Is Janet Jackson A Glorified Backup Dancer PART 1

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – "Is Janet Jackson A Glorified Backup Dancer? PART 1"

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry (with Studio71 & Confetti Cannon)
Episode Air Date: February 27, 2026
Featuring: Bob The Drag Queen, Jasmine W., Amber Wallen
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Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry features Bob the Drag Queen guesting with comedian hosts Jasmine W. and Amber Wallen for an uproarious discussion centered on relationships, performance, comedy careers, and a cheeky debate about Janet Jackson’s legacy. The trio offers an unfiltered, hilarious, and honest conversation, blending real talk with their trademark quick wit and chemistry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dating Styles & Relationship Labels

Timestamps: 00:30–07:00

• The hosts and Bob share their approaches to intimate relationships, with candid talk about labels like “partner” vs. “boyfriend/girlfriend.”
  • Bob: Prefers "partner" over "boyfriend," saying, “I don’t feel like any of my partners is my boyfriend. Although I’m not against being someone’s boyfriend.” (00:40)
  • Jasmine explains her date-to-relationship process, requiring a love declaration before becoming official, admitting she never rejected such a proposal. (00:54)
  • Amber describes playing “hardball” for about a month, enjoying the chase before giving in: “That first month or so, I gotta be like, well, we’ll see. And then after that, I’m putty in your hands.” (03:31)
  • Bob confesses he’s direct about affection, saying “I am obsessed,” and not playing hard to get. (03:18)

2. Emotional Expression and Zodiac Vibes

Timestamps: 06:00–08:00

• Discussion on how zodiac signs manifest in their personalities.
  • Jasmine notes Bob’s “Cancer vibes” — emotional, but not a big crier. (06:23).
  • Bob admits he cries at moments of deep happiness or gratitude, feeling like “one of God’s favorites.” (07:06, 07:23)
  • The trio talks about believing things will just work out for them, highlighting their “main character energy.” (08:00–13:19)

3. Attention and Upbringing: Comedy, Popularity & Bombs

Timestamps: 08:11–14:00, 21:32–26:46

• Bob reveals he loves attention at comedy shows and wants comedians to engage with him from the stage, but not as “Bob the Drag Queen.” (08:19–09:16)
• The hosts reflect on their school experiences: Jasmine was step team captain but didn’t consider herself popular; Bob was known for rap battles and drama club, and Amber jokes about line-leader status from kindergarten.
• They each describe their own “bomb stories” on stage:
  • Jasmine recounts dying at a show of 100 older white folks in Ohio: “Dead silent…this man in the front just looked at me…he’s about to die anyway, child, who cares?” (22:52)
  • Amber tells of a flop in Atlanta performing for an older Black crowd, realizing her material didn’t suit the audience. “Like, a 60+ audience is not hearing your, like, female masturbation jokes.” (24:33)
  • Bob claims: “I have never bombed in my 17 years of comedy.” (26:42)
  • Notable: Bob once got booed for calling Janet Jackson a “glorified backup dancer” at a gay bar — a joke he immediately walked back. (27:56)

4. The “Glorified Backup Dancer” Debate: Janet, Paula, JLo

Timestamps: 27:56–33:47

• Bob’s (infamous) tongue-in-cheek take triggers discussion and mock outrage:
  • “I said that Janet Jackson is a glorified backup dancer, but I don’t believe that. Right. I was just saying I don’t think Janet Jackson is that great. But I…” (27:56)
  • The group reflects on whether anyone fits that label; Bob lands on Paula Abdul (then hesitates), and then Jennifer Lopez as someone who “was literally a backup dancer” before becoming a pop star (31:15).
  • Recognition that Janet Jackson is, in fact, a great actor and pop star; Bob reiterates: “I love Janet Jackson.” (33:10–33:15)
• Favorite Janet songs mentioned: “I Get So Lonely,” “Scream” with Michael (33:59–34:05).

5. Main Character Energy, Resolutions, and Working Under Pressure

Timestamps: 13:09–21:08

• The trio discusses whether “main characters” need New Year’s resolutions:
  • Bob: “Things just work out for me. I said to my friends…they get annoyed…I get to the airport exactly one hour before the plane takes off.” (13:20–13:29)
  • Bob doesn’t make traditional resolutions but sets yearly goals: “I want to be on Broadway. I want to finish this book.” (16:04)
  • Amber’s unique resolution: “I just hope I can’t have a yeast infection this year…I cannot get pregnant pregnant this year.” (16:35)
  • Jasmine focuses on increasing her audience/followers as a creative goal. (17:49)
  • Discussion about motivation, perfectionism, and using deadlines to inspire project completion.

6. Pick-Me Culture and Relationship Discourse Online

Timestamps: 37:19–41:10

• Debate over an internet viral clip of a woman bragging about doing “wifey” things to get engaged (“They told me not to make his lunch…not to pay for dates…”)
  • Jasmine: “I want to be chosen so bad. I value being a wife…I need a husband so bad…that’s what I see when I hear somebody say that.” (37:27)
  • Amber criticizes such messaging as fodder for toxic male podcasts: “Just hate when we put more content out there…this is a high value woman. Y’all need to pay for our dates.” (40:48)
  • Bob: “If you want to be subservient, fine…but convincing others that is the way, that…is where it gets weird.” (39:17)
  • Jasmine adds, “The problem I have is she got the prize and the ring being the prize…instead of being like, oh this is just something you do for your partner…It’s like, I did it to get this, and you bitches are still single is what I have a problem with.” (40:21–40:40)

7. Food Stamps & Class Conversation

Timestamps: 41:22–45:01

• The group discusses childhood experiences with food stamps as a response to male internet reactions to SNAP benefit cuts.
  • Bob: “If you take any joy in someone losing their food stamps…you are the lowest of the low.” (42:08)
  • All agree that shaming people on benefits is cruel, and share nostalgia about the practicalities and social systems of food stamp trading in their communities.

8. Food Preferences: Shellfish, Ranch, and Dipping Debates

Timestamps: 45:23–49:44

• Bob reveals a controversial take: hating shellfish (“I don’t like lobster, crab, crawfish, shrimp, scallops…”). (45:37)
• Detailed and hilarious discussion over dipping everything in ranch or blue cheese, and the emotional importance of these condiments to Bob (“Every bite of my burger is dipped in ranch. My fries are dipped in ranch…Every bite is dipped in Ranch.” (48:26))
• Jasmine quips: “You sound like you need ranch before you suck a dick, right?” (48:50)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bob (on being a “pick me” at shows): “When I’m at a comedy show, I want the comedian to talk to me. I want to be involved, and I want people to look at me.” (08:24)
• On main character energy: “When things go my way, I’m like, why wouldn’t they?…I just have always believed that things would go my way, so I’m never really shocked.” (07:06–07:38)
• On resolutions: “I don’t normally make New Year’s resolutions, but I do have goals. I have things I want to do in that year.” (15:52)
• Bomb Confessions: “I have never bombed in my 17 years of comedy.” (26:55)
• The Janet Jackson moment: “I said that Janet Jackson is a glorified backup dancer, but I don’t believe that…They started booing me. Boo!” (27:56)
• Relationship performativity: “I did it to get this, and you bitches are still single is what I have a problem with.” — Jasmine, on engagement ‘pick me’ culture (40:21)
• On food stamps: “If you take any joy in someone losing their food stamps…you are the lowest of the low.” — Bob (42:08)
• Ranch devotion: “Every bite is dipped in ranch. My chicken sandwich, ranch. Chicken tenders, ranch. Every bite is dipped in Ranch.” — Bob (48:26)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Relationships & Love Languages: 00:30–07:00
• Zodiac & Main Character Vibes: 06:00–13:19
• Comedy Bomb Stories: 21:32–26:46
• Janet Jackson & Backup Dancer Debate: 27:56–33:47
• Resolutions & Perfectionism: 13:09–21:08
• Pick-Me Viral Engagement Video: 37:19–41:10
• Food Stamps & Class: 41:22–45:01
• Food Preferences (Shellfish/Ranch): 45:23–49:44

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Tone and Language

The tone is lively, irreverent, self-deprecating, and brimming with inside jokes and personal anecdotes. The hosts and Bob employ a blend of sharp honesty and silliness, never shy to lovingly roast each other or themselves.

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In Closing

This episode is a classic Sibling Rivalry riot—rich with cultural commentary, comedy confessions, and debates destined to spark listeners’ own discussions. If you love high-energy banter, brutally honest reflections, and drag queen-caliber shade, this episode delivers.

To continue the conversation, find Part 2 on the Purse First Studios YouTube channel and all major podcast platforms.

Transcript

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hey, y'. All. It's me, Bob the drag Queen, and you're about to hear part one of an episode of Quit Playing, featuring me. It's hosted by my friends who are comedians, mothers, and certified mess stirrers, Jasmine W. And Amber Wallen. They mix real life talk, sharp takes, and a whole lot of foolery. When the three of us get together, you already know where it's going to go. It goes all the way there. And if you want to hear the conversation finish, check out part two on the Purse First Studios YouTube channel and wherever you listen to your podcast. All right, let's get into this.

[Jasmine W.]

Hey, y'.

[Amber Wallen]

All. Welcome back to Quit Playing with Jasmine and Amber. We are comedians and mothers. I'm a white fiend.

[Jasmine W.]

And I'm a baby mama.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm a partner. Y. I'm someone's partner. I, I, I think that. Do I. How do I feel? So I don't feel like any of my partners is my boyfriend. Although I'm not against being someone's boyfriend.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I feel like I'd be like, oh, this is my. This is my partner.

[Jasmine W.]

Do you ask people to be in a relationship with you? Like, do you? Because I say the people, like, when I date, I date men. And I say, you have to express your love for me and then ask me to be your girlfriend.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's so cute. I love that. How often do you say no?

[Jasmine W.]

I've never said no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because if you told me, express your love and then ask me to date and I do it, you go, I'm good. I'd be like, this was a setup. It was a setup.

[Jasmine W.]

One time, someone asked me after two weeks, and I said, no, I just got out of a relationship. I already said that. And then two weeks later, I said, we spent every day together anyway. And then I was like, let's just do it. And he was like, okay. And then I ended up marrying that person.

[Amber Wallen]

And we're divorced now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you're married for a long time, though.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

Y' all were.

[Jasmine W.]

But, yeah, that person asked me too soon, and I said no. But then I can't backtrack. It's like, honey, we might as well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sometimes when we end up dating, we're. We're just like, you know what? We're. We're dating, right?

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, it's like, I feel like it's happening. And then as far as, like, we should just start dating. Right? Like, this. This makes sense. Like, we are talking so much. We're spending so much time together. Weird. There was one guy where it was like, it was like a situationship for a really long time. And he kind of made it clear that the situationship was really upsetting him. That it was like a situation.

[Jasmine W.]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And. And then I was like, okay, I hear that. And I. And I'm gonna do my part. I had also just gotten out of relationship.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But with, with Jacob and Tao, we were kind of just like, yeah, we're definitely, we're definitely just gonna start dating.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah, for sure.

[Amber Wallen]

How long was the situationship?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe two, two and a half, three years.

[Jasmine W.]

That is a long time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We were situationing. We were situationing for like four months maybe, maybe longer.

[Amber Wallen]

Got you. I thought after two years, it was a will.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No will.

[Amber Wallen]

She won't. She like, God damn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. We were situationing for a couple of months and then we were like, we should go ahead and, you know, make

[Jasmine W.]

it, make it a little bit more official.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah. Make it a piece. I'm a little, I'm, I'm a little less formal with stuff. Like, even, Even though I love yous, I'm gonna tell you right now, Monet thinks it's crazy. I hit the I love yous off rip.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, yeah, off course, rip.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, we're gonna go ahead and start saying I love you. We're not gonna make a big deal out the first time. Like, he finally said, I ain't. No, I'm just gonna go and start saying I love you.

[Jasmine W.]

How quick do you say I love you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A week.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, I'm kind of like that too. At one point I was like, man, we in pre love. He's like, we're in love. I'm like, damn, it's been six days. Give it a minute. I said we in pre love. Now chill.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I make it clear. I be like, I am obsessed.

[Jasmine W.]

Oh, I love saying I'm obsessed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I, I, I don't, I don't be like, I, I don't play no hard to get. I'd be like, I am so into you. Woo.

[Jasmine W.]

That's how I am.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, I like to play a little hardball.

[Jasmine W.]

Really?

[Amber Wallen]

Nah, it's, it's, it's a front. I, I don't be doing it for long, but that first month or so, I gotta be like, well, we'll see. And then after that, I'm putting your hands.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What you gonna do when you play hardball and the ball bounce back too hard and you don't. And now you can't catch it.

[Amber Wallen]

It has happened on the occasion. Yeah, but like a Month ain't that long. Now, I'm not saying I'm not having sex with you. I am saying for 30 days, we are sleeping together, hanging out. But I'm gonna make you think, like, it could go either way. Yeah, it could go either way. But after. After a month, you know, like, okay, I'm really interested in you because sometimes think. I mean, you know, I've been married to somebody for, like, 10 years.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But somebody, you know, somebody the love of my life. I've been married to somebody.

[Amber Wallen]

I've been married. But, But I'm saying when I was in the game, like, I might sort of. I will be hanging out with you for about 30 days and. Hanging out.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

And it could. It could go either way.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I, Yeah, I, I, I lay all my cards on the table. And anyone that I've ever dated, they knew immediately. Yeah, immediately.

[Amber Wallen]

Like on the first date.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Second date, probably.

[Amber Wallen]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Jasmine W.]

I don't play hard to get. Like, if we're dating, I'm. And I really like you. I'm gonna say I really like you. I'm gonna say I'm obsessed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I'm obsessed.

[Jasmine W.]

Yes. I'm gonna say I'm so into it. Call me Tamiya, honey.

[Amber Wallen]

Y' all be loved by me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Yeah. Well, I mean, maybe a little bit, but. But I also will say if you play hard to get with me. I am so insecure in my desire to be, like, loved.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That I'm like, you don't want. Like, you made it clear you don't want me. If, if you were slightly. If I think you are not into me, then I'd be like, never mind, never mind. Never mind. Never mind. Then. Never mind.

[Amber Wallen]

No, it's just, I'm taking it as it goes. It's like, we. We could be a couple dates in. And then I'm like, oh, I like this. It's like a job. Like, would you get on the second day of your job, be like, this is the greatest job I ever had. I'm like, let me pull it out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all would like, I love this place.

[Amber Wallen]

Let now let me get a paycheck or two. Let me make sure I got consistency with the texting, with the talking, with the courtship, and. And then you got me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'd be the job. I'd be like, I wanna retire from this place.

[Amber Wallen]

No. Hell, that's right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all got me hook, line and sinker. I wanna move up in this company.

[Amber Wallen]

Exactly.

[Jasmine W.]

And that's what an employer wants to hear.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Amber Wallen]

They need to Know I can leave at any moment. At any moment. So give me the best day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is crazy. What side are you? I don't even believe in sign.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, Pisces. We have the same birthday.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's right.

[Amber Wallen]

March 16th.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that's right. And I'm. And I'm dating a Pisces, and my best friend is a Pisces.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, I'll be at the house.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Jacob are both Pisces.

[Amber Wallen]

I'd be like, ben, let me see what you got this week. I mean, you never know, even with the two damn kids, but you never know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Zodiacs.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah, I believe some. Not in, like, for everybody, but I do sometimes, like, meet some people who are a certain sign, and I'm like, okay, I can see some things that are very cancer about you or very Sagittarius about you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do I give cancer vibes?

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah, you do, because you're so. You know what? Remind. What makes me think you're a cancer? Because my mom's a cancer. You're emotional, but you're not a huge crier. Yeah, no, but you have. You're sensitive, but it doesn't mean that you're gonna be boohooing and crying all the time, but you are taking things to heart, and that's how my mom is, and she's a cancer, so that kind of reminds me of that.

[Amber Wallen]

So you think you don't cry a lot?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, No, I don't. I mean, I cry, but not a. Not a ton. No, I don't cry that much. Like when I cried a movie, like,

[Amber Wallen]

even tears of joy. Tears of joy and sadness.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sometimes I will. I will say there are some times when I would just be like, oh, I'm so happy right now that I might cry. I might let out a little tear there. There are moments where I think to myself, I cannot believe things are going so well. This is kind of gaggy.

[Amber Wallen]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Things are really working out for me. I just have always believed that things would go my way, so I'm never really shocked when things.

[Amber Wallen]

Right. I was like, you still be shocked if something's happening to you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm telling right now, I am not religious, but if I was, I know for a fact I am one of God's favorites.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If there is a God and she's looking down, I'm easily one of her favorites. Easily.

[Jasmine W.]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah. For sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow. But. But that being said, I am. I. When things go my way, I'm like, why wouldn't they? I. I got to be honest.

[Jasmine W.]

There.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There Are times, like, pre fame where I was like, this is the part that doesn't make sense. I can't believe I'm.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, my gosh. I've been the same level Del.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why am I waiting in line? This does not make sense. Why am I standing in the club and no one knows me? This is crazy.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, I've been that. Like, I'm sure we all have. Like, that's why we're all talking to each other. Cause even in kindergarten, when I wasn't chosen to be the damn line leader, I'm like, this isn't right. It's me every week. I know I was the line leader last week, but it should be me this week as well. I'm a leader of the line.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do y' all, like, attention?

[Jasmine W.]

Oh, yeah. We're standup comedians.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, when I go to a. Can I take one of my talk to traits?

[Jasmine W.]

Okay.

[Amber Wallen]

Just one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I only have one. When I'm at a comedy show, I want the comedian to talk to me.

[Jasmine W.]

Do you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Amber Wallen]

How you been? Oh, my gosh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I won't do anything to get the attention. I'm not a heckler. But whenever the comedian is looking at people talking like, please, please, please choose me.

[Amber Wallen]

You're a participator, and I'm not gonna

[Bob the Drag Queen]

be trying to tell jokes. I'm not gonna be trying to one up you. But I just. I want to be involved, and I want people to look at me.

[Jasmine W.]

You're a pick me.

[Amber Wallen]

You're a pick me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe.

[Amber Wallen]

Do you position yourself so that that will happen as well? Like, near the front?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

People I'm with don't want to sit in the front. I will sit in the front, but most of the folks I know do not want to sit in the front. Like, we went to that show at the Soho House.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I kept being like, oh, my God, I hope they talk to me.

[Amber Wallen]

Really?

[Jasmine W.]

And your body. To me, your body language does not give that thought.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I don't want to look. Because I don't want to look too eager. I don't want to.

[Amber Wallen]

Every other celebrity doesn't want to be called out there. Like, I'm trying to be low key to that. I don't want them to be like,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

it's about the drag queen. I want you to just be a random audience participant. I don't. Okay. When I do not want someone like, Bob the Drag queen's in the house.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

Okay.

[Jasmine W.]

That's different.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want. What's your name? Caldwell. And what do you do? I run a production Company. And are you in a relationship? Yeah, I'm in a relationship. That's what I want. I want to be the person that the comedian does crowd work with.

[Amber Wallen]

Yes, but they don't know you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But they don't know me. Not as. Not literally. Not like, give it up about the drag queen, but, like, I want to be the person being asked questions. And I think I have this theory that audience members are. We're very submissive.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Audience members want to submit to the person on stage.

[Jasmine W.]

Sounds sexy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, a little bit.

[Amber Wallen]

They want to be told what to

[Bob the Drag Queen]

do, and I want to have that person be in control, and I want to be on the right. I don't want to take over. I don't want to steer the ship, but I want to be your. Your first captain or your second captain or your second command or whatever. I want to. I mean, I was that as a kid, too. The teacher. I was. I was the kid.

[Amber Wallen]

A brown noser. Teacher's pet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. I was the kid who was like. She said, be quiet.

[Amber Wallen]

She said, hush, y'. All. But then the teacher be. I don't need your help.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, very.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, y'. All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ms. W said, Be quiet.

[Amber Wallen]

Looks like you need my help, actually.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I hung out with the. With the lunch ladies.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, yeah. The lunch ladies were always fun. Ms. Sandra.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You. You. You didn't hang out with the lunch ladies. You too cool. You was a cool girl.

[Jasmine W.]

I was not. I don't think I was cool.

[Amber Wallen]

You give cheerleader.

[Jasmine W.]

I was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. You give popular girl down.

[Jasmine W.]

I was not very popular. I was captain of the step team.

[Amber Wallen]

How is that not the baddest steppers?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, do all three of us step.

[Amber Wallen]

We need to be the quit playing steppers?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't know you stabbed me either, Jazz.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah, I was captain of the step team for two years, honey, when I was a junior and a senior.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God.

[Amber Wallen]

And you weren't popular?

[Jasmine W.]

I don't think I was. I was popular amongst the black kids, but, like, I went to a predominantly white.

[Amber Wallen]

That's all that matters, though, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was not popular amongst the black kids. That's how I went to a black school.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was. I. I was known. And I think I was pretty respected because I was the president of the drama club. I was. I was very funny. And I also used to do rap battles in the courtyard at lunch, so I got really popular because I was really, really good at rap battles.

[Jasmine W.]

What? I did not know that the rap

[Bob the Drag Queen]

battles, they weren't really about how well you can rap it was just. It was really. It was just roasting.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah. Who can make who laugh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Roasting.

[Amber Wallen]

That's who wins every battle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was roast poetry. You know what I mean? And I was like, oh, I can roast someone easily. I could easily make fun of you in a clever, you know, Shell Silverstein little rhyme scheme. So I got really popular with that. And then. So then that's how I gained the respect of kind of the cool kids. Because it wasn't the drama club.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

The drama club. Was it bringing that heat, bringing that fire.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The band in my high school. The band. The drum major.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Especially with, like, near the drum line era.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I'm. I'm 39 years old, so I was in high school when Drum line came out.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah.

[Jasmine W.]

Oh, yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So they filmed it in Atlanta too.

[Amber Wallen]

No way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I was actually in the audience. So in. In the Georgia Dome, which doesn't even exist anymore, sitting in the Georgia Dome while they filmed a drum line. Our drum line went from like 33 people to 150. We had a 150 person drama line in my high school shout out to We2 Swin. We2 was our drum major.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she was so popular at the. The band. There was I. The idea of a band geek didn't make sense to me because the band were the coolest kids at our school.

[Amber Wallen]

Halftime is game time. That's right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it not like that for y'? All?

[Jasmine W.]

No.

[Amber Wallen]

Well, drumline came out. I guess we would have been in middle school.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah. But I mean, I went to all white school, so the. The. The entire band was, for the most part, was white.

[Amber Wallen]

I would say my school demographics were like 50 50. But the band was very black, though. Really?

[Jasmine W.]

I wish I would have seen more representation in the band in my school, but no.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah. But I feel like drumline was definitely, like the impetus of that, because that's when the drum major had to not just be like, you know, that was like the back band. Yes. So fun.

[Jasmine W.]

Okay, well, we're a bunch of main characters. I want to ask y', all, do main characters make New Year's resolutions? Because things always work out for you. So do you need a resolution?

[Amber Wallen]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I always. If things always work, things just work out for me. I said to my friends, something get annoyed. I'm like, things just work out for me.

[Jasmine W.]

I say that too, but as an affirmation, too, and a self reminder. Things always work out for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There would be times where because I do this thing that my. My friends think is crazy, I get to the airport exactly one hour before the plane takes off.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, before it takes off. Not before boarding.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Before it takes off. Yeah, so. So about 30 minutes before boarding is when I get to the airport. I am not. You're not about to catch me at the airport for two hours, right? No, I'm at the airport for an hour. I'm at the airport for an hour sitting around the airport.

[Jasmine W.]

No, but wait, you have. You obviously have TSA PreCheck and clear.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I got. I got clear. Whisper, whoosh, anything.

[Amber Wallen]

And you fly in child free. That's why you can do that with the damn kids in tow. You gotta be there three hours early.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's fair.

[Jasmine W.]

You're a drag. How many bags are you checking?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

5.

[Jasmine W.]

That's. You pushing it. That's ridiculous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, what?

[Jasmine W.]

I make it five bags in exactly one hour because you know you have to get your bags checked. Exactly one hour before, baby, I be

[Bob the Drag Queen]

at the fucking gate. Sir wedding. I mean, foot tapping and be like. And then there's always one person in front of me taking so long.

[Amber Wallen]

So long.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But then I make it. And the gate person always goes, you just made it. And I just go, of course I did.

[Amber Wallen]

I ain't riding with you. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've got to the point where even me and Rob, who travel, Rob goes separately. Because Rob's like, this is too much.

[Amber Wallen]

You stressing me out. Yeah. I want to be in the Sky Lounge with my coffee. Multiple bathroom break. I want to go get snacks. I have to get there early.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I swing by the Sky Lounge. I swing by to grab a snack on the go. I also am. When I tell you I'm asleep on the plane.

[Amber Wallen]

I mean, I can sleep on the plane.

[Jasmine W.]

Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can. I can't not.

[Amber Wallen]

You want me to sleep on a plane?

[Jasmine W.]

Not usually.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel bad for a 20 minute flight. The moment the wheel.

[Amber Wallen]

Well, unless you fly JetBlue, I don't know when it's coming out. Let me ask you this. Have you ever missed a flight? Because that's what changed the game for me. Oh, you've missed flights because you were late.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I once missed the flight.

[Amber Wallen]

Right. Because I thought everything happened.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was. I was. Missed the connection. I was already in the airport, but I was in the Sky Lounge in Minneapolis and I was just on the phone with Trixie Mattel. Never. I was on the phone with Trixie Mattel and then we were just talking and then I said, oh, I just missed my flight.

[Jasmine W.]

That's ridiculous. What. What happened after that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They just rebooked me for the next flight. So I just got on the next

[Jasmine W.]

flight, not you at the airport for two hours.

[Amber Wallen]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But to answer your question, I don't normally make New Year's resolutions. Uh, but I. But I do have goals. I have goals for the year, though.

[Jasmine W.]

Okay, you do?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I have things I want. Things I want to do in that year.

[Jasmine W.]

To me, what's the difference between that and a resolution?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think a resolution is like, I want to be a better person. I want to work on, connect, communicating with my friends more. I want to be better at responding to emails. But I'm like, I want to be on Broadway. Yeah, there it is. I want to be on Broadway. I want to finish this book. I want to get the. I want to finally get my wall painted in my home. I'm going to get that wall painted.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm going to. I'm going to, you know, finally finish stoning that garment.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That kind of stuff.

[Jasmine W.]

Do you make New Year's resolutions, Amber?

[Amber Wallen]

I'm laughing because I'll make them. But in my mind, sometimes I have a list of, like, I really hope this don't happen this year. And I don't know how to not make it a resolution. Like, even once I'm on stage, I was like, let's be honest about these resolutions. I just hope I just can't have a yeast infection this year. Like, I have definitely done that because I was, like, pregnant. You know, I'm like, I cannot get pregnant pregnant this year. Like, that's. I. I be thinking, I. I work last year. It did not work last year, and it did not work two years before that. But in 2026, I'm claiming that I cannot get pregnant. Well, I cannot have a baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I feel like you and Ben, one of y', all could do something to change this process.

[Amber Wallen]

I know, but we keep dilly dallying, and it's. It's on him at this point.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, first of all, they're both reversible.

[Amber Wallen]

Right, Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And apparently the one that the guys do is a really quick process.

[Amber Wallen]

Wait.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On your lunch break.

[Amber Wallen]

I know, but it's like that wall. You gotta probably come to the house. Okay. At this point, a pasta carry bag. At all.

[Jasmine W.]

Right.

[Amber Wallen]

Okay. My New Year's resolution is for my husband to get this vasectomy. Really? This has to happen? Yes. I can't. Yes.

[Jasmine W.]

Okay. What you got for my New Year's resolution? Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

Or a goal.

[Jasmine W.]

You know what I want to. I think my resolution would just be for, like, more people to, like, know Who I am and what I can do. As far as a creative, it's always something career oriented because I feel like that's what.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not.

[Jasmine W.]

That's what I care about the most.

[Amber Wallen]

But of course.

[Jasmine W.]

Of course, that's what I honestly care about the most.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's why. What if you put a number on it, though? Like, for example, like, let's say you have how many followers you got right now on the Talk?

[Jasmine W.]

Maybe like, just over on the Talk. Yeah, I lose followers every day on there. Don't tell nobody.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, really?

[Amber Wallen]

What happened?

[Jasmine W.]

Literally, I. I don't know. I'm shadow banned or something. The lose.

[Amber Wallen]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're a loser.

[Amber Wallen]

Losers.

[Jasmine W.]

I think I pissed off the government.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, when you call them guys losers, they got.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah, they do. I think maybe on Instagram, I have over, like, 325,000 or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what if you said a number? Like, by the end of 2026, you're gonna get to 800,000.

[Jasmine W.]

Oh, I do. I said numbers, too. Yeah. I think this year is, like, end of. Well, end of last year was, like, half a million.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My goal for 2026, to finish the musical.

[Amber Wallen]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna get. I. I'm trying to make sure I get Harriet Tubman live in concert as a. As a workshopable musical by the time the year ends.

[Amber Wallen]

I love that. Do y' all ever do the thing where y'. All. I do a lot of backwards planning, so I will like this. I. I don't know if I recommend this for everybody, but I will, like, book the show and then plan from there. Like, I'll be like, let me call the. Let me call the club. I'll figure out the one hour when I get there. Yeah, let me just book the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So.

[Amber Wallen]

So you'll be like, on November 26th, you booked a musical, Harriet Tubman Live at concert. It's coming to a theater, and then you'll start writing it, like. Cause nothing will get you, like, having a date.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I. So my Atlanta show where I found out me and Jazz were in Atlanta at the same time I booked that show, and they were like, do you wanna come to DJ Sale? I was like, no, I'm not doing a DJ sale. I'm doing live music. I'm doing my live music. I'm gonna have a whole show plan, outfits, choreography, everything. It's gonna be a big spectacle because I was one of the headliners. The big headliner was not Lotto.

[Jasmine W.]

It was Glorilla.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Glorilla. It was Glorilla. I booked that show. And the show was not complete, so I did. I did the reverse thing there, so.

[Jasmine W.]

But you did perform.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it was great.

[Jasmine W.]

You did live music. But what wasn't complete about the show?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, oh, when I booked it, the show was not. There was.

[Jasmine W.]

Oh, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There was no show because it'll hold

[Amber Wallen]

you accountable to finish it. Nothing makes you finish a project. Like, okay, the day is coming. I have to do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't ever do that.

[Jasmine W.]

No. They give me anxiety. I'll be like, it's canceled, everybody.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm sorry.

[Amber Wallen]

No, no. It gives you anxiety in a productive way, though, because have. No. I cannot procrastinate. Like, tickets have been purchased.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you like pressure? The pressure is getting.

[Jasmine W.]

Well, I am pressure. I like pressure, but I'm just. I. I couldn't work backwards. The pressure would be overwhelming for me. Like, I get more. I. I'm friends with y' all because after I get off the phone with y', all, after I come from meeting with y', all, y' all motivate me. Like, yes, yes, yes. I'm just not as cool, quite as well under pressure as y' all too, I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you a perfectionist?

[Jasmine W.]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what it is. I'm not.

[Amber Wallen]

I. I go back and forth. Like, I do like it to be a certain way, but nothing. I'm not going to not do it if it's not perfect.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm the queen. I'll just get it right next time.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm gonna try it. I'm a trial and error. Like, I'm going, like, I'm gonna book the date and do the thing.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

When I get off the stage, I'm gonna have a page full of notes for myself.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

But it's not gonna stop me from doing the next thing, if that makes sense. But I will always have notes for myself. Like, I would never just be like,

[Jasmine W.]

well, that was a great show.

[Amber Wallen]

Let me go to bed.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

I'll be like, let me look at the tape and stay up to 2am and try to see if I can rework and reprimise and repunch line like that. So that's a little bit of my perfection.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

But I won't not book the next date to the thing, if that makes sense.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you, you. I. I know y'. All. Y' all to. Y', all, like, put in the work, like, right. Yeah. No, y'. All. Y', all, like, y' all hustle.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah. You kind of have to. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't. To give Notes. I do give notes to myself, but I don't critique myself as much. But I do feel bad if things don't go perfectly. I just feel bad. I'll be like, oh, man, that didn't go perfectly. I get. I rate my shows 1 through 10. I kind of each show. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, you walk up, you're like. You're like, that was a 10.

[Jasmine W.]

I'm like, yeah, that was a 10.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's the lowest show you ever had?

[Jasmine W.]

Probably like a 2. But it wasn't my show. It was me in front of an audience that didn't know me.

[Amber Wallen]

And it's so funny because you probably gave it a two. But if anybody came to the show, they were like, she was the best. That was the best show.

[Jasmine W.]

No, it was a two because they didn't laugh. It wasn't that. I don't think at the end they were like, good job, honey. Keep going.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, six years. Yes. Wait, so tell me about this show, because I want to hear about everybody's last flash bomb.

[Jasmine W.]

Yes, I. Yeah, I did. I've talked about this before. I did stand up in Ohio some years back. Okay. And it was between 100 white people. Between the ages of 50 and 100.

[Amber Wallen]

Yes.

[Jasmine W.]

Yes.

[Amber Wallen]

My bomb story is very similar. Go ahead.

[Jasmine W.]

Yes. It was at this place. I forgot what city, but it was like a small city, and the people would have dinner at the restaurant, and then everybody would move to this back room to do watch comedy. So I think everybody's also full and tired and maybe a little tipsy, and they're old. And I'm talking about being a black woman, the only black woman in my workforce at the time. And they just literally, it was dead silent. Damn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is your HR days.

[Jasmine W.]

This is my HR days. Yeah. And there was a. There was a white man in the front. He was like a hundred. He just looked at me like this the whole time. I said, he about to die. Anyway, child, who cares? Yes.

[Amber Wallen]

They didn't laugh at that.

[Jasmine W.]

I thought it was hilarious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When it turned on you, he's like, I'm about to die, too. I'm down right after him while you laughing.

[Amber Wallen]

We don't like young folks in here.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah, it was. But they had a young black guy hosting, and he was telling the most corniest, like, coonish jokes, and they was just laughing. They had a. They loved him. Yeah, he panned it to them. They loved it. But that was. That show was probably a one or a two for me.

[Amber Wallen]

I did a show in March or April in Atlanta. I was Pregnant too. So I'm like, damn, girl. Pregnant about eight months.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, pregnant. Pregnant.

[Amber Wallen]

Very pregnant. Only like a quick set, but it was the same. It's just like old black folks. And it was, it was like a scene out of a movie. It was like people in there smoking cigarettes and you're like, oh, my God. And the belly did not stop the people from smoking the cigarettes. They were like, they were like, you came in here, Right. And so, you know, the. I. I'm learning better now to sort of read an audience and Course. Correct.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

Because a 60 plus audience is not hearing your like, female masturbation jokes.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

Like, no matter how funny they are, they're just not like. I was like, I got so many jokes about my dad, I should have done those, you know?

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

So it's just like in the moment, but sometimes you'll. You'll like commit to what you brought and then you're like, damn, okay, maybe another one. Maybe another one. And I just kind of like panicked in my way.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

Like, I still was up there saying the jokes.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

But I. At one point, I think I even made a. A tick tock joke. Horrible. I really wasn't reading the crowd and I said at one point, I was like, this is more of a VHS tape crowd. What did they say? They were like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, I said, more eight track show.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, they. They were warming up. It wasn't horrible, but it was not good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

Like, the point is to make people laugh.

[Jasmine W.]

What would you rate it, 1 through 10?

[Amber Wallen]

I would say maybe a 3 or a 4. I only say that because it's funny, because when I got off the stage, the host said, well, now that we got, you know, I'm the only female in the lineup. Now that we got her out the way, we can do some real comedy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh.

[Amber Wallen]

And then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my. That's.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Crazy.

[Amber Wallen]

Well, what's crazier than that is he said that and everybody else flopped after me too. So are we doing real comedy or not? Right. I sat in the audience, I was like, where's the real comedy? Why did you say that? Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then walk back and look you in the eyes.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah, yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

And he wasn't funny. And. And none of the men after me were that like. Like, my brother came to the show. He was like, you didn't get no last. But nobody else on the bill did either.

[Jasmine W.]

Right.

[Amber Wallen]

I was like, oh, I didn't need.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't need you to remind me.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'd have been like, thank you, brother.

[Amber Wallen]

He was like, you did as good everybody else up there. He didn't have to say that part about you. He said, you. Yeah. He's like, you flop. But everybody.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Floppy.

[Amber Wallen]

Like, from what I saw, how.

[Jasmine W.]

How much can you laugh when you're going, like, your mouth is occupied?

[Amber Wallen]

Like. And I was trying to make. I was like, everybody take a shot. Y' all know I can't. They're like, why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I thought this was just round. Right, Right. I thought she had a hernia.

[Amber Wallen]

I was like, oh, y' all just thought I was fat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I gotta be honest. I. No comic believes when I tell. When I say this, but it's just the truth. And they don't like when I say that. I have never bombed in my. I have been doing comedy for 17 years. Never, ever.

[Amber Wallen]

Every joke was a banger. I didn't say every joke was a knee slapper.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But every show, every set was good. I've had jokes that didn't land within a set, but I have never, ever gone off stage and not gotten laughs ever. I have gotten booed before for an opinion.

[Jasmine W.]

Oh, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, I remember. I remember one time a gay bar, like, turned on me. Like, they. They wanted to throw me out of

[Jasmine W.]

the building for saying what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I want them. I'm afraid to say it.

[Jasmine W.]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I will say it. I want you guys to know it was a joke. I do not hold this opinion. I was just trying to get a laugh.

[Jasmine W.]

I don't even think I want you to say it. No, Moto, I.

[Amber Wallen]

Okay, you want to say it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't. I don't. I don't mind saying it. But I want you to know that this is not my opinion. I was just making a joke in my 20s because I wanted to laugh, because it is not how I feel.

[Jasmine W.]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're all clear on that.

[Jasmine W.]

Yes.

[Amber Wallen]

This part, that's going to get clipped and take it out of context right here. Go ahead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said that Janet Jackson is a glorified backup dancer, but I don't believe that. Right. I was just saying I don't think Janet Jackson is that great. But I.

[Amber Wallen]

At a gay club.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said that at a gay bar. I don't believe that.

[Jasmine W.]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just thought that someone might think the joke was funny. No one did. They started booing me. Boo. And I said, okay, whoa, whoa. I was kidding. I was kidding. I love. I genuinely love Janet Jackson.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just told this joke. I did. But I did win them back over.

[Amber Wallen]

You were like, let's just see. Let's just See, let's just throw anything to the wall.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I won them back over. She's not jazz mad at me.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, somebody. I mean, somebody did just crash that car.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Janet Jackson, I was just making.

[Amber Wallen]

I guess we gotta think about what was the context of the situation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The context was I was doing this thing where you asked the audience what song you want me to front. So I do this big mega mix where I say, name an artist, and then I will do a song by that artist, and that would make comments on each artist, right? So they'll say Beyonce. And then I'll go, yes, we love Beyonce. And I'll make a joke about Texas or about. I used to make a joke about how she wrote Single Ladies when she was fully married and had all. Had all these girls out there breaking up, breaking with their man, putting their hand in their face, and she went home with her husband. Yeah, there's a joke about Beyonce. And then someone would say, Britney Spears. And she had just shaved her head, maybe. And I made a joke about that, and they would giggle about that. And then someone said, Janet Jackson. I was like, jackson, she's like a glorified backup dancer. Boom.

[Amber Wallen]

Record scratch. And you a damn dj.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said, whoa. I was just. I was kidding. I was kidding. I was kidding. I was kidding. And I was like. So then I made it up to them by doing like, five Janet. I was like, okay, I would do like, five Janet Jackson songs in a row. Which ones do y' all want to prove to you that I like her. I know her music. Yeah, I was just doing a bit. I don't have anything against Janet Jackson. I love her.

[Jasmine W.]

Well, Bob, who is. If you can think of one musician who is a glorified backup dancer, and what do you. I want you to stand by it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Paul Abdul. Ten toes down on that, didn't she?

[Jasmine W.]

What is that? Hey, now tell me, do you really. Is that her?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it's straight up. Straight up. Now tell me, do you really want to love me? Actually, no. No. I'm gonna. I'm gonna take back Paul Abdul because

[Amber Wallen]

Paul Abdul stand on it now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no. I want to give you one that I am going to stand on. Okay. Because Paul. I will say Paul Abdul changed the game for women who dance, who can become pop stars. I truly believe when it came to, like, women who can't really sing that well and what you're leading.

[Amber Wallen]

Smell what you're stepping in.

[Jasmine W.]

Jennifer Lopez.

[Amber Wallen]

So Paula. So Paula crawl. So JLo can run.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, cuz I. Cuz because Paula did I'm trying to think. Was there anyone who was, like, just a dancer who became a singer before Paul Abdul?

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like I might be too young to know better, but that feels like truly uncharted territory. Like, you can't really sing. You're just dance. And it's not like she wasn't like a provocateur. She was not any kind of crazy performance or she was just out there just dancing her ass off.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And. And singing well enough. Jennifer Lopez. Now, while I do think Jennifer Lopez is actually a better dancer than Paul Abdul was in her prime, she's not a better singer. And I do think Jennifer Lopez is literally. But she was literally a backup dancer. She was literally on Living in Living Color.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Backup dancing.

[Amber Wallen]

What about the acting?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jennifer Lopez is a good actor. I'm sorry.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lopez can act most of your pop favorites under the. Under the. Under the rug.

[Amber Wallen]

Selena will forgive her most of her crimes for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah. Made in Manhattan.

[Jasmine W.]

Yes.

[Amber Wallen]

The law. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monster in Law. Yeah. I don't know.

[Amber Wallen]

Good. The Wedding Planner.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whatever pop star you love, Jennifer Lopez is probably a better actor than her. There's one pop girl who's. I. I haven't seen her act much, but she's a great pop star. Undeniable pop star. Her acting is kind of crazy.

[Amber Wallen]

Who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kelly Rowland.

[Jasmine W.]

Oh, I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you see her in that Freddy movie? Movie?

[Jasmine W.]

No, but I saw her in the one where she was Tyler Perry.

[Amber Wallen]

It was too dark. The movie was too dark.

[Jasmine W.]

Whatever.

[Amber Wallen]

Whatever. Tungsten. I don't know what.

[Jasmine W.]

I don't even remember her performance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She called Jason a.

[Jasmine W.]

When?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jason movie. She called Jason a. And then he hit her with the machete and she flew into a tree. Y' all don't remember this?

[Amber Wallen]

She has not. She doesn't have a Big enough.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, it was scripted. She didn't.

[Amber Wallen]

It was a made sure for me to even think about her acting in that way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kelly Rowland.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm thinking, like, the dilemma.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Kelly Rowland called Jason a faggot and then he. And then he hit her with the machete and flew into the tree.

[Jasmine W.]

What year was this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

2010.

[Amber Wallen]

2000.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think maybe 2010. But you know who actually is a good actor?

[Jasmine W.]

Who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Janet Jackson.

[Jasmine W.]

Janet Jackson, of course. She's been acting since she was a child.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nutty Professor. Yeah, obviously. Good times, even. What's the top?

[Jasmine W.]

Why did I get married?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, so. Oh, so you do it? Yeah. Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Duenda Benden is a great drag name. What's your name? Duenda. Duenda Bendon.

[Amber Wallen]

Did you see Bending Command?

[Jasmine W.]

Taraji P. Henson was Janet Jackson for Halloween? Did y' all see that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't see it.

[Jasmine W.]

Oh, so good. And she did that. She reenacted that scene, and it was so. She looked just like Janet.

[Amber Wallen]

Poetic justice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just want to say one more time for the record, I love Janet Jackson.

[Amber Wallen]

Sure you do. The clip has been cut.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I will make jokes about people that I don't necessarily believe. I'm just like. Especially. Especially in my 20s. I was just like. I'm just trying to say shady stuff. Like, I wasn't actually, like, I didn't believe it. I was just like, I'm gonna say something shady about your favorite. Your fave. But yeah, that. That was probably my.

[Amber Wallen]

That's the attention of it all. Because, you know, right? What? At this level, you know, like, say it one more time for us. You already know what's gonna happen, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? What?

[Amber Wallen]

This is me recording.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. Oh, yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

Say it one more time for the listeners at home. I'm recording. Bob say terrible things about Janet Jackson.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love. We love Janet. We stay in Janet. You got a favorite Janet song or music video?

[Amber Wallen]

I mean, I love them. Maybe we'll be.

[Jasmine W.]

I Get so Lonely is probably my favorite song.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Scream with Michael Jackson.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, yeah.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah. Scary video, though.

[Amber Wallen]

Scream Nation.

[Jasmine W.]

When I was a kid, I thought it was scary.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. You was a kid. You're on Scream.

[Jasmine W.]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How much older am I?

[Jasmine W.]

You're only a few years older than

[Bob the Drag Queen]

me, But I guess five years, 15 years old.

[Jasmine W.]

You're older than my oldest brother. Not much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not by much. We did good for just a few years. But we can. But we can.

[Jasmine W.]

Okay, y', all, I have a question for y'. All.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, you want segue?

[Jasmine W.]

Yes.

[Amber Wallen]

Let's talk about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you know the creator of a segue died on a segue?

[Jasmine W.]

That's so funny. Well, that makes sense, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The creator of the segue died on a segue.

[Amber Wallen]

This is a bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Cory.

[Amber Wallen]

Corey, it's true.

[Jasmine W.]

You didn't even look it up.

[Amber Wallen]

Corey. No, because I know you saw me glitch.

[Jasmine W.]

Well, he probably wrote it everywhere.

[Amber Wallen]

He probably wrote it everywhere off a cliff.

[Jasmine W.]

Hold on.

[Amber Wallen]

This is a big.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not kidding. He rode a segue off a cliff and died on accident. Yes, the. The accident, though the inventor of Segway Dean came in is still alive. However, the owner of the Segway company at the time, Jimmy Helsdine, died in a Segway related accident in 2010.

[Jasmine W.]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So the owner of the Segway company. Not the creator of the Segway.

[Jasmine W.]

Oh, okay. Because the creator was like, he know what he doing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Isn't that crazy?

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah, that is crazy.

[Amber Wallen]

Don't drink and drive. I ain't never got on no damn Segway.

[Jasmine W.]

No.

[Amber Wallen]

Or a scooter. Nothing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's a guy in my building on a Segway. Am I gonna lie? It looks so cool. He had a. He had a trash. Yes. He took his trash out. He was zooming through the parking lot, and I was like, my God, that looks so good.

[Amber Wallen]

This is the attention seeking behavior here. Oh, my God. If I get on a segue, people go stop and be like, w. Well, I have these.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

These individual foot segues.

[Amber Wallen]

Like, TikTok. Shop with your feet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. They're two separate segues.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Baby. When I tell you, I myself.

[Jasmine W.]

Yep.

[Amber Wallen]

You didn't have to tell me that part.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sorry. You were Segwaying. Sorry.

[Jasmine W.]

Amber was segwaying. You're bad at segueing, Amber.

[Amber Wallen]

I am. Oh. On stage, I'd be like, pivot. Your new topic. I still do that. I'm like, I have no story to get us there, so why don't I just jump right in?

[Jasmine W.]

I said, let's do a segue. Really? Now tell me more, Amber.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just feel like doing a bit about cooking. Anyway, speaking of masturbating, I be like.

[Amber Wallen]

And that's what my husband said. I hate you, bitch. Pivot. So when I was in high school, I literally just say pivot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When did y' all Graduate High School? 2004.

[Jasmine W.]

07?

[Amber Wallen]

2009.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're further.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm young.

[Jasmine W.]

See, we weren't answering together because you were older than my oldest brother.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not by much, though. I have derailed the turn. Let's the ring.

[Amber Wallen]

Pivot. So it's a lady on TikTok video going viral. So she thought this was gonna be a fun night out. She gets engaged, got a big old fat ring on her hand, and her friend takes out her phone. They're all celebrating her, and she is bragging. She's like, they told me not to do his laundry. They told me not to make his lunch. They told me not to pay for dates. And look what it got me. And as you can imagine, the Internet is in a tizzy.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

And which is now, you know, overshadowing the engagement. What are initial thoughts looking at this video?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pick me.

[Amber Wallen]

Pick me, please.

[Jasmine W.]

I want to be chosen so bad. I value being a wife, and I need a husband so bad. Because that's what's going to add to my value. Lord, please just do this one thing for me. That's what I see when I hear somebody say that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did she get picked already, though? She's engaged.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, she was. She already picked. What do you think she.

[Amber Wallen]

I just hate videos where the underlying notion and theme is like, make his lunch ladies pay for all the dates. Girls, let him treat you any kind of way. They told me not to let him use me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They said, don't let your man cheat on you. Yeah, they said. They said, make him make sure he respects your mother. They said, make sure he knows where you are at all times.

[Amber Wallen]

They told me not to give him an allowance. They told me not to walk his dog.

[Jasmine W.]

They told me not to bail him out of jail. They told me not to forgive him

[Amber Wallen]

after cheating on me. They told me, and I did it anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Look, guys, I would say it pivoted when she was like, cuz. Cuz at first it sounded like. It sounded like she's kind of representing two different things.

[Jasmine W.]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cuz the first thing, she's like, oh, I like to do things for a man. And then she was like, and I buy his. His meals.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What did we turn. Because how do we go from. Because I feel like the. The woman who's like, I cook, I clean.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

That makes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's how I got the ring. But I cook, I clean, I pay for his things.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And that's how I got the ring.

[Amber Wallen]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Something's not.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Lego pieces aren't connecting.

[Amber Wallen]

They told me not to pay for dates. Was wicked. Like, I was kind of with her. We're like, oh, that's cute that she packed this lunch. They telling me not to pay for all the dates. They told me not to open his door for him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, they told me not to invest in his Roth ira. They told me nothing. They told me, when he works from home, don't log in and do his work for him.

[Amber Wallen]

They told me not to pay his child support. They told me I was like this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you.

[Amber Wallen]

We did tell you that.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you are a person who wants to be subservient to someone else and you're in a connection with someone who wants that go off, there's. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But trying to convince other people that that is the way and the light, that, to me is where it gets weird.

[Jasmine W.]

For sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Jasmine W.]

Because I honestly, I have, you know, I'm single, I'm dating, I have taken lunch. Like wings that I'VE made to. You know, the last person I was dating, I had. I took them to drums, actually. I took them to drums.

[Amber Wallen]

You ain't like them, huh?

[Jasmine W.]

Screaming no, like, he got the drums, and I don't eat those. Screaming oh, and what I else did she say? Told me. No, they told me the.

[Amber Wallen]

So the making of lunch with Great do is laundry.

[Jasmine W.]

Laundry. Okay, well, I've left things over my person's house, and they've left things over mine, and I did wash them, of course. And I have also, you know, if I'm in a relationship with somebody, I have paid for dates before. You know, I'm like, okay, you got the last 17 dates, honey. I should get this one right? So what I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm not really understanding, like, why she has to throw that in people's face. I think it's kind of a part of a relationship. But the, the problem that I have is, like, she got the prize and the ring being the prize to me, instead of being like, oh, this is just something you do for your partner, somebody you care about. It's like, I did it to get this, and you bitches are still single is what I have a problem with. Yes.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah. Like, I'm excited to get married to teach you bitches a lesson. Yeah, to be with the man and the marriage and the things.

[Jasmine W.]

And not because it was, like, something you wanted to do.

[Amber Wallen]

I also hate, like, she could probably have a beautiful relationship. Whatever. I just hate when we put more content out there. That is going to be the, the focal point of, like, the male podcast. They're like, see, y'. All. If y' all would just act right, like, this woman. Like, it's just like, yeah, it's like when Candace always makes something and then. And white people are like, see, y' all do think this is okay. It's like, no, no, no, she does, she does the, the general body and the general collective. So I just, I hate that she gave people one more piece of content to be like, see, this is a high value woman. Y' all need to pay for our dates.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm like, yeah, about to have a feel down.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, they gonna love this. Y' all know it was like Christmas for them getting this clip.

[Jasmine W.]

You know what else happened that kind of sparked this conversation is in 2025, when people were losing their SNAP benefits, I made a video about this.

[Amber Wallen]

Loser, losers.

[Jasmine W.]

The men got online and was like, oh, see, ladies, y' all been on food stamps. And y', all, now you're about to lose your food stamps. And now you're going to come running looking for $40 from me. You're going to come running to me looking to buy your kids, you know, fill up your refrigerator.

[Amber Wallen]

It was like I going to do now, right?

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah. Expressing excitement about people losing their SNAP benefits, particularly women, so that women would be reliant on men again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I grew up on food stamps.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I grew up in a household that have food stamps. Let me tell you right now, if you take any joy in someone losing their food stamps, whether they have children or not, as. Especially if they have children, you are the lowest of the low.

[Jasmine W.]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you are getting some happy, exciting feeling, knowing that a child is going to be hungry and therefore his mother might have to ask you.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For an opportunity to feed her child. And this is your comeuppance. You're. That is nasty work loser. That. That is. That's. That's actually crazy. There are these people online being like, I don't want to. My. My. My money should not be going to. Helping no one buy Oreos. I don't give a. If you buy Oreos. Kids should be allowed to eat Oreos. So now only. Only rich kids. So if your mom is broke, you can't have Oreos now. This is crazy.

[Jasmine W.]

And did you see the one white lady? She's like, oh, the toast.

[Amber Wallen]

Ms. Toast.

[Jasmine W.]

Yes. And she was like, what'd you do it last month? What'd you do with last month's food stamps? We ate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

It's like the stamps work like everything else. I pay. I pay October rent with rent money from October. This is a new month. That's how this works.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm obsessed with that one white lady who online who was like, who. She was. She was. She was pro, like, SNAP benefits. And she was like. She was this. I'm like, oh, I don't. I don't think my tax money should be. She goes. She goes, do you know what I spent my money on? And she held up, like, a plushie from TikTok. She's like, I bought three Labubus. You think I care if my money is going toward buying children food?

[Jasmine W.]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I bought Labuboos.

[Amber Wallen]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe this is a better use for my money than if I had it myself.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah, for sure.

[Amber Wallen]

So I just like, did y' all

[Bob the Drag Queen]

ever have food stamps growing up?

[Amber Wallen]

I didn't have them growing up, but I had him in college.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hey, Richie Rich.

[Jasmine W.]

I never.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Real Housewives of Athens.

[Jasmine W.]

My family, like, used to actually buy the food stamps off of, like, My aunt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My mom.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, yes. Yeah.

[Jasmine W.]

You know, we'd be like, hey, how much? How much you got?

[Amber Wallen]

You got.

[Jasmine W.]

You got a little. And usually back in the day, you would get double your money. So if you gave a hundred dollars, you would get.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The conversion rate was great.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah, the conversion rate.

[Amber Wallen]

Now I love those little ecosystems systems.

[Jasmine W.]

The conversion rate ain't good no more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I was a kid, we. I. So I. When I was a kid, we had the actual stamps. By the time I got to middle school, my mother didn't need anymore. But then. Then we became the buyers of the stamps.

[Amber Wallen]

Of course.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Then we came. We became the buyers of the stamps. So we had the stamps. Then we became the. My mom went to college, she became an accountant, and then she became. We became the buyers of the stamps.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because even still, you still need to. Because you're basically doubling your food. Yep.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like y'. All.

[Amber Wallen]

Who cares?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't care if you're selling your food stamps.

[Amber Wallen]

Nobody.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, why do I. Everyone is benefiting.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you sell your food stamp. Because now this lady can go buy clothes. Maybe she sold her food stamps.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because she didn't have enough money for clothes.

[Amber Wallen]

Or maybe she bought a damn crab bowl. I don't care. Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you?

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I just say what? I don't like shellfish. So everyone loves seafood boils.

[Amber Wallen]

Corey. This the reason

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the seafood boil. Like obsession.

[Jasmine W.]

Why don't you like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like any shellfish. I don't like lobster. I don't like crawfish. I don't like crab. I don't like shrimp. Scallops. I don't like shrimp. No shellfish. I did.

[Jasmine W.]

Where did this start? Popcorn shrimp.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This feels if it's all bread because the texture of shellfish.

[Amber Wallen]

It's not like you've had it too rubbery before. That's what the problem is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you eat chicken, when you eat beef, when you eat fish, the. You know what it is. You could take a piece of chicken and pull it apart and see the tears and attendance. Same with the piece of pork. But.

[Amber Wallen]

So you don't like shellfish. You can't play with it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It pulls apart and it. It just. When your teeth go through it in this weird way, it feels good.

[Amber Wallen]

You haven't had any good. You ain't had no good. Like catfish or nothing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, catfish, not shellfish. I like seafood.

[Amber Wallen]

It's shellfish. So like a good fried shrimp.

[Jasmine W.]

No. You don't like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Crab legs.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gosh. Lobster.

[Amber Wallen]

Like a Lobster roll.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The texture is weird.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah, it's a little bit rubbery. What about a frog leg? Have you ever had that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Never had it, but I'd probably eat it, though.

[Jasmine W.]

It's like chicken of the sea. It's like a chicken, but there's a little bit of, like, a seafood element.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I eat a frog.

[Amber Wallen]

This, for me, is worse than your Janet Jackson take because I love shellfish. I'm like, we got. We have to pivot. Because I'm not understanding how you don't like all of these types. Like a scallop.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Amber Wallen]

A mollusk. A clam.

[Jasmine W.]

No, I understand it, though, because all those things kind of stank, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And they're all rubbery. They're all like.

[Amber Wallen]

A sandwich can stink. A good stank. A good curry can stink.

[Jasmine W.]

Like, Nah, nah. A sandwich not supposed to stank. Amber, you ain't never had a funky

[Amber Wallen]

sandwich with, like, some onions and stuff

[Bob the Drag Queen]

on it with blue cheese on it. The blue cheese might be a little funky, but, baby, I'm right now, blue cheese is a bitch.

[Amber Wallen]

Me, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me, too, baby.

[Amber Wallen]

So it's not. The odor isn't your issue.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, baby. If you give me a motherfucking buffalo chicken sandwich with a chunk of blue. I want a, like, a lot of blue cheese.

[Amber Wallen]

I love blue cheese.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm dipping every fucking bite. Ranch. Every bite.

[Jasmine W.]

So you ranch and blue cheese?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Jasmine W.]

You greedy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Dual citizenship.

[Jasmine W.]

Dual citizenship.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dual citizenship. I love everybody.

[Amber Wallen]

Did you eat it without dipping it? Cause when somebody seasons well, I don't need it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say I can. But I'm telling you right now, man, if I order Popeyes or chicken wings or something, and it comes to my house and you did not bring the sauce, you have ruined my experience.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

Ruined.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You've ruined it.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm going to be sitting here eating, angry. I'm livid. Oh, my God. In my hotel room, if you don't

[Amber Wallen]

have blue cheese on Popeye.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If I don't have ranch with my. With my wings. No matter. Sorry. I'm getting so emotional.

[Jasmine W.]

Wings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So passionate. If there is not ranch with my chicken wings. Yeah, I'm in a bad mood. Also. Not just that. With my burger. Every bite of my burger is dipped in ranch. My fries are dipped in ranch. My chicken sandwich, ranch. My chicken tenders, ranch. Every bite is dipped in Ranch.

[Amber Wallen]

You're 80% ranch, right?

[Jasmine W.]

You sound like you need ranch before you suck a dick, Right?

[Amber Wallen]

It wouldn't hurt. That's all I'm saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not saying I haven't done it.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, I'm not saying not the Hidden Valley.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honey, you don't like ran. You love rancid, right?

[Amber Wallen]

I like it, but I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're from Georgia.

[Amber Wallen]

I don't need to be baptized in it.

[Jasmine W.]

Like you sound like I actually, I'm

[Amber Wallen]

not just well seasoned. I don't even mess with it. Well, I'll tell you this, okay. Years ago, when I was trying to justify my bad eating choices, I would say to myself, okay, well, the ranch or the Polynesia sauce has extra calories, so if I just eat a chicken sandwich without the ranch, I'm good. Yeah, I do stuff like that.

[Jasmine W.]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I say something? I just revealed to my friends and they all think this is the craziest thing what every.

[Amber Wallen]

Quit Playing with Jasmine and Amber is a purse.

[Jasmine W.]

First production we would like to thank

[Amber Wallen]

our producer, Corey Nixon, our studio engineer,

[Jasmine W.]

Tal Lucas, our audio engineer, Patty Bagrie.

[Amber Wallen]

This episode was edited by Christopher Schwallenberg

[Jasmine W.]

video producer Kane o'. Keefe.

[Amber Wallen]

We absolutely love our executive producer, Bob the Drag Queen, period.

[Jasmine W.]

Follow us on Instagram. Come on. Quit Playing Pod.

[Amber Wallen]

Email us any questions, thoughts, prayers, [e-mail]

[Jasmine W.]

and you can listen to Quit Playing with Jasmine and Amber anywhere. You listen to podcasts, Apple, Spotify, in your basement, honey, at your grandmama house and on YouTube. And please quit playing with Jasmine and Amber.

[Amber Wallen]

Bye.