Sibling Advicery: Antivaxxers/Makeup 101

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – Sibling Advicery: Antivaxxers/Makeup 101

Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob The Drag Queen
Date: May 16, 2022

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Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry is the iconic advice call-in special, lovingly dubbed “Sibling Advicery.” Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen lend their razor-sharp wit and candid takes to a backlog of listener dilemmas—covering everything from queer love triangles to family anti-vax drama to beginner makeup routines. True to form, they tackle each question with empathy, no-nonsense realness, hilarious banter, and plenty of drag culture references.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Disclaimers: Not Doctors, Just Drag Queens (00:10 – 00:39)

• The hosts open with their standard disclaimer: “We are not doctors... not even a little bit.” (Monét, 00:18)
• The pair emphasize that their advice is for entertainment, not professional life guidance.

2. Drag Vernacular, Iconic Tweets & RuPaul's Queens (01:02 – 06:00)

• Bob and Monét discuss differences in slang among queer and straight cultures, with Bob noting, “I think loads is pretty queer coded.” (Bob, 01:36)
• The duo quizzes each other on RuGirl tweets, revealing how closely they track their drag peers’ social media styles (e.g., Peppermint, Gottmik, Tatiana).

3. Drag Tour Stories & Queen Drama (06:00 – 09:30)

• Bob recounts “drag queen resistance” on the Season 8 promo tour, including orchestrating an anonymous protest email among castmates to avoid a 6-hour party bus in drag:

  “I drafted a letter and I emailed it to all the girls and I told everyone to send the email at the exact same time so that we were all actually together...” (Bob, 07:54)

• Discussion of feisty drag personalities: “Trinity is always fighting people. Like, fighting her followers. Like they are fighting all the time.” (Bob, 05:38)

4. Celebrity Drag: Prosthetics, Make-Up, and White Chicks (09:38 – 13:38)

• Commentary on the labor of drag-inspired make-up transformations in movies (like White Chicks), with Monét marveling at reported 7-hour prep times:

  “Who... besides Valentina, who else has taken seven hours to get into drag?” (Monét, 10:20)

• Both queens compare intensive make-up routines, dropping hints for drag performers and fans about efficient application.

5. Comedy Festival News & Stand-Up in Red States (13:50 – 17:34)

• Bob shares his recent gig highlights: “I was headlining Limestone Comedy Festival… I was emceeing Standout, which is going to be on Netflix on June 9th.” (Bob, 13:52)
• He describes doing stand-up in conservative Orlando: “We were in Trump town. People were telling transphobic jokes and like anti-vax jokes…” (Bob, 15:38)
• Monét announces her Just For Laughs Vancouver set.

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Notable Advice Segments

#1: Flirting with Taken Men at Work (Devin, Gainesville, FL) (17:51 – 22:10)

• Issue: Devin, a prettily-presenting Dave & Buster’s employee, is crushing on a bisexual male coworker with a girlfriend.
• Advice:
  • Bob: “Stealing someone from someone else is always a bad sign. If they are willing to cheat…they will cheat on you with someone.”
  • Monét: “You’re messing with something at work. You can potentially lose your job over all of this nonsense. So just find somebody else. Girl, do not dick that good.” (21:44)
• Verdict: Leave it alone; don’t risk mess at work for unavailable men.

#2: Dating as a Young Trans Femme in a Conservative City (Tucson, AZ) (22:10 – 26:53)

• Issue: “Femme Bitch,” age 19, can’t find safe, genuine connections on queer apps in Tucson.
• Advice:
  • Monét: Recommends local trans events, 18+ bars, and “romantic” apps like Hinge or Bumble over Grindr/Tinder.
  • Bob: Acknowledges the extra work queer people—especially trans folks—must do to find community:

    “Queer people, especially trans people, we have to search further… there are places. Maybe you have to go to Phoenix to locate the things you are looking for.” (Bob, 24:53)

  • Monét pushes back: If you want love, don’t “settle for safe dick.” (26:42)
• Verdict: Seek queer-friendly events and be firm in your standards for what you want.

#3: Friendship & Communication—Who Should Text First? (Maryland) (27:13 – 33:42)

• Issue: Listener worries they’re being needy, always initiating with friends.
• Advice:
  • Bob: Urges honest communication using “I statements”:

    “I wish I heard from you more… It feels really nice when I get texts from you. It makes my day.” (Bob, 29:55)

  • Monét: “Just being honest about it… Asking the questions you want to know.”
• Memorable Quip: The two go off on a meta-tangent about fighting with people and semantics of “I statements,” giving a peek into their real-life friendship dynamics.

#4: Integrating into Straight Male-Dominated Spaces as a Femme Queer (Sydney, Australia) (35:48 – 41:34)

• Issue: Elias, a fem queer gamer, wants to re-enter the “toxic” straight-dominated Super Smash Bros. community.
• Advice:
  • Monét: “I would try to find ways to be as gay as fucking possible. Let them fucking eat that shit and just get so fucking good... Gather these hoes.” (38:55)
  • Bob: Admits no interest in assimilating into straight spaces but cites examples of queer people thriving in those scenes.

    “There’s a lot of strength in standing firm in who you are and being true to yourself and you’ll… get more respect that way.” (Bob, 40:56)

#5: When Your Family Turns Anti-Vaxx & Anti-Science (42:54 – 46:46)

• Issue: Non-binary chemist feels squeezed between their scientific/professional expertise and their family’s new anti-science beliefs.
• Advice:
  • Bob: “If you’re a literal scientist and you have a PhD… arguing with your family who’s not scientists about science… You are probably wasting your time.” (43:00)
  • The hosts relate to irreconcilable family differences around science and religion, suggesting boundaries and focusing energy on a chosen family/community instead.
  • If children are involved, Monét and Bob both say they don’t interfere with how siblings or relatives raise their kids but speak their truth when asked.

#6: Make-Up 101 for Beginners (49:26 – 53:53)

• Issue: Gay newbie wants to expand from basic foundation into eyeshadow, liner, and lips.
• Tips:
  • Monét’s Top Three:
    1. Color Matching: Test foundation in natural and flash light to avoid “cast with a ghost” look. (50:12)
    2. Avoid Overdoing Cream Contour: It can “go real live real fast... now you fucking Skeletor.”
    3. Getting Eyeshadows to Pop: Use a primer or concealer as a base, even for white queens.
  • Bob adds: Make-up artists often swap products’ intended uses—lipstick on eyelids, eyebrow pencil on lips, etc.—and recommends makeup tutorials on TikTok/YouTube.
  • Monét: “There are so many different ones but Patrick Starr does a lot of them on his TikTok.” (53:27)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On boundaries and family:

  “If I was a scientist, I’d be like, we’re not having this fucking conversation. You guys don’t know what you’re talking about.”
  (Bob, 43:00)

• On drag time management:

  “Seven hours?... There is an easier, softer way. It does not have to take that long.”
  (Bob, 12:24)

• On queer survival in straight spaces:

  “I cannot even imagine wanting to be around straight people for any reason... I have not returned in a very long time.”
  (Bob, 39:52)

• On messy work crushes:

  “Ain’t no dick that good, baby. Not. No.”
  (Bob, 21:51)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Disclaimers & Cold Open: 00:10 – 00:39
• Drag Vernacular & Tweets: 01:02 – 06:00
• Drag Tour Stories: 06:00 – 09:30
• Make-up & White Chicks SFX: 09:38 – 13:38
• Bob’s Stand-Up Gigs in Conservative City: 13:50 – 17:34
• Workplace Queer Crush: 17:51 – 22:10
• Trans Dating Off the Apps: 22:10 – 26:53
• Friendship Communication: 27:13 – 33:42
• Straight Spaces, Queer Gamers: 35:48 – 41:34
• Family Anti-Science Drama: 42:54 – 46:46
• Make-Up for Beginners: 49:26 – 53:53

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Tone & Language

• The episode is playful, irreverent, and deeply rooted in queer drag culture.
• Both hosts speak candidly, balancing humor (often raunchy) with serious advice and affirmations.

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For listeners:
Whether you’re navigating the minefield of dating, questioning family values, improving your beat, or just need to eavesdrop on two queens’ hilarious friendship, this episode is both useful and big fun.

Transcript

[A]

Hey, y', all, it's Monet X Change.

[B]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen and this is sibling advice. Now listen, we want to know that we are not doctors.

[A]

Not even a little bit.

[B]

We're not therapists, we are not psychologists.

[A]

We don't know much about algebra.

[B]

Psychiatrist. If you need advice, please go to your doctor, your rabbi, your priest, your shama, your teacher, your psych, your therapist. This is just for entertainment purposes only.

[A]

Yes, Everything we're saying is. Is for use in this podcast only. Do not take this as sound advice to take into the world to. To. To remedy your issues. If you have. Do not take any of this seriously. This is for entertainment purposes only. And we don't want anyone to feel like we are diagnosing them that we can give them a prognosis of on life.

[B]

So with that in line, let's get into some advisory.

[A]

Annie the house down sick.

[B]

Em, I wanna see her. I am. I have a shave of my head, so I need to wear a baseball cap. And I asked Jacob to go grab me a hat. Look at this motherfucker.

[A]

Ooh, loads. You know, when straight people see stuff like this lovely loads. Do you think that. Do you think, oh, I was thinking, like, dirty loads.

[B]

No, it is that kind of load, girl.

[C]

If.

[B]

Jacob, Jacob. I said, jacob, where'd you get this hat? He goes, I had it custom made.

[A]

So, like, when straight people see this stuff, do you think they get it or do you think only, like, queer people or gay men, honestly, specifically, are

[B]

like, you know, I think that loads is pretty queer coded.

[A]

Is it?

[D]

I know.

[B]

To be honest, I don't be talking to straight people, so. Girl, I don't fucking know. Do they say drop a load? Drop a. I have no clue. I have no. I have no way of knowing.

[A]

Like, you agree dick. Like black people say dick and white people say cock, right?

[B]

I think in my experience, that sounds pretty true. I don't know a lot of black people that say cock, right?

[A]

And I was saying this to Andy,

[B]

but I do know white people that say dick. But I do know white people that say dick, though.

[A]

Well, this is true. This is true. But I think it's just. I think it's just a lot of African American vernacular just gets used by people all the time.

[B]

Like, I don't know that specifically black voters. Vernacular, I think, is white vernacular is.

[A]

I think dick is black vernacular. I really do it. I really do think so.

[B]

I do not know theology behind this word, but I. I would be shocked if the word dick, based on what Is that based on.

[A]

Though of my research in. In high school?

[B]

Okay. I mean, sure, I. I will say this.

[A]

I. I did. I did the leg work. I research a lot of dick.

[B]

I do believe that a lot of white people say cock, and most black folks don't say that, but I think that pretty much. I think a lot of people say dick like, bitch, suck my fucking dick, bitch. Like, you can see some Italian guy be like, suck my fucking dick, you bitch.

[A]

Yeah, but I think it's from. I think it's from. It's from. It's from black vernacular. Wait, really? On the topic of vernacular, I'm gonna read something and use. See if you can guess what this. What drag queen on Twitter said this tweet.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. This is one. I've been planning something in honor of Janet Jackson's birthday. I'm so excited for you to see what I consider to be a dream project of mine. VTF content on our Patreon before going mainstage on GLAAD tomorrow.

[B]

That's Peppermint.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

You know your sister Peppermint is obsessed with Janet Jackson.

[B]

Peppermint. Yeah, she loves Janet Jackson. I also retweeted that, so.

[A]

Okay, here's another one.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

My Uber is taking me the literal opposite direction of DragCon. And when I said something, he said, enjoy my car. Am I being kidnapped or. No,

[B]

my Uber's taking me the literal direct opposite is this. It's not. Do I know this person very well?

[A]

You do know this very well. I mean, I don't know very well, but you definitely know this person.

[B]

I don't know, Kim.

[A]

I think the tell is in the last. It's in the end of the thing when it says, this is where. This is the tell for me. Am I. Am I being kidnapped or.

[B]

No, I don't think I know that. Who is it? I have no clue.

[A]

Gottmik.

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's very. Her cadence of speech is like. Okay, am I.

[B]

Am I like.

[A]

Am I like, duh, duh, or.

[F]

No?

[A]

Like, she says that he. She says that a lot, Ms. Gottmik.

[B]

I guess I'm not super familiar with that particular pattern of speech from her.

[A]

Okay, last one, last one. Did a dude push me to the ground in the club for no reason? Yes. Did I have lesbians remove my shoes so I could run outside after him and punch him in the head? Also yes.

[B]

Is that Morgan McMichaels?

[A]

No. Who is that? East Coast. I'm gonna do one more time. East Coast.

[B]

Read it again.

[A]

Did a dude punch me Did a dude push me to the ground in the club for no reason? Yes. Did I have lesbians remove my shoes so I could run outside after him and punch him in the head? Also yes.

[B]

East Coast Queen sister Tatiana. This queen sounds messy, honey.

[A]

See, I love, I love being on Tatiana's TikToks. I mean, her Instagram. Tatiana cracks me up. She's always about to have it. Trinity's always fighting Tatiana. Always, always.

[B]

I was like, oh, my God. Trinity is always fighting people. Like, fighting her followers. Like they are fighting all the time. And I see that one text for you to respond. Then I saw another one. I was like, oh, my God, this is wild. Trinity the Block. Trinity the Block.

[A]

Trinity the Block. Trinity the block. They call it now Trinity the truck. That's a new name.

[B]

Why is she a truck?

[A]

Okay, I've come to a realization.

[B]

Patty, did you ever pick up or something?

[A]

No. She does like, very. Trinity would, like, like, for example, Trinity. But this is all in the best way. And like, very funny. Like on the tour, like anytime they would say something and she was like, girl, I'm not doing that. We are not.

[B]

You're not gonna have us in drag

[A]

from 6am until 10pm no, ma', am. We're not doing that. Like, she's. She kind of like steamrolls or bulldozes to like the, like the. Yeah. Did she ever end up doing the

[B]

stuff she said she wasn't going to do?

[A]

Yes, that sounds like drag. But I will say, there is so much about you. I think we told us this story in the podcast before. Are you comfortable talking about it again?

[B]

I don't know what you're talking about. So let's find, let's find out.

[A]

San Francisco to la.

[B]

Oh, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.

[A]

That was very Bob. That's very Bob's energy. Well, the difference.

[B]

I didn't do it. The difference is I didn't do it.

[A]

But some stuff, when she says it, they'll be like, okay, sorry, we'll find out and they'll find another way to do it. So that does happen for sure.

[B]

Well, we should tell the story. So if anyone doesn't know. On the Season 8 promo tour, which by the way, we were the last season to actually get a promo tour, we went on an eight city tour to watch our season in eight different cities. And between San Francisco, it was ending in Los Angeles, and from SF to la, they decided they wanted to put us on a. On a tour bus. Not a tour bus, sorry, a party Bus.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

SF to la, which is a six hour drive, y'.

[F]

All.

[B]

Okay. They wanted us to be in drag the entire time and make a stop at a restaurant on the way. And I said, I said, I'm not. I'm not doing. I said, I'm not doing that.

[G]

And then.

[B]

And a couple other girls, like, I don't want to do it either. So then what I did was I drafted a letter and I emailed it to all the girls and I told everyone to send the email at the exact same time so that we were all actually together so they wouldn't know who it was coming from. So all the girls except two girls sent the email at the same time.

[A]

Say their names. Say their names now. Bob, it's. Bob is mad alone.

[B]

I have said their names a thousand times. I have never hidden their names. It was Chichi and. And Derrick Berry. I have said their names over and over again.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you did say that last time. But when you first on the first time you saw the file.

[B]

I have never not told the story. I'm telling you before I. Before I have been telling the story for thousands. Well, the first time I heard it,

[A]

you did not say the names. You wouldn't tell me who the names were. The first time I found out was that issue.

[H]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

I'm saying maybe not. On the podcast, when you first told me, when you first told me this thing happened when you first came back from doing your thing. I mean, I'm from. Right when you did the first show, you didn't tell me who it was.

[B]

That's also not true. But go ahead.

[A]

That is true. I know for a fact.

[B]

We have on this podcast proven over, I think upwards.

[A]

It could be 2 million times. There'll still be one time that I

[B]

could be wrecked that you will just blatantly say things that are just based on nothing. I know for nothing.

[A]

I know facts. You did not tell me when it first happened. It was like it was.

[B]

You could you telling me.

[A]

We talk about it real time.

[B]

You telling me in private. I was like. But I won't tell you who.

[A]

Yes, Bob, at that time. Yes. Also. I think you're also beginning.

[B]

I have no interest in arguing this with you. Literally none.

[A]

Don't. I know that's what happened. And it was later on you told me. And I was like, oh, work. I gagged. But in the real time. You did not tell me in real time.

[B]

No interest.

[A]

The phone charging sound.

[B]

That was Jacob. Jacob got something charging over. There was a computer.

[I]

So what do You.

[A]

Oh, did you see what I sent you on TikTok?

[B]

No.

[A]

What did you send me with Marlon Wayans?

[B]

What is it?

[A]

It's the video of Marlon Wayans. I think you should play it, because when we play the tiktoks in here, it's good because people who are listening can get the context. It's a video of Marlon Wayans explaining why he would never do white chicks 2 either.

[B]

I already saw that, actually. Yeah.

[A]

And when you and I were talking

[B]

about something happened to run across, I was like, oh, so you did drag. Okay, go. Oh, so you did drag pop off.

[A]

No, no, Bob, it took them seven hours to get into the looks. Seven hours. It is not.

[E]

Bitch.

[A]

Who is taking. Who's Besides Valentina?

[B]

Valentina.

[A]

I'm about to say, besides Valentina, who else has taken seven hours to get a drag? That is. Some people do. That is insane to me. Girls who take that long to get in drag, I'm like, no, the Grinch,

[B]

you know, Jim Carrey and the Grinch took, I think, nine to nine hours to get into full drag for his thing. I think that Colin Farrell for. For the Batman.

[A]

The Penguin. Yeah, the Batman, yeah.

[B]

Took like five hours to get. Now, Eddie Murphy did it for, like, seven different characters.

[A]

I know. Well. But also, what I was going to say.

[J]

Oh,

[A]

also, it may be something about. I mean, I get it still takes a lot of time, but having just be able to wake up at 5 o' clock in the morning and literally fall asleep and let somebody put it on you, that is. That also must be way different than you sitting there every day afraid that you're fucking up your makeup. When I do prosthetics, I'm always so, like, nervous about I'm gonna fuck it up.

[E]

I also.

[B]

I mean, I've seen the White Chicks movie. I don't know. I don't know what's seven hours about this. I do. I. This is no shade. I do not know what about this drag is Seven hours. Make that make sense. Seven hours.

[A]

To be fair, we don't do prosthetics, so we can't speak to prosthetics.

[B]

We've. We have both worn them and you've worn them.

[A]

Yeah, but someone who is a professional makeup artist.

[B]

I'm sure professionals put prosthetics on me, and it's never taken seven hours, ever.

[A]

Well, listen, I have put prosthetics on myself and always when I do my own prosthetics, and it'll just be like something small, like a horn, or. Or like something on my nose or something that I.

[B]

Seven hours.

[A]

I buffer an hour just for that. So I can only imagine when it's like you live with multiple pieces. Vivian. I've seen Viv do prosthetics, and it looks like it's. And I can't speak to white chicks. Obviously, I'm not. Again, I'm not a special effects makeup artist. When she does, like, different things, she had to start, like, three hours before because it looks like one piece, but it's literally layered once to give you the desired effect. So I'm not an Essex SF X person, but I can imagine it does take that long.

[D]

I don't know.

[E]

Sure.

[B]

That obviously, apparently, it did take that long. I don't get. It's like, when Valentina does her makeup, there's no reason it should take that long. There is an easier, softer way. It does not have to take that long.

[A]

Valentina is a unique case, but also the reason why it takes us so long is because, like, y' all seen tutorials. Look at her. I mean, I've never seen her Cosmo one, so I don't know if it's that long. But Valentina will, like, she'll do her eyebrows, and she'll, like, paint them on, and she'll spend time. Y' all. See how she has the little strokes, each stroke in her eyebrows? She's like,

[J]

Yeah.

[A]

And she'll go over it. Like, she just luxuriates and putting makeup on. I guess she really loves the transformation process. Like, that's her thing that gets her off in drag.

[B]

It's too long. It should not take that long. It should not take White Chicks and the Grinch. Should not be the same amount of time.

[A]

I mean, first you wanted to abolish libraries, and I want to. Now you want to abolish SFX makeup artists. I don't know, Bob. Take up your fight with the fucking with Swiss sack. I don't know what you want me to say.

[B]

If I can get a couple of makeup artists inside of an. Inside of a library and tear it down, that'd be really great.

[A]

I know. If I can make you come.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

While they're in there. What of it? Yeah, tear down the library while the SFX makeup artists are inside the library. Whatever.

[A]

And you're coming. Work.

[B]

Roberta.

[A]

How you doing?

[B]

I'm well. I just. I just got back from Bloomington, Indiana, and I was headlining the Limestone Comedy Festival. I've had a really busy comedy couple of weeks. You know, I. I was emceeing standout, which is a comedy Special that's going to be airing on Netflix on June 9th. So please go check out standout on Netflix. On June 9th, Billy Eichner hosted an IMC the show again.

[A]

What's it. So now that you did it, what was the difference?

[B]

I don't know. He just got top billing. That's really the big. The big difference.

[A]

Work.

[B]

Yeah. And then the Limestone Comedy Festival, which was really lovely and wonderful. I did a couple other shows. I did three shows at the Netflix is a Joke Comedy Festival. So this year I've done. I've done Moon Tower, Netflix is a Joke, and Limestone.

[A]

We love that.

[B]

Yeah, it's felt really nice.

[A]

Do you.

[B]

Are you having a good other one too?

[A]

Wow. Damn, son.

[G]

Their.

[A]

Their comedy, their laughs.

[B]

Whichever jokes, whichever one, it was them. I'm sure they understand. I'm sure they'll understand.

[A]

Damn, son. Damn, homie. In high school, you was the man, homie.

[B]

I've done a couple of, you know, stand up gigs that weren't attached to any festivals. I actually did some stand up in Orlando to prepare for the standout festival out of drag. And it was really interesting scenario. I went with Marvin, my friend Marvin from We're Here. And it was just. We were in Orlando. We were, we were in Trump town. We were in Trump town. People were telling transphobic jokes and like anti vax jokes and like the fdc. I mean, the, the. The. The FDC is no, the FDA is bullshit jokes. I was like, this is very strange material.

[A]

And how did they react to your set?

[B]

They liked it. They thought it was very funny. I mean, I, I kind of leaned in though, because it was like a lot of comedians up there, like, being like, man, my wife's driving me cr. Like a lot of that. My wife. So I got up and I put my purse down. I was like, ugh. My wife is like driving me crazy. And I got a laugh and they kind of broke the. In fact, I'll tell you about it when we come.

[I]

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[A]

All right, let's hit the first question.

[B]

Oh, wait, I tell you anyway, I was going to ask you because you're doing, you're doing just for Laughs.

[A]

I'm doing Just For Laughs. Very excited about that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you are listening to this, Just for laughs is on May 26th in Vancouver. I'm very excited about it. I have a really funny opener. Well, I saw her stuff and it's really great. And I'm excited to be doing such a major comedy festival. It's going to be very, very fun.

[B]

Yeah, Just Laughs is probably the biggest comedy festival in the world, actually.

[A]

Do you think? I guess, because Netflix is so new. But I would think Netflix, like Netflix is a joke, would probably be the biggest. But it is. It is also their first year.

[K]

Yeah.

[B]

And Just for Laughs is like the most prestigious comedy festival in the world.

[A]

That's amazing.

[B]

So congratulations.

[A]

Thank you.

[E]

Shall we?

[A]

Oh, work.

[E]

What?

[B]

Did you have something to say about Just For Laughs?

[A]

I had something to say and I completely forgot, so never mind.

[J]

Hi, ladies. So I'm Devin. I'm from Gainesville, Florida. I work at Dave and Buster's and I'm a waiter there. So, you know, I see a lot of people come and go, but we got a new Buster recently. He's this really cute guy. And, you know, from the first day we kind of, like, hit it off and, you know, kind of were like, flirty, flirty. And I soon found out that he wasn't, you know, straight per se. He didn't say he was, like, bisexual. He just said he likes who he likes. And, you know, somebody asked him in my presence would he fuck me? And he said yes. And so, you know, obviously the boy likes me a lot. Right. The only problem is he has a girlfriend. And, like, when he brings her up, he kind of is like, oh, yeah. And then goes quiet, probably because I roll my eyes and look away. But so, yeah, like, I kind of really like him, but I don't know what to do about it because I always go for the most unobtainable men.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[J]

You know, I'm very pretty. I look like a woman. And. And, yeah, so, you know, even though I'm more of, like, a transvestite than anything, you know, guys tend to really like me. Anyway, thank you for listening to my question, girls. I hope you guys have a nice day.

[B]

That was a wild ride. That was. That was a wild, wild ride.

[A]

Girl, what is going on? Oh, my God, there is so much going on here. I need a shot.

[B]

Do you want to take it away?

[A]

You can start.

[B]

Maybe you should take a shot of green apple syrup vodka.

[A]

I don't have any with me. I normally do, but I don't have with me right now, which kind of sucks, you know.

[B]

That was very interesting, honestly. This sounds messy. And whether or not is something. Okay, you're saying you like this guy? Bitch, are you trying to fudge or do you like this guy? If you like someone, stealing someone from someone else is always a bad sign. If they are willing to cheat on someone with you, they will cheat on you with someone.

[A]

How you get them is how you lose them.

[B]

So like if you're, like if you're. If you're. If you're Mr. Steal your girl. You know what I mean? If you're trying to mop up somebody's partner, that's that this sounds very messy. And I think that if you're. If you're just trying to, then sure fuck. But he can't. He can't be that hot. Just somebody else. I mean, if you're gonna ruin someone's relationship, just someone else. You know what I mean? It sounds like there's some sneaking around on his partner. Unless they're open. Mo. Bitch, are you here?

[A]

Yeah, bitch. It's not like you just stopped mid sentence. You're like, unless they're open. I thought you were. I didn't know you were done. I thought you were frozen or something. Yeah, this sounds very, very messy. And you need to. I agree, Bob. You need to decide do you want to fuck this person or are you trying to date this person? And you know, you need to make that very clear for yourself and with him, but also if he wanted to, if you wanted to. Or help this man cheat on his girlfriend with you. I mean, I just think again, that's a message. This is, this is someone involved with like where you work at. I mean, I don't know his girlfriend. But now you're running the risk of his girlfriend coming to his job. I mean, I've never experienced that or seen that in real life, but you never know. People. People get crazy. People do crazy shit. So I just think you're messing around something at work. You can potentially lose your job over all of this nonsense. So just find somebody else. Girl, do not dick that good.

[B]

Ain't no dick that good, baby. Not. No. Yeah, yeah, that is. That is the. That was messtown, honey.

[A]

Oh, Lord.

[B]

And then she's like, I look like a woman. I'm a transvestite. I was like, pop off, pussy hat. Here we go.

[A]

Play the next one.

[J]

Hi there, Baba monet.

[H]

I'm a 19 year old transphobic person from Tucson, Arizona. You know, Gotta love it. I won't Give you my name for my own safety. Because believe it or not, I am met with hate here in this city. They do not love the dolls. They do not worship the dolls. Not one bit. Not at all. I would just love your advice on how to meet new people, specifically, like, for a relationship without having to deal with the apps. Because honestly, at this point, it's getting exhausting on Grindr. It's all chasers on Tinder. Whether or not I met with people who are looking for men or people who are looking for women, the people who are looking for women love me because not to be egotistical, I am a hot bitch.

[D]

But.

[H]

But they don't like trans people. And the people who are looking for men are looking for men.

[B]

And I'm not that.

[H]

So I'm just kind of like running in circles here. It seems like, like I'm not getting anywhere with anyone and I would just love to meet people in person and skip all that bullshit. But, like, how can you know that you're gonna be safe? You know, Because I'm recorded everywhere I go here. So. Yeah, I would just love your perspective on this. I would love some advice on how to go to, like, be in adult spaces and feel safe. Thanks so much. Signed Femme Bitch.

[B]

Did it say 19 or did I make that or was that someone else?

[A]

Yeah, I can't.

[B]

Yeah, you know, 19 is tough because you can't go to the bars. Actually. I don't know, a lot of bars are. Are 18 actually, you go first. I went first last time.

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

In small cities, you can often find bars that are 18, 18 and over. Small. Not just small cities. Big cities too. So maybe I would try going out to a bar in some type of environment. If you're not like a big party person, I wouldn't go to a big party. 18 over place to meet somebody if you like. Maybe because since you're trying to engage in more of a relationship talk, like try to find lounges and stuff like that. That would be more inducive to that kind of conversation. And if you don't want to do the apps, bitch, I don't even know anymore. I mean, a lot of my trans friends in New York City, they would go to trans parties. Like certain bar. Kind of like what Bob was saying. Certain bars have trans nights or there are specific trans events, trans events that they would go to to meet like minded people or to find dates and to meet someone romantically. But in 2022, apps are such a big way people meet people. I know you don't Want to do the apps? I would recommend maybe try some that my trans friends have found success in. Hinge, they say, and Bumble. Hinge and Bumble are the two big ones. I hear of Tinder, not so much Badu, Tinder, not so much Grindr, not so much. But those I've heard are like, romantically,

[B]

you know, I hate to say this, but a lot of times queer people, especially trans people, we have to search further. We have to go further than our straight cisgender counterparts to find love or to find acceptance or to find community. So, you know, some people like in, you know, there was a point, there was a time in Mississippi where there was only one gay bar in the entire state of Mississippi, in the entire state. So people had to either go to Tennessee, Alabama, or to the, or Louisiana or to the one gay bar in the entire state and you have to just travel, travel further. You know what I mean? I find that there's a lot of people who are trans amorous or attracted to trans people who go to drag shows as well. And it's not uncommon to find people in those spaces who are attracted to trans femmes. You know, and there can be chasers and I think that sometimes you have to, you know, maybe develop your own system of filtering out chasers, you know, I am not a trans femme, so I do not have this experience and I don't fully know what it's like to, to have that kind of experience. But what I do know is that there are places, I'm not sure what the, what the Tucson era is like. Maybe you have to go to Phoenix, you know, maybe you have to go to the next big city to Phoenix to locate the things that you are looking for. So that's an example. That's the idea that I have. And I also recommend ask some, ask some trans women in your area. You're 19 years old. That's so young. You're so young. You know, this is a very young age to try to find love, you know, I mean, I think that also at 19, maybe just looking for some good, safe dick, some good safe fun and find love later.

[A]

No, I don't agree with that. If you are looking for love, bitch, go look for your love. If you know you're trying to dick everybody down, you're looking for something romantic, don't compromise.

[B]

I, I'm, I'm not saying about COVID I'm just saying in my opinion, if you're 19, baby, so you're a fucking wild oats. Go out there and have sex, have Sex. Sex with a lot of.

[A]

Everyone's wild like us.

[B]

Listen. Okay, so you can tell everyone on the podcast, do drugs, but I can't tell folks to have sex. Okay, Pop off pussy hat.

[H]

Let's.

[E]

Let's.

[B]

Let's do the next.

[K]

Wow.

[D]

Hi, Bob, and Monet. My pronouns are they, them, and. I'm from Maryland. I just wanted to know. Recently, I've been having a problem where I don't hear from my friends that often. And I want to know if it's needy to ask for their attention or be like. Because I'm normally the one to text first and stuff like that, but sometimes I want them to want to talk to me or I want it to feel like they want to talk to me. So I don't. I stop texting first or I take a step back, and then I don't hear from them for a long time. Am I being needy? Should I just continue to text first? Like, what do you think? Sincerely, all by myself.

[A]

You first.

[B]

You know, I. The notion of feeling uncomfortable to. To reach out to your friends, that's. That sounds like a friendship. That would be really stressful for me. If I felt like I couldn't reach out to my friends and communicate with them without feeling insecure, that would be very, very stressful, and I would just be uncomfortable. You know, it's kind of. It's almost like, like, dating. Like. Like, you know, people play games and they're dating, and they'd be like, I'll wait until he texts me, and then blah, blah, blah. But then you kind of build your relationship on games and manipulation. You know what I mean? So I would just say be open with your. Be open about your feelings and be honest and say how you're feeling. And. And I think that your friend's reaction to how you respond, your friend's response to you opening up about your feelings is very telling.

[J]

Yeah.

[A]

I want to say I understand how hard it can be and how awkward it can be to be really honest and vulnerable with your friends saying that you are feeling left out. So, like, I get that completely. But I agree with Bob. Like, if you are not the only way to tackle it and not have, like, a. And not, you know, have it be as too weird is just being honest about it. Like, hey, like, what's the tea? Like, why. Why am I only. Why am I always the one reaching out? Like, do y' all not want to, like, chat with me anymore? Like, I think, like, asking the questions that you want to know, I feel is the best way to Remedy. Be honest.

[B]

Well, I don't know that I would lean in with. Maybe y' all don't want to chat with me anymore. I would maybe say stuff like, you know, I wish I could. I wish I heard from you more. I really wish you would text me some more. Like, I love talking to you so much, and I wish you would text me some more because I just love getting texts from you. It feels really nice when I get texts from you. And I just. It makes my day. It really makes my day. As opposed to being like, what, do you not want to talk to me?

[A]

I think it's just having an honest and authentic real exchange with your friends. Like, when you and I have something, I don't come at you in a way to that, like, I ask the question that I'm feeling. I was like, bob, so Zobob. Xyz, like, and then we talk it out. I don't, like, change up how I talk to make you, you know, to. Because then I feel like I'm not being, like, super honest about my feelings. I'm trying to, like, beat around the answer. So I like telling you how I feel, like, in the moment. Like, how it feels in my head.

[B]

Well, for me, I think that we

[A]

always have positive reactions.

[B]

There's a difference between how you feel and then just come and saying, like, saying how you feel is like, I. I like when you text me. I feel sad when you don't. And I would like more texts from you. Now when you say something like, do you not want to hang out with me? That's not how you feel. That is just assuming someone's someone else.

[A]

That's how I feel.

[B]

That's.

[A]

No, I feel like you don't want to.

[B]

If I say, monae, you're mad right now. That's not how I feel. That's me assuming how you feel.

[A]

Yes. I'm saying. So I would say I feel like you don't want to hang out with me anymore. Like, that's how I feel. Like, if you don't text me anymore like we used to, or if you do something, I'm like, so, Bob, I feel like you don't hang out with me no more. What's the tea? Like, what's going on? But again, we're also just arguing semantics, how someone would address their friends.

[B]

I think it's actually not semantics. I think it is. It's I statements. It is literally I statements. And even though you say I at the beginning of a statement, it doesn't make it an I statement. So that's what I'm suggesting is if someone goes into a situation just talking about their feelings as opposed to asking the other person what they're up to, I feel like you will probably have a much more positive outcome if you just mention your feelings as opposed to saying, like, making it like, you don't want to hang out, you don't want to. I feel like you don't hang out with me. Saying I feel before you assume someone else's actions and feelings doesn't make it an I statement, and it doesn't make it about your feelings. If I say, I feel like you're grumpy, I feel like you're in a bad mood. That could put someone like, why are you saying. Instead you go, you know, instead of saying, I feel like you're in a bad mood, you might say something like, oh, I see that. You. You responded really quickly to that thing. I said. Like, you responded really quickly. And. And that, oh, sure.

[A]

I mean, different strokes for different folks. That's how. In my experience in this world, that's how I address my things. And I don't. And I don't have meltdowns of people. I say that, and then we talk about it and then we move on. So I never had. I don't have aggressive interactions when I address. When I approach people this way. I really don't. I can't think of a time that, yes, I can think of a time that is not me about to say. Just because I can't think of a time that does not mean that it never happens. But typically when I address situations in the way that I do, I do not. I don't be out here fighting with a lot of people. I really don't. Even when I met up with Tamisha Iman, I was like, hey, girl. And we talked it out, and I made I statements about how I felt about it, and then we were. And then that was it.

[B]

I just feel like I've heard lots of stories about you fighting with people, and you're like, I just don't.

[A]

I did not say, do not fight with people. I said, I don't be out here, Bob. One of us fights with people all the time, and one of us doesn't.

[B]

The difference is one of us openly acknowledge that we fight with people. You're like, I've just never.

[A]

You the one that said. You the one that go on the

[B]

podcast and say, argue with people.

[A]

Literally, you have made those statements. One day, he's like, well, now you have made those statements about me not Fighting with people more than I have. You're obsessed with me not fighting with evil.

[B]

I. I'll wait for Bob and drag queen videos to find the statements of me saying that you don't fight with people. I said I fight with people. I'm talking about. I argue with people sometimes. But I'm not saying you don't fight. In fact, if anything, I talk about you. What I often talk about is you calling me heaving about how you tried to physically assault the guy who tried to scam you at.

[A]

That was one situation. You look using the most. Using the only situation that's ever happened.

[B]

I don't know how. And I'm like, monat. Oh, you talk about it a lot.

[A]

How. How are you already talking about it with you?

[B]

I talk about it more than once.

[A]

Yeah. And that's a lot working. All the conversations we've had. But anyway, so what I'm saying is you have got his podcast. So you're like, Monet, everybody likes you. You're just nice. No, you. You have gone on the record saying that on this podcast.

[B]

Okay. There's a difference between saying everybody likes you and you don't fight with people. People, everybody likes me, too.

[A]

And you've made both of these statements.

[B]

Okay, Monet, sure. What's our next. Our next thing?

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[A]

Next caller.

[E]

Hey, buba. Monet, I'm. What the fuck? I'm Elias. I'm 19 and I'm from Sydney, Australia. And I want to ask you a question. Question in regards to integrating yourself into a primarily straight community as someone who is queer and femme, pretty much. I play Super Smash Bros ultimate competitively and I used to play locally before COVID hit. And that's when I wasn't like truly being myself. I was trying to be as straight as possible. But now I've embraced the fam and I want to reintegrate myself back into that community. But knowing how toxic it is, I'm finding it rather difficult to do that. And so I want to ask, how do you integrate yourself back into, you know, primarily straight spaces? Also, I just want to say thank you for talking about ancient Mesopotamia. As someone who is Assyrian in like, like, I like this is pretty much one of the only bits of representation I've ever gotten and I find it so cute. And I like to think that fucking Monet astral projected back to the ancient Babylonian times and was talking to one of my ancestors and canoodling and all that. All that jazz. I love it. Bye.

[A]

Yes, bitch. I was astral projecting, honey. I was going over all the lush fields and was a Batavia. It was wild. But let me tell you something. I have heard from so many people how like bad gaming communities are. And I guess I've been on Gamer Talk, whatever. And it's like I feel like in the past week, maybe six videos of some girl being on like streaming their gaming thing and them like, what?

[B]

Good, good.

[A]

And her like owning everyone, like whether it be Overwatch or some Call of Duty game. And like how like the fucking little kids or sometimes probably grown up men, adults who fucking knows, they like go in with these women, they're like, you stupid fucking bitch cunt, I fucking hate you. It's so mean and so toxic. So I can only imagine how they are to feminine men. And I mean, honestly, it's tough because on one hand you just want to just play your game in peace and not people stigmatize you and be rude and nasty to you. But at the same time, you don't want to have to feel like you need to assimilate to make these people feel comfortable in the gaming space. Because it's as much yours as it is theirs. But if your goal is to want to sell it in some way, I really advise you not to. I really advise you to really just. But who am I to talk? I'm not part of it, so I don't feel how mean it is. But I don't know. I will try to find ways to be as gay as fucking possible. Let the fucking eat that shit and just get so fucking good. You get you a fucking Kirby and Mollywop. These bitches. Bitch. Play with Zelda. Play with fucking Princess Peach and make them feel fucking dumb. Get and get. Get you a little palutena and get. Gather these hoes. That's my suggestion.

[B]

I mean I, I do not have, I don't know why you think I would be a person who would have advice on how to acclimate or assimilate into straight society because I have, I. I left and I, I have not returned in a very long time. I do not know. I know very little about straight people. I have no desire to assimilate in a straight culture. I don't even do comedy clubs anymore. The only comedy. I mean I do comedy clubs but like only on gay nights. Like it's when, like when normally when I go to Comic club everyone's like, oh my God, this is the gayest night we've ever had here. Like it's never this gay and happy and wonderful here. And I did tell a story beginning of this about how I was at a comedy club recently that was straight and it was a straight night, but I was straight. I just did my, my gay thing. I walked up with my purse, I made it, I opened up the set talking about how I was gay. And I just don't even. I can't even imagine wanting to be around straight people for any reason. Like any reason because the gaming community is so straight.

[A]

It's like, it's like so much of the community.

[B]

What about all the queer people? There's so many queer gamers. You and I both know this. There's tons of.

[A]

But I'm sure like, like, you know, the ratio of queer gamers to straight gamers is probably. I mean, I don't know the numbers, but I'm sure there are a lot of straight ones and maybe the queer ones are just. Are afraid to be openly queer because they're, because they're so fucking rude and nasty.

[B]

Well, maybe what it is, I'm sure once you get into specialty competitive leagues, you know, they're usually probably more niche and you're probably, there's a chance that you're probably just too good for the niche leagues and you're probably, you have to be in on the world stage and the biggest competitions which, which will include some, some straight people. And you know, there's lots of. I can't say lots of because I don't know a whole lot. But I know that one of the like, top Mortal Kombat players in the world is a gay guy named Sonic. He's a furry sonic fox. And he's a, he's a furry.

[A]

And he's like, is he still the best? Wasn't that like 2020? Is he still good?

[B]

I say he's one of the top players in the world. I'm sure, I'm sure he's still very good at Mortal Kombat.

[A]

Well, sonny, if you out there, I'll fuck you up with some katana, bitch.

[B]

Sonic, Sonic fox.

[A]

Oh, Sonic fox.

[B]

And I have not checked on his gameplay in a while, but I'm sure he's still very talented when it comes to playing Mortal Kombat. And you know, he just really kind of leans into it and he doesn't, he doesn't seem to switch up what he's doing a whole lot. And I think there's a lot of strength in standing firm in who you are and being true to yourself and you'll. And I, I really think you'll probably get more respect that way. I think about Mateo Lane, who is very much in the world of straight comedy and he's just so himself and he gets a lot of respect from every comedian I have ever met. Respects Mateo.

[A]

Potato Mane. Love potato. His show, the Typewriter was so funny.

[B]

He's a very, very funny person.

[A]

Shall we do the next question?

[C]

Hey, dolls. So I am 27 years old. I am gay and non binary and I am a professional chemist. So I teach, I make a living teaching chemistry to college freshmen and doing biochemistry research. And lately my family has become, you know, in the last five years, along with many other Americans, my family has become, become increasingly skeptical and dismissive of science, which has been incredibly frustrating for me as a scientist. And so I find myself, I mean, I've been fighting with my family my whole life because they were very homophobic. So, you know, ever since they found out I was gay in high school, there's just been non stop fights and finally we were, you know, starting to get somewhere on the sexuality front. And now in the last five years, things have begun to deteriorate again as they have started to, you know, belittle and patronize not only my sexuality, but also now my profession. So I guess what I'm asking is like, what would you guys do if you were in my situation? You know, do you think it's worth it to like keep, to keep fighting and, and trying to salvage these relationships? Or should I just cut my losses and, you know, invest all that time and Energy in my found family. Please help. Sincerely, another child left behind.

[A]

You want to go first, my dear?

[B]

I think you went first last time.

[A]

I'm pretty sure actually, yeah, I went first last time.

[B]

You know, this sounds really harsh, but like, if you're, if you're a literal scientist and you have a PhD in science and your like family, if. I don't know what if they're like accountants or like something that's not teachers or something that's not scientists.

[F]

It.

[B]

You really, in my opinion, you are probably wasting your time arguing with your family who's not scientists about science. They just don't. Baby, they don't know what they're talking about. They do not know what they are talking about. And I understand when it comes to things like the vaccine, you can have a lot of fear for your family because you want what's best for them. And if you, you know, I have, I have a few anti vaxxers in my family and you know, the ones who are anti vaxxers, I just, I was trying to make sure they weren't around my mother when she was. Before she got vaccinated or before she got fully vaccinated anyway, and, or, and then when they released boosters. So I was doing all this stuff being like, I don't want you guys. And I was asking my mom to make sure they weren't around her. And as long as she was comfortable with that, to keep herself safe. And I know that you can, you can fear for your family's safety, especially if they have comorbidities and they're anti vaxxers. I mean, there was like a story of a guy who, who was, who needed a kidney transplant. I don't know if you saw this. He needed a kidney transplant and. But to get a transplant you have to be vaccinated. And he refused to get the vaccine for fear that it would make him sick. So he just accepted his fate and was. And died or was gonna die. Which is like. They were like, well, you can't live without a kidney. He's like, I'm good. I'd rather not get the vaccine. I'd rather just go ahead and die. And that is a level of. That's not even cognitive dissonance. That is, I don't even know what that is. That is where you put your, you're putting. I don't even have words to describe someone's mentality like that. You know, I've had arguments in my family about vaccines and stuff, but I'm not even a scientist. If I was a scientist, I'd be like, we're not having this fucking conversation. You guys don't know what you're talking about. You just don't know what you're talking about, period.

[A]

Hey, when you have friends and family that don't want to take the vaccine, it makes it very difficult.

[B]

And, you know, he did not say vaccine or they did not say vaccine. They just said scientists. And I was equating it to the vaccine in my family.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, yeah.

[A]

But when you have people in life who don't. Who choose not to believe science, and, you know, obviously a lot of people who believe in Rich, who believe in religion fall into that makes it very difficult to maintain relationships with them because you are just vibrating on a different level, another frequency. You have, like, done the groundwork to learn about science. And when people are like, no, because I just believe in whatever, it makes it very hard to have a fucking conversation with them because you're like, are you an idiot? So I think it's just accepting that truth, knowing that and letting that be what it is. And then from that, from there, you make a decision on how you want to interact with these people. And, you know, they're friends and family, so you love them, so you just kind of just take a deep breath, take a gulp, and move on. But you have to make that active decision to be like, you know what? Fuck it, they're just an idiot. And proceed with the relationship that way.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, yeah. Yeah. As long as you think their actions are going to hurt you or innocent people around them, let them believe that, you know that. That. That, you know, the Earth, there's no evolution. Let them believe that. If it. If it's not hurting anyone around you, then let them believe that.

[K]

You know, I have a. I have a question which is sort of in line with this. So let's say there are children in your family. Your family is very religious, and there are children in your family who you feel like are being indoctrinated is. Do you feel like it's your. Like, do you want to get them out of that? Do you feel like it's your responsibility to get them out of that? Like, how do you have that conversation about being like, hey, like, there are other. There are other things. Like, other. What's the word? Other options besides. Yeah,

[A]

I. I mean, it is a parent. The parents. I mean, when someone. When someone has kids, like, they. It is their parents. They get to parent them how they want to. Like, that's none of my business. I get to choose when they talk to me. I don't prescribe to that, so I have honest conversations about the way I live my life and what that means to me. But as far as their parents go, it is their parents responsibility to raise them and train them up how they want to, but they can't tell me how to talk to them. They can't tell me to tell the kid about Eshwar, Yahweh or Allah, whatever. I don't have to do that. No, I'm telling them how I interact with the world, how I see the world. Now. The earth is not flat. The earth is round for me.

[B]

Yeah, same. I mean, my family is religious and I would never, ever try to tell my niece and nephew. I always tell my, like, my family, I'm here to be a part of my niece and nephew's life, but I'm not raising them. I'm not raising Camion and Nevaeh, you know what I mean? So I'm not putting my values on them in that manner. I mean, they're getting a hint of my values just by interacting with me and talking to me. But no, I. They're gonna. They're probably gonna. My niece and nephew are probably gonna be Christians because their family is Christian, or they might end up like me and not be Christian at all. And they'll find out in their own time, you know?

[J]

Mm.

[B]

All right, you got the next one, babe.

[G]

Hey, Bob and Monet. So I wanted to get advice on makeup for context. I'm a 27 year old cis gay man. I used to do basic foundation in college just to kind of clean up my complexion. But over the years, I've really wanted to get into more advanced stuff like eyeshadows, eyeliners, lips, kind of all of the things that go into doing makeup. And so I wondered if you had any tips for beginners. I know you guys are drag queens, so I'm sure you have some kind of funny stories of beginning drag makeup and doing it for the first time and trying to figure out what products and tools to use and just how to go about it. So I would really love to hear what you guys have to say. Sincerely, ugly. Busted. Bitch. Love you guys.

[A]

Oh, my God. What is this dance you're doing, bro? Don't be so hard on yourself. What is this dance you're doing?

[B]

What is this dance you're doing?

[A]

This dance. Do you see it? To be announced in rivalry tour. Did you see that?

[H]

Lovely.

[A]

I paid homage to you and posted a video of you dancing.

[B]

I did see the Video. There was. I was. There was no dancing. It was literally just a costume reveal. I don't know if there was a dance move involved in it.

[A]

What happened there?

[B]

I was taking off a costume. Why don't you tell what you think you saw there?

[A]

I saw a bitch struggling. A bitch could have get her costume authors. The fuck I saw.

[K]

Interesting.

[A]

In terms of makeup, I guess one of the big things I would. The three big things that I struggle with that I struggle with at the beginning. Number one is color matching. When you go to do a foundation, you have to be careful about how it looks in person, but also what it photographs. Like when someone puts flash on because you think sometimes you think you have the right color. Oh my God. It matches me perfectly. But you take a picture and you are cast with a ghost. Okay. And you look crazy. So I would. When you test your foundation, test it in like normal light and with flash photography. Number two, you don't need to. Just because you see it online, you don't. Everyone does not need to do cream colored contour. Cream color contour can go. When you do cream colored contouring and powder, it can go real life real fast. Because you did the cream one and you go back on and you do the cream one again and it just looks crazy. Now you fucking skeletor. That's number two. And number three, how these bitches be getting colors to pop on their eyes is they use a primer or a concealer. You are not some white girl. And even white girls do it too. If it's not super pigmented. You're not some white girl that can just walk up and pick up an eyeshadow palette and just put it on your bare skin and it shows up.

[C]

Bitch.

[A]

No, you are.

[B]

How do we know they're not white?

[A]

I don't know. I thought I. This turns to the same white, but let me give it to both.

[B]

This might be the. This might be Aiden Zane. Might be the palest bitch on the Internet.

[A]

I felt it about spirit. But anyway, so if you are a black queen or also a lot of white queens too, because colors sometimes colors just aren't super pigmented. If you want something to really show up on your eyelids for a foundation, I mean for eyeshadow you want to put either a clown white down or your concealer color down first and then put the color on top of it. That that's how be on here looking with like their be popping. You have to put primer first.

[B]

A lot of people also use products in different places and they're intended to. To get a strong vibrant eye. There's. You'd be shocked at how many people actually put lipstick on their eyelids because lipstick is just. Is super, super pigmented. It's meant to be super bold. Because usually, usually people do not put anything under. There's no primer or anything under your lipstick so it ends up sticking out more. So you'd be shocked how often people use lipstick for their eyebrows, use blush for their eyeshadow, use. You know, people really be moving shit around. Eyebrow pencils for the lips. People be moving shit all over the place. Also the real tea is baby every. I mean we can give you advice right now, but in my opinion and for me in general, what works best is seeing it. And there are so many, so many tutorials from simple concealer to full on SFX clown makeup on the Internet.

[A]

Everything you want to on TikTok.

[B]

Yeah, everything you want to find is right there for you. There's so many great products. So many. I mean there's everything from like liquid foundation to cream foundation to just a little bit of bare mineral. Maybe you, maybe you're a bare minerals girl. I have no clue. You know what I mean? It really depends on how made up you really want to look when you hit these streets. Like are you trying to look made up? Are you trying to look a little dusted or you trying to look. Make it look natty, you know what I mean?

[A]

Even that. I also recommend one size if you like Patrick Starr on TikTok that these little tutorials. Patrick Starr does full coverage glam drag. Something in the middle like Influencer going out or Patrick Star sometimes also does just light. He goes in like natural makeup like Bob said. There are so many different ones but Patrick Tart does a lot of them on his TikTok like pretty often.

[B]

What's your next stop?

[A]

I'm here for a week and then I'm coming back to LA and then I'm doing my show the Dynasty Typewriter and then I'm doing Just for last on 26. So Toronto, California, Vancouver, California. And then I'm doing a bunch of little cities around the country. Yeah, you know, I should become Canadian. But let me tell you, Canadian, they're not fucking around.

[B]

Canada.

[A]

If you want to come into Canada, Canada is making you. Canada acting like it is March 2020 up in here. They are not playing games in Canada.

[B]

I had some great trade in Toronto. I should get back to Toronto sometime soon.

[A]

Do you wanna. You wanna drop his at. You may be advertising for him. I'll dm okay. What are you. Where are you up to next?

[B]

Well, my next thing is I'm shooting a music video on Thursday. I'll be shooting a music video by the time it's. Well, actually, yeah, I mean, I don't know, depending on when you're listening to this, I. Y' all could be. You could be listening to this in the year 2027. And I shot this video a long ass time ago.

[A]

No, then you'll be shooting at that Thursday as well.

[B]

Yeah, every Thursday from now to the end of time.

[A]

It's whenever you're listening to this. Bob is doing a video on Thursday.

[B]

Every Thursday I'm shooting this video now. I'm really excited about this. This is probably my biggest music video to date for sure. This is my biggest music video I've ever done.

[A]

Are you excited?

[B]

I am excited. Very nervous. My last big music video was. Was yet another dig. And that one at the time felt like I was like, this is insane. I cannot believe that I'm putting all. And the amount of work I'm putting into this yet another dig ain't shit compared to the amount of work I'm putting into this video. So I'm very excited.

[A]

I just interviewed Dex on the plant based way and he talked about being on and they talked about being on yet another dig. And she was like, baby. It was when Bob was first learning things. Honey, we have no choice trailer. Bob had us out in the desert.

[B]

We all three of us. There was no, no one had a trailer. We were all three of us. It was me, Dipper and Dex in the.

[A]

Ah. He said he, he said, he said you had one.

[B]

No, I did not have a trailer. I absolutely did not have a trailer. A trailer. Okay, girl, I did not have a trailer. We were in the desert, all of us rolled over there in, in Assad's Range Rover. It got out of Assad's Range Rover and then stood in the middle of the desert and then started dancing. We were in, we were in a. I don't think Dix is in the church. And we were in a school. So we were, I think we were rehearsed in this, this school which we staged to look like a. A church. It was actually an old school, but like an old, old school. But no, I certainly, I have, I have never in my life rented a trailer. Not even once.

[A]

Okay, I'll definitely get a text to let me know the royalty on that.

[B]

Have a good day, money.

[A]

Bye, Bob. Goodbye.