The One With Bruno

Summary

Sibling Rivalry: The One With Bruno

Air Date: January 26, 2026
Featuring: Bob the Drag Queen, Monét X Change, and guest Bruno C. Alcantara

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Overview

In this vivacious episode of Sibling Rivalry, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change welcome special guest Bruno C. Alcantara—known internationally as a beloved member of RuPaul’s Drag Race Pit Crew. The trio explore Bruno’s journey from Bahia, Brazil to international fame, touching on topics such as Brazilian culture and fan fervor, the behind-the-scenes of Drag Race, sexiness and energy, plastic surgery, queer subcultures, and even a playful dating game. Throughout, the chemistry is infectious and the conversation alternates between hilarious, heartfelt, and eye-opening.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Getting to Know Bruno (01:22–03:12)

• Portuguese Word Game: The hosts and Bruno test their knowledge of Brazilian Portuguese, playfully competing over words and pronunciation.
  • Bruno: “I can be watching you guys all day.” (01:59)
  • Bruno guides Bob and Monét through words like “saudade” and “gostoso”.
• Bruno’s Background:
  • Origin: Bahia, Brazil—“the biggest black community outside Africa,” with vibrant culture, music, and the best Carnival.
  • Moved to LA in 2014 for three months of English school, ended up staying—did not initially speak English.
  • Bob: “Did you speak English when you came here?”
  • Bruno: “Nothing.” (04:31)

Energy, Smiling, and Public Life (04:51–06:21)

• On Smiling and Kindness:
  • Bob observes that part of Bruno’s appeal is his genuine happiness and kindness.
  • Bruno: “I do have intention to show up with the best energy possible wherever I go.” (05:51)
  • On kindness: “I choose to be as nice as I can… Smiling can make a big change.” (05:59, 06:16)

Social Recharge & Introversion (07:22–07:48)

• Monét and Bruno bond over the need to recharge by spending time alone, especially after intense social events:
  • Bruno: “I do need time alone a lot. And, like, I don’t want to interact with people, see people sometimes.” (07:22)

Pets, Animal Archetypes, and Sexiness (09:32–10:17)

• Conversation turns to pets, with Bruno quipping, “I am the pet. I need to be pet.” (09:33)
• Bob introduces the concept that people align with animals—labeling himself a cat (“because of my, like, not niceness and my kind of grumpiness”) and calling Bruno a dog for being smiley and forgiving. (09:49)

Plastic Surgery and Medical Tourism (10:36–11:24)

• Monét admits being a fan of plastic surgery, sparking a discussion about medical tourism for cosmetic procedures in Brazil and Mexico.
  • Monét: “I mean, I’m a fan of plastic surgery.” (10:44)
  • Bruno recommends Brazil but understands Monét’s concerns about language barriers.

Brazilian Fan Culture & Fame (11:38–13:32)

• Bob marvels at passionate Brazilian fans:
  • “Can you tell me what it is about Brazil? Like, what is up with fan culture in Brazil?… I’ve never seen anything like it ever.” (12:12)
• Bruno attributes it to Brazilian passion and zest for life.
• Bob shares wild experiences during the Madonna tour—hundreds of Grindr messages all referencing an inside podcast joke—and a security bridge built due to fan intensity. (13:00)

Big Brother Dreams & National Pride (13:40–14:32)

• Bruno shares he’s auditioned for Big Brother Brazil, driven by pride and a desire to work more in Brazil.
  • Bruno: “I’m very proud to be Brazilian… I am still very connected to my country…” (14:32)

Fame Perceptions (15:16)

• Bruno: “I don’t see myself this way, first of all. And when I go to Brazil, I just want to have fun. I’m Brazilian… this is my thing.” (15:16)

Brazilian “Sexy Energy” (15:45–16:23)

• Bob: “Why are Brazilians so sexy? …It’s not just physically, but, like, they’re just, like, sexy.” (15:45)
• Bruno agrees: “I would say it’s the energy… Brazilians are very sexy.” (15:59)

Anita, Pabllo Vittar, and Representation (16:50–17:29)

• Discussion about Brazilian superstars Anita and Pabllo Vittar, their influence and fame.
  • “Anita is the queen.” (Bruno, 17:11)
  • Anita’s age clarified—she’s 32.

Bruno’s Drag Race Journey and Pit Crew Life (19:06–22:32)

• On joining Drag Race:
  • Through connections in the entertainment industry, originally working Madonna’s dressing room and later introduced to Drag Race production via mutual friends.
  • Bruno became a fan-favorite Pit Crew member—Monét: “It would be so weird to see a season of Drag Race without your big, lovely smile there.” (33:37)
• Pit Crew Logistics:
  • Garment requirements: “We cannot show the… shaft… you need to be smooth.” (32:21)
  • On ranking/seniority and casting: Sometimes it’s availability, sometimes seniority, sometimes the producers’ choice.
  • Entry: Often through social media or personal connections; Bruno’s “audition” was working on an Elton John music video with drag queens.

The Dating Game: Flirting With Bruno (21:07–53:38)

• Bruno describes his ideal partner:
  • “Self-awareness. Confidence… a little obsession for me.” (21:07)
  • Wants a partner to be “a little obsessed in a light way… not someone who wants to kill me.” (21:19)
• Dating game: Both Bob and Monét answer questions on relationship values, sexual preferences, and healing from life’s emotional wounds.
  • Bob shares about losing his mother: “…the biggest healing I’ve had to do in my life…” (26:08)
  • Monét reflects on not winning her original season and building self-worth beyond external validation.
• Playful “approaches” at parties/the movies, with Bruno rating both as authentic and charming.

Queer Subcultures: Bear, Twink, Wolf (38:07–43:46)

• Explaining terms and their nuances—how “daddy,” “twink,” “bear,” and “wolf” function in the gay community, both in the US and Brazil.
  • In Brazil, similar subcultures exist, but not always with the same terms—“in Portuguese are bears for sure. I wouldn't know to say all of them.” (43:27)
  • Bob: “Twink, bear, and daddy are connected to how they look…” (39:57)

Fame, Boundaries, and DMs (45:20–48:48)

• Bruno on being sexualized and approached because of his visibility.
  • “There are different things. It could be that they feel like they can relate to me… or… just think of me and this sexual thing and they should touch it and have it.” (45:30)
  • He admits to using Instagram DMs for hookups, as do the hosts.
  • Discusses the complications and skepticism encountered on Grindr as a public figure.

Madonna, Divas & Role Models (41:21–42:49)

• Madonna’s special place in the hearts of Brazilians and personally for Bruno.
  • “She has a huge impact on my life… she’s very inspiring and crazy hard… I’ve never met someone who works harder than Madonna ever.” (42:08, 42:36)

Favorite Queens and Drag Race Community (57:59–59:46)

• Bruno reflects on how working with RuPaul and the diverse Drag Race contestants has influenced him.
  • “I was afraid of drag queens… they can be so funny and so dry humor…” (59:29)
  • On favorites: “RuPaul is my favorite queen.” (58:10) But praises queens like Valentina, Morphine, and Vanjie for their unique energies.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Brazilian Energy:
  “We are very passionate people. And we love to celebrate life.”
  —Bruno (12:27)

• On a Smile’s Power:
  “I think smiling can make a big change.”
  —Bruno (06:16)

• On Fame:
  “I don’t see myself this way. And when I go to Brazil, I just want to have fun. I’m Brazilian, this is my thing.”
  —Bruno (15:16)

• On Authenticity in Dating:
  “I love a guy with attitude. I love when somebody actually have the audacity to say I want you. I’m into you.”
  —Bruno (49:16)

• On Navigating Grindr as a Public Figure:
  “A lot of people, they think I am… a fake profile… The amount of proofs you need to give, it’s so annoying.”
  —Bruno (47:30) Bob’s frustration: “I’ve had to show you three forms of id… and at this point, it’s a wrap.” (48:23)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:22 – Portuguese word game & intro to Bruno
• 03:25 – Bruno’s Brazilian heritage and moving to LA
• 05:51 – Bruno on intentional positivity
• 07:22–07:48 – Coping with social exhaustion
• 09:33 – Pets and “everyone’s an animal”
• 10:44 – Plastic surgery and medical tourism
• 12:12–13:32 – Brazil fan culture, Madonna stories
• 14:32 – National pride and Big Brother aspirations
• 15:16 – Fame and personal perspective
• 19:06 – Joining Drag Race and Pit Crew logistics
• 21:07 – Bruno’s dating ideal
• 24:34 – Sexual roles talk (Versatile vs. Top/Bottom)
• 26:08–27:18 – Healing emotional wounds: grief and rejection
• 33:37 – Status as fan-favorite Pit Crew member
• 38:07 – Explaining bear/twink/daddy/wolf
• 43:05 – Subcultures in Brazil
• 45:30 – Life as a sex symbol & navigating DMs
• 49:16 – Best way to “shoot your shot” at Bruno
• 53:38 – Flirting game wrap-up
• 57:59 – Queens Bruno loves working with
• 59:29 – On being intimidated by drag queens
• 60:08 – Bruno chooses (hilariously diplomatically) between Bob and Monét in the dating game

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Final Thoughts

This episode offers a delightful window into queer culture, Brazilian joy, the realities of public life on Drag Race, and the deeply relatable search for authentic connection. Whether you’re a fan of the show or meeting Bruno for the first time, expect to laugh out loud and come away with a fresh appreciation for kindness, resilience, and the power of a good smile.

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Where to find Bruno:
Instagram: @brunocalcantara
“Please feel free to contact Bruno if you see him on Grindr, but be respectful and don’t assume he’s lying about who he is.” — Bob the Drag Queen (60:42)

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Transcript

[Jacob]

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[Bruno C. Alcantara]

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[Jacob]

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[Bruno C. Alcantara]

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[Jacob]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen,

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

and I'm Monet's James.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is sibling rivalry.

[Jacob]

On this week's episode, we invite Bruno

[Bob the Drag Queen]

to the podcast, we break his heart,

[Jacob]

and we find out what made Bruno say this.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I don't see myself this way. We find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, people didn't like me. And we found out what made Monet say this.

[Jacob]

I mean, I'm a fan of plastic surgery.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First, we're gonna start by doing. We're gonna go word for word and see who knows the most Portuguese.

[Jacob]

I only know two things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I'm gonna say obrigado.

[Jacob]

I know obrigado as well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can't use my. You can't use my word.

[Jacob]

Krakura.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just taught you Krakura.

[Jacob]

You do not. I told you about Krakura too.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I can be watching you guys all day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I learned krakura from Alaska.

[Jacob]

Oh, my God. Alaska told me, too, when I did Brazil with her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pasitona.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Pasivona.

[Jacob]

Pasivo.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Pasivo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Alo. Aloha.

[Jacob]

Joao.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Joao.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who has the best Brazilian accent of you two?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah, I mean, give me one more. What about I give you a word and then you both.

[Jacob]

Yes, yes.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Let's say saudaji.

[Jacob]

Saudaji.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Saudaji.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

That was very.

[Jacob]

Moltobene.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Is Italian. Gostozo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gustozo. Gusto.

[Jacob]

You don't get to go twice. Gustozu.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

That was a tiny thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What she learned from my mistakes.

[Jacob]

And ladies and gentlemen, we.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is a cold open for our very you don't have to tell them it's a cold open. They know.

[Jacob]

Well, Bob, you started podcast before even introducing anyone. You don't have to say. Ladies and gentlemen, we have the very gorgeous, fierce, talented, and funny. And funny Bruno Alcantara.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How is that pronunciation?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Alcantara. Oh, Alcantara for Americans. But you're almost a Brazilian at this point, so.

[Jacob]

Hey, I want to go to Brazil more. I've only been once. I want to go more. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where are you from in Brazil?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I'm originally from Bahia. Bahia. So Bahia is the biggest black community outside of Africa. Oh, so full of flavor. Best music, best carnival.

[Jacob]

Okay. So my. Me. So my best friend and my best friend Duan, we went to Brazil together, and we're gonna go to Carnival next year in Bahia, but it was. We started doing it too late, and we're going to not have. So we. We need more planning time because apparently it's the best carnival in the entire country. I mean, that's what everyone says.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

That's when I feel the happiest in my life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When did you move to. To LA?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

2014.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, so you're like, so, what, nine years ago?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

11. Almost 12.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can do math, I swear.

[Jacob]

You do math very well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you came. When you came to the States, were you like, I'm going to be on tv, I'm going to get into acting, or did you, like, Trip? How did you end up on Drag Race?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Wow.

[Jacob]

Wow. You clearly didn't watch the Monet Talks episode of Bruno.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't watch Monet Talks.

[Jacob]

Clearly.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I actually came just to English school for three months.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, nice.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

And I was gonna go back to Brazil.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you speak English when you came here?

[Jacob]

No, not everything here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nothing.

[Jacob]

That's fierce. I feel like if I was. I mean, I guess if I was. If I went to a country and I did, like, let's say they put me in Japan. In Japan, you kind of just. You, you, you either it's fight or flight. Either you learn it or you fucking go home. Or you're just a mess.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or you take the lesson. You take the lesson, or you just

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

smile around and you're like, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, you do have a. Does your smile get you out of a lot? You have a beautiful smile. You always seem so happy. Have you ever, like, used your smile to get out of stuff?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, I've been doing this for years, right?

[Jacob]

Smiling. That's how I am.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

So I'm like. I have no idea what they're talking

[Bob the Drag Queen]

about, but, like, do you, like, Use your sexiness to, like, get you things. I would.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I think the intention behind is not like you. I mean, I'm just this way. I'm the way I am. I don't think I. Okay, I'm gonna play sexy so that way I can get this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not really part of your. Your appeal too, is that you. You don't show sexiness in a way that's like. It's like a very, like, charming. You're smiling a lot. It's not like mugging and serving. I think part of what makes people so attracted to you is that you seem so happy and almost oblivious to the fact that you're really attractive.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Oh, thank you for that. I do have intention to show up with the best energy possible wherever I go.

[Jacob]

And if I feel that, I think,

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

you know, life is tough and I think I really appreciate people that they show up very kind and present and. Because I know so that it's not because their life is perfect, but because they are choosing to be this way. And I choose to be as nice as I can.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

And, you know, and I think smiling can make a big change. And.

[Jacob]

Well. So you and Bobby. I just did that. That. That drag stars cruise together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Jacob]

Was it cute?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, people didn't like me because I'm not as happy in. And smiling.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

What do you mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, everyone was like, I was mean. People said I was mean. And I was like. I mean, I guess I'm not smiley. I'm not like, you know, I don't smile as much as you do. I'm not like, hi. And people are like, bob. Is anyone tell you that I was mean to them?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, I did not hear that. But everybody was there to see you. Come on. I was there in the theater.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I think I'm actually a pretty nice. I'm not. I'm not overly nice. I was watching Dick Van Dyke. He just turned 100 yesterday.

[Jacob]

Oh, Dick Van Dyke is still alive?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Very much so.

[Jacob]

Oh, wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Very much alive.

[Jacob]

God bless him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And he was like, you know, how live this long just being nice? And I was like, I'm. I'm cooked.

[Jacob]

You're one from the grave, girl.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

You don't think you're nice?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm nice enough. I'm like, as nice as the next person. But I'm not. I'm not overly nice. No, I. I don't have it in me to be, like, super nice. I just don't.

[Jacob]

I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It seems exhausting. But you don't seem exhausted at all.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, I do need time Alone a lot. And, like, I don't want to interact with people, see people sometimes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was.

[Jacob]

I was going to say, how do you recharge? I think for me, how I like, recharge is being alone and not talking to anyone. Even like, after. I just had an engagement party in my house and a lot of people came over the next day. I didn't want to see or talk to anyone, even Andy. I was like, do not go to the other room. Do not talk to me. I just. Because I feel like I gave out so much energy of.

[Ad]

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[Jacob]

See, I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't. I don't. I don't have all this. So tell me about the party. I. I heard that some. That there was a ceremony between the animals.

[Jacob]

So I had an engagement party when

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I had an engagement.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

No. Congratulations.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you. I also didn't get an invite. Anyway. It's true. We didn't get invites. Can you acknowledge that? Anyway, our feelings.

[Jacob]

I'm moving on. So Bruno's hurt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Look at that.

[Jacob]

Me and my today. And then. So I have a cat and he has a dog.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you have Bruno's phone number?

[Jacob]

Actually, no, I don't have.

[Ad]

We.

[Jacob]

We. I don't have Bruno's phone number. We need to text more. I don't have your number.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I think I have yours. I mean, I have to check.

[Jacob]

Yeah. Bruno. You do not have my number, Bruno. No, no, I don't think so. I would like for us to have numbers. Okay.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

No, I'll give you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So maybe Bruno can get invited to the wedding. Maybe.

[Jacob]

Absolutely. Bruno's. Bruno's definitely Bruno. Can you officiate my wed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wedding?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Oh, my God.

[Jacob]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And get a good rate?

[Jacob]

That's a no. Bruno said, wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And get a good rate.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, I beg a responsibility. I have officiated a friend's wedding.

[Jacob]

Oh, nice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A friend. One who invites him to the engagement party.

[Jacob]

Anyways.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you want Bruno to come as a servant to your wedding?

[Jacob]

So. And my fiance had this idea where he wanted to put his dog in a tuxedo and my cat in a wedding gown, and they have a thing at the party where they. I don't know what the fuck you're gonna do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't imagine Colleen participating.

[Jacob]

Exactly. Colleen, she doesn't like putting clothes on. So she doesn't like being around people? No, she was actually mingling. She was outside. She was on the roof at one point. Colleen got on the roof? How? I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cats can go in. That's the difference. Cats and your Dog. If you put something on the counter, you have a small dog. They can't get up there. Your cat can go anywhere. Your cat can get on the roof. If your cat wants to hell out, you can't get on the ceiling.

[Jacob]

Exhibit A. Yeah, she's walking on the ceiling.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cats open doors.

[Jacob]

Yeah, my cat opens doors.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's too much.

[Jacob]

Do you have a pet?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I. I am the pet. Yeah. I need to be pet. And I.

[Jacob]

Bob has this theory that everyone's an animal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you're. You're definitely a dog. Definitely a dog.

[Jacob]

And what are you?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

So I heard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I mean, I'm. I'm a cat.

[Jacob]

I don't. I. I disagree. I think you're a dog girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, I'm a cat because. Because of my, like, not niceness and my kind of grumpiness and my directness and. Whereas a dog is, like, smiley, and they're just so forgiving and like, you can't do a dog wrong. The dog will always forgive you. And the slightest inconvenience, a cat will be like, I don't with you anymore.

[Jacob]

And who. But you also think some people are bugs as well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, well, they know everyone looks like an animal. Oh, so you're. What's his name? Dalton is a bug.

[Jacob]

Looks like a bug.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. You're kind of a bug, too. It's not a bad thing.

[Jacob]

No, you can be a dog, a bug.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can be a bug and be beautiful. It's because you have big eyes. You have.

[Jacob]

I wish I had big eyes. So I started surgery to get bigger eyes. Oh, no.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Really?

[Jacob]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it's time to slow down.

[Jacob]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's time to.

[Jacob]

I want to get rib sculpt to bring my ribs in. I want to get my eyes hurt to get my eyes bigger. I mean, I'm a fan of plastic surgery.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what? It's your body.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

You got a little. You got to go to Brazil then. Because.

[Jacob]

See, but I'm afraid of getting plastic surgery in a place where I don't speak the language, like, primarily to me, like, that. That gives me anxiety.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We have very good doctors.

[Jacob]

Oh, I know. I know. But I'm just. It's my own thing of, like, I just want to make sure I speak because, I mean, Trinity goes to Mexico a lot. She gets a lot of her surgeries done in Mexico.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's. I just saw a whole thing online. A lot of people who. Texas are going to. They're crossing the border. They live in. They live in, like, South Texas. They're Crossing the border to get their teeth done because they can't afford what would cost $3,000 here. 800 bucks in Mexico.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

That's crazy.

[Jacob]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I.

[Jacob]

My.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My. My Silas got his teeth done in Brazil when we were there for. For the Madonna.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Brazil is very good for all of the changes. You want to wait where.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've been to Sao Paulo, which is the capital.

[Jacob]

Yes, yes.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, not the capital, but it's

[Jacob]

the biggest city Rio is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, Rio is not the capital. Brazilia.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Brazilia is the capital.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've been to Brazilia. I've been to Sao Paulo. I've been to Rio de Janeiro. I went to some other town. It's like. They say it's like Palm Springs, but. But in Brazil, it's like, Some be. No, it's not. No, it's not. It's, like, beachy. So it's not Palm Springs. I guess it's like Florida, but I guess all of Brazil is beachy. No, not all, I guess, if you're on it.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

But a lot of Brazil is by the beach.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There was some town that was like. I can't remember the name. I've done five town, five stops in Brazil.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

How'd you like it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I gotta say. Can you tell me what it is about Brazil? Like, what is up with the fan culture in Brazil? Like, y', all. When y' all love someone, it's crazy. It's like. I've never seen anything like it ever.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

We are very passionate people.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

And we love to celebrate life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

The energy so is different, I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I went to Brazil with Madonna, I got literally over 200 messages on Grindr. None of them were to have sex, by the way.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Oh, that sucks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I hooked up with one guy. I hooked up with one guy. He was super hot. But it was all in reference to a joke I made on this podcast.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every message said, now clap.

[Jacob]

Now clap.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm not kidding. Over 200 messages that all said, now clap. And the fandom was so wild, they had to build a bridge from the hotel. They built a bridge from the hotel to the beach because we couldn't walk on the street. So we went. We went upstairs, crossed the bridge, went down, and they tore the bridge down when we were gone. It was insane. Have you ever been to one of those?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I was there for the show. I saw watching you.

[Jacob]

Wow. And you. You didn't. You didn't invite Bruno on stage?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't know Bruno was there. We don't have a text phone Number.

[Jacob]

Why don't you text him?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean now. Yeah, we're gonna fix this.

[Jacob]

We'll fix that today. Okay, so Bruno. Okay, so, so big picture, right? Let's say cuz I know you've. You. You've auditioned for Big Brother Brazil a few times.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And they didn't have you.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

That's so crazy.

[Jacob]

Fools. Like, that's so crazy.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I've been waiting.

[Jacob]

Yeah, fools. I mean, but like, what about Big Brother? Do you like that competition show? It seems, because, you know, so I have a friend who did the show and apparently Tiffany, who was on Traitors and to get to do the show leading up to, like, to condition you to get into the house, you have to spend 10 days in a hotel with no human contact. You don't get anything. No, but you don't have a tv, you don't have anything. You're just in a room with and you get one book for 10. That would drive me crazy. I cannot do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What book would you choose?

[Jacob]

I don't know what book I would choose.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Bruno brought me a book today.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah, it's my favorite everyday book.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can we read one?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yes, yes.

[Jacob]

Wait, wait. Can I, can I, can you? Like, why, why, why? Why do you want to be on Big Brother so bad? Like why, why is that? Why does that show sound good to you?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Well, first, I'm very proud to be Brazilian and I left Brazil for like so many years now and I am still very connected to my country and I would love to work more in Brazil and to. And I think Big Brother is one of the biggest shows.

[Jacob]

Is it?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yes, it is. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was the Madonna concert last time you were back?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Is what.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When was the last time you were back in Brazil?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I was there for Carnival, February.

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you a celebrity? You must be a celebrity in Brazil, of course.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Well, I wouldn't say that. I mean, people watch Drag Race everywhere in the world, so I mean, if

[Bob the Drag Queen]

they know me, they know you. I was on Drag Race 10 years ago. So do you get like, do you get like people stopping you on the street and stuff when you go back to Brazil?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Sometimes. Depends what I am. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How do you, how do you feel about that? How do you like that?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I got used to it now.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

You know, I don't see myself this way, first of all. And when I go to Brazil, I just want to have fun. I'm Brazilian, so, like, this is my thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you want to have fun everywhere.

[Jacob]

Well, also, but the energy in Brazil is just so dope. Like how like you Just add up a street party. People just come up to you and make out with. Make out. Like, have you been to any street parties in Brazil?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Jacob]

I did a few when I was there, and it's just like, I can't. I've never experienced that anywhere else in the world. You just. At the street party, you're having a drink, someone walks up the street, make eye contact, and they come up to you and just start making out with you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why would I ask a question and tell me if this is offensive or not, but, like, why are Brazilians so sexy? Everyone's. Everyone says this, right? Like, Brazilians are so attractive. Like, not just physically, but, like, they're just, like, sexy.

[Jacob]

Energy.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I would say it's the energy. Yeah, it's. I don't know. I agree with you. I think. I think Brazilians are very sexy.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like. Like, it's kind of crazy. I. I was in Brazil. I don't even like the beach, but I was like, I'm gonna go to the beach, because these are the hottest people I've ever seen in my life. The way they're walking around, the way they're talking, the way they're dressing, just everything. They're just like, the sexiest people. Like, it's crazy.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

It must be the water.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who's the most famous Brazilian? What's the lady's name?

[Jacob]

No, Rosa.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sorry, no. What's her. What's her name? She was at the Madonna concert. She came out.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Pablo Vitar, Anita.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anita. She's, like, massive, right?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

She's huge. She's the biggest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She came out. It was. When. When she came out, it was in. Because I didn't know who Anita was. I had never. I had never heard of Anita. But, baby, they don't around about Anita.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

No, Anita is the queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she's like the Madonna of Brazil.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, pretty much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Probably a little younger.

[Jacob]

She's way younger. Way younger than Madonna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In her 40s, maybe.

[Jacob]

No need.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Is like, in her 20s.

[Jacob]

Yeah, she's young.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I don't think she's studied it.

[Jacob]

Yeah, she's young. Young girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Pablo Vitar, another one. So sexy.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, She's Amazing.

[Jacob]

Bruno, you know, a lot of Dragons girls are jealous of you. Really? Because Anita's 32. She's 32. Okay. Because, Bruno, you got to sit at the judges table, which is something that girls have never done. You got to judge the girls on Drag Race, and a queen besides Rapal has never been there. So girls are like, damn, Bruno, is that true?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One queen's been there.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Candice Kane.

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Candace Kane did judge on Drag Race years ago. I want to say it was Bianca season.

[Jacob]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that's the only queen I know of who's ever been on the judges

[Jacob]

panel, so you're better than all of us, Bruno. Just know that.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, I just feel lucky to have the chance to do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul, like, loves you.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, I love RuPaul back.

[Jacob]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, do you go to her. Her super secret parties?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

No. Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, not really, no. You're not allowed to say, did you get in trouble?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

No, I. I don't. Do not go to any secret parties.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are there secret parties? Oh, you go to the public parties. I mean, have you ever been her house?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

No.

[Jacob]

So allegedly. This is all. Allegedly, RuPaul has these, like, iconic, like, games because, you know, he likes to play games. That RuPaul had these, like, big game nights at his home. And he is very secret, like, invite only. No one talks about it. No one takes pictures. No one says it's like. It's like Fight Club. No one talks about it. No one says they go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So maybe Bruno's not allowed to say,

[Jacob]

but Bruno actually went, maybe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we don't want to put you on the spot. We don't want to get you in RuPaul's back races. I'm already there. RuPaul likes. I think.

[Jacob]

No, he likes you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul likes you.

[Jacob]

You just did something on the show, like, last season, two seasons ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah. On All Stars. 10.

[Jacob]

9.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

9.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jesus Christ.

[Jacob]

So. Yeah. So. So, Bruno, you on season 10 was your first season of Drag Race, right?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Season 10, American season, I think I would say 11. Season 11. And All Stars. Four also.

[Jacob]

That's. Yeah, that's what it was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I was asking, how did you get on? Like, how did you end up on RuPaul's Drag Race?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

A friend of mine, he connected me to the show, to the production of the show. He's very close with Michelle Visage. And then he kept telling. He actually was working with me on Madonna Store. Oh, is it Jimmy Larita?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, the. I thought it was the hairdresser.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Well, the hairdresser he connected me to Madonna's tour because I was dating him. And his name is Andy Lacombe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Andy the hairdresser. He's like a famous character. He owns a salon here in. In Weho.

[Jacob]

Like Lacombe. Like the famous.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Like Lacombe and the Lacombe. Yeah, he.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's a pretty famous hairdresser.

[Jacob]

But I say like Lacombe product. Sounds like he has products and everything, right? Yeah, yeah, I think.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

No, no, I'm thinking Lancome.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because you did. Because you did hospitality.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

No, yeah, I did had dressing room. I was doing her dressing room.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Oh my God. You have done everything.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Well, I. I did work in production before in Brazil.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Uh huh.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

So when it came to the chance to work with Madonna, what I did not expect at all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you met her a couple times?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Oh, yeah. Many times.

[Jacob]

I think everyone here has met Madonna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's true. Well, you first. What year did you meet her?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

What year? 2016.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And when did you meet her?

[Jacob]

I met her 2000, I think. 16.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, they all.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Oh, that's. That's me and Madonna.

[Jacob]

Oh, work. Bruno. Bruno the banana.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Your pants. The unapologetic bitch on stage. And I. Mr. Dan.

[Jacob]

Wow, Bruno, you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have done so much stuff in your career.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Hey, man. And I'm. I'm waiting for more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you dating right now?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Dating?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Jacob]

Why?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

So single?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But is that by design? It's gotta be.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I'm open now for a relationship. But you were focused on not desperate, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think you have. You can be choosy.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah, but I do want a relationship. I think it's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you look for in a man?

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Self, awareness. Confidence.

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

A little obsession for me.

[Jacob]

Bruno. Okay, Bruno, you want your man to be obsessed with you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In what way? In a light way.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Like, nobody says that he want to kill me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're gonna have you interview me and Monet. Ask us questions you want in a partner, we're gonna answer. Then you're gonna have to pick between us based on our answers.

[Jacob]

Okay. Which sibling would be better? Would be a better partner for you.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Okay. So, Monet, what do you need to see in a man?

[Jacob]

I need to see confidence. I need to see someone who has good hygiene. I need to see someone who goes to the gym. Cause I like to go to the gym together. I need to see someone who has the potential to be on the Pit Stop on Drag Race. Like, I feel like to me, that would be a good fit for me. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob, I love someone who Laughs I love a good smile. I love someone who lights up every room they walk into. I love someone who's got their own thing going on. Like, it's not. It doesn't have to be about me. And honestly, what I really want to do is be able to support my man and what he's doing. So if you got something going on, I want to know, can I go to your shows? Can I tell my friends about your TV shows you're working on? You know, do I know a producer at Brazilian Big Brother?

[Jacob]

You get to ask us three questions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hi.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Well, Another one?

[Jacob]

Yeah. Another one? Yeah. All right.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

What turns you on sexually?

[Jacob]

Me first. Sexually. I think I definitely like someone with height or height as Latoya Jackson. I like some.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all go watch Latoya Jackson vs.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Nene leaks on the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You will not regret it.

[Jacob]

I like height sexually. You know, I tend to find myself in a more submissive role. Even though I do identify as a versatile character. I find myself being more submissive and in the passivo role, which I gladly take. But I like someone who likes to flip it around. If you're having sex with this person forever, you gotta change it up and engage and be different sometimes, you know, I also like someone who is sensual but also a little rough sometimes. And someone who's a good kisser. A bad kisser will ruin the entire thing. If you're a bad kisser, I don't want to be with you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like two ends of the spectrum. I like really nice guys. Like, nice, passive guys, but I also love, like, a bitch. Like, if you're kind of a bitch and no one likes you. And I think you've seen this with my partners in the past. They're either really nice and everyone likes them, or they're, like, kind of a bitch. And, like, no one likes them. And I am attracted to those things.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do not know why. Well, I know I like nice guys. I don't know why I like. But I. Most guys I date for long term tend to be really, really nice. Physically speaking. I like. Well, I like short.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

You like short.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I also like tall guys, too. I like. I like tall guys every party you're with right now. But, you know, I've hooked up. But, you know, you've seen the tall guys that I've hooked up with and. And had relations with. I. I am not versatile. I'm not versatile at all. I. I'm a top. And I don't have. I don't have. I don't have the capacity for what? What it. The. What it takes to be a good

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

bottom or you haven't found the right person yet?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe I haven't found the right person. I'm willing to try again.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

We love some openness, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's been. It's been a minute. It's been a minute since I've been in these bottom streets. Last time I. Last time I tried was the night we did that. Well, not. We did that. When I did that strange loop viewing on Broadway.

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[Jacob]

In New York City.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This guy was like 6 foot 8.

[Jacob]

Oh, that's so. Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was 6 foot 8. But it wasn't. It wasn't working.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

What was the problem?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I don't think I have the physical capacity to accommodate what he was bringing to the table.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I see.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I did. I did give it. I gave it an earnest effort.

[Jacob]

Do you know what I found out recently? And I learned this. I mean, just TikTok medical school, but apparently, you know, because we. We all obviously have anuses and butts, but we all slightly vary. Like, some of us curve in different ways. And you can have a partner that has an anatomy that just does not work with your. With how you're built, it's not often that it'll happen. Like, for. Like, generally, it all works together. Like a penis and a hole, it works, but some people just have a slightly downturn. Some guys. Dicks curve in a way that it just. It. It physically cannot work with your anatomy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This guy was straight as an arrow.

[Jacob]

Maybe you're a little curved in there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe I'm a little curved.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So based on those questions.

[Jacob]

Wait, there's one more question. Wow.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Let's go emotional now. What is the biggest healing you've done in your life? Like, the biggest emotional challenge that you had to get over. And how did you do that?

[Jacob]

Oh, wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll go first on this one. You know, my mother passed away on Mother's Day last year, and then I had to immediately go into filming the Traitors. It was really emotional, and I processed it by talking about my feelings. I talked about it with my friends. I communicated with my friends whose moms had also passed away in their 30s or 20s. And I talked about it on stage a lot. I use humor. I just remembered my mom a lot. I think that was probably my biggest healing I've ever had to do in my life. And I'm still working on the healing process for sure, but that was definitely my biggest healing that I've done. 100%.

[Jacob]

I think the biggest healing I have done was I was a contestant on a show, and I made it all the way to the end, and I did a killer lip sync, and I still didn't get the crown. And I think after that, I felt defeated, I felt dejected, I felt betrayed, I felt scandalized. I think after that, and talking to my friends and confiding in my friends about my feelings and working through that, I was able to realize, you know what? I am not a final lip sync. I am more than that. I am a fierce queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I may not be a singer,

[Jacob]

I may not be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I may not be a damn singstress,

[Jacob]

but I'm a fierce queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm a fierce queen.

[Jacob]

So I healed and grew from that, and I think that helped me on stage. It helped me to pivot. Not pivot my career, but try new avenues in my career that have all been shining and blooming. And I'm very happy with where I am now.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And now we must make a choice.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Oh, God, do I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I take both?

[Jacob]

No. But he's polyamorous. I'm not.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Listen, I have a big heart.

[Jacob]

Bruno, you gotta choose one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll give you.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Give me a minute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, we'll do more podcasting because a lot will be revealed. So Bruno came in and gave me this book. It's called the Daily Book of Positive Quotations by Linda Picone. What do you love about this book so much?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Well, it helps with my everyday reflections, and I think it really helps me to ground myself. So I try to every day, usually in the morning, to just open a page and think about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's today's date?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

And I actually got to post sometimes on my social media. And today is December 15th.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You say you're posting on social. You post. You're posting your social media.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Today it is sweet, simple things. I am beginning to learn that it is the sweet, simple things of life which are the real ones, after all. By Laura Ingalls Wilder. The Barefoot Contessa.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that is.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Are you December 15th? Isn't that little house in the.

[Jacob]

Oh. Oh. I thought it was the Contesta as well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's her name? In a garden. In a garden is the Barefoot Contessa.

[Jacob]

Why did I think it was wild, too? Who's the wallet?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because of something that Nick said? Because. Because. I know. Oh. Anyway, so a baby's giggle, the warmth of a flannel. Of flannel sheets, a favorite meal. The simple things can bring us much happiness. We enjoy these simple things for what they are, but also for what they evoke. People are people. We are. We have love, times of peace and contentment. The promise of the promise the future holds. If I make a list of things that make me happy and few of the items will be extravagant.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I love that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is nice. Can you make a list of things you make? Can you name a few things that make you happy real quick?

[Jacob]

That made me happy.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

My cat, my drag, my home, my friends and family.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How about you, Bruno? What do you think that make you happy?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Having health, being at peace. When I'm at home, at home and at peace, I love it. I'm like, oh my God, it's so good to be here. And you know, my family makes me happy when I think about them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Mana, your thing was kind of materialistic. I literally said friends and family, my drag, my home. I said, my friends, my family, my drag, my home. Anyway, I'm just saying it's just because it said a few of the items will be extravagant.

[Jacob]

I know something that good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were like my multi million dollar home.

[Jacob]

I know something that pisses me off right now and it's you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What money?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

That's not the list.

[Jacob]

Well, I'm taking my other list and you regret the top of it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The thing that made me happy is my partners, my best friend. Having a wonderful guest like this on our podcast. Sometimes driving to work and listening to npr, I love the time. I do love these things. Driving to work, listening to NPR makes me very, very happy. Getting to sleep. Getting to sleep is great. Waking up, not so much, but getting to sleep. And I'll tell you more about this after this break. Y', all, if you do not want to see this break, you know, you don't have to live like this. You can go over to the Sibling Rivalry Patreon right now. Go to Patreon, type in Sibling Rivalry podcast and you'll never have to hear me say this. You'll never have to hear another ad again. All right, here comes some ads.

[Jacob]

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[Jacob]

Okay, Bruno, can you please wake this conversation up? Because there is a lot of people have been talking about this, and I want. And you. You probably the only person who can really tell us the real tea. Is Bryce gay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Bryce could answer too.

[Jacob]

True. Bryce is not. He's straight.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Bryce is straight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought Bryce was. I think Bryce was joking one day and he was like, yeah, I'm gay or something.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

No, I love Bryce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bryce is lovely.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

It's trick. And he just got married.

[Jacob]

Did he really? Yes. Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Congratulations, Bryce. If you're watching, congratulations, Bryce.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

We love Bryce.

[Jacob]

I love Bryce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bryce is.

[Jacob]

Bryce is one of the. I mean, he's not on Drag Race anymore.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is he done?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, he. No, he is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The eraser is crazy.

[Jacob]

I think I haven't seen him in so long.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is there. Can I ask a question? So based on, like, FCC regulations, you guys have to, like, cover your penises when you're in the pit crew underwear. You can't just. You can't just have cloth to meet, right? Well, because you have to, like, put something between your penis and the thing. Am I making that up?

[Jacob]

I have no idea.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Well, we cannot show the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The shaft.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah. The line. Yeah. Whatever it is you have, you need to be smooth. Otherwise the. The channel could cut and you could not be on the show.

[Jacob]

So.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So they have to cover. They have to put, like a panty liner or something.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

You just need to make sure it's smooth.

[Jacob]

Like, Like. Like a cup. They'll have to put those little, like the cup on cups on it. Okay. And another question that people probably that I didn't ask when you did Monet talks. Is there, like. Is there. Because, you know, you work at a job for a long time, there's, like, seniority. Right. So is there, like a ranking of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Bryce is the. Bryce is the oldest, is the longest

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

lasting, or right now he is. Yes.

[Jacob]

Well, in terms of who they call to the show, like, how does that work? Is Bryce always invited, and if he's not, it goes. Or is it like they kind of pick and choose? Oh, this episode, we want xyz. Or is it who's available? Like, how does that work?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I would assume so that he is always called to do the show.

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

But sometimes I do an episode by myself, or he can do an episode by himself, so. Or somebody else.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, you've become, like, the fan favorite pit crewman. Like, you are, like, if you. It Would be so weird to see a season of Drag Race without your, like, big, lovely smile there.

[Jacob]

I would agree.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I take that. And all the love that is coming. Yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There was a photo of me and Bruno on this cruise.

[Jacob]

What happened? Let me see.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's just us, like, side by side. I think Bruno posted it and the comments I was getting were like, how giant is bathroom?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

It is?

[Jacob]

Why were you, like, towering?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I'm a little taller than Bruno and I'm not. I'm not tiny. Right. And Bruno is also not tiny. So people kept being like, jesus Christ, how giant is Bob the Drag Queen? But we're similar. We're very similar in size.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

You were taller?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not much. How tall are you?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Six. Three.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm six two.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Hey, don't do that now after so many years. Six, three.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, okay.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Maybe two. Almost three.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm six five.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

All right, so there we go.

[Jacob]

Okay. I've always said this, and I don't know. I mean, you know, World of Wonder does what they do. What do what they do they should do. Even if it's just it only exists on Wild Presents. Plus a pit crew, like, competition show. Like, people auditioning or trying to become pit crew members. I think as a fan of Drag Race, I would watch this, like, spin off show of, like, they do have a show. No, no, no. But like a show like competing. A competition. Like competing to get to a reality show.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Pete Crew race.

[Jacob]

Yeah, Something like. I feel like I'm like, why don't, like, I feel like it's a no brainer. It was. They could. They could do it right in the basement over there.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Wow.

[Jacob]

It'll be fierce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, and you could be the host of it.

[Jacob]

Literally.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, I can. I'm ready.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? Okay. What is it? Okay, what is the audition like? What was it? Do you just show up? Do you send the headshots? Is there an audition? Or do you just send, like, a headshot and a resume? How do you get. If I'm watching this right now, I want to be on the pit crew. I want to be the next Bruno. I want to be the next Bryce. How do I become a pit crew member?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I think they reach out to people in different ways, you know?

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

So sometimes in person, sometimes on social media. So it can change from one person to another.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you have to do a screen test or anything?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I did not. As I said, a friend of mine connected me to the production of the show. They called me and they invited me to do a gig that was a music Video for Elton John for the Bitch is Back.

[Jacob]

Oh, work.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

There was a music video that they had drag queens. And then at that moment, Bryce and Jason, they were still on the show. So I met them, and I met some queens. And I knew that was the real test. That was a casting for me, you know, because they were, like, looking at me and taking pictures. And I'm like, okay, I didn't know anyone before that and then. And I knew that that would be the connecting point to get to the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

And after that gig, that's when they call me and say. They said, we might use you for one episode or two. I'm like, okay, I'll do that. And then I sign a contract. And they're like, you know what? Maybe you sign a contract, because if we want to use you for more than three, then you need to have a contract. I'm like, okay, that's a good sign.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

And here I am. And here you are. Seven, eight years later.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is like, in your mind? Because, you know, my career isn't really, like, attached to being, like, conventionally attractive for me. My career is really attached to being humorous and being. And being relatable. Is there a party that's like. Like. Like, when do you stop being, like, the sexy person on camera? Or is there you, like, like, what's next? Or how does that work for you?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Well, I think that's why I've been trying to do new things. Like, I have a new show now where I get to show a little bit of my personality and, like, podcasts like this and, you know, being on Drag Race, people don't get to see all the sides of Bruno. Yeah. And then. And it's okay. That's what the job is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, also, luckily, daddies are in, so if you, you know, if you go a little gray, I think. I don't think anyone will begrudge you.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, I'll be that. Showing my body forever, as long as they want me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, you're kind of daddy right now. I mean, but like, like, baby daddy. No, not baby. Like a young daddy. Like, you're not.

[Jacob]

Would you identify as a daddy? I would not give her a daddy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You must have been called daddy.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Oh, yeah.

[Jacob]

Well, yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause you have daddy vibes. But like a sweet daddy. Like a.

[Jacob]

A.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, not a sugar daddy, but like a.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Like a daddy with a heart. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like. Like, I think about, like, there's. I think there's different kind of daddies.

[Jacob]

Like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like Johnny McGovern is. Is like quintessential like, when you think of a daddy, you would envision Johnny McGovern.

[Jacob]

He's such a tall man. I didn't realize he's like, six, five. I saw. I saw Johnny McGovern. He hosts the show. What's the. What's the name of the show? Hey, Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hey, Queen.

[Jacob]

He For a while and. And I seen him do the show online. I saw. I've watched interviews when he did Bob when he had the show, whatever. And I was like, oh, whatever. When I saw him in person. He is a mammoth of a man. He's like six foot five.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Six, five.

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I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

He's hiring everyone. Johnny McGovern is a massive dude and

[Bob the Drag Queen]

he has, like, such a deep voice. So the daddy spectrum is pretty wide. And I think you're more on, like, the soft daddy side.

[Jacob]

What's a wolf, then?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A wolf is like a muscly guy with gray hair, like black hands. Because wolves are gray.

[Jacob]

No one's on the always great babe,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

but this is the idea of what it is when you think of a wolf. You know what I'm talking about?

[Jacob]

No, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wolves can be white, wolves can be brown. But a wolf is like a hairy, muscly guy. And I think if you have a gray, you're like a husky.

[Jacob]

I think of Twilight and there was like, brown wolves. I do not associate wolves of being like, gray. Like animals. Is that a thing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're definitely hair. Wolves are hairy. Like, like, what's his name would not be a wolf in the real world. The guy who was the wolf. Taylor.

[Jacob]

Taylor Lautner.

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Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's not a wolf. He's a twunk.

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

And I have a question. So when you say daddies or twinks or wolves, it doesn't necessarily imply what they do sexually in bed?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

It's just how they look like, I

[Jacob]

think yes and no. Like, I think if you think of a twink, generally, I think you're thinking of someone who is submissive and is a bother.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But a twink is exclusively about how they look. You can be an evil twink, you can be a demon twink, but I think twink is twink. Bear and daddy are specifically connected to how they look.

[Jacob]

And also with that look, you're associating with them with being a specific role in the bed, in my opinion. Like, when I think of twinks, of course I know there are twinks out there. All you twink toppers out there, I know y' all out there who are aggressive. I know they exist. But when I think of a Twinkle. I think of someone who looks a certain way and is a bottom and is and is passive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But Bear doesn't say what you do. Bear, just your body.

[Jacob]

I was talking about Twing specifically. I think Twink is the only one that I get that association. To me, I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like twinks can be tops. I don't think Twink is necessarily. I mean, I think. I think most twins are tops, but not all tops are twins. It's really about more like how you look. Are you hairless? Are you skinny? You can't be too tall. Although you can be a tarantula.

[Jacob]

Twinkle. Yeah. Nick Smith used to be a. I think a little younger. Nick Smith was a tarantula. Twink.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, for sure. He's our friend.

[Jacob]

He's like six' four and he's very skinny and he's very hairless.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, very, very.

[Jacob]

Okay, Bruno, I know you've been thinking about the Dating Game and I just want to remind you, you have to pick one of us by it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you can just by the end of the episode. But there's no rush right now. There's no rush right now. Just keep these things in mind.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I'm a Libra.

[Jacob]

It's very hard to decide the scale. The Libra is the scales.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you have an ultimate diva?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, I do. I do love Madonna.

[Jacob]

Huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Brazilians. When I tell you Brazilians don't around about Madonna. When we got to the airport, the airport was Madonna themed. Like they were playing all Madonna music. I mean, at the airport it was all Madonna music. There were Madonna banners in the airport, big Madonna posters, and like life size Madonna cardboard cutouts. Like the whole town was Madonna. Why do Brazilians love Madonna so much?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, it's not only Brazilians, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I mean world. I mean, when we. Italy, they love Madonna. In Mexico, they love Madonna. I mean, everywhere we went, they love Madonna. But Brazil, nowhere turned the airport. The airport was only. It was Madonna Rama. It was all Madonna music. From the moment we got on the plane to the moment we got back on the plane, it was all Madonna.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

The passion we have is. Was amazing. I mean, whatever we decide to love, really love. Yeah. Well, to me, she has a very. A huge impact on my life. You know what I mean? Like, you're working with her and getting to see it and you can't help but like think about what. What can you take with you for life? And she's very inspiring and she works very hard and crazy hard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never met someone who works Harder than Madonna ever.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

So.

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Yeah.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

So it was very inspiring to me. And the chance I had to be so close. And I think it's amazing everything that she represents and she stands for.

[Jacob]

Yeah. I want to. Sorry, go back a little bit. So I know we have the gay subcultures. We have like bear, twink, beer bear, twink, all these things in the States. Is there equivalent in Brazil? Like, do they have gay subcultures in Brazil?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How do you say bare in Portuguese?

[Jacob]

Oh, it's the same one, just different.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And they call them. They do have otters. I. The skinny hairy guys.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, I don't know how to say that right now, but they have all of it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And they. And they just translate it all to Portuguese kind of.

[Jacob]

Yeah. What's twink?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

They have. I don't know.

[Jacob]

Wow.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

In Portuguese are bears for sure. I wouldn't. I wouldn't know to say all of them. Shame. It's okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's okay. We're not judging you.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I. I haven't been so present. What we have is in Portuguese.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But wait. Okay. Can you. Can you say this for. Can you play it? Jacob? Can you. Oh, no, don't play it. I want. Can you say that for us?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

That's.

[Jacob]

That's Spanish.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

That. It doesn't sound like it could. The Portuguese could also be Portuguese from Portugal.

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

And this one shows the Portugal's flag.

[Jacob]

Got it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Jacob]

I will say one thing that I noticed when I went to Brazil. Like, in most other countries, like, you go that there's another language. Like, you meet people, they'll speak English a little bit or they try whatever. In Portuguese, people are only speaking Portuguese. You would talk to someone and they will look at you like, no, bitch, I am saying this entire sentence in Portuguese. You need to learn the language, which I was like, fierce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know if I've had experience.

[Jacob]

That was my experience.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's why that was in Italy and in France. Italians, they will look.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

They.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They are like, mad at you for not speaking Italian. Like, they are, like, angry at you. They're like, they. And they communicate with you in Italian and you're like, I don't know. And they're like, well, learn, basically. And France too.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah, I experienced that in France.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. The French are. They don't around about you by you not speaking French. They don't care. They. And they're good. They're just going to talk to.

[Jacob]

I think the French accent is so hot. I love a French accent. Oh, a French accent is so hot to me. Do you like. Do you like French accents?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you like French accents?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, yeah, I dated a French guy before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, did you? I think it's hot here in the States.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

I'm like, talk to me in French, open my mouth, spitting it, like, obsessed with a French accent.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you find that because you're like, a sex symbol, do people treat you in a sexual way that feels uninviting sometime?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, are people, like, grabbing on your body and like, oh, God, I could

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

imagine there are different things. It could be that they feel like they can relate to me for some reason, for their own minds, because I'm very approachable. So I. I don't see this thing of, like, I'm very accessible and. Or it could be because they just think of me and this sexual thing and they should touch it and have it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How are your. Your DMs are got to be crazy.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Not enough. It depends what we're looking for, right? Like, but I do. I do receive some interesting videos and pictures and.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you. Are you, like. Are you welcoming? Are you like, Jesus Christ?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Sometimes it's like, wow, you really all the way. Huh? Sometimes I'm like, that's beautiful. And sometimes I wonder if, if I answer, they're gonna be like, oh, you didn't you like that? Huh? Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you answer some of them.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sometimes I'm like, has it ever come to fruition? Has it ever led to a little more?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Have I ever used Instagram to have a hookup? Yes, I have.

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you, Monet?

[Jacob]

Yeah, of course.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I have too.

[Jacob]

I was like, of course I have.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah. Why not? Hey, do you want to have a coffee? Hey, I'm here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, gays can turn anything into a hookup app. We famously have a friend who use Uber Eats to hook up app. You know who we're talking about?

[Jacob]

I do, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He doesn't. He just. He will just turn. He will turn. What he does, he opens the door, and then when the guy leaves, he just says, is there anything else I can help you? They go, anything else? He goes, no. Is there anything I can help you with?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Or it's like, what are you eating first?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Literally. What?

[Jacob]

Okay, what's the hey, do you. Do you hate using Grindr?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

It's a love hate relationship.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because it's some stuff too, right?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Oh, a lot of people, they think, I am not I'm fake profile.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

So sometimes the amount of proofs you

[Jacob]

need to give, it's so annoying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are they like, yeah, this is Bruno. Sure.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah. No, no, that's terrible. To use somebody else pictures. Oh, my God.

[Jacob]

It's like, that happens. Well, it's also crazy when they ask you to jump up the wall to hoops. Like, okay, well, if it's you, send me a picture of you holding up your two fingers. I'm like, but I'm not doing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not.

[Jacob]

I'm like, half of me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're hot.

[Jacob]

And I want someone like, I'm not justifying this behavior by rewarding you with your request.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My new thing now is when they ask me for proof, I go, okay, of course I can prove it to you. Just send me your Instagram, and then I'll show you through there. And they send me an Instagram, and then I block them. I'm like, do you believe it's me now? And then they go, you block me? Then I block them on a Grinder.

[Jacob]

Oh, you block them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I blocked them on Instagram. And then I block. And then I block. And then they go, you blocked me. Then I go. And then I. Then I go, Exactly.

[Jacob]

Then I block them on Grinder two. That's good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

See, that's not nice, though.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

But you won't get to have it, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know, but there. But I'm annoyed by them at this point. Like, now I'm annoyed because, again, I've had to show you three forms of id. I've had to use the captcha. I've had to prove that I'm a human. I've had to pick which parts have the bicycle in them and which ones are traffic lights. And at this point, it's a wrap. I don't want to have sex with you anymore. I'm just gonna move on to someone who's. Who maybe as hot. Less hot. Less compatible. Just because I don't want to go through the loops. If someone wants to date you, what is the best way to shoot your shot with Bruno? If someone's like, I want, like, what if someone's seen you? Like, I actually think Bruno might be my soulmate beyond just, like, his beauty. But I think that Bruno might with her. Like, I read this. I read that book. I'm from the same town in Brazil. I love Madonna. How can someone shoot their shot with Bruno? Can you tell the camera right there?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I would just. No, try it. I love a guy with attitude. I love. I love when somebody actually have the audacity to say, I want you. I'm into you now. You have to feel it later on, because what is this about, right? Like, is it the idea you have of me, you know, is this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can we both hit on you real quick and see which one you like more?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Ken?

[Jacob]

No. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How many tests is Bruno gonna do? Well, this is part of this. Part of this is leading up to the thing. Okay, so you'll approach Bruno, and then I'll. Do you want me to go first?

[Jacob]

You go first. I don't even know, like, what's the scenario, Jacob?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's our scenario? Where are we at? We're standing in line at the movies. So the movie's about to start. We're both trying to get popcorn from the theater. Okay. Are you Bruno?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Oh, I am Bruno.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. My name is Caldwell. Nice to meet you.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Nice to meet you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're from Brazil, right? Oh, my God, your hands are so strong.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Oh, Jesus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And they're really soft. I thought you'd have, like. I don't know, like, like, like, like. Because you. Maybe you lift weights, right?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I thought you'd have, like. But they're so soft and really, really strong. Have you seen Wicked yet, or is this your first time seeing it?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

It's my first time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you like the first one, too?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

It was great, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I identify with so much from this movie, I have to say, by the way, you have really beautiful eyes.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I appreciate that. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Really, really beautiful.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Who are you here with?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, just a couple of friends. They're already in there. I'm picking popcorn.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Are you single?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, Absolutely.

[Jacob]

No. He has two boyfriends.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm single. He doesn't know what's going on with me. What are you doing after this, by the way?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I don't know. I have no plans.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's this little bar right down the street. They have amazing drinks, like, really good drinks, but it's not gonna, like, knock you off your ass, but just enough to, like, keep, you know, the fun going. Do you think maybe we could go there after this?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Sure.

[Jacob]

He's sober, by the way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's. Can I get your number?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, thank you. 5 5, 5, 5, 5, 5,. 5, 5, 5.

[Jacob]

All right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Enjoy the movie.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How do you know about the drinks?

[Jacob]

You're sober.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Enjoy the movie. Y.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Enjoy the movie. You too, girl.

[Jacob]

That was Bruno. He's sober, you're sober.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Stop trying to block the. Is wrong with you? All right, now you. Now you talk. Now you're pro.

[Jacob]

So now we are. Our scenario is we are at a party, we're at a festival, and. And Diplo is DJing, and we're in the same area, and we're dancing.

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Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Jacob]

Hey, are you Bruno, right?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I am.

[Jacob]

Oh, my God. Is this your first time here at acl?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

It is my first time.

[Jacob]

It's. Diplo is killing it. This music is. It's such a vibe.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I love it. So good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who loves.

[Jacob]

Do you like?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I love good kisses.

[Jacob]

Oh, I like good kisses, too. Especially, like kissing at a festival and just, like, chilling, like when. When the vibe is good and the music is good. Feels so good.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Are you single?

[Jacob]

I am very single. What about you? Yeah, maybe we should. Maybe we should even kiss right now just to see if the vibe is even right.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, do you think you have a good kiss, though?

[Jacob]

Oh, yeah. I have a great kiss. Honey, look at these lips. Honey,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

just to be clear, she's wearing Invisalign, so it's gonna be. It's gonna. They're full of blood. They're literally full of blood. And she's engaged.

[Jacob]

But anyway, go ahead.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Who are you here with?

[Jacob]

I'm here with my friends. We come here every year, and we saw. Diploma's gonna be here, and I was like, we definitely have to go see Diplo. And also Madonna's here, too. And I love Madonna.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, that's why. Yeah, that. Yeah, I got to see that.

[Jacob]

Yeah, me too. So maybe we should go see Madonna together in. In the next tent.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Madonna's in the next tent?

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, she's just in there hanging out.

[Jacob]

She's doing her special day in a tip. Yes.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Hey, we can do that.

[Jacob]

Okay, That'll be great. Let me get your number just in case we get, like, separated. Look at your number so we can, like, text. Cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And scene. All right. How did those. How did you like those approaches?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, they're both very authentic. I liked it. Both, actually, because it doesn't matter where you are, Right? It's just like, okay, hey, you want to let me know that you want it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Otherwise, I will say Monet has some lies in hers, as I don't know how authentic it was that Madonna's in the next doing.

[Jacob]

You've never been to a festival before, Artists. They all do. Like, as big as you are, as small as you are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have been to festivals. I've performed at festivals. I've.

[Jacob]

I've worked the ACL Festival. Acl. They do. Every artist performs on the really big

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

tents in a tent.

[Jacob]

Yeah, I mean, they're huge. Like. Like 50,000 people can probably fit in this thing. Maybe that's a little exaggeration.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At Austin City Limits. Yeah, they're intense.

[Jacob]

Some of Them are. Some of them are intense.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Some of them are.

[Jacob]

He said all a second ago anyway,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

so I'm just noticing that you said all. Now you're saying some.

[Jacob]

I'm just noticing the things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's just something to keep in mind when you are making your decision. When you're making your decision.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

It's the hardest decision of my life.

[Jacob]

Okay. Oh, so are you. Do you watch Traders, Bruno? Do you? The show Traders?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I haven't seen the whole thing. I watched some clips, to be honest.

[Jacob]

Well, I think they. So this show has franchise. Like, it's blown up so much. It started. I think it started out. The Dutch one was the first one. Then UK did it and now there's one in New Zealand, there's one in Australia, there's India, there's Ireland, Canada. Canada. I'm like, if. If they did a. Well, you haven't watched yet. If they did a. A Brazilian Traders, you should do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You would be so good on the. I cannot. Well, you might get murdered, though.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Why? Why is that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because on the Traders. Something that they do on the Traders is if you're like someone who would never be voted out, meaning no one thinks you're a bad guy, they will just. The Traders will murder you because. So the way the show works is there's three people or four people who are the killers and then the other like 18 people are all trying to find the killers, but. And then everyone votes who they think the killers are. So if you weren't the killer, people would just be the murders. The traitors would be like, Bruno's never going to get. Get voted out.

[Jacob]

You got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we'll just kill him. So you have to end up being like a little bit nasty. Do you get nasty?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Oh, yeah. I mean, what are we talking about?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, not nasty.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Like, no, no, no. I can be a little, like, a little. I try, actually. I avoid drama as much as possible.

[Jacob]

Same.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

So are you.

[Jacob]

Are you. Are you a morning person? Like, do you. Do you wake up happy, Bruno?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I, like, feel like.

[Jacob]

Or does it take you a while to get there?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I wake up happy. I don't like to wake up too early.

[Jacob]

What's early?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Unless I really have to.

[Jacob]

What's early?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

6am is early.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's very early, I think. Yes, I agree.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

So I think 9am is great.

[Jacob]

Okay. That's a little too late for me.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

And I like to stay in bed a little, you know, I don't like to praise his name, like, open my eyes and have to jump out of the bed and Have a workout class at 7am I don't like it, but it doesn't mean that you cannot have. You do it.

[Jacob]

Yeah, you do it.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah, Unless I have to.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

So when you're on tour and you have like, call times and all that, so you have to manage to be able to work out or to be able to eat or to, you know, so then gotcha for a job. I think it makes sense.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

But if I'm free, just chill.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I love my own time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I could really see you being on one of those shows like the Traders or like Big Brother. I think you'd fare better on Big Brother because. And I haven't watched a lot of Big Brother, but from what I understand, there are no bad guys. There are no designated bad guys. And it's just about how basically connections you make. Friend, the friendliness. It's kind of like Survivor. There's challenges, of course, but if you can be friendly with enough people, then no one will. Who would want to kick Bruno out of that? Who would vote Bruno out?

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who would put Bruno on the chopping block? Who would put Bruno up for whatever elimination? What they doing Survivor? Like, could you. Like, why would you do that?

[Jacob]

I mean, I don't know. But you know what these games are. Sometimes there are no rhyme or reason to these games. Sometimes because Bruno is everything he is. They're like, he has to go. He's too trustworthy. He's too kind. Like, you know, so they'll probably try to eliminate you.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Hey, I would try that. I want more tv. So, hey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I mean, you just have, like, you are one. You know what you kind of remind me of?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cynthia Lee Fontaine. Cynthia Lee Fontaine is like someone who is just so genuinely friendly. Like, she does not have a nasty bone in her body. Except for the.

[Jacob]

Except for Charlie X Charlie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So she can be from time to time, but, like, for the most part, like, she's just like a sweet, friendly person. And you can tell she's not being phoned like it is. Yeah, it's really you. You've done a few seasons with Cynthia, right?

[Jacob]

Just one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just one All Stars, I think.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you allowed time ago. Are you allowed to have favorite queens? You can't do that.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, RuPaul is my favorite queen.

[Jacob]

Fair. Same. But you can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you can't.

[Jacob]

This is my favorite queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is my favorite queen. But you can have. But you're not allowed to have favorites among the contestants.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I mean, it's not that I'm going to allow I think it's professional enough. I mean, I work with all of them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So who's one of your favorites you work with outside of RuPaul?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Oh, my God. You.

[Jacob]

You and Morphine look like besties on social media.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I love Morphine. I love Latina. Look at me. I can't remember Vanjie. I love Vanjie, too, of course. But I want to keep it on Valentina, okay? Oh, Valentina, Valentina, Valentina.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like to keep it on.

[Jacob]

Please.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

It was right when I started doing Drag Race, and then she was Latina and I had that thing.

[Jacob]

Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Being from Brazil, Valentina speaks to people in a way that is like, people fucking love her. And I, like, once you work with her, you get it. She's so.

[Jacob]

It's because she speaks in a very direct way, and she's so earnest in what she's asking for. Very earnest. It is not an act. It's not a gimmick. She is genuinely asking you to stop whatever you're doing. Stop your life, and come and tie my shoe, because I really need you to, mi amor. And she's like, because you have to tie my shoe. I need you to do right now.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I love the love part. You know, I was afraid of drag queens.

[Jacob]

Same, same.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Because drag queens, they can be so funny and so dry humor.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

So I was always like, oh, my God, what are the questions going to be about?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're always nice to you, though, for some reason.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Yes.

[Jacob]

Well, Bruno, we're at the end.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We have come. So we do. We do want you to make a decision. There's no forcing. But I want you, if you feel comfortable enough right now, based on the answers we gave, we gave you, based on our us approaching you at the

[Jacob]

festival and the movie theater, based on the amount of seasons of Drag Race we've done with you. You have to decide and choose someone.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Well, listen, I heard. I heard amazing things from you, but I know you're about to get married. It you are not single. And that's going to be my. My right here. You lose.

[Jacob]

He has two boyfriends.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will end it with Jacob right now.

[Jacob]

He has two boyfriends.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have a boyfriend, too? Not anymore.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

I'm getting my heart broken in the middle of this episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, Jacob,

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

do you see, guys, how you need. I need all of you. Just send the DMs and help me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you're single and you're not getting married, you're not dating the producer of the show, please feel free to contact Bruno if you see him on Grindr, but be respectful and don't assume he's lying about who he is. Wow, wow, wow.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

That's shocking. All the energy.

[Jacob]

I told you all the questions.

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Do you see how much time? Oh, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bruno. Where can they find you?

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Online?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where can they find you?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Please, please.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's your Instagram?

[Bruno C. Alcantara]

Really? Please follow me on Instagram. Bruno C. Alcantara. And I'm casting, as you know.

[Jacob]

Oh, those queens and Big Brother Brazil.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is your problem?

[Jacob]

You get brutal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right the fuck now.

[Jacob]

I'm waiting. I'll be fierce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you, Bruno, for. Bye, everyone.

[Jacob]

Bye, darling.