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And I am on tour right now up until November 15th all across these United States of America and Canada, just to name a few spots. I will be in Philadelphia. I'm going to be in Columbus, Georgia. Columbus, Ohio. Royal Oak, Michigan. Montreal. Portland, Maine. My first time ever in Maine, by the way, I've never been to Maine in my life. I'm finally going to go to all 50 states. I'm ending my tour in Las Vegas and tons of other places. So go to us seethedradqueen.com to get your tickets. My name is Bob the Drag Queen
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and I'm Monet x Change. And this is sibling rivalry. On this week's episode, I get into gentle parenting.
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We talk about Halloween and we find
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out what made Bob say this.
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No, Jacob, I'm not dumb enough to believe that. And we found out what made Monet say this.
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That's how you do it. So don't say that I did something. That's how you do it, bitch. Do you miss me? At all of you on tour? Like, do you? Do you miss me even a little bit?
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Sometimes. But mostly I'm thinking about work and trying to do a good job in my show. You know, I was thinking about something. You and I should do a show in LA with Cracker, like an old
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school
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New York City show.
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But there weren't ever any New York City shows with, I mean, the only Queen that had. I mean, that's not true. But like multiple hosts who were talking to Mike would was look, Queen, which was your show that Croc and I were both worked at.
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And I will host. No kidding. I mean, then you can house. I don't care. I don't need to host.
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No, no, no, I'm not. That wasn't. That Was not to say that. It was like, how come?
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That was me getting out of my work.
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Yeah, as you be doing. And you know what? This is the one time that you're not going to wheezy away out of more work.
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I'm happy to have you work. You can host the whole show.
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I'm sorry.
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You and Cracker can come out and do numbers. I come out, do numbers. You and Cracker can host the show.
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Honestly, that sounds great. Wait, okay. So many things. I would love that. Do you think Cracker be into it? I feel like I'm not smoking some Miss Cracker in eons.
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When I first spoke to Cracker, we were at the Madonna show together. We hung out that night in Seattle.
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I spoke to Cracker. I don't even know. You know, I'm gonna text her right now in this moment, because you know what it is? I'll do this thing. I'm like, yeah, I'll go talk to that person, and then I will for you, literally, as. Because we talk about so much in this podcast, I'd be forgetting.
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Oh, you think we know what a. Oh, my God. Oh,
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Why is this cracking Android? Why is it green?
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Why does it matter?
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Because. Oh, yeah, I didn't send it. Yeah, but all of our texts are blue, and now it's just green all of a sudden.
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Will the text go through if you sent it? I just sent it.
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It just went through.
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Oh, that's crazy.
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Okay, I have a thing, y'. All. I got multiple piercings.
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Oh, you probably got blocks.
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Maybe.
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Why?
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What did I do?
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Maybe you made fun of her phone.
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No, I didn't. Anyway, I literally just realized in this moment. So, Bob, I got these secondary and tertiary air piercings, and I feel like they're too low.
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I don't know what that is.
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Air piercings in tertiary, secondary, and tertiary. Third. Secondary. And I heard you tertiary, not tertiary and tertiary.
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Okay. I've never heard this word. What an interesting word to use
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anyway. And I feel like they're too low, but I went to a second place to get a second opinion. They're like, no. They're like, follow your thing closely. Can you tell me what you think? Don't you feel like they're too low? Like this. This. This one I feel like is too low. They're like, no, you want it to fall in line with this. I was like, no, it needs to be, like, up, like, just a hair. Don't you think? I feel like it should be like this.
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I mean, I'm not a piercer, and you should probably listen to them. But that looks like it makes sense to me. I mean, I have three ear. Three holes in my ears.
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Do you?
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But yeah, I have five all together.
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Oh, wow. You have five holes, huh?
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Just. That's just the ears on both sides
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or just one side?
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Three on one side, two on the other.
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Oh, so you have three and two, dude. But do you do. Are they close? I've never seen you wear them. Are they closed? Are they open?
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You see me wear four rings at a time. You have certainly seen. I have.
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I've seen you wear four rings at a time.
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Yep.
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I don't remember this. I'm not saying I have. I. But I definitely don't recall.
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I've done it. Yeah, I've won four range at a time for sure.
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Interesting. So I guess they stay open. But I would say this one, it will not heal. I got this done in March. She is still sore and still you
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get back from the meat. The harder is like up here. These are, these are these, these, these crust for they, they, they, they. They're up. The higher you get up, the harder they are to heal you, girl.
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Today I was. I would. Had to use some. Some saline solution, get some crusty dusty. I'm like, how.
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I mean, I got my ears pierced in middle school, high school, and I got them done at Claire's was by a teenage girl with a gun Work.
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And did you choose your position? Because I think aesthetically I just feel like I should just take it out and go a little higher. But that's just me, man.
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I really remember when I say when I got my ears pierced 25 years ago.
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Oh, wait. And you're 37 to 28. 38. So you got your. When you were 23. When I was.
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That's not how math work. I said 25 years ago.
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25 years. Oh, so you were third. 15. So it's 13.
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I mean I was in middle school, seventh and eighth grade when I got my ears pierced together. Work mother was afraid to get her ears pierced. She was nervous. She wanted this pierced up here and she was nervous. She was scared of your ears first. I was like, I'll do my ears with you.
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Oh, yeah. I. I couldn't get any piercings or anything until I was 18. They would let me get. Wait, that's not true. I think I got these maybe like they let me in like sophomore year of high school. I think my first ones.
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I think I got one ear pierced. I really think everyone should have their ears first. You should, you should have the option to put in to. To. To put earrings in or use clip ons. And if you don't get anything, you don't wear them. No one can tell unless they're all up in your business.
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Yeah.
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And I then I went back and got my experience to get a second round in high school because tech from Real World Hawaii had these double holes out there that were just so cool.
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He was a hot man.
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Why ended up with the third one? I don't know how or why that happened.
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You also have a Mary.
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I never worn five of the rings at once, though.
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How old were you when you got the Maryland?
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Maybe like 19, 20. Work.
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And pep has her tongue ring.
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I had my tongue pierced too.
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Yo. Your tongue pierced too?
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Yes, I did.
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You little slapped.
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I got this side, this side twice. My tongue, this, my nose.
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Oh God, you that girl.
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I had that too.
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Yeah, yeah, you better work.
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I certainly did.
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You little, you, you, you little alt girl.
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It wasn't really all back then. It was kind of. It wasn't. It wasn't like a rocker vibe, like dress in black kind of thing. It was kind of. It was very hip when I did it.
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I mean, I'm like what, four years different than you? The people with like this and this. And those were the four. Maybe that is enough to make a difference. But for me, those were the all girlies.
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Well, we're also from different places. In Atlanta, to have a Monroe was very like hip hop girly, like, especially in the gay scene, it was very like a lot of little feminine gay boys had these, had this. A lot of black Southern men have that. Black Southern gay men have that piercing who are my age, interesting or older even actually interesting. Yeah.
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Huh. I got into a little. It wasn't even. It was not major at all, but some. A little bit of Twitter drama the past couple days because I tweeted I want to have a kid to see if I have the. The propensity to be a gentle parent.
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I saw that tweet. It was. I thought it was weird.
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Why is it weird? I wouldn't. I didn't literally mean it. I was just like tweeting a thing. Like. And because if anyone listens to a thing or off what's not even on this podcast in many places, I've said like, I do not want to have kids. Cause I go too much back and forth of whether what I want, whether I. What I shouldn't. And as a kid who was adopted and have a parent who was not responsible, I would never bring a Kid. When I'm not 100% sure that I should have a kid, people are like, monet, how dare you say that? Children are precious? And I was like, yeah, no one is saying that. I'm just saying, like, I wonder if I could be a gentle parent, because I see these gentle parents, the things
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people I didn't literally mean. Like, no one knows if you mean something literally or not. Like, all we know is that you wrote it down. And. And. And for that, I remember reading. And being like, I remember reading it because you put it on your Instagram story.
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I did. Yeah, I did.
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And I remember thinking to myself, that's not a good reason to have a kid. And my first thought was, that's a terrible reason to have a kid. And I just kind of kept scrolling.
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And then, what do you. What did you think when. And did you have a second thought, like, oh, Monet, Monet, this. This is really. This is really what Monet wants to do to have a kid.
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My only thought was, that is a terrible reason to have a child.
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Why did you think more?
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I didn't really ponder on it for too long. Deeper, deeper, deeper. But I kept thinking myself, man, that's a really. That's a really bad reason to have a kid. And I just kind of kept moving, kept doing my thing.
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Do you think you could be a gentle parent?
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Probably not.
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I think, like, I could.
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I think I was. I wasn't gentle parented.
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I was not just the parented either. At all. I told y', all, I used to be in a supermarket, putting in the couch, put this in the car. My mom used to give me a little slap on my face and, like, stop being like, I definitely was not gentle parented. Also, I went to a school that had corporal punishment.
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Gentle parenting is not just when you don't hate your kids, to be quite honest.
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I know. It's not that there's a whole system for some reason. I'm on gentle parent TikTok. I like two videos now. All I see is Gentle Parent. That's what brought the thought in.
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I just was tweeting about it and putting in your Instagram stories. So I think.
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But this is before that. This is before all of that. I was on gentle parent TikTok, and I was getting. I think I saw one video of this woman, I don't know her name, whatever, and it was, like, so interesting the way that she was gently parenting her kid. And I was like, I wonder if I could be that girl if I had a kid. I wonder in my Mind, I am, but I don't think I am.
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Do you want to clarify now what you meant when you said that tweet?
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I was. I meant. I meant it like, as, like just a passing thought. Like sometimes when I tweet.
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What you meant was, I wonder if I could be a gentle parent.
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Yeah. And then.
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But like I said, so I can see if I will be a gentle parent. Say it again. Because what.
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What you.
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What you. What you meant was, I wonder if I could be a gentle parent. But you did. But what you wrote was, I would like to have a kid so I can see if I can be a gentle parent.
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No, that's not what I said.
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I said, I don't remember verbatim. Or did you chicken out and delete the tweet?
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I didn't see it. I left it on there.
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So you double it. So you're doubling down.
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I am actually tripling down because I also put on Instagram, so I tripled for sure.
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Wow, that's crazy.
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And Facebook. So I quadrupled down.
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You put on Facebook? It goes on.
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It goes on Facebook.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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What s moment.
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I want to have kids to see if I have the propensity to be a gentle parent. That's what I said.
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Almost forbade him. What I said.
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What did you say?
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Like, I said, I would like. And you said, I want.
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I said I wanna. That's what I said. I just said I would like.
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But to. The short answer to your question is I do think that is a bad reason to have kids. And I can. I can actually see why people would be like, what, you know?
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Well, I. I tweet other things. They don't take that shit serious. People be chirping what the fuck they want to take seriously, like, you. And you know, that is. And that is well and willing their right to do so. Actually, I think we all choose what
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we take seriously, though, don't we, on Twitter? But how do people. How are people supposed to know that what you meant? Like, some people say, that's not what I meant. And I'm like, that's what I told folks. I only know what you said. I don't know what you meant. I only know what you said. And why would you say something if you didn't mean it? Like, if you meant the other thing, just say the other thing.
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Do you know what I know? What you said is that you lied. Talking about boiling noodles. The thing that you said that I did with boiling noodles.
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First of all, you only know that because someone commented on the 100%. 100%.
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The thing that you accused me of doing. Noodles is the shit that you do, nigga.
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And then you try to act like
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it was me and you. And again, I. I 100% don't remember that thing. Okay, you recall exactly.
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Say that with your whole chest.
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You recall the whole situation. Act like you knew without a shadow of a doubt how you make. And it was the same that you accused me of. You did.
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And by the way, you remembered it the same way I did. You weren't like. You remembered it the same way I did. You were like, yep. So we both remembered it incorrectly.
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I mean. Yes. I literally said yes. I did not remember. But I'm trying to say the thing that you try to accuse somebody else of knowing is, nigga, the shit you be doing. Donald Trump. Donald Trump, the drag queen.
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I remember it incorrectly. I did not accuse you.
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You did. You said when monetization. You accused me of cooking noodles.
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That's not what an accusation is not. That's not what an accusation.
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You did accuse me.
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That's not an accusation moment.
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You did accuse me.
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Because words have meanings. Let's quickly look up the definition of the word accusation. Okay. Accusation is a charge or claim that someone has done something illegal or wrong.
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This is what the. You said.
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I did.
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You said that I cook noodles in cold water and I boil it. But you need to remember that that's how you do it. So don't say that I did something. That's how you do it.
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Okay, first of all, yes, I misremembered. It was. It was not an accusation. I misremember what? You know that because you cannot escape the. Your noodles were disgusting. That she held the bowl upside down. The noodles.
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Was that a crime? Was there a crime committed there? Wrong.
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You forgot the wrong part.
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What Wrong? No, that's not wrong. Just because. Just because my noodles was off and undesired was a shave does not mean it was wrong. That means that she likes to eat her noodles and inedible. No, they were not inedible because I ate them. Just because. Just because. That's not. Go ahead. Just because that's not how she wants to eat her noodles. That mean it was wrong, baby.
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After it was done, we ate our own noodles. And then I watched. Now, this is. Y' all can. This is just. Now this is an accusation. Monet sat there and begrudgingly ate her cold, her mushy noodles that she didn't even. She was sitting there, like, wincing.
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You are lying. I was not wincing because that's how I eat my noodles all the time. This hot bottle is full of shit. It's how I eat my noodles all the time. So that's how I was not wincing, eating my noodles, please. So now this is completely made up. Now we're in the land of make believe.
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Go back and watch the video. Cause Monaci, there are nasty ass noodles.
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Now we're in the land of literal. Bob is literally making science fiction. You are making fiction. You are making up stories.
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Video. It's still there. Is anything you can do.
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You are making up stories. Making up stories.
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She knew they were nasty.
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Making up stories.
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They were nasty.
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Making up stories.
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It was like, they're good.
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Anyway, I'm so glad for Bob the Drag Queen videos gathering you and catching Bob on his many lies on this podcast again.
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Have your minion do your bidding, because that's who she is, your minion.
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Yeah. And she's gathering you. She's gathering you.
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So you. You heard about the. That's all you are to Monet now. You're just her minion doing.
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Gathering you.
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Monet has not appreciated you until you started doing her bidding. So since you're Monet's minion, change your fucking name to Monet Xchange video and watch your views go down her. So since you are now her minion, do Monet's bidding, change her name to Monet Xchange videos and let's see how
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your views do her fact. Checkmate. And on that, let's take a break.
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Before we go to break. Did you lose the competition?
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I sure did. But listen, making up stories, though, you make it up, the stories.
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We're taking a break and I know.
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It's. It's so good, so good. Just as sweet as they can. Just to get you checked.
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We're taking a break. I am back with the loser of the Cook off Monet exchange. Shaq, what have you been up to lately?
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Huh?
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What have you been up to lately?
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Where was I? Oh, I was in Minneapolis. I did some stuff with the Minnesota Opera for their Glam Jam this year was very great.
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Their what?
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Their Glam Jam is their annual fundraiser they do at the beginning of the season, and I hosted it and sang and sang some songs in the show, and it was a very beautiful. Huh.
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What songs did you sing?
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I sang Vitavizo Ologia Meni from La Sonambula, and I sang in the group number at the end of the show from an opera. So it's a. It's. It's a more contemporary I forget the name of the opera, but it was the finale of the show. It was a really good time. And I just love, you know, the Minnesota. The Minnesota Opera has such a special place in my heart because they gave me my first role in drag. And since then, I've done so many operatic things with different symphonies and, you know, and. Because, I mean, I think other things would have come, but I think definitely having. Doing this, doing the role with Minnesota Opera with the Duchess of Crackenthorpe was a very big moment for me. And it was a big moment for them that they said, and it was. It was so fun.
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Moneta is bigger for them than it was for me.
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Yeah, that's what I said.
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I thought. Image of you from that opera on my fridge.
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You what?
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I have a picture of you in that opera on my fridge.
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Do you really?
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Have you not been to my house?
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I don't remember. How often do I go to your fridge? I'm also sorry I'm not looking at everything on your fridge, but I have not noticed this picture.
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I know stuff in your house. Okay, ask me about something in your house right now.
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What is on this corner of my drag room?
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At the front side, you keep all your dresses color coordinated. Color coordination. No, like, that side over there is the dresses over there?
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What's here by the door? The front door? Something very obvious. What is it?
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The wall?
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You're so full of shit.
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Am I correct or am I. There's not a wall by the door.
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Well, you know that's not what I'm talking about.
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Oh. Anyway, I was right.
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But, yeah, and I also did a gig in. Oh, my God. So on Friday, I did a gig for the LGBTQ Alliance. Real Estate Alliance. Because I realized every Realtor I've had, which has been 3, 2, 1, 2 in New York to get up to get apartments, and one to get a home here in la. Because my first apartment here in la, I found out myself, which is a really great deal. But Kennedy is when I was trying to surprise down here, and Kennedy helped me. Like, anyway, they've all been gay. And so in my experience, 100% of the realtors I've worked with have been gay. And then so they had this LGBT Real Estate alliance thing with all the gay realtors. I'm like, aren't all realtors gay? I feel like, again, I think this kind of goes back to a conversation about. I just know a lot of gay people. I don't know a whole lot of straight people. So in my experience, like, all realtors are Gay. It feels like a very gay profession.
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No one realtor I work with has been straight.
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Really?
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Yep. Kennedy helped you get your place. Did you give Kenny a broker speech?
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She did not. Kenny did not help me find a place. I find my. I found my place to help you do. Kennedy went to go look to get into the deposit and stuff for me to make sure I, like, got it because I wasn't here in LA and they needed like a.
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You pay her money? Huh? Did you pay her money?
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I don't know what I did for Kennedy, but I know I took care of her more than you do.
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You don't know if it was money.
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She was very grateful. This was four years ago. Four years ago. She was very grateful. She seemed. She was very grateful for it. Whatever is going on with her life and her finances and her work, she was very grateful for what I compensated her with.
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So you don't remember if it was money or not?
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I don't remember. I'm pretty sure it was money, but I don't remember exactly.
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Give her wigs. You gave her. You clipped her.
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It was definitely wasn't a wig. It was probably most likely money. We call her and find out we can.
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Kennedy gave me away one time. Actually, me and Kennedy both made these wigs together. We can't. Kenny's actually camping. We made these wigs together before she worked with me. Before she was working for me and we were both. She was in the wardrobe department over at the Berkeley Repertory Theater, and I was fronting a wig, and then she was like, oh, I'll make a wig too. And she made this fully. A full human, fully hand tied, Cruella de Vil wig.
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I remember this.
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The whole. She. She tied this entire wig in the time it took me to do the front of a wig. It was crazy.
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Didn't you go to school for that or something?
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Yeah, yeah. That's something she learned in school. Yeah. Mostly for costume design. But she did learn a little bit about hair while she was in there too. Obviously enough to make an entire fucking wig. Yeah. Also.
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Oh, I want to shout out, Drag Candy. Drag Candy. I was in Houston doing my thank you. Thank you for all who came out to my bottle signing in Texas over like two weeks ago. And Drag Candy made me these amazing. Because of my story of my holographic charizard that I gave away, they made me these amazing coasters of the Jacob. What do you call these? The three that you start with?
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Oh, the starter Pokemon.
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Yeah, your starter Pokemon.
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What do you call the Pokemon you start With.
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I feel like that was like a cuntier name anyway of the three of them in these like holographic little ashtray. And they gave me a mewtwo one as well with all the holographic cards. So it's very sweet. So thank you so much. Drag candy, you're such a little sweetie. And I really. It was such a nice little gift to get at the. At the signing. It was very, very.
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What is drag candy's like main thing they do?
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What is it? I think they do. They do.
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They make things out of resin, like jewelry normally.
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I don't know if they're.
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That's actually candy. They do. They do candy manufacturing and like sweets now, Jacob, I'm not dumb enough to
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believe that they don't. They do. They put things in resin with Pokemon, though. A lot of Pokemon. They make resin the written thing. So y', all, if you want to get some cool. And they're actually really cool. And I. I have smoked a joint in the mutant one and it works. So just so you guys know, they are nice to smoke in. What have you been up to?
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It was a coaster.
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No, I mean, I guess this one can be a coaster. I think it could be a coaster or an asteroid.
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Oh, okay. You also want to ask her as wild why people.
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People give me drugs, but usually ashes.
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It's such a bold assumption because you have famous on the podcast goes, I don't smoke weed. I don't smoke.
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I say that I don't smoke a lot. I don't say I don't smoke. I don't say I don't because everyone knows I smoke weed. I said I. I do not smoke often anymore.
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Maybe bother directly in your videos. Maybe you can do a deep dive on that. Well, someone said if Monet's ever said she doesn't smoke.
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You're so salty, baby. Oh, what have you been up to?
B
I have been doing my tour. Obviously I'm in Canada right now. I do not know the name of the town I'm in. They keep saying I cannot remember the name of it. I'm just doing a stop. There's no show here. We're just stopped off for a night after driving all day long. I drive all night and then tomorrow I'm headed to Calgary.
A
Calgary is a Cowboys city. There a lot of cowboys in Calgary.
B
I'm headed to. Yeah, Calgary. I'm headed to Calgary right now.
A
They have that big show that's called the Stampede or something like that. And it's like a big cowboy thing. I've done the gig twice. And it's like, wow, Anytime I'm out of the state. Well, the United States of America, I always just gagged. Like how like pervasive cowboy culture is, like, in Australia. Cowboy culture is huge in Australia. In Calgary. Cowboy culture is huge in Calgary. Like one of those.
B
One of those country singers is Australia. One of the big ones.
A
Keith Urban.
B
Yeah, he's Australian.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
Born in New Zealand.
A
Yeah.
B
And Australia.
A
Orville Peck was saying kabuka culture is huge in South Africa. I was like, really? That's so interesting. But yeah, you know, so. Oh, this is a fun fact for Drag race all stars 7. For my light up Runway, I almost did Marco. Marco. Instead of making me the galaxy gown, we almost went, you know that famous. If you watch the opening scene of Sister Act 2, that neon cow lady. Yeah, you were, oh, we're gonna do that instead of the galaxy thing. But I forgot why. Didn't end up working out. But that was the direction we're gonna go. I was gonna be like a neon cowgirl.
B
Someone repost. I just randomly saw Jinx's light up outfit. That was so good. That was an insane burn at the stick. That was an insane piece. I wonder where that dress is.
A
Girl, you know, where's she gonna wear that again, girl? That's so much drag. So much drag. It's like you wear even your stuff on wear here without with the exception, like, maybe like two more of your outfits. I don't feel like I've ever seen you wear a lot of them since the show. Like, I've seen you wear the rocker, the one that, the one, the biker one. I've seen you wear. I've seen you wear the black dress with the mirrored thing, but like that gold one that you were in Colorado when you. When you. When are you wearing that again?
B
Well, I said them. It's at the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. So I'm not wearing anytime soon.
A
I'm saying. But where would you wear that again to?
B
Maybe somewhere. I could maybe think of something. Maybe if I did, I don't know. I'm sure I could think of something to do. But I also was thinking the other day, like, I don't think I really. I don't think I really have an interest in doing drag shows like that anymore. Not TV shows, like live drag shows where I'm like, look at this crazy costume I'm wearing. And I see a lot of drag shows like that and they're honestly really cool drag shows.
A
What do you mean? Explain I don't know. I don't know what you mean. Like what?
B
Like something like where like plastic tiara comes out with these gigantic wings on Work the World. Or when I did those huge wings on Work the World. Or if you've ever seen Jimbos, I just met Jimbo recently. That was actually really cool. Jimbo's circus show. Like these. Some of these outfits are so I'm like, I don't think that for me specifically, I love seeing that kind of drag. I don't think I'm interested in doing any more shows where I'm like, look at this, look at this costume. Look how crazy this costume is.
A
How to say an opera? Opera calls a lot of moments of that, like, to just like, that's what a lot of like, especially, like concerts and like oratorial work. Like, so, like, you're the two things people come to see is what fabulous dress the women are going to wear and hear the beautiful voices. So opera does lend itself to that, to like having a very ornate, like, over the top look and sounding really good.
B
Maybe I did a play, if I was in a play and the costume was part of the play. But I don't think I'm interested in. I don't. I don't think that I have another, like, work the World kind of vibe
A
in me anymore, to be honest.
B
Like a Vegas. Like the Vegas, kind of like one of those, like, look at, you know.
A
You know what I mean?
B
Look at this crazy costume.
A
Well, you literally say you want to do a show with me, you and Cracker.
B
So wear that big Rita. That big Rita costume at Silver Rivalry.
A
Oh, yeah. So did you say you wanted to do a show? You and I and like, what is it called? Doing the most. You like, you want to. You and I should do a show where we do the most or something like that?
B
Yeah.
A
I think you poo pooed it. I did not. You were on tour for like a year, I think.
B
When I pitched it, were you like, yeah, let's do it?
A
Probably not. I mean, that's kind of like. So, I mean, here's a question for you. For Halloween, aren't you, like, going over. Halloween is the time to really go above and beyond and do like a crazy. I mean, not necessarily crazy, but you can do like a. That's the time to. Well, except for drag queens. I feel like Halloween does have a different thing. Like, I'm not trying to do glam on Holland. I do lean more into the horror and like, the more like, artsy fartsy stuff.
B
What do you mean? Artsy Farsi?
A
Like, like two years ago, I went as, like, an alien thing, so. Or when I did what the Bloodbath. Instead of doing, like, something super glam, I do, like, a unicorn. And I, like, painted my face a thing. I cover my body in black sequin. Like. Like, I feel like that's more. It's a little more dramatic than just, like, glam. Here. Here I am. I'm. I'm a. I'm a sexy nurse or a sexy devil.
B
I don't really dress up for Halloween very often, to be honest. I mean, if I'm working, I will. And usually it's an outfit that I already had. Like, I did a Freddy Krueger number, and I do not know why I have a Freddy Krueger gown, but I already have a Freddy Krueger gown. And I just had the Freddy Krueger glove and the gown, and I had the hat made. I think Dallas culture made that for me. And I have a Deadpool outfit. A lot of these were stuff that I did for, like, Look Queen or
A
for Look Bath or.
B
Or Blood. Well, I didn't know it was a bloodbath. Although for Bloodbath, I. One year I did. I was big red and Jacob was a little bad wolf. And then the other year, I was just like. I was. I was just blood covered in blood. And Lashawn beyond maybe this, like, blood gown. And I only done Bloodbath twice.
A
So I was telling Bob, he's a bring Bloodbath back. I said, bloodbath needs to come back. And at the. At 3:00am Whatever time you decide you need to have, like, fucking pipes and the thing you need to rain blood at that time. That would be such an iconic party. And you could do it as some, like, warehouse way to do poor Detroit downtown in la.
B
Those warehouses where I never been there.
A
Oh, you've never been. Would you ever go to a circuit party with.
B
I don't even know what that. I don't even know what that is.
A
It's a circuit party. It's a circuit party with, like. With, like, some music and dancing and there's a dark room. Obviously,
B
it doesn't sound very fun. I probably wouldn't go, to be honest
A
with the music, though. I think you would like. What's the one I think you like? Pegasus. Pegasus is like disco and stuff like that. And you like to dance, y'.
B
All.
A
Bobby dancing. His head be sweating, his clothes be wet. He be taking off his clothes. Cause he's sweating wet from sweat. That's a fun one.
B
I went and joined. Got Mick and Violet. I had like a week where I was like. Kept hanging out with Gottmikin Violet. And we went to some party that was like downtown, outside in, like, an alley and like a stage. I don't think it would be called a. It was like. You went to Hot Dog? No, before Hot Dog. It was like Summer Tramp. Summer Tramp.
A
Oh, with Andres. Andres.
B
I guess I was just there with Violin Got Mick. And it wasn't really a. I wouldn't call that a circuit party.
A
Got it.
B
Maybe it was, though. I don't really know what constitutes this when it's on the border of maybe a circuit party, maybe a regular party. But then when it is a circuit, I know I'm at a circuit party when I'm like, this is a circuit party, you know. Yeah.
A
Let's take a break. I'll tell you about my circuit party experience. So I've been to a handful of circuit parties I went to. At the top of this year, 2024, Andy, Naomi, Michael and I, we went to a circuit party. It was a Wizard of Oz theme. We did that. And before that in Sept. In, like, there was in Palm Springs. Palm Springs. Palm Springs Pride, 2023. We, Mick, Violet, Disco Daddy, Naomi and I, like, we all went to. Andy and I, we went to like a soccer party around there, too. I think I've been to one before. I don't love. I just don't like the pots and pans music. You know what I mean? Like, I don't love. So if there's like a. And that's at Palm Springs Pride. There was another bar that I went to with Violet and them. And they would. This bitch was playing like 70s 80s house disco music. That shit was. Was like fucking adrenaline in my veins. That was a good party. If I was a circuit party, that's all that kind of music, I would live my best life. But regular circuit parties just have that fucking pots and pans. And I went to. Ooh, I went to. What is Mitch DJ in New York? The Eagle.
B
Yeah, the Eagle.
A
I went to Mitch's night at the Eagle, me and Rob Anderson. And that was so fucking good. Mitch was turning it.
B
Mitch is a great dj. Mitch is a fantastic dj. I used to go to see Mitch at that Tall. Ooh, it's not there anymore. It was on like, 7th or something. Anyway, I would always go see Mitch there when I came to New York City. And it was just so much fun. I love dancing with Mitch. DJs and sometime he lets me DJ with him, which is really fun.
A
Yeah, it was cute. What do you think the big Halloween costumes are gonna be this year?
B
Beetlejuice.
A
Oh, yeah, Beetlejuice. Oh, fucking. The bitch from Dance with the Stars who got eliminated. She was like, what you learn? Nothing. Ana Del probably again, maybe.
B
I mean, why you dress like an deli, like in a flat wig and an ankle bracelet.
A
Yeah, I think that's what they're going to wear. Dancing costume and have. Have the flat wig and have an
B
ankle bracelet on ankle monitor or ankle whatever.
A
Whatever it's called.
B
Ankle house arrest. Bibbidy bop.
A
Yeah, I think that's a good one. I think, I think Kamala is going to be one. No, Kamala's going to be one.
B
I mean, I just can't imagine because she. Her look isn't like super specific. I mean, it's a suit and a bob wig. Bob.
A
It's short. It's like shoulder length hair.
B
It's not a bob. She doesn't have a bob, though.
A
It's not a bob. What would you call that? Just shoulder. Is this.
B
I guess just shoulder length hair? She has a blowout. Well, her.
A
Well, you know, I think is going to be one. I think Donald Trump is one every year because he's so fucking infamous.
B
He also has a very. The thing with Donald Trump has a very specific look. Like even people who are just wearing his suits are always, always oversized, massive. His suits are too big for him. They fit him funny. He's orange. His hair is so unique.
A
They do, they did they put the white around the eyes. Did you see what they did of him in Palm Springs?
B
No, what they did.
A
Bitch. Somebody in Palm Springs made this. I don't know how tall. Like, I don't know what's. Is a story? A floor?
B
I think the story is roughly eight. Yeah, eight feet tall.
A
Got it.
B
Eight to ten feet tall, I imagine.
A
I just sent it to you on Instagram. It's so there's someone did like a.
B
You send it to Jacob. Send it to the group to that media chat we have.
A
Oh, yeah. Oh, God. This y' all is on the screen right now because I'm sending it to our media thing of this statue that someone did of Donald Trump in Palm somewhere in the desert. Going to. Going to. In Vegas. And it's just like, like huge. Like eight story. Maybe the eight stories. Five stories. I don't know how tall it is. And it's like of his naked Donald Trump and like a really, really, really, really, really tiny Penis and like his fat and stuff like that. It's insane.
B
Yeah, there have been a couple of statues of Donald Trump naked put up around places. Yeah, there was a couple years ago. This one, someone made a. A naked statue of Donald Trump. And it wasn't huge though. It was like a pretty average size statue. Maybe, maybe made the scale.
A
Oh, got it.
B
You know, tall Donald Trump is.
A
He's like six feet, right?
B
Six, four.
A
Is he really?
B
You know how tall Barron Trump is?
A
He's tall. He's like 6, 5, 6, 9. Baron Trump is not 6, 9.
B
Google it.
A
That's wild. Really?
B
Baron Trump is a 6, 9, 18 year old gangly person. That's why I have a theory. That's why Donald Trump doesn't want to stand near Baron Trump because he doesn't like to look short.
A
I mean, but look at this picture of all of them two days ago and he's. Oh yeah, he's six, nine. That's wild.
B
That's eugenics. I don't care what you say, that's eugenics.
A
Wow. He is 6, 9. Whoa. Melania's tall too then.
B
Yeah, Melania's probably 5, 10, 5 11.
A
Yeah, she's tall, huh?
B
She's always in a pump.
A
She what?
B
Always in a pump.
A
Always in a pump. Have you watched Agatha all along with the fabulous.
B
I've not started yet.
A
No.
B
I don't have Disney plus on my computer. Oh, I can give you our login.
A
I'm gonna say you just log into it.
B
I mean, I also gotta Finish X Men 97. I don't remember my login. I mean, Jacob sets them up and then I just like end up like. Actually, I think we're. Are we still on Kennedy's Disney plus? No. I mean, I have my own. Maybe One of our TVs is. Yeah, because Kennedy's like, you need to watch this. And I was like, I don't really watch anything on Disney. She was like, I'll just log you in. So we were just using Kennedy Disney for like years.
A
W. To be fair, Kennedy's on my
B
Max account, so it evens out.
A
Oh, well, it's very good, I will say. I mean, we kind of talked about the MCU a few episodes ago, but in my opinion, WandaVision.
B
Watch what you say.
A
I know WandaVision is the best series that they've done. Like, I'm sorry. Like, I just feel like no series has come close.
B
Did you watch Loki?
A
I watched the first season of it and I thought it was fine. I just did not think it was as good as WandaVision. I didn't watch the second season, so I don't know what the second season he was giving, but WandaVision was just so good. It was so good. And I'm like, maybe just because it was the first one and we were in the pandemic and it came out, everyone was so excited. Maybe that's why. But I just have. It was just such a good show. Every episode. It was just so good.
B
I mean, I only watched season. I only watched WandaVision. I didn't watch the other show, but WandaVision was great. Candy not Kandi. Camera time has this great lyric where she goes it. Beat them niggas that are fond of you Hit you with the rendezvous Said he had a vision of my twins like wands to do. I love that line. That's such a great line.
A
Do you know what I wish for us? Well, for us, for me. I want to be invited to Heidi Klum's fierce Halloween party. I always hear, like, everyone talk about, like, a Heidi Klums and the one that everyone like. Guys, if you're listening to this, you've probably seen it. Like, one year she dressed up as, like, a worm. Like, she does these really intense, elaborate, really dope costumes. Like, all these celebrities go, like, middle. Sometimes Bet Midler performs like. It seems like such a cool event to go to. And, like, I would just. Because Bet Miller doesn't do dates anymore. Right. She doesn't tour or anything anymore. But she still sometimes. She still sometimes performs at. No, no, she doesn't. But she still sometimes will perform at Heidi Colem's party.
B
Is that, like, a fact that Bet Miller doesn't perform anymore?
A
I. I don't think Bet Miller has been on tour in years.
B
Well, but. But she's still performing. I mean, she was on Broadway a couple years ago. You don't remember that?
A
No.
B
We're supposed to go. I bought the wrong tickets.
A
Right. What was it for? Hello Dolly.
B
Hello Dolly. Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
I mean, imagine at her age, she's probably not trying to be in these streets performing all the time. Yeah, but she. I don't know. Maybe she does things here and there. A lot of women her age are still out here doing shows.
A
Well, Barbara Streisand, I don't think she does anything. I was. I've been. I. I'm very upset that I'm in a world I've never seen Barbra Streisand perform live because it truly is one of the greatest voices still alive today. And I'm just. It really pains me that I may never get the chance to see her perform live.
B
Has she announced that she doesn't perform anymore?
A
No, but she hasn't been on tour in years.
B
Oh, maybe she'll have a one off somewhere, you know, Maybe.
A
Well, you know what? We live in la and I feel like. I feel like I said this before, like, shows go up at the Hollywood bowl and I literally. I'm on their mailing list and I watched following them on fucking Instagram and I still be finding out after the fact. I'm like, how am I still missing what's going on at the fucking Hollywood Bowl?
B
Maybe once a month, at the first of the month, you just check to see who's at the bowl.
A
Yeah, that's what I should do, to be honest. But I don't remember until I see someone. Oh, I don't remember until I see someone I want to see. I'm like, oh, yeah, the Hollywood Bowl.
B
Paul Abdul was just there with Boyz II Men and some. And someone else.
A
Yeah.
B
New edition. No.
A
What do you think is the most memorable Halloween look you've ever seen?
B
Like, scene.
A
Yeah. Like, in your life. Like, what is the. What is the fiercest Halloween look like?
B
With my own eyes.
A
With your own eyes.
B
At. At the bloodbath. This. I can't remember her name. This. This one lady came in dressed like Blair. Not Blair. Blair not Blair. Blair.
A
Say Blair not Blair one more time.
B
Blair. Blair. Hold on. Her name is. Her name is Linda Blair. There we go.
A
Linda.
B
Linda Blair from the Exorcist.
A
Oh, I forgot.
B
She had the bed, like, attached, like so. It looked like she. It looked like she was sitting in the bed.
A
I remember this.
B
And then the whole thing is rolling. And then because her legs were actually walking under it, she could spin in circles and flail back and forth.
A
How much did you give? What. What did the cost? The best costume win a blowbath.
B
Again, I think it was either a thousand or three thousand dollars. One of those.
A
$3,000? Really?
B
It might have been a thousand. I can't remember. It was one of the two. It was years ago. I don't remember. It was either. There's probably a poster somewhere. I was like, yeah, I think I
A
gave it 3 million.
B
I think I said a thousand or 3,000. Those are very close.
A
I get 300,000. I think that's what we gave. I think that's what we gave. So they have the parade in New York. I've never been to the parade in New York, but I would be working, like, just all my years living in New York. And it was one time. Someone dressed up as. It was Jason or. Who's the one with the knife and the hockey mask?
B
That's Jason Voorhees.
A
Jason.
B
Yeah. Jason Voorhees.
A
Yeah. Yeah. But it was like death becomes her. Where his entire stomach was blown out, but you could see through it. I still to this day do not understand how this costume was made. But you can. Like on the train, you can see through this person's midsection. Like, you could do this with your hands and your hand where you see your hand. But they were walking. It was wild.
B
It was $3,000.
A
Was it really?
B
Yes.
A
And, y', all, we didn't even get paid to be there, so that is
B
an absolute lie, and I will sue you for defamation of character.
A
I do it. I dare you.
B
And you know what you do? You'll lose.
A
Do it. You just hold a lot. I dare you. So do it. If I'm gonna lose, do it. And you.
B
And you know. Do you know that you have to pay my court case? My court fees, too?
A
Okay, do it, then.
B
Okay, maybe I will. Okay. If you're gonna come over here and lie, do it. Use the platform I gave you.
A
Do it. Go ahead.
B
The platform that I gave you.
A
Double dog dare you.
B
I'll do it. Tell one more line. I just might tell one more.
A
Give me. I mean, give me one to tell y'. All. So I'll tell you what. Listen, I'll let you have your pick of the litter. What you want me to lie about? I'll say it.
B
You've never needed inspiration to lie. You didn't need inspiration. You've never needed inspiration to lie. You.
A
You choose that you want to. Since you're gonna sue, I'm letting you choose.
B
No, I'll let you do it if you're on a chord.
A
Okay, I'll wait.
B
I'll wait for your next little lie to creep out.
A
Okay.
B
And then I'll have Bianca crush you.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Give my number two.
B
Make sure you have gang tire crush you.
A
Yeah, I would love it. Please.
B
You want to be sued?
A
I welcome it. I welcome it. Oh, no. I want to be sued by you. I welcome it by you. That's. That's. That's what I want.
B
You don't have a case, though. You lied.
A
Okay, I know. So do it.
B
And then you admitted that you lied on the podcast.
A
Yeah. So do it.
B
Sue me again. I was going to wait for your next lie. Okay. And by the way, you'll do it, so.
A
Oh, yeah, it's coming Expeditiously. Don't worry about it, baby. Before this podcast is done, you'll get another one and another one. Thank you.
B
I've already. I've got my case here. You're admitting you're admitting you're lying? Yeah, I've got my case. I'm just going to wait for you to do your thing, and then I'll just slap you with a. With a subpoena.
A
Watch me work.
B
You'll be subpoena. You'll be subpoenaed to court.
A
Watch me work.
B
You ever been sued before?
A
No, I have not. That's why I'm so excited about your lawsuit.
B
It should be fun. You should ask Detox's sister. Don't you be so people all the time.
A
Sister does sue, girl. There's a couple draggers. Girls are literally in a lot. I'm not going to talk about it right out to my business, but they're in, like, a lawsuit right now.
B
Oh, that one about the girls.
A
Well, about.
B
Oh, no, it's talking about the girls
A
being mean to people. We shouldn't talk about that.
B
I mean, I don't. I. I also don't know literally any more about.
A
I don't know either. I probably know as much as you do, but, I mean, I know the general things about, like, people were being, like, mean and nasty behind on set, and they're suing some girls, apparently.
B
I've never been sued before.
A
I've never been sued before either. It doesn't sound fun. Being sued does not sound fun.
B
No, it does not. It sounds like a lot of work, actually. You know what I mean? It sounds like a lot of. It sounds like you have to do a lot of stuff to either prove your innocence or. Well, I guess that's the only thing you can be doing or justify your behavior.
A
Yeah. One thing that you and I have never done I can't believe. Because we should have taken our time at Bloodbath, because those are probably the only Halloweens we'll be together ever again because of life and work or whatever. But we've never done a best friend's costume.
B
You know that's not true. Well, we done group costumes, though.
A
We've done.
B
We never done one for a Halloween movie.
A
Halloween. You don't have tons of talking about Halloween specifically.
B
And we did do little girls from the. Little girls from the Shining. Shining.
A
That's for our tour. Was it for Halloween?
B
We've done Ghostbusters.
A
Well, that was for our tour.
B
We've been drag queens.
A
I. You know what? And I Feel like this will. People will. Their minds will melt. If you and I did the white chicks. If you and I like, did it White chicks.
B
We've been talking about this for years.
A
I know. And we're gonna do one of these. One of these years. We're gonna pop out and show niggas and people are gonna gag.
B
I mean, white foundation is very easy to get your hands on.
A
No, but we gotta do it like they have prosthetics. Those were just white. They. They did not just paint their faces white.
B
Them.
A
Marlon and. And Sean. Marlon and Sean, they had prosthetics. We need to go like.
B
Like that then didn't Iggy Aelia dress like white chicks? Cuz everyone say she looks like the white chicks people. And she did in like a music video or something. Iggy Azalea did white chicks either for Halloween or for a music video or something. Cuz everyone, everyone kept saying that she looks like Marlon and oh my God, I can see. Does she look like the white Chase character?
A
I can see it. That's hilarious.
B
Yeah. Yeah, she did. Yeah, she actually did.
A
Let me see. Wait.
B
Said it to the curtain.
A
Show me to me.
B
Wait, wait.
A
Which one is her?
B
She's the one in the jean jacket.
A
Wait, why does it look so crazy? She looks like a fucking sex doll. Wait, why does it look like that?
B
I think she has. She has on prosthetics. Yeah, but we got to do.
A
We got to do the process when we do it. We can't just paint our faces white. We need to do it like we're going to hire my. My friend Faina who is an amazing SFX artist. She's incredible. Oh, so many ideas with. Oh, because y', all, they finally announced Dungeons and Dragons season two. It's coming out, which is very, very, very. What did I say?
B
Dragons.
A
Dungeons and Drag Queen Season 2 with myself, Bob Jujubee and Alaska again. Bob, would you. When you come back from tour, do you want. You and I. Faina can hire Faina to put us both in full. Gertrude. And what's my card says, Lamb.
B
You don't remember your character's name? That's crazy. Troy Ann. Wow. That's crazy.
A
Full prosthetic. Troy Ann and Gertrude Dragon. You and I do a shoot together maybe.
B
I mean, let me see your. I mean, I would like to see your friends work for our higher horse side on scene.
A
She's incredible. I'll send it to you. She's amazing. Fucking brilliant. She's amazing. And I think, I mean, we can get Alaska and Jujubee you know, I'll send a group text to the three of us. I think if we all did a photo.
B
Well, Jujubee does not live in la, so it'll be quite a journey for her.
A
I know, but she comes to LA pretty often.
B
Jujubee.
A
I feel like every other month, Jujube, like, hey, Jujubee's the kind of girl. Jujube would come to la. She'll be like, hey, sis, do you have a dress for this?
B
This, this?
A
I'm like, jujubee, you cannot fit my clothes. Actually, we can now, but yeah, Jujubee. Jujubee comes to LA often, so I feel like if we all did, it could be really cool. A fierce photo shoot.
B
That could be. That'd be really fun, actually.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so keep us honest about that. Y' all keep on saying, what are y' all doing to photo shoot to. To make us probably do it?
B
I mean, if I'm being fully honest, I don't think it's gonna happen just because there are so many people involved and it's four very busy drag queens and it'd be easier for us to just do our own shoots and then superimpose them together. If I'm being.
A
Well, you and I. You and I have literally mandatory time that we meet twice a week. We can make it happen. But at least the two of us.
B
Yeah, we're usually doing stuff during that time. I mean, we have time that we hang out, but when usually in our mandatory time, we're low key busy during that time.
A
Well, I have a lot of downtime in February. I'm taking the whole month of February of December all.
B
Yeah. Gonna do anything at all?
A
No, because I'm getting my surgery.
B
Well, your. Your feet, your plantar fasciitis.
A
I'm probably gonna have beautiful feet.
B
You don't think your feet are beautiful? No.
A
I heard drag feet, girl. I heard drag.
B
Plantar fasciitis was to make your.
A
It's not. It's not for plantar fasciitis.
B
Oh, you're not taking care of that.
A
Well, I mean, there's nothing. Plantar fasciitis is not a surge you can do to fix it. Like, it's a. It's a degenerative thing.
B
So what are you doing to your feet? What are you doing?
A
I'm. I have a small little bunion that they're gonna fix that. Because bunions grow over time because your bones grow. So you need to correct it now. So I'm getting my bunions corrected on Both feet, and I'm getting some of my corns removed.
B
You thought about just having a month off where you're not recovering from surgery or. Or. Or doing something just like, just. Just time off.
A
That's what that is. Is literally gonna be time off. I'll be recovering.
B
No, but time off to, like, not. Not time off to recover, just like, time off. Maybe that would be something nice you
A
should do for yourself, but why waste. Well, why. Why? I'm gonna get the. It's gonna be mandatory time off. So, like, I'm just gonna take that.
B
Just suggesting you have to take it.
A
Thank you. Thank you for thinking about me and being so sweet. I love you so much.
B
I've taken a month off, and it feels really nice. And I didn't. It wasn't trying to do a thing. I have recovered from surgery during off time, and it. I want to tell you, it is. It is not off time.
A
I recovered from surgery, and it doesn't feel like.
B
It does not feel like a vacation.
A
I feel like it does for me when I recover from surgery. Before. I remember, like, okay, I didn't work for a while. I was recovered. I didn't go to the gym or anything. I felt actually pretty good about it.
B
I was with you in recovery surgery, and you didn't look like you were
A
having a good time.
B
Be honest. Didn't like you're having a good time
A
for the first two weeks, I had to take off six weeks. So you only with me, like, you
B
were kind of roughing it. It didn't look that fun.
A
And then you left me to my. To take care of myself.
B
Yeah. I took two weeks off of my life. My very busy life.
A
And you know, Bob, I take time off to help you with two things. I love you so much, and I would do anything.
B
You taking two weeks off to take care of me?
A
No, I did not say. That's not what I said. Listen. Open your ears and listen. I said I've taken time off to help you too, and be there for you.
B
So you're agreeing that we did not take off the same amount of time for the same thing?
A
You're agreeing? Yeah. Yes. I never said I took two weeks off.
B
Right. Most people would say, wow, you took two weeks off in your very busy life. They should be only instead of like,
A
only two weeks was only.
B
That's crazy.
A
You could have taken a month off. Well, I would do it for you.
B
Some of us have to practice gratitude a little harder than others. For some of us, it comes quite natural to be. To Be gracious and have Jacob.
A
It must be Jacob. I don't know who the you talking about. It must be Jacob you're referring to. I.
B
Gratitude comes very, very easily to me. Right now, Rob is on a little bit of a break, and Layla McQueen is assisting me on the tour. So lovely to have her there with me.
A
She detect Leila. Thank you for reminding me.
B
She has this new game. It's not a new game, and it's new to me. Monopoly deal. It is a card game.
A
I play Monopoly deal. And then I play with Jenny and Dan all the time. I don't like it.
B
I thought it was fun. Layla's very quick at it, and in true me fashion, we played. And then as soon as I won, I was like, we're done playing. Never play this again. I'm gonna go home and practice on my own and then come back and annihilate.
A
What do you think? What do you think that comes from what, this?
B
Well, it's not. It's actually not something that I've done, like, twice, and I don't actually take time off. I mean, I. And also, you know, if I lose a game, I will keep playing. Like, losing a game was actually. We were. The bus was actually stopped.
A
Domino's was the last one. We played one round of Domino's, and I. You ain't playing a man game since, so explain that.
B
We played. You mean. Yo, we were done playing domino's, Then we went and played other games. Like, it wasn't like, let's. It wasn't like, let's all stop playing dominoes. Then we moved over and started playing, I think Boomerang Fu or maybe Smash Brothers.
A
No, we only played dominoes.
B
Onto a new game.
A
Yeah, do it. We only played domino's, and then you guys left. I don't know.
B
Is that true, Jacob? We didn't play any video games all that night you came. We're combining two nights. The night we played domino's, that is what happened. And then we came back for a second night, and that's the night we played video games another night. Want to play? We could play dominoes, I think then. I think the night was just done. I think I. I wan. We can play dominoes again. I mean, I. On the car. You were super upset that you lost. Jacob, shut the up.
A
Thank you, Jacob. See, y', all. Jacob. He has Spilling the real tea. Bobby trying to act all.
B
Jacob is lying. Anyone who knows me knows I really have. I. I am. I, I. I am not a sore loser. I have no qualms.
A
With losing.
B
I. I play games. I even. I mean, I feel like for some reason, we get together, people don't play Mario Kart very often, and someone's always like, bob doesn't. I'm saying. I didn't say I don't like it. I'm just not good at it. And I will play Mario Kart. I will never win. I'm so bad at Mario Kart, but I'll play. But I think that for some reason, Mario Kart just never comes up as a game to play. I mean, it's always mentioned, and then somehow it just ends up not being played ever.
A
I'm just not a big Mario Kart head. Like, I played Mario Kart a lot. Me. Me, Sean, and my cousins Kareem and Khalil, we played Mario Kart. I mean, hundreds of hours when we were kids. So, like, as an adult, I still like Mario Kart, but it's just not in, like, my thing. Like, I want to play Mario Kart. You know what I mean?
B
I don't mind it. I'm just not great at it. But I do like playing the game, though. It is fun. And, yeah, I don't mind losing at games. I think that one of my. I think two of my greatest gifts in life is that, one, I'm very patient, and two, I'm not a sore loser. But I do like to win, so I will. I will keep playing. In fact, sometimes losing will make me keep playing even more and more until I can get a win.
A
Yeah, you do lose a lot.
B
I think that's funny coming from you. Go ahead.
A
I think I'm gonna go down a record of saying that, and I don't.
B
I've never.
A
I've never trick or treated before. Like, literally, not even once. I've never went to a neighbor's house and rang a bell and got a treat or a trick, but I have eaten a lot of candy in my life. I'm a big.
B
You know what trick or treat comes from?
A
I don't know when. Halloween isn't Halloween, like, an Irish thing Like.
B
Like, you know, like, trick or treat me. And trick or treat is like, if you don't give me a treat, I'm gonna do something to you.
A
No.
B
Like, I'm gonna trick you. I'm gonna scare you. I'm gonna throw egg at your house. So give me a treat, or you're gonna. You're gonna get a trick.
A
Got it?
B
Yeah.
A
But one thing that I. I think I have eaten a lot of candy, and I think that candy corn is probably just on record as one of the most disgusting, nastiest types of candy I've ever put in my mouth. And I don't understand how people are obsessed and love the taste of candy corn. It's. It's such a strange, nasty flavor to me.
B
Candy corn sponsors this partners
A
like to other people, but for me personally, I think it's delicious candy corn spot.
B
I mean, I like getting our spine. I mean, I'm not, like, crazy about it, but I will eat candy corn. I think it's a perfectly. It's kind of like vanilla caramelly. It doesn't taste anything like corn. It just looks like corn.
A
It doesn't look like corn. It looks like a tooth.
B
Yeah, but.
A
But it's like.
B
It's like a kernel of corn. Because, you know, if you stack the. You know, if you stack the candy corn up in a circle, it will look like. It will look like a corn on the cob.
A
If you stack it in a. What if you say.
B
If you make us. If you. You can stack the candy corn. If you keep stacking it in, like, a little circle, it will look like a corn on the cob.
A
My brain is not PC what you're saying. I'm gonna look at this so it looks like.
B
If you were to. It looks like a piece of corn, right? I'm looking at this off of the cob.
A
Oh, you gotta, like, you stick it in something.
B
No, you can just stack it in a circle. I mean, it helps Sigma something. You can also just stack them in a circle.
A
Oh, yeah, I'm looking. Ew, that looks so gnarly. And you.
B
You can stack it up and it looks like corn.
A
Dad, it looks so gnarly.
B
It looks like candy corn.
A
No, it did not. This is the picture I'm looking at. Bob, you think this looks good?
B
I mean, it's not about it looking good. I mean, it looks like candy corn. I'm not like a candy corn head. I'm not, like, obsessed with candy corn or anything, but, like, I mean, which
A
is crazy when y' all made fun of me talking about some weed head. Now he's talking about some candy corn head.
B
Yeah, I'm not a candy corn head. But, I mean, I. I guess I don't. I don't have as visceral reaction to candy corn as you do, but candy corn is. You know, it's all right.
A
It's.
B
I wouldn't. It's not my favorite Halloween candy, for sure.
A
What's your favorite Halloween candy?
B
I mean, specifically like there's certain cases you only see at Halloween, which is like candy corn and those little strawberry things. They look like the packaging looks like a strawberry.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
And then there's the. Then there's those yellow and I mean those orange and black saltwater taffies, I think, or I'm not even sure what flavor they are. You know, I saw where it's happy.
A
No.
B
What?
A
No, not saltwater taffy, girl. I think that's a very Southern candy. Southern people love saltwater taffy.
B
Everything you don't understand isn't Southern, Monet.
A
That's not how it works. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying something that you don't know
B
as something you like or grew up with. You're like, that must be very Southern.
A
Never said that. I never said that, though. There are many things I'm saying a lot, though.
B
Like I'll be like, oh, I used to watch Yu Gi. Oh, I didn't watch Yu Gi. Oh, there must be like a Southern thing. Maybe Southern people watch Yu Gi.
A
Oh, I don't.
B
But I'll be like, oh, you know, sometimes when I was in college, we would listen to like acdc. That must be like the Southern thing. Southern people listen to acdc. You do that. That is a very common thing you do.
A
It's not true, but I will say salt water.
B
Tap, tap. Comment below. Do y' all think Monat's always calling anything she doesn't understand Southern?
A
What is this
B
is.
A
I don't.
B
Now, I don't know where saltwater taffy's from, but I'm just saying everything. I don't. I have no clue where saltwater taffy's from. But everything you don't understand is not Southern.
A
Well, saltwater taffy originated in a.
B
And where. Please finish your statement, please.
A
My Internet.
B
I lost Internet. Please finish your statement. I would love you to finish your statement, please.
A
I lost connection.
B
Well, you know, I'll look it up.
A
No, I saw what A taffy originated in Atlantic City, New Jersey.
B
It must be a. Hold on. It must be a Southern thing.
A
It is considered a southern specialty in some areas because of its regional ingredients and cultural significance. Savannah, Georgia.
B
Nap like you're changing the wheel.
A
I'm literally reading it. It is considered.
B
You're adding things in.
A
It is considered a Southern specialty in some areas because of its regional ingredients and cultural significance. Savannah, Georgia. The salt table in Savannah makes saltwater taffy that makes described Georgia grown and made in an old fashioned way that come from somewhere. I've Seen saltwater taffy.
B
It comes from New Jersey.
A
Clearly did, but it has a Southern tradition to it.
B
Now, I've certainly seen saltwater taffy in the South. That's because I'm from the South. I was like, yeah, there's saltwater taffy here.
A
That's crazy how my Internet just went out. Like, that's crazy.
B
Second line. Get rid of your lawsuit. Give baby. Please have money exchange sued expeditiously. I would like to own everything this bitch has. I want that weird little chair behind her. I want the. I want that scepter from All Star 7. Specifically. If I don't get anything, you make sure I get that motherfucking scepter from All Star 7.
A
She.
B
It will be mine.
A
What is that? What is your. What is your thing with this? Like, what is up with you to
B
say why I want it?
A
Why? I. I know. I know you want it. The question is why?
B
I think it's pretty. I. I love that. It's like a little short scepter.
A
It's not that short.
B
It's shorter than the. Than the winning scepters, is it? Yeah, it's way shorter than the winning scepters. Do you have your winning scepter with you? There's no way. You think they're the same size?
A
They're like, yeah, they're the same length. This one is like a little. A little shorter.
B
That's not the same length.
A
A little girl, like, what? That's like six inches.
B
But I want to be clear. But I want to be clear. That's not the same length.
A
Oh, my God. But you fucking the same length and my fucking dick on your chin.
B
We caught her in the third lie. We are really building a great case. I have a whole episode recorded. So y', all, this is gonna be an easy, easy win, period. Send.
A
You're such a monster.
B
People who talk to their text girl.
A
Peppermint. Peppermint is okay, I don't think I'll tell you this. I'll ask her before we go. So we came down to Atlanta for your mom's homegoing and stuff. You know, we all went out that night. The first night. And then I went back with Pep and Mitch to their hotel. We're at the same hotel. And I helped Peppermint upstairs with all her bags in her room. Cause Mitchell's parking the car or whatever. And it was a two day trip, right? We get to the hotel, how many
B
bags does she have?
A
We get to the hotel room. Berlin takes out her. She takes out her own personal router. Cause she wants to have her own personal WI fi for the room. Then she takes. Then she starts unscrewing all the bulbs in the. And I was like, bev, what are you doing? She's like, girl, I had to put my own. I had to put my own bulbs in the room. So Bev is putting her own bulbs to set up her own ambiance in the room. And then Peppermint texts out this other. It's like this switchboard. I was like, pep. I was sitting in the corner.
B
Pepper's a techie. A lot of people don't know this about Pep. Pepper's a techie. Get very techie. Yeah.
A
I was like, peppermint. A router. What do you need a router for? The hotel has WI fi. What do you need a router for? She's like, girl, because I put my own router on, and then I don't have to change any. Nate. Any passwords, but you need to put a password to get it. It was fucking hysterical.
B
She had a deal with Microsoft a while back, like, where she. Pep. Pep gave me and Jacob an Xbox.
A
Yeah, corrected you. Almost said you. You and Jacob. Yeah, Fix your motherfucking mouth. Jacob's about to go put that little camera on and gather that pussy.
B
Wow, you're feeling so confrontational.
A
That's right. I love that. Jacob,
B
I wonder what's going on in your personal life that you feel the need to be so confrontational today.
A
Jacob,
B
you know what it is in your life that's going on? Did maybe someone give you a call or a text from. From someone, like an old enemy?
A
A. Jacob, are you shook, honey?
B
Does this seem like it's all stemming from your strong belief that children should be birthed as experiments?
A
Oh, yeah. I want a dark angel. My kids.
B
What is Dark Angel? What does that mean?
A
The hit television show with Jessica Alba circa 2000s, where I never watched this.
B
Charmed, right?
A
No. Dark Angel. Oh, Charmed was Shannon Doherty and those other ladies. That was the witch show. Dark angel was like. They were like, test on these kids and like to, like, genetically modify them. And they were like these, like, super soldiers. It was such a good show. It only had two seasons. It's one of my favorite TV shows I've ever seen.
B
What's that character named, like, Dark angel from Charm?
A
I don't watch. I don't watch Charm like that. It's like, a few episodes, but I never really watched Charmed.
B
Wait, so what's the. What's the concept of Dark Angel?
A
I always just Told you it was these children.
B
You're kind of mumbling, though. Can you say it, like, clearly? Also, I've challenged you online to see if you could do the Dora Me challenge better than me, and I don't think you can.
A
Wait, what? Did you challenge me?
B
I would like to see you try.
A
How do I know you challenge me?
B
You should watch it right now. Go to my TikTok.
A
I saw yours. You did two of them.
B
Yeah. And then in the second one, I challenged you, and I want to see if you can do it better. I'm curious.
A
Oh, I'll do it right after I get it. Do it right after we get done.
B
Because to be honest, I don't think you. I don't think you'll be able to beat me.
A
Okay. I don't think you will. And what is to quote you, and what is that based off of?
B
I. Based off of my knowledge of the world.
A
Your knowledge of your worth of the world.
B
Knowing you, I don't think that you will be able to do this challenge as well. Jacob is. I would like you to watch it on camera, please. I want to watch you gag at the marvel of my operatic. My vocal prowess. Watch it, please.
A
Such a. You are. Watch it. Interesting creature. It's loading. Give me a second.
B
Goddamn pepper has Peppermint. Didn't say Berri yet. I want to see if you can. If you can possibly just the.
A
The first.
B
Keep watching. Keep. Keep watching. Yeah,
A
yeah.
B
Gliding through. Yeah, gliding. Look at that. Look at that. Yeah, Gliding through. I would love to see you do it as easily as. As classily as I did it.
A
The riff at the end. Monica never flip flopping wife.
B
Wow.
A
Why do you have so much. So much vitriol for me online? I do nothing but love and support you. You know that, right?
B
Because I'm a better singer than you.
A
You probably are.
B
Probably. I have an app that proves it.
A
I'm gonna do mine after this.
B
I can't wait. I cannot wait to see you fail.
A
That's great.
B
I can't think I can use it. That's crazy. All right, go, go. I don't know. Go package up my scepter, which will
A
be mailed to me soon.
B
Once you get your litigation papers, you might want to put it in the box. Now. Save yourself the time. Go get the scepter. Put it in a package. Otherwise you'll end up doing it later anyway. So now you're going to do it later. Which one? Shut the shut.
A
Goodbye.
B
Wait, listen, before you guys go, me and Monet are doing early releases a week early starting next week. I don't know when this is coming out, but early releases of our YouTube videos. Monet will be doing her Monet talks. I'll be doing my wig try on videos and my vlogs and my makeup videos. You can get them a week early, uncensored on the sibling rivalry. Patreon. Now, don't get mad at us. We are going to tier them.
A
Yes. For the sibling. The sibling. The sibling tier and higher. Those will be getting the early release a week early. And the audio ad free version will be for cousin and higher. So everyone just hit audio. No ads, nothing. That will come out a week early.
B
But because it means everyone just tell us.
A
Strangers.
B
Not the strangers. Yeah.
A
Thank you.
B
Strangers know it says you're getting nothing when they come in. I don't think we have that many strangers, do we?
A
I don't know.
B
I bet.
A
For you, honestly.
B
Thanks. I appreciate it.
A
Yeah. Okay, cool. Have a good night, y'. All. Bye. Wait, Jacob.
B
When we post our. Our videos, they don't go to strangers, do they?
A
No. You. You. You can choose what's here. Get it?
B
Get it. But if you are cousins. But when you are a stranger, you can participate sometime in our polls. That we do. Just to be the tiebreaker between me and Monet's arguments. Those strangers. Strangers don't get a whole lot. But also, we only have 47 people prescribe subscribed as STR.
A
And those $47 are nice.
B
Yeah. I appreciate it. Thank you all so much. Thank you all. All right. Thank you, everyone.
A
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Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
This episode of Sibling Rivalry dives into all things Halloween, from iconic costumes and party culture to personal stories about trick-or-treating, candy, and drag. Bob and Monét serve their signature blend of banter, shade, and storytelling, while also touching on topics like gentle parenting, circuit parties, drag career reflections, and some signature, escalating playful disputes. Expect plenty of laughs, candid nostalgia, and strongly held (and hotly contested) Halloween opinions.
“I want to have a kid to see if I have the propensity to be a gentle parent.” (14:07)
“That’s a terrible reason to have a child.” (11:49)
“That’s not what an accusation is…” (16:03)
“That’s how you do it, so don’t say that I did something. That’s how you do it, bitch.” (16:28)
Monét’s Minneapolis Opera Gig
“Minnesota Opera has such a special place in my heart because they gave me my first role in drag.” (19:48)
Bob’s Touring Life
Real Estate & Gay Stereotypes
“In my experience, 100% of the realtors I’ve worked with have been gay… It feels like a very gay profession.” (21:50)
Bob’s Most Memorable Halloween Look
“She had the bed, like, attached… her legs were actually walking under it… she could spin in circles…” (43:42)
What Will Be 2024’s Big Halloween Costumes?
(28:08–30:51)
“I don’t think I really have an interest in doing drag shows like that anymore... I love seeing that kind of drag. I don’t think I’m interested in doing any more shows where I’m like, look at this crazy costume.” (28:13)
“Candy corn is probably... the most disgusting, nastiest type of candy I’ve ever put in my mouth.” (58:33)
“For me personally, I think it’s delicious. Candy corn spot.” (59:00)
“Everything you don’t understand isn’t Southern, Monet.” (61:16)
“I have a whole episode recorded. So y’all, this is going to be an easy, easy win, period.” (64:20)
“I want to watch you gag at the marvel of my operatic… my vocal prowess.” (68:08)
| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |------------|-----------------------------------------------| | 10:45–14:29 | Gentle Parenting, Twitter Drama | | 15:08–18:42 | Noodle Accusation & Podcast Lore | | 19:17–21:10 | Monét’s Opera Gig & Bob’s Tour | | 27:26–32:23 | Halloween Looks, Drag Costuming Philosophy | | 32:23–35:25 | Circuit Party Culture | | 43:42–44:58 | Memorable Costumes (Linda Blair Exorcist) | | 48:09–51:54 | Best Friends Halloween Costumes (White Chicks) | | 58:03–62:22 | Trick-or-Treating & Candy Corn | | 64:08–65:57 | Lawsuit Play-fighting & Scepter Bit | | 65:03–66:12 | Peppermint’s Techie Rituals |
Expect a rapid-fire mix of Queen-to-Queen banter, exaggeration, mock-legal threats, and Sibling Rivalry’s trademark blend of playful shade and heartfelt reflection. The conversation weaves between drag industry insider anecdotes, pop culture, stand-up storytelling, and affectionate ribbing. Fans of the show will feel right at home catching every pop-culture aside and moment of mutual (and self-) drag.
This episode encapsulates Sibling Rivalry’s essence: equal parts comedy, drag wisdom, queer culture, pop nostalgia, and sisterly chaos. If you’re looking for RuPaul’s Drag Race queens talking Halloween, the evolution of drag, and loving-yet-cutthroat reads, this is a can’t-miss outing.
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