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I'm Hannah.
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Bob the Drag Queen
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Mona X Change
And I'm Mona X Change.
Bob the Drag Queen
And this is simply rivalry.
Mona X Change
On this week's episode, we teach Nick Smith how to do math.
Bob the Drag Queen
We make an airtight plan that is guaranteed to get Queen Latifah and Oscar.
Mona X Change
And we find out what made Bob say this.
Bob the Drag Queen
You start shooting up. And we find out what made Nick say this.
Nick
People are saying I'm something that I'm not. And we find out what made Monet say this.
Mona X Change
Why do gay men love walking in heels? Mick, I complimented on your shoes and they're very. Do you. Do you. You have very nice feet.
Nick
Thank you, Monet.
Mona X Change
Do you ever get your.
Nick
You're the only friend that compliments me, actually.
Mona X Change
Well, there are a lot of things to compliment about you.
Nick
Thank you.
Mona X Change
Do you ever get into foot stuff?
Nick
Remember, famously, I had.
Mona X Change
Oh, I was not even. I forgot that was a thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, then you got my toe.
Mona X Change
Was.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Mateo Lane
When you.
Bob the Drag Queen
When someone rolled your toe.
Nick
My toe was assayed.
Bob the Drag Queen
How was your. How was your pedicure that day?
Nick
I had. That's the crazy part. I hadn't. I was in between pedicures.
Mona X Change
Do you have. Do you have soft, like, naturally soft feet or naturally hard feet?
Nick
I have naturally soft everything. I'm not a worker.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you want to give your assessment?
Mona X Change
No, I don't want to find out. I don't want to touch anyone's feet.
Bob the Drag Queen
You have an aversion to feet.
Mona X Change
I don't have an average. I'm just not interested in touching. I don't have an aversion to or I'm not drawn to. I just don't want.
Bob the Drag Queen
You seem really drawn to Nick's feet. No. Because you dedicated the first chunk of this podcast to Nick's feet.
Mona X Change
Well, it's not the chunk. I think it's the first one. Too many.
Nick
Well, as a friend, she wanted to pay me a compliment.
Mona X Change
Yeah, you want to compliment something about Nick that you see today.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, actually, I think I'm done giving it compliments.
Nick
In fact, I was standing here in this outfit, and he said, are you gonna change for the episode? I did say that was his compliment.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's all. The drag queen. No, what I said was, get dressed. I thought you're gonna put on something nice.
Mona X Change
So you don't think what Nick's wearing right now is nice?
Nick
No work.
Mona X Change
Why is that not. It's not nice.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, there's a lot going on with it. There's a lot happening. I thought you steamed it. But then this part's all wrinkled.
Nick
Well, I tried, but your steamer doesn't work very well.
Mona X Change
Also, your pants are wrinkles.
Bob the Drag Queen
The steamer works perfectly fine.
Mona X Change
I go for his face. Your pants are wrinkled, too.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's a wrinkle.
Nick
Wrinkle.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I didn't steam mine, though. That's the difference. But the steam works perfectly fine. I think it's a. It's a user error thing.
Nick
Could be it doesn't work.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's see if Taylor uses stuff all
Nick
the time and it's wrinkled.
Mona X Change
How big are your feet?
Nick
An 11. Oh, okay.
Mona X Change
Men's 11. Well, yeah. You don't wear women's shoes. Nick can walk in heels, though. What is it? Mateo can. Nick can. Jacob can.
Nick
I can. Mateo can't.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't. I've never seen Mateo walking hills.
Mona X Change
Because he can't.
Nick
He's tried and can't.
Mona X Change
Every time Mateo comes here on my. He's always wearing heels.
Bob the Drag Queen
But they're big. They're too big for him. So I would say you can't walk.
Nick
Even if you got him his size, he can't walk.
Mona X Change
Why do gay men love walking in heels?
Nick
Makes us feel cunty. Got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, why do you like walking heels?
Mona X Change
Because I do it for work. You don't like walking?
Nick
Do you wear heels for work? I thought famously. You didn't.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's what the Internet saying.
Mona X Change
Okay, you're doing a bit well.
Nick
You showed up today in Half drag again?
Mona X Change
Yeah, it's not drag. This is. This is how I have my gender expression, Nicholas.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, so Nick's asking, why don't you. Why aren't you hearing drag on the podcast? Because this is what Nick is asking.
Mona X Change
Because I don't do. I only do drag when I want to.
Bob the Drag Queen
And when do you want. When do you want to do it?
Mona X Change
When I'm not around you.
Bob the Drag Queen
You've done drag ram me several times.
Mona X Change
I know. Cause I had to. Cause we're getting a good check.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you said when you. Okay, now I'm confused. You said when you want to, and then you said you had to.
Mona X Change
No, I'm not saying I had to. I said I want to.
Bob the Drag Queen
You said, I do it when I want to.
Mona X Change
Right.
Bob the Drag Queen
And then I expressed the last time we did it, I said, you've done drag, Rami. He said, well, I had to.
Mona X Change
I did not say I had to. Also, someone debunk the last episode.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can we run that back? Someone. They just said I had to.
Mona X Change
Someone debunked you last episode of where
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you said, don't try to move. Don't try to go back to that. You just said, because I had to.
Mona X Change
I did not say that. You can rewind the footage right now. You say there's no footage of me saying I have to.
Bob the Drag Queen
First thing you said was, when I want to. And then I said, I've done drag around you. And he said, because I have had to. Because I was getting good check.
Mona X Change
I did not say had.
Nick
I have a question.
Bob the Drag Queen
I cannot. Jay, by the way. Jay, I need you to loop it twice. Twice. I need you to put it two times.
Nick
Two times.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because of how wrong Mon.
Mona X Change
Take it back now, y'.
Nick
All, I have a question for both of you regarding drag
Mona X Change
the fix.
Nick
Would you say that you only do drag if you are being paid now?
Mona X Change
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I get paid and I still don't do drag. I did. I. I do drag when I want to do dragons. When I. So you've done drag without getting paid? I was getting. Yeah, I've done drag. Like, getting paid and I've been paid and not done. I got paid to be on the Traders. Like, I wasn't there for charity work. I was there because I was getting paid.
Nick
I'm saying, when you do art, when you are in drag, is it only when money is coming?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no, it's. It's when I want to do drag. I do drag when I feel like doing drag.
Mona X Change
For example, I went to the last Culture Recess Awards. I did drag because I Felt like it.
Nick
Challenge.
Mona X Change
Yeah. I did drag. I wanted to. I didn't do that. Wasn't getting paid.
Nick
Is that the $10,000 dress?
Mona X Change
That was. Thank you.
Nick
And that was worth wearing?
Mona X Change
It sure was. It was. I was like, I want to go. They were like, they had no expectations of me going to drag. I was like, I go drag.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why not now? When do you do real estate?
Nick
I don't.
Mona X Change
Wait, are you. Are you, like, done with your. With your day job?
Nick
Pretty much.
Mona X Change
Oh, shit. Now, did you have to, like, sign, like, a paper like, I'm not coming back? Did you quit, like. No.
Nick
I mean, the thing with real estate is you just kind of have a license. So I. I mean, it was never the end game. It was just a job to pay bills and what I needed to do.
Mona X Change
And now you don't need that job to pay your bills now I don't need your bills.
Nick
Right.
Mona X Change
Your drag.
Nick
My drag. That I only do if I'm getting paid. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
When do you do drag?
Nick
When I'm getting paid.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, like, drag, drag. When do you get up in drag? Cause you've been in drag before. I was there.
Nick
There was one time you put me in drag, and it was basically blackface because we don't have the same skin tone.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, where were the pictures? It not blackface.
Mona X Change
You put Nick and dra. You put Nick in blackface?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I never. It's just there was no. It was no black face.
Mona X Change
I don't know why Nick said that.
Bob the Drag Queen
He just couldn't White people foundation. I don't know why Nick said he wasn't black.
Nick
Nick wasn't in white people foundation. Nick, you didn't have foundation for me.
Bob the Drag Queen
I had white people foundation.
Nick
You didn't.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, I did.
Mona X Change
We have.
Mateo Lane
Do we have. I think we. We did, but it was definitely tanner than it is.
Mona X Change
You just said it was given, like crystal Rochi.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you have the picture still somewhere?
Nick
You.
Bob the Drag Queen
If we found it, this is the picture. Nick is not in blackface. Don't tell me.
Nick
Not in black face. You just didn't put me in found because you didn't have foundation. You put me in eye and makeup.
Mona X Change
It was so. It was a very crystal Versace, raven skin tones, sure.
Bob the Drag Queen
But no, Nick was white.
Nick
I was literally just not wearing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why did you say now? As part of the conversation.
Nick
It was a joke.
Bob the Drag Queen
But don't you know how the Internet works now? The Internet's like, nick, Nick does blackface, and Bob put him in blackface. Because you created the canon now.
Nick
Well, I would have assumed they all knew we were joking.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is this your first day on the Internet, Nick?
Nick
Obviously, you didn't put me in blackface. It was a joke because we aren't the same skin tone, so we don't wear the same makeup.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, welcome to the Internet, Nick. The Internet. Famously the place where all the information lives, but none of the nuance exists. This is how the Internet works. So now Nick is a serial blackface. You and Justin Trudeau. You might as well, Nick. You gotta start dating Katy Perry as punishment.
Mona X Change
He's fucking Katy Perry. Well, sorry. They're dating him still?
Nick
Allegedly.
Mona X Change
Katy Perry is. Oh, he's not the first.
Nick
They've been seen around Montreal.
Mona X Change
He's not the Prime Minister anymore.
Bob the Drag Queen
No. Katy Perry is the first lady of Canada. I don't care. Perry. Katy Perry is the first lady.
Mona X Change
Lady Perry.
Bob the Drag Queen
Lady Perry.
Nick
Lady Perry.
Bob the Drag Queen
Katy Perry is an astronaut. She is a hit maker. She is the first lady of Canada, and I will hear nothing.
Nick
A nun killer.
Mona X Change
Oh, my God.
Nick
Allegedly.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, she killed another.
Mona X Change
Wait. Yeah, like Caitlyn Jones.
Mateo Lane
Katy Perry really wanted a house, but it was Katie. She wanted to buy a house. It was currently being occupied by a convent. And there was some legal battles over Katy Perry trying to buy the house. The convent sued her, and the stress of the legal battles killed one of the nuns. Have a heart attack.
Nick
So the Internet jokingly says she killed a nun.
Bob the Drag Queen
Allegedly, she killed a nun. She's the first lady of Canada. She is an astronaut. She writes the hits.
Mona X Change
And she. One time she kissed the girl and
Bob the Drag Queen
she liked it, and she kissed the girl and she liked it.
Nick
And she still does more drag than the two of you.
Bob the Drag Queen
And how much are you doing?
Nick
I don't claim to be a drag queen.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, does she do drag?
Nick
It's not on my business card. Drag queen.
Bob the Drag Queen
The question is, does she do drag as often as you do blackface?
Mona X Change
You fucking.
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Bob the Drag Queen
No. Does she do drag as often as you do?
Nick
That's a question. You're the one putting me in it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Here's a picture of Nick in blackface. Jacob, I need your Photoshop skills. No, no, no. Here's another picture of Nick in blackface with a frozen sign.
Mona X Change
Here's a third picture of Bob putting Nick in blackface with the afro in his tongue.
Bob the Drag Queen
And this time he's wearing a dashiki.
Nick
You want to play games, Nick?
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's play games.
Nick
We're not doing that.
Mona X Change
Have y' all seen this thing about Gail finally talking about the.
Mateo Lane
Her and Oprah?
Nick
Yes, Mateo and I were just talking about it.
Mona X Change
So interesting.
Nick
It's kind of sad.
Mona X Change
Why? Why sad?
Mateo Lane
What happened? They're not best friends anymore.
Nick
No, no, no, they are.
Mona X Change
Oprah and Gail are still friends. Gail just did the Call Her Daddy podcast with Alex Cooper. Famously call her big ass podcast. And Alex was like, so for years, people are talking about that you and Oprah were, like, lovers? She was like, no. She was like. She's like, it's never been true. We're just really good friends. And she was like. And she's like. I asked Oprah. She's like, we need to talk about this on your show. And Oprah was like, no, we don't need to.
Nick
But the thing after that Gail said kind of made me sad, where she was like, that's fine and dandy for you. You cannot talk about it because you're dating someone. I'm single.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but I. But is. I mean, I'm not Gayle King, so obviously, I don't know what's up in Gail's life, but, like, are the rumors of her dating Oprah so vast and why that now she can't get a man?
Mona X Change
I would say in, like, the early
Bob the Drag Queen
hours, I would say right now. Yeah.
Nick
It was always the punchline.
Bob the Drag Queen
Every lesbian I know will tell me this. Being a confirmed devout lesbian will not stop a man from hitting on you. You can probably. You can be holding hands with your wife, finger blasting her, kissing her, wearing a pride flag. That will not stop a man.
Mona X Change
Say, but like, in, like, the late 90s, early aughts, where Ellen had just got her entire life canceled because she was a lesbian, I think it was a little different because. Because she. She was foreseeably dating one of the most successful and biggest stars of the time. She still is. So I think it probably has a different effect than just dating a Susan down the street.
Bob the Drag Queen
Again, I want to reiterate, I'm not Gayle King, so I can't speak for experience.
Nick
I don't say faggots.
Bob the Drag Queen
I do not think that any accusation ever stopped a man from hitting on Gayle King. Men, straight men, were hit on you at your mother's funeral.
Nick
I don't think the argument was mentioned. Aren't hitting on me, so we need to talk about it was. People are saying I'm something that I'm not.
Bob the Drag Queen
But. But I'm talking about the sad part. You were like, but you. It's fine for you. You have a man. I don't. So that seems to insinuate that the accusations of them dating are somehow stopping her from having a man.
Mona X Change
Well, that's her experience. That's what she's saying. Gail was saying, like, this is. This is affecting my dating life. So she's saying, ostensibly, it is affecting my dating life.
Nick
No, the sad part. Meaning she's saying, Oprah can prove, look, I'm not a lesbian because I'm with Stedman. Gail can't be like, look, I'm not a lesbian because I'm with. There's no one there because her husband
Mona X Change
had just cheated on her with her best friend.
Bob the Drag Queen
Gayle King's husband.
Mateo Lane
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
She was going out.
Mona X Change
She was flying out of lax. And then back in the day, she said, the LA used to call me and be like, your flight is delayed. But this is. They did whatever. So she goes back home, and she. She sees a security on. She's like, that's weird. Because of the time of day. It is. She goes in the house, her husband runs on stage with a towel around him. He's like, hey, you can't come upstairs. She's like, why?
Nick
She's like, this is my home.
Mona X Change
She's like, someone's here. And he's like, she thought he was fucking around. Which I don't know why I should think he was kidding around in a towel, sweating, coming downstairs like, you can't come upstairs. She's like, get out of the way. So she goes searching around. She finds her best friend hiding behind.
Nick
Not Oprah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Not Oprah. No, no, no, no, no. Her best friend. Continue.
Mona X Change
One of her best friends standing there behind Katy Perry. Katy Perry standing behind a door in an astronaut outfit. Standing behind a door naked. Cause her and her husband were just fucking. And then she's like, oh, my God, this is crazy. And he's like, do not. And her husband.
Mateo Lane
Well.
Mona X Change
And she's like, I'm gonna call her husband. He's like, no, you can't call her husband because I'm gonna drop her off so he doesn't know what's going on.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let me call. Whose husband? The friend. Oh, the friends married, too?
Mona X Change
Yes.
Nick
And then she said. She said her famous tagline and what in the faggotry?
Bob the Drag Queen
And where were you? In there doing blackface. Nick was hiding in the corner.
Nick
We have to cut the black face.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no. If you keep dragging it, I'm gonna drag it.
Nick
You're the one dragging it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. Every time you mention dragon, I'm gonna triple up on blackface. So every.
Nick
Every drag that's different.
Bob the Drag Queen
They're gonna be three blackface accusations.
Nick
You not doing drag is fun and dandy. You Photoshopping me In blackface.
Bob the Drag Queen
These are real photos. We didn't photoshop these.
Mona X Change
First of all, there is document to prove that you and your sneaky ex boyfriend. Ex boyfriend. Sneaky little boyfriend doctor images.
Bob the Drag Queen
These are not doctored. People who went to college with Nick.
Nick
No, you're not putting votas up.
Bob the Drag Queen
The photos are already there. They exist on the Internet. Nick, I don't know what you want me to tell you now.
Mona X Change
And now all the comments. If you want photoshopping, making black things.
Nick
So please don't put that in. I don't need that.
Bob the Drag Queen
We don't. This, this is not. This is not. I never like. We don't. We don't cut stuff on this podcast, Nicholas.
Nick
Cutting that. I don't need them putting me in black.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is.
Nick
This is civil rights people online nowadays, they'll believe it.
Mona X Change
They sure will.
Bob the Drag Queen
The Internet, where all their. All their information is there, but none of the nuances there.
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Mona X Change
Okay, so what if you and Jacob are in a monogamous relationship, right? And then you come back from, you're flying out to Wolvesworth to Wisconsin. Your flight gets delayed, you come back to the house, you see and Jacob, you open the front door to your apartment, he goes and he's like, you cannot come inside here. He's like, you have to wait at the door.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. There are so many caveats here that don't exist in the world that I have to like, like we're in a monogamous relationship. There's a lot role playing.
Mona X Change
Bobby Roleplay.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. I'm communicating about how. How I didn't say it's not possible. I said there's just so many layers of, like, pretend in this that it's hard to even imagine, even in a open relationship. If I come home and someone says, you can't come in here. I'm like, what are you talking. I don't care if.
Mona X Change
If.
Bob the Drag Queen
If I come home and my own home, my nephew was like, you can't come in here. I'd be like, what are you talking about? I can come in my fucking house. This is crazy.
Mona X Change
What did you. Was like, I have. There's, like a surprise, like, you have to say at the door, like, I'm doing something for you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I've had a center like that. One time I came home and Ty was doing a Christmas gift, and he was like, you can't go in this one room because. And I said, okay. And I just stayed in the other. And I just stayed in the living room.
Mona X Change
Okay, but this is not the living room. But you can't come in the house. I'm preparing to hold you. You can't come in the house. You have to stay at the front door. Like, outside the front door.
Bob the Drag Queen
So in this scenario, is my birthday coming up?
Mona X Change
No, your birthday's not coming up.
Bob the Drag Queen
So it's just a random day.
Nick
It's a random Tuesday in September.
Mona X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
And Jacob is asking me not to come into the house.
Mona X Change
Correct.
Nick
You get to the front door, he stops you and goes, you can't come in.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I would say, why?
Mona X Change
He's like, I'm. I'm preparing us something.
Nick
There's just something going on. I. So you cannot be home right now.
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you mean something?
Nick
He doesn't want to ruin this price, so he just says, something's happening, so you just can't.
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you mean something, Jacob?
Nick
This is what I'm showing you, what I'm doing.
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you mean something?
Mona X Change
Well, can you just trust me? It's just something.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, when you say something, I need to know what you mean by something. What is surprise? A. You're surprising me. You're surprising something.
Mona X Change
Yes. You can't come in the house right now.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, well, how long do you need the apartment?
Mona X Change
Probably about 20 minutes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, I'll see you in 20 minutes.
Mona X Change
All right.
Bob the Drag Queen
But if I say. But if I. If he keep going something, I'm like, what do you mean something? I would. I would just take something. I be like, what do you mean something? If you say surprise, I'm like, okay, this I can actually process. But you give me. Like, something's happening then. No, that's.
Mona X Change
That's not Then you hear a rustling in the kitchen, and you hear a.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would assume it was part of the surprise. And I would keep. Like, I would keep leaving.
Mona X Change
Okay, Now. Now Jacob's closing door. I just closed the door. You see my figure run across the back naked.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would assume you were part of the surprise naked. Well, I don't think Jacob wants to fuck you, so I'm not really worried about it. Like, I don't think Jacob has any interest in having sex with you, so I genuinely worried about it.
Mona X Change
Okay, work. So the Jacob. I close the door, we finish fucking, and then I. I go down the fire escape, and then no one's the wiser.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I just don't think Jacob wants to bone you, so I'm not interested. And also, if Jacob. If you and Jacob really want to have sex, I really don't care if you have sex.
Mona X Change
You're monogamous. Y' all don't. It's not open.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's what I'm saying. So now I have to change who I am in the thing, too? Like.
Nick
Yes.
Mona X Change
Never mind, Bob. Because. Because what we do on Superpower Generator.
Bob the Drag Queen
We have superpowers. Well, we're bending.
Nick
You're so good at rolling with the punches.
Mona X Change
Well, I can't think about this. Cause that's.
Bob the Drag Queen
What if we're in a monogamous. Like, I have to change who I am to like. So now to create me being a jealous person.
Mona X Change
Well, just like the role play we played when you were a baby.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're not a baby. When was I a baby?
Mona X Change
In a roleplay.
Bob the Drag Queen
But we were playing. We were different characters. You want to be a whole new character? I'll be a character.
Mona X Change
Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, you created where I'm me. I can be a character. You want to be a character? You want to beat Jacob up? Go back. Fuck you, bitch. Get out of my house. I paid the mortgage in this bitch. And then I punch him in the chest. But that's not enough.
Nick
And that's all we were asking.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I'm not done. I'm not done. He's bleeding now, so I pull my fist back and I hit him again.
Mona X Change
Homelander.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, it's worse than Homelander. This is one punch, man. He's through the floor. Now I jump up, and I dive down his body. No, I'm not done. His body explodes. And then I take all the pieces, I put them back together. And you do it again. No. And then I start eating them.
Nick
Okay. Can I start?
Mateo Lane
All right.
Nick
Army hammer.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm chewing on them. And then I. Then I shit them out. I'm not done. And I shit them out, and then I flush them down the toilet.
Nick
No, you eat it again. Two girls, one cup style.
Mona X Change
Then you bend over, you shoot it out your asshole. It comes back into your mouth.
Nick
Was that so hard? That's all we wanted.
Bob the Drag Queen
We wanted. Well, there you go. You got it.
Nick
Thank you. God.
Mateo Lane
One of the best bits I ever did, really prime bit, was that we were living in New York, and Nick was coming over.
Bob the Drag Queen
Hey, are you home?
Mateo Lane
Can I come over and hang out? And I was like, yes. But I have this bit, so we're gonna do this. So I go to Bob, and I say, hey, babe. I have a hookup coming over like a guy from Grindr. We're just gonna go into the other bedroom, which is kind of far away down this hallway.
Mona X Change
How long were y' all together?
Mateo Lane
At this point, about a year and a half gone.
Nick
Okay, two years.
Mona X Change
Okay.
Mateo Lane
So Nick comes in. I just say hi. Nick doesn't say anything. Nick and I go to the bedroom. We wait there for maybe five to seven minutes. I come out. I say. I go to. I would say, babe, the guy who came over, he. I don't know. Something was off, and he just. He passed out on the bed, and he's not moving, and I don't know what to do. He rushes to the room. Nick is pretending to be.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I was like. I was like, all right, let's deal with it. I'm pretty sure I'm just kind of like, all right, okay.
Nick
So you are.
Mona X Change
When you went. When. When you went in, when you saw it was Nick?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, he.
Mateo Lane
First he saw somebody passed out on the bed, and then it. And then it took a moment for him to realize it was Nick, too.
Bob the Drag Queen
Then I was like, oh.
Nick
And then he dragged me out of
Bob the Drag Queen
the house and threw him in the
Nick
gutter and then chopped me up, Shit me out.
Bob the Drag Queen
He exploded. I put him back together. Put him in pieces. Yes, exactly. So what do you do in the situation where you. Where you're. You come home and your partner. Your monogamous relationship where you don't believe in. You don't believe in open relationships?
Nick
I would probably say I'm coming in anyways. I would probably still barge in, because I don't like surprises. So I would probably be like, well, I don't like surprises, so I'm coming in.
Mona X Change
I'm coming in anyway.
Nick
Something feels off, Right?
Bob the Drag Queen
You didn't trust that your partner is doing a surprise for you?
Mateo Lane
No.
Nick
Because if they're my partner. They know I don't like surprises.
Mona X Change
Right. And I'm thinking, if I came back from a thing. So I have three suitcases with me. I'm probably annoyed that I went all the way to the airport and my thing canceled. I was like, you know what? I'm putting my bags inside. I was like, the surprise can't be that fucking good. Because now I have three suitcases, a hoodie, a sweater. I'm annoyed or irritated.
Nick
Unless the surprise consists of every square footage of my home. I can at least walk into this area.
Mona X Change
Exactly.
Nick
And be in here. I don't want to stand outside of my own home. That I pay for.
Mona X Change
Yeah.
Nick
And then if they really press, then I'm like, okay, now I'm really coming in.
Mona X Change
Yeah. Something is weird.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, when I.
Nick
And then I would chop them up into pieces.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, around Christmas time, I came home and Tal was coming out of the guest room, and he was like, oh, I didn't know you were coming home. I was like, oh, yeah.
Mona X Change
Hey.
Bob the Drag Queen
He goes, I'm doing something in here. He was like, doing a gift thing. He was wrapping gifts in the bedroom. And he was like, just don't come in this one room. And I was like, okay. And then I just stayed in the home, and I just didn't go to that one room.
Nick
Well, that's kind of different. Cause it was around Christmas. It was for Christmas. So then I'm like, all right, whatever.
Mona X Change
Wait, so what was the surprise? Surprise.
Bob the Drag Queen
He was rapping. He's just rapping Christmas gifts.
Mona X Change
Oh, got it.
Mateo Lane
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
And that's the room that Cody's normally in. So I was gonna go say hey to Cody.
Mona X Change
Got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
But he was just rapping Christmas gifts is all.
Mona X Change
Got it. Nick, are you ever gonna get a pet? No. A gerbil.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you know Nick?
Mona X Change
I know, but I mean, a gerbil.
Bob the Drag Queen
Nick doesn't like pets.
Mona X Change
I know, but. But I feel like the only get is. Is it any. Anything about you? Like, I'm getting old. I want to care for another human being.
Nick
Whenever you're growing up and you're always like, I don't want kids. And people are like, when you get older, you'll change your mind. I've never changed my mind about animals, kids, none of that.
Bob the Drag Queen
You must change your mind about something in your life. There's no way you think the same way you do.
Mateo Lane
I mean, that stuff.
Bob the Drag Queen
What have you changed your mind about? You must change your mind about something in your life. Otherwise, you're still 16 year old. Nick. That's crazy.
Nick
I know. I'm trying to think. I feel like I have a lot of the same opinions. Well, I know there's no way but like top of mind religion I've never believed in. Even when I was a child. I got kicked out of church as a kid. Yes. I got kicked out of confirmation. I sat in confirmation. They went around and they said, let's all go around and say what we believe in. And it got to me and I said, I believe that you all believe this is real.
Bob the Drag Queen
When they say what we believe in, they just like in general, they're like in reference to religion.
Nick
Religion.
Mateo Lane
So.
Bob the Drag Queen
But isn't there just. I mean, I reckon there's just one answer. Like everyone just says, I believe in Jesus.
Nick
I don't know. Yes. I mean people were like, I believe that there's a God, I believe that the Bible's real or whatever like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's an odd practice. I literally say what you all believe. It's just so open ended.
Mona X Change
Well, maybe they're trying to sift out the.
Nick
And then afterwards, Pastor Joyce, who watches all my content. Shut up. I mean they all, for the most part, most of them love me. The reason I went to the church, it was across the street and they had a really big music program and like kid program. So I did a lot of shows there and singing there. This at this point was probably 13. And so she was like, why don't you stay after class or whatever you
Bob the Drag Queen
at 13 this time.
Nick
What grade are you in in 13?
Mona X Change
13. That's seven. No, that's nine.
Bob the Drag Queen
Seventh grade.
Mona X Change
13.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, because. Because you have four years in high school, so 13, 14, 15, 16. That would be. They'll make you 16 when you regular high school.
Nick
I was probably like five, 10 maybe. And then I shot up to my.
Bob the Drag Queen
You started shooting up?
Nick
I started shooting up.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is crazy.
Nick
And how do you think shooting up works?
Bob the Drag Queen
Can you show me what you think
Mona X Change
it looks like to shoot up?
Nick
You know I don't like needles.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, just. I'm like asking you to use a real name.
Nick
I know, but you know, I don't even.
Bob the Drag Queen
I just exploded. I just exploded Jacob into bits and shot him out.
Nick
That's different. You know I don't like needles or talking about it.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can't even talk about it?
Nick
No.
Mona X Change
Wow.
Nick
It's making me uneasy right now because now I'm thinking about it and I
Mateo Lane
can't imagine somebody smoke math.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. How do you smoke meth?
Nick
Okay, well, this I'm learning. I didn't realize you could smoke Meth. I thought.
Mona X Change
How did you think you do that?
Nick
Yeah, you think you ate, man.
Mona X Change
Like an edible.
Bob the Drag Queen
You think you have meth edibles?
Mona X Change
That might be a good market.
Bob the Drag Queen
There are meth edibles, but that's not. Yeah, there are meth edibles. That's not the main way to do it, though.
Nick
So these gays are out here smoking.
Mona X Change
You smoke it. You smoke it. And it comes from, like. Well, you describe.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. What do you think? What do you think? How do you think you smoke meth?
Nick
Well, now, I don't know if you use your.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can't use your. You can't use your image. Use your imagination.
Nick
You see, neither of us are entertained by that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Use your imagination.
Mona X Change
Like, so. Dopey.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was doing y' all a second ago. Use your imagination.
Nick
Okay. Is it with the spoon?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
Mona X Change
No. Oh, yeah.
Nick
Use your imagining.
Mona X Change
I thought you didn't know.
Nick
So not a spoon, but you're smoking it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Mona X Change
You do smoke.
Nick
Okay, so.
Mona X Change
Oh, sorry.
Nick
Well, what does it even look like?
Mona X Change
Let me do a bit with this guy.
Mateo Lane
You never stop Breaking Bad.
Nick
No, I watched first episode and I.
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you think? It looks like we're trying to get you to build this. You trying to get us to answer the question for you?
Mona X Change
I always.
Bob the Drag Queen
He's like, so how do you do it?
Mona X Change
What does it look like?
Nick
Well, I always assumed it looked kind of like coke, but instead of snorting it, people were, like, putting it in their mouth.
Mona X Change
But they call it crystal meth. I'm. See, I'm giving the crystals.
Bob the Drag Queen
Nick has not answered a single question. We have answered all the questions for Nick. Use your imagination crystals and you smoke them.
Nick
So you have to chop them up. And then apparently not a spoon. So you're. If you're smoking it, you must wrap them up.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wrap it up in what?
Nick
I don't know. Smoking paper.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like. Like a joint?
Mona X Change
No, they do that. Seaweed. Seaweed. Seaweed leaf.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are you saying like a joint?
Nick
Doing with seaweed.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are you saying like a joint?
Nick
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay.
Nick
And then smoke it.
Bob the Drag Queen
And how do you. Do you use your lighter? Do you use like a.
Nick
Use your mind.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I mean, do you use like an open. Like, what kind of lighter do you use? Do you think.
Nick
Whatever flame is available to light it.
Mateo Lane
There we go.
Mona X Change
Also, my crystal mess story was I was in PV and I picked up this guy off the street, really hot guy, coming back from the club. And, you know, you've been gay.
Nick
You.
Mona X Change
You never cruise. Have you cruised?
Bob the Drag Queen
No. So you've cruised Nick doesn't cruise.
Mona X Change
Like, you know, cruise or cruise once. Like, kinda.
Nick
I've been to one spa.
Mona X Change
Okay. So we were walking back and, you know, just make gay eyes. You're like, oh, on the same type of time. Came back to my.
Nick
I've never picked up someone off the street.
Mona X Change
It was off the street.
Nick
I would be too anxious.
Mona X Change
Yeah, I. I know you would. But this, you know, I was in PV and I was living.
Nick
That's a place to do it.
Mona X Change
Exactly. Walk by the hotel, get into. Bring him to the thing. And I'm like, now. Talking, kissing, whatever. And I start sucking his dick. And as I'm down there, I hear a crackling sound. And then I look up. So meth is like a skinny, skinny pipe with a bulb at the end of it.
Nick
Okay.
Mona X Change
And then I hear the smoking and I look at.
Nick
Isn't that what you smoke weed out of?
Mona X Change
No, that's a.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no. Yes. That's it.
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Nick
It's like glass and there's a little
Bob the Drag Queen
round and the little round thing.
Nick
Yeah, but you can smoke weed out
Bob the Drag Queen
of it and you put the weed inside of it, right?
Mateo Lane
Yeah.
Nick
No, I'm not doing a bit.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's literally. I'm not either. We're on the same page.
Nick
No, but that is correct.
Bob the Drag Queen
Nick. We're on the same page.
Nick
No, you're doing something, doing anything.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's good.
Nick
That has to be correct.
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Nick
No, but I know that I have seen the little glass tube with a small ball at the end.
Mona X Change
Yeah.
Nick
With weed in it.
Mateo Lane
Yeah.
Mona X Change
Where did you see that?
Nick
Some house party or something?
Bob the Drag Queen
House Party.
Mona X Change
Does it have meth pipes?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, it's a weed pipe.
Mateo Lane
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Your house is the weed. It's the weed pipe.
Nick
It was at the house Katy Perry was trying to buy.
Mona X Change
Okay? So, yeah. So I hit a crack and I
Bob the Drag Queen
look up and I see him smoking this thing.
Mona X Change
Now I had never seen methy before. I'd heard about it, okay? And then I said, it crackles like cuz it's a crystal. So like, I guess it crackles. So I look up at him, I was like, hey, you can't smoke in here. He's like, he says to me, don't worry, it doesn't have a smell. And I was like, does it? No. Meth. It didn't smell. I guess meth doesn't have a smell. And I was like, you still can't do that in here. And then he continued to do it. So then I was like, oh, no, actually my friend, I was saying by myself, I was like, my friend, my roommate is coming back, so you have to leave in my hotel room.
Nick
Okay, wait, meth is like when gays are doing terms. Is that a big T?
Bob the Drag Queen
That's the one.
Nick
So when it says parti, that's meth.
Mona X Change
Because it's called a colloquialism from meth. Is famous drag queen T? A famous drag queen? Come on. With a T. A famous singer as well.
Nick
With a T?
Mona X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like one of the most famous singers of all time is her first name
Mona X Change
and she's rolling down the river.
Nick
Tina.
Mona X Change
Tina, correct. Correct. Cause so I've seen old gays go back and forth about this. Some say it's called Christina, some call it Tina. But there's a mix up between the generations of what the lore is around why it's called Tina.
Nick
Does the tennis ball symbolize something on Grindr? Tennis ball?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Old guys. Is it you put a tennis ball into your walker?
Mona X Change
No, I think it's for big balls. No. Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
That can't be a thing.
Mateo Lane
Isn't it?
Nick
I thought it meant a drug of some kind.
Mateo Lane
I think it might be like ball torture.
Mona X Change
Oh, we all.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. None of us know what it is.
Mona X Change
Do you like, do you like your ball tortured?
Nick
I just see so many guys on Grindr with like tennis in their bio and I'm like, they probably. These people all can't be playing tennis.
Bob the Drag Queen
Actually, I will say I actually see a lot of people on.
Mona X Change
In.
Bob the Drag Queen
In la, unless I just don't know. They're all like looking for a tennis partner.
Nick
That's what I mean, that it has.
Mateo Lane
Maybe it's Tennis balls. Tennis tea, meth.
Mona X Change
So you think tennis ball is like a symbol for meth?
Mateo Lane
It could be tennis T, meth, or tennis. I like, my balls hit really hard.
Nick
I mean, I know tennis is a gay sport, but there just cannot be that many games. Being like, I'm looking for tennis ball
Bob the Drag Queen
really, But I've had guys say, genuinely looking for a tennis partner.
Mona X Change
But is that a code for something?
Bob the Drag Queen
I do not know it to be a code. I just thought people really like these
Nick
really are into tennis balls coming back. But in New York, where there's barely any tennis courts, I see it all the time.
Mateo Lane
It's meth. They're looking for meth.
Mona X Change
Okay, okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
Tennis partners.
Mona X Change
No. Oh, the tennis balls mean meth.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, that's what I'm saying.
Mateo Lane
Yeah.
Mona X Change
Does the T. Got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
So now we're hearing this reference size. I don't know.
Mateo Lane
Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know what it is.
Nick
Sound off in the comments. Yeah.
Mona X Change
What y' all think the tennis balls are? Anyway, so, long story short, I. I tell. I tell. I tell him my roommate's coming back who's in a room with. And he. I was like, you gotta go. And I get him out the room, and then we're in the elevator. As we get in the elevator, I step out as it's closing. Cause it was a shitty elevator, so the sensor wasn't working, and I run. But then he gets off on the next floor and is trying to. So he's, like chasing me up and down the stairs in this building. And I had to hide in a janitor closet for like, 25 minutes for him.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're being chased by the meth head?
Mona X Change
Yes.
Nick
That's what you get for cruising.
Mona X Change
I know.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, chased, chased. What was he chasing you to do
Mona X Change
to get back in the room? I don't know, but I, like, left him to elevate the door.
Nick
He clearly wasn't in the right state of mind.
Mona X Change
It was wild. Also because he on so much meth, his dick wasn't like, no, it's not in drag. His dick was not even getting laughed.
Bob the Drag Queen
Of course.
Nick
Not
Mateo Lane
that.
Nick
We didn't need to ask that.
Bob the Drag Queen
He's the one.
Nick
You said it first.
Bob the Drag Queen
He's the one saying, obviously.
Mona X Change
So, yeah, that was my mess story.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've never. I've seen people do meth, but, like, on the street never. Like in my streets, where I lived in Berkeley for six months, I saw a lot of people doing meth. I saw folks doing meth on the streets in New York City.
Nick
You grew up in New York. You didn't ever see someone do math?
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
Mona X Change
The first time I ever saw someone do drugs on the street. Like, I saw someone shooting up in. In. In SF In San Francisco.
Bob the Drag Queen
Dude.
Mona X Change
They were doing what?
Nick
Shooting up.
Mona X Change
I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
I didn't hear it. I didn't hear.
Mona X Change
It had a traffic light. What did it look like?
Nick
Stop.
Mona X Change
It was a really long needle.
Bob the Drag Queen
Was it rusty or clean?
Mona X Change
It was rusty.
Bob the Drag Queen
Were they, like, bleeding everywhere?
Mona X Change
Blood. Every.
Nick
Oh, I can't. It was an episode of the Boys this La la.
Mona X Change
Like, a lot of needles, right?
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, so many needles. How many needles, Nick? We're done. We're done. We're done.
Mona X Change
We're done, we're done.
Nick
Do you know that I have never drank in my life? And I've never done any drug of any kind. I've never smoked a cigarette. I've never done wheat.
Mona X Change
Well, so you lied.
Nick
I've never had a full drink in my life.
Mona X Change
But, you know, that's not what you said. You said, I've never.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's. Yeah, you caught him in a lot.
Mona X Change
Yeah, you caught him in a lot. Never had a drink. A shot is a drink. Just.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, we just caught him in a lot. That's crazy.
Mona X Change
Not as a shot of diamond.
Mateo Lane
I saw you do math two weeks ago.
Mona X Change
You had those tennis balls on your profile in Blank vs.
Bob the Drag Queen
With needles.
Mona X Change
Okay, stop. Wait. Nick, tell me about. So I'm very.
Nick
A little hurt about what?
Mona X Change
That you're doing a show.
Bob the Drag Queen
Very.
Mona X Change
A little hurt doing a show in LA and you didn't invite me to be on the deus or whatever the. To be a part of the show. The one that you just added a second.
Nick
I literally.
Mona X Change
No, the one you added a second show to.
Nick
Okay. I just asked you last night.
Mona X Change
Oh, that's. That show?
Nick
Yes.
Mona X Change
Oh, okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
So now.
Mona X Change
So now what? I thought was a different. So now I'm not mad anymore.
Nick
And there we go. We squashed that beef real quick.
Mateo Lane
See.
Nick
See how civil that was?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't give a. Go be civil on your. Go be civil on your own podcast.
Mona X Change
I am on my own podcast.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, you're all on podcast. What's y' all going to be called? I never. Rivalry.
Nick
Are you gonna do. Are you gonna do drag on my show? Of course not.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't do drag on the show. No, I'm not doing drag.
Nick
He doesn't do drag.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't wanna do drag on your show.
Mona X Change
Now that you have hair, do you think you do, like, looks like. Like. Like a. Like a. Without a Wig?
Mateo Lane
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
The answer is no.
Nick
Really?
Mona X Change
Black women do their hair like that sometimes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah. Okay. Black women also are bald.
Nick
I know.
Mona X Change
That's what I'm saying. You used to do bald looks.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't. I. I don't really do bald looks. I've maybe have done maybe one or
Mona X Change
two bald looks in my life.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I'm saying I think that the way my hair was before was also how black women do.
Nick
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
But the answer is no. I'm not interested.
Mona X Change
If I had hair, I would totally do that. I would love to look at Amber Rose. I. I would cook.
Bob the Drag Queen
I thought she a black woman.
Mona X Change
Oh, yeah. She said she's not black. I forget what she said.
Nick
I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
Look at that recent picture, Amber Rose.
Mona X Change
I know where she stands on it now. She's black.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's, like, a recent picture of Amber Rose. Like that.
Mona X Change
There it is. That looks like a white lady. Wait, is she black?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know anymore. I don't follow Amber Rose's career enough to know if she's black or not. I know there have been pictures where I thought to myself, gosh, she looks black. And then there are moments where I think myself, these are parents. No, that's a child.
Mona X Change
Oh, that's. No, that's a. That's hurting the son, though. Those are her parents.
Nick
Oh, okay.
Mona X Change
So that's a white man. And it looks like a black lady to me. But I could be wrong.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know. I don't know her genealogy enough to know if she's black or not. I. I don't know.
Mona X Change
Work, Nick. So tell me about your thoughts on Amber Rose blackness. Do you think she's in blackface or you think.
Nick
I don't particularly really know this woman. I've known the name, and I obviously recognize a picture, but I don't really know anything about her.
Mona X Change
Got it.
Mateo Lane
Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
Would you go on her podcast?
Nick
She has a podcast?
Bob the Drag Queen
She had one, yeah.
Mona X Change
Bob and I did it.
Nick
Oh, she loves to have you. Is she. Isn't she a controversial person?
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
Nick
Doesn't she love Trump?
Mateo Lane
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
You should go.
Nick
I'm pretty sure she loves to try
Mona X Change
that, but I know she is. She has a podcast.
Nick
That's.
Bob the Drag Queen
I will say we went on her podcast, and then, like, the next day, she's like, maga. And we're like, that's crazy. We're like, that's. That's crazy.
Mona X Change
We did her podcast and she just started saying, like, problematic things. Remember she was thinking thing about dating, like, Asian something, and we were like, this is getting crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't fully remember what I. My biggest takeaway was that you and her at some point were taught were talking about aliens. And I. If I recall correctly, I think we may have shifted to the moon landing at some point. There was a weird alien thing and she had some crazy. I feel like she might be a moon landing denier, I think. But I honestly, I genuinely can't remember. Like, I have not. I didn't. I gotta be. I don't. I don't. I don't go back and rewatch podcasts that I'm on.
Mona X Change
I don't even.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm like. I'm like, I was there.
Mona X Change
I hate seeing stuff for myself. I hate hearing myself.
Nick
I hate seeing in every medium, like, even on tv most.
Mona X Change
I mean, pretty across the board. Yeah, I don't, like. I don't enjoy hearing, like, it. It depends. There's sometimes I'm like, oh, yeah. I actually like how the. How I sound there, but I think my voice sounds a little like. I don't always love hearing my voice back.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I get that.
Mona X Change
Yeah. I mean, about. And I hate hearing your voice back as well. I love hearing your voice because yours is so unique.
Bob the Drag Queen
My voice is super unique.
Mona X Change
No, it's not. Yours is unique, though.
Bob the Drag Queen
You heard a lot of voices like mine.
Mona X Change
Yes.
Nick
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, really?
Mona X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's crazy because I've been told that I have a really unique voice. Usually across the board, I have a very. I have a hard to imitate voice, but it is very. Like, if you heard my voice behind, you'd be like that.
Mateo Lane
You.
Bob the Drag Queen
You would know that was me.
Nick
I actually would say, in our friend group, we all have. Have pretty unique voices.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob does not have a very unique voice. There's like, there's like three people. Three people in our friend group who sound like Jacob. Jacob, Mitch and Jay are constantly getting confused for each other.
Mateo Lane
Jay and I sound anything alike. I don't know who's continuing this narrative.
Nick
I don't hear that, but I don't hear that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Damn. They say it.
Nick
But, like, I would say you have a unique voice. You have a unique voice. Mateo's unique voice. I have a unique voice.
Bob the Drag Queen
Peppermint has a unique voice.
Nick
Peppermint, you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Black Alfredo has a pretty unique voice.
Nick
Yeah. I feel like we're.
Mona X Change
Alfredo's pretty neutral.
Nick
But that's also. You could boil down to the fact that we're a very diverse friend group as opposed to. We are pretty diverse other gay friend groups.
Mona X Change
True. There's. There's black people. There's there's white people. There are women, there are men.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's, like, two ladies.
Mona X Change
Exactly. They don't exist. Their voices don't exist. There's like, two. Exactly. But they exist. I'm sorry.
Nick
Two More than most of those Hell's Kitchen groups. Hello.
Bob the Drag Queen
Actually, we only have one.
Mona X Change
We have two.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you include Kennedy?
Mona X Change
Yeah, Kennedy and Peppermint.
Mateo Lane
Mateo.
Bob the Drag Queen
Mateo, the other woman. Yeah.
Mona X Change
To be fair, Kennedy. I feel like there was a big push.
Nick
Patty has a unique voice.
Mona X Change
Patty does a big push to have Kennedy be part of friend group. Kenny was like, no, I'm good.
Nick
Kenny was like, I'm moving to Colorado.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's been announced Mateo Langs is making his Broadway debut in Chicago as Billy Flynn.
Mona X Change
I'm so excited to go see it. That's going to be. To be so fun.
Nick
Only four weeks.
Mona X Change
All your. Your, Your. Your p. Of your. Your pitch to be Roxy. How. How do we get that?
Bob the Drag Queen
I heard you turn the roll down.
Nick
Obviously.
Bob the Drag Queen
Cuz Kat. They took K Per.
Nick
They.
Bob the Drag Queen
Katherine Hudson. Yes.
Nick
No, I really would love to do Amos. I think that that would be fun.
Mona X Change
Who's Am. I have never seen the Shadow.
Nick
He's the one that's saying Chicago.
Mona X Change
We. Every time I say not even the movie.
Nick
You've seen the movie?
Mona X Change
No. You said we do conversation four times.
Nick
You've never seen the movie, though. That's what you need to see tv.
Mona X Change
Well, I want to see the.
Bob the Drag Queen
You didn't go see Jinx?
Mona X Change
No. We. No. Should I. Okay, here's the thing.
Nick
Apologize to Jinx. Yes.
Mona X Change
Should I go see. Should I watch the movie before I go see the show or should I watch the show?
Mateo Lane
That's the next first movie night.
Nick
I'm gonna say watch the movie first.
Mona X Change
Watch the movie first.
Nick
Familiarize yourself with the music and story because you definitely know the music.
Mona X Change
I know like, some of, like the big songs, like Big Spender, Big Spinner
Bob the Drag Queen
is not from scratch.
Mona X Change
It's not.
Bob the Drag Queen
Not even a little rapper. It's from Sweet Cherry.
Mona X Change
When you get to Mama. Mama Morton. Yeah. Divine gravity.
Nick
Razzle dazzle. You know?
Mona X Change
I don't know.
Nick
Give him the old razzle.
Mona X Change
I don't know that.
Nick
That's Mateo's song.
Mona X Change
That's Mateo's song. I don't know that. I know Mama Morton song.
Bob the Drag Queen
You keep saying the same song over and over. You keep going Mama Morton's. And then the one with Mama Morton. I also know the one with Mama Morton.
Mona X Change
The one in the jail. Hit, hit, swish, pop. What's it called? She had it Coming.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Mona X Change
She had it coming.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Mona X Change
And I know.
Bob the Drag Queen
What's the name of it?
Mona X Change
The Honey Rack.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, yes.
Mona X Change
I know the other one that.
Nick
So you know Chicago.
Bob the Drag Queen
I want to hear this other one.
Mona X Change
The one where she's. The name on everybody's list is going to be Roxy. I don't know the name of that song. Song.
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you think it is?
Mona X Change
Roxy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. Yeah.
Mona X Change
Is it called Roxy?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Mona X Change
I can't tell you because you did a whole bit with him earlier.
Bob the Drag Queen
It said.
Nick
Yes.
Mona X Change
I don't trust. I j. You know, I don't trust you. And the two of y' all be colluded.
Nick
Regardless. You should watch the movie first, cuz it's an incredible movie and it's one
Bob the Drag Queen
of the best movies.
Nick
Catherine Zeta Jones is unbelievable.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm going say right now, every single person in that film is incredible.
Nick
There is everyone.
Bob the Drag Queen
Literally not a dub. Queen Latifah eats Catherine Zeta Jones eats Renee Zellweger.
Nick
Lucy Liu.
Bob the Drag Queen
Lucy Liu eats Richard Greer.
Nick
I mean, I will say everyone in it is an amazing Carol, but Catherine's a junior. Like, I get why you won the Oscar.
Mona X Change
She showed an Oscar for this.
Nick
Sure did.
Bob the Drag Queen
And Queen Latifah was nominated for supporting. Yes.
Mona X Change
And Catherine was Maine. Like, for lead. Lead.
Nick
I want. I've said this on our podcast. I want Queen Latifah to win an Oscar, and we need to figure out how to make that happen.
Mona X Change
Okay.
Nick
Where is she?
Mona X Change
Can you check with Jacob? Where is she on the egot status? Does she have a Tony? I think she. What is she one of the producers on? Huh?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, she a producer.
Mona X Change
I think she's a producer on. On a Color Purple. No, I'm not making that up. Yeah, but what's her. Like, what does she have?
Bob the Drag Queen
She has an Emmy for. For.
Nick
She has an Emmy. A Grammy.
Bob the Drag Queen
She has a Grammy for. For her rap music. She has an Oscar nomination, so no Oscar.
Mona X Change
So she needed an Oscar or Tony. She can get a Tony for on something.
Nick
She can get an Oscar.
Mona X Change
Yeah, sure.
Nick
How are we getting her an Oscar?
Mona X Change
It's gonna be her big dramatic role, which. What is What. What role is Queen of Steve gonna play?
Mateo Lane
Here's the thing. She did Bestie. Have you seen Bessie?
Mona X Change
So it is amazing.
Mateo Lane
Like, that's the role.
Mona X Change
Yeah. Like, how does she not get even?
Mateo Lane
She got an Emmy for Bestie, so I don't. I don't think Bessie would have been nominated.
Mona X Change
Oh. For an Oscar.
Bob the Drag Queen
A TV movie.
Mona X Change
Yeah. Like, she. Like what. What role gets what. What role is she doing that gives her an Oscar?
Bob the Drag Queen
I Think that maybe the role could be if they do a movie version of Madam C.J. walker.
Mona X Change
That's good.
Mateo Lane
Who played her?
Bob the Drag Queen
It was a TV and it was
Mona X Change
Octavia Spencer.
Mateo Lane
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
So maybe a movie version.
Mona X Change
It was a Netflix show.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was a Netflix show. Yeah, maybe. I mean, they've already done Ma Rainey, so it couldn't be that.
Nick
Yeah, Viola.
Mona X Change
But maybe just an original story, I think. Okay. I think her Oscar comes when she just leans into the faggot tree of it all and she plays.
Bob the Drag Queen
She did in. What set it off.
Mona X Change
Yeah. But no, that was.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can't lean hard of Matt. No, she was as Dice.
Nick
I don't think it comes. It's gonna come from that. I think it's gonna be an original a 24 movie that she agrees to sign on to.
Bob the Drag Queen
What is the. What's the movie about?
Nick
I don't know. It's an original.
Bob the Drag Queen
Say it.
Mona X Change
Why are you such an active. Say it.
Mateo Lane
Say it.
Bob the Drag Queen
What's the movie about?
Nick
What just happened?
Bob the Drag Queen
Say it. When I say it again.
Mateo Lane
Say it.
Mona X Change
No, you say it.
Nick
What's happening?
Bob the Drag Queen
Use your imagination. Use your imagination.
Nick
I thought you two were doing like a Helen Keller bit.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, it's a bit that we've established in this realm on this podcast already.
Nick
And no one has said it like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, we did.
Nick
Just so you know, we knew.
Mateo Lane
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
What's the movie? We'll all come with it. So you tell. Where is this set?
Nick
Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, time.
Nick
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
We need an answer quickly. We're wrapping up the pod, I think.
Nick
Okay. I don't know. I don't know. I'm so on the spot to just come up with an Oscar winning movie.
Bob the Drag Queen
All we need is a time. Jesus period. Say now Jesus Western.
Mona X Change
Is it in the 1800s? Like, what? Give us a time.
Nick
I'm going to say, by the way,
Bob the Drag Queen
we're going to come back to you, so get your fucking juices going.
Nick
I'm going to say it's now.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I said that you're going to pick something different. What time is it set in?
Mona X Change
Any decade. Any time. This happens just now.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I said that this is what we did with the crystal meth. We answered it for you and you kept being like, yeah, pick a decade.
Mona X Change
You say one. It could be the future.
Bob the Drag Queen
Just not this one.
Nick
The 90s.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. All right, Monet, where is it?
Mona X Change
This is set in San Francisco in the 90s.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. Now ask me a question.
Mona X Change
Okay. What is her backstory?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, I think that she is a mother, okay. Of several children, but the father has passed away and she's recently come out as lesbian.
Mona X Change
I think it's a lesbian story, too.
Bob the Drag Queen
Now, Nicholas, I didn't know we were doing this together.
Nick
I've now caught on. I thought you were asking me to just come up with everything.
Bob the Drag Queen
Who's the main antagonist of the film? The bad guy?
Nick
Okay. Name the fictional name or name an actor who's playing them.
Mateo Lane
I think her husband was killed.
Bob the Drag Queen
Thank you, Jacob, for picking up the.
Mateo Lane
And she's looking for job justice.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, she's looking for.
Mateo Lane
Just.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, now. Now, Nick, we need you to answer this one without a question.
Nick
Okay?
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. What is. Does she get the vengeance she needs? Because. Because you know that she's a mom in the 90s in San Francisco. Her husband was killed and she's a lesbian and she's looking for vengeance. Is she?
Nick
I don't think this is an Oscar winning film.
Mona X Change
Oh, damn.
Nick
This sounds too campy. Now, Nick.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes. And you're literally the worst. Yes. And what you were doing me earlier, because you're doing what?
Mona X Change
Way worse.
Bob the Drag Queen
Way worse than what, Bob, you're such an annoying.
Nick
What do you need?
Bob the Drag Queen
We just told you, you're out of the game.
Nick
No, what do you need?
Bob the Drag Queen
Me and Monet and Jacob will do it.
Nick
What do you need? And I'll give it to you.
Bob the Drag Queen
So who's helping her do this?
Nick
Viola Davis.
Bob the Drag Queen
Not an actor.
Nick
Well, Viola, if Viola's in the movie, it's gonna have Oscar Viola Davis play it. Her best friend.
Mona X Change
Give us a little more. Is she a cop? Is she a social worker?
Bob the Drag Queen
I think I hate Nick.
Mona X Change
I think I hate Nick.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think I hate Nick. I think I hate him.
Nick
No, it's her childhood best friend. That they've grown up together.
Mona X Change
Okay?
Nick
And now she's helping her. If Viola's in the movie, it's gonna get Oscar buzz.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, now, Monet, what is the scene where people go. That is where Queen Latifah is getting her Oscar.
Mona X Change
Okay, so she's.
Nick
I know the answer.
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
Nick
She finds out Viola killed her husband.
Mona X Change
That's good.
Bob the Drag Queen
Nick and Jacob, what does she say? What's the line that people are quoting for years and years when she discovers that Viola Davis's character has killed her? We can all think of one. When Nick tapped in, he tapped in.
Mona X Change
That was good.
Bob the Drag Queen
That was good. Okay, I'll think. I feel like what's happening is actually. It's a little bit camp, but it's actually really good because they're looking for something. They're looking for like, evidence. And then she either remembers or she sees something.
Mona X Change
Some documents, some paper.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what it is? You know what it is they're hearing? They've been saying over and over again. Like, the red Converse shoes with the rhinestones. The red Converse shoes with the rhinestones. And she's in Violet Davis closet and she's under everything. She's looking for something, and she sees these red Converse shoes with rhinestones. And then it just zooms in on Queen's face and she goes, you raggedy bitch. I think that is the line.
Nick
So in this movie, Viola's doing drag and you still aren't.
Bob the Drag Queen
And what are you doing? You want me to say it?
Nick
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
They.
Mateo Lane
Shut the fuck up.
Nick
Okay, so what's your ending?
Bob the Drag Queen
It's not the ending of the film.
Mona X Change
It's the ending. Yeah.
Nick
Or the climactic moment.
Mona X Change
And then so. And then Viola comes into the room. She sees that she's made this.
Nick
No, no, not the red shoes. I thought we were all coming up with our own version.
Mona X Change
Well, you mean. Wait, what?
Nick
So not the Red shoes. How would you. What's your climactic moment of her finding out Viola killed her husband?
Mona X Change
Right, Right. They're in this car because they're on a hunch that it's something. So they're in the car together and they're going to the thing. And they're driving. They're speeding down this highway. And then Viola said something out of her mouth. She says, they're talking about Harry. His name was Harry. And she said. She says something to the effect of when Harry. Something that alludes to. She was there in Harry's last moments.
Bob the Drag Queen
And, like, she could have not known.
Mona X Change
It's possible. She could not know. It's possible. Truth. And then Queen Latifah's like, what? And then they look, and then Queen Latifah is riding the backseat because one of her daughters is in the front seat. So then when she says that, Viola looks in the rearview mirror and Queen Latifah catches her eyes in the rearview mirror. And Viola realizes. She slips up and she tries to kill all of them. She tries to turn the car off the bridge, crash.
Bob the Drag Queen
Cirillo, the killer style.
Mateo Lane
Yes.
Mona X Change
And then Gorilla, the killer. And the car is now going underwater. And now they're trying to get out of the vehicle altogether.
Nick
So I think Viola's been helping Queen Latifah the whole movie, try to find the killer, yada, yada, yada, Throw her off the pace. And then all of a sudden, the climactic moment, they're all home Talking about it or something. And one of the kids says something regarding seeing Viola because they kind of were witness to. Right before the father died and seeing something. And the room goes silent. And Queen turns and sees Viola, and Viola turns and looks at the kid and goes, no. And goes, I wish you hadn't done that. It turns black. And the next scene, the kid is tied up and Queen is tied up, and Viola's pacing around and going, it didn't have to come to this.
Bob the Drag Queen
Hey, she's got a bunch of needles.
Nick
Shut up. She goes, it didn't have to come to this. And then Queen, she takes the. Whatever she jammed in her mouth and she takes it out and she goes, we could have just blamed this on anyone else. It didn't have to come to this. And Queen goes, you can kill my husband. You've killed our friendship. But what you will never kill is my child. And she breaks free and drops. Kick Viola.
Mona X Change
That was the fucking wwe.
Bob the Drag Queen
She hits on the Stone Cold Stunner
Nick
and she does the tombstone pile, drives Viola right into the glass coffee table.
Bob the Drag Queen
All right, we must have done this episode, but we have to because we. We got to keep.
Mona X Change
Yeah, because we have.
Bob the Drag Queen
We have. We have a guest waiting. Nick. Where can they find you? What's going on? How can people support you?
Nick
I have a podcast with Mateo Lane called I never liked you that you can watch on YouTube or anywhere you get podcasts.
Bob the Drag Queen
What is it coming out, Jacob? Like, how far from. I mean, before the show? 23rd. Oh,
Mona X Change
so you just did your shows.
Nick
How.
Mona X Change
Then the two. Two sold out shows. How do you feel?
Bob the Drag Queen
Were they great?
Nick
They were great. Okay, but what if something happens? I don't want to say that they were great, and then all of a sudden.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think anyone. No one's gonna be
Mateo Lane
to.
Nick
Okay, ask me again.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, we're using the clip we use. Thank you for coming on our podcast.
Nick
Find me on my socials. Thank you.
Mona X Change
Nick Smith.
Nick
09. Yeah, the year I was born.
Mona X Change
All right, bye, everybody.
Bob the Drag Queen
Bye.
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In this lively, rollicking episode of Sibling Rivalry, Monét X Change and Bob The Drag Queen welcome comedian Nick Smith, joined at times by Mateo Lane, for a rollercoaster conversation that hits everything from fashion shade and drag queen habits to gay foot fetishes, drug slang, cruise culture, viral internet faux-pas, friendships, and the wildest Oscar campaign brainstorm you're likely to hear. Ostensibly, the episode’s theme is Nick’s hilarious ignorance about meth, but the conversation spins off in every direction – a true testament to the chaotic energy and razor-sharp wit of this queer comedy juggernaut.
Complimenting Nick:
“You have very nice feet.” – Monét (01:41)
Gay foot stuff:
“You're the only friend that compliments me, actually.” – Nick (01:54)
On drag motivation:
“I do drag when I feel like doing drag.” – Bob (05:53)
“I did drag because I Felt like it.” – Monét (05:58)
Online outrage and jokes gone wrong:
“Welcome to the Internet, Nick. The Internet. Famously the place where all the information lives, but none of the nuance exists.” – Bob (08:08)
Roleplay Spiral:
“What do you mean something, Jacob?” – Bob (17:23)
On never changing his mind about kids/pets:
“Whenever you're growing up and you're always like, I don't want kids. And people are like, when you get older, you'll change your mind. I've never changed my mind about animals, kids, none of that.” – Nick (23:26)
Nick’s take on religion:
“I believe that you all believe this is real.” (24:08)
Central meth moment:
“I didn’t realize you could smoke Meth.” – Nick (26:01)
Party and drug code confusion:
“These people all can't be playing tennis.” – Nick (32:26)
Meth hookup horror:
“...he gets off on the next floor and is trying to. So he's, like, chasing me up and down the stairs in this building. And I had to hide in a janitor closet for like, 25 minutes for him.” – Monét (33:53)
Iconic Oscar script reading:
“You raggedy bitch.” – Bob (51:16)
“You can kill my husband. You’ve killed our friendship. But what you will never kill is my child.” – Nick (54:05)
The episode is pure Sibling Rivalry: equal parts sharp-witted, irreverent, and deeply queer. The hosts seamlessly mix earnestness and shade, pushing each other’s (and their guests’) buttons while keeping the laughter flowing. Recurring self-referential bits and tangents (“use your imagination!”) keep it improvisatory and meta. Nothing is off-limits, but even the raunchiest jokes are spun with love and community awareness.
If you’ve never listened to Sibling Rivalry, this episode is a crash course: rapid-fire shade, radical honesty, inside jokes, and laughter so infectious you’ll feel like part of the friend group. You’ll learn more than you ever wanted to about drag culture, gay party slang, and the code-switching required to survive both the internet and hookup culture – plus come away with a Queen Latifah Oscar campaign pitch for the ages.
Episode credits: Hosts – Bob The Drag Queen, Monét X Change; Guest – Nick Smith; Special guest appearances – Mateo Lane