The One About Sitcoms

Summary

Sibling Rivalry — The One About Sitcoms

Date: November 24, 2025
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Overview

In this laugh-out-loud, deeply personal, and nostalgia-packed episode, Bob and Monét dive into a sprawling conversation about misadventures with cups, the mystery behind height exaggeration, what “hung” really means, gay subcategories (twinks, twunks, and the limits of labels), physical altercations in and out of the gym, dangerous drivers, and ultimately—after much riffing—the world of sitcoms. The duo’s signature blend of shade, warmth, and quick wit keeps the pace lively, peppered by genuine moments and plenty of quotable exchanges.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Cup-gate & Sibling Pet Peeves (Starts ~[01:35])

• The cup saga: Bob and Monét squabble about leaving personal items at each other’s homes, specifically Monét’s Stanley Cup.
  • Bob maintains she always returns it clean; Monét is dubious.
  • Bob: “You received a clean Stanley Cup. By the way, I didn’t just wash the cup, I washed your fucking straw, cause I know you don’t wash your straws.” ([02:52])
  • The conversation hilariously devolves into cup accessories and the emotional symbolism of leaving stuff behind.
• Podcast longevity: The duo reflect on nearly eight years of “Sibling Rivalry,” joking about the prospect of a 24-hour podcast for their ten-year anniversary.

Height & Exaggerations in Dating and Modeling ([07:14]-[11:21])

• Bob and Monét scrutinize the habit of lying about one’s height:
  • Bob insists he is “exactly six-two. Not an inch shorter, not an inch short, not even a centimeter shorter.” ([09:37])
  • Discussion about discrepancies between model stats and reality (Bruno's real height vs. agency claims).
  • They compare Drag Race queens’ heights and groan about the performative inflation of numbers on dating apps.

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Penis Talk: Decoding “Hung” ([11:21]-[15:54])

• Long riff on what "hung" means—subjective, objective, or curve-related?
  • Bob: “Hung is about the size. Just the size, it’s not... When it’s soft, it’s… Hung is hanging. That’s what hung is.” ([11:40])
  • Monét: “Hung is about the erect size of your penis. Not... It has nothing to do with flaccid size.” ([11:53])
  • They banter about “showers vs. growers,” whether big flaccid penises expand, and propose scientific study via the Sibling Rivalry Research Institute.
  • Notable idea: "#Shorey" vs. "#Rory"—which camp are you in?

Sitting with Sitcoms ([27:26]-[32:16])

• Bob admits to loving wrestling maybe more than Drag Race in his youth.
• Cultural criticism of 90s/00s sitcoms:
  • Bob calls out Gilmore Girls: “It is the dumbest fucking show. These people in a diner, they would argue about pancakes for four episodes.” ([28:05])
  • Bob's pick for greatest 90s sitcom: Family Matters—for universal appeal and cultural impact.
  • Extensive “theme song” nostalgia and a live, impromptu theme song quiz:
    • Comparing Family Matters and Full House intros.
    • Noting that both were likely written by the same person.
  • Monét: “Some people say I feel bad for Gen Z. ‘Cause y’all don’t get theme songs.” ([31:20])
  • Gen Z's “last theme song” might be Cocomelon—a faint shadow of the past’s musical glory.

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Queer Culture: Twinks, Facial Hair & Subcategories ([17:03]-[22:44])

• Etiquette and myths around “twinks”:
  • Bob: “I know for a fact there are black guys who identify as twinks. And you and Pepper being like, that’s never happened. Like, it does happen.” ([18:30])
  • Facial hair and twinkdom—does a mustache excommunicate you? Only if it’s not “unnaturally blonde.”
  • Playfully roast friends’ before-and-after photos and their own puberty timelines.
  • Nostalgia for “pork chop sideburns” made cool by The Rock.

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Interpersonal Dynamics & Relationships ([46:22]-[53:54])

• Relationship Habits: Sharing Space

  • Bob and Monét on cohabitation: Do they prefer constant togetherness, or adjacent solitude?
  • Bob: “My ideal thing for me and Andy is for us to be in the home in separate parts. Me doing my thing, you over there doing your thing, but we’re in the house together… To me, that’s quality time.” ([46:34])
  • Monét likes closeness but needs intermittent reassurance.

• Sleeping habits:

  • Some couples have separate bedrooms—Bob admits, “I genuinely... would really like that actually Long term, I think...” ([49:12])
  • Hiding odd bedtime habits (watching “fight videos” in bed).

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Safety, Aggression, and Physicality ([33:13]-[45:34])

• Gym bullying: Call with guest Goodoy, who recounts being physically moved on a gym machine by a man—sparking a broader discussion on how smaller folks get physically pushed around.

• Bob: “If you’re below five-six, people physically move you.” ([37:32])

• Queer safety: Experiences (or lack thereof) of being physically or verbally harassed in public.

  • Bob: “If someone’s looking for like a [queer person] to bash, they’ll look around, they’ll be like, ‘not that one.’” ([38:33])

• Road rage & car violence: Agreeing that escalation isn’t worth it—never bet with someone behind the wheel.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Bob: “Don’t say that on NBC! They’ll sue us.” ([16:52])
• Monét: “At what point did you think it was real? You probably thought it was real.” ([27:29]) — in reference to wrestling’s staged nature.
• On theme songs:
  • Monét: “Some people say I feel bad for Gen Z. Cause y’all don’t get theme songs.” ([31:20])
• On being moved:
  • Bob: “If you’re below five-six, people physically move you.” ([37:32])
• On relationships:
  • Bob: “Come back and tell me that you love me or that I’m pretty or that I’m handsome or that you think I’m good at something. Just randomly tell me I’m really good at something and then go about your business.” ([47:44])

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• Cup & Belongings Debacle: [01:35]–[04:50]
• Podcast Anniversary & Guest Banter: [05:13]–[07:13]
• Height Lies in Queer Dating: [07:14]–[11:21]
• Penis Talk & ‘Hung’ Debate: [11:21]–[15:54]
• Queer Subcategories – Twinks & Facial Hair: [17:03]–[22:44]
• Gym Bullying & Size Dynamics: [33:13]–[38:20]
• Harassment & Physical Presence: [38:20]–[41:05]
• Car Aggression and Safety: [41:05]–[45:00]
• Sleeping, Cohabitation, and Relationship Routines: [46:22]–[53:54]
• Sitcoms & Theme Songs: [27:26]–[32:16]

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Final Thoughts

The episode features Bob and Monét at their bantering best: teetering between shade and sincerity, delving into surprisingly earnest territory—especially around relationships, body image, and identity. The sitcom theme is present, but much of the magic is in the circuitous and hilarious journey to get there.

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Recommended for:
Fans of queer humor, real talk about relationships, and 90s nostalgia—or anyone who wants the inside scoop on the most absurd, joyful queer podcast “siblinghood” around.

“I have looked more or less like this, give or take 50 pounds, since like seventh grade.”—Bob the Drag Queen ([21:33])

Transcript

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm Monet X Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is sibling rivalry.

On this week's episode, we find out what Hung really means.

We finally get a good night's sleep.

And we find out what made Bob say this.

Don't say that. They'll sue us. And we find of what made Monet say this.

At one point. Did you think it was real? You probably thought it was real.

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[Shannon Maldonado]

Lovely.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What were you trying to get in your cup? There's like a cup fiasco.

Oh, yeah. I put my cup here.

You left, you left your cup.

No, I, I, I said I'm, I said.

You said, can I leave my cup here? And we said yes.

Yeah, to be. Because it's part of the thing you didn't say.

Will you guys wash my cup? And care for you? Say, can we leave it here? And we, We. Your cup is here. It's, it's safe.

Okay, great.

But you, but you made it sound like we did something shady. There's a sink upstairs. How do you think we wash our. I walk up there and wash my cups. Okay, but you did a thing.

You're like, oh, so now that is saying something. Because before, when you did it.

Well, what did I do? What did I say when I did it? It wasn't a thing.

Oh, but now, but now it is.

When you do it, it is a thing.

Okay, got it. For sure.

So what are you telling.

What is your the queen of the contradiction.

What is your silence saying?

The queen of the contradiction.

Like if I leave my jacket, if I leave my pants at your house. Well, Bob.

Yes. You have left clothes in my home.

You didn't launder them.

I did. Yes. You didn't launder them. Yes, I did. You have left cups. When you left your Stanley cup at my home for a week, you didn't wash it. Yes, we did. You received a clean Stanley Cup.

It still smelled like water. When I got it back, it smelled like water.

You received a clean Stanley Cup.

And not.

By the way, I didn't just wash the cup. I washed your fucking straw. Cause I know you don't wash your straws.

I do wash my straws.

You have the little thing that you put in there.

Yes, it comes with it anyways. What do you think, I'm some fucking garbage bale kid who doesn't wash their belongings?

So when you leave your belongings at my home for years, by the way. Cause you always leave a little piece of yourself behind, which might be some type of thing that you do. You're going through.

Yeah, I'm losing my mind. No, if anyone lose their mind, it's me.

[Monet X Change]

No, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The thing about people who leave stuff at people's homes, they just like to leave a piece. Not like to, but they just. They spontaneously leave a piece of themselves behind to always be remembered.

No, you don't.

I'm not doing that. Subconsciously. It's happening. It might be happening.

I'm forgetting. I did not leave my Stanley cup because I. Which, by the way, I'm so over that fucking Stanley cup, girl.

We were trying to tell you, y', all, when the Sandy cup was a gift. This nigga would take that big pink sandal cup everywhere. And I'm like, yes, it's my Stanley Cup. I drink my Stanley Cup.

Well, it was a gift. And I was trying to drink more water. But then you know what it is? The cup is not waterproof. So what I really. It is the worst airport cup you can have. Because you know when you have two suitcases and you have your cup in your hand, the cup's gonna go sideways.

Yeah. When you have your hand on the. On the handle.

And. But then I found this other cup. I can't remember the name of it, but it actually is waterproof. And I prefer that one more. But it's just. It's a lot. But it still is a lot to carry around.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then you had. You had a fucking lanyard on it. You were doing too much I didn't

have a lanyard on my.

You were someone's seventh grade math.

That's not true. I didn't have a lanyard hanger. I did not have a standing up hanger for my hand.

Did it have like a. A satchel like. Like thing that you. You put it like a side saddle thing? You had that on there.

No, I did not.

You didn't?

No.

One of y' all hoes is that fucking saddle.

I was like carrying my Stanley purse like a. Like a, like cup. Like a purse.

I thought you. Well, you.

You love purses.

Put in the purse.

I do love purse. Purse.

Purse first.

But I don't turn everything to a purse.

Purse Purse productions.

I don't carry. I don't. I don't turn everything in my life into a purse and carry it on my person.

But anyway.

But your cup is here. Do you want me to start washing your cup for you? I'm happy to do so.

Oh, that would be very nice. Thank you so much.

Who does that?

You are such a fucking. Like.

I'm a what?

I can't. You can and you will.

I can't. And you have for eight years.

And you're gonna do it later. For eight years.

The podcast.

Oh, yeah. No, it's nine years. We decided, right? No, 20, 18.

It's based on a man, Jacob. As long as me and Jacob been together, it's how long we do the

[Monet X Change]

podcast and we've been together. It's going to be eight years in like December, I think. Or maybe wait, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we're. We're coming up on eight years. Oh, my God.

We could have a third grader.

What are we gonna do for our 10 year anniversary?

We gotta do something big. Something big.

What's big, though, is it a 24 hour podcast?

Ooh, a 24 hour podcast. That would be fun. I'm into that. Jacob is. We can have shifts.

Jacob's so loud into it.

Like, sit here for 24 hours. I think we have to sit here and live in this space for 24 hours.

Yeah. We can also podcast from different areas too. We can do different things. It doesn't have to be one long podcast. We can bring in guests, we can play games.

Just the two of us talking for 24 hours.

I mean, we would do that in real life, but we could play video. We could have a video game segment.

Yeah.

We can bring in some of our greatest guests.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Who are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who are greatest guests?

Bianca, Naomi, Kim, Naomi Kim Mateo. No. Nick?

No.

Who else? We don't really have that many guests.

We don't have that many. Lizzo.

Lizzo.

Lizzo can come over.

One of my favorite episodes is honestly us yelling while gravity sits on camera.

Because you wanted to fight when gravity was there.

I want to fight. I was being myself. You switch it up when company comes over.

Yeah, Bob. Yes, you're right. When we have guests on our podcast, I try to not be competitive.

You put on a show and fight

and make them feel uncomfortable. That video, Gravity just there. We are just.

It's so funny. It's hilarious.

So, yes, I do try to do a little different. We have guests to feel more accommodating.

Should we book more guests that would sit there while we yell each other? We should put Mikey on the show. Oh, God. Put Mikey right in the middle.

[Monet X Change]

We have Bruno coming next week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bruno Alcantara.

Oh, word. His dad's name is Alcantara.

Alcantra.

I thought he was really, really tall.

Like, was really like a 6.

[Monet X Change]

5.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm taller than Bruno.

I realize you never met him on the show.

I mean, and I see him at the bars all the time. Like we walk past each other. But then he was on the cruise I just did.

Right.

The drag stars.

Jesse was there too.

[Monet X Change]

Clarify. He's six three.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bruno is not six' three.

[Monet X Change]

On Brand Models and Talent Agency, it says six' three. And on IMDb it says six' two.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love Bruno. Bruno is not six' three dot Are

y' all the same height?

Google picture me and Bruno next to each other. I am taller than Bruno.

Out of heels.

Out of heels. I'm. I've never met Bruno in drag. I've never met Bruno in drag. I don't have my phone, but. But there's us side by side and I am definitely like an inch, at least an inch taller than Bruno. And we're going to find out in a week. Yeah, I don't understand, like, not just saying how tall you are.

Well, I think cuz for model casting and stuff like that, you want to educate. Yeah, but I think as. Because some people, like, once I'm there, I'm there. Like if you hire a model, whatever, and they show up, you're going to fire them when they show up. He still. He still looks like how he looks.

Well, what do you know? The pants are short Now. Now my pants look short. Cuz you lied about your height.

They still fit him anyway. Typically.

Oh, now my pants look long. Cuz you lied about height.

This will fit them. Typically and do a little. Little. Little stitch, little hem.

It's deceptive. It's like the dick things. I've never actually measured someone's dick on from meeting them all. That would be crazy. But I want to be that person.

Oh, for sure. I want to. Cuz more often times than not, people are not the size that they say they are. Yeah, everyone swears they're XL 8 inches. I'm like, just not.

I really want to be the one to plot it to.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

To.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To. To bust out a measuring tape and be like this trend online where this guy goes around and he's asked or this woman or someone. They ask guys, how tall are you? And they say their age, their height. And then she goes, can you verify that? And then she pulls a texture and they all start. They all start changing it up.

Andy lied on hinge.

Well, well, well, well, well.

Andy on hinge. He said he was six two and he's not six two. Andy is maybe six six one. Maybe six one. He said he's six two. I knew all the way. He's like, I'm six. I'm like, you're not. I'm taller than Andy and you're six two.

I am even six two. Not an inch shorter, not an inch short, not even a centimeter shorter.

Yeah.

Or taller. I am exactly six two.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Andy's six one. But he swears he's six two.

What's the point?

I don't know. I think, I think he's more six six. I think he's more six and a half.

How tall do you think Taylor is?

Taylor is. I know Taylor six three or six

two and a half six. He's taller than me. Six two and three quarters. Six two and three quarters. Yeah. Like I know. I know when someone is taller than me. I pretty much have everyone who's like taller than me documented in my brain.

[Monet X Change]

How tall do you think plastic tr is?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Plastique is probably 510 or 5 9.

I would say 510. No 5 9.

[Monet X Change]

Google says 6 2.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No way.

Plastic tiara is not 6 2.

Is under.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, 5 9.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob. What? You're a 62 from.

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm so she. She did a tick tock where she said I'm six three in heels. And then I think also not. Somebody was. Okay, well, I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, well, depending on the heel. I've seen plastic where those crazy platform and the heel. So she. She could have been six ring heels sometimes.

So that she's wearing.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's that?

Those Pleasers.

Five, nine.

That's six inches.

Six. A six inch hill.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, okay, Okay. I mean, they got me taller than me. Yes, Cam is taller than me.

It's Kim.

Me and Kim might be the same height.

I think y' all are the same height.

Acid Betty's taller than me. Thorgy's taller than me.

As is taller than you. Yeah. No.

Yes.

No.

Or at least semi height. Thorgy's taller than me. Like a little bit like a coach taller than me.

Well, that's. That's all them.

The dreadlocks.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of the way that she's oppressed our people.

But people do lie about their. I just don't get it. I do not understand it because is so easy to verify. Your penis is easy to verify.

But also, guys like. Also the term hung is probably subjective, right? Cuz hung can be. You can hung. You can be hung a little bit or you can hung a lot. So hung is.

Is by hung not about the curvature of your penis, I think.

No, they're saying hung is like how hung you are.

Yeah.

No, so I think that's. But I think that's how guys are weaseling onto that.

How.

What's hung?

Hung is about the size. So if you're the girth, just. Just the size, it's not. So your dick can be pointing straight up and you can be hung, but

when it's soft, it's. Hung is hanging. That's what hung is.

I think.

Am I crazy?

Hung is about the erect size of your penis. Not. It has nothing to do plasticize.

I think.

Yes. And I think that if your flaccid penis is small, but your erect penis is standing straight up and big, you're hungry, I think.

Yes, but also if you're. If you're a flaccid dick is. Liz. If you're a shower and you're hung, you're also hung.

But does it grow to a large size?

If you're flaccid hung, you're gonna erect hung? Yes.

No. Everyone who looks meaty flaccid is not. Does not necessarily grow into a giant penis.

I disagree.

[Monet X Change]

Not a giant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's no.

Not giant.

I know for a fact that's not true. No, I. What do you mean you disagree? I can tell you for a fact. I know guys who have big meaty flaccid penises.

Hung.

Yes.

And then it gets soft. It gets smaller.

No, but it doesn't become big. Like for example, if your penis is like 5 inches soft, that's a lot of Flaccid penis. And then it just firms up. It doesn't get longer, it just gets firm. No, 5 inches is a lot of flaccid penis.

I don't think I've ever seen a flaccid five inch. Have you?

Yes. And then it just firms up. It doesn't get, it does not get bigger. It just maybe a little thicker, but it just kind of just stiffens.

I think if, if I see a hung flaccid dick, it gets to be

hung for the most time. Yes. But I know for a fact there are penises that just get harder. They don't get bigger.

So this, this, this is a, this is an anomaly.

Well, I will say that some people

comment below if your penis is.

If your penis gets harder, not bigger. But, but I also have seen guys who. The larger the penis, the less they grow.

Because it doesn't get fully hard.

No, no, no, just. Cause there's just, there's less growth. Like smaller penises grow more than. Smaller flaccid penises grow more than large flaccid penises.

In my experience, smaller flaccid penises grow more like. And grow. I just saying girth like length or

either just grow mass.

Uh huh. More than what?

Larger flaccid penises.

I don't know if that's, I don't know if that's bullish.

I think we should do a study and I think that what I'm saying would prove to be true.

I don't know. I don't know if that's true. But how do you conduct the study? Should we have the sibling rivalry research

institute because of dicks? Well, I'm happy to do the research. Let me just start by saying that I am happy to do the field research, but I feel like it's because

I

here's. I'm talking about exponential growth. We should put hashtag growthry, no growery,

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

no growth,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

sibling growing. Now let us know. Are you hashtag Shorey, hashtag Rory? Because hear me out now. These penises. When a penis. Let's say the penis is gonna become seven and a half inches.

Uh huh.

This is a pretty substantial penis here.

That is a very. Yes.

Now let's say flaccid. It is 4 inches.

Uh huh.

That's pretty substantial flaccidity too. We have now gone. We have gone up three and a half inches. Three and a half. Now let's say, let's say you're gonna make it to seven and a half. But now you started at two and A half. This is substantial growth.

I guess I don't see that all.

You're growing exponentially more.

I don't see that. I don't think I've ever seen that. You know, you remember when Orlando Bloom's. Him and Katy Perry when they were together and there was that boat, that picture of him on the boat and his dick was out, barely.

Yeah.

So I.

But Katie, I never saw her for Lando Bloom. Can I say, I don't see what everyone was going on about Orlando Bloom. I was like, that just. That went right over my head.

But back in the day when that was popular, I think we would have discussed that on sibling current events or anything.

Oh, we probably do. This does look right now, right?

But then. And then I remember the world going off being like it was the straight world. We're going like, that's a huge dick. And the gays were like, child.

But I think this is.

The straighties are like, oh, my God.

All the gays were like, girl, I don't think they gays.

Yes, they did.

No, no, no. You didn't even.

Sorry.

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Don't say that on NBC. They'll sue us. No, I'm saying I don't think that gay dicks are. I think. You know what it is? Gay guys just see a lot of dicks. Oh, yeah, yeah.

No, Yeah. I don't think gay dicks are. I don't think gay dicks are big. I think is like, girl, we've seen it. Wait, you know what I mean?

But I think there is a study that says that gay guys are taller.

Really?

I think. I think I saw a study that said that gay men are taller than straight men.

We have a.

We have.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We.

We have a. A pandemic of an influx of mass. Mass amounts of twinks everywhere. They're not bigger.

We. I've discussed this. I don't think twink correlates to your height. Twink correlates to your age. And your. And the. In the, in the, the size of your someone is your percentage.

Would you say Christopher Versace's boyfriend is.

I don't even know who that first person is. So I certainly know his boyfriend.

You know, Christopher Versace. She won Drag Race.

I thought he said Christopher Sachi. I was like, I don't know Christopher Sachi, and I sure as hell don't know his boyfriend. Is Crystal Versace's boyfriend a twink? Yes.

Right. That's what I said. Who isn't arguing with.

This is. What is the debate?

No, that's not her boyfriend.

Oh, well, that guy in that picture with the crystal was a twink.

Damn. We can't see a person.

Probably still is.

No, I guess we can't see him. She is so fucking pretty. I can't. Anyway, well, no, that's not him. That's not him.

Whatever.

No, that's. That's. That's her. That's her bestie. That's. That. That's her Bob Dee Dee.

Well, her best friend is also a twink. Yeah, yeah.

And I would.

Okay.

Do you think facial hair can take away from somebody being a twink?

Yes. It doesn't always, but it certainly can. Right? So I think what we'll take away is, you know, the. The way to keep facial hair and be a twink is if your facial hair. And this is. Again, I saw you in Pep's conversation, by the way. I just want to point out, I am not. I'm telling you. I know for a fact there are black guys who identify as twinks. And you and Pepper being like, that's never happened. Like that. It does happen. There are black guys with empires, Twinks. You can be like, no one's ever done that. That's not true.

Okay, we didn't say never. We're just saying. We're just saying that you did.

We're just saying it often, but you did say it.

Black people don't often. Like, I rarely meet black people that are like, yeah, twink, or a beer or whatever.

Anyway, I think what will stop you from being Twinkies? The facial hair has to be blonde. Unnaturally blonde.

If you are a twink and your facial hair is blonde, you did get

to be Twinkie, but it has to be unnaturally blonde.

So if you're a little twink with, like, a little goatee, that means that you no longer.

If you have all. You go ahead.

If you have all the things of a twink, the age, the size, blah, blah, blah, you have everything, but then you just have. You have.

How much facial hair.

Are we talking a mustache and a goatee situation?

What color is it?

You're. You're white. With. With black Hair.

It's black.

Yeah, like one B.

Maybe you could be. Yeah, maybe. Maybe I'm not the operative of all twins, but maybe. But if it were unnaturally blonde, like dyed blonde, then yeah.

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

The quote about black twinks from the podcast was, that's not for us.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. That's what I'm saying. I, I, I, I don't see that for her. I don't see when that happens. Like, I, I, I can count. I, I can't even know who in my life right now a black person that's, that identifies as like in, like a subcategory. What, what is, is, Is Nick a twink? No. What is Nick? What, what is Nick? Nick is a twunk. Nick is a twas. A twas.

I don't know what Nick is.

Nick was a twas.

He was a cartoon character is what Nick is.

Taylor, when were, when, when did you cross over from, from being a twink? When you got facial hair because you like, you were the twinkie when you were young. I could tell you were tall. Twin.

Well, Taylor's always have a shirt. Taylor's got fish hair for a long time.

College. Okay, so then what were you?

Taylor's. Taylor's saying he was not twinkie.

So what were you then?

And he's just saying he was skinny.

But what was your subcategory if you had to do an otter? Okay, that is a twig mama.

Well, this is, look at this old television. It's getting twinkie over here. We're still in Twingtown.

We're still.

We are still in Twink town. We have not left such a little cutie. We have not left Twing town in a long time.

Taylor. That is a Twinkerella camera, by the way.

And Jay, just go through all of Taylor's profile pictures. Just blast them random. There he is. There he is.

Okay. That's when she came out of Twinkdom.

That was one.

That was, that was January 29th. January 6th, January 29th, 2014.

I gotta say, sometimes, like, people who look so different from their, like, I gotta be honest, I have looked more or less like this, give or take 50 pounds. My, since like seventh grade. If, if I was not even famous and you saw me and you've not seen me since seventh grade, you'd be like, oh my God, that's Caldwell like you. I just look the same people. Taylor looks like a different person in some of those pictures.

I don't think so. Like the, the ones without the facial hair. Yeah, but, but I think. Did you When. When did you start growing facial hair? I started wearing facial hair in ninth grade.

In seventh grade.

Yeah. So it's pork chops.

Iburns in seventh grade, the Rock made them popular.

So, yeah. So I think. I think the reason why. If you.

There's no way any of y' all watch this, but, like, when I had my fucking pork chops, I can't wait. I was. It was. You don't know how iconic I was, baby, when I tell you I was the talk of the town with pork chop sideburns.

What makes them pork chop? Because they go like, pork chops, they

go straight from here and they go all the way to the corner of your mouth. They're sharp chops. They're called. No, lamb chops are these things, aren't they? Chop the chops. Mutton chops. Pork chop sideburns are, like, the thing that go all the way to here, right? Yeah. Pork chop sideburns. That's what I had. Go to a black guy, though. That's what I had. So maybe. Yeah, no, maybe not here. Sorry. They go. Yeah, they were down like that. I have. I have pork chop sideburns because the Rock. The Rock made them really popular work.

Yeah. So I think it's because you probably have a facial. I think the reason why Taylor looks so different because he just does not have any facial hair now. He has a full.

But you've seen people who just look so different.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen that for sure.

And they just, like, don't even, like. Just different people.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you feel like you look more or less the same?

I think I look more or less the same, yeah. I think the only thing that's really different is my. Is my. Is my hair, but I lost that when I was 22.

And your weight, you. You've also fluctuated. You used to be. Don't, Monet, don't put up a. Do what? You need to put a picture up.

I'll comment on my body. Thank you so much.

I'm not commenting. I'm saying that you lost weight. I got it. Oh, my God. I'm not reading. I'm sorry if that offended. I'm not trying to be.

You're like, bitch. I mean, Monet, you are a fat bitch back there. Look at you.

Do not say that, you big, bloated, white back ho. But I am saying that there have been points in my life, like here, where I was very skinny. You know, I'm just trusting Jay to be kind here. And there was moments like here Where I was a little thick.

When I think of opc and then you have like now opc, I think of that one that you always post of you and you like doing this and all your dreads are like going like that. It's like a picture of you in college or something.

You're like, oh, my God. Jesus. I don't always post that picture.

I didn't say always. That's what I think about.

Yeah, that's. Yeah. I was 19 in that picture. 19 years old.

How do I look? Like when I was 19 and I

still had my little. I had a picture, but I also wasn't really allowed to have much facial hair in college because I worked in the food service industry. And you can't have a beard at Chick Fil A and you can't have a beer Tuesday. And that's where I worked at.

When I see people with those, I know they probably serve some type of function for cleanliness.

Whatever. Facets.

The face nets. The face nets are so dumb.

They're cunty.

They're so stupid.

They're cunty. I don't know.

They have them on the thing, but they have neck beard. So like, you're not even covering all the facial hair you're allegedly covering.

Oh. Do you remember when people used to wear their mask below their nose?

Yes, I used to do that. Cause at first they were annoying.

Then why are you wearing the mask?

Because I was like, at least I'm covering 50% of the. Because I mouth breathe sometimes. So I'm covering my bases there.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

That's not.

[Monet X Change]

That's not how that works.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I believe that if you have it under your nose, you're just breathing through your nose at this point you're. No one splits the difference.

I do.

No one goes, now I'm going to switch over to mouth breathing. Now I'm going to go back to nostril.

I do sometimes.

That's not true.

And he's a. And he's a big mouth breather at night. Last night I had to give him the only elbow. I gave him the people's elbow last night. This would not stop snoring. I literally was like, you remember that move?

So do you remember how the.

He was always work? No.

Okay, so the rock. What he would do is he would hit you with a rock bottom and then he would put you in the

middle of the ring.

And then he would use his feet to collect your arms by you. He would go on either side and use his feet to like scoop your arms. So you were like, Laying like this. And then he would. The Rock is one of the greatest showmen in the history of wrestling. I'm telling you right now. There are only a few who do showmanship like the motherfucking Rock. And then the Rock would take the people's elbow pad off. He'd take the elbow pad off the people's elbow, and he would take the elbow pad and then he would throw it into the audience. And then he would start to do his hands like this.

Conducting.

No, no. He's like. He's showing that he's about to run from side to side. So then he runs, and then he throws his entire body against the top rope. And then he jumps over your body, and then he runs, turns, throws his back against the top rope again. Sometimes he would do it an extra third time, just for kicks. Jump over your body again, hit his back, and then he would come. Then he would swing his leg around real slow so he's on one foot. He would go real slow, and then he would slap his elbow, and then he would hit you in the chest. And then usually your feet would explode into the air. I mean, y'.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The theatrics of wrestling. Like, I can't even.

Wrestling.

Wrestling.

Wrestling is crazy.

Like, it is, I gotta say. Like, I'm trying to wonder if I liked wrestling as much as I currently like Drag Race. And I think I liked it more.

You like wrestling more?

4.

You're also younger, though. Like, at one point, did you think it was real? You probably thought it was real when

I was pretty young, yeah. But then I kind of got to the point where I kept being like. Like, guys, we know it's fake. Like, stop telling us.

Would they say it was fake?

No. People would be like, well, it's fake. And I'd be like, we know. Like, guys, stop. Like, that's not why I'm watching it.

Like, yeah.

I'd be like. And did you know that you're the. One Tree Hill's not real.

I got One Tree Hill.

Did anyone tell you Dawson Creek's not real?

Can we talk about. Can we wake up and have a conversation about the ridiculosity that was the show? Gilmore Girls.

I have never seen a single episode.

It is the dumbest fucking show. These people in a diner, they would argue about pancakes for four episodes. It was such a stupid show.

What is it about a diner? What doesn't sound too bad? Gilmore Girls. Gilmore Girls. What's about a diner? I don't. Well, what's wrong with the show about a diner?

Because there would be any. There would never be any real drama. At least when you have Waitress, the Broadway show, there was like a pregnancy. There was a thing. They were like all the Earl and all these things. Gilmore Girls. Nothing ever happened to Gilmore Girls.

But what about Seinfeld? Seinfeld's a good show.

I didn't watch Seinfeld, but Seinfeld was

like, famously a show about nothing.

I never.

I didn't know that.

I've never. I've never seen Seinfeld. I've never seen Everybody Loves Raymond. I've never seen Friends. I've never seen a lot of those shows. I mean, you remember Carolina the City? Never seen it. I didn't see if I knew existed. What do you think? What do you think is the greatest 90s sitcom that we had?

Family Matters. Easily. I don't even have to think about it.

Living Single, I don't know.

As a young person, Family Matters is more geared toward me. Living Single was geared toward a more adult audience. So I watched it. But not the way that my mom was like. It's that. That I feel like Living Single was much more for adults and Family Matters was for the whole family.

Hence the name Family Matters.

And just Steve Urkel being. Also the cultural impact of Family Matters versus Did I do that? I mean. And also the theme song.

See, we talked about this before. I always mix that up.

Mix it up with what? Full House.

Full House. This is very similar. Okay, wait, Jacob, hold on. Wait. Can you fling the screen and can you play the beginning of.

I can just tell.

You don't even need to do.

I can just tell you which one's which one.

I want to see if I can tell because I don't know. Wait, don't show us. We don't want to see the family. The Family Matters theme song and the Full House theme song.

I won't know instantly.

I won't look.

They are. They're probably written and performed by the same person.

Yeah, we found it out. Okay, now stop. Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. Okay, and then for the second one. Well, now, because the Taylor reacted. I know which one it is.

I know which one that was.

It was like. Yes,

but at first I did not know. That's so funny. Well, but also the feminist has more souls. Like,

It's a recognition.

Whereas the

Listen has no soul.

That's how the white people.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Yeah,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

whatever happened to predictability?

The Milkman.

But I mean, when. Obviously when the Family Matter song starts, that fucking crazy ass piano lick

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

you

[Bob the Drag Queen]

know, is there reacting? Just singing. Singing on TGI Friday.

Yeah.

Love it. Gratitude. Some people say I feel bad for Gen Z. Cause y' all don't get theme songs.

I know the theme songs are gone.

And even.

And I think some. No, some shows have theme songs, but we have the ability now to skip intro.

Well, Gen Z's last theme song was Cocomelon.

I didn't even know that one.

Do you remember?

Do you remember? Did you ever watch Roly Polio?

No, I'm a little. No, I think this one is that

so long farewell to you, my friend. Goodbye for now.

Were they doing all that on Roller Coyoli? So long, baby. Was rollerball doing all that? You remember liking to the zebra with soul?

The zebra was sold.

Oh, the antelope. There's like an antelope, but you see Lion King too.

No, let's take a break. We're talking about the zebra soul.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we're back. And if you hate an ad break, you do not have to ever experience an ad break on slip rivalry again by going to the sibling rivalry Patreon. Go to Patreon. Have a sibling rivalry podcast. And I don't know what. I'm so gassy.

Girl, you're gassy. You be short circuited. Something's going on with you.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'M burping. And I'm not talking through my burp like Rick Sanchez. I'm not short circuit. Oh, you are.

Cause I am getting it over here. I know exactly what you. This morning you had Popeyes. I can smell it.

You saw the bag. No, I didn't. Yes, you did.

No, I did not.

You saw the bag.

That smells like a Popeyes circle.

You're a lying sack of shit. You saw the bag. You don't have this refined of a fucking factory system.

[Shannon Maldonado]

I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you had the spicy sauce on it. You're.

Shut the fuck up.

And you had seven fries. Yeah, you did. I know you did.

First of all, I had the. Can I give y' all a little secret? I want to get y' all a little secret. I've been eating so unhealthy, and it's been so great. Cause I can't go to the gym. If I can go to the gym, I'm off. I'm wondering now if I can't go to the gym. I'm off the rails. I don't give a fuck no more. So you get the Popeyes crispy sandwich. Buy one, get one for free on Uber Eats, at least in LA right now. And then you get the signature hot wing sauce that covers the wings. Put that on your bread.

Brioche bread on your.

On your chicken.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Oh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Top and bottom. And then you dip. And then I get bacon, and I get cheese. And then I eat that.

And you should put some. Some Monet Exchange Protein Ranch on there, too.

Been using the protein Ranch. I use it almost every single time. Yep. Every single time.

Oh, I love that you use that.

And I share with people.

I love that you use that.

And I. I told you, Chris Wayne was like, is this the Protein Ranch?

Did he like it last night?

No.

Chris Range B. Chris Ranch. He said, Chris Ranch.

Chris Ranch. Chris Ranch has great posture. He's like.

Yeah. He goes to the gym like, eight times a week. Miss. Miss.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

She's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's a pole girl.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He saw go get, like, bullied at the gym the other day.

We didn't get what happened. Tell us the story.

Well, apparently, Godoy got bullied at the gym.

Why?

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Good. I think people bully Godoy because she's so tiny.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She'. It.

[Monet X Change]

Can we call her and get the full story?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do we. Do we need to roll up to the gym?

I mean, maybe. And I can try to remember, if possible. Doy was at the gym getting bullied, you know, doing thigh. The thigh machine. No. Kick. The kickbacks.

Uhhuh. The glute. The glute. Kickback.

And this guy started trying to, like, physically move Good's body. That's what Goodoy said there.

Certain people I feel.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

And then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then Chris came up and was like, that was crazy. Oh, good. I'm talking about how you got bullied at the gym the other day.

You're. You're on the podcast.

You're on the podcast, by the way.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Oh, my God, girls. Yes, I got bullied at the gym.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tell us the story. Because I just said we need to roll up.

I don't know why.

Good. Doy. But I feel protective over you.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Well, you know, it's happened a couple of times where, like, bleep this out. Like, try me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're not believing that part.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you were on. You were on the glue kickback machine. And what happened?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

So I was using the cable machine, and I was using it as a kickback machine, and so I was only using half of it. But, you know, like, I have long legs, so I'm, like, kicking. I didn't want to hit anyone. And. And this guy comes up to me and, like, taps my shoulder, but, like, pretty aggressive. And I was like, yes. And he goes, well, can. Like, hey, like, can I use the other half of your machine? And I was like, what? And he goes, can I use the other half of your machine? And I was genuinely confused because I'm like, well, why are you tapping my shoulder in the middle of my set? And then he gets between me and the machine, and he physically moves me, like, pushes me over. He goes, you go over here? And I go over here. And I said, no. I was like, you can wait your turn. And he goes, what? It's just so. And I went, no, stand over there. Like, wait your turn and don't touch me. So I went all carrying on his ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I told the management, physically moving you is crazy.

They only try because Goodoy's like, 51 or 5 2. Thank you. We love you. Bye. And then. And then Chris came over, was like, oh, my God, that was crazy.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Okay, bye.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, bye. Physically moving physically is because you're a small person. I've never been physically moving.

When I tell you people just do not try. Nate, do people try with you?

Me either.

And they know I'm people. Just when I hear about people getting, like, gay bash and stuff, I'm like, what? You guys are getting gay? People are being. What? This is happening.

Wait, Jacob, have you ever been physically moved by someone because you're smaller yes. Really?

Patty.

Patty gets mad. Patty has a whole lot of people touching him, girl. People physically move Patty too. And Patty's five' three. Jacob, you're five five, six. Five six. The door is five' one. So I think if you're below five' six, people physically move you.

[Monet X Change]

I've been physically moved by Free.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Free the drag queen.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, he's listening because I was walking

[Monet X Change]

too slow in front of him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That sounds about right.

[Monet X Change]

I was also physically moved by your Aunt Hazel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hazel, yeah, it was, it was.

We were in the hotel room and

[Monet X Change]

she was trying to get by me and she was moved me out of the way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hazel's 51, 52, mind you. Taylor, do you get physically moved? Cuz Taylor's tall but not big.

Yeah, he's tall.

Rob, do you get moved? Rob says it has happened. Rob is about five seven, five, nine.

[Monet X Change]

Five seven and a half.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

57 and a half and probably a buck 40.

45.

A buck 45. So. So small.

People get moved, I guess.

Y. When I tell you people don't moved, never. People be like, if. If I always say if someone's looking for like a to bash, they will look around, they'll be like, not that one. Like, I'm.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

I'm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna pick an easier fight.

This. This look big and scary. Yeah. I've never been physically moved or. Or ever.

You say the big one's so terrified.

Yeah, I've never been. I've never had that happen. Even at the gym. Like, I've never, never, not once. Nothing like that.

The only time I've ever had anyone even like call me a name on the street is once we've passed each other, like never coming at me. Like, once we have passed and there is like 20ft of distance between us, then they'll throw out like a. One time a guy was like. I was walking home in drag and this guy was like. As I pass and he goes, ugh, be a man. I just remember him going, be a man. And then I remember one time, me, Azraya Leapolitan and Delilah Brooks, we're crossing the street at Massacre Garden and we're all big. All of us are big.

Yeah.

Like Delilah, Azra, Leah, me. All tall. Everyone's over five' ten. Two of them are pretty big. Solid group of queers.

Yeah.

And then they were like. But once they. Once we had crossed the street and traffic started going again, or a lot of people then they were like faggots, you see? And it was after a game, was like letting out who who plays at the Madison Garden?

The Knicks or the Knicks?

The Nets. Who is it?

The Nets are in Brooklyn.

The rank.

The Nets are in Brooklyn. The Knicks are madisongill Garden.

So it's some sports team.

Yeah. I. In New York, I have to say, I live in New York all my life. I mean, I think maybe when I was younger. I sure have. But as an adult, I have never been called faggot or anything.

It's not because New York is liberal. It's because people just are not going to want to fight you.

Yeah, I mean, I've been called slurs. Here I was, I did Selena City's gig downtown of Kiso, and as I was leaving, I was in full drag and I was leaving across the street, someone called me a faggot. Across the street.

But how. Yeah, across the street.

Across the street.

Yeah, across the street. You really have to do the cost benefit analysis and ask yourself, do I actually want to fight this person if this comes to blows, Do I have what it takes to get into a physical altercation with this person? Yeah, I mean, I've had this. These scenarios in my mind where something will happen and I'll think to myself, I want to speak up, but can I take this person if they get crazy on me?

I've had that thought recently or. I'm sure I have in my. Though.

But I have been thinking lately in cars, I don't try anyone in a car.

Gun. I've seen so many viral videos.

Guns, they're. They are. You are in the weapon. You are driving the weapon. And I know I'm not willing to do anything. I know I'm. I'm a. When it comes to. In the car, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna break check you. I'm not gonna swerve in front of you. And I would never hit you with my car. I know for a fact I'm not gonna do anything. So if it come. If it comes to aggression in a car, I'm gonna try to either speed off or pull into the police station. I don't give a. I have to do anything to get away from you because I'm not gonna do nothing.

I see a bunch of videos of people trying to run people over at gas station. Specifically. Specifically, like there's altercation at a gas station. One person getting in the car and now we're trying to run the other person, the person who's trying to get run over. What's crazy to me is they're not going into a building or running away. And they're like, you. I bet you're not gonna do it. And then they just. And it's just they're dancing with this car. Like, that's crazy to me.

Why would you bet someone that they're not going to do something to you when they are in possession of the weapon to do this and trying to

do it to you?

Because, like, I bet. Is that. Is that a bet you're Willy. You're really willing to. Really willing to lose?

Yeah. Well, also.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. Yeah, I don't. I guess the thought. There is no. Because there's no. If they do it hit you with their car, there's no scenario that you're not fucked up. Like, getting hit by a vehicle sounds awful. The.

Almost the worst.

Like, like, like the, the. The. The damage that will happen in the moment. But sometimes if you're fine for whatever reason, the damage later on. Bitch.

You might have internal bleeding by a multiple ton or at least 1 1/2 ton.

Vehicle item. Yeah.

Being lunged at you at at least 10 miles an hour.

Well, I was also. Also been seeing these viral videos of people like, getting hit by like a semi truck. Like this guy, he was getting into. Wait.

And fights.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Jesus Christ.

Like, this guy was getting into his vehicle. He had pulled over the side of the highway. For whatever reason he was coming back into. To get on his. He was in the shoulder getting into his vehicle. And the guy behind the thing, behind the thing was kind of dozing off a little bit. And he careens into. And just like takes the guy getting into his truck clean off. And that's where the video ends. But it's like, you're done, right?

I once saw you're cooked a deer. When I used to work for the Missoula Children's Theater. I would drive through. I just drove all around the country, basically. And I one time saw a deer leaping out of the woods to go across the highway and it got hit. The back half of the deer got hit by a semi truck going 80. What do you think happened?

I think the deer got hit and fell down and got up and ran away. Deers are very resilient, Monet.

The back of that deer exploded.

Oh, God.

Like a balloon.

Like, you saw this with your own two eyes, Monet?

With my eyes. When I tell you. It was like a balloon got popped.

It's like a scene from the Boys.

Yeah.

Head popper, guts everywhere.

Completely exploded. The front half of the deer is trying to.

Oh, no.

Now. Crawl through traffic. But I was the. I don't think we people how powerful these fucking. These is like a semi truck. Like, there are moments where, like, cars will careen under a semi truck and the truck won't even stop.

What was the name?

It'll just keep going.

Jamesville. Yeah, the Mansfield law.

It'll just rip the car in half and keep going. Also, you know they're designed to lose

wheels, like, so they can keep on going.

Yes.

Yeah. Also, why do they need 16 wheels

so they can keep going? Because if. If they're driving so much, I'm assuming I might be wrong. But if you ever seen these ripped up, you ever see all these tire shreds on the street? Yeah, they just rip up. They just keep going. Isn't that crazy? Your whole tire just unexploded.

[Shannon Maldonado]

You just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He just fix it at the next stop.

You know, there's one time after college. After college, but I had heard that truck drivers make so much money. I was like, could I be a truck driver?

Wasn't after college, you say, not after college.

Maybe it was during college.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think when I was, like, really contemplating a life in opera, and I was contemplating, like, how much fucking time and energy I have to give this art form, I was like, truck driver, they can make. They make, like, six figures a year.

I feel like every young black man has contemplated being a truck driver. Right? You thought about it? Absolutely not. They said no. Rob, you ever thought about being a truck driver? Thought about being a truck driver? I have not. Oh, damn.

So I think so. I think it's good to say 50% of black men have thought about being truck drivers.

I just feel like we're all. We all hear how good money it is.

He has good money. And it's like a lot of solitude, which I don't mind. Amanda said something the other day. She was like. And I. I. This really made me think that maybe star signs. There's something there. She was like, her ex was a Pisces, and he was a loner but wanted to be like miss. And I identify that so much in relationships.

Jacob. What?

Like, do you identify as being a loner but wanting to be missed?

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't particularly mind about being missed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You just want to be alone.

Jacob is a bit of a, like,

my ideal thing for me and Andy is for us to be in the home in separate parts. Me doing my thing, you over there doing your thing, but we're in the house together, yelling at me like, I'm Andy. To me, that's quality Time. I love that. I don't need to be. We don't need to be like this. That I love it.

[Monet X Change]

You are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm in my own world. You're in your own world. I come and get something from the fridge. I see you. You come. You come and get something outside. I see you.

[Commercial Voice]

Hey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To me, love.

You should date Jacob. You and Jacob will get along. Jacob will be in his room, his little 3D printer. So

as a cancer. How do you feel about that?

I like being up under people, but I also like. I don't mind people being by themselves. Like, I love being up under somebody. Yeah, I love you want to answer your date. I love being up to somebody. But also if you're willing to just like every once in a while just come back and remind me. Just pop in from what you're doing just to say something really nice to me and give me a compliment or. A compliment.

[Commercial Voice]

Yes. Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because it makes me feel good. Come back and tell me that you love me or that I'm pretty or that I'm handsome or that you think I'm good at something. Just randomly tell me I'm really good at something and then go about your business. I just.

Oh, you do whatever I come and say. So you're a thing. I come and say, you know what? You make the best cookies.

Yeah. Oh, my God.

And then leave.

That just made me so happy.

And then leave.

Yeah. Like sometimes Jake just goes, you're so handsome. This is gonna be. I actually have a video. I have a video of my apologies looking through videos the other day. And it's a video of me and Jacob in bed. He goes, I love you so much. You're so handsome. And then I would just go back and do my business. So in our home, Jacob be in his. Jacob be in. We're in a three bedroom. So Jacob usually be in the two smaller rooms. Jacob's room is the second largest room. And then we have a guest room where Jacob has turned into his. His art studio. Non consensual. I'm kidding.

I'm kidding. That was pointed. Jacob. I heard the points.

Jacob.

I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

That was a bit. But Jacob. His art studio. Our art studio. Or he does a lot of stoning and stuff. And then I usually be in the living room, but at nighttime or in my bedroom. But I'm never home during the day.

So, you know, Raven and Miranda have separate bedrooms.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's all Andy.

I don't know.

I genuinely. If I would really like that actually Long term, I think, like, once in a blue will be fine. But long term, I think I like. I do like sleeping together. I do like falling asleep together in the same bed. I enjoy that.

You're gonna be hot.

Yeah, but, like, we. We would be, like, literally for, like, two minutes. Good night, babe. Love you. Then turn around and do my own thing.

So what if you just cut off for two minutes and then go to your own room?

Then I got to get up and go downstairs. I'm not leaving.

Also, tell me, go to his room.

You know, I like us being in the same bed, though.

Just not interacting.

We interact. We watch a show together. We're cuddling, watching a show together, then the show is finished, put the TV off, talk about something forever for, like, five minutes, a little bit. Start to doze off. All right, good night, then. Suffer.

What I do like about sleeping in my own bed is like, I don't. I don't want you. I don't want you to know what I'm looking at on my phone.

[Shannon Maldonado]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't want to be judged for it.

Is this something?

If I want to watch fight videos before I go to bed, I don't want you being like, why is this nigga watching fight videos? Like, I want to watch. I want to watch some fight videos. Or if. Or if I want to listen to people argue. Like, if I want to listen to, like, debates before bed, I don't want you being like, why is this motherfucker listening to debate? Like, he's literally listening to people argue before bed. And if it was just, like, porn, I wouldn't care. But, like, I don't want you being like, I cannot believe this guy's literally watching knockout videos. Slick with the straight porn.

I don't give a fuck. I don't care for watching people fight. You think that's.

I feel like people are judging me when I watch my fight videos.

Jacob, do you judge Bob when he watches fight videos?

[Monet X Change]

I'm not judging, but I also don't want to. I don't want my end of the day about to go to sleep to be accompanied by the sound of people fighting or people arguing about politics.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like Jacob knowing that I'm looking at. Because I feel like he's judging me for watching fight videos.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not judging you, but it makes it hard for me to go to sleep.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why don't you just wear a little headphones?

[Monet X Change]

He doesn't like wearing headphones.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like wearing headphones.

Because when you're in bed, they'll, like, fall out of ears or something like that. Or if I'm wearing the big headphones. Sometimes I wear those, but then they're too much. I want to be comfortable, so I just want to be by myself watching my videos. Because I do watch toxic stuff I do. Like, I'm not just watching cat videos.

Okay.

And I get embarrassed by that.

So what I do is I will. I would. I will take the volume. I'll put it on the look. Because Andy is such a hard sleeper.

That's not.

Let me say Andy, but I do it all the time. Andy is such a hard sleeper. I take the volume, put it, like, literally to the lowest thing where I can still hear it and have it like this. And Andy can't hear it. He doesn't know what's going on. He is.

Oh, baby. With Tao, I can have a marching band. It doesn't have to be in the lowest setting because normally Tao and I are falling asleep to tv. And then this thing. Now you're conditioned to noise. You're asleep with the tv. I can now watch my tiktoks at full. Full volume. That is great.

Yeah. That's where Andy and I are at.

I also do like falling asleep while people watch tv.

I like that, too.

If you're watching a show that I don't really care about, there's something very confident about falling asleep while you watch a show that you like.

I agree. Now, here's my thing. Now I want now, which I can acknowledge that's not fair to what I'm asking for, what I want sometimes that turned out or turned around, like, I want. I want to watch something that I really want to watch that you don't care about. But the thing is, Andy can't fall asleep with the tv.

Oh, so.

I know. So I just. I acknowledge that.

I thought he was a hard sleeper.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought he was a hard sleeper,

but something about the TV playing while he's trying to fall asleep, like, actively. He can't do it.

Oh, you should date. Tao will fall asleep. Baby, I'm telling you, you turn it the. When I tell you. You'd be like, all right, we're going to watch a show. What show do we agree on? We agree on this show. We both agree we're watching it, right? Deal. Because we've spent 45 minutes disagreeing on a show, and you're gonna watch it. Yeah, Right. Click out me.

But here's the thing, though. We're watching it, and Andy does This just fucking annoys me. He's like, baby, you sleep. I'm like, no. And he turn around and see me sleeping. He'll be like, wake up.

Don't wake me up. That's crazy.

I just. Let me sleep. No, that's, like, several times throughout the episode. Like, four times.

That's insane.

I know. Leave.

Just leave me alone sleeping.

Leave me alone.

I will say, though, I do not mind being woken up. I tell Jacob this all the time. I genuinely don't mind being woken up. Like, if I'm asleep, don't. Don't wake me up and watch the show because I won't survive. I'm not gonna make it through it. But, like, if you have to get up and go to the bathroom, you don't have to creep. Just get up.

Oh, yeah, just get up.

If the bed rattles, I wake up. I'm telling you, I will go back to sleep. You do not have to worry about me. I'm gonna make it back to sleep. When you wake up in the morning, do not tiptoe. Do not tiptoe. Just wake up and do your thing also.

And we. Well.

And I'm not going to talk about it. Yeah. Thank you. And with that note, thank you for coming. You're going to refute it on my show. I don't even want to hear what it is. I'm refuting it ahead of time. Goodbye, everyone.