sometimes we weren't doing gigs together, but we did the same gigs. And I think one of my favorite ones, I remember calling him and asking about was that gig. Was it. What was that place outside of, like, boss? It's called. I think it's called Machine.

[Kim Chi]

What city?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was that one gig where you go and then one of the queens sells you jewelry.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. In Michigan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In Michigan.

[Kim Chi]

Michigan, yes. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not Lansing.

[Kim Chi]

Necto. Necto.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Necto.

[Monet X Change]

I bet. Necto.

[Kim Chi]

Chanel Hunter.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nectar. So when you go, Chanel will. Basically. It looks like a drug deal.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Upstairs. Upstairs in the thing.

[Kim Chi]

But when I tell you that jewelry, it is some of the best jewelry that I've ever had.

[Monet X Change]

Jewelry for a long time and innovative

[Bob the Drag Queen]

stuff that no one else is. Like these weird finger things she was doing.

[Kim Chi]

And the stones don't even fall out.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they're good.

[Kim Chi]

And they're like $60.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I still have some of my nectar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She would walk in. It's not Necto jewelry.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but I call it again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She would, like, come to the dressing room, and she'd be like. She'd be like, hey. And then close the door. Then she open up the briefcase and be like, shop. Like light. It feels like light.

[Kim Chi]

She's got one in, like, every color, and they're all, like, big, chunky.

[Monet X Change]

I think we worked the same night. Like, she didn't. She didn't like you saying, like, she came after the show to see.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, she was a queen on the show. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was a queen on the show. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Next was fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sometimes I say it feels like I know me and Kim didn't do that gig together, but we bonded over that jewelry.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And. But then we. I mean, we all have. We never did Roscoe's together.

[Kim Chi]

No. The one time where Valentino went home.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were we there together?

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was wearing that yellow dress, and I was like, that was gaggy.

[Monet X Change]

That yellow dress. You have, like, 49 yellow dresses.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The one from Sibling Riverly. Oh, God.

[Kim Chi]

And Bob was, like, up on his feet, just, like, standing up, up and down. And, you know, I mean, like, when I watch things, like. Like, I'm not a very reactive person. I'm just, like, sitting there, like, soaking it in, and then I'll say things, you know? So then next to, like, Willem and Bob, I just felt like I was like, should I start screaming or something?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I Just. Yeah, I give very big. Oh, my God.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Commercial/Advertisement Voice]

Oh, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's that yellow dress.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, my God. Yes. Iconic.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. I'm about to say there's no way could. Because Simon Riverly hadn't happened yet, so you couldn't have went this. No.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I realized it was a different yellow dress. I was thinking about when you and I went back, I was wearing the Riverly dress.

[Kim Chi]

Oh.

[Monet X Change]

And there goes redacted.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, my God. Look at Willem's shoes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, God.

[Monet X Change]

What did you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's wearing those flip flops on.

[Monet X Change]

Flip flops?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a bunch of flip flops glued together. And then the top layer, you know, you take a bunch of thong flip flops, and you just take all the foam off.

[Kim Chi]

Iconic.

[Monet X Change]

So wild. Do you miss Chicago?

[Kim Chi]

Every day.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Kim Chi]

Every day? Yeah, but, I mean, it was like, a moment in time. Yeah, I'm nostalgic about it. I don't think I would, like, go back and live there again, but I miss the city. I miss the food. I miss the culture.

[Monet X Change]

I miss.

[Kim Chi]

You could bike everywhere. I miss the public transit.

[Monet X Change]

That is something. I wish la. I wish LA was more biker, like, like, walking friendly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you're driving now?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah.

[Kim Chi]

I've been driving.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you Ubered for a while. Yeah, you and you, Naomi. Some.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yo.

[Monet X Change]

When I first moved. Moved to la, I could not believe

[Bob the Drag Queen]

that y' all would uber Uber everywhere.

[Monet X Change]

That is crazy.

[Kim Chi]

I had gotten used to it. I always told myself, like, I. I'm not gonna learn how to drive. Like, at this point, I'm gonna make it my personality. And then pandemic hit, and then I need to go to a grocery store, and I called an uber. It was 40 minutes.

[Monet X Change]

Damn.

[Kim Chi]

And then after I got to the grocery store while holding all my bags of grocery, I called in the car, and it was 50 minutes, and I'm like, no, I'm in this, like, hot parking lot with all my groceries for

[Bob the Drag Queen]

15 minutes waiting for you.

[Monet X Change]

No, I was looking at.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so Kim called me because Kim didn't drive. And then Kim was like, I need you to teach me how to drive. We ended up not working out. I actually really wanted to teach Kim how to drive, but am I allowed to say this?

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So the other day. Not the other day, like, a couple

[Monet X Change]

months ago, Naomi Smalls. Oh, God. What? Naomi Smalls is watching me together, and

[Bob the Drag Queen]

then we're, like, leaving, and Naomi has this scrape that is, like.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, really? Oh, God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This scrape that is, like, from her front door all the way to the tail Light.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, girl, what happened?

[Commercial/Advertisement Voice]

Kim.

[Kim Chi]

Kim.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kim Scraped. I was like, how is this scraped? Was Kim just backing up and scraping? What happened?

[Kim Chi]

So we were at a photo shoot together, and I parked my car, and Naomi parked her car at an angle because the parking lot was in one of those, like, mountain, like, small, like, thing. So then Naomi's like, do you want me to pull my car out? And I was like, no, I think I'll just squeeze it out.

[Monet X Change]

And you squeezed it.

[Kim Chi]

And then I was backing up, and her car just came out of nowhere. And the next thing you know, I hear, and I'm like, wait, that can't be it. So I just went back further and I heard, and I'm like, oh, that didn't sound right. But her car shouldn't have came out

[Monet X Change]

of nowhere, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also, Naomi's also not a good driver either.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, you say. I remember you told me when y' all were all done with Drag Race, and then you were here driving with Naomi and Kim. And Naomi would be driving, texting on the side.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She would text and she would drive with her knees. She would literally be doing like this.

[Monet X Change]

To be fair, I do that sometimes, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's insane. There's a law. No touch.

[Monet X Change]

I'm sure. I'm sure there's a law.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's a no touch. Not just texting. You are not allowed to touch your phone unless you're at a red light in L. A. This is a brand new law. It's called the no touch law. You cannot touch your phone. It has to be. First of all, it has to be mounted. Really?

[Monet X Change]

Your phone has to be mounted?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It has to be mounted and you can only touch it at a red light.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Commercial/Advertisement Voice]

Is this.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, when did this law drop?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I want to say maybe two months ago. Oh, wow. Like, it's the new Taylor Swift album. When did this drop?

[Monet X Change]

Literally, they drop a new law.

[Kim Chi]

Does anyone follow the law anymore?

[Monet X Change]

I know, I will say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

June. June 23rd of 20, I will say this.

[Monet X Change]

Since moving in New York City, I used to get red light tickets. Like passing a red light or texting or on the phone. In la, everyone is texting and on the phone. Like, I don't really. Cause there's carplay. But I oftentimes when driving, I see something like this, and I don't. I think it's like a thing. In la, people just are always talking on the phone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I use the.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but I just. I see this a lot also. People speed in la. People just drive fast in la. And it's not.

[Kim Chi]

I don't trust anybody in la. I'm always, like, driving as if someone's just going to, like, pull out in front of me.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Literally, people just speed here.

[Kim Chi]

Do you.

[Monet X Change]

Do you find that people speed here?

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, the answer is yes. I do not drive fast. I drive the speed limit.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or either 5 above it or 5 below it. I am not going.

[Kim Chi]

There's no way. I need to get there, like, so fast that I need to be rushing.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, me either.

[Kim Chi]

So many people on the highway that do not put the blinkers on when they suddenly change lanes. That is so crazy.

[Monet X Change]

That is annoying. I do not do that. You, first of all, you've never even

[Bob the Drag Queen]

been that baby driving.

[Kim Chi]

I've been in car. Monet driving it. I've always felt very safe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet's a good driver, but she doesn't always use the blinker, though.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I do use my blinker.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all. I use blinkers in the parking lot.

[Monet X Change]

I use blinkers everywhere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I be in my own garage. Blink, blink, blink, blink. I don't want nobody surprised.

[Kim Chi]

Or to me, it's just, like, muscle memory. If I'm, like, turning my hand automatically, just like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's such a lame thing. But, you know, when you. There's two blinker settings. There's the all the way on, and there's like the.

[Monet X Change]

You tap it and it does it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I never. I always forget to do the tap. And I always feel bad about, like,

[Monet X Change]

having a blinker on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

My favorite memory of you driving was we went to the premiere of the Trixie Motel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

And then afterwards, like, we were driving back that night for some reason, and I was like, all right, I got to stay awake and keep Bob company. And I just, of course, passed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no, you did not stay awake. I have driven Kim sleeping several times.

[Kim Chi]

And then I woke up to Bob just driving, singing at a full, like, out loud to, like, no music. And I'm like, there was no music for it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, there's no music.

[Kim Chi]

You're just, like, singing out loud, like, alone. And I'm like, is Bob trying to, like, keep himself awake or like, does this have. Normally drive, like, what's happening?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, the music wasn't playing.

[Monet X Change]

There was no music.

[Kim Chi]

And you're just singing, like, on your own.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, so Kim falls asleep a lot. Kim's very sleepy.

[Commercial/Advertisement Voice]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And so Kim came to see me, like, Irvine or. You went to Oxnard. Oxnard. So Kim. So Kim drove out to Oxnard to see me do some standup. It was me and Jared Goldstein. And then Kennedy was there. And then I think I drove Kennedy. And then Kim was like, I cannot stand.

[Kim Chi]

No, I picked you up and I drove you there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what it was.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that's what it was. That's what it was. Kim picked me up and drove me there. And then Kim was like, I cannot stay awake. I need someone. So I think that Kennedy drove you back.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then I drove Kennedy's car. So Kennedy was like, I have to. I have to drive Kimchi home. So Kennedy drove Kim home. Kim slept the whole way. And then I drove Kennedy's Subaru back to. And then we did. And then we did a little.

[Kim Chi]

A little.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A little car swap.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. I used to have, like, sleep apnea, so I would, like, get sleepy, but it went away.

[Monet X Change]

It's all going away now.

[Kim Chi]

After losing weight, you have to.

[Monet X Change]

Sleep apnea went away, which is crazy work. Also, Kim, you are so flexible. I can only sit crisscross applesauce for maybe five minutes, and then my legs fall asleep.

[Kim Chi]

You know, so many people tell me that I have, like, really open hips, which I never realized.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is this what the guy is saying?

[Kim Chi]

You know, everyone who does, like, yoga or stretching, they're like, your hips are so, like, flexible. I'm like, is it.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, girl, I can't. Can you. Can you sit crisscross applesauce for a long time?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not that long.

[Monet X Change]

No. No. I can do maybe five minutes. Maybe five.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So have you tried to do a split?

[Kim Chi]

You know, I actually can do the split. Oh, I just don't do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna say. Cause if you're doing this, I feel like you can do a split.

[Kim Chi]

I can. I just don't do it.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Can you do. Can you do front to back and, like, a side? Like a.

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have to bust this out one time. Yes, one time. It works hotter and hotter, but shut it down.

[Monet X Change]

No, because.

[Kim Chi]

I don't know. I think. Because we would always, like, make fun of, like, big girls that do the splits. You know, they're like.

[Monet X Change]

You know, the splats?

[Kim Chi]

And I was just like, all right, I'm never going to be that girl, like, the big girl doing the splits at the club.

[Monet X Change]

But now you're no longer the big girl.

[Kim Chi]

I know, but now I don't want to do it out of protest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would say, big girls don't do the splits. Big girls do the splats.

[Monet X Change]

You know, every time it's thing we do It. Tammy spanks well. Yes, but Ms. Recently baptized for five. Baptized.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Eureka.

[Monet X Change]

Eureka. But she can do this with her knee or her elbow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, it's kind. When Eureka hits that split and then leans over, puts that fist on her chin and knee on the elbow. On the knee. That is. That is kind. You cannot argue. That's not fucking good. And then the Swiffer, when they start bopping it around the stage.

[Monet X Change]

The Swiffer. I love you naming these the Swiffer.

[Kim Chi]

What's the Swiffer?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like when, you know, when they hit the splits and they start scooting around. They scoot and they clean. They squeegee.

[Kim Chi]

I call it a humping the floor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, humping the floor. It's a fucking. It's a brilliant, iconic movie.

[Monet X Change]

So, Kim, since you've seen both of us drive, who would you say is a better driver?

[Kim Chi]

You're both. I know the whole point of the podcast is you guys fighting, but you guys are both really good drivers.

[Monet X Change]

No, that's not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We are both good drivers. I mean, I don't really get a lot of complaints about my driver.

[Kim Chi]

I have to give credit where it's due. You guys are both great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you.

[Monet X Change]

I would say Bob is a way more cautious driver than me, though. Like, Bob, you drive pretty cautiously.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I feel like. I feel like you've driven with me driving more than I with you driving. So back in the day, I mean, now that we're. Now I feel like you're in my car more than I'm in your car.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I guess. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I. But I've. I've never. Honestly, I have literally never felt unsafe with Monet driving, ever. Monet is a really good driver. Monet used to be my personal chauffeur in New York City. You're not allowed to have a car in New York City.

[Kim Chi]

Monet also picked me up from the airport. And when someone picked you up from the airport in a big, like, city like New York or like Los Angeles, like, that's real love.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I picked up Bob from the airport in la, but he just conveniently forgot that I did it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When did you do this?

[Monet X Change]

I picked you up twice on the other.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, who was it? Me. From a gig. Was I by myself?

[Monet X Change]

Kennedy, you were by yourself. There's no one else. I don't remember why, but I picked you up twice in the airport. Here. I don't remember why.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Twice.

[Monet X Change]

Twice. Okay.

[Kim Chi]

La. Picking on someone from an lax, that is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love picking people from the airport. It's One of my favorites. You like what I love and I've already picked money up.

[Monet X Change]

But she refused.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She turned me down. That is true. I've offered to pick you from the airport several times.

[Monet X Change]

It also just coordinating it. Like you have to like text me like I'm at pole, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'd rather just call my car.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I will say this though.

[Monet X Change]

Sometimes I get like, depending on like I came back from somewhere, I had like. And Ty wasn't coming back with me, so I had like four bags. Why do I have so many bags anyway?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Drag bitch.

[Monet X Change]

No, I only travel with 2.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

4.

[Monet X Change]

I must have been. I don't remember why I would have had four bags anyway, but. So normally when I get off at Delta, I'm like, it's just easier to walk to Uberland as opposed to waiting for the shuttle. Da da da. But with four bags, I'm like, I don't wanna walk with that. I don't wanna go on the shuttle with it. So I just call a. A black. Because that's the only way you get picked up at the curbside and uber black. Now it's like when you pick it up from curbside, it's like almost $200. Yeah. So I have people, Ubers that have called before to give me their cars, like black cars. I just now, before I get there, they charge you 125 and they pick you up and drop you off at home and you just text them, I can give you the number.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think one day I want to try to take one of those cars they offer you from jfk. Oh, the people, the random people. You need a ride? I've never. I've never.

[Monet X Change]

I don't believe it is.

[Kim Chi]

I've taken one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And how was your experience?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, not good. They like really overcharged me.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wait, what do you mean? Like the random guys?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I was like, you want to ride?

[Monet X Change]

No, but.

[Kim Chi]

But you.

[Monet X Change]

You got to get your price before you get in the car though.

[Kim Chi]

That's. Yeah, I didn't even know that. I just like, I hopped in thinking they were like a regular cab, but they weren't. They were like a private cab.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. And they like quoted me $400.

[Monet X Change]

You should have said no to Manhattan.

[Kim Chi]

No to Brooklyn.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Well, here's the thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not in Brooklyn.

[Monet X Change]

It's the Queens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but it's like, it's like. It's right by Brooklyn.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I will say this. So when I used to work in New York City at the Yale Club in New York City. I was. I was. I was at work, and this woman comes in and she. She's like, oh, my God. She was from, I don't know, Michigan.

[Kim Chi]

Whatever.

[Monet X Change]

Sorry. No, I know Kim's from Michigan. She was from somewhere in the Midwest. She's like, well, you know, let's take a break. I'll tell you about this story when we come back.

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[Monet X Change]

So I'm at the Yale Club. This woman comes, she's like, hey, like, getting from JFK is so expensive here. We're like, well, you know, there's a. Cause, y' all know in New York City, there's a thing where if you go to jfk, there's a fixed price.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The flat rate.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's supposed to be a flat rate. And she said, what is a flat rate? You have to let them know that they should have offered you that. She was like, yeah, well, it was $300. And I. And I. And then she tipped them on top of that. I was like, that is so nice, the flat rate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like I don't hear much about the flat rate anymore, but the flat rate is great if you live in Manhattan, it's great if you live in the Bronx, it's great if you live in Staten island, if you live in Queen, Queens, it's the same. It's the same price.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So the flat rate, what you pay to go to. From Jamaica, Queens to jfk, which is. Or for the. Is the same price you'll pay if you go to Staten island, which is absolutely insane.

[Monet X Change]

I wasn't doing about Chicago, is how cheap it is. So much cheaper than Chicago is cheap.

[Kim Chi]

I know. I always tell everyone, like, if you're an up and coming artist, Chicago is probably the best city to live in because you have access to all those things that's made your city gets. But living cost is so much slower, easier to get around.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, like, Uber's there. I was there recently. Ubers are like, Literally a quarter of the price of any Ubers in la. I'm like, la and New York, the Ubers are getting wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Swixman's like, Cam, is the Chicago Beach a real beach?

[Kim Chi]

Yes and no. They're lake beaches.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you.

[Kim Chi]

But you're not going to get swept away and you're not going to get, like, stung by like a jellyfish. A jellyfish? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, if you. In Coney island, you'll step on a hypodermic needle.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, that could also happen in Chicago beaches too.

[Monet X Change]

But what's at the bottom is. So when you get in the water, is the bottom. No. Is it sand or is it mud? Because in the lake the bottom is mud. It's not sand. So that's what trips me out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think he's been to the bottom of the lake.

[Monet X Change]

No, when you. No, when you. I'm saying at the Chicago beach, that's

[Kim Chi]

the part where, like, people will be like, stepping in on will be sand.

[Monet X Change]

Sand. Like, so when you, like, walk into water, it's sand down there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. It's probably man made, though.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If they're sand, it's more than likely man made.

[Kim Chi]

I believe, like, Chicago has like, over like 30 different beaches, like along Lakeshore.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wow.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. The city of beaches.

[Kim Chi]

And then each of them are, like, different themed. There's like a dog beach, there's a gay beach.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's the gay dog beach.

[Monet X Change]

Now, y' all are both not gay dog owners.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know if Cody, you have a dog? Yeah, kind of low key. My partner has a dog and Cody's. Yeah, his name is Cody. You'll meet him.

[Kim Chi]

He's okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ta's walking them right now. But you'll, you'll meet. Everyone loves Cody. Cody's is a lovely. And your dog is obviously great. Everyone loves your dog.

[Kim Chi]

Everyone loves, like, not to be that person that talks about their dog in, like, this way. But, like, he is the best dog.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is your dog on your screensaver?

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is he really? The butter is cute and his ears are huge.

[Monet X Change]

Butter is very cute.

[Kim Chi]

But he, like, never pees and poofs inside the house. He's like, well behaved. He's good with children. He's good with other dogs.

[Monet X Change]

But it's very cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Potato tried to eat.

[Kim Chi]

When I'm like, getting like, ready to go out, butter sees me. And then he'll just go to his crate and sit down.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Kim Chi]

And then when I come back and I don't even lock the crate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you train him yourself?

[Kim Chi]

No. I hired a trainer who.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's probably why.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

If I. If I had a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you want to shout out your trainer? If anyone wants to.

[Kim Chi]

Her name is Colleen Morita. She's an amazing lady. I don't know where you're gonna find her on social media, but she's great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Obviously, Butter is very. What's up, Jacob?

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

How did you choose him?

[Kim Chi]

How did I choose him?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Butter.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

So around the pandemic time, none of the shelters, like, had dogs because everyone was, like, adapting like crazy. So I was like, all right, I guess I'll have to go to the breeder route, you know, which I don't. You, like, us support you, but at

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the time, Desperate times call for desperate measures.

[Monet X Change]

So what's on your screen saver?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's factory settings. Oh, my screen saver is always. I. I never changed the. Well, I. I. I had a picture of me as a clown on my last phone, but that was. That was every other phone I've ever had. My background is always fact.

[Kim Chi]

Okay, so when drag queens have, like, a. Photos of themselves as, like, a background saver, do you think it's narcissistic or do you think it's self love?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If it's a. I think it's kind of. Kind of if it's a cute picture. I mean, I don't have a lot of thoughts about it, to be honest. I thought about recently switching my background to this character named Heimerdinger from the game League of Legends because I'm obsessed with legal Legends right now. I can't believe you never played legal Legends.

[Monet X Change]

We talked about that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm so gagged.

[Kim Chi]

I tried playing it once, and I didn't get it. And then everybody there like that I was playing against was way too good. So I'm like, all right, I'm not gonna try to learn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is pretty toxic.

[Monet X Change]

That's a Hill Marvel rival.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So think about switching it. I'm thinking about switching it to a picture of Heimerdinger from League of Legends, but. And yours is what? Your background, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, it's of my fiance. Let me see. Or a toast after we got engaged.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, he's drinking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow, that's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, look what I could do to a man, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So one of my favorite things about Kim is when I found out that Kim is actually a graphic designer. So this will lead us into talking about your. Because I didn't tell Himachi in the library.

[Kim Chi]

Avengers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Two books.

[Kim Chi]

Two books. I know it's kind of crazy how that happened, but it Just, I got two different book deals at two different times. And then the post, you were like, fight over it? No, not even. It just ended up coming at the same time, which, like, it's crazy because people are like, what kind of book did you release? I'm like, well, there's two books.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you do the graphic design for your book?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. Because I was. I remember thinking, like, Kim probably would graphic design the whole fucking book.

[Kim Chi]

I thought about it, but I'm just like. Like, I haven't done graphic design in, like, 10 years, so let me just leave it to the professionals.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, so do. So, wait, you worked in, like, graphic design, like, professionally?

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Oh.

[Kim Chi]

I was doing stuff for, like, hotels and restaurants.

[Monet X Change]

Really? Like, designing spaces and lobbies and helping them. Like.

[Kim Chi]

No, no, that's interior design.

[Monet X Change]

Sorry. For, like, logos and, like, stuff like that. Got it. So did you design.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So clothes? That's. That's fashion design.

[Monet X Change]

Did you design your kimchi logo?

[Kim Chi]

Kimchi logo? No, I did not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I mean, she's. She's saying she leaves the pros now, because I imagine if you haven't done it for 10 years, baby, when you log back in the interface, there have been times where I tried to use, like, GarageBand, but I took a break. I don't recognize the whole interface has changed.

[Kim Chi]

Programs are always, like, changing. There's, you know, like.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, so. Donate to Hamachi at a library Avengers. Tell us about her.

[Kim Chi]

Okay, so that whole thing came from a tweet. I was up in my feelings, like, reading, like, articles about how a lot of public libraries are getting defunded. So then I tweeted about how much the public libraries meant to me. And then that tweet kind of, like, blew up in the library community. And then all these librarians from all around the world were messaging me saying, thank you so much for speaking up for us.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love librarians too.

[Kim Chi]

People, like, don't care about the library.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob, you.

[Monet X Change]

You speak. What do you have to say for yourself now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's up? A bit. It was not a bit to abolish libraries. I was joking.

[Kim Chi]

The villain in the book is actually inspired by Bob Blob the Dragon. Who is this evil villain that wants to tear down the library to build a mall?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Kim texted me, was like, now would be a good time. Kim was like, now would be a good time to tell you that there's a character, but you didn't tell me that it was the villain.

[Monet X Change]

Is it really?

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, it's.

[Monet X Change]

That is everything to me. That makes me so happy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To those of you who don't know, I made a. I was saying a while back, I was saying a point that led to a joke was like, I think maybe the space in libraries could be more. Because they're gigantic. Libraries are usually really huge. Especially when I was living in New York City. I would walk by these massive libraries, like, maybe this space could be used more efficiently. And then I jokingly said, you know what? Abolish libraries. Obviously, I don't. I've toured libraries myself since then. I grew up going to the library all the time. I went through my. My origami phase.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, my God. Do you know that I'm also really good at origami?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. I took origami lessons for four years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Could you grab a piece of paper, Jacob or Taylor or somebody? Four years. I think that I can make a crane right now.

[Monet X Change]

I can make any.

[Kim Chi]

I can make a lot of things right now.

[Monet X Change]

I can't make a single thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I went through a phase where I was obsessed with origami, and I would get these origami books, and I would practice. Let me see.

[Kim Chi]

I. I mean, I'll take one, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, money. You have to do something.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, I got y'.

[Kim Chi]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I got y'.

[Kim Chi]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's crazy, but, yeah. So, I mean, I. I. So, Kim, did you, like, grow up growing to libraries and stuff?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, for sure. So obviously, our family was really poor, like, growing up, so I never got to go to, like, summer camp and anything like that. So during summertime, I will go to. I would, like, walk my ass over to the local library, and I would use their computers, check out the magazines, rent their CDs, and then bring it onto my computer, screaming. I know, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pirate. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Because there's so many resources at a library.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That allow you to do illegal activities like pirate.

[Kim Chi]

And then our summer library also had a program where if you read five books, you get a voucher for, like, a bagel and cream cheese from a bagel shop next door.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, fair.

[Kim Chi]

So I would read so many books, and that's how I feel myself, both.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, being able to, like, eat off of gaining knowledge is kind of brilliant.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, yeah, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So.

[Kim Chi]

And then I eventually became, like, involved with, like, the local public libraries where I was, like, in the young adult, like, advisory board.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Kim Chi]

Like, you know, helping them decide, like, which book they're gonna order. I helped, like, organize, like, the library's, like, anime festival.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wow, girl. Like, you, like, like, legit. Were, like, Part of, like, the.

[Kim Chi]

The library community. Yeah. Oh, libraries are very important to me. And. And people don't realize, like, it's not just a place where you can, like, rent books, but it's also a great community resource. If you don't speak English, the librarians will help you fill out job applications.

[Monet X Change]

And so which is why. So which is why when Bob said those words on the podcast, it really hurt you because you're someone who is.

[Kim Chi]

And I was like, you know what? I will expose Bob in my own way again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was a bit. But I do say, in all reality, I used to go to the library. I walked to the library all the time as a kid. The library in Morrow, Georgia, or maybe it might have been Ellenwood, but it was a Clayton county library. It was a really interesting shape, actually. The building looked like origami. The library itself kind of looked like. Can you pull up a picture of the library in Ellenwood, Georgia, Jacob? This is the library I used to walk to once a week. And it was right next to a place called Zing Wings. Zing Wings was right next door to the library. So I would try to get some money. That is not. Oh, that's not.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, that's not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Type in the old one. Apparently there's a new library now, but they used to be, like, a really interesting shaped library. But also, that building was. It was old when I used to go to it back in the day. So, yeah, they probably. Oh, my God, is it. Did they destroy it? Did they abolish that library?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, no. I wonder who had an influence on it.

[Monet X Change]

I know. I wonder. I wonder why they decided to do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did. On part of my book tour, I went to one of the public libraries in Atlanta, Georgia, and did a whole thing there for them. So, yeah, guys, I say a lot of stuff. I make a lot of yuk yucks. So if you any. Oh, did you know Reading Rainbow's back?

[Kim Chi]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Is it.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

With LeVar Burton? No, not with LeVar Burton.

[Kim Chi]

So, Bob, are there any librarians or libraries that you want to apologize to using your platform?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I want to apologize to the. The Reading Rainbow community. The new host of Reading Rainbow. His name is Jacob. Pull up right now. He's actually. He's actually like a tiktoker who. Who went viral for his love for books. And he. And he also was very open about. I believe he's very open about being on the spectrum. And a lot of people were real. Michael. Michael Threets. He was. And he just loves he's just a guy who just fucking loves books. Like, he's obsessed with books. And he's honestly really, really, really charming. And I just. It's kind of gaggy that Reading Rainbow is back.

[Monet X Change]

Honestly, I never watched Reading Rainbows. I don't know what the premise of the show is. You're just sitting in a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a book club. Oh, and Reading Rainbow is a book club.

[Monet X Change]

And everyone in the world is reading this book or the kids.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So each week, LeVar Burton would rec a book or a couple of books, and he'd be like, this book. This week we're talking about the book, yada, yada, yada. Or this. Talking about this book. And then they would review the books together. Or, like, they would do animations from the book. So it. It was basically just a book club for kids.

[Monet X Change]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. Should you do a book club?

[Monet X Change]

Bob's Book Club.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

You do?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We only read two books. We read. We read Afropessimism.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we read. This great book by this brilliant author named Harriet Tubman live in concert. And I mean, we don't do it. We don't do them. We don't do them. Every single month. I'm trying to decide what our next book should be, but I think maybe we. We figured it out. Maybe we figured. Okay, if we do it, will you come to the Patreon and, like, be part of the review?

[Kim Chi]

You know, I'll say yes to anything you do, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, and Kim, honestly, Kim is a real one. Kim really?

[Monet X Change]

Well, is a real. Wait, what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was.

[Monet X Change]

It was.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, no, we can talk about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You had to be there for it.

[Monet X Change]

Tell me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, well, Kim, you want to talk about it?

[Kim Chi]

I mean, why don't you say yours? Because I have the story.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so Kim, me and Naomi are going to review the All Star Seven finale 10 finale. And then we were.

[Monet X Change]

I do remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We all watched the episode, and then

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Kim said, we got matching outfits made.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, we got matching outfits. We all had matching outfits. It was gonna be real cute, cutting and coined. And then Kim was like, I don't know that I have too much nice to say about this episode. So I think it's best for me to shut my ass up.

[Kim Chi]

You know, it's just they say if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything.

[Monet X Change]

Don't say anything at all. Fierce. And you better than me. Are you making a bowl?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm making a crane. I haven't done it in a while. This Part is kind of hard for me, but I'm getting there. What are you making?

[Monet X Change]

Honey?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is a flower. That is honestly incredible.

[Monet X Change]

You want to guess what mine is?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it. It's a 747. That's a spirit. That's a Spirit airline.

[Monet X Change]

It's a Boeing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A Boeing 747.

[Kim Chi]

It's going down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A Boeing, Airbus.

[Monet X Change]

Airbus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you know the difference in a Boeing?

[Kim Chi]

Do you ever, like, you see, like, a flight book, then you check and see, like, what aircraft carrier it is, and you see it. It's like a Boeing 373. And you're like.

[Monet X Change]

You're like, the doors are gonna fly on this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So let's talk a little bit about Kimchi eats the world.

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what brought about? Which. Which one? Which? Well, in fact, let's take a break first.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so we're back. Okay, so kimchi eats the world. So this one is you going around the world and talking about different cuisines that you like, that you've made or that you want to try or like how?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, all of the above. So each recipe, it's almost like an autobiography in a way, where I share my story on, like, why that recipe's there. So the whole book was conceived because during pandemic, I couldn't travel the world anymore, and I couldn't eat all this delicious food. So then I started recreating these dishes that I ate on my travels in my American kitchen.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, fierce.

[Kim Chi]

So it's basically like a love letter. I'm not trying to, like, colonize any dishes, but it's more like introducing everyone to some of my favorite global cuisine that I've eaten around the world.

[Monet X Change]

I will say, y', all, Kim is. When it comes to food, Kim is a wealth, a fountain of resources and information. You are going to a city because you've been to so much of the world, and you like Kim, girl, I'm in Paris, and I'm looking for, like, a good restaurant. She'll send you a thing like, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no, no Googling off top of the dome.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. She's like, okay, what kind of food do you want? What kind do you like? Do you have any? Da, da, da. And Kim will send you five restaurants and be like, well, you should go here if you want this. Go to this if you want this. Well, here. And it's like a detailed fucking dossier of what food you.

[Kim Chi]

You should eat, because everyone has, like, a different palette and different expectations. So what. What I think is going to be the best for me is might not be the best for you, you know? So I try to, like, consider everyone's, like, palette and, like, their needs in mind when I recommend and make suggestions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's your last meal?

[Kim Chi]

My last meal?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your last. Not the last one you had, but

[Kim Chi]

like, oh, the very.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, you, You.

[Kim Chi]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You get to plan out your last meal. What is your last meal?

[Kim Chi]

Fresh cooked rice.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Kim Chi]

Spam. Grilled, crispy.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I love spam.

[Kim Chi]

3 Sunny side Egg and a bowl of kimchi. Very simple, but it's like my ultimate comfort food.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you can make that yourself?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's just eggs and Spam.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Is there a specific kimchi, like, from a place or like a recipe, a type?

[Kim Chi]

I like cabbage kimchi that's been like, fermented just like a week and chilled. I feel like green onion kimchi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it? Is it? I feel like you say it's like, it's like, easy, whatever, but, like, I feel like notoriously sunny side up eggs are really hard to cook, and I feel like rice is sunny side egg. Do you know about the. The rice wars on Tick Tock?

[Kim Chi]

Wait, what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. The rice war, girl. You don't know about the rice wars?

[Kim Chi]

What's the rice war?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. Do you wash it? Do you not wash it? How many times do you wash it?

[Monet X Change]

Do you.

[Kim Chi]

Why is it even a debate? You, of course you wash the rice

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and then there's like, do you use the. Do you use a rice cooker? How much rice do you put of salt in it? I think it's like different cultures being like, well, this is how we cook rice. This how we cook rice. Do you use chicken broth? Do you use water?

[Kim Chi]

You know, I say if you're making rice for yourself, cook it however you wanted to.

[Monet X Change]

Do you wash your rice?

[Kim Chi]

You know, I don't understand why people are like, fighting online about, like, if you don't want to wash your rice, that's you, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I mean, I don't. I don't cook rice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You never cook rice?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, like, when I was like, oh, I. I've not cooked rice in easily 10, 10, 12 years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob went through a rice phase. Jacob was really in his cooking rice bag.

[Kim Chi]

What made you stop?

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

What made me stop? Oh, honestly, I was just eating the same thing over and over again. It was. It wasn't just rice. I was like, having rice and like, salmon. I. It was like an easy meal that I can make and was good. But then I just like, had it like, every day for like, three months. And then I was like, it's time to diverse. I'm not like a great cook. Like there are like five dishes I can do like passively well and then I get sick of them and move on to the next one.

[Kim Chi]

Like those hyper fixation meals.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then he had his, his, his egg era.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Oh yeah. I can make really good omelettes.

[Monet X Change]

Well, every time I want like there, there are some like Asian dishes that I like to make and. But so like for example, when I want to make sticky rice. Not sticky rice. When you put the tuna rice. No, spicy, like, like a spicy tuna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then.

[Monet X Change]

But so a lot of them call for. You have to make the rice. It has to sit for like a day or in the fridge for a day. Then you take it out and then make it all the ones I've seen. I'm like, I can't. I want to like make it now.

[Kim Chi]

Are you talking about like the crispy rice?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, sorry, Crispy rice. Yes. But so you had to like make the rice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You mean it's like, it's like.

[Monet X Change]

What do you mean it's crisp?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like it's literally crispy. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So you make the rice, it sits in the fridge or whatever like for a day, then you take it out and then you like that. And then you have to. That looks delicious. Oh, it's amazing. And I want to make stuff like that, but I'm like, girl, I don't have, I don't have the thing to be like, okay, I'm going to make the rice. Rice today for tomorrow.

[Kim Chi]

Okay. So I have just a thing for you. When you go to Asian grocery stores, they sell individually pre made rice and all you have to do is just take the individual pack and throw in the microwave for two minutes and then it's hot and fresh. So many of the Korean people all have like decent. Their pantries. Because really not everyone wants to cook like big things of rice every time. You can just get individual servings.

[Monet X Change]

So just go to a Korean supermarket.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Or any Asian supermarket.

[Kim Chi]

Picture of what it looks like. They're called like hepban. And it's individually portioned cooked rice. Girl.

[Monet X Change]

When Kim and I went to South Korea, going to South Korea with kimchi

[Bob the Drag Queen]

is never got the invite.

[Monet X Change]

We were working.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Naomi got the invite.

[Kim Chi]

You know, you were doing your own gigs. You know, we were still on the.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, we were working the world.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh boy.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

I never.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Kim, Naomi did get the invite. Naomi got the like the exclusive. Kim.

[Monet X Change]

Oh yeah, yeah, I have. I haven't gotten that yet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That One is like, all right, I'm ready to reveal. I know y' all have already built yours, but. All right. This is my crane.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I'm actually very impressed by that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I should spread it.

[Monet X Change]

Look at you.

[Kim Chi]

There it is.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There we go.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Does it fly?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Cranes. I don't. Mine doesn't fly. I'm sure someone out there can make one that flies fly, fly. Mine, however. Yeah, exactly. Does not.

[Monet X Change]

I am very impressed, actually. It's almost like a. What's the dinosaur with, like, the long neck? A stegosaurus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A brontosaurus.

[Monet X Change]

Sure.

[Kim Chi]

I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

It's giving. Brontosaurus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

That's very impressive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So there she is.

[Monet X Change]

She also, like, it's almost like a double sided dildo. Like, both sides could be a crane. Like, let me see. Like, if you told me. Oh, this is.

[Kim Chi]

How do you get a double sided dildo of that where you're like, oh,

[Monet X Change]

like, oh, this is the head. Like, that's the crane. If you almost told me this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, this is the head.

[Monet X Change]

That's the tail. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So the head and the tail are actually the exact. This is how you bend it. So the tail, you bend it lower, and then the head, you put it higher and you bend it down. But they're. Other than that. They are literally the exact same.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's very good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the exact same.

[Monet X Change]

I'm very impressed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that was from. I learned that from the library in Clayton County.

[Kim Chi]

Support your local libraries.

[Monet X Change]

What is one of your favorite recipes from the book?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, there's anchovy pasta that I like.

[Monet X Change]

Anchovies are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you can't. Yuck.

[Monet X Change]

People's young.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, like that you covered your mouth in.

[Monet X Change]

No, just anchovies. I just don't fuck with anchovies. Anchovies are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Eat anchovies more than you know you do. I.

[Monet X Change]

It's. It's Caesar style. It's. But I. I've never had like a. Maybe like once or twice I've had.

[Kim Chi]

So it's not just the pasta. The anchovies just like dissolved in the sauce. It just gives like a light, salty umami.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't even taste like a place that always has. I think. I didn't know until someone mentioned, I think Little Caesars, their crust has anchovies in it.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think maybe Little Caesars. It's Little caesars with little $5 pizzas.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're. It might be Papa John, but there's some place that for like all their crust has anchovies in it. And you never. But like, anchovies is in more things than you realize.

[Kim Chi]

Ugh.

[Monet X Change]

Anchovies I don't like. But I will say this, so can you please explain? Andy and I go on this all the time. I'm doing the Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm hitting you what is.

[Monet X Change]

Because, you know, umami is like a flavor. It's, like, salty. It's like sweet umami.

[Commercial/Advertisement Voice]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

But I cannot tell you what umami like. I can describe salty. I can describe sweet. I cannot describe umami. Like, what does umami taste like? Or what is. Do you know what it is?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I've had umami things, but I don't have. First of all, I do not have a refined palate. So, like, for me, I'll be eating something really bad, and it'll taste as good as when it's really good.

[Kim Chi]

It's like a savory flavor. Okay. Imagine you, like, bite into a rind of parmesan.

[Monet X Change]

Parmesan. Okay.

[Kim Chi]

You know, like that, like, savory.

[Monet X Change]

Feel the rind specifically.

[Kim Chi]

No, I don't know. I'm just.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Kim Chi]

Got it into my mind.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Or even if you just, like, bite into, like, a piece of tomato, you know, you get, like, a little, like, savory.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Like, I don't know.

[Commercial/Advertisement Voice]

I don't.

[Monet X Change]

I. I can't. Like, I can't. In my brain, I can't pinpoint the taste of umami. Like, Jake, can you a mushroom read

[Bob the Drag Queen]

what Google says umami is? Let's see, what. What does Google say umami is? It does seem really hard to. You got to make it big, baby.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

I cannot. Oh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, we're not.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

I'm gonna find a dictionary that Google

[Bob the Drag Queen]

AI isn't gonna be a good summary. Got it, got it, got it, got it.

[Kim Chi]

Gang, gang.

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, mama.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, what's your last meal, Monet?

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, my last meal. I'm getting the fried chicken from Brassica in Boston. And y'. All. I know. And I was like, boston Fried Chicken? The fried chicken at the restaurant Brassica in Boston is some. When we. If we are ever in Boston together, we have to go to Brassica. Kim is one of the best meals I've ever had.

[Kim Chi]

Okay.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Wow.

[Monet X Change]

The menu is so good. And they change it every season, and it's like, it's good. It's not the cheapest place, but it is such good food.

[Kim Chi]

Should you go to P Town next year and stop at Boston on the way?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I, I, We.

[Monet X Change]

We. I haven't been to P Town in, like, two years. I'LL be down to go to P Town.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It wasn't a hot minute. I've been to Beach.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, we were there together.

[Kim Chi]

Should you go to P Town?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That would be great. Actually, I would love to go to pizza.

[Monet X Change]

I'll be down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I.

[Monet X Change]

Wait. I wasn't finished the Brassica Fried chicken.

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, it's my last meal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's the last one you're gonna get.

[Monet X Change]

I want some type of macaroni and cheese from somewhere that's like, my favorite macaroni. Actually, you know what? My mom, I want her to make my macaroni and cheese and some oxtails.

[Kim Chi]

Wait, do you like egg in your Mac and cheese or no, no. Do you like Mac and cheese? That's more, like, together or, like, creamy and, like, runny.

[Monet X Change]

So because I'm West Indian, we like. We call it. We actually call it macaroni pie. And it's more together. It's not like the gooey cream.

[Kim Chi]

So your Mac and cheese is not as sweet as St. Lucia.

[Monet X Change]

That's my last meal.

[Commercial/Advertisement Voice]

Meal.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. What about you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My last meal will probably be a Domino's pizza. No, I do like Domino's Pizza, but it probably wouldn't be. My last meal would probably be chicken wings. I like. I would have buffalo wings. I would like them to be fried. I like to be battered and fried.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, you like battered wings?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I like both.

[Kim Chi]

It's okay if you do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like both. I. I like both. Most wing places don't have battered wings, but I do like a battered wing. I would do probably a 20 piece. It'd be half buffalo and half lemon pepper, but the lemon pepper would be naked. They would not be battered.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then I would have a shit ton of ranch. I would have some seasoned french fries and a lemonade.

[Kim Chi]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I would be so happy.

[Kim Chi]

From Wingstop or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, not so. I actually don't love Wingstop wings, actually.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Thank you for saying that. I ordered it the other day, and you know when you have. When I have a meal from somewhere and something about it was wrong, it would taint my experience forever. I ordered Wingstop about six months ago, and I don't know, something was wrong with this batch of wings. But, like, every. After each bite, every. Each wing, it had, like, a weird.

[Kim Chi]

A weird chicken. Eat chicken.

[Monet X Change]

And I was like, oh, my God, I can never eat wings from here

[Kim Chi]

when it's, like, not fresh.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. I think that's what it was. So I could never have a wing stop wing ever again because my. I was like, it was disgusting.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, my God. So when I was just on tour, I was, like, craving wings really bad. So I ordered 20 pieces of wings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wings.

[Monet X Change]

Her Wingstop.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. And I think I got someone else's order because I got 80 wings, and it was just like, so many wings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you call the crew?

[Kim Chi]

So I asked everyone, like, in the group text, like, does anyone want wings? And we're like, no. Like, we're, like, out eating dinner. It's like, no one wants, like, these wings. So then I just, like, put it in my refrigerator, and I just never went back to it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would say eating old wings is actually not that bad.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Something about, like, like, if wings get cold, I could eat, eat. I could eat old.

[Kim Chi]

We could toss it in the air fryer. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, I mean, I, I, I'm gonna. My hot take is this. Actually, this is not a hot take. This is a super valid take.

[Monet X Change]

When you say old, you mean, like, in the fridge cold and like, like pizza. You eat out the fridge cold?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Or if it's, if it's just on the counter, I'll go back and eat it. I. Popeye's wings are great.

[Kim Chi]

I don't think I've ever had them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Popeye's wing, the signature hot is fantastic. I do not do Popeyes. Lemon pepper wings. Those are not good because they're breaded. You can't. Breading lemon pepper wings is crazy in my humble opinion.

[Monet X Change]

Also, batter. Like, if you, if you, if it's a lemon pepper sauce. I mean, that's not real lemon pepper. I think dry rub lemon pepper is the best way. How many, how many wings? Like, if you. By yourself and having, like, you. I want to have enough wings to feel good. How many wings is that? Like, singles?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I would probably do either. This is a hard question to answer.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do I have a side?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's no fries.

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just wings. I really want fries with my wings. But you're prohibiting fries.

[Monet X Change]

I am prohibiting fries, but that's part

[Kim Chi]

of the experience for fries and wings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm gonna. For this social experiment, I'm gonna prohibit fries. 12.

[Kim Chi]

Okay. So for me, instead of fries, I love celery and carrots.

[Monet X Change]

I was gonna say that. That's good. Like, it's like a nice cookie.

[Kim Chi]

It's like a little crunchy and something fresh to, like, break up all that, like, grease. Yeah. How, how, how many for you, on a realistic level? 20.

[Monet X Change]

Same. I was going to say 20.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

12. 12. 12. I'm like, I want more or I'll do six wings and a giant thing of like. I mean, like the fries are like. It's the fries. Like.

[Kim Chi]

And do you dip the fries in ranch too?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do I dip the fries in ranch? I would dip my lemonade in the ranch. Yes. I want everything covered in ranch.

[Monet X Change]

Ranch, yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Blue cheese is worse at.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, blue cheese is great.

[Monet X Change]

I'm a ranch girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Blue cheese is greatness. Blue cheese belongs on salads. Ranch belongs for dipping.

[Kim Chi]

But mango habanero wings. Yes. Blue cheese.

[Monet X Change]

I will agree with that. Also got this. So I had to, you know, I'm gonna do a thing, a video on my house. So I've gotten really into making all these like protein rich foods. And I make a protein ranch. Yes.

[Kim Chi]

With a Greek yogurt.

[Monet X Change]

With Greek yogurt.

[Kim Chi]

Uh huh. And you thin it with a little bit of milk to get that like runny consistency.

[Monet X Change]

Almond milk. You put a little lemon juice in a minute. I know.

[Kim Chi]

And then you put in some like a little like grated garlic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, girl.

[Kim Chi]

And it is. And chives. You gotta have chive.

[Monet X Change]

I put dill in mind.

[Kim Chi]

Okay, that works too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I pick something up?

[Kim Chi]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Last night I was watching Monet's stream. You were streaming last night? And me and Taylor were watching it together. And then during the stream, Monet goes someone named Gavin. Gavin was like, I know Gavin. Cause Gavin comes to my lives too. Oh, Newsom. Gavin. Newsom.

[Monet X Change]

Gavin. Newsom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gavin was like, you should do a smash tournament. And Monet was like, what a great original idea. I think I will do a smash tournament.

[Monet X Change]

I did not say it's an original idea.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm being a little hard.

[Monet X Change]

That's a great idea, Gavin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you're like, yeah, I am. But then, you know, I was planning a smash tournament.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, Bob, Smash tournaments happen. Literally. You open your switch, they are always in the thing on the gc. Yes, you can go. If you open your thing and go

[Bob the Drag Queen]

to the playoff thing.

[Monet X Change]

If you open smash and you go to the yellow thing, there's always a thing of tournament. Tournament are happening all the time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just saying.

[Monet X Change]

You are not the inventor of smash tournaments, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just saying, you streaming a smash tournament is very interesting.

[Monet X Change]

You're not the inventor of smash tournaments.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're saying it's interesting.

[Monet X Change]

Anyways. Okay, wait. I was gonna say the sweet spot for me is I get an order of 18 wings. So I have three different sauces. I'll get a lemon pepper. I will get a barbecue or a teriyaki.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, why did barbecue. Barbecue wings.

[Kim Chi]

Barbecue wings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are like, it's not. It. That's really not. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

That's from where y' all order from.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, barbecue's not. No, no, no.

[Kim Chi]

But. But I support you on your wing journey.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Comment below what you think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, comment below. Barbecue wings is. Is.

[Kim Chi]

No, you know, it's not for me, but it's for you.

[Monet X Change]

And I want a spicy one. So I'll either get a mango habanero or something in that vein. That's, like, spicy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ooh, baby. Garlic parmesan wings.

[Monet X Change]

Garlic parmesan wings are good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you know a queen who's a really good cook?

[Kim Chi]

Do I know a queen who's, like, a really good cook from drag race queens or anyone? You know, I probably do. I just can't think of them. Top of my head.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think you're better cook than most of those girls? You can be. You don't have to.

[Monet X Change]

Kim is a really good cook.

[Kim Chi]

I'm a really good cook, so one that I've tasted. I'm sure there's, like, amazing queens that are good cooked, but we're rarely invited to, like, these queens homes. You know, this is really good to, like, taste. I'm sure they do amazing job.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apparently, Latrice and silky are really good.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, I believe it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Silky has. Silky has a book out.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, she does have a book.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apparently Silky is, like, the cook of all Jake legends.

[Kim Chi]

You know, big girls, they know how to eat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Big girls know how to eat girl. So I believe. I believe I know that Toki has a cookbook and. And, like, a drink book, too. No, I think it has cocktails in it, too. Ginger has a cookbook.

[Kim Chi]

There's, like, a random cocktail book where I'm undercover.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, like, you don't drink.

[Kim Chi]

I don't drink, and I, like, never knew about it, and I just see the book and I'm like, oh, that's clearly me undercover.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. Is you holding a giant martini? That's not a martini or a cosmo.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, I don't think, like, I've ever, like, signed up on it. I mean, whatever. Like, I'm not.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, your outfit is cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You by.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, but, you know, like, I don't drink, so I'm just like. This seems, like, so random.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, did you ever reach out to them?

[Kim Chi]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you want to. Do you want to call them out now?

[Kim Chi]

No. You know, like, I hope. I hope you sold a lot.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I'm in it, too. Go. Is that me? No, down.

[Kim Chi]

No, that's Trixie.

[Monet X Change]

To the right. To the right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Divine's in it. You think Divine signed off on it? Has a drink in there? I think I have a. I think I've seen.

[Monet X Change]

I think I have a drink in it as well, actually.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think you are in there, Monet.

[Monet X Change]

I really think I am.

[Kim Chi]

What if Monet wasn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's Monet's book. I think I remember me being in this book somehow. If my memory serves me properly. I believe it is.

[Kim Chi]

There's a whole Monet chapter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now. I have a question. How many times have you worked the

[Monet X Change]

world at this point?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think you are the current reigning work the world queen.

[Kim Chi]

I've done. Since day one.

[Monet X Change]

You've worked the most worlds, like, since day one.

[Kim Chi]

I've witnessed every single down. I've witnessed every drama, and I. Do you remember when we, like, refused to get dressed because we were, like, the first ones ready every show, and then we're like, we will not be getting dressed until everyone is fully dressed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Me, you, and Latrice were all on united front. So me, Kim and Latrice were like, we are sick of waiting. And I. I think you can imagine what. What queens were on this tour.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That we were sick of waiting.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we were like, we. We've had it.

[Kim Chi]

And we're not talking, like, 30, 40 minutes. We're taking, like, hours.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it. Huh? That was you, Monet? It was my new favorite. But so. So we were in. We were in Canada at the time. We were in Canada.

[Kim Chi]

It was Montreal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Montreal, yeah, we were in Montreal. And then we were just like, me, we had our. We had our makeup done, we had our hair on, but we didn't. I think I may have had my padding on or something.

[Kim Chi]

We were fully ready. Except the outfit.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

And the outfit's, like, right next to us.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we were like, we're not gonna get ready until they're ready. I'm not gonna get dressed until they start getting dressed. I literally refuse to get dressed if they're not getting dressed. And then that led into the next. Was that the one? Okay, this might. Whatever.

[Monet X Change]

We'll see.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But do you remember the work the World where Shangela was? We were in Orlando, Florida, and Shangela called this big meeting into the dressing room to have a conversation about, like, professionalism or something. I don't remember. And then Shangela had a gig over at Parliament House. And then we were like. We were headed to the. There's two buses. There's a dancer bus, and there's a queen bus or the queen bus, and everyone else, basically. So Shangela wanted to ride to the. To part of my house in a bus. Do you remember this at all?

[Kim Chi]

Yes, vaguely.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Shangela was like, I'm gonna take the bus to the thing. And we were like, no, we are loading the buses up. We need these buses. This is our home. Yes, we live on these buses. You can't take a bus to the gig.

[Kim Chi]

She's calling Uber.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But she wanted the continents of pulling up in a bus. And they were like, no, girl, you can't have the bus. So then she's out there talking to one of the drivers, and this driver was like. When I say his neck was red, like, this man was like. He had a thick, thick southern accent. And she ended up with this guy going, but she wants to take the dancer bus. So they're going back and forth, but we're still loading stuff onto it. They're going back and forth. Then she was like, baby, I'm taking this bus. And then he was like, well, he said, well, bitch. I remember him saying, well, bitch, I don't know how the fuck you gonna get this bus there if you don't know how to drive. Then Shangela's like, hold on now. And they're all going back and forth. So then he was like, well, bitch, you might get. And he said, well, bitch, you might get there, but it ain't gonna be on this bus. So then Shangela calls the Uber, and then all the queens show up, and we come on the bus. So then the driver is like, this will be great. So the driver takes all the other queens, and we all show up in our bus, and we're all getting off the bus, and it was like this whole. The whole.

[Monet X Change]

To do what? What is What? What? In your honest opinion, what was the best work the world you did in terms of theme of the show? And, like, the show?

[Kim Chi]

I'll say probably the best work the world that I did was with you. The planet, the planets. But also that one was just, like, really fun because the visor ride.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

And then we had our switch plugged.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

We'll play Smash.

[Kim Chi]

So we play, like, Smash Brothers, like, after, like.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Commercial/Advertisement Voice]

Yes.

[Kim Chi]

Like, when we were, like, ready every day. And then it was just, like, a fun cast of girls. Like, the vibes were great, and all the girls were, like, all professional.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Violet was there, but it was still fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can. I can honestly say that I filled in one time on that one for you, actually.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, in Paris.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. In Paris.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And it was. I remember being. I remember thinking to myself, when I was here, it was not this nice. I remember thinking to myself, baby, when I was here, this it.

[Monet X Change]

We did not have our girls.

[Kim Chi]

Now they're so spoiled compared to, like, some of the stuff that we had to go through. Like, they have, like, a roadie showcase that they, like, put all their, like, office on. So they don't even have to pack up the suitcase.

[Monet X Change]

No. And they also did.

[Kim Chi]

No. They don't even pack their, like, outfits away now. They just take it off and put in the floor, and then all the wardrobe people will take their outfits and, like, hang it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

People.

[Monet X Change]

Wardrobe people.

[Kim Chi]

I know, I know.

[Monet X Change]

On.

[Kim Chi]

On.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On. On what?

[Monet X Change]

The first year I did it was. The first year they. Well, they didn't introduce it. Like, it was kind of sort of happening where we had. Gio was fixing wigs, and I was

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like, Kenny was on it. Right?

[Monet X Change]

And Kenny was on it, too. I was like, oh, wow, someone fix your wigs. Y' all were like, girl, this is. This is a new addition.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe when Gio started doing wigs, I was. So Gio is also a queen. Who?

[Monet X Change]

Gio's a drag queen?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Gio's a queen. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I had no idea.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Gio was brought on through Asia o', Hara, and then he was at first just doing Asia's wigs. He was doing anyone's wig but Asia's wigs. And then Violet would drop a wig off, and then Naomi would drop a wig off.

[Kim Chi]

But then the girls got crazy. Of course, then they'll give them ratty. They'll give them, like, five wigs of style, but they wouldn't even wear it during the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was crazy.

[Kim Chi]

And then, like, oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For extra gigs.

[Kim Chi]

For extra gigs. And they'll just, like, take the wig.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm like, yeah, that was crazy.

[Kim Chi]

He's, like, literally styling, like, 40 wigs in, like, one day. And I'm like, you're not even using this wig. Why is he styling all of these?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And. And then. And then there were. There were. Then there was, like, maybe, like, three. There was, like, a little Joey, Kenny, and, like, Luis.

[Interviewer/Host/Other]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were the three people who were doing well.

[Monet X Change]

Louis and bj, Detox, assistant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He wasn't there for mine.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I, I. I never worked with. No, I did work with Detox. I did work with Detox.

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She did the Madonna number when she did.

[Kim Chi]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Erotic. Erotic. Put your hands on. That was a time where. Where Detox went crazy. Because we were in Madrid or Barcelona, and Valentina convinced. Convinced Brennan Voss to give her a second number.

[Monet X Change]

But no, in the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In the show. Do you remember this?

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And no one knew she was doing a second number.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Kim Chi]

Do you rem city where Valentina went to go do an interview? That.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was the same one.

[Kim Chi]

It was Barcelona and then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or Madrid was one of those two.

[Kim Chi]

And after coming from the interview, she was fully in drag. She got out of drag for no reason.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yep. Like, v. So this is what happened. So I was in the. I was. I'm. Let's just call it Madrid. I think it was. It was some. It was in Spain. I remember being in the elevator, headed to the venue, and then I just ran. I happened to run into Valentina in the elevator, and she had. She's like, can you put this belt on me, please? I was like, yeah, yeah. And she was in full drag. And I remember being like. I remember saying, like, valentina, I'm so proud of you. I cannot believe you're, like, in full drag.

[Kim Chi]

She's gonna be ready in time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. She's like, well, I have an interview, and I'm gonna be on time, and I'm working on it, yada, yada, yada. I was like, oh, my God, that's amazing. I put her. Her belt on. She went on her way, and I went on my way. We all went to go do the meet and greet. Valentina hadn't shown up yet. And then Valentina showed up to the venue out of drag, out of clothes or makeup, out of wig. She had. All she had on was her, like, most of her face.

[Monet X Change]

Face.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she had. She didn't have a wig on. She didn't have her body on. She was wearing, like, day clothes, no wig, and her face wasn't, like, done. It was like she wanted to redo something. She might wipe the lips or something. I don't know. Remember, something was something it wasn't. She wasn't finished. So then she had to get back into drag while we're at the meet and greet. And then we were doing the mean grid over on the side.

[Kim Chi]

First of all, we were in the dark. There was no lighting, so we were in complete pitch black. And then all of a sudden, we see the promoter go towards the middle of the room, turns on light, and then we see these, like, crazy lights being set up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, this is all true.

[Kim Chi]

And then here he comes, holding Valentina

[Bob the Drag Queen]

to a separate meet and greet space. And because this is. She has a big following in Madrid, everyone leaves Our meet and greet. They go, Valentina. So they're all running over to Valentina and we're over here in the complete

[Kim Chi]

dark in the wall and Valentina is on their spotlight.

[Monet X Change]

That's hilarious.

[Kim Chi]

Like fully glammed up all of a sudden.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So all the girls are hot. And then as I'm hosting, I get off stage and Brendan goes, oh, just so you know, Valentina don't go out with her number because she's gonna be doing an extra number.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So then Valentina performs her number, which is a beautiful number.

[Monet X Change]

This was, this was when y' all doing the, the, the, the, the flying one when she did like the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, she was doing Echelante where, where you. It was orange dress and you pull it out and then she has this like thing and it takes up like

[Kim Chi]

a lot of stage. Yeah, that was like the flying one.

[Monet X Change]

The flying one. The flying feed.

[Kim Chi]

Fly with me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Flying thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought you said she was flying. Because I know Aquari be flying now. So then the number's over. She talks to the crowd in Spanish and then a song just starts and Detox is waiting to go on. Detox is standing on the side and she's like, oh, she's talking. Okay. You know, no big deal. She's talking, baby. When that song started, Detox, Detox is wearing this like latex. The only thing you can see is her face.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, I remember that outfit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So it is incredibly hot.

[Kim Chi]

Uh huh.

[Monet X Change]

She is so she did Madonna. Best of sex or no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Erotic, Erotic, erotic. You put your hands.

[Kim Chi]

I think it was like a mega mix.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't remember. Summer Donna Mega mix.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she's. I mean, when I tell you Detox is. You can see the heat rising off of this outfit as she realized. Cuz you don't want to be up in your outfit longer than you have to.

[Monet X Change]

Especially latex.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So she went bananas. And I'm over here watching, I'm holding. I was ready to go back home. Like, this is insane. Yeah, it was crazy.

[Kim Chi]

When I tell you, like the backstage that day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Was like the most tense. Like everyone was like screaming at Valentina for like all the shenanigans. And then the fans broke into the dressing room.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right. I forgot about that.

[Kim Chi]

And be like, oh my God, Latrice, I love you. And then Latrice just goes, no, get out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cuz Latrice was hot.

[Monet X Change]

How did they break into the dressing room?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl, they just got. They just got.

[Kim Chi]

There was no security. They Just broke in gag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They just got in and then they started going off on the girls. And Latrice was.

[Kim Chi]

Was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I tell you Latrice lost it when Valentina Shadow had a private meet and greet. So Latrice was the first one to storm out of our meet and greet. And then we all were like, well, it. We're gonna leave. So we. We stormed out of the meet and greet because everyone left us to go take pictures of Valentina. And then Detox got mad when Valentine did her second number. And then backst. It was just like, oh, and then

[Kim Chi]

there was also the baby. We're all Madrid, remember?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, All Madrid. Like here all afternoon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cuz someone. Someone was like, well, no.

[Kim Chi]

So we were like assigned different cities and Valentino was like, you know, know, like Madrid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

So then backstage, Valentino goes like, I'm Madrid. You know, and then Shangela all of a sudden goes like, no, baby, we're all in Madrid together. We're all in Madrid. But Valentin's like, no, I'm Madrid. He's like, no, we're all in Madrid. This is not your show. It just like escalated out of nowhere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can. That was crazy. All right, so you have two books coming out. We have Donatella, Donatella Hamachi and the library revisions coming out on October 14th. And we have Kimchi Easter World coming out a week later.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. So by the time you're listening to this podcast, the books are probably out. But even if it's early or whatever, please pre order it because it helps us, you know, small alters a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where can they. Where can they get it from?

[Kim Chi]

Any. Any place where you can get fabulous books from.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There it is.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. The young adult novel Donitabamachin, the Library Avengers, and then Kimchi's the World is the cookbook. Streaming service have actually reached out saying they want to buy the film rights to.

[Monet X Change]

Oh my God, that's amazing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I play my character?

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Commercial/Advertisement Voice]

Thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Since it's my likeness, I think I will be playing Blob the drag thing. And those libraries are going down. And with that note, thank you for coming on our show. Give it up for Kimchi, everyone.

[Monet X Change]

Love you, Kim.

[Kim Chi]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Interviewer/Host/Other]

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