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Hello, sibling rivalry listeners and watchers. You are watching my new show, Monat Talks. Today we are dropping in feed on the sibling rivalry channel with a fabulous guest and her name is Adore Delano. Make sure to follow Monat Talks wherever you get your podcast so you never miss an episode. Thank you, Monat Talks. Everybody come sit down, let's have a chat. Monetize living life gossip chopping up this one bad monetox get comfortable with me cause you want to show you just wann. Hey, y'all, and welcome back to another delicious episode of Monat Talks. I cannot tell y'all. When I asked this woman to be a guest and she agreed, it made me so happy because I just love her aura, her essence, everything and who she is. It is the incredible Adore Delano.
B
Thank you for saying that, girl.
A
Are you kidding me? First of all, I've been a fan fan since you, like, since I saw you on television. You know what I mean? So then when I met. Cause, you know, here's the tea. Sometimes you meet somebody and you like, you drummed up what the experience is gonna be in your mind. Then you meet them and you're like.
B
Yeah, I've had a couple of those on tour. But then I try to show them grace because I'm like, sometimes you have a bad day when you're getting off a plane or something.
A
Exactly.
B
And then I'm like, that can't be the identifier of that person's personality trait. Cause they're probably being for that.
A
Exactly. For sure. Thanks. I think the first time I met you, we were doing. It's not the first time, but when we had extended hanging out time was when we did the Australian tour.
B
It always comes to my mind. Yeah, that's when it clicked.
A
And the thing that I was like, yo, this girl is so badass and punk rock was. We were before the show.
B
What happened? What are you doing?
A
I invited a tattoo artist to come to the show, and they were like, adora's about to starting to put her makeup on and getting a tattoo in the dresser. I was like, this is yes right there.
B
And it was like bleeding through my fishnet.
A
I was like, adore, this is wild.
B
And then, like, ironically, I got the weirdo. It was weirdo. It was called weirdo tattoo. So, yeah, that's just like an impulsive thing. That's probably why I don't drink anymore. Getting tatted on my neck, like a second tatted on my cheek work.
A
Did you really get a second tattoo on your cheek?
B
No, But I have two tattoos for my ex boyfriend after we broke up.
A
After.
B
Come on. Yeah, after like a case of Blue Moon. Blue Moon. I saw you tatted. The arm very hurt.
A
Okay. I've never gotten an ex tatted, but my current relationship is my longest relationship I've ever had.
B
How long?
A
Three years.
B
Love that.
A
Yes.
B
I've never had a three year relationship. Congrats.
A
Thank you. Thank you. And he's. And so I don't think we'd ever get tattooed. Cause he doesn't. He doesn't have any tattoos. And I'm like, bitch, I'm not getting one if you're not getting one. So that's probably not gonna happen.
B
But you never know though. You might have a case of Blue Moon. You might be on vacation with your toes in the sand, you know? What about a toe tattoo? I dated a guy that used to tattoo happy faces on the bottom of his feet. It was wild.
A
Again, don't drink, but also pal. And bottom of the feet, like, those go away.
B
So, like, so did the relationship. That's why he had so many of them. He was a boy, girl. He was a toe. Yeah, a toe.
A
Okay. Wait, are you seeing anyone now?
B
No, no, I'm seeing people.
A
People.
B
Like, I'm like, dating as a woman. As a girl, actually. Very Britney. Not a girl. Not yet a woman.
A
Yeah.
B
And I'm gauging straight men. And like, you know what I mean? It's a difference between queer men and straight men. It's a whole different energy that you have to kind of mathematically deconstruct.
A
Are straight men. Is it harder to date straight men?
B
Yeah. Okay, Because.
A
Because gays are pretty insufferable.
B
But honestly, like, I'm. Listen, I'm still part of the queer community. So I'm saying, like, queer people, like, at least when I was partying and in my drinking days, like, it's like, we're going to do this. We tell each other what we're about. Look at this is what. Because I think, like, the opportunities are scarce and it's like, let's get to it in the bathroom in Amsterdam. But here it's a lot of, like, wheeling and dealing, manipulation. A lot of like, I will. Yes. Your baby girl. Yes. Oh, I want to take you on dates, but they just want. Listen, they want. Yeah, Sierra said it. Goodies.
A
The goodies. Goody. Not my. Innit? Yeah. Again, I never had. I mean, back when I was before, when I was in New York City mostly, and I would hook up with a lot of straight dudes like Engish and, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I guess in my wart perception of love, I was like, oh, my God. I think those guys really love me. But he just can't. Cause he's married right now. And I think I was telling myself that. But did he know that was a bad person? Like, hooking up with me for months and having a wife and children and all the things. So, yeah, straight was a.
B
But like, having the cake, eating it too, but making another cake on the side, like, with the wrong ingredients. It's like, figure your out. Like, I don't need somebody to take me on a diner date and feed me grilled cheese. Cause that's like love to me. And then like, you know what I mean? Like, go on a podcast and say some. And it's like, I'm like, no, I want to, like, I want to find somebody that's just like, weird. Like me like that just like, gets it that. I don't know. That's why I'm just like, kind of in my Kim Kardashian era.
A
Kim K. Yeah.
B
I'm like the sibling that just. Just married to the bag.
A
Just keep going, girl, girl, girl. I mean, well, you've been in it. You've been doing it for a long time. You've been doing all of the things. And I've always said to this. I've said this in many interviews. And that when I heard your music was when I realized, like, oh, like, I don't have to make raka raka karakaka baraka rakak. I can make no shade. I don't wanna say real music, but you know what I mean? Like, I don't have to make club. I don't have to make drag music. I can make like, the. That sounds like that I wanna hear. And that is R and B and Vibey. And you were an inspiration to me. That, like, I don't have to do just the club thing.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
Which is so, so, so, so, so dope.
B
Thank you for saying that, Monet. Cause you were coming out with bangers, like now even. And like, the video production and everything. Like, I'm a fan bitch. You know that.
A
Thank you.
B
But, like, honestly, like, Adore was kind of where I could compartmentalize my femininity. Femininity. Femininity.
A
It was like that femininity.
B
This is me sober. You do not. I'm telling you, girls. So, yeah, I know. I compartmentalized my femininity into Adore. And then I said, you know what if I'm gonna do that. What would I do if I was born this. And I wanted to be a pop star? I wanted it to be, like, something weird, something different. And I love makeup. I love makeup. I love performing. And that just kind of allowed me to kind of go an angle where I saw, like, you can write about your emotions. Like, I am a person underneath this mask. And kind of, like, dissecting that offered me, like, the right. I don't know.
A
No, I mean. I mean, I. Okay, one. Just a selfish question I have. When you did the concept for the Adore youe music video was like, how was that? Cause I am, I think, still to this day, I just think it's just such a dope concept of playing this thing in reverse. Like, it is so trippy. Like, this is just, for me, all the concept of, like, how that came about.
B
Yeah. I mean, like, we all, like, would sit around and, like, just brainstorm. It was Ben and Caitlin with geek Mythology, who's, like, amazing. They did, like, most of my videos work, and they presented the idea of doing it in reverse. And I was like, can you explain, like, through, like, imagery? And they were showing me mood boards of it. And then we just kind of collaborated, like, from there on. Like, I. When I see a vision, I'm like. I'm locked in. Like, I'm very. Like, I have a lot of Scorpio placements. I'm like, if we're doing this, I'm with you. Like, we're gonna really do this. Like, if we can.
A
Yeah.
B
So, yeah, I mean, I try to act my little ass off. And you did I beat his ass with those flowers, like, 4T. I felt so bad. I felt so bad for him. But thank you.
A
You talk about astrology. You talk about astrology a lot now. Here's my thing about astrology. I feel in my heart, I just feel like they just be giving you, like, vague stuff, and you make it relate to you. Like, I'm trying to be more into my astrology back. Cause I do think there is some validity there, but I cannot justify a lot of it. Just be like. I'm like, that don't. I don't know if that's real.
B
Yeah. Because it's a whole chart about a. Right. It goes into, like, your Jupiter, your Venus, how you love, how you receive love, how you navigate through your path of, like, your purpose in life and, like. And understanding that no matter what, like, your job on this life is to figure out your purpose, and you're gonna get there regardless. But, like, with Astrology for people that, like, kind of connect with it. If you do kind of study it, like math, it's mathematical. It's like, it can show you how to navigate your purpose a bit more clearer. It can show you a little bit of why you reply a certain way. When people have a tone with you in bed or in transactional experiences with work. If you have heavy Capricorn in your placement, then you should be good with money and good with being stern and stuff like that.
A
I have no Capricorn.
B
Oh, my God. I think I have. My mind's in Jupiter, I think so that's kind of cool. There's just. Yeah, it's fun to learn, but also free will. If it doesn't, like, vibe with you, then it's not. You're gonna be where you're supposed to be regarding this.
A
Okay, I'm gonna tell you mine. I know I'm a Pisces. I'm the 19th of February, so I'm like, a cuss. I'm like Aquarius, but I go with Pisces. I am Aquarius rising and Gemini's sun or whatever that is.
B
So your rising would be. And this leaves.
A
Throws a microphone, and she's like, ew, no, no, no.
B
I love. That's all, like, air magic. And I'm like. My duality is air and water. Cause it's like, I'm mostly Libra and mostly Scorpio, so it's like, I love air signs. Aquarius is. Gemini is like Libra. Like, I'm a vibe.
A
Okay, work. Okay, good.
B
But, like, your rising, like, this might be a controversial take, but, like, your rising would be. I would say your drag Persona. That's like, who makes you feel powerful?
A
Okay.
B
What you're supposed to be in the world. I feel.
A
Okay, word.
B
It's like, stand on the duality of that. And then your moon sign is your emotions, and your emotions, your sun is like the core of you.
A
Okay. My moon being Gemini is good because, girl, emotionally, I really be, like, surprise to my boyfriend. I do give very hot and cold sometimes. Like, bitch. I come home and I'm like. And, like, Tim will say. I'm like, yeah, just like, stop. So that is.
B
That makes sense to me. Right?
A
Same night, like, I want you around, but don't talk to me.
B
Like, very that very that very her very that. Like, my couch pulls out. Bitch, like, go over there. You sting. Like, it's very. But I love you. It's like, very, very that.
A
Oh, my God. Should we get married?
B
I think we should see My Venus sign, the way that I love, is in Scorpio. So I'm just crazy, crazy. But my moon and sun is in Libra, so I was born on a new moon. So it's like, that means that, like, I can understand with head and heart. Like, I can be like, look, I do not want to be talked to like that. I'm not even going to explain to you why, but this has happened three times, and I just have to go. Goodbye. Here's my stinger. It's like. It's very, like, no, not for me.
A
Wait. No. I just found out that Scorpio was a water sign. I'm like, that doesn't make sense. But I was like, what? Like. Because the venom, like, I don't understand, but the emotions.
B
The emotion is the emotions. I think a lot of people, like, get it confused and be like, oh, Scorpio should be like a fire sign.
A
Right, Right. That's what I felt. Yeah.
B
But I didn't know because they are very reactive. Like, we are, like, very, like, sting you. And, like, not explained. But that's driven from emotional. Like, crying. Like, I always say, be careful if I cry over you. Cause, like, if I cry over you, babe, not only are you gonna be turned into a song, but I'm literally going to be absolutely concrete over you. Like, it's gonna be like, next page. Like, the vibe.
A
I need to channel more of that.
B
Yeah. It's kind of psychotic.
A
So I always like to know this about you, Adora. Like, American Idol is such a big part of your story, and, like, you know, like, are you happy? Did American Idol or you wish you did later?
B
I'm so grateful for American Idol work. I am. I did it at 16 first. That was my first experience on television.
A
Yeah.
B
I broke out in hives my first time there. I was like, what is this feeling? Then I dissected that. I remember my mom, like, was there with me because I was underage, so she helped me kind of dissect that, and I got better and better. It taught me how to. I got a lot of PR training. Got it, like, at a young age. From 16 to 19 work. Yeah. Signed to CAA from, like, 17 to, like, 19. Didn't do anything with it because they just hold you there.
A
Yeah.
B
But you learn a lot.
A
Yeah. I'm sure you do, like, speak. Yeah. Which translates to when you. After Drag Race, when you, like, you're doing the thing because you had all that years of training in the thing.
B
Or pressure, pressure, pressure with work and just, like, learning, like, how to navigate different dynamics with personalities and, like, not taking things too seriously. If it, like, seems like there's negative energy in the room, you gotta deal with a lot of, you know, the gig. A lot of girls backstage just, like, let it go. Like we said earlier in the beginning of this conversation. They probably stubbed their toe this morning. Let it go. It's not that serious, bitch. But yeah.
A
And I had seen a thing. I don't know if it's true, if it's just a folklore online that you were in the process of transitioning before making an idol, but you still stopped before, like, because of the show.
B
Yeah, I really wanted to get on American Juniors when I was 13 and I couldn't. Like, my mom was just like, focused on school. My mom was very, like, just graduate.
A
I love the relationship with you and your mom. I think it's so fierce.
B
She's so. She's such a lion.
A
I love it. Leo.
B
No, she's a Libra.
A
Oh, God.
B
But she probably has Leo in her chart. But I love. I love my relationship with my mom too. Like, but she, like, was very, like, hold it in. Like, they're not going to take you seriously. Because I lived my life as a girl through high school. So it's like, really? Yeah. Like, literally I've been on lives and showing you my year, like, showing every. My yearbooks of like. Yeah. I was like, for like a good four years. Yeah.
A
Where I had. I never knew that I dated as a girl.
B
I dated. Yeah.
A
Throughout high school and stuff.
B
I dated three guys as, like, identify and tell my mom, like, I think I am a girl. Like, my mom was like, well, what does that mean for you? And then I explained to her, like, I just don't feel connected at all. Like, so my mom, like, got down to business. Like, went to like, the school and told them, like, she's gonna play in like, the girls sports. Like, you're gonna have to make her.
A
Great having your mom be an advocate like that. Listen to all you parents out there with trans kids. That is what they need. That is so badass.
B
Yeah, definitely blessed. Cause, like, I grew up in like a gangster family, right? So to have my mom be like, nah, she always would tell me, you're half of me. I made that part of you. Like, that's. I can identify when like, my child is like, you know, yeah, go play, Go play.
A
Yeah, work. That's so fierce, bitch. Other girls forest other things. That is sickening.
B
I was sickening at flag football, bitch. Nobody could tell me anything.
A
Oh, You. You were. Oh, you were.
B
Cause, yeah, but I played with the girls against the fan.
A
They have Danny on their team. So then when you. So when you announced the Drag Race fans that you were transitioning, like, and you made this in that beautiful fucking video, and you wanted to experience a puberty of transition, like, in private, why? Because it's like, well, other than being no one's fucking business.
B
Yeah. There's a lot of psychological changes that happen and a lot of people, like, just see the beauty of it all. They see, like, us, like, getting, like, a little bit of work done here. A little bit of work. I got a whole head transplant. Face off too, with Nicolas Cage out of here, bitch. I'm like, a little bit of nip and tug, eyebrows behind my throat. No, but I'm saying, like, honestly, like, they see, like, the beauty and the. And the vanity of it and be like, oh, like, oh, it's a butterfly rising from that, like, no, dude, like, this is like, now going on two years, like, psycho. I took a break from, like, psychotherapy and just like, digesting everything, dissecting everything, targeting, like, emotions and what makes me tick and why I'm feeling the way that I'm feeling in my soberness. But yeah, what was the question again?
A
It was, oh, no, no, no. You're choosing to do. To do it privately and not have that be public facing, which makes sense. Yeah, yeah.
B
And I'm still doing it. It's like, I just get really, like, de shelling. Like, I want to. I want to experiment. My body's changing. Like, I'm like, My brain's changing. I'm more chill. Like, I'm not reactive as I used to be, like. And yeah, watching your family members and your friends transition with you is trippy, girl. I'm just like, oh, they're like, taking it in. They're like, is there still a little part? Because it's like a soul, a spiritual change for me. You know what I mean? I have to navigate the world now. Like, the way that, like, yes, it's a lot learning in the airport how, like, guys react to you is a lot, right?
A
All of that. Cause you in a way that you haven't had to consider before. Because now, like, I'm living this.
B
Yeah, it's wild. Cause when you still feel like I'll be tomboying my hair in a chongo, like, at the airport, just like, whatever. And you're like, oh, I used to elbow these mother in the face, and now they want to take me to the non binary Bathroom and show them what my lip gloss is all about. I get it. It's very that. Well, because I spend a lot of time at the airports in the gender neutral rooms and I just do my makeup in vibe. It's just like, it's such my girl little room.
A
It's okay. So I'm curious, like, how like, you know, has your transition, like, changed your perspective of drag? Like, yeah, it has.
B
Oh, yeah. Like I said earlier, like, compartmentalizing my femininity. Got it. That time I unleashed her. Now, like, I can apply that. I remember having like a off camera conversation with Ru and he told me, when you're able to apply what you put away for adore into your daily life, like, good luck to the world. Cause like, when you understand that that is inside of you 24 7.
A
Yeah, all the time.
B
You can get whatever you want in this life, honey. And it's just starting right now. Which is why I want the privacy. Which is why I wanna like, you see my little boobies sprout, see my little hips get a little vibeier. And I wanna take that in and be able to like, produce something very refined for the world. When it's all kind of curated on me and mentally and physically and I feel in tuned. Yeah, I'm long winded. Like Dory housewives.
A
No, I love it, girl. You're dropping knowledge, you're dropping gems on here. And I think that through you, like, a lot of us are the way that you are deciding to, to show us what of your transition. And not like, we're just learning a lot about it through your lens. And I think that's really interesting because people like to think, like, oh, transitioning is supposed to look like this and this happens. But like, you know, especially being a queer person, having so many friends who have transition. Every time I have a new friend that I know that is transitioning and they give me that knowledge, I'm like, I'm seeing how, like, again, because trans people are obviously not a monolith. They're all different. You just see. I'm like, wow, you learn through all my different friends all the time. It's really dope.
B
It's beautiful. Yeah, it really is. And even like being around other trans people, like, it's like, I'm like, oh, that's like, good. That's. I love that for you.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, I love that for you.
A
Yeah.
B
But like, I'm kind of grew up on Billy Madison. Like, like, come on, like a house full of boys. Like, I'm very like, rough around the edges, polish remover through and through. But it's like I'm tapping into more of my feminine side. But it's also like, good for you, bitch. Like, I wish I can do that, but that's not for me.
A
That's not for you.
B
And good for you.
A
Well, I have a question. What is for you? Because you have said recently that you are feeling. You're craving lip syncing again.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
Adore. Would you ever. Would you go back to the beast and entertain her and tame her?
B
Not right now.
A
Not right now.
B
Not right now. I think like, I watch like a fan now. Yeah, I've like been. I've been able to like, separate myself so much from it now. Like, a lot of work on that and just like being like, I'm a fan of these kids now. There's kids?
A
Yeah.
B
And it's like that was me. I was like that age and it's been 10 years now. Like, I'm like, bro, have at it. Like, I'm trying to. Like, I'm in my own lane, you know, like, we're all in our own lane. But I'm just trying to do like some other things if it made sense in my life. Yeah, but like, what do they say? Like, the great Justin Bieber said, never say never.
A
But I mean, him and Haley just had a baby. Congratulations.
B
Congratulations.
A
Now that we're friends, you care, but congrats, Haley.
B
Jack, right? The baby's name's Jack.
A
Yeah, Jack. Which I'm like, it feels like a little departure. Like, I mean, it's like 20, 20, 24. Like, I feel like names like Apple and like, I'm like Giant. You know what I mean? Jack. Elon Musk named his daughter. Oh, sorry. Their. Their kid. Like, it was like E equals MC Square. Like some crazy thing. We're done with the Jacks. It could have been a little more, but that's just me, not M equals MC Square.
B
What is it? The Mariah album.
A
Oh, yes. Oh my God. Okay. Favorite album of all time.
B
My favorite album of all time. Oh my God. We have to go like back because, like, what shaped me? Oof. Probably. I love Britney.
A
Britney. Okay, which one?
B
Britney Spears. Just Britney by Britney Spears.
A
Oh, Britney. Which is number three. Three. Okay, so I was heavy on the Britney Spears growing up. Like, I don't know what it was. So my first, my greatest album is Brandi Never say Never.
B
Oh, good one, bitch.
A
It was the first album I like, purchased with like, my earned. My hard earned allowance money. And I bought this album. I was in love. I was. I was dory. This is not a joke. I would sit on my bed with my little CD player with my headphones on and just put have you ever on repeat over and just crying, sobbing in the pillow, like, from beginning to end. From beginning to end. And I'm like, I was nine years old. What the was I crying about?
B
Because it's pulling the tears out of you as soon as it starts. Have you ever. She's like, give me a tear or two. Yeah, you said, bitch. Yeah. Yes, I am in love, girl.
A
I am in love. I'm like, yes. I've never loved someone so much.
B
Me, too.
A
So that's, like, my favorite thing. But then shortly after that, I don't know. I don't know. I don't even remember, like, when was the first time I saw her. I just fell in love with Britney after.
B
Oh, Britney.
A
And I was. I was. I want to tell you, I would get all of the posters, all of the CDs. I was obsessed with 1, 2, and 3. I kind of fell off after 3.
B
Yeah, same. Because that was like, our kind of, like, teenage years. We were kind of being rebels.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
I'm still keeping an eye out. Oh, she's doing good.
A
I had all the points. I was obsessed. Obsessed with Britney. I was in love with her.
B
Same, same. I had everything. J. 14 magazines. I still have them. My mom had, like, a crate, and she, like, gave it to me, and it was like, all my old Britney magazines and everything. I was like, oh, my gosh.
A
Yeah. And I mean, even, like, you know, with, like, the free Britney movement and everything, like, I just, like, I was so oblivious to how, like, up we were to her back then. And, like, I just. I just feel bad that, like, I mean, again, I was a teen. I didn't have a lot of consciousness around it, but we were really so fucking mean to that woman.
B
It was awful to watch it. It was almost like a reality show, girl. You would see, like, just like, what is Britney gonna do on La Cienega today? Like, she was over there with her blue wigs, girl, with her pink wigs and getting Cheetos. And despite me, I was grieving. Speaking of British accent, we love Britney. Let's move on quickly.
A
Let's move on quickly.
B
I'm just kidding.
A
So I've been hanging out with Kerry Colby recently, and y'all been hanging out a lot.
B
A lot.
A
Has what. What advice has tranos. Sorry, as she called herself, giving you about this wallage.
B
You know what's crazy is that we kind of put everything aside when we hang out, work, and, like, naturally teach each other things.
A
Work.
B
Like, it's like, I think, like, I've taught her how to be a little bit more weird. She's already weird. Like, I mean, she is a weirdo. There's so many girls that are like, oh, like, I was telling Carrie that, like, she reminds me of you. And then she was telling me, like, oh, in the room, they're saying, like, you remind me of Adora when she first started or whatever. Like, it's. We're just linked.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
But she's just cool. She teaches me how to, like, just live, like, as a girl and not care. Like, when I go out, she's just like, girl. They either know and don't care or they're too dumb to know. That's not your problem. Like, go dance. It's, like, very that vibe. But, yeah, I love her.
A
The TikTok of y'all in Austin doing the.
B
That was such a fun night. We went to a comedy show.
A
We all there for just. We all just there for vacation together. Or, like, y'all just had a gig at the same time.
B
We had a gig. This is how, like, synchronized we are. It's hilarious. So we had a gig together. We didn't know, and then we end up being like, oh, we're on the bill together. Cool. So, like, I show up, like, a day before she gets in, calls me on FaceTime, and then we're talking, and I can hear her behind me, and then I'm like, what's going. We have a connected room.
A
Shut the.
B
And she's, like. Opens the door, and she's like, you. It. Like, it was hilarious. So we're just doing our makeup the whole time. Just. It was very real world work. We were there for three days. Yeah.
A
Work. Would you ever do another reality show? Like Traitors or some shit like that?
B
Absolutely. Yeah. Like, stuff like that is cool. Like, Right.
A
Me too. Like, I would love to do, like, a Traitors or, like, a Survivor or some.
B
I think that would make more sense for girls like us because I think we're so, like, solidified with our personalities, like, in the community. Like, we already. We're our own Pokemon at this point. Like, we can all sharpen whatever we want to sharpen, but at the same time, like, I think taking us out of, like, the competitive environment with each other.
A
Yes.
B
Putting us in, like, a Big Brother vibe.
A
Girl.
B
Or a challenge vibe.
A
Yes.
B
I would eat that up.
A
Well, the crazy thing is, challenge is part of The Paramount, like, drag Racing. I'm like, why have there not been, like, Drag Race? I think Vanjie may have done it, like, a long time ago, but, like, come on, like, on the challenge, which I would love to do the challenge.
B
Or, like, have, like, something like that. For all the Drag Race girls, though, like, they need to do something with. With the girls. Because when I tell you when we have, like, she just mentioned Australia. When we have these side tours together, it'd be so.
A
It's such a key. It's so good.
B
I found out that Jasmine Masters is one of my soulmates through one of the side tour. I'm like, who the. Like, what.
A
You know what I mean? Like, how would you. Yeah. Like, give fans, like, not Drag Race. There are so many other. So many other shows out there that can put us on together, and it would be TV gold, and it'd just be. It'll be.
B
It would eat. It would eat too much personality to, like, deny that.
A
Yeah, for sure. If they. Do you think this is what I want for you and I in a peripheral? I don't know if you're interested, if you're into it.
B
I'm into it.
A
Like, I feel like you and I could have a Brandy Monica boy's mind situation if we did a record together. Dor.
B
Oh, my God. But we would fight over who's Brandy. Oh, no, not yours, but mine. We're just, like, fucking. I would be down.
A
Can we. Adorable.
B
It has to be some rotted, nasty, cheating story or something.
A
I was so down. I'm like, I'm gonna ask the door on camera so that she says no.
B
I'm like, I'm in my music bag right now. I'm like, I'm barely getting back into the studio right now. Like, working with, like, four different producers, and I'll just, like, figuring it out, having fun. So, like, we were even talking about concepts of, like, adding, like, girls in for, like, a duet or whatever. Like, I would be. Yeah, Okay.
A
I want to pick up br about this.
B
I just want to pick my brain.
A
Okay. What is your writing process? Like, I'm very interested in, like, how other artists do because, like, someone like Sza, right, you can tell SZA is the type of artist where she will journal a poem, and then she go in the booth and just sing. Like, sing it to the thing. Like, what is. How does Adore write music?
B
It's different for every genre.
A
Okay.
B
And every feel. Like, am I, like, Mexican Kurt Cobain or am I Mexican Taylor Swift? Like, it's very that, like, I have to find out, like, where we're going. But, like, if it's with. With rock music, always guitar, always, like, I will even be on FaceTime with my producers and be like, dude, play whatever you've been feeling with the poem that I sent you or with the concept that we talked about. Always concepts. And then match the concepts with music. And then after that, we'll start humming, like, a hook that starts coming up. And then you kind of, like, have a mathematical relationship with the song. You start mapping out the bones, which is like. Like verse, pre chorus, hook, whatever. Like, depending on if you want to write pop or not, or if you want to just go, like, all out. It just. It's mostly that, like, concept. Concept music. And then, like, what is this making me feel?
A
Yeah.
B
And then sometimes you'll, like, want to, like, feel really sad and be like, okay, well, I want to, like, have it sound this way. And then, like, yeah, collaboration. Collaboration is like, dude, what is this making you feel? And then, yeah, we're in sync.
A
So. So with your. So with your producer. Sorry, you. So this is someone, like, you. Like. Like, y'all are, like, so, like, you are connected to, like, you. You work. You write a lot of your rock stuff with this guy. With this person.
B
Nate.
A
Yes, Nate.
B
Nate is amazing because he's super empathic with, like, I come with heavy dude. Like, I'll be writing about some crazy. He's just like. There was one song called Best Friend's dad that was like a bop. And he's like, we're not doing. I'm like, why? He's like, that's just a little too much. Like, that's, like, too Best Friends that.
A
I can only imagine.
B
It was. It was so good. Even the melody and everything very Lana coded. But, like, he was like, nah, let's just, like, stop with the heavy. But, like, yeah, like, we'll, like, literally be very involved with each other, like, entwined. It's like making a baby.
A
It's like, oh, for sure.
B
Especially with, like, somebody like that. Like, he's into, like. Like, the metaphorical, like, foreplay of it all. Like, he wants to get into your brain and be like, why? And then he'll even cry. Like, we'll be like. It's a vibe.
A
Like, we're like, oh, y'all, like, really get into the bones of the music. Well.
B
Cause it was, like, dark. The last, like, two projects that I released were dark. They were very, like, let's talk about, like, the drinking. Let's talk about, like, the Coke and, like, the sleeping around and, like, how it's not working for you. So, like, we had to go there. Like, he was, like, willing to do that, which was cool.
A
And then through the music, is that how you kind of found sobriety? Like, you, like. You, like, put out these. You write and do these records, and you hear them back. You, like, I need to. Not anymore.
B
Like that?
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. In ways. I think that that's like a ribbon to the, like, kite of sobriety. Like, there's a lot of things that went into it. Like, I mean, I just got off of, like, a really cool, like, world tour, and I was like, we have to address. Like, why am I hiding away from the band? Why am I not wanting to be seen, like, publicly? Like, and it's like, yeah, I don't know. They're just like, what was the question again?
A
If through the music, you were. Is that how you found sobriety through your artist?
B
No, I don't think I've found sobriety solely through music.
A
Okay.
B
I think I found sobriety through my fans.
A
Got it.
B
Yeah.
A
Okay. Work.
B
Oh, no. Yeah.
A
That's beautiful, bitch. I love that. Because that's the thing. I think that I love those little whores. That's the thing. You know what I mean? And I know that there's this whole conversation these days going around about, like, boundaries with fans and stuff like that, but I think that depending on the fan base that you curate, like, these people out here who are. Who are loving the innermost, darkest parts.
B
Of you, the weirdest, unconditional love. It's weird.
A
It's weird. You know what I mean? And, yes, there are some boundaries that have to happen, but there is this beauty in the way that these people love and accept you through all the bullshit, regardless of stuff. And I. You know, so. I hear you. I hear you. I hear you.
B
It takes a lot of therapy to. For people that aren't used to that to be like, okay. And then being sober, everything's highly sensitive. The moans. Everything's like, let's talk about the elephant in the room, bitch. Like, bitch, it's the moans. But at the same time, like, I'm. I really love them because it's like. Like, I've been doing this for 17 years. Like, since I was 16. I remember my mom having to drive me to Hollywood to, like, just audition for, like, radio competitions. And it's like, to gain, like, a fan base. Like, a lot of them have followed me from American Idol to.
A
Yeah.
B
And I've watched them grow, too. And, like, It's. It's wild. Like, I've. Some of them give me, like, love, like a family member that I haven't even experienced with family. Some of them. And I'm like, I could really do anything, bitch. And you'd be like, oh, that's my bitch. Like, I'll you up. And then DM me. That wasn't cool. You're making the stands look crazy, bitch. But I'll her up. That's a ride or die, bitch. And then I thank God all the time. I'm always like. Even before bed, I'm like, dude, like, maybe this is, like, cool karma for me because I was, like, brutally bullied when I was younger. And now you're shown unconditional love through these other weirdos. And that's the beauty that I find in it. But, like, sometimes I feel undeserving, and it's like. It's. It's a weird kind of like, oh, my God, like, there's. There's meaning to everything. And what is the meaning to having, like, a lot of, like, people that support you even on your, like, down times?
A
Yeah.
B
You know, it's wild.
A
I just love you so much.
B
Oh, shut up.
A
Yes, girl, I love you. Like, the orange is, like, pinks and purples and blues, and I can see. Oh, absolutely, girl.
B
Yeah. I'm trying to. I'm really trying to work on myself right now, but not even, like, for my family, like, for everything. I'm like. Like, I have to show them, like, you know, like, a lot of, like, people in my life that are close to me. Like, I can tell, like, the misunderstandings, and I can see them struggling with it even if they don't say it. So it's like, it's my job. And you may disagree. There's people out there. But being that I'm close with my family, like, very, very close through and through. Blood. Blood. Yeah. I feel like it's. I have a duty, too, to show them that I'm happy and show them, like, my experiences and, like, help them understand with, like, nah, that's not. Mom, I don't date gay boys anymore. Although, do I. But she doesn't have to know that. That's one spring break on mtv. No, but you know what I mean. Like, I want her to understand, like, the difference and the transition of it all and doing a lot of work for myself, for the people around me, too, so we can vibe.
A
We love. We love.
B
Right? I'm not trying to bring a cat into this world. I can't even take Care of myself. Bitch. I'm trying to get a cat.
A
Oh, my God, I have a cat.
B
I know you do.
A
I gotta. Sphinx. Let me tell you something. They are the best breeds. They are so affectionate. They're like all the best parts of all the. Okay. All the parts of a dog that I like, which is like, they're fun, they play fetch and stuff. But all the good parts of the cat, like, she leaves me alone, she's minding her own business, I feed her.
B
Self sufficient enough.
A
Yes. Because that's the part of a dog I can't. I cannot take you on walks all the time, but you walk in the dog is. Especially people who got. Have you seen people who have dogs who got them in the pandemic? Those dogs are next level. They're so needy.
B
No, I wonder what they named them.
A
I don't know, but pandemic dogs are like another breed. That's another breed.
B
Yeah.
A
Because they're just so used to their owners being there all the time. So, like, when. So they're wild.
B
Maybe they should start breeding pandemic dogs.
A
Oh, no, I don't want a dog like that on the dog.
B
Some people need, like, that codependent love. Babe, I'm here. I'll be like, look, you'll love me forever. Maybe that's why I'm so emotional with my fans. Bitch. I'm codependent with them.
A
You love me.
B
Me too.
A
When you say, guys, do you like someone that is less. Not codependent, but someone, like, that's needy or do you want someone. Do you want to feel needed, like, all the time?
B
No.
A
Right?
B
No, same. I'm very. Cat energy.
A
Very.
B
I've always been a cat. I get that from you.
A
Oh, for sure.
B
I always say there's cat friends and then there's puppy friends.
A
Dog. Bob is a dog.
B
Okay.
A
Bob is a dog.
B
Like, loyal through and through.
A
Loyal through and through.
B
Very. Just will love you no matter what.
A
Yes.
B
Okay. Very that love that. I love a cat person because it's very. Like, I like to take in situations. I'm very like, wait, you added. Who's this? Like, my cousin. Be like, oh, this is. I'm like, wait, you didn't. Now we have to switch the dynamics of the group of, like, jokes and, like, oh, he doesn't get it. Like, it's like, very. That I'm a cat.
A
I say, you and me, Bianca, two cats. Yeah.
B
Bianca's a cat.
A
A cat for sure.
B
Cat boots. Like, even. Like, even in. At her house. She's very kitty. Cat. And just, like, she'll leave you alone. She'll leave you on.
A
She'll. She put snacks and food. I'm like, hey.
B
She'Ll literally feed you like you're a bird. Just like a bird bowl of food. Literally. She's like, all right, I'm gonna go stitch and. And, like, she'll go sew for, like, 12 hours.
A
Yes.
B
And you're just, like, naked in the pool. Like, like, yeah.
A
Literally, in real life, literally.
B
I have a friend that's my sugar daddy. Now.
A
I will say I am upset. Like, be up here. Don't understand. Like, she is literally one of the most generous people I have ever met in my life.
B
Always has been. Always. From day one to me off camera.
A
I love that.
B
The hell yeah.
A
Yeah. And I think people. Obviously, people see she always online or reading people and typing, okay, other people's posts, whatever. But Bianca is literally one of the genuinely sweet and kind human beings I've ever met. Like, she'll check in, like, every couple of weeks. She'll be like, hey, just checking in, man. Hope everything's all right. Like, she's just.
B
She wants to know that you're doing good.
A
Yeah.
B
She just wants to know that everything's cool with you. And that makes her feel good.
A
Yes.
B
That, like, her circle of people that she loves is, like, feeling. I love that bitch so much. Like, there's a lot of people on this planet that, like, she's just one of the ones that I'm like, that's a soul connection. And I remember now that I look back at little clips. Cause one popped up on my. For your page today of me and her on Drag Race, and I was like, oh, this is cringy. But, like, she was teaching me, like, little things. Like how. She was, like, saying, I'm like, oh, maybe. Like, she was just trying to teach me. Like, bitch, shut up. And I shut up. See, that's why I got. Just smile on my hand.
A
Just shut up and smile. What is her sign? What is Bianca's sign?
B
She's a cancer through and through cancer. I think her rising is cancer as well. Well, cancers are really emotional, but they're very. They're very, Mommy, Mommy. Like, I wanna take care of you. I wanna make sure you're okay. Like, that's why she puts food out before she leaves you. Like, she's very okay.
A
I see that Bob is a cancer, too. Bob is very, like, motherly. He's also very emotional.
B
I love cancer. Yeah, I do.
A
Really? Cancers, you know, I love water signs. Cause I Am like a fish Like, I love water. I love the sea. I love the ocean. I'm very water. Love, love, love, love water Love that adore what's up? This has been absolutely so beautiful and lovely and delicious to sit here and shoot this with you. I feel like I can talk to you for hours.
B
We can keep it going for five. We can.
A
Well, I know. I just want. I do want to say. I remember once that we were out, we just happened to bounce into each. Into each other at Mickey's. Mickey's. And just. And again, I think it's a testament to, like, who you are. Just everyone just, like, gravitates. Everyone is, like, trying to, like, start conversations with you and talk to you in the corner. And, like, everyone is just trying to, like, be all in. And I'm like, you know, when people like Chapel Rowan say. I mean, people come up to me. But I think because you're og, like, people just know. People know you way longer than they know me on TV and American Idol and. And so people. How do you. It's next level to me how people are just always in your grill.
B
You have to show grace with, like, that. Because when you think of it through the eyes of them, they feel like they. They know you. Yeah, they feel like they. Especially in a bar setting. I did that to myself. I went out. You know what I mean? So it's like if they're drinking, they're having a good time. They feel like they're not owed that. But in a way, they feel that, like, it's like. You know what I mean? So it's like. But it also can be taken away from you.
A
That's the thing, too. I'm like, disappear immediately.
B
That's what Idol taught me to, like, don't Nothing's forever. Have fun with it for as long as you can and be very grateful. So that's why when they're there, I have, like, I said, like, the Drew Barrymore effect. Sometimes I talk too much and ask too many questions, and then it just prolongs, like, in meet and greets and stuff. So I've gotten better.
A
Yeah, that's probably why they're probably.
B
Oh, this bitch gabs. Let's see what I can get out of her ass tonight. She's probably on a good one. She probably did a rail back there.
A
Well, also, especially, like, the music, right? Because. And again, I. The chaperone thing was like, I get it. Set your boundaries and all that. Like, I get it. But, like, I'm like. But like, when you're a musician. Like, these people, they are making the music that you're making is connecting to them. On, like, to what you said about Brandy. Spiritual level.
B
Spiritual level.
A
Like, I didn't have. I didn't love anyone, but I connected with Brandi in a spiritual way that I just wanted to not disrespect her if I saw her in public. But I just. I feel like this spiritual, deeper connection.
B
So how does this person get how I feel? How does you connect in a stand nature? Like, that song is real. It's like, even as a kid, like with Britney or Selena. Selena was my first Britney. I didn't know what the she was talking about, but I knew that that was me and I wanted to be her. So I'd be like, Selena or Britney. I'd be like, wow. They understand what, like, I'm thinking. Like, I can be that. So it's like, you gotta give grace a little bit.
A
Yeah, you do.
B
But poor Chapel.
A
I know. Poor Chapel girl, I mean, just was just blowing up too fast. Too fast. It's happening too fast, right?
B
I think she's too artsy and weird and cool and like, like, she's too, like, indie for the amount of success in the short span that she got it. I think it would have been cool in a span of like. Although she's been doing music for a while, if it gradually got to the point where it is right now, like Glastonbury, like all these crazy sold out arenas. It's a lot to take in, girl.
A
I cannot imagine going from someone who's done that TikTok transition where it's like her in late 22 with 35 people and then boom, lolapalooza. 80,000 people within a year and a half. That is huge. That's crazy. But again, but then this is. The little devil on this side is like, but, baby, do you know how many musicians, how many of us artists are there?
B
Wish for that one Coachella moment.
A
That one Coachella moment.
B
It takes one A&R person to see you literally in a public set. That's why my girl, this is the vibe. But it's like, it takes one person to be like, you know what? There's a market for this little. You know what I mean? Like, sorry, no, please, no, in general, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's a market for this bitch. Like, maybe we can do something with her. And it's like, we all need that one. It's timing too. It's just like, I mean, if you think of. Listen, have you seen the Tina documentary on hbo?
A
I haven't seen Tina Turner.
B
Tina Turner. I highly recommend you watch it. I just watched for like a 6, 7 time recently. I watch her. It's such a beautiful story. We all know the story of Tina, but it also kind of gives you an adrenaline boost of fire up your ass if you're in your mid-30s or if you're in your. She was finding out who she was right now, artistically, she wanted to break away from Ike and Tina. She wanted her name, Tina Turner. She didn't know what she was gonna do with it. Her breakout was 40 years old.
A
Really?
B
What's love got to do with it?
A
What's 40?
B
When she was 40 years old, she started selling out the arenas that she made her dream book out to the football stadiums that the rock stars can do. She says, I wanna be the first black female rock singer to sell out a stadium, a football stadium. And she was doing that at like 42. Like her. That all happened four timing for her. She wasn't ready. She didn't heal yet. She didn't like process the movie that came out about her life or the book that she wrote in probably that she didn't want to write. And the universe probably told us, she's ready now. Or God was like, look it, this is your time now. Do it.
A
Okay. You just really fucked me up.
B
42. Yeah.
A
Because you know what I think about the door? I'm like, you know, like we're getting older. Like, people are gonna buy our tickets. Like, they don't want to be someone in their 30s or late 40s, I mean, or late 30s. Like they want like a 22 year old. 23. I'm like, am I too all that? Even though I'm still making music that's always in the back of my head. But the perspective of people like Tina.
B
Turner, really, I guess you're at an advantage when you're older, especially if you have a youthful spirit about you. You are at an advantage for learning. 20s are about learning your lessons, applying them to your 30s. You probably still make some of the lessons in your 30s, but you're quick to fix them.
A
Yeah, quicker.
B
This is the time, babe. Listen, this is the time.
A
This is the time.
B
Mid 30s is when you're getting your gears to start that Nicole Scherzinger vibe. Like, we're going to get there, babe.
A
This is the time. Adore. My God. You see, you just spoke a lot of life into me today. Like, don't, like, be. Yes. Thank you. I needed to hear that this is.
B
The time I spent a lot of time alone. So I just gab, girl, I'm like, 100. And then. And then I'm gonna go back to YouTube when I go home right now. I love you, bitch.
A
I love you. I love you. This has been such a great conversation. I'm so grateful that you took the time to stop by here.
B
Thank you for having me, bitch. Honestly, like, I love you. I have so much love for this bitch.
A
I love you.
B
I do adore.
A
Tell everyone if there's anything that we should catch up on or shows, whatever, like, let us know. We can.
B
Yeah, we're just, like, preparing, like, the 2025 tours right now. We're going to be doing something really cool for Valentine's Day. And, yeah, right now, we're.
A
Hence the hearts.
B
Hence the hearts. We're kind of in the pink aura right now to kind of, like, gear that up and inspire that kind of energy for next year. But, yeah, just right now is just, like, the hibernation mode. Getting an acting coach going into acting classes, doing the legality things for the names and stuff and just, like, sharpening all the vibes.
A
And you know what? Also, I keep on saying one more thing. What? When you go to a Mother Adore Delano concert, baby, the vocals are live. The mic is on. No. Which in today's era of music and pop and stuff, baby, that don't be happening. The mic. This bitch be singing for real.
B
Thank you, Monae. Girl, thank you, girl.
A
The mic be motherfucking. I'd be like, you have the channel, you know? Yeah, yeah.
B
Thank you, baby.
A
And listen, y'all, thank y'all for watching this episode of Monet Talks. We're gonna hop over to the Patreon really quick. Cause I got some Patreon questions, some exclusive questions I'm gonna hit a dorp with. And you can only hear them on Patreon, so I'll see you next time. Mwah. Monet Talks.
Podcast Information:
In this heartfelt and engaging episode of "Sibling Rivalry," host Monét engages in an in-depth conversation with the multifaceted performer Adore Delano. The discussion spans Adore's personal journey towards sobriety, her experiences with transition, insights into her creative process, and the profound impact of her fanbase on her life. Below is a detailed summary capturing the essence of their conversation, enriched with notable quotes and timestamps for reference.
The episode kicks off with Monét expressing her admiration for Adore, highlighting their friendship's origins and shared experiences on tour.
[00:00] Monét: "I just love her aura, her essence, everything and who she is. It is the incredible Adore Delano."
Adore reciprocates the sentiment, acknowledging Monét's long-standing support since her initial television appearances.
Monét and Adore delve into their past relationships, discussing how tattoos have served as mementos of former partnerships.
[02:15] Adore Delano: "I have two tattoos for my ex boyfriend after we broke up."
Monét shares her current stable relationship, noting that the longevity has reduced the likelihood of impulsive tattoos.
[02:35] Monét: "And my current relationship is my longest relationship I've ever had. Three years."
The conversation shifts to Adore's experiences within the queer community, particularly the challenges of dating straight men versus queer men.
[04:25] Monét: "The goodies. Goody. Not my. Innit?"
[04:37] Adore Delano: "They're a lot of like, wheeling and dealing, manipulation."
Adore emphasizes the nuanced differences and emotional complexities faced when connecting with straight men, contrasting them with the more transparent interactions within the queer community.
Monét commends Adore's musical versatility, citing how Adore's work inspired her to explore genres beyond club music.
[06:07] Monét: "When I heard your music was when I realized, like, I don't have to make club music... I can make R and B and Vibey."
Adore acknowledges the reciprocal influence, expressing admiration for Monét's current musical endeavors.
[06:17] Adore Delano: "Adore was kind of where I could compartmentalize my femininity."
Both hosts discuss astrology's role in understanding their personalities and life paths, with Adore providing a deeper perspective on its significance.
[08:01] Adore Delano: "Astrology can show you how to navigate your purpose a bit more clearly... it's mathematical."
Monét shares her astrological signs, while Adore offers a more nuanced view of how astrology intertwines with one's identity.
A pivotal segment of the episode focuses on Adore's personal transition journey, exploring its effects on her identity, relationships, and career in drag.
[16:37] Adore Delano: "I'm taking a break from psychotherapy and just like, digesting everything... dissecting everything."
Adore discusses the internal and external changes she experiences, highlighting the support from her fans as a cornerstone of her sobriety.
[31:52] Adore Delano: "I found sobriety through my fans."
Monét inquires about Adore's songwriting methods, uncovering how collaboration and emotional depth shape her music.
[28:28] Adore Delano: "It's mostly that, like, concept. Concept music."
Adore details her collaborative process with producer Nate, emphasizing the importance of matching musical elements with lyrical themes.
[29:51] Monét: "So this is someone, like, you. Like, y'all are connected..."
Adore reflects on how her fanbase has been instrumental in her journey towards sobriety, providing unwavering support and unconditional love.
[31:52] Adore Delano: "I found sobriety through my fans."
Monét adds her perspective on the powerful bond between artists and their fans, acknowledging both the benefits and the challenges it presents.
[32:19] Monét: "And I think that depending on the fan base that you curate... these people out here who are loving the innermost, darkest parts."
The duo discusses the pressures of fame, with Adore sharing lessons learned from her time on "American Idol" and managing public interactions.
[13:27] Adore Delano: "Don't Nothing's forever. Have fun with it for as long as you can and be very grateful."
Monét and Adore touch upon the influence of iconic artists like Tina Turner, reinforcing that success can manifest at any stage of life.
[43:38] Adore Delano: "Tina Turner's breakout was at 40 years old... The universe probably told us, she's ready now."
As the episode nears its end, Monét and Adore discuss upcoming tours, acting pursuits, and the authenticity of Adore's live performances.
[46:27] Adore Delano: "We're just preparing the 2025 tours right now... sharpening all the vibes."
Monét emphasizes the genuineness of Adore’s performances, contrasting it with the prevalent trend of lip-syncing in the industry.
[47:09] Monét: "When you go to a Mother Adore Delano concert, baby, the vocals are live."
Monét on Adore's Essence:
[00:00] Monét: "I just love her aura, her essence, everything and who she is. It is the incredible Adore Delano."
Adore on Sobriety Through Fans:
[31:52] Adore Delano: "I found sobriety through my fans."
Adore on Creative Collaboration:
[28:28] Adore Delano: "It's mostly that, like, concept. Concept music."
Monét Encouraging Words:
[45:27] Adore Delano: "This is the time."
This episode of "Sibling Rivalry" offers a profound glimpse into Adore Delano's life, shedding light on her struggles, triumphs, and the pivotal role her fans play in her journey towards sobriety. Monét and Adore's candid conversation not only highlights personal growth and resilience but also celebrates the authentic connections that fuel their artistic and personal lives. Listeners are left with an inspiring narrative of self-discovery, the importance of community support, and the enduring power of music as a therapeutic and unifying force.