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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to Sibling Watchery. It is myself and my, one of my favorite queens. I love this bitch so much. Trinity the Tuck is back. I mean, sorry, Trinity Taylor. Wait, are you, you're Trinity Taylor now? Not Trinity the Tuck?
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I'm Trinity the Tuck. But okay, I, I, well, I say, I say girl, first of all, you can call me whatever girl. I've been called worse. It is what it is. But no, I always say, like, the Tuck is like my nickname. But I go by Trinity the Tuck. But Trinity Taylor is still like, you know, if I do, like, pageant stuff, like when I go back as a former to EOI do my walk, they always say Trinity Taylor. So. Oh, there's no right or wrong.
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Okay, word. Well, someone just said the holy twinity. I love that. The holy twinity.
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Yes, winners. That's fierce.
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Yes, winners. So today is Bob the Drag Queen's birthday, so she's, I think she was on an all night bender. She did a lot of cocaine and a lot of drugs, so she couldn't make the episode today. So thank, we're, we're, we're graced and blessed that we have Trinh for the win back on the episode last week. Last week's episode was very funny. You and Bob are very funny together.
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Bob is unhinged and he gets you. So Monet, I don't know how you do it. Everything's a trap, girl. Everything, girl. He pulled out trauma out of me that I've never told anybody about me being held back. Like, how does he do this? And then he tried to con me into helping him make a jean patchwork gown, but he sent me pictures. It actually turned out sickening.
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It turned out really good. I was very surprised. He's like, well, Trinity helped me a lot. I was like, I could tell because it looks good.
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Yeah, he did great. It was really good.
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But you know, enough about Bob the Drag Queen. Who cares about him? It's about us. And it's about this episode of RuPaul's Drag Race. Was this episode seven. No, eight. Episode eight of RuPaul's Drag Race season all stars 11. Trinho, if you had to go back for a bracket style, would you want to be the first bracket, second bracket, or third bracket?
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I think third bracket, because I Definitely would make it to the next round. And it's just more consecutive episodes in a row.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Breaking it. Yeah, you're right. You want. So you basically get the last six episodes as opposed to on three. America forgets about you for like five. For like five. Yeah, that makes sense.
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Yeah, that's what I think. I mean, but. But I. I love competition. So I would go back. I would go back for a regular All Stars.
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We would. Trinity.
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I just love it.
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So exhausting.
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I love it. I love it. I love it. I would go especially if they asked for another winner season. I just. I had so much fun on All Star 7. Like, I love it.
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All Star 7 was fun. It was fun.
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Yeah.
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I don't think I could go back, girl. I don't think I have it in me. I don't think I could do it again. I'm just. Yeah, I don't think I have it. But.
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Well, I mean, girl, you won once and you almost won again, so, you know, you don't really need to.
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But do you know who won this week and is very confident about this all is your draw. Daughter, Miss Sam. Star is going on about eating Jasmine up and Jasmine thinks that she beat Sam. Who do you think won that lip sync, Jasmine or Sam?
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I think Sam, because I think that Jasmine is a phenomenal. I said this last week. I think Jasmine is a phenomenal performer. I don't think she's a strong lip syncer.
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Yeah.
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And to me, Sam sold the lip sync and was a good performer. I. I don't. I think it was. It wasn't like. I don't think Sam just completely slayed.
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I agree, I agree, I agree. Yeah. I, I think also too, like having said, I. I forgot how charming Samsar is. Your Samsar is very funny.
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She.
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She. This some Trinity Jean. She's very funny. Her talking heads are always so cunty. So, like, she's a really, really, really. And I feel like we don't see that outside of the show. Like, she needs to, like, do some more stuff where she's, like, talking and like, engaging like out of Drag Race. Because she's very funny on camera.
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Yeah. I think Sam one, Sam's very young and Sam sleeps till about. And this is all. All realty. Sam sleeps till she has to get ready for the next gig. And Sam is too worried about hot boys. So I think when Sam grows up a little bit, she. And she. She starts to do more stuff like I've suggested, she will have more control over, like, what. What she puts out into the world, you know? And I love Sam. I think she's super talented. But, yeah, she ain't gonna do that right now, girl. She's too worried about sucking a dick.
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Well, you know what these girls are gonna realize with what? Over 400 of us, girl, you gotta start now doing things to separate you from all these other girls. Otherwise, you're gonna turn around and people gonna be like, sam who? And you're like, you're like. You're gonna lose the fan base if you don't, like, do things to, like, keep us engaged in you outside of just Drag Race. But, you know, good for her. Yep, that's true. And now. So it's time to give away the points. And no one wants to go first, which I agree. Going first is a fucking trap. We've seen it with Mistress Isabella Brooks and other girls. Going first is a trap. And I see what y' all are gonna do before I say what I'm gonna do. And it'll be a standstill.
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Yeah. I think if I was on a bracket with people, like somebody that I absolutely 100 trusted, like, say I was back on one with you, or I was on one when Sam or somebody like that, I would 100% just give you my point. Yeah, but some of these girls you like.
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Yeah.
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You don't know. And especially the way Kennedy's acting.
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I know, I know Ms. Kennedy. Well, Kennedy's old, so she's like. Kennedy's old. She's tired. She's like, ugh, girl, whatever. Um, so Joey. Joey decides to go first, which, by the way, also Joey J's hair. Game on this season. Her hair is really good. Whoever. Who is.
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Are.
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Are those Chantel she's wearing?
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No, her ponytail. She does them herself. Oh, wow. Really? Now the updo stuff, like the her Runway hair that she's been wearing, that is wigs by Hasan.
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Oh, Morgan's husband.
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Morgan's husband. Yes, he does.
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Okay.
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But I think her slicked back ponytails, she's. She learned to do them herself. I. I did a show with her and she said that.
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Oh, fierce. Okay. Full T. I remember when Morgan's Michael. Morgan's Michael Morgan. Michael's husband first started doing hair. They were a little bub, but now I would absolutely buy a lot of this.
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Oh, he's really talented. Him. Him. My. My two go tos is him and Chantel Yannis is.
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And he lives in la. I don't even have to get it shipped. Good to know.
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And he's you wear a lot of human. He's starting to do a lot of custom dye human.
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Good to know. But I'm going to text him literally, as soon as we get off of this.
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Yeah.
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And so Joey J. Decides to go first, and she gives her point to Hershey and Hershey reciprocates. So Joey and Joey. Joey and Hershey trade points.
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Yeah.
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And then Sugar gives her point to Kennedy. And then Kennedy comes with this speech, and I'm like, oh, God. So she gives this piece like she's going to go a whole different direction to. To drum up drama to. And to be extra. But she, like. Like, I thought she was not going to give it to Sugar, but she ends up giving. Giving it to Sugar anyway.
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She should have given it to Jasmine. Just. Just. But just because, girl, if you're gonna talk all that smack, girl, just go ahead and give the point to somebody else and give us a reason to be living right now. You know what I mean? Like, I want the drama.
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Yeah, I agree. But also, I would say I would. I would be scared to give it to Jasmine because, no shade. Because she wasn't early on her season. I wouldn't expect her to be doing well. So I'll give it to her. But this second episode, she did kind of all right too. So, like, I feel like she's more of a threat than we. Than I would underestimate her to be, you know.
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Agree, agree. And also, you know, the thing about Suga is she's a sweetheart. So, like, that would be, like, literally to be shady. Just Suga is crazy because she's.
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Yeah, she is. She's really, really, really sweet.
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I think Kennedy was trying to stay in everyone's good graces. Like, I think she was trying to be like, I acknowledge, you know, Jasmine, Kennedy did really well here. I saw Sam do really good with doing this, but because Shira gave her the point, she wanted to reciprocate but wanted to make sure the other girls know. I still saw that you guys all did good. Just in case. On a next episode.
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Yeah, I mean. I mean, on the final one when they all had to give their points on. On stage. Like, maybe this will help her out in the. In the end. We shall see in one more. In one more week.
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Yeah, that does make sense.
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Yeah. Um, so Kennedy. So the girls are d dragging, and Kennedy is really. She's on the Jasmine one, the lip sync train. Just because they, like, worked in Vegas together. So I think they have, like a. They have a friendship outside of this. Of course. I'M like, girl, Kennedy, I mean, sorry, Jasmine did not beat Sam. Like, but she also.
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Jasmine beater.
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I know. But Kennedy was the main one when they were like.
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So you can't tell from the back. Like, what are you talking about? You can't tell from the back.
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And they edited out a bunch of stuff Jasmine did according to the girls.
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Who's Jasmine said this?
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A few of them. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, girl, at the end of the day, we can only go by what we see.
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What we saw.
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Exactly. And what we also know is the girls can't see them lip syncing from the back. So, you know, at the end of the day, what the judges say is
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what the judges say. It is what it is.
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Even if Jasmine won, Sam bodied the challenge. So it would have felt not good not giving her the win anyway.
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Yeah, they just have done it before. Hello. And Trinity. Trinity and I have both been victims of it. Girl. Oh, here's a reminder of Bob and I. We are coming to Montreal for the Just for last festival on July 22nd. So if you're watching this and you live in Montreal or close to, come see us for sibling rivalry live July 22nd in Montreal, just go to hahaha.com or monetexchange.com or seethedradqueen.com to get tickets. Trinity, you want to plug any dates I actually have?
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Well, I'm going the whole month of this. I'm going to announce the dates soon of July. I'm in Europe. I have a European tour. I'm going to be gone the entire month and I'm going to the uk. Spain, Cologne, Amsterdam. Romania. Girl. Where Dracula is. Girl, I don't think they've ever had a drag race. Girl. Like, what?
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What? Romania.
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Romania, baby. I don't know, but they have a, they have a paycheck. So I'm, I'm flying there.
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So. You know, sometimes girls do gigs. I'm so jealous. Like Romania. I would love to go to Romania. Peppermint did like one in India one time. That sounds so fun.
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Do you like scary stuff?
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Yeah, I mean, I don't, I, I don't hate it. I'm not like a, a scary seeker, but I don't. I like it. Yeah.
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Because right now they're building in Romania, they're building a theme park. It's a multi billion dollar theme park around Dracula and it's not open yet, which I'm very pissed about because it's supposed to open next year. So I'm gonna have to go back to Romania.
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Oh, work Yeah, I mean, it seems like that should have existed a long time. They're only now making a fucking Dracula theme park.
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Hello. Yeah,
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so. And then, so now later we see Sam is expressing a little sensitivity and hurt about the lip syncomes because the girls are invalidating her down. And I, I see that too. Like when, you know, when you get out there and you did your thing and everyone is trying to validate you, that shit is annoying as hell in a competition like this.
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Yeah, I get it, I get it. Sam needs to suck it up though. I. I know from experience, you know, I'm a very honest person. I give my honest critique and I'm. People can say they that I'm biased all day, but I'm not. If people watch my review show, they'll know that on season 17 I was not biased to my drag children. And Sam even had messaged me several times. You hurt my feelings. I'm like, girl, I'm sorry. This is the real world. I have an opinion. You know I love you, but that don't mean I'm always going to agree with you. So I think she needs to just suck it up, girl. I think she does do a pretty good job though of navigating all these girls coming at her. But girl, don't show them that it gets to you.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure. Especially with. Cause some of these bitches are literal vampires. They want to. They want to fucking suck the joy out of you. Okay, so then RuPaul comes in and we find out that this week is a wrapping roast, which. So they did this in Mistress and Tina Burner's bracket last season. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. Now I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited Premium Wireless for $15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills, but it turns out that's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial.
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1-800-contacts and I like this format of a roast. Cause I think love it. I think Drag Race has been doing again for so many seasons. So when they find ways to spice up the challenges they do every season, I enjoy, like, a wrapping roast. I like this new addition until it gets. Until it gets tired in like, three more seasons. But so it's a wrapping roast. How would you feel about a wrapping roast?
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I love a wrapping roast. I think that this is very fun. It's not. It's not. I would feel like this would not be as much pressure on somebody who's not good at a roast, because on a Rose regular roast, you have, you have. There is a setup and a punchline. This is more like lyrics to a song.
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Yeah.
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So it's a little bit more fun. It's a little bit more in a drag queen's element that, you know, you're performing and it's just more casual. And I like it. I liked it. Yeah.
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Yeah. And I think it gives girls who are good performers, it gives them, like, a vehicle to roast better. Like for case in point, Jasmine Kennedy. Right. She's not. I mean, we haven't seen her do a roast, but I don't think Jasmine would particularly thrive in a roast. But having the vehicle of performance to do the roast, I think gives. That gives them an edge up.
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Yeah.
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And this is also the first. This is the first challenge we're gonna see of Hershey on Drag Race. That is not design, because she went home on a design challenge her original season. So this is like her first, like, bite at the apple of, like, something that isn't just about making clothes, which she's not. She's not horrible, but she's definitely not good at it. So I'm gonna do it.
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She's horrible. She's horrible at it.
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She's horrible at it.
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Girl, if they. If they would have had an elimination last week, girl, she would have went home. But, yes, at least this is not bad.
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Also me, because Jasmine, she seems very confident in her. In her. In her reading abilities. She. But you see. But she said reading, not roasting. Like, she feels very good at reading the dog, which she has Some. Some. Some.
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Some.
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Some good quips, some clapbacks of the girls. But a reading. A roaster. We shall see.
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Yeah, she is. I think she will be good at it. But also, Jasmine thinks she's good at everything she has got. She's got that Dulu Kool Aid honey that she's had from her original season. And I will say it usually can help you. I mean, like, look at Discord. Like, it kind of helped her get through. Yeah. Not. Not. Yeah, Discord.
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Yeah, Discord. She made it to, like, top six or something like that. Yeah.
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On her delusion alone. So, you know, fair.
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Yeah, listen, I always say this. I say, like, 50% of drag is being delusional about. About your abilities and 50% being real about it. I was like, there has to be in order to think, especially when you come on a competition show. I am.
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I'm.
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I'm a big fan of talking shit. The only thing is that when you talk shit and you don't meet the moment, everybody can clown you for it, but go in, especially when you. When no one's going home. So who gives a fuck? The judges can't send you home. So, like, whatever.
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Even if you don't order it.
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And. Oh, yeah. So the girls. So this is maybe the first time in a long time, but RuPaul doesn't let, like, one person choose the order. The girls collectively have to decide the order. And tell me how you feel about this. Okay, I've said this before on the sim guattarie and stuff. In my humble opinion, I don't think the order that you go really matters. Like, out in the real world, if you were doing, like, a standup set, like, at, like, a comedy club for real, and you go behind someone that really bombs, like, I think they. That can, like, hurt your thing. But in the. In the parameters of Drag Race, the order, in my opinion, does not matter. How. How do you.
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What do you think for this specific thing, the rap and roast, it does not matter. I think in the setup of Drag Race roasts, the pressure that Drag Race judges put on the person opening and closing can affect the way that they are Judged because that just opens the gate for them to be like, well, you weren't a great opener. Well, you weren't a great closer, but not to the extent of. I think if you're good, you're good, and if you're bad, you're bad.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and Joey J. Wants to go first. That's what I would. I. I mean, I always like to go first in roast. I feel like I like setting the tone. And I'll also be. Even though. Cause we'll. We'll get into the.
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The.
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The raps. Even though I don't think anyone would get any of my, like, like, like some overlapping of my jokes, I just like to go first so I can get mine done. And, And. And taking on the pressure of being first. That's.
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Well, you're also really good at roasts. Roasts are like, stand up is one of your things. So, like, again, you're like, you're the perfect opener or closer because you have that expectation, and you meet that expectation. Now me, you know, it's a work in progress.
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Junior, you're fucking hilarious. But Sam, your daughter wants to go last, so Joey J. Wants to go first, Sam wants to go last. And they have, like, some. A few things. Hershey wants to go third or fourth. And everyone, pretty much every. Everyone gets what they want. Nobody's upset with their. With their. With their plays. So I'm like, work. That's great.
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Yep.
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Here we go. Let's get into the challenge. Oh, should we. I guess we should go in order. Let's talk about these looks. I think RuPaul is good. I think.
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I love.
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I am a big fan of matching a shoe to an outfit, and I love that they painted it or wrapped this shoe in the exact same foil fabric of this dress. And I think rule of Durant. I mean, this hair is a choice,
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but I like the hair. You don't like the hair?
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You like this hair?
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I do, but one. I try. What I've been doing lately is I'm trying to not. I would never wear this hair. But wait, hold on.
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I like this hair. I mean, I'll never fucking wear it, but I would never wear this hair.
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But, you know, I try to look at things like, okay, mom is in her, what, 60s, so like, 65. Yeah. This is an age appropriate wig for her. It's styled nicely. I think it goes with the look. Yeah, I like the hair.
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Trisha, what is age appropriate? I feel like if RuPaul had this fucking outfit on with a slick back snatchback pony. Joey J. Pony. That would be fucking cut. Imagine RuPaul walked down there with a slick back, like, high pony.
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It would be cunt. But I also think, you know, mom is mom ing today, and I'm okay with it.
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Yeah. I mean, again, and I say this all the time, Rufal is the. She's not a drag queen. She's a queen of drag. When she can literally have any wig, any hairstyle, anything. And when you choose, when you have that much power to rule out and miss, to me, that's crazy. But, you know, God bless her.
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But girl, one thing I want to point out, girl with darker skin tone, ladies, it is really hard for you guys to match your tights because the. It's just limited on colors. The range is not there. Whoever gets RuPaul's tights, they have to be custom dyed because they are, like, exact to her skin tone.
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Yeah, I agree.
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It's like. Like, it's crazy. And this is, like. This is the same thing with, like, you know, a lot of makeup brands. The range is just not there. They. They don't cater to, you know, the white privilege out there. But RuPaul, this is immaculate. It literally looks like her skin.
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Yeah, I think it's definitely custom dyed. For sure. It is the. That's what I'm saying. Like, RuPaul, like, goes like so. So, like, what's the word looking for? So. So meticulous in certain aspects. But I think with hair, I think RuPaul is like, u. So give me that one, girl.
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Where is Curtis?
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I don't know.
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Who's doing her? Is it. Is it Raven? Raven's doing her wigs now, Is she? I don't know. I'm asking you. You have more insight than I do. They like you.
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I don't know. I mean, when. So Raven did Monet talks. Everyone want to check out the Monet talks episode with Raven? And she said, this is Raven's words. She was like, sometimes Ru is just on a Sunday or Saturday driving around. She'll see a wig at a wig store, pick it up, come back and tease it up herself and do her own hair sometimes. So, okay,
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you know what?
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So maybe this. Maybe Ru sat on Sunday afternoon watching Catching up on Love is Blind and was just at home in her chair twirling up this wig. I was like, oh, I'm gonna wear this wig to the show on Monday. Who knows? Yeah.
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She said, sam Starr's a Christian here. Closer to God.
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Okay, let's go into the first girl, which was Joey J, let's read these lyrics. The gay ass bitch about to. The gay ass bitch about to total these hoes read me cause I'm gay bitch I should Rainbows no one took the crown not a single title holder Sugar Kane, can you move? All I see is them shoulders Bleach blonde bad billed Bic Buick of the bitches on fumes broke down getting pulled out of the ditches Big back Paddy whack, give that bitch a muzzle Aarp met a mucil by the guzzle Jaz Kenzie, don't laugh he's giving cliffhanger the mug is giving fish Angler Bethlehem, you tried to do a flip but you did a flop Kennedy slowed down I think I. I think I heard your hip hop Sam star going far mess Trying to read me in a borrowed dress. Oh, that's a reference to the tuck. My time is up. I hope I won't be missed.
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Rude.
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Serious question.
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Who the is this? Honestly, Joey is. When I was watching the episode, I was like. Literally, I was like, oh. I was like, that was so good. Joey J killed this shit.
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Joey, they robbed her.
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I agree, I agree, girl.
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This was the best. Not only it was the best for sure lyrics. Also, she was in full control of how she wrapped it, the way she looked. And I love Michelle. Fuck Michelle for her critiques. And we'll get into that. I'm sure. Of her outfit. Her hair looks amazing. I mean, she was immaculate. It was immaculate. I was like this. She was giving All Stars winner energy.
A
Yeah. I have to tell y', all, throughout Joey J's entire performance of this, I was like, oh, my God, I cannot believe Joy J was rapping this. I thought she would. I thought she killed it. I even. I threaded or we don't say tweet. How do we say. I guess threaded? I posted a thread and I was like, Joey J, like, killed. Cause I was so impressed at everything you said. Like, she had complete command of the stage. Like she was in control the entire time. And she delivered that shit so good. Joey J killed this thing. And in my humble opinion, the best of the night.
C
Yeah, I mean, it's just good to see good queer representation.
A
Finally on Drag Race.
C
Finally, finally gay.
A
Finally, finally, finally. Oh, yes. Joey J killed this next one. Jay Kate. Do you want to read this one, Trina, or you want me to do it?
C
I could do it. Jasmine Kennedy, back again, this time with a little more estrogen. Leaving none for the girls like we got them in a habit. This is my moment. Time to let these bitches have it. Davenport, what's your claim to fame? Fourth time around, haven't won the game. We all heard that trade, didn't like the session. Keep your good eye on me, baby. Learn a lesson. Gay ass bitch. More like ass gay straight up flop it's Joey J. Heard you're on. Heard you're on a top, just not the race. Out of the 13 girls, you got 12th place. Sam, great gowns. Beautiful gowns. Just a shame they're Trinity's. Hand me downs. Never had a sweet tooth. Ha. Never has. Rue, sugar and Hersh.
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C
It's chocolate Boo. I mean, the, the best, the best read was Sam's.
A
Yeah, I think Sam's was the best one. And I did like the Kennedy. Keep a good eye on me because everyone knows Kennedy has a wandering eye, which I think was funny. Oh. Oh, that.
C
I didn't get that till just now, but yeah, yes, that. That is funny. This was. This was fine. It was. It was fine. It was kind of what I expected of Jasmine. She. And she looked a little Dr. Seuss.
A
A little Dr. Seuss. Very soothical. Musical.
C
To be honest, this would probably be about the level of what my rap would be because, you know, she's not a raptress. Okay. But it was fine. It was fine.
A
Also, you know that you've ascended to, to drag race, legendary fame when you Are mentioned several times in a season. And you are not even there, bitch. You are constantly being referenced.
C
You know, I was getting my life this episode because literally every girl was mentioning something to do with me. But I'll set the record straight in a bit after we get done with this. But, girl, there. This show is always referencing where the joke. I call shade. So I, you know, they can't get rid of me.
A
Yeah, I thought this was fine. I thought that it was giving very seussical musical. And, you know, a lot of these. I mean, apparently everyone got someone to write their rap for them besides Hershey, which there's no harm, no foul, like, go off. But sometimes you can tell that just wasn't Jasmine's voice. Just like when it was Morgan's bracket. And I said, and before I. Anyone wrote it, Bob and I were talking about it. I was like, this doesn't sound like Morgan's voice. And like, sometimes, like, when you. Like, anytime. Trinity and I have done our things. It's been our voice. We have did our lyrics on the show, and it sounds like us for the good and the bad, right? When it was bad, when it wasn't, you know, whatever. So I appreciate hearing. I think if you're gonna work with a writer, it should be a writer who understands you as opposed to just putting, like, references to you. It should sound like you, but that's just me. And I can hear that this does not sound like Jasmine. Like someone else wrote it, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And someone said, sorry, I might sound like Bob Peyton Ricci said, what are y' all thoughts on bringing lyrics from home? I think. And I would like. I think it's fine to bring lyrics from home. I just think it should sound more like you, because, let's be honest, like, the show is at a level where the girls are scared to have a bad lyric because y' all won't let them live it down for the next decade. So girls are afraid to be vulnerable and trying the show because the fans make them feel like they're a piece of shit. They can't rap. Ugh.
E
You.
C
You.
A
You're a horrible rapper. You should kill yourself, you bad rapping, losing bitch. So people are afraid to be vulnerable on the show because of the fan base. So I'm like, if you. If you. If it is a blanket to bring lyrics from home to do it, sure. But, you know, I just think it should just sound more like the person.
C
I. I just wish everybody would realize that this is more of a reality TV show than it is a straight up. Not saying it's not fair, but it's not like it's. That's not the number one objective here. The number one objective of Drag Race and any reality competition show is to fulfill a storyline of whatever it is that for the end goal. So if these girls want to have a good moment and it's within the rules. Yeah, girl, bring, Bring lyrics, bring roast jokes, bring patterns, whatever it is that you need.
A
You're.
C
You bring looks. You don't make all your looks there, so.
A
Exactly.
C
You know what's, what's the song lyric.
A
Yeah, I agree.
C
Because you still have to either deliver it or don't.
A
Exactly. Yeah. Also, Jasmine's outfit was pretty. Like, I was like, girl, that's. I mean, it was fine, just like a. I don't know what the hell she was. She looked like she watched. She wrapped in some kelp from a kelp forest.
C
But you know, she, she, she's got her, her, her new tickle bitties. She's trying to show off the body.
A
Girl, those are not tigo bitties. Those are bee stings, girl. You see, you see her little ass titties, which, which, by the way, love little ass titties. If, If I was, if I was to transition, I think I would get little, little beats things too. I don't think I want, like, H's. I would probably like a nice 38B for me.
C
Yeah, I think she, I think her. She's very proportionate, I think.
A
Yeah.
C
From what I could tell, her boobs are beautiful.
A
Yeah.
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A
Well, let's go to Kennedy. Child, child, it's always the girls. Mama.
C
Ru.
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I ain't playing with these bitches. Call, call up PETA. I'm a beater cause I'm slaying all you bitches. Chocolate. No, it ain't Hershey's. It ain't Hershey's.
C
Flop.
A
What you packing, pork chop? Jasmine. I'm the only Kennedy bitch. You ain't no kin to me Just my mini me Brains, no body I guess. But I must confess bitch, you look a mess. Next Sam Starr. It's not a dream lost last season Wearing your mama's theme. Without season 7 again, there wouldn't be 17 like Joey J. The fellow queen had high hopes for the rest of this cast, but just as I thought, trash. I know Spice had a twin. Who the is this Booger, cuz? What the hell happened to Sugar?
C
So I. My thought of this. This is a great example of. The lyrics are kind of all over the place, and they're okay. The lyrics are okay. The thing about Kennedy is the way that she wrapped it and the way she sold it. I loved her performance. I. I couldn't even understand all of her lyrics because sometimes when things are being wrapped, it's just hard to comprehend as they're going because it's so fast. But, yeah, some standouts were really good. I. I loved the. The. The comparison to not. Not Hershey chocolate, but she's a pork chop. I loved the Jasmine thing about, like, the. She's no kin to me. She's a mini me girl Samsar and a lost in her mama's things. And I liked the last line about, who the fuck is this Booger? What happened to Sugar? It was just the way that she sang it, so I liked it. But, like, just looking at the lyrics, it was, like, kind of all over the place.
A
Yeah. I think that Kennedy. What Kennedy will always shine to, your earlier point is her delivery of this and her. The performance of it. I think her performance, she, like, was. She was great. She was electric to look at on stage. So I think that helped sell, sell her. Sell, sell the rap, even though. Even though all the lyrics weren't the best. But I agree with you. I love. I love the pork chop line. I love the. The booger sugar line. And. Yeah. Jay, what do you have to say?
E
What do you think? What do you think for a wrap and roast as opposed to, like, a girl group challenge or a regular roast? The metric by which the judges determine who does well, because at the end of the day, it's still a roast, right? So you still want to be savage. You still want to get reads in. But then to Trini's point, Kennedy bodied the performance. So at what point are you like, okay, well, you were so good here we're going to let these tired reads slide because you were so good. Like, where. Where do you feel is the appropriate way to judge these girls on that?
C
If you make Ru laugh.
A
Yeah. It's never that hard to fucking do. Ru Bo will fucking laugh at anything.
C
Yeah. That's literally the metric for anything at Drag Race is if you make. If you can make Ru laugh, that girl win. Like, that's literally. That's all you have to do is in anything Make Ru laugh. I think also for girl groups, they're not always funny. Like, you know, sometimes. Actually, more often than not, the girl groups are. Are more themed, but not usually funny.
A
Yeah, I don't know. I'd agree with that. Yeah. I don't know where the exact line is that they let the performance compensate for the source, the subject material. But, yeah, I think that's what we're all doing. We're trying to find where that is. And I think because Kennedy's performance was good, I was forgiving some of the lyrics because her performance and her energy on stage was nice. Yeah. And. Yeah. Let's go on to Hershey Lecourgita.
C
Now, Mama Ru, we need to have a conversation in this. Is this a competition or a vacation? The girls here looking real bizarre. So let's get it started with these chocolate bars, girl. Joey J finally put on a wig. First gay contestant or just a British sig. And you can't read Suga in this age of politics because you know what they say. Protect the bricks. Now, Jasmine, this one's gon be similar. You're going halfway, then no one remembers you. Sam's cute, but she's still gotta go. Have you seen her in a battle? Sis performs like. Like a sew ops. Like, I don't know what that means.
A
No assist sis. Sis performs like I sew. Oops.
B
Oh.
C
Oh, I get it. Kennedy likes to dance and buck, but always runner up and it must really suck. Auntie is the oldest, but I ain't alarmed. I'm about to send her pack and fourth time won't be a charm.
A
I like the. I like this.
C
Some of the lyrics are. See, I'm gonna disagree with a lot of people here. Some of the lyrics. I feel like the first half is strong, the second half is weak, and I absolutely hate what she's wearing. I think her cadence and the way she wrapped it was probably the most genuine of, like, if somebody was actually a rapper. This is more believable. I did not like this performance, really?
A
Okay, so I like what I didn't like about this outfit. I like this outfit from the, like, waist up. Well, not the titties. I don't know. Her titties are.
E
Girl.
C
They're like a completely different color girl.
A
She wearing Bob's titties. She's wearing Bob's titties. But, yeah, the titties were too dark for her. But I do like the. I do like her energy and her vibe. Right. I like the sunglasses with the ponytail and the da da. And the black. I think. I think it was good. I think these lyrics were good. And she was the only one who actually wrote her lyrics. And I'm gonn to give that extra point. I'm sorry. I'm going to give extra points because she sat down and she really wrote this herself as opposed to getting a ghostwriter. And I think I just love some of the. Some of the. Some of the hidden meanings here. Like, British cig, Like, calling Joey J a fag. I thought that was. Someone said, explain that to me a British cigarette. They call them fags. Like, can I, can I, could I, could I. Could I bump a fag from you babes? Like, so. I think that was clever. Is that a read, though? No, I don't. No, she said it's not a read, but everything doesn't have to be like, a scalping, scolding read.
E
It's a roast.
D
But.
E
It's a roast. But in a real read here was protect the bricks.
A
But any. But any. Any roast you go to, every joke is not, like. Is not gonna, like, scalp everyone. You have. You have jokes that are. Some are just, like. Just like, regular jokes just to, like, get you through the set. The entire set can't be this. You have to have, like, peaks and valleys in it.
C
For me, it's not more about, like, if it was a read or not. It's more like I don't want to have to think about it. Like, this is going. It's going so fast. I don't want. I don't need to.
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To.
C
I don't need somebody to decipher for me later on what you said. Like, if it's in the moment, I need to know. I. I didn't get the. The sewing thing till you just explain it to me. The British sig I did get, but it took me a second the first time I heard it. I just personally feel like the first half of the roast is strong. The second half of the roast is not. What she wore was not good. And for me, this was one of the lower half of the. Probably bottom three. Two more. Me.
A
Really?
C
Yeah.
E
Yeah.
A
Interesting.
C
Yeah.
A
Yeah. I think. I think. I think also because she was.
C
But also. I want to say this, too. I want to say this, too. Everybody did good. To me. Everybody did good. I'm saying if I had to, like, categorize, like, rank everyone. I think every. I don't. I don't think this was bad. I just. I. I think everybody did good. But I'm just comparing.
A
And also, she had the best cadence and the best flow, in my opinion.
C
She did that.
A
Yeah, like, she. Like, she sounded like.
C
I would probably put her third or fourth for me.
A
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Let's go to Ms. Sugarcane. I was gonna be nice, but y' all poke the queen now. Now it reads and rhymes. I'm a roast machine, so buckle up, divas. I'm serving pain. No, this ain't dessert. This is Death by Sugar Cane. Joey's first. Yeah, we get it. She's gay. But I think it's time we pray the J away. Or is it a gay or the J or whatever. Jasmine. Hi. So glad you're here. A moment of silence.
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Hey.
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Just like your career, Kennedy Bucks and flips with Grace should do anything to keep you from seeing her face. Y' all look confused. That's not Trinity the tuck again. That same star and her mama's old stuff. Hershey's drag. Sweet. Like a snack. Or is. Or, or, or, or is her. She serving it. Wait, why did Jay Rider like Jacob writer? Or is her what?
C
Hershey? Or is her she serving it? That because her name is, like, Hershey and it's like her. She.
A
Oh, got it. Serving it. Okay. Sh. So nice. Yeah. What's she gonna say? Jokes on you. I could do this all day. I thought this was the worst performance of the night.
C
Yeah, I think it is.
A
Like, why didn't show up?
C
Yeah. Pretty weak. I will say it was charming and cute the way she performed it, but 1000% agree with you that this was the. The worst lyrics and. And performance.
A
Yeah, I thought it was. It was. It was the weakest of the bunch. I was like. And in my opinion, by far, I think everyone. Like, none of these were particularly like, you know, smart or whatever. I. I thought this was. This was just ma. Bad.
E
Yeah.
A
No, also, what is this outfit? It's like a. It's like a Chanel boucle two piece thing. Like, she's like a school girl. I don't know what's going on with the pigtails.
C
I can't stand when people just wear a regular old bra, too. I cannot stand when somebody just pulls a regular old bra bustier bra that you got from Walmart and you. There's one little tiny rhinestone at the bottom. Girl. Girl. What?
A
And last but not least, we have Sam Star Samantha before we do the lyric.
C
Girl, this outfit is awful. I hate this outfit. And I get it. Like, you know, like, a lot of people in the south specifically wear camo with orange. Yeah, I don't like this. I don't like this at all. I'm about to roast these hoes in my. In my country ass accent. Try it with me. They won't make it out. The bracket points to. On to the board. I got another basket. I'm killing these hoes, Ru. Better get a casket. Jasmine. Sure, her moves pack a punch, but her mug is so hard, I call her Captain Crunch. That was good. Sugar is more filler than a fast food patty Looks are giving broke sugar needs a sugar daddy. Joey really thinks that his looks are grand but he's giving water down Go and irrigate the land. Hershey on deck, Stepping up to the bat. But wait a minute, y'. All. Who the hell is that? Kennedy's back. I'm really confused. Rue. Slept on you twice. Still about to hit snooze. My name is Sam. Been a star from the start. Good luck keeping up, girls. Bless your heart. This was okay. I would say this was like in the middle.
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Middle.
C
I do. I think this was probably like sugar canes.
A
Irrigate the land is giving water down Go irrigate the land sent me to orbit.
C
I said, I think this is better. Definitely better than sugar canes. I would say. I would say the order was this the last one?
A
Yeah, the last one. Yeah.
C
I would say the order would be Joey J. Kennedy. I will give it to hershey. So Hershey. 3. I would say Sam, then Jasmine, and then Suga. That's what I would say.
E
This is crazy.
A
Yeah. No, I. My order would be Joey J. Hershey Kennedy.
C
Okay.
A
Jasmine, Sam, Suga.
C
Okay, hold on, wait, hold on, wait. Let me think, let me think, let me think. Let me think what they wore. Okay. Joey J, hands down, rap way performed outfit, Slam duck. Number one. Number two, Kennedy. Her lyrics were okay. Performance was amazing. I loved her outfit for this because it just was camp. So. Yeah, I say two. Hershey. Her lyrics, some of the first half was good. Second half wasn't. Her outfit was absolutely atrocious, but her cadence was really good. So.
A
Yeah.
C
Three. Yeah, but. Yeah, and then Sam. Awful outfit. I think. Think half of her lyrics are okay. It's kind of like Hershey. They're kind of like the similar. I hated their outfits. Their. Their lyrics are okay. I. I will say. I. I think that Sam had energy on stage, so I would put her. Yeah, I would put her next. Jasmine hated her outfit. Her lyrics were okay. She performed okay, and then Sugar will just. Yeah, her outfit was awful. The lyrics were not good. She was cute, though.
A
It was cute. Yeah.
C
Nobody was horrible to me. I Didn't think anybody was horrible. I thought everybody. It was cute. I enjoyed the whole thing.
A
No, I thought sugarcane was quite horrible. And I want her to never do it ever again. Never again, please. But I will say Samstar has my favorite lyric of the night. Not because it's good, because I think they're irrigating the land part. I want that on my tombstone when I die. I want them to write, but Monet was giving water down. Go and irrigate the land.
C
She's from the country. She's from the. You know, she is from a farm. Okay. That's what they do.
A
The lad was crazy. Okay, wait, Jay, someone wants to know what. What is your order?
E
Oh, God. Joey J.
A
What is it?
E
Joey J. Joey J.
D
First.
A
Uhhuh.
E
Jasmine second.
A
Uhhuh.
C
Jasmine.
A
Jasmine second. Okay, you must be sorry.
E
Based. Based on lyrics. Jasmine second. Ken, Kennedy, Hershey, Sugar. Sam. Sam.
C
Oh, no. Jay, you got to get out of here.
A
Yeah, he's. She's drunk. Jay's been drinking again.
C
Jasmine up that far.
A
That's crazy.
E
Her verse is better than Kennedy's, Hershey's, Sugars, or Sam's. You're just not even remote. I'm not drunk. It's not. It's not even close.
A
Well, then you're high.
B
And this.
E
This is. To the people who say that I'm not allowed to comment. This is the one thing that I. I absolutely do have background in this. I did this. I did for 20 years. As we verse, hands down. You're telling me her verse is better? Is. Is not better than Hershey's?
A
Yeah, Hershey's is. Her. Is better than Jasmine's, in my opinion. But. But it's not just lyrics. You're only looking at lyrics. We're looking at the whole thing. We're looking at performance and lyrics and delivery. So that's how we're choosing it. Not just for you. Right.
E
We talked about the whole thing. About what's the criteria? Yeah, for me, the. The criteria is the read. I think Hershey's perform. Hershey and Kenny's performance and Joey's were the top three performance on stage.
C
All I'm gonna say is the only thing I agree with either one of y' all is that Joey J won hands down. The rest of these girls could just go home because, like, Joey J. To me, they should have just crowned
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her right there because.
E
Does the Runway count?
B
Count?
C
Yes, to me.
A
Yeah, I think so, too.
C
And. And we'll get into. I loved Joey's outfit.
A
So if we were all We. If the three of us were on a judging panel together, how the we would decide? I guess we all know Joey's winning. Who. Who are we putting in top two? Well, whoever.
C
Whoever's the RuPaul, I guess.
E
Well, we all agree Hershey and Kennedy
A
killed the performance, but, Jay, Trinity, you're segmenting it. Trinity and I are looking at the whole thing. You're only looking at one aspect. As a judge, you have to look at the whole thing.
C
Yeah, Jay, whenever you're. Whenever you're in a competition you like, you're supposed to look at Trinity.
A
Trinity has 20 years in pageant, so Trinity gonna tell you about. You have music. Trinity is pageant, so she's telling how you judge, baby.
C
Yeah. In competition, you. You. It's consistency. Who. Who. Who is the best overall? Not just best at one category, because in pageantry, you can win evening gown and not even place top three.
A
Talk your shit, Trinity. Gather J Gava J's ass.
C
But I agree with you, Jay and Monet, that Joey J was number one.
A
Okay, let's get. Okay, wait, let me get back to my notes really quick.
E
Yeah, gather yourself.
A
So they get done with thing. And they're back.
C
He's roasting. He's roasting.
A
Over here, Jay.
C
Okay, Jay's getting that. I live.
A
Um, when they get back to the workroom after this performance, the next day, they're back in the workroom. And just quick note. I have Trina Kennedy feels like an outsider because no one is strategizing with her. Um, but she's also not taking the initiative to strategize, to strategize with other people. I'm like, bitch, be the strategy you want to see in the world. No way for everybody to come to you. You go do it. Just because you old and you done Drag Race four times, you think people could just come to you, bitch, work for what you want.
C
Yeah, I mean, I, I. One thing I know about Kennedy, I know I've known her for years and years and years. Even before Drag Race, before either of us were on Drag Race, when we were both competing. I competed with her one time at Miss USA. I didn't make the top 10, and she did, and she was fabulous. Anyway, she's. Kennedy is as much of a front as she puts on as being, like, strong. And she is. She also is very sensitive, and I think that she picks up things that. And maybe takes things personal when they're not personal sometimes. And so that's probably what it is, is that she's reading into. And I get It. Because in this kind of competition, when you're relying on other people, you do take things personal.
A
Yeah, well, Trinity, you said that you're gonna set the record straight. Like, how do you feel about. Everyone is saying that Sam Star is wearing all your things? Is that what you were talking about?
C
Oh, so most of the stuff that Sam Wore on season 17 was not my stuff, really? Almost. Almost all of it was Chantel's stuff. Chantel sparkles. But Sam didn't borrow it. She bought all that stuff from Chantel. So it ended. I know it was like hand me downs, but. But Sam bought it. You know, she. She paid. She paid for those things. And again, girl, she did it smart. She made the top four, and she didn't have to go broke doing it. And you know. You know, I will tell you that these fans are atrocious, where they go after these girls. And now this time, she. She didn't ask me for shooting for
A
All Stars because your bible is gonna be this again.
E
If you were. If you were my drag mother and I was going on Drag Race, why would I not go in your closet?
C
I agree.
E
It doesn't make any sense. Like, you have probably some of the best runways and clothes from anyone on Drag Race. And why would I go spend 20 to 60k like some of these girls when I could just borrow 100?
A
Yeah, because that's because these people want you to go broke for Drag Race. If you don't come out with what they think is a $5,000 outfit every fucking episode, then they think you're not trying. You don't want it. But like, yeah, Trinity has such a great package. Trinity has iconic Ron. The show we have off the show. So why not, if something works for my season, get it from my drag mother. It was wild that she gets read for that. That.
C
But also her Runway package was sickening because most of it was Chantel stuff. And girl, this is why I don't get. Drag Race needs to cast Chantel because, girl, these looks her and her husband made so she could do it again, she would kill it. Kill it. I think that's probably why they haven't put her on girl. Cuz she'd be. She just walked through.
A
I remember that. That thing you wore on that Australian tour that Chantel made. That.
C
The scary. Yeah, the zombie look. Yeah. That was Ethan and Chantel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
Let's get into these runways. Jai up first, Joey J. What was the category? The category was ladies. Ladies who lunch.
C
Yep.
A
This hair. I love this hair. I will wear this down. This looks great.
C
I loved the whole thing.
A
Yeah. No, I love.
D
I love her.
A
I love her entire outfit. My only thing was that blue flower was such. Was so off from the. Why was the flower a navy and the thing was sky blue? That's the only thing. Otherwise, I like this outfit.
C
The only thing is because the fabric is marbled, and the deepest parts of the marble was navy. And so she picked up her accessories. Like, her shoe is navy. The hat. I don't really love the hat, but I get it because it's ladies who lunch, and that's very. That kind of thing. I am okay with the nude. I probably would have picked something else.
A
Yes, I agree.
C
Made it more open, but I do. The fact this suit. I can see you in this suit. In. In just a suit, I would wear this.
A
But. Yeah, I agree. I think the nude blends into her. Like, you can't really tell what it is. If it was another color, then I think you could see the. The details on it. But because it all, like, kind of blends into, like, it looks like it's just. Just obviously it's new. It's supposed to disappear with her skin. And I. I don't think that was. That was. That was smart.
C
Other than that, I love this outfit and her mug. Bitch.
A
Beautiful. The girl, Joey J. Is really impressed with me. I. I'm so happy that. I'm so glad to have Joey J. Back on my screen. She's killing it. Up next, Jasmine Kennedy. This was sick. I fucking love this. She looked like the mother from. Is this Cinderella? The original Cinderella.
C
Oh, okay.
A
Like the evil stepmother. I think she looks great. I love going super classic and going into this period. This period look for this Runway, and I think she looks great. I love this outfit.
C
I hate it. What now? Now. Now I'm saying that biasly because I just don't like this time period of fashion. I feel like it's just so heavy and so much. I will say, to give Jasmine credit, everything is immaculate. The hair is exact. That time period. The outfit is an exact. The way that the train lays is immaculate. It is made extremely well. The fascinator is fierce.
A
I love the fascinator.
C
I just don't like this. This time period of fashion. That's just me being biased, though. But overall, is this great? Yes. I just don't like it.
A
Yeah. I mean, I. So Peyton Richie said I would hate to eat lunch in this. I agree. Eating this. Eating in this would not be great, but I.
C
But this was the society that created the luncheon yeah.
A
So she did her research. And I love when a queen doing his research and work that went into the look, not just, you know, just throwing some clothes on your body that someone designed. I. I think this was great. I thought this was one of my favorite looks of the evening. Let's go on to Kennedy. Boo boo Boot Boo boo the fool. This looks fucking crazy. And I don't care. It's bugle beads. I don't care. It's expensive. RuPaul tried to justify that when Michelle said something and RuPaul said, Do you not see the bugle beads, bitch? I don't care. It looks. It does not look good. Like, I don't think this looks good. I hated this.
C
I love this.
A
So.
C
Yep. So in pageantry, there's a category in certain pageants called sportswear. And sportswear is, like, for example, one of the most prestigious pageants that has this category is Ms. Black Universe. Ms. Black Universe is held in Atlanta every October. It is just as prestigious as Miss Continental. And a' Keria C. Davenport is a former.
A
Oh, it works. Yeah.
C
So. So this pageant is a fashion pageant. Like, you go in. This is a sportswear. And the sportswear category was based off of, like, a ladies who lunch, but, like. Like church ladies or, like, what you would do after a sun. Like, Sunday church, you would go lunch. That's kind of the idea of what a lady whose lunch is. This is exact. That the only thing I don't care for is the hair. The hair looks a little messy for the look to be so put together. One thing I love about Kennedy is she. She's obviously done sportswear before. From head to toe. Other than the hair, everything matches, even the shoe. And that is important when you're. When you're looking for sportswear.
A
Yeah, I guess I need to. I. I hate it. Even the fascinator is like a fucking headphone. Like, why is a fascinator on this side of your face? The fascinator should be fascinating, fastened to your head, to your hair. I did not like this. And also this, like, sequin top. Like what? Just like, I don't know, girl.
C
I like this. I do like it.
A
Let's go on to Hershey La Courgete again with this two. This titty bib. Also, like, I'm sorry. If you found a black one, just take your foundation, get a lighter one, and put your foundation on top of it. That's what I did, y'.
D
All.
C
This is another thing. This is what I'm talking about, though, with. With tights. And with, with stuff like this, people that put out products into the world need to get it fucking together. There are more shades than beige, tan and, you know, beige. You know what I mean? Like, there's beige. Yeah. There's so people. There's not just one or two colors of black people. There's not just one or two colors of people that have more yellow undertone or more red undertone. People need to, if you're gon to have products, you need to offer products in, in every fucking shade. Yeah. That is just a store. An eyesore.
A
Yeah. I mean, other than, other than the titties. I love. I think this is, this is very beautiful. I think this is very gorgeous. I think she, I think her face looks beautiful. And I love, I love, I love this color on her actually. But the titty bib like this, this. Jay, can you please put this image in next to me? Be like, what are you talking about? This image that on, on the right of just. It looks like, like someone is. It looks like a different person. It's just, it's just so, like Walking Dead.
C
It's so gray.
A
Frostbitten right here.
C
Yeah, it's so gray compared to her, like warmed actual skin.
A
Yeah. Yeah, this is. This, other than that, I think this, this, this look was great.
C
I think one, she has one of the best mugs of the season. I've, I've worked with her a lot here in la and she's so airbrushed. She's so beautiful. Words. I hate this one. I don't like. It's. Again, it's, it's in that time period of, of garments. I don't like. Two, Anybody that knows me knows I absolutely hate satin. I hate satin.
A
Oh, you don't like satin?
C
Satin looks cheap in its ugly. This color looks great on her. My positive is she looks beautiful in the face.
A
Let's go on to Sugar Cane. This bitch is gonna make me die. Have diabetes. Because I hate this sugar look. I hate it, I hate it. I don't know what I'm looking at. This ruffle coat thing is fucking weird. I don't like. And she's trying to be like, I'm like a young, cool, hip girl going to get lunch. No, you look bad going to lunch. And if you came to lunch wearing this outfit, I would ask you to sit at a different table. Cause I'm embarrassed to sit next to. I don't like this outfit. I do like her hair. This hair is nice. But even the color, like, doesn't look great on her. And it's like miniskirt with the thing. This. I think this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
C
I like the outfit, but I don't like it for this category.
A
Right.
C
So what I'm. I'm going to judge it based off of that. This does not give me at all ladies who Lunch, because if that was the case, then, like, literally you could wear anything. This doesn't give me sportswear. It doesn't give me the time period of what the. The origination of Ladies who lunch is. Yeah, it's. It's giving me with the hairstyle and the way, like, almost like a drag. J. Lo, like, what a drag Queen would think JLo would wear to a lunch. You know what I mean? I don't. I'm not. Yeah, I like the outfit, but it would be more like for a really good meet and greet or something.
A
Yeah, Japen, I agree. Like, how are you having lunching? This. You are. Every time you go to go to go get the salt and pepper shaker, you're knocking everything over. Every time you go to dip, girl, you're gonna have mustard, mayonnaise, everything all up in your clothes. Like, what?
C
That sleeve is gonna be in the crab boil. That sleeve is getting all over the croissant sandwiches with mayonnaise. I mean, yeah, girl, you can't eat soup in this. Like, what are you doing?
A
Yeah, this is a no for me. No, no, no, no, no. And last but not least, we have Samantha Starr, Sam Star wearing a. It's like a. Obviously a reference to Chanel, but she. But there is stoned out Chanel. What'd you think about this look?
C
I love everything but the hat. And I do like a hat. I just think the hat looks. Looks a little. And it could be just because she traveled there with looks a little beat up. But the outfit, to me, this looks so luxe. It looks like. What's her name? Legally Blonde goes to lunch. This is another example of. This is sportswear. This is what you would wear in that category in a pageant for ladies who lunch. I love this. This is one of my favorite of the night. Minus the hat.
A
Yeah. I love the exaggerated collar and the exaggerated cuffs. I think that was a really smart detail to like, give it to have this, like, grand over the top look. I agree. Because she has. Only the other thing I would do is maybe the hair up because she has this, like, ruffle collar here and the hair down. Yeah. It's like crunching this up. So I would have done maybe some type of like, fuck the Fuck the hat. And put some type of upped hair to give us more, like volume and space here.
C
Yeah, I agree.
A
And the dog, I didn't quite. I get. I get the dog, but I didn't get the dog. Like, you know, obviously, I'm sure you've seen it in here. In la, people bring their dogs everywhere. People bring their dog.
E
Yeah.
A
To restaurants. It's too much.
C
But.
A
So I get what she's doing. But it was. It seemed like extra for no reasons, in my opinion. But, you know.
C
Yeah, I think the dog is like, take it or leave it. Like, I think it's a cute. It was cute. A cute gimmick, but I don't think. Think it needed it. But also, I don't think it takes away from it. I think. I think for me, I agree with you. I think this is. This with the hair down is too much and I don't like the hat, but other than that, yeah, look good.
E
Good to me.
A
Okay, the judges. Critiques. So, Michelle, do you want to rate the runways? What?
E
Oh, you guys ordered the other girls. Do you want to order the runways?
A
Okay, in my order, I would put Jasmine, Kennedy. Jasmine Kennedy, Joey J. Hershey. No, Jasmine, Kennedy, Sam, Star, Hershey, Joey J. Kennedy, Sugar. Okay.
C
I'm going to try to do this unbiasedly because two people wore looks of time periods that I don't like because it was made well and I can appreciate that all the details were there. I would put Jasmine first, though. I don't like it. I would put aesthetically what I like next. Joey J. So Jasmine, Joey J, then Sam, then Kennedy, then Suga, and then Hershey. I just. I don't like this. I think it's so atrocious. And the breastplate, I can't get past it.
A
Yeah, yeah.
D
Okay, work.
A
That's a critique. So Michelle Visage, she has officially called her the list of the things she does not like. The Michelle list. And she's adding the Mugler bike corset thing to the list. What do you think about that?
C
I, again, I love Michelle. I wish she would. It doesn't revolve around Michelle. It's not. You're. You're inviting artists onto a show to show their art, not to cater to what Michelle likes or doesn't like. People should not be scared to clothe themselves because they're inspired by something based off of, oh, oh, my God, I can't wear green because Michelle will hate it. Girl, get over it. Get over it. Get over these things. Like, who cares if you don't you should be, you should be judging things unbiasedly is what you should be doing. You shouldn't be judging things based off of if it's your taste or not.
A
Yeah, there's. That's fair. And I, But I, I, I do think I'm also like, I don't know how often we've seen the Mugler biker thing on Drag Race.
C
I think I haven't seen it much. I haven't seen it much. Especially not this. What? This isn't even Mugler. This is like a, like a off road bike bike. It's not even, it's not even a Harley. It's like a, it's like a off road dirt bike kind of theme. And it's done immaculately.
A
Yeah. I wore one on Secret Celebrity Drag Race, but that was not Drag Race. I did like my version, which I actually have it right here, actually. One second. When I did Super Secret Celebrity Drag Race, I wore a blue one, which was made very well. I love this outfit. I'm actually going to sell it or give it away to somebody.
C
Does it.
E
Do you want to give viewers a little backstory on this look?
A
Yeah. This is made by Domino Couture. So this one on my ass.
C
Oh, wow. You actually got your costume.
A
Oh, my God. I came to get. And this was the front of it, so it's very. Well, it was very cool.
C
I remember seeing this was really cool.
A
Yeah.
E
Do you want to tell them what it was originally for?
A
What was it for? Oh, yeah. This was supposed to be my light up costume for All Stars. Oh, my God. This was supposed to be my light up costume. Thank you, Jay. Remembered my whole life, this was supposed to be my light up costume for All Stars 4. I mean, All Stars 7. And he never came through with it. And so that's why I had the backup option of that. I hated that Starry Night thing, but. Oh, my God, Jerry forgot. And so it was one of those things, girl. He was supposed to send it, send it like the day of leaving, waiting for this costume. Cause this, the headlights lighted, lit up the ass lit up like, you know, like a car. And he just never sent it. Thank you for reminding me, Jay.
C
I wanna ask you some questions about that if we have time. What? So why is. Is, Is he just like, notoriously known for this kind of behavior?
A
Yeah, girl, he is notoriously known for this. Like, he. But it's just got, it got like since the beginning of working Domino, he's always been late and it's always been a thing. But over the years, it just got really bad. Like, taking money, not responding. It just got bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
C
Has he reached out to you since you blasted him?
A
Oh, my God, yes. I haven't said this officially, but he sent me after I posted that video on YouTube, he sent me an email and basically, like, apologizing, saying he's sorry. He wants to make it right. He was like, there are two things I can do. Either I can, like, get on a payment plan and send you $100 a week for X amount of week plan.
C
Bitch, you already. You sent him the money in full,
A
and then he's like, that. Or I would really like to just make you the outfit and, like, feel like I'm like, I don't trust any of these options. None of these options sound good to me. So I just didn't respond.
C
You should take him to small claims court.
A
I should? Honestly.
C
Judge Judy, bitch. Judge fucking Judy.
E
We can cut this part out if you want, but do. When Morty was getting ready for all winter, while waiting for looks like that, Domino was also making other looks from Monet that Monet didn't even ask for and would, like, send pictures and, like, videos of. Oh, I made this just in case, you know, for this. I made this, you know, for maybe if this comes up, so do everything else other than the things that Monet had asked to do.
A
It's weird, girl. What.
C
What is this? They seem unhinged and a little unscrewed.
A
Yes. That door is floppy, girl. It is fucking flying off the handle for sure.
C
Wow.
A
But, yeah, Jay, I forgot this was for All Stars 7. I fully forgot this was an All Star 7 look.
C
Well, that is a cool look.
A
It would have been cool, but, yeah. And my only other note is that Jamal wanted Suga. He's like, you know, I wish that you would hood right it up more. I was like, girl, do you not know Halore? She has a whole thing that people think she does black fades. Okay, that's, that's this shooter hood rat. I was like, this is crazy.
C
I mean, I did, I did see that video, girl. I, I. It's kind of hard to. It's kind of hard to argue with that video.
A
I know.
C
I mean, I. But you know what? I'm white, so, you know, Sugar is not Caucasian, and maybe that just was her natural skin tone at the time. I don't know. Yeah, she does get pretty dark work, like, as a person of color. So I, I, that's not for me to say.
A
Yeah, I don't I don't know anything about this. I don't know where this is from. I don't know anything about her.
C
I. I think she is part.
A
I think she might be Puerto Rican.
C
Yeah. Latin and Native American or. Or indigenous, I think.
A
Yeah, I think so, too. Um, so the judges give their critiques, and the top two are Kennedy and Hershey. Do you agree?
C
Um, no, I. I do agree with Kennedy, but I. Joey J. Should have been up there with Kennedy for sure.
A
I agree. See, I would have put Joey J. And Hershey because I hated Kennedy's Runway so much.
C
Yeah. And I hated Hershey's Runway so much. And. And half her.
B
Her.
C
Her lyrics and. And. Yeah, anyway. Yeah.
A
Yeah, so they go on lip sync, and it is the.
B
The.
A
The ladies who lunch. And this was a fucking syrup. Kennedy tore this shit up. One of the best lip syncs I've seen on Drag Race in years. Amazing.
C
I mean, girl, Hershey. Nobody was even paying attention to Hershey, girl.
A
Like, what was.
C
First of all, what was she wearing? Yeah, she. She was wearing some. Some teacher outfit.
A
Yeah.
C
You know, and not even a good teacher outfit. This was like summer school outfit. And then she was giving no emotion in the face. And.
A
But.
C
But also, I can. I could. I could tell you're distracted because you're watching Kennedy, too. You're mesmerized by Kennedy, too. You can't even lip sync because you're watching Kennedy.
A
Oh, yeah, girl. Kennedy was giving him. Kennedy was performing the fuck out of this song. It was such a total commitment to the bit, to the character, which also, she looked like a black on Gladys from weapons, but it was such a commitment to this thing and pulling out the bottles and pulling them out and being this drunk, it was so good. And when I saw it was lip sync, I was jealous. I was like, bitch, for the next 10 years, you can show up and do this number at a bar, not having to buck, split, jump anything and make coins, doing this number for the rest of your career because of this. Because of dragons. I was jealous because of that.
C
Well, I'll tell you this, too. If. If no one. If nobody has ever seen Kennedy in a show, she's iconically known for bucking the house down, flips, high kicks, all those things that she does. But Kennedy is the most diverse performer that's out there there. She can sell a ballad standing there better than most people who do ballads. She can dance the house down better than most people who can dance the house down. She can sell a gimmick like this better than Most people can sell a gimmick like this. She is so diverse. It is immaculate. It is like what RuPaul said. It's a masterclass in performing. And not only performing, not only selling the bit, but lip syncing. And what people forget is that you have to also be a good lip syncer. That's what they're looking for. You could do all the tricks you want, but if you're not a good lip syncer, that doesn't matter. That's why a great example of one of the best lip syncers from drag race is Ms. Monet X Change. Because now, not only are you a good performer, but you sell every little thing on your lips, and you have to be able to do that. You have to. And she was that. It was amazing.
A
Yeah, it was great to watch. And I think Rue was. I think all the judges, everyone was just so mesmerized by how incredible she was. And she rightfully wins the extra point, giving her. Now, Kennedy has four points. Jay Kennedy has four, and Hershey has two, and Jasmine has.
C
Hershey has three.
A
Jasmine has three.
E
No, Hershey has three because she got one.
C
She had one point last week.
A
Hershey and Sam have three each.
C
Yeah.
A
Yeah. Um, so, yeah, next week is the final week of this bracket. We'll see who was given the points at the top of the next episode. And I can't wait to see. Okay, I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna predict. I'm gonna say Kennedy and Sam are gonna move on.
C
I think Kennedy 100% is moving on. I mean, she's just too good. Everything else. Like. Like her only downfall said this last week. Her only downfall is sewing.
A
Yeah.
C
Other than that, she could do everything. So I think Kennedy is 100% in. I would say Joey J. But they. They've just not let her have it. And she has been that good. Yeah. I think it's going to come down to. Yeah, I think it might be Sam.
A
I think it'll be Sam. Could be Sam and Kennedy. Not unless Joey does a Selena next week, and she wins the challenge and the lip sync and gets points. Maybe she can. Maybe we shall see. All right, y', all, this was like a little extra special long episode. You're fucking welcome. That's because when we have Trinity here, the vibe here is so nice and kind and it's fun to do. Cause Trinity is here, you know, So I. So we just can just talk to each other forever. So we'll see if Bitter the Drag Queen is back next week, and we have to fucking suffer through that shit. But what we will go on to do is go is go do a Patreon exclusive for untucked right now starting at a Patreon. Although again, these fucking boring ass bitches. There's not really much to talk about, but we'll talk about what there is. So we'll see y' all over on the Patreon for untucked.
C
Byeee Bye.
A
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Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Monét X Change (A), Trinity the Tuck (C), plus commentary/support from Jay (E)
Release Date: June 24, 2026
Episode Focus: A deep dive into RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 11, Episode 8, featuring a "Rap Roast" challenge, plus runway critiques and insider tea.
This episode of Sibling Watchery brings a special twist: with Bob the Drag Queen out for her birthday, Monét X Change is joined by guest co-host and Drag Race royalty, Trinity the Tuck. Together, they recap and dissect All Stars 11, Episode 8—titled “Rappin’ Roast Redux”—where queens are tasked with performing a comedic rap roast (instead of a classic roast) and presenting their best "Ladies Who Lunch" looks on the runway.
The hosts break down challenge performances, spill behind-the-scenes truths, get hilariously shady, and offer the candid, expert judging Drag Race fans love—all delivered in their signature, irreverent style.
Who Won the Lip Sync?
Sam Star’s Off-Camera Charisma
Brackets, Point-Giving, and Game Theory
Kennedy & Jasmine’s Friendship
1. Joey J
2. Jasmine Kennedy
3. Kennedy Davenport
4. Hershey LaCourgette
5. Suga Cane
6. Sam Star
Host Rankings (Summarized) [52:47 - 53:58]:
On Borrowed & Bought Costumes
On Product Diversity for Queens of Color
Behind-the-Scenes Designer Drama
This recap captures the comic banter, sharp critiques, and juicy backstage tidbits that make Sibling Watchery a must-listen for Drag Race superfans and new viewers alike!