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Hello, Sibling Rivalry listeners and watchers. You are watching my Nisha Monet Talks. Today we are dropping infee on Sibling Rivalry channel with a fabulous guest, and her name is Adore Delano. Make sure to follow Monat Talks wherever you get your podcast so you never miss an episode. Thank you. Monet Talks. Everybody come sit down. Let's have a chat. Monet Talks. Living life gossip. Chop it up for so bad. Monetax, get comfortable. Cause you want to show us. You just want where you've been, who you've been with. Hey, y', all. And welcome back to another delicious episode of Monet Talks. I cannot tell y'. All. When I asked this woman to be a guest and she agreed, it made me so happy because I just love her aura, her essence, everything, and who she is. It is the incredible Adore Delato.
Adore Delano
Thank you for saying that, girl.
Monet
Are you kidding me? First of all, I've been a fan fan since you, like, since I saw you on television. You know what I mean? So then when I met you, irl. Cause, you know, here's the tea. Sometimes you meet somebody and you, like, you've drummed up what the experience is gonna be in your mind. Then you meet them, and you're like,
Adore Delano
yeah, I've had a couple of those on tour, but then I try to show them grace because I'm like, sometimes you have a bad day when you're getting off a plane or something.
Monet
Exactly.
Adore Delano
And I'm like, that can't be the identifier of that person's personality trait. Cause they're probably being for that.
Monet
Exactly. For sure. But I think the first time I met you, we were doing. It's not the first time, but when we had extended hanging out time was when we did the Australian.
Adore Delano
It always comes to my mind that's
Monet
in the clique and the thing that I was like, yo, this girl is so badass than punk rock was. We worked with him before the show.
Adore Delano
What happened?
Monet
When I was there, I invited a tattoo artist to come to the show, and they were like, adora's about to. Or starting to put her makeup on and getting a tattoo in the dressing room. I was like, this is. Yes, right there.
Adore Delano
Your legs through my fishnets.
Monet
I was like, adore, this is wild.
Adore Delano
And then, like, ironically, I got the. It was weirdo. It was called weirdo weirdo tattoo. So, yeah, that's just like, an impulsive thing. That's probably why I don't drink anymore. Getting tatted on my neck, like, second tatted on my cheek.
Monet
Did you really get a second tatt on your cheek?
Adore Delano
No, but I have two tattoos for my ex boyfriend after we broke up.
Monet
After.
Adore Delano
Come on. Yeah, after like a case of Blue Moon, I saw you tatted the arm very hurt.
Monet
Okay. I've never gotten an ex tatted, but my current relationship is my longest relationship I've ever had.
Adore Delano
How long?
Monet
Three years.
Adore Delano
Love that. Yes. I've never had a three year relationship. Congrats.
Monet
Thank you. Thank you. And he's. And so I don't think we'd ever get a tattoo. Cause he doesn't have any tattoos. And I'm like, bitch, I'm not getting one if you're not getting one. So that's probably not gonna happen.
Adore Delano
But you never know though. You might have a case of Blue moon, you might be on vacation with your toes in the sand, you know. What about a toe tattoo? I dated a guy that used to tattoo happy faces on the bottom of his feet. It was wild. Again, don't drink.
Monet
But also palm and bottom of the feet, like those go away.
Adore Delano
So like, so did the relationship. That's why he had so many of them. He was a boy. Girl. He was a toe. Yeah, a toe.
Monet
Okay. Wait, are you seeing anyone now?
Adore Delano
No, no, I'm seeing people.
Monet
People.
Adore Delano
Like, I'm like dating as a woman. As a girl, actually. Very Britney. Not a girl. Not yet a woman.
Monet
Yeah.
Adore Delano
And I'm gauging straight men and like, you know what I mean? It's a difference between queer men and straight men. It's a whole different energy that you have to kind of mathematically deconstruct.
Monet
Are straight men. Is it harder to date straight men?
Shopify Announcer
Yeah.
Monet
Okay, Because. Because gays are pretty insufferable.
Adore Delano
But honestly, like, I'm. Listen, I'm still part of the queer community. So I'm saying, like queer people, like, at least when I was partying and in my drinking days, like, it's like, we're going to do this. We tell each other what we're about. Like, look at this is what. Because I like, the opportunities are scarce and it's like, let's get to it in the bathroom in Amsterdam. But here it's a lot of like, wheeling and dealing, manipulation. A lot of like, I will. Yes your baby girl. Yes. Oh, I want to take you on dates, but they just want. Listen, they want. Yeah, Said it. Goodies.
Monet
The goodies. Goodies. Not my. Innit. Yeah. Again, I never had. I mean, back when I was before, when I was in New York City mostly, and I would hook up With a lot of straight dudes, like Enge and blah, blah, blah. And I guess in my warped perception of love, I was like, oh, my God. I think those guys really love me. But he just can't. Cause he's married right now. And I think I was telling myself that. But, no, that was a bad person. Like, hooking up with me for months and having a wife and children and all the things. So, yeah, straight to the.
Adore Delano
But, like, having the cake, eating it too, but making another cake on the side, like, with the wrong ingredients. It's like, figure your out. Like, I don't need somebody to take me on a diner date and feed me grilled cheese. Cause that's like, love to me. And then, like, you know what I mean? Like, go on a podcast and say some. And it's like, I'm like, no, I want to, like, I want to find somebody that's just, like, weird. Like, me. Like, that just, like, gets it that. I don't know. That's how I'm just, like, kind of in my Kim Kardashian era.
Monet
Kim K. Yeah.
Adore Delano
I'm like the sibling that just. Just married to the bag.
Monet
Just keep going, girl, girl, girl. I mean, well, you've been in it. You've been doing it for a long time. You've been doing all of the things. And I've always said. I've said this in many interviews, and that when I heard your music was when I realized, like, oh, like, I don't have to make rakarakaraka ka ka baraka rakak. I can make no shade. I don't want to say real music, but you know what I mean? Like, I don't have to make club. I don't have to make drag music. I can make the. That sounds like that I want to hear. And that is R and B and Vibey. And you were an inspiration to me that, like, I don't have to do just the club thing.
Adore Delano
Yeah, yeah.
Monet
Which is so, so, so, so, so dope.
Adore Delano
Thank you for saying that, Monet. Because you. You were coming out with bangers, like, now even. And, like, the video production and everything. Like, I'm a fan, bitch. You know that. Thank you. But, like, honestly, like, Adore was kind of where I could compartmentalize my femininity. Femininity. Femininity.
Monet
It was like that feminineity.
Adore Delano
This would be so I'm telling you girls. So, yeah, I know. I compartmentalized my femininity into Adore. And then I said, you know what? If I'm gonna do that like, what would I do if I was, like, born this and I wanted to be a pop star? I wanted it to be, like, something weird, something different. And I love makeup. I love makeup. I love performing. And that just kind of allowed me to kind of go an angle where I saw, like, you can write about your emotions. Like, I am a person underneath this mask. And kind of, like, dissecting that offered me, like, the right. I don't know.
Monet
No, I mean. I mean, I. Okay, one. Just a selfish question I have. When you did the concept for the Adore youe music video was like, how was that? Cause I am, I think, still to this day, I just think it's just such a dope concept of playing this thing in reverse. Like, it is so trippy. Like, this is just for me, y'. All. The concept of, like, how that came about.
Additional Guest/Interjection
Yeah.
Adore Delano
I mean, we all would sit around and just brainstorm. It was Ben and Caitlin with Geek Mythology, who's amazing. They did most of my videos work, and they presented the idea of doing it in reverse. And I was like, can you explain through imagery? And they were showing me mood boards of it. And then we just kind of collaborated from there on. When I see a vision, I'm like, I'm locked in. I'm very like, I have a lot of Scorpio placements. I'm like, if we're doing this, I'm with you. We're gonna really do this if we can. So, yeah, I mean, I try to act my little ass off.
Shopify Announcer
You did.
Adore Delano
I beat his ass with those flowers, like, four. I felt so bad. I felt so bad for him. But thank you.
Monet
He's talking about astrology. You talk about astrology a lot now. Here's my thing about astrology. I feel in my heart, I just feel like astrology, they just be giving you, like, vague stuff, and they make it relate to you. Like, I'm trying to be more into my astrology back. Cause I do think there is some validity there, but I cannot justify a lot of it. Just be like. I'm like, that don't. I don't know if that's real.
Adore Delano
Yeah. Because it's a whole chart about a person.
Monet
Right.
Adore Delano
It goes into, like, your Jupiter, your Venus, how you love, how you receive love, how you navigate through your path of your purpose in life. And understanding that no matter what, your job on this life is to figure out your purpose and you're gonna get there regardless. But with astrology, for people that kind of connect with it, if you do kind of study it like math. It's mathematical. It's like. It can show you how to navigate your purpose a bit more clearer. It can show you a little bit of why you reply a certain way when people have a tone with you in bed or in transactional experiences with work. If you have heavy Capricorn in your placement, then you should be good with money and good with being stern and stuff.
Monet
I have no Capricorn.
Adore Delano
Oh, my God. I think I have. My mind's in Jupiter, I think so that's kind of cool. There's just. Yeah, it's fun to learn, but also free will. If it doesn't, like, vibe with you, then it's not. You're gonna be where you're supposed to be regardless.
Monet
Okay, I'm gonna say mine. I know I'm a pisces. Well, I'm the 19th of February, so I'm like a cus. I'm like Aquarius, but I go with Pisces. I am Aquarius rising and Gemini's sun or whatever that is.
Adore Delano
So your rising would be.
Monet
And this is Aguadora Leaves throws the microphones. You're like, ew.
Adore Delano
Oh, no, no, no.
Additional Guest/Interjection
I love.
Adore Delano
That's all. I'm like. My duality is air and water because it's like, I'm mostly Libra and mostly Scorpio, so it's like, I love air signs.
Additional Guest/Interjection
Like, work.
Adore Delano
Aquarius is Geminis. Like Libra. Like, I'm a vibe.
Monet
Okay, Work. Okay, good.
Adore Delano
But, like, you're rising. Like, this might be a controversial take, but, like, your rising would be. I would say your drag Persona. That's like, who makes you feel powerful.
Monet
Okay.
Adore Delano
What you're supposed to be in the world. I feel.
Monet
Okay, word.
Adore Delano
It's like, stand on the duality of that. And then your moon sign is your emotions and your emotions, your sun is like the core of you.
Monet
Okay. My moon being Gemini is good because, girl, emotionally, I really be, like, props to my boyfriend. I do give very hot and cold sometimes. Like, bitch. I come home and I'm like. And, like, 10 minutes later, I'm like, just like, stop. So that is. That makes sense to me, right? I want you around, but don't talk to me.
Adore Delano
Like, very that, very that very her very that. Like, my couch pulls out, bitch, like, go over there. You stink. Like, it's very that. But I love you. It's like, very that, very that very that.
Monet
Oh, my God. Ador, should we get married?
Adore Delano
I think we should see my Venus sign. The way that I love is in Scorpio. So I'm just crazy.
Monet
Crazy.
Adore Delano
But my moon and sun is in Libra, so I was born on a new moon. So it's like, that means that, like, I can understand with head and heart. Like, I can be like, look, I do not want to be talked to like, that. I'm not even going to explain to you why, but this has happened three times, and I just have to go. Goodbye. Here's my stinger. It's like. It's very, like, no, not for me.
Monet
Wait. No. I just found out that Scorpio was a water sign. I'm like, that doesn't make sense. But I was like, what? Like. Because the venom, like, I don't understand, but the emotion.
Adore Delano
The emotion is the emotions. I think a lot of people, like, get it confused and be like, oh, Scorpio should be like a fire sign.
Monet
Right, Right. That's what I felt. Yeah.
Adore Delano
But I didn't know because they are very reactive. Like, we are, like, very, like, sting you. And, like, not explained, but that's driven from emotional. Like, crying. And, like, I always say, be careful if I cry over you. Because, like, if I cry over you, babe, not only are you gonna be turned into a song, but I'm literally going to be absolutely concrete over you. Like, it's gonna be like, next page. Like, the vibe.
Monet
I need to. I need to channel more of that.
Adore Delano
Yeah, like that. It's kind of psychotic.
Monet
So I always want to know this about you, Adora. Like, American Idol is such a big part of your story. And, like, you know, like, are you happy that American Idol or you wish you did later?
Adore Delano
I'm so grateful for American Idol. I am. I did it at 16 first. That was my first experience on television.
Monet
Yeah.
Adore Delano
I broke out in hives my first time there. I was like, what is this feeling? Then I dissected that. I remember my mom, like, was there with me because I was underage, so she helped me kind of dissect that, and I got better and better. It taught me how to. I got a lot of PR training. Got it, like, at a young age. From 16 to 19.
Monet
Work.
Adore Delano
Yeah. Signed to CAA from, like, 17 to, like, 19. Didn't do anything with it because they just hold you there.
Monet
Yeah.
Adore Delano
But you learn a lot.
Monet
Yeah. I'm sure you do, like, speak. Yeah. Which translates to when you. After Drag Race, when you, like, you're doing the thing because you had all that years of training in the.
Adore Delano
In the thing or pressure, pressure, pressure with work and just, like, learning, like, how to navigate different dynamics with Personalities and, like, not taking things too seriously. If it, like, seems like there's negative energy in the room, you got to deal with a lot of, you know, the gig. A lot of girls backstage just, like, let it go. Like we said earlier in the beginning of this conversation. They probably stubbed their toe this morning. Let it go. It's not as serious, bitch. But yeah.
Monet
And I have seen a thing. I don't know if it's true, if it's just a folklore line that you horror in the process of transitioning before making an idol. But you stopped before, like, because of the show.
Adore Delano
Yeah. I really wanted to get on American Juniors when I was 13 and I couldn't, like, my mom was just, like, focused on school. My mom was very, like, just graduate.
Monet
I love the relationship with you and your mom. I think it's so fierce.
Adore Delano
She's such a lion.
Monet
I love it.
Adore Delano
Leo, she's a Libra, but she probably has Leo in her child. But I love my relationship with my mom too. But she was very. Hold it in. They're not gonna take you seriously. I lived my life as a girl through high school.
Monet
Really?
Adore Delano
Yeah, Literally. I've been on lives and shown you my year. Shown every my yearbooks of like. Yeah. I was like, for like, a good four years. Yeah.
Monet
Where I had.
Adore Delano
I never knew that I dated as a girl. I date. Yeah.
Monet
Throughout high school and stuff.
Adore Delano
I dated three guys as like, like identifying. Told my mom, like, I think I am a girl. Like, my mom was like, well, what does that mean for you? And then I explained to her, like, I just don't feel like, connected at all. Like, so my mom, like, got down to business, like, went to the school and told them, like, she's gonna play in the girls sports. Like, you're gonna have to make her
Monet
having your mom be an advocate like that. Listen to all you parents out there with trans kids. That is what they need. That is so badass.
Adore Delano
Yeah, definitely blessed. Cause I grew up in a gangster family, right. So to have my mom be like, nah, she always like, you're half of me. I made that part of you. Like, that's. I can identify when, like, my child is like, you know, yeah, go play, Go play. Yeah, work.
Monet
That's so fierce. Other girls forwards, I don't think that is sickening.
Adore Delano
I was sickening at flag football. Nobody could tell me anything.
Monet
Oh, you, you. Oh, you.
Adore Delano
But I played with the girls against.
Monet
They have Danny on their team
Adore Delano
vibe.
Monet
And so then when you. When you announced the Drag Race fan that you were Transitioning, like, and you made this in that beautiful fucking video and you wanted to experience a puberty of transition, like in private. Why? Because it's like, well, other than being nobody's fucking business.
Adore Delano
Yeah. There's a lot of psychological changes that happen and a lot of people like just see the beauty of it all. They see like us like getting like a little bit of work done here,
Monet
a little bit of work done.
Adore Delano
I got a whole head transplant face off too with Nicholas Cage out of here. I'm like a little bit of nip and tuck eyebrows behind my throat. No, but I'm saying like, honestly, like they see like the beauty and the, and the vanity of it and be like, oh, like, oh, it's the butterfly rising from that like nod. You're like, this is like now going on two years, like psycho. I took a break from like psychotherapy and just like digesting everything, dissecting everything, targeting like emotions and what makes me tick and why I'm feeling the way that I'm feeling in my soberness. But yeah, what was the question again?
Monet
It was, oh no, you're choosing to do it privately and not have that be public facing, which makes sense. Yeah.
Adore Delano
And I'm still doing it. It's like I just get really like de shelling. Like I want to experience my body's changing. Like I'm like, my brain's changing. I'm more chill. Like I'm not reactive as I used to be. Like. And yeah, watching like your family members and your friends transition with you is trippy, girl. I'm just like, oh, they're like taking it in. They're like, is there still a little part? Like, is there? Because it's like a soul, a spiritual change for me. You know what I mean? I have to navigate the world now. Like the way that like, yes, it's a lot learning in the airport how like guys react to you is a lot.
Monet
Right? All of that because you in a way that you haven't had to consider before. Because now, like this, I'm living this.
Adore Delano
Yeah, it's wild. Cause when you still feel like I'll be tomboying my hair in a cheongo like at the airport, just like, whatever. And you're like, oh, I used to elbow these mother in the face and now they want to take me to the non binary bathroom and show them what my lip gloss is all about. I get it. It's very that. Well, because I spend a lot of time at the airports in the, in the, the gender neutral rooms and I just do my makeup and vibe. It's just like, it's such my girl little room.
Monet
So I'm curious, like, how like, you know, has, has. Has your transition, like changed your perspective of drag? Like. Yeah, it has.
Adore Delano
Oh, yeah. Like I said earlier, like, compartmentalizing my femininity. Got it. That time. I unleashed her. Now, like, I can apply that. I remember having like a off camera conversation with Ru and he told me, when you're able to apply what you put away for a door into your daily life, like, good luck to the world. Cause like, when you understand that that is inside of you 24 7.
Monet
Yeah, all the time.
Adore Delano
You can get whatever you want in this life, honey. And it's just starting right now. Which is why I want the privacy. Which is why I want to like, you see my little boobies sprout, see my little hips get a little vibe here. And I want to take that in and be able to produce something very refined for the world. When it's all kind of curated on me mentally and physically. And I feel in tuned. I'm long winded. Like Dory housewives.
Monet
No, I love it, girl. You're dropping knowledge, you're dropping gems on here. And I think that through you, a lot of us are the way that you are deciding to, to show us what of your transition. And not like, we're just learning a lot about it through your lens. I think that's really interesting. Cause people like to think like, oh, transitioning, supposed to look like this and this happens. But like, you know, especially being a queer person, having so many friends who have transition, every time I have a new friend that I know that is transitioning and they give me that knowledge, I'm like, I'm seeing how like, again, cause trans people are obviously not a monolith. They're all different. You just see. I'm like, wow, just. I learned. You learn through all my different friends all the time. It's really dope.
Adore Delano
It's beautiful. Yeah, it really is. And even like being around other trans people, like, it's like I'm like, oh, that's like, good. That's. I love that for you. Yeah, Like, I love that for you.
Monet
Yeah.
Adore Delano
But like, I'm kind of grew up on Billy Madison. Like, like, come on. Like a house full of boys. Like, I'm very, like, rough around the edges, work, polish them over through and through. But it's like I'm tapping into more of my feminine side. But it's also like, good for you, bitch. Like, I wish I Can do that. But that's not for me.
Monet
That's not for you.
Adore Delano
And good for you.
Monet
Well, I have a question. What is for you? Because you have said recently that you are feeling. You're craving lip syncing again.
Adore Delano
Oh, yeah.
Monet
Adore. Would you ever. Would you go back to the beast and entertain her and tame her?
Adore Delano
Not right now. Not right now. I think, like, I watch like a fan now. Yeah, I've like, been. I've been able to, like, separate myself so much from it now. Like, a lot of work on that and just like, being like, I'm a fan of these kids now. There's kids.
Monet
Yeah.
Adore Delano
And it's like, that was me. I was like, that age. And it's been 10 years now. Like, I'm like, bro, how about it? Like, I'm trying to. Like, I'm in my own lane, you know? Like, we're all in our own lane, but I'm just trying to do, like, some other things if it made sense in my life. Yeah, but like, like, what do they say? Like, the great Justin Bieber said, never say never.
Monet
But I mean, him and Haley just had a baby. Congratulations.
Adore Delano
Congratulations.
Monet
Not that we're friends. You care, but congrats, Haley.
Adore Delano
Jack, right? The baby's name is Jack.
Monet
Yeah, Jack. Which I'm like, it feels like a little departure. Like, I mean, it's like 20, 20, 24. Like, I feel like names like Apple and like, I'm like Jack Giant. You know what I mean? Jack Elon Musk. Name his daughter. Well, sorry. Their kid. Like, it was like E equals MC squared. Like some crazy thing. We're done with the Jacks. It's gonna be a little more crazy. But that's just me.
Adore Delano
Square. Oh, what is it? The Mariah album.
Monet
Oh, yes. Oh, my God. Okay. Favorite album of all time.
Adore Delano
My favorite album of all time. Oh, my God, we have to go, like, back because, like, what shaped me? Oh, probably. I love Britney.
Monet
Britney. Okay, which one?
Adore Delano
Britney Spears. Just Britney by Britney Spears.
Monet
Oh, Britney. That's which is number three. Three. Okay, so I was heavy on the Britney Spears growing up. Like, I don't know what it was. So my greatest album is Brandy. Never say never.
Adore Delano
Oh, good one, bitch.
Monet
It was the first album I like, purchased with, like, my earned. My hard earned allowance money. And I bought this album. I was in love. I was. Dora, this is not a joke. I would sit on my bed with my little CD player with my headphones on and just put have you ever on repeat over and just crying, sobbing
Adore Delano
in the pillow like, from beginning to end.
Monet
From beginning to end. And I'm like, I was nine years old. What the was I crying about?
Adore Delano
Because it's pulling the tears out of you as soon as it starts. Have you ever. She's like, give me a tear or two. Yeah. And you said, bitch, yeah.
Monet
Yes.
Adore Delano
I am in love, girl.
Monet
I am in love. I'm like, yes. I've never loved someone so much.
Adore Delano
Me too.
Monet
So that's, like, my favorite thing. But then shortly after that, I don't know. I don't know. I don't even remember when was the first time I saw her. I just fell in love with Britney after Brian.
Adore Delano
Oh, Britney.
Monet
And I was. I was. I want to tell you, I would get all of the posters, all of the cds I was obsessed with 1, 2, and 3. I kind of fell off after 3.
Adore Delano
Yeah. Same. Cause that was like, our kind of, like, teenage years. We were kind of being rebels then.
Monet
Yeah.
Adore Delano
So keeping an eye out. Oh, she's doing good.
Monet
I had all the points. I was obsessed with britney. I was in love with her.
Adore Delano
Same, same. I had everything. J. 14 magazines. I still have them. My mom had a crate, and she gave it to me, and it was all my old Britney magazines and everything. I was like, oh, my God.
Monet
Yeah. And I mean, even, like, you know, with, like, the free Britney movement, everything, like, I just, like, I was so oblivious to how, like, up we were to her back then. And, like, I just. I just feel bad that, like, I mean, again, I was a teen. I didn't have a lot of consciousness around it, but we were really so fucking mean to that woman.
Adore Delano
It was awful to watch it. It was almost like a reality show, girl. You would see, like, just, like, what is Britney gonna do on la cienega today? Like, she was over there with her blue w With her pink wigs, getting cheetos, and despite me, I was creeping. Speaking of british accent, we love britney. Let's move on quickly. Just kidding.
Monet
So I've been hanging out with kari colbert recently, and y' all been hanging out a lot.
Adore Delano
A lot.
Monet
Has what? Has advice, has tranos. Sorry. As she called herself giving you about this wallage.
Adore Delano
You know what's crazy? That we kind of put everything aside when we hang out, work, and, like, naturally teach each other things. Like, it's like, I think, like, I've taught her how to be a little bit more weird. She's already weird. Like, I mean, she is a weirdo. There's so many girls that are like, oh, Like, I was telling carrie that, like, she reminds me of you. And then she was telling me, like, oh, in the. The room, they're saying, like, you remind me of Adora when she first started or whatever. Like, it's. We're just link.
Monet
Yeah, yeah.
Adore Delano
But she's just cool. She teaches me how to, like, just. Just live, like, as a girl and not care. Like, when I go out, she's just like, girl. They either know and don't care or they're too dumb to know. That's not your problem. Like, go dance. It's, like, very that vibe. But, yeah, I love her.
Monet
The TikTok of y' all in Austin doing the giving was so cute.
Adore Delano
That was such a fun night. We went to a comedy show.
Monet
Were y' all there for just. Were y' all just there for vacation together or, like, y' all just had a gig at the same time?
Adore Delano
We had a gig. This is how. How synchronized we are. It's hilarious. So we had a gig together. We didn't know, and then we ended up being like, oh, we're on the bill together. Cool. So, like, I show up, like, a day before she gets in, calls me on FaceTime, and then we're talking, and I can hear her behind me, and then I'm like, what's going on? We have a connected room.
Monet
Shut the up.
Adore Delano
And she's, like. Opens the door, and she's like, you. It. Like, it was hilarious. So we're just doing our makeup the whole time. Just. It was very real world. We were there for three days. Yeah.
Monet
Work. Would you ever do another reality show, like Traders or some shit like that?
Adore Delano
Absolutely. Yeah. Like, stuff like that is cool. Like, right?
Monet
Me too. Like, I would love to do, like, a Traitors or, like, a Survivor or some shit.
Adore Delano
I think that would make more sense for girls like us because I think we're so, like, solidified with our personalities. Like, in the community. Like, we already. We're our own Pokemon at this point. Like, we can all sharpen whatever we want to sharpen, but at the same time, like, I think taking us out of, like, the competitive environment with each other. Yes. Putting us in, like, a Big Brother vibe. Girl or challenge vibe.
Monet
Yes.
Adore Delano
I would eat that up.
Monet
Well, the crazy thing is challenge is part of the Paramount Drag Racing. I'm like, why have there not been Drag Race? I think Vanjie may have done it a long time ago, but come on. On the challenge, which. I would love to do the challenge
Adore Delano
or have something like that. For all the Drag Race girls, though, they need to do something with the Girls. Because when I tell you, when we have, like, she just mentioned Australia. When we have these side tours together, it'd be so.
Monet
It's such a key. It's so good.
Adore Delano
I found out that Jasmine Masters is one of my soulmates through one of a side tour. I'm like, who the. Like, what?
Monet
You know what I mean? Like, how would you. Yeah. Give fans not Drag Race. Like, there are so many other shows out there that can put us on together, and it would be TV gold, and it'd just be. It'd be fun.
Adore Delano
It would eat. It would eat too much personality to, like, deny that.
Monet
Yeah, for sure.
Adore Delano
If they.
Monet
Do you think this is what I want for you and I in a. For. I don't know if you're interested, if you're into it.
Adore Delano
I'm into it.
Monet
Like, I feel like you and I could have a Brandi Monica voice mind situation. Like, if we did a record together. Adore.
Adore Delano
Oh, my God. But we would fight over who's Brandy. Oh, no. I would be down.
Monet
Can we Adore, please?
Adore Delano
Down? It has to be some rotted, nasty, cheating story or something.
Monet
Oh, I'm so down. I'm like, I'm gonna ask the door on camera. So then she says no.
Adore Delano
I'm like, I'm in my music bag right now. I'm like, I'm barely getting back into the studio right now. Like, working with, like, four different producers right now. Just, like, figuring it out, having fun. So, like, we were even talking about concepts of, like, adding, like, girls in for, like, a duet or whatever. Like, I would be. Okay.
Monet
I wanna pick a brain about this. I just wanna put this question.
Adore Delano
Pick my brain.
Monet
Okay. What is your writing process? Like? Like, I'm very interested in, like, how other artists do because, like, someone like Sza, right, you can tell SZA is the type of artist where she will journal a poem and then she'd go in the booth and just sing. Like, sing it to the thing. Like, what is. How does Adore music?
Adore Delano
It's different for every genre and every feel. Like, am I like, Mexican Kurt Cobain or am I Mexican Taylor Swift? Like, it's very. That. Like, I have to find out, like, where we're going. But with rock music, always guitar, always. Like, I will even be on FaceTime with my producers and be like, dude, play amount. Like, play with whatever you've been feeling with the poem that I sent you or with the concept that we talked about, always concepts. And then match the concepts with music. And then after that, we'll start humming Like a hook that starts coming up. And then. And then you kind of, like, have a mathematical, like, relationship with. With the song. You start mapping out the bones, which is like verse, pre chorus, hook, whatever. Like, depending on if you wanna write pop or not, or if you wanna just go, like, all out. It just. It's mostly that, like, concept. Concept music. And then, like, what is this making me feel?
Monet
Yeah.
Adore Delano
And then sometimes you'll wanna, like, feel really sad and be like, okay, well, I wanna have it sound this way. And then, like, yeah, collaboration. Collaboration is like, dude, what is this making you feel? And then. Yeah, we're in sync.
Monet
So. So with your. So with your producer. Sorry, you. So this is someone like, you. Like. Like, y' all are, like. So, like, you are connected to, like, you. You work. You write a lot of your rock stuff with this guy. With this person.
Adore Delano
Nate. Yes, Nate. Nate is amazing because he's super empathic with, like, I come with heavy dude. Like, I'll be writing about some crazy. He's just like. There was one song called Best Friend's dad that was like a bop. And he's like, we're not doing. I'm like, why? He's like, that's just a little too much. Like, that's, like, too Best Friends that
Monet
I can only imagine.
Adore Delano
It was. It was so good. Even the melody and everything, very Lana coded. But, like, he was like, nah, let's just, like, stop with the heavy. But, like, yeah, like, we'll, like, literally be very involved with each other, like, entwined. It's like making a baby.
Monet
Oh, for sure.
Adore Delano
Especially with, like, somebody like that. Like, he's into, like. Like the metaphorical, like, foreplay of it all. Like, he wants to get into your brain and be like, why? And then he'll even cry. Like, we'll be like, it's a vibe.
Monet
Like, oh, y', all, like, really get into the bones of the music.
Adore Delano
Well, because it was, like, dark. The last, like, two projects that I released were dark. They were very, like, let's talk about, like, the drinking. Let's talk about, like. Like, the coke and, like, the sleeping around and, like, how it's not working for you. So, like, we had to go there. Like, he was, like, willing to do that, which was cool.
Monet
And then through the music, is that how you kind of found sobriety? Like. Like, you, like. You, like, put out these. You write and do these records, and you hear them back. You're like, I need to. Not anymore.
Adore Delano
Yeah, yeah, yeah. In ways, I think that that's like a ribbon To. To the. To the, like, kite of sobriety. Like, there's a lot of things that. That went into it. Like, I mean, I just got off of, like, a really cool, like, world tour, and I was like, we have to address, like, why am I hiding away from the band? Why am I not wanting to be seen, like, publicly? Like, and it's like. Like, yeah, I don't know. They're just like. What was the question again?
Monet
If. If through the music, you were. Is that how you found sobriety, through your artistry?
Adore Delano
No, I don't think I've found sobriety solely through music. Okay. I think I found sobriety through my fans.
Monet
Got it.
Adore Delano
Yeah.
Monet
Okay. Work.
Shopify Announcer
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Adore Delano
Yeah.
Monet
That's beautiful. I love that. Because that's the thing.
Adore Delano
I think that those little whores. That's the thing.
Monet
You know what I mean? And I know that there's this whole conversation these days going around about boundaries with fans and stuff like that, but I think that depending on the fan base that you curate, these people out here who are loving the innermost, darkest
Adore Delano
parts of you, the weirdest unconditional love. It's weird.
Monet
It's weird. You know what I mean? And, yes, there are some boundaries that have to happen, but there is this beauty in the way that these people love and accept you through all the bullshit, regardless of stuff. And I. You know, so. I hear you. I hear you. I hear you.
Adore Delano
It's. It takes a lot of therapy to. For people that aren't used to that to be like, okay. And then being sober, everything's highly sensitive. The moans. Everything's like, let's talk about the elephant in the room. Like that. It's the moans, but at the same time, like, I'm. I really love them because it's like. Like, I've been doing this for 17 years. Like, since I was 16. I remember mom having to drive me to Hollywood to, like, just audition for, like, radio competitions. And it's, like, to gain, like, a fan base that, like, a lot of them have followed me from American Idol to. Yeah. And I've watched them grow, too. And, like, it's. It's wild. Like, some of them give me, like, love, like a family member that I haven't even experienced with family, some of them. And I'm like, I could really do anything, bitch. And you'd be like, oh, that's my bitch. Like, I'll you up. And then DM me. That wasn't cool. You're making the stands look crazy, bitch. But I'll her up. That's a ride or die, bitch. And then I thank God all the time. I'm always like. Even before bat, I'm like, dude, like, maybe this is, like, cool karma for me because I was, like, brutally bullied when I was younger, and, like, now you're shown unconditional love through these other weirdos. And that's the beauty that I find in. In it. But, like, sometimes I feel undeserving, and it's like. It's just. It's a weird kind of like, oh, my God. Like, there's. There's meaning to everything. And what is the meaning to having, like, a lot of, like, people that support you even on your, like, downtime?
Monet
Yeah.
Adore Delano
You know, it's wild.
Monet
I just love you so much.
Adore Delano
Oh, shut up.
Monet
Yes, girl.
Additional Guest/Interjection
You.
Monet
Like, the orange is, like, pinks and purples and blues, and I can see. Oh, absolutely, girl.
Adore Delano
Yeah. I'm trying to. I'm really trying to work on myself right now, but not even, like, for my family. Like, for, like, I have to show them, like, you know, like. Like, a lot of, like, people in my life that are close to me. Like, I can tell, like, the misunderstandings, and I can see them struggling with it, even if they don't say it. So it's like, it's my job. And you may disagree as people out there, but being that I'm close with my family, like, very, very close, through and through. Blood. Blood. Yeah. I feel like it's a. I have a duty, too, to show them that I'm happy and show them, like, my experiences and, like, help them understand with, like, no, that's not Mom. I don't date gay boys anymore. Although, do I? But she doesn't have to know that. That's one spring break on mtv. No, but you know what I mean. Like, I want her to understand, like, the difference and the transition of it all and. And doing a lot of work for myself, for the people around me, too. So we can vibe.
Monet
We love. We love, right?
Adore Delano
I'm not trying to bring a cat into this world. I can't even take care of myself, bitch. I'm trying to get a cat.
Monet
Oh, my God. I have a cat.
Adore Delano
I know you do.
Monet
I got a sphinx. Let me tell you something. They are the best breeds. They are so affectionate. They're like, all the best parts of all the. Okay. All the parts of a dog that I like, which is, like, they're fun. They play fetch and stuff. But all the good parts of the cat, like, she leaves me alone. She's minding her own business.
Adore Delano
I feed her self Sufficient enough.
Monet
Yes. Because that's the part of a dog I can't. I cannot take you on walks all the time, but you walk in the dog is. Especially people who got. Have you seen people who have dogs who got them in the pandemic? Those dogs are next level. They're so needy.
Adore Delano
No, I wonder what they named them.
Monet
I don't know, but pandemic dogs are like another breed. That's another breed.
Adore Delano
Yeah.
Monet
Cause they're just so used to their owners being there all the time. So, like, when they.
Adore Delano
So they're wild, maybe they should start breeding pandemic dogs.
Monet
Oh, no, I don't want a dog like that on the door.
Adore Delano
Listen, some people need, like, that codependent love. Babe, I'm here. I'll be like, look, you'll love me forever. Maybe that's why I'm so emotional with my fans. Bitch, I'm codependent with them. You love me. Me, too.
Monet
When you say, guys, do you like someone that is less. Not codependent, but someone, like, that's needy or do you want someone. Do you want to feel needed, like, all the time?
Adore Delano
No.
Monet
Right.
Adore Delano
No, same. I'm very. Cat energy.
Monet
Very.
Adore Delano
Always been a cat. I get that from you.
Monet
Oh, for sure.
Adore Delano
I always say there's cat friends and then there's puppy friends.
Monet
Dog. Dog friends. Bob is a dog.
Adore Delano
Oh, okay.
Monet
Bob is a do.
Adore Delano
Like, loyal through and through.
Monet
Loyal through and through.
Adore Delano
Very. Just will love you no matter what. Okay. Love that I love a cat person because it's very, like, I like to take in situations. I'm very like, wait, you added. Who's this? Like, my cousin. Be like, oh, this is. I'm like, wait, you didn't. Now we have to switch the dynamics of the group of, like, jokes and, like, oh, he doesn't get it. Like, it's like, very. That I'm like, cat.
Monet
I say. I say you and Bianca, two cats.
Adore Delano
Yeah, Bianca's a cat.
Monet
A cat for sure.
Adore Delano
Cat boots, like, even. Like, even in at her house. She's very kitty cat. Just like. Like, she'll leave you alone. She leave you alone.
Monet
She. She put. She'll put snacks and food up. Like, hey, this food over here.
Adore Delano
She'll literally feed you like you're a bird. Just like a bird bowl of food. Literally. She's like, all right, I'm going to go stitching. And, like, she'll go sew for, like, 12 hours. Yes. And you're just, like, naked in the pool, like, yeah, literally. I'M alive.
Monet
Literally.
Adore Delano
I have a friend that's my sugar daddy. Now.
Monet
I will say I'm upset. Like, be up here. Don't understand. Like, she is literally one of the most generous people I have ever met in my life.
Adore Delano
Always has been. Always from day one. Jimmy off camera.
Monet
I love that.
Adore Delano
The hell yeah.
Monet
Yeah. And I think people, obviously, people see, she's always online or reading people and typing, okay, other people's posts, whatever. But Bianca is literally one of the genuinely sweet and kind human beings I've ever met. Like, she'll check in, like, every couple of weeks. She'll be like, hey, just checking in, man. Everything's all right. Like, she's just.
Adore Delano
She wants to know that you're doing good. Yeah. She just wants to know that everything's cool with you. And that makes her feel good. Yes. That, like, her circle of people that she loves is, like, feeling. I love that bitch so much. I love her. There's a lot of people on this planet that, like, she's just one of the ones that I'm like, that's a soul connection. And I remember now that I look back at little clips. Cause one popped up on my for your page today of me and her on Drag Race, and I was like, oh, this is cringy. But, like, like, she was teaching me, like, little things. Like how she was, like, saying. I'm like, oh, maybe like, she was just trying to teach me, like, bitch, shut up. Can I shut up? See, that's why I got just smile on my hand. Just shut up and smile.
Monet
What is her sign? What is Bianca sign?
Adore Delano
She's a cancer through and through cancer. I think her rising is cancer as well. Well, cancers are really emotional, but they're very. They're very. Mommy, Mommy. Like, I want to take care of you. I want to make sure you're okay. Like, that's why she puts food out before she leaves you. Like. Like, she's very okay.
Monet
I can see that Bob is a cancer, too. Bob is very, like, motherly. He's also very emotional.
Adore Delano
I love cancer. Yeah, I do. Really?
Monet
Cancers, you know, I love water signs. Cause I am like a fish. Like, I love water.
Adore Delano
I love the sea.
Monet
I love the ocean. I am very water. Love, love, love, love water.
Adore Delano
Love that.
Monet
Adore.
Adore Delano
What's up?
Monet
This has been absolutely so beautiful and lovely and delicious to sit here and shoot this with you. I feel like I can talk to you for hours.
Adore Delano
We can keep it going for five. We can.
Monet
Well, I just want to say, I remember one time we were out we just happened to bounce into each other at Mickey's and just. And again, I think this is a testament to who you are. Everyone just gravitates. Everyone is trying to start conversations with you and talk to you in the corner, and everyone is just trying to be all in your. Your. And I'm like, you know, when people like Chapel Rowan say. I mean, people come up to me, but I think because you're. You're og. Like, people just know. People know you way longer than they. Than they know me on TV and American Idol.
Adore Delano
And.
Monet
And so people. How do you. It's next level to me how people are just always in your grill.
Adore Delano
You have to show grace with like that because when you think of it through the eyes of them, they feel like they. They know you. Yeah, they feel like they. Especially in a bar setting. I did that to myself. I went out. You know what I mean? So it's like, if they're drinking, they're having a good time, they feel like they. They're not owed that. But in a way, they feel that, like, it's like. You know what I mean? So it's like. But it's also. Can be taken away from you.
Monet
That's the thing, too. Idol taught me to disappear immediately.
Adore Delano
That's what Idol taught me to, like, don't nothing's forever. Have fun with it for as long as you can and be very grateful. So that's why when they're there, I have like, like the Drew Barrymore effect. Sometimes I talk too much and, like, ask too many questions, and then it just prolongs, like, in meet and greets and stuff. So I've gotten better. That's probably why they're probably. Oh, this bitch Gabs. Let's see what I can get out of her ass tonight. She's probably on a good one. She probably did a rail back there.
Monet
Well, also, especially, like, the music, right, Because. And again, the chaperone thing was like, I get it. Set your boundaries and all that. I get it. But, like, I'm like. But like, when you're a musician, like, these people, they are making the music that you're making is connecting to them. On, like, to what you said about Brandi. Spiritual level.
Adore Delano
Spiritual level.
Monet
Like, I didn't have. I didn't love anyone, but I connected with Brandi in a spiritual way that I just wanted to not disrespect her if I saw her in public. But I just. I feel like this spiritual, deeper connection.
Adore Delano
So how does this person get how I feel? How does you Connect in a stand nature. Like, that song is real. It's like even as a kid, like with Britney or Selena. Selena was my first Britney. I didn't know what the she was talking about, but I knew that that was me and I wanted to be her. So I had to be like, Selena or Britney. I'd be like, w. They understand what, like, I'm thinking. Like, I can be that. So it's like, you gotta give grace a little.
Monet
Yeah, you do.
Adore Delano
But poor Chapel.
Monet
I know, poor Chapel. Girl, I mean, just was just blowing too fast. Too fast. It's happening too fast, right?
Adore Delano
I think she's too artsy and weird and cool and like, like, she's too like indie for the amount of success in the short span that she got it. I think it would have been cool in a span of like. Although she's been doing music for a while, if it gradually got to the point where it is right now, like Glastonbury, like all these crazy sold out arenas. It's a lot to take in.
Monet
Girl, I cannot imagine going from. There's someone who has done that TikTok transition was like her in late 22 of like 35 people and then boom, Lollapalooza, like 80,000 people like that within a year and a half. That is huge. That's crazy. But again, but then this is. The little devil on this side is like, but, baby, do you know how many musicians, how many of us artists
Adore Delano
are there wish for that one Coachella moment.
Monet
That one Coachella moment.
Adore Delano
It takes one A&R person to see you literally in a public set. That's why my girl, this is the vibe. But it's like, it takes one person to be like, you know what? There's a market for this little. You know what I mean? Like, sorry.
Monet
No, please, no, I'm saying, like, in
Adore Delano
general, you know, I'm saying, like, there's a market for this bitch. Like, maybe we can do something with her, you know? And it's. It's like, we all need that one. It's timing too. It's just like, I mean, if you think of this and have you seen the Tina documentary on hbo?
Monet
I haven't seen Tina Turner.
Adore Delano
Tina Turner. I highly recommend you watch it. I just watched it for like a 6, 7 time recently. It's such a beautiful story. We all know, like, the story of Tina, but like, it also kind of like gives you an adrenaline boost of fire up your ass. If you're in your mid-30s or if you're in your 30s. 30s. She was finding out who she was right now, artistically. She wanted to break away from Ike and Tina. She wanted her name Tina Turner. She didn't know what she was going to do with it. Her breakout was 40 years old.
Monet
Really?
Adore Delano
What's love got to do with it?
Monet
What's 40?
Adore Delano
When she was 40 years old, she started selling out the arenas that she made her dream book out to the football stadiums that the rock stars can do. She says, I want to be the first black female rock singer to sell out out a stadium, a football stadium. And she was doing that at like 42. Like her, that all happened for timing for her. She wasn't ready. She didn't heal yet. She didn't, like, process the movie that came out about her life or the book that she wrote in probably that she didn't want to write. And. And the universe probably told us, she's ready now. Or God was like, look it, this is your time now. Do it.
Monet
Okay. You just really fucked me up.
Additional Guest/Interjection
Okay.
Adore Delano
42. Yeah.
Monet
Because you know what I think about Midora? I'm like, you know, like, we're getting older. Like, people are gonna buy our tickets. Like, they don't want to be someone in their 30s or late 40s, I mean, or late 30s. Like, they want like a 22 year old, 23. I'm like, am I too old? All that even I'm still making music that's always in the back of my head. But the perspective of people like Tina Turner, like, really?
Adore Delano
I guess you're at an advantage when you're older, Especially if you have a youthful spirit about you. You are at an advantage for learning. 20s are about learning your lessons.
Monet
Yeah.
Adore Delano
Applying them to your 30s. You probably still make some of the lessons in your 30s, but you're quick to fix them.
Monet
Yeah, quicker.
Adore Delano
This is the time, babe. Listen, this is the time.
Monet
This is the time.
Adore Delano
Mid 30s is when you're getting your gears to start that Nicole Scherzinger vibe. Like, we're gonna get there, babe.
Monet
This is the time. Adore. My God. You see, you have just spoke a lot of life into me today. Like, don't, like, be. Yes. Thank you. I needed to hear that.
Adore Delano
This is the time. I spent a lot of time alone, so I just gab, girl. I'm like, oh, you've been talking then. And then I'm gonna go back to YouTube when I go home right now. I love you, bitch.
Monet
I love you. I love you. This has been such a great conversation. I'm so grateful that you took the time to Stop by here.
Adore Delano
Thank you for having me, bitch. Honestly, like, I love you. I have so much love for this bitch.
Additional Guest/Interjection
I love you.
Adore Delano
I do adore.
Monet
Tell everyone if there's anything that we should catch upon or shows, whatever, like, let us know. We can.
Adore Delano
Yeah, we're just like preparing like the. The 20, 25 tours right now. We're gonna. We're gonna be doing something really cool for Valentine's Day. And yeah, right now, hence the hearts, we're kind of in the pink, like, aura right now to kind of like gear that up and inspire that kind of energy for next year. But yeah, just right now is just like the hibernation mode. Getting an acting coach going into acting classes, doing the legality things for the names and stuff and just like sharpening all the vibes.
Monet
And you know what? Also, I keep on saying one more thing. When you go to a Mother Adore Delano concert, baby, the vocals are live. The mic is on. No. Which in today's era of music and pop and stuff, baby, that don't be happening. The mic be this bitch be singing for real.
Adore Delano
Thank you, Monet, girl. Thank you, girl.
Monet
The mic be, motherfucker. I'll be like, this bitch is out here releasing. This is.
Adore Delano
You have the channel, you know.
Monet
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Adore Delano
Thank you, baby.
Monet
And listen, y', all, thank y' all for watching this episode of Monat Talks. We're gonna hop over to the Patreon really quick. Cause I got some Patreon questions, some exclusive questions I'm gonna hit a door up with. And you can only hear them on Patreon, so I'll see you next time. Mwah. Monet Talks.
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Date: November 8, 2024
Host: Monét X Change
Guest: Adore Delano
This episode of "Monét Talks" (aired on the Sibling Rivalry channel) features an in-depth and candid conversation between Monét X Change and drag superstar Adore Delano. The main theme weaves through creativity, sobriety, identity, and the nuanced journey of gender transition. Adore opens up about finding sobriety, the challenges and joys of living and performing as a trans woman, her relationships with family and fans, and how fame, artistry, and community have shaped her evolution.
If you’ve ever wondered how success, identity, sobriety, and artistry intertwine in the life of a drag icon and trans woman, this episode offers rare depth and humor. Adore Delano’s courage, candor, and wit, paired with Monét’s insightful, loving hosting, make for an episode that’s entertaining, enlightening, and deeply human.
Next episode and bonus content available on Patreon.