Sibling Advicery: BFF's Girlfriend/Hoe Clothes

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – Sibling Advicery: BFF's Girlfriend/Hoe Clothes

Date: October 11, 2023
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen

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Overview

In this laugh-out-loud advice episode, drag superstars and comedy duo Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen answer listener questions, share their own wild stories, and debate a variety of dilemmas—ranging from BFF relationship woes and "hoe clothes" to career leaps and designer dreams. With their trademark irreverence, warmth, and shade, Bob and Monét navigate listener submissions with candid, often hilarious, but genuinely thoughtful takes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter: Earwax, Testosterone, & Drag Race Fatigue

Timestamp: 01:08 – 09:00

• The episode cold opens straight into Bob commenting on Monét’s background looking “like a dollhouse,” leading to playful banter about Monét feeling under the weather.
• The two bond over buying ear-cleaning tools from TikTok and discuss the (supposed) link between testosterone levels and earwax production.
• They confess they've both lost steam watching RuPaul’s Drag Race spinoffs and UK versions, explaining their break from weekly reviews.

“I don't want to watch UK anymore. Is that horrible?” – Bob (04:51)

• They consider watching The Traitors instead, leading to an aside about pop culture references and the etymology of “Benedict Arnold” and “renegade.”

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2. Listener Advice: Not Vibing with BFF's Girlfriend

Timestamp: 09:37 – 16:02

The Dilemma

A listener describes conflict with her best friend’s girlfriend—clashing personalities, feeling disrespected, and discomfort with oversharing on social media.

Key Advice & Insights

• Bob affirms it’s normal to dislike a friend’s partner:

  “It's okay to not like your friend's partner... I don't ever come clean about it until they break up.” (10:35)

• Both agree: unless asked, mind your business and support your friend; only speak up if the relationship is open and values such feedback.
• Monét points out boundaries in friendships:

  “If you guys have a relationship where you offer information about past lovers... that's okay. But if you guys have a boundary, you should honor that.” (12:37)

Memorable Moment

Monét admits she and her circle have collectively disliked a partner but kept it quiet until after the breakup, when "Pandora's box" opens.

Advice Summary

• Be cordial, don’t cause unnecessary drama.
• If you really can't deal, distance is okay—honest communication if asked is key.

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3. Story Swap: Confronting Friends’ Partners

Timestamp: 17:36 – 23:27

• Jacob (producer) asks about fighting with friends' partners. Bob shares stories about directly calling out inappropriate behavior—including refusing strangers entry into his home without warning.
• Monét calls out the hypocrisy, recounting Bob turning up with drag legend Vivacious without prior notice in her own Bronx apartment.
• The conversation spirals into a hilariously candid chat about hosting, house guests, and “secret” get-togethers.

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4. Career Question: When to Leap for Your Passion

Timestamp: 23:29 – 31:09

The Dilemma

A listener named Roman asks about leaving a steady job to pursue drag full time.

Bob and Monét’s Contrasting Takes

• Monét: Advocates for taking well-considered risks if your passion drives you, especially if you can plan financially.

  “When I did, I was able to put 100% of my time, my efforts, my love into drag, and it flourished into what my career is now.” (24:21)

• Bob: Cautions listeners on chasing dreams without a safety net, citing the myth of the American Dream.

  “I have a lot friends who moved to the big city to pursue their dreams. And y’all see me and Monet and Bianca, but you don’t see the people who went back to their hometowns with a tail between their legs...” (30:18)

Mutual Advice: Analyze your options, have savings if possible, and understand the risks.

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5. Sibling "Ho(e) Clothes": What to Wear If You’re Looking for Action

Timestamp: 53:06 – 57:45

A listener asks for “hoe outfit” advice to subtly signal sexual availability.

• “Hoochie daddy shorts!” Bob’s go-to: shorts above the top third of the thigh, crop tops.
• Monét suggests the real giveaway for men:

  “When a motherfucker's wearing gray sweatpants with no underwear on … that's the 100%.” (56:08)

• Whale-tail thongs and TikTok leggings also get a mention for “I’m DTF” vibes.
• Bob and Monét debate whether wearing skin-baring gym clothes is “vulgar,” with Monét defending body confidence.

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6. Political Debates & Family Disagreements: Keeping Your Cool

Timestamp: 33:07 – 44:03

Listener wants advice on arguing politics with family without losing composure.

• Bob confesses he’s "good at the toxic thing called meeting you where you're at," and shares his debate-room adventures.
• His best advice: most arguments (especially online) aren't really about you, so don't take bait personally.

  “Once you realize that … it actually doesn’t have anything to do with you, you’ll probably find you can be a little more level-headed.” (37:59)

• Monét notes: they rarely yell at each other, even in disagreement.

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7. Drag Designer Dreams: NY or LA?

Timestamp: 45:36 – 50:06

Advice for a designer from the Bible Belt who wants to make drag outfits.

• Both hosts agree there’s huge demand but a shortage of reliable drag designers.
• New York City queens are “constantly buying clothes,” even if they're not Drag Race famous.
• Bob recounts how his own drag daughter got so busy with commissions "he had to close his books."
• Monét and Bob encourage the caller to DM her designs, noting they often support up-and-comers.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “You don't bring no fucking strangers to my house. Don’t.” - Bob (18:46)
• “If you're young and sexy, do not pay for things … There is no reason for you to be young and sexy and also paying for stuff.” - Bob (31:17)
• “Let me tell y’all, if you want to know if somebody’s about that life… gray sweatpants with no underwear on… 100%.” - Monét (56:08)
• “With your dumb ass.” – Bob (23:20), lobbing affectionate shade at Jacob

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Quickfire Highs & Laughter

• “Your friend, you wish it was you!” (Bob jokingly suggesting the caller is jealous of her BFF’s girlfriend – 14:51)
• “Can I tell you something? We don't like that [bitch] … all of us did not like her.” – Monét (13:42)
• Hosts rib Jacob for not knowing if “aha!” is a Black thing.
• Sidebars on musical theatre, “Moulin Rouge,” home dress codes, TikTok leggings, and viral videos.

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Timestamps: Important Segments

| Segment Topic | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------------------|-------------| | Opening banter/drag talk/testosterone-ears | 01:08–09:00 | | Listener Q1: Best friend's girlfriend | 09:37–16:02 | | Fights with friends’ partners | 17:36–23:27 | | Career leap/listener Roman's drag dreams | 23:29–31:09 | | “Hoe Clothes” - best outfits to signal you’re DTF | 53:06–57:45 | | Political debates/keeping cool with family | 33:07–44:03 | | Drag designers: LA or NY? | 45:36–50:06 |

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Tone & Language

Bob and Monét are:

• Candid (sometimes raunchy), supportive, and quick-witted.
• Not afraid to own their biases (“Maybe you’re a little more prudish…”)
• Pro-vulnerability, anti-drama, and all about keeping it real—even if it means a reality check.

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Final Takeaway

Sibling Advicery is drag advice at its most unfiltered: comedy, camaraderie, and genuine community alongside the shade. Whether you’re trapped by a friend’s prickly partner, plotting your big career leap, or just struggling to pick the perfect pair of ho(e) shorts—Bob and Monét have the real talk (and the giggles) you need.

“This advice is for entertainment purposes only!”

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

It looks like you're in like a dollhouse or like some sort of a Barbie themed kitty room.

[Monet X Change]

Barbie. It's not even pink.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I'm colorblind so I don't know what color it is but. But it just kind of has the motif of like a, of a kitty room.

[Monet X Change]

So I thought you only. Are you ready? I did feel a little under the weather. Yes, I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, you sound a little sick. I'm like, I'm gonna keep it a buck.

[Monet X Change]

You sound like you're disgusted. Don't react like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't know I was disgusted. And you know, if you read, if you read that, then you know, I don't know, we can maybe have that conversation separately. But I was just observing.

[Monet X Change]

This is you. This is you. Do you do your little sniffle thing? Are you sick?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I don't know that. I don't know that did all that. But you know, hey, roll the footage.

[Monet X Change]

Rewind. Play it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think what I said was, are you sick? No. And you sick?

[Monet X Change]

That was you. That was the second one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I don't think that's what happened. But what is. Okay, now what's this? Your whole head's falling off. You get your ear, your nose is stuffed up your ears. I bought one of those things where you can go into your ear with a camera.

[Monet X Change]

I have one of those too. Got on TikTok.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me too. Is it the B bird?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, the B bird.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How's your ear? My ears actually pretty clean.

[Monet X Change]

Mine was very clean. But they make you feel like. Because like in the little video to make you think you're gonna find this like this fucking dirty infested air. But mine was very. Also, I clean my hair almost every other day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I do often have airwax fall out of my ear because of I, I have a lot of earwax. Apparently my doctor said that if you have a lot of, if you have high testosterone, you make a lot of earwax. Apparently that's what the doctor. That's what, that's what, that's what Dr.

[Monet X Change]

Naziri.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Naziri said.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, you have, you have, you have high testosterone?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never had much testosterone tested, but he said that because of how much earwax I make, he thinks it might be because of high testosterone. But I never had much testosterone level tested.

[Monet X Change]

No, you did. You do like to wet your whistle a lot. So that makes sense.

[Caller Roman]

What is it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What does that to do?

[Monet X Change]

Having the high testosterone, not drinking. I don't know how to say it. Use it useless to get your dick wet pretty often.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What does that have to do with having high testosterone?

[Monet X Change]

That high testosterone has also affects your sex drive. Like you are, you want, you want to have more sex and you have a lot of testosterone going on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah.

[Caller Roman]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your whistles drinking thing.

[Monet X Change]

I know, I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think that I like to have sex more than the average person. I think I have a high sex drive, but not like crazy. Maybe like, maybe if average is 5, I'm like a 6 or 7. So maybe more than. Yes, but I like a 9 or a 10. I'm not like sex crazy or anything.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I didn't say that. I said you're above average. And if you have high testosterone, that makes sense.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's up with your testosterone, bitch? Where you're whistle. How's your, how's your dick wetness? Is your dick wet right now, bro?

[Monet X Change]

It's drying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's drying up, drying up.

[Monet X Change]

It's, it's on its way of getting on wet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, well, congratulations to that. So we are back with Sibling Advisory, which we've not done in a while because, you know, I got to be honest with you all, I'm just going to say this out loud and very clearly and I hate to disappoint of you, but we're not going to be be reviewing London UK 5 Drag Race UK 5. You know, I, I, I don't watch UK anymore. I stopped watching after Crystal Versace season. I did not watch Danny Beard season and I am no shade to the uk, which I will be there by the time y' all listen this. I'm already in the UK I don't want to watch. I don't want to watch UK anymore. Is that horrible?

[Monet X Change]

No, I have no desire to watch UK either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't really want to watch All Stars anymore.

[Monet X Change]

I'm still down. I think I feel that, like, right

[Bob the Drag Queen]

now, the one thing I want to watch is Drag Race. Like, I want to watch. I'm excited about watching your post Drag Race, but, like, the last two. No, the last seven was great, but six and eight were. Or six. What are we on right now?

[Monet X Change]

We're on eight. We just finished eight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What did you do? Seven?

[Monet X Change]

I did seven. Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Six and eight were not. Were just not it for me. Like, I was so uninterested in six and eight.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I think I say that now, but then when the cast gets announced and I'm like, it's like our friends or someone. I really want to be like, I wonder what she did that I want to watch. And then if it's whack, then I'm like, I regret that I agreed to the watchery. And that's Fool T.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I don't have no friends who've ever been on Drag Race, so we could.

[Jacob]

We could also do the Traders.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's the trader?

[Monet X Change]

I love Traders. Traders. Us.

[Jacob]

That show Pepsi. The show Pepson.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, whoa, whoa. I don't think that's been announced, Jacob.

[Jacob]

It is. It's publicly announced.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is.

[Jacob]

Is absolutely 100% publicly announced as Pepper, and it's also Parvati from Survivor. It's 100% announced. It's not a secret.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I see it on.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I don't see it. I need. I need proof before we post that, Amelia, before we just start throwing out who's on what show.

[Monet X Change]

It's out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's out.

[Monet X Change]

Glad. Glad has it. Peacocks. The Traders is back. But stars to the season two featuring Peppermint Purr.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

Sandra is on it, too. That is hilarious. Sandra from Survivor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think hyping Pep's gonna do. Have you seen the Traders?

[Monet X Change]

I've seen season one. Season one was so good. I would. I would watch it again for. With you. For also. For watchery.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, traitors. I put in traitor like Joe

[Monet X Change]

Traitors like a traitor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're a traitor. I see that you're a traitor. Like. Like a. Like a Benedict Arnold.

[Monet X Change]

Like who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Benedict Arnold. Benedict Arnold.

[Monet X Change]

Who the is Benedict Arnold?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's like the world's. He's like. Like, if someone calls you a Benedict Arnold, that means you're a traitor or a renegade You're a renegade. You're a renegade. Renegade.

[Jacob]

Can you. Can you tell us more about what Benedict Arnold did?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know what he did, but I just know that if someone calls you a Benedict Arnold, it's because you are a traitor.

[Monet X Change]

I think you think of Benedict Cumberbatch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Benedict Arnold is a. If someone calls you a Benedict Arnold, it's because you're a traitor. I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

I never heard someone say that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know if he's a real person or if he's a character in a movie, but I just know the term. You're a Benedict Arnold. It's the same thing as being a renegade. When you're a renegade, you're a traitor, which is. The term renegade doesn't seem to have a negative connotation, but the term traitor does. And I feel like people just like, oh, she's a renegade. But when you're renegade, that literally means you're just a traitor.

[Monet X Change]

I've never heard the term Brandon Arnold as referred to someone ever. I've never heard that name.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me look. I mean, maybe. Am I getting the word renegade wrong? Let me look up the word renegade. Renegade definition. Renegade is a person who deserts or betrays an organization. Stop.

[Monet X Change]

On this podcast. Stop talking about words that you don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, I knew a person who deserts or. And betrays an organization, country, or set of principles. A renegade.

[Monet X Change]

First was narcissism. Now you renegaded. Yannick is really trying it.

[Jacob]

There's. There's also a house of villains coming up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's act like. Anyway, so anyway, we have. We have renegaded against Gregory uk.

[Monet X Change]

And we're gonna. Well, we're gonna do advisory for a little while. We miss advisory. I love doing advice. We're doing advisory for a little while while we figure out what the next watcher is going to be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We need to say out loud and very clearly, this advice is for entertainment purposes only. Monet and I are not experts in therapy, psychology, medicine, science, technology. We're not. We are not women in stem. We don't know anything about therapy. We don't know anything about relation. We're not relationship counselors. We do not.

[Monet X Change]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We. The only thing we know how to do is podcasts, and barely. We know how to do drag and.

[Caller Roman]

And.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And. But we are not this. And this. This advice is literally for entertainment purposes only. All right? And with that in mind, let's give some advice. You ready, Jacob?

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Hi, Bob and Monet. I need some advice about my best Friend and her partner. I've known my best friend for almost my whole life. She moved to LA a couple years ago and I still live on the East Coast. She also found love out there and has been with her girlfriend for over a year. I'm so happy that she's finally with someone who genuinely cares about her. They've already u hauled and will probably get married. Here's my. I don't like her. I've tried, but I think our personalities clash. She makes fun of our hometown while also explaining the city to me because she went to college here, I work in the city, and I've lived here my whole life. She also explains things to me about my friend, which I already know because we've known each other for 20 years. She has a habit of saying stuff about their sex life on Twitter, which is kind of awkward to see when you log on in the morning. And finally, she made fun of my job the very first time we met. I don't want to say anything to my friend because I don't want to hurt her. What do y' all think I should do to cope with the girlfriend and avoid toxic lesbian drama? Thank you.

[Caller Roman]

Ooh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know I don't like this bitch. I can confirm that lesbian drama is a different breed of drama than. Than any other kind of queer drama. Lesbian. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. There are. There are a few lesbians in my life, and lesbian drama is wild. It is a. It's a whole different breed, Monet. It's not like. It's not like this petty gay boy shit. It's not like this. Like you did my Molly in Joshua Tree shit. It's not like that. It is. It is wild. And you know, I'm gonna say that it is okay to not like your partner's partner, your friends. Partners. I've had several friends whose partners I do not like. However, I will be honest. I don't say anything. I don't ever come clean about not liking someone's partner until they break up. It's really awkward when they break up and get back together. And then you be looking crazy feeling like, girl, I was just playing. Girl, you know I love him. Girl, you know I live that motherfucker. But I think that that. And this is my humble opinion, this. This may not be good advice, but I think if you have a friend who has a partner that you don't like. Mind your fucking business. Be there for your friend. Be an ear for them. Offer them your advice.

[Jacob]

If.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If they ask for it, that's a really important factor in this if they ask for it, because when they in love, they will fuck. They will be like, fuck you, bitch. You don't know nothing about me and my motherfucking man, bitch. You can kiss my motherfucking ass, bitch. Don't you ever talk to me and my man or my girl or my person or my they them ever again. And they break up with the person and they've lost you and their. And their partner. So now what? Now your friend looking dumb as hell. Looking dumb. Dumb as hell. So, you know, I just mind my fucking business and I do what I can to support my friends.

[Monet X Change]

I think different people have different boundaries with their friend circle. Like, I'm a friend that I often talk to my friends about a partner, someone I'm dating or someone I'm fucking, someone I'm seeing. If I like my close tribe and I get their opinions about stuff and I weigh stuff out with them. So I have an open door concept about, like, my friends give me, like, when I ask and facilitate, you know, information from them, they speak on it, and I value their opinions on it. So I think if you guys have a relationship that you have offered those information about past lovers, then I think that's okay to do. But if you guys have a boundary, you guys don't do that, then you should honor that. And I've had friends that have had partners that I didn't like and bitch, for however long they were together. I was cool. I was cordial. As soon as the act went down, oh, bitch. It was like Pandora's box, bitch. I ain't never liked that bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anybody like her.

[Monet X Change]

We was all acting like we liked her. We did not like her. All of us did not like her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not all of us. Not implicating other people in your feelings.

[Jacob]

Monae, would you like to say any names?

[Monet X Change]

I'm not gonna say no names, but we used to all talk about it. We used to all text about it. Every time we were all in the thing and we're forced to do with that person. When that person leave, we'd be like, ugh, God. Like, that was what we did. And then. But if your friend does not want you to share that information, then you. You owe that to honor your friendship with your friend and not spread and not do that until. Until the ghost is clear and that person is gone. You could be like, bitch, can I tell you something? We don't like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it sounds. It sounds like you don't like things about their relationship that they don't have a problem with. Like, maybe your friend doesn't care that she's sharing about her sex life on the Internet. I talk about me and Jacob's sex life sometimes not in graphic detail. And Monet talks about her and Jacob don't like it anyway. And Jacob, Monet talks about her sex life on the Internet sometimes. So I don't think that. But that's. That's. Maybe that's because we are not particularly prudish people. And maybe you're. Maybe you're a little more prudish or maybe a little more modest than your friend is, you know, but also this person is not.

[Monet X Change]

Is being rude to you. Like, make it also. Are you. Is there a small chance maybe you're being a little sensitive? Like, when he said they make fun of you, he said, oh, you work at Starbucks, man. I can do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you in love with your friend? You know, like, you wish it was you. I don't know about all that. Oh, my. No, no, no, no. You wish it was you.

[Monet X Change]

You think so?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm just kidding.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So. But also, if this is also. But another thing you can do if this is really bothering you and you just cannot deal, like, then you distance yourself a little bit when your friend asks you, hey, what's going on? I noticed that, like, you don't come to the game nights anymore when I come in town. You don't really want to hang out with us, only me separately. Like, what's going on? Then that gives you a gateway to be like, hey, this is how I feel. Or if this is your very close friend. If one of my very close friends and this was happening, it's also up to me to be like, hey, this is how I feel. It's really hard to hang out with you guys together because of xyz. If these are one of your best friends, you can have that conversation. If you kind of have that conversation with your best friend, something's that. Then something's up. Like, that's not cool. You should be able to have an open and honest dialogue with your best friend about something that's bothering you, albeit their partner.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we're back. Jacob, what do you have to ask us?

[Jacob]

Have either of you ever gotten to a fight with one of your friends partners who you weren't necessarily friends with?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kind of a little bit low key? A little bit. Well, not. I just. I've called out my friends partners before about things and. In front of.

[Monet X Change]

In front of them?

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In front of all of them. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Who Say their name.

[Caller Spencer]

Who?

[Monet X Change]

Was I there?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you weren't there. It was freeze. It was Freeze X. I don't even know. It was freeze xx like 3, 4 x's ago. And he was doing something really weird that I did not like. And I was like, don't. Yeah, okay. Jesus Christ. And I was like. I was like, don't. I was. He did something. I can't remember what it was, but I didn't like it. I thought it was really inappropriate. I was like, don't do that. And one time, one time. One time I sent a strongly worded text to Alfredo's current boyfriend. Because. Because Free. Free came over and he, like his. His boyfriend. Me and Free were there. And his Free was like, oh, can I boyfriend come over and give me this thing? And there was. And there was like, you know, he did my least favorite thing. Do you know what it was?

[Monet X Change]

I forget which one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He brought a stranger to my house without telling.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you know, I don't like that. I do not like people bringing. You don't bring no fucking strangers to my house. Don't. Especially someone that I don't know. You can bring someone over and not like if you came over with Andy and didn't tell me, or if you came over and Patty was with you, that's one thing. But if it is a literal complete stranger, someone I have no information on, I've never met, never heard of, don't know this person, don't know nothing about them.

[Monet X Change]

That's so funny you say that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, you know Vivacious.

[Monet X Change]

You know who she is. I did not know Vivacious. I had never met Vivacious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're both, Monet. You're both from Jamaica. You grew up in Jamaica together. So y', all, you literally grew up together in Jamaica.

[Monet X Change]

This is rich coming from Bob, because when I was going on season 10 or after whatever it was, Bob shows up at my apartment in the Bronx with Vivacious at my front door. I opened my door and it just Bob in Vivacious. I'm like, mother is here, Monet. And I was like, honestly, that was an iconic guy. Who the fuck are you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was honestly an iconic day. You knew who Vivacious had already. You knew who Vivacious was. Act like you never knew who. Act like you had never heard of Vivacious.

[Monet X Change]

I've never heard of her. I heard of her on tv, but

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I never met her. That was like. That was honestly iconic. That was.

[Monet X Change]

I bet. So you. So then you send Joel a strongly worded.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was also in my basement in my underwear, and I couldn't even come upstairs. I was like, stuck in my basement with no clothes. Me and Free were hanging out. We were probably doing some sewing. And I was. I was in my underwear, cuz we were doing this sewing thing. And then I. I was like, Who's. Whose voice is that up there?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know who this is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And years ago, my friend Taylor brought Patty to my house. I didn't know Patty at the time. And Patty would. Oh, never. Never lets me live this down. But I made Patty sit outside in the hallway because I didn't know. He was like, how about my friend? I was like, well, your friend can't come in here. And he was like, you're gonna make him sit in the hallway? I was like, yep, he cannot come in this house. I don't know him. And Patty sat outside for like 15 minutes while me and Taylor did whatever the hell we were doing.

[Monet X Change]

I could not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You let people come. You gonna let strangers come hang out in your house?

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't. But I also don't let. I don't have a whole bunch of people at my house. I mean, previously because of, you know, I had. I don't have strangers at my house. I don't have strangers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I don't have strangers in my house either, but I've been at your house for, like, game night and stuff. I think I have. I think you have more people at your house than I have in my house. Actually,

[Monet X Change]

that was a big adjustment.

[Jacob]

That.

[Monet X Change]

Because that was not. Yeah, you know, that's not something I used to do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you host more. Well, nowadays in la, I feel like you host more events than I do at my home. Like, I don't really hold things in my home anymore.

[Jacob]

Right.

[Monet X Change]

Well, that's because of the situation I was in. Like, I was dating someone who. Like, you were doing it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were doing. That had nothing to do with that. You were.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not game night People over your house.

[Monet X Change]

That's literally the four people that would come to my house. That's literally it. There was no one else.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I don't know. And then you had Big Rob hanging out at your house. Your little secret get togethers. I remember you and your friends doing a little secret get togethers that you thought I didn't know about. I know y' all was doing them because people would send me pictures and be like, aha. How do you spell aha? Aha. Jacob, do you know what aha means? Jacob? Is that a black thing?

[Monet X Change]

It's not a black thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob, do you know what it means that someone goes, ah?

[Jacob]

I mean, I feel like I do, but it's more just like in the tone of how you would say something. But I feel like it probably has another meaning that I'm missing. So.

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Jacob]

I guess I would answer no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you think is the context that someone go, aha? And by the way, they're very different. Aha is very specific. What do you think that means? There's no if you get. If you get it wrong, I'm not gonna.

[Monet X Change]

Like Jacob is not a good metric to justify Jacob. Jacob, don't be doing nothing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Jacob knows. Jacob knows some black stuff.

[Jacob]

I would have made that sound when you were carrying the bag. And I said, maybe we should carry the bag differently because everything is going to fall out. And you said, no, it's going to be fine. I got it. And then we walked to the elevator, and less than a minute later, you dropped the bag and everything fell out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I Think that's when I would.

[Jacob]

Perfect.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's perfect. Jacob, you ate that. I had to say. With your stupid self.

[Monet X Change]

With your dumb ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

With your dumb ass. With your stupid self. All right, let's go on.

[Monet X Change]

Next question.

[Caller Roman]

Hey, Bob. Hey, Monet. My name is Roman. I'm 21, and I am facing right now, change of pace regarding my work. I currently have been listening to you guys for almost four years now, since my freshman year of college. And my question essentially is, how do you make a changeover from, you know, you're working. Working your everyday job? I know Monet was talking about how she worked at the hotel into doing drag full time. How do you know to go and leap out on that faith of, you know, all right, I'm going to change my job. I'm going to start following what I actually want to do and not worry about, you know, the responsibilities that necessarily come with it. How do you manage and maneuver through that? Thanks for all you guys do.

[Monet X Change]

Love you too.

[Caller Roman]

Bye.

[Monet X Change]

I love you, too, babe. Also, he has a very sexy voice. I think for me, I found myself at a crossroads where I was partially committing to both interests. I had, well, interests, my job and my passion. And because I wasn't fully committing to my passion, I wasn't progressing how I could have because I wasn't allowing myself to do all the things to further my career. I couldn't take more gigs because I had to work five days a week and. And I couldn't sew an outfit. Cause I had to do this thing or whatever. So when I was like, you know what? I love drag. Drag brings me a lot of joy. Drag brings me a lot of happiness. And I think I can get to a place in drag where I'm making the same, if not more money. And I can sustain my life if I fully commit to it now. So I weighed my options, and I just took a leap of faith and I was like, you know what? I believe in drag. I love drag. And it's bringing me happiness, it's bringing me joy. I'm gonna quit my day job and I'm gonna do drag full time. And then when I did, I was able to put 100% of my time, my efforts, my love into drag, and it flourished into what my career is now. So I think it's really looking at yourself, looking at the bigger picture. Like, will I be happy just working at whatever you're doing, or will I be happy doing this thing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you know, I. This is where me and Monet kind of have a. This Is one of the most. I think, one of the most controversial things I've ever said on the podcast. I said it in the past, and, you know, the American dream is a lie. And the notion of telling someone to, like, quit their job and go do something, I think is actually a little bit dangerous. So I don't feel comfortable being like, girl, quit your job and go do the thing you love. Because, you know, I know a lot of people who quit their jobs to do the thing they love, and they went hungry. And when I tell. When I say that, it's not about me believing in people. I mean, I don't know you to believe in you, Roman. You're probably. You may be incredibly talented, but also, sometimes, just to be clear, your success in a lot of fields, no matter what the field is, be it entertainment, be it. Be being a lawyer, be it being an attorney, teacher sometimes, it has so little to do with how talented you are and practically everything to do about when you are, where you are, who you are, you know, how you are, more than it has to do about how talented you are. So I think you have to weigh what's important to you. When I. When I started doing drag full time, I was doing real estate in New York City, and my office closed without warning. I showed up to work one day. They. They still owe me, like, fourteen hundred dollars. I showed up to work one day, and the office was literally closed. There was a sign on the door. I was like, so sorry, this office is closed. Goodbye. And that was literally the end of my real estate career. And I was like. And I worked at one of the crummiest real estate agencies in New York City. I will not say the name of it, but do not say her name. I will not say this name. I'll probably get sued. But you should not go to the. If.

[Monet X Change]

If you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If any of you can ever find out what real estate agents I used to work for, don't ever go there. Let's just put it that way. And I work for two. So you can figure out I work for one of them along with the other one. And I was just like, well, but I was already, like, more than knee deep. I was, like, waist deep in drag at this point. I was a fixture in the New York City nightlife scene, and I already had a couple of weekly gigs. And I was just like, I'm just gonna lean in all the way because this is what I need to do to make money. And luckily, I had an opportunity where Lucky Chang's moved to midtown. So I started working at Lucky Chang's, which is a drag queen restaurant. I was doing drag at Lucky Chan. I was hosting the show the Lucky Changs. So honestly, it was literally when. It was when I was. I. I just. Lucky Chang just happened to be moving to midtown at that time, and I got a job hosting the shows at Lucky Chang's, which ended up paying my bills. After I. After I. After the. The real estate office closed down, and I. I quit this other gig that I had with my best friend at the time, who. We were kind of just like falling apart. So you have to ask yourself, what's important to you? Do you have a nest to fall back on? Do you have a family who can support you while you pursue your dreams? Do you have a partner who's going to. Who. Who will foot the bill while you. While you pursue what you believe in? And if you don't have those things, are you comfortable eating noodles or downsizing your apartment or doing what you need to do while you pursue your dreams? So the short answer is, I don't feel comfortable telling you to just quit your job and pursue your dreams. What I'm gonna tell you to do is do what feels most important to you. I know what I did. I took a big risk, and it just happened to work out. And I don't think it's because I am remarkably talented. I think it's because I just happened to be in the right place at the right time and I was the right person.

[Monet X Change]

Also, I will say, I don't know how you are with money, Roman, but I'm very good with money. So before I did that, I made sure that I had a safety blanket for X amount of months. I'm like, if I am. If I'm going into drag doing X dollars, which is like the bare minimum, I can survive at least this long without having to go back to my old job. And also, I worked in hotels, and I was already in the union, so I knew that I could find another union job and make similar to what if not. If not exactly what. Similar to what I was making had I had to go back to doing hotels. So I think you have to be really just. We should really analyze your entire situation and not make a really rash decision, but really weigh all the options and see what's going to be best for you and how you can best survive and maintain the lifestyle and pay your bills and because, bitch, it's October 1st. Well, it's October. Student loan payments are back in session officially. So you just have to really really, really, really, really track your spending and see what's popping and how you can best live your best life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also.

[Monet X Change]

Next question.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But just to be clear, y', all, I really advise against the notion of being like, move to the big town and do anything. Even though I want to point out, yes, that is literally what I did. And, yes, that did work out for me. But the reason why. And it's not like I'm trying to hoard the success for myself. It's just that I have a lot of friends who moved to the big city to pursue their dreams. And y'. All, Y' all see me and Monet and Bianca, but you don't see the people who went back to their hometowns with a tail between their legs, addicted to drugs, broke as hell, paying off hundreds of thousands of dollars of student debt, and then resorting to jobs I didn't want. You all don't see. You don't see those things. That's why when I say anyone can be anything, I'm not being negative. I'm just being like, maybe. I don't know. I mean. But also, the people who really want to do it, they're going to do it anyway. Even if someone would have told me what I'm saying right now, I still would have done it. I still would have came anyway. Nothing could have stopped me, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So, Roman, analyze your situation, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, if you're sexy, just like, go be sexy. If you're young and hot, don't. Don't pay for things. Listen to me, guys. If you are young and sexy, do not pay for things. There is no reason for you to be young and sexy and also paying for stuff. That's insane. Do not pay your rent. Someone will pay your rent for you. If you're young and sexy, someone will pay your rent for you. If you're young and sexy, someone will buy your drinks. If you're young and sexy, go to the. If you're a young, sexy woman, find out whatever bar Leonardo DiCaprio's at. You will leave. And your drinks, your drinks will be paid for y'.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

All.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know what fucking. Don't listen to any shit, bitch. Pay your rent. You're gonna be sitting there looking for somebody to pay your rent, looking crazy as hell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Someone will. No, I'm not saying literally don't pay your rent. What I'm saying is you shouldn't have to. If you're young and sexy, someone will. I'm telling you right now, if you are young and sexy, someone will Pay your rent for you. I literally promise you that they are

[Monet X Change]

young, sexy people out there trying to do that. There's a whole TikTok people trying to find sugar daddies, and they don't find them. And they're very hot and very beautiful, and they're like, what's the secret? I'm hot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I look good.

[Monet X Change]

What's the secret? How do you find them?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Could you get a sugar daddy?

[Monet X Change]

A lot of TikTok.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think you can get a sugar daddy?

[Monet X Change]

No, I think I'm past the sugar daddy phase. I mean, in the royalty. In, like, classical music that. There's so much of that. There's so much of that. These, like, rich. Especially the gays. In classical music, you've been in the

[Bob the Drag Queen]

opera houses, so you probably found out you probably had a couple offers. Yeah, yeah. Come clean, bitch.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Neeson motherfucking Dorma, bitch.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So messy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Somebody about to pay the Leontine price, Honey for that pussy.

[Caller Spencer]

Hi, Bob and Monet. My name is Spencer. I am 27 years old, and I live in Houston, Texas. And I was wondering if you guys could provide me with any advice on how to not get so frustrated or upset or even angry. I guess, in situations when I'm faced with disagreement or a debate, especially like in the political climate that we're in, or if we're watching the debate with my parents and I have a disagreement or they have a difference of opinion with me, whether it's online or just my parents in this situation. Right. I find myself not able to properly communicate or articulate what I want to say because I guess I'm so passionate about it. So I get my. I get so frustrated, and I don't feel like I'm an actual contributor to a fair discussion. And I just wanted to know how I could improve on that and how I could be able to. To be an effective communicator in those situations, you know? I know, Bob, you love debate videos, and I feel like you're good at it. And any advice would be greatly appreciated from both of you. I just want to be able to, you know, be able to communicate better, and I would appreciate any advice. Thank you both so much for the podcast and taking my question. I always love listening to y' all on my morning commute. I love you both so much. Have a good day. Thank you. Thank you.

[Caller Roman]

Thank you.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, this is.

[Jacob]

Before we continue, can you quickly tell us about your hands performance that you did during that question?

[Monet X Change]

Bob loves to just randomly do hand performance. It's so strange. Like someone's like, yeah, you know, because I had a really hard day today and I fell down the stairs and it twisted my ankle. Boss on my song the Bob. I'm going to leave this one for Bob to answer. Bob loves debating because I say this as a Pisces just debate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it's also about, like, maybe. Maybe it is something they want to just debate stuff. It was kind of like they said, yes in the little comments.

[Monet X Change]

This is me preparing for an argument. I'm like, okay, point number one. Point number. This would mean the argument. So I'll let Bob answer this one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say this. When you argue often, you get better at it. And that is so toxic. The more you argue, the better you are at arguing and the better you are at not getting affected. Letting things. There's this one girl on TikTok who hates my guts. Her name's Avani. She hates my guts because a long time ago I entered a room and she said, well, maybe, maybe, Bob, what you should do is you should stick to dancing instead of trying to give. Trying to debate. And then I would. Then I would do this thing where I would jokingly go, all right, hi, guys. Me, Bob the drag queen, world famous dancer and choreographer. I want to just say out loud. So I just kept. I kept like, I'm really good. I'm really good at a very toxic thing called meeting you where you're at. I will get in the gutter with you. I need to be honest about that. I'm not saying this is a good thing, but I am being honest about it. I will get in the. If you're in the gutter, I will join you. We will both be covered in mud to the point where we are indistinguishable from each other.

[Caller Carly]

And.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you can't tell who's who. You know what I mean? That is. That is what I will do with someone that I do not like in an argument. So. And now Avani, whenever she sees me, she just makes. She does weird. She's weird stuff. Like, Avani's kind of like a big girl, but she's like, bob, you're so fat, get on a trip. And I'm like, this is. Her name's Avani. Ms. Avani. She's this. She's this like, Ava and I. She's just like conservative trans girl on TikTok who like, argues against trans people. Like, non stop.

[Monet X Change]

43 million followers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think you're talking about someone different. You're looking at the wrong person. 43 million.

[Monet X Change]

I

[Bob the Drag Queen]

wait you see 43 million on TikTok.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Ava n. I. Avani.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Avani. This is not the right. This is not the same person, baby. This is, this is not Avani. Oh, okay. This is.

[Jacob]

I don't know. Your friend.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Someone. No, this is someone different. That's not that of. I don't, I do not know this woman. I don't know her. This is. That's someone different. She's like a small time tick tocker who has like billions and billions of accounts. But also the reason why a lot of times when I get in these debate rooms and people are like trying to dunk on me or call me like, they, they're like, you don't even know if you're a man or a woman. You don't know anything about yourself. You or, or if I'm talking like some, like some fucking Kevin Samuels esque guy about. And I end up talking about like, like I, I often find myself in these rooms like, should men have to pay child support if the girl ended the relationship? Which I'm like, I can't believe this is who women have to choose from. This is so upsetting that this is the dating pool. I'm like screaming right now.

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And in those scenarios, what I realized is what they're saying is so far fetched and it really has practically nothing to do with me. Even though they're talking about me and they're saying words about me, I realized that it actually doesn't have anything to do with me. You know, it's more of a deflection to talk about whatever. Whatever it is they want to talk about or whatever, whatever is it whatever grievance they want to get off their chest against black people or queer people or trans people or, or women or even communities I'm not even a part of, like, well, you know, I mean, like, like women, they just. But they're using me as a conduit to get their anger out on this group of people, you know what I mean? So once you realize that whether people think you've done your business and it really hasn't, and it really has nothing to do with you, I think you're, you'll probably find that you can be a little more, a little bit more level headed. I don't really lose my temper very often. Monet's known me for over 10 years. I think she's seen me yell at one person one time. And we have spent a lot of time around each other. Even when me and Monet are mad at each other. We don't really. I mean, the veganism argument, we kind of got rowdy, but we. But not, like. But not more rowdy than we normally get. Even, like. No more rowdy than we normally get when we're, like, laughing, having fun. It's been.

[Caller Carly]

Since.

[Monet X Change]

It's been a long time since you and I have had, like. It's only happened, like, twice, maybe three times, I think, where we've, like, lost our temper and, like, yelled.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do we yell, though? I don't think in the beginning of the argument, we were even yelling. I mean, we were.

[Monet X Change]

I think we were yelling.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think we were already talking loud because of how goofy and silly it was, and then because we were already talking about. Sometimes Monet and I do this thing where we don't. Where it doesn't happen often, but, like, we can't tell when the joke has stopped and the real thing has started, and then we're already yelling, so. So we're already yelling because of the goofy thing. But, like, when me and Monet got into argument about the. The thing at her house, when I walked with no one. Yeah, no one was yelling. I didn't yell at anyone.

[Monet X Change]

Me and I didn't yell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And when it was the. The J. Soul Scentsy, we didn't yell then, either. That was all through text. But I think that the veganism thing, we were just already yelling because of how goofy we get. And then we realize. Have you ever had any other situation where you were where you're joking with someone and then you didn't realize that it stopped being a joke, and then now you're arguing for real? I hate when that happens. I hate this. It feels so. You're like. Especially if you're the second one to find out. If. If you find out it's not a joke anymore, after the other person realizes it's not a joke, you'll be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait.

[Monet X Change]

Whoa.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's how your friend got punched.

[Monet X Change]

My friend?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your friend who did the podcast, the other guy.

[Caller Spencer]

What?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know what you're talking about. I don't got punch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You remember my mom called Trinity the other guy?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, someone said Trinity the other guy. Tuck the tuck.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because apparently, when I heard that story go back, I was like. People were like, oh. They didn't realize it wasn't a joke anymore.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, that's what I heard.

[Jacob]

That's.

[Monet X Change]

That's what I had heard. Had, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But anyway. But also, you know, I don't. I. I told y'.

[Jacob]

All.

[Caller Carly]

I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's there's very little that can convince me to get loud with someone in person because I just. I just watch too much Internet stuff and people are crazy. Crazy people are insane. I just saw a video of this, this YouTube prankster who's like going up to people and like making noise. It's not like his prank is that he comes up to you and he's like, hey, hey, or something like that. And, and this guy, and this guy, he's like 6 foot 4. This gigantic man comes up to you that's. He's larger than I am and I am a large person. He's like waving this camera. And this guy was like, this guy said, please stop. And the guy did it again. He goes, stop. And then the guy went to go do it again and he pulls out a blicky. And it fucking. Honey, sound like somebody put a pair of boots in the dryer, honey.

[Monet X Change]

He shot him. And, and, but, and yeah, and the

[Bob the Drag Queen]

jury, by the way, the jury, the jury. Do you know the jury was so mad at the fucking guy. They were like, the YouTuber, they didn't even get him on the shot, on the, on the shooting him. You know, they charged him with firing a gun in an enclosed space.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they were like, the jury was

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like, fuck that YouTuber, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Right? And then people in the comments like, yeah, just someone pranking is not grounds to shoot them. No, he's. It was self defense. He was in his space. He asked him to stop multiple times and he didn't. He didn't know what he was gonna do, didn't know what he was gonna do next.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Someone standing around is not grounds to come up and start harassing them on the street. This man was literally just standing there minding his own business. I saw a video of these protesters in. In fucking somewhere in Texas, some protesters, and like one of them came up to the, to the protest and just started pop popping. Like, I'm not like, I used to do a lot of this back in my day when I am. Especially in my, in my, in my activism days, I was doing some dangerous stuff in my activism days that I would not do today, like yelling at people in their faces. Strangers on the street.

[Monet X Change]

When you're young, you just think you're. You think you're invincible, girl. And when you're young, you do stuff like that because you don't realize your mortality as a kid. You really don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wasn't a kid, but, but as a younger person, you're right. Yes, I was, I was in my twenties. And I was. Do you believe that thing where people are like, you're just a. Oh, my God. Now that's literally only doing three questions. We'll get some more. Do you believe that thing where folks are like. You're like. Do you believe when I make a conscious effort to not call anyone over 18 a kid or boy? Or. I mean, I'm say girls and, like, girls or dated a boy. But, like, I try to make sure that I don't. I don't go to, like, colleges and say, you kids. Like, when I. Whenever I go to college and do a talk or do a show, I make it a concerted effort to not call them kids.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. I don't call them kids. I also. I try to do that with women, too. Like, I think it's so ingrained to call, like, women girls. And I try my best to really say women, because they're women. They're not girls. Women, Women, Women, women. Hey, girls. No, hey, ladies.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think we can say ladies. All right, Ladies.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I do call drag queens girls. That I do. I do call drag queens girls.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I do. I do that, too. Drag queens. I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No matter whether they are women or men or non binary, I do call drag queens girls. But like, just mere mortals out in the street. Yeah, I try to call them ladies.

[Monet X Change]

Muggles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Muggles. I call them ladies. Or women and men. I call them men. Young, young men. I say guys. I say guys.

[Monet X Change]

Guys and dolls. Have you ever seen the musical Guys and Dolls?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but do you know that Titus Burgess is in Moulin Rouge now?

[Monet X Change]

Is he really? What role is he playing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's playing Mulan Rouge, the mc.

[Monet X Change]

Who?

[Jacob]

Ziddler.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's like the mc.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know who that is.

[Jacob]

Harry Zidler.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's like the guy. He runs the Rouge work I saw

[Monet X Change]

with JoJo in it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I saw Moulin Rouge, and I cannot in good faith say that it was a good musical. I don't.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I personally don't love jukebox musicals. I don't. I'm not a jukebox musical person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've liked one. I went to go see Rock of Ages, but Georgia was fabulous. Rock of Age is one of the best things I've seen on Broadway, actually. It was really good. Rock of Age.

[Monet X Change]

And Rock of Ages is a jukebox musical.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, it is. It's all 80.

[Monet X Change]

Georgia was fabulous. JoJo was amazing. But I wouldn't say like Mulan. But jukebox musicals, by and large, are not my fave. But I've never seen Rock of Ages. Major. Maybe that's a good one. What music is it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Rock of Ages is 80s rock music. Hit me with your best shot.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hit me with your best shot. It was a really good show. It was very, very funny.

[Monet X Change]

Very camp interesting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to our next question.

[Caller Carly]

Hi, Bob and Monet and Jacob. My name is Carly and I'm a fashion designer. Or that's what I'm trying to be. I've tried the corporate and it's just not for me. There's not enough creative freedom for me. I've been thinking it would be so amazing to design for drag queens. I also live in the Bible Belt, so I'm thinking to really expand my career to the furthest, it would probably be best to move. And so I was wondering, you both, having lived in both New York and la, with your experience with the designers, where do you think would be best for me as a designer, as a hopeful designer to relocate to design for Queens? Thank you. Love you all. Love the pod.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I will say this. There is never a shortage of drag queen designers. Okay? We always need designers. A few reasons why. Number one, as someone who has been working with drag queen designers for about a decade now, it is rare to find a designer that is always on time and will always have your shit when you need it. Okay? And some of my really good friends are drag designers. And the struggle is always real. Bob, am I lying or am I telling the truth?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. And they're also, they're also short staffed. A lot of these designers are. So here's the thing I found about drag queen designers. They are also the stitchers in the real design world. Rarely in the high end design world is a designer ever actually making a garment. It is so few and far apart. And you know, I can name three designers who are at the level that me and Monet work at who have like studios and employees. Diego, Domino, Marco and. Oh yeah, four. Diego, Domino, Marco and Pirietta, black and white shirt.

[Monet X Change]

And Godoy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Godoy has employees too. Oh yeah, yeah. That lady who works with them, Aino Stitcher.

[Monet X Change]

So I mean, and again, so. But also I was talking to designer Black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is like six out of the dozens of designers who are making stuff for drag queens at this level.

[Monet X Change]

And there are also. And then you have to realize they're just so much more like Drag Race. I've been talking to designers recently about I was getting stuff made for this thing I did recently and they're saying there are just not enough designers to produce garments for how much Drag Race is happening and how much drag is happening between New York City and la. Like, they just are not enough. They're like one. When one thing ends and another thing happens and you can't keep up and you need something for this finale, and it's just crazy. So, I mean, if you want to get into the drag designing business, I would say your two stops are New York or la, but I would say maybe New York more. I mean, honestly, I don't know. I don't think one more. I would say LA. I feel like I know, like, 12 designers in New York, probably because I live here, but in la, there's only, like, three that I can think of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna go to New York only because I know these New York queens be in these streets buying dresses. Let me tell right now. Rarely have I been to a place where. Where the queens take their drag, so. Because in New York City, you can be a full time working queen and be barely known. Like, you, like, if. If you're like. If you're like a working queen and like, in, like, North Carolina, you are, like, probably the queen of the town or one of the queens of the town, you can be an unknown queen and still pay your bills all through drag in New York City. There are. There are hundreds of drag queens in New York City who are constantly buying clothes. You know, I have friends. My drag daughter Free is someone who started doing costume design pretty late in his, like, he. In his 30s, you know, like in his mid-30s. And he gets so busy, he has to close his books. Like, it gets that busy. So I'm gonna say New York City, because these New York City queens don't be fucking around when it comes to buying. Buying garments. Honey, even me and Monet was buying garments before we started doing from designers, before we were on Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

And also, I will say, listen, if your shit is good, drop your Instagram, girl. Let me see if your stuff is good, I'll buy stuff from you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Drop it to Monet.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, send it to me. I will buy stuff from you. I am.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do not. Do not DM me.

[Monet X Change]

If your stuff is of good quality and it's something that I would. I would absolutely wear it. Oh, I'm going to send you a picture, Bob, of the outfit that Elias I wore for the thing. It came out. It looks so good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Imagine if I was serious, you know?

[Monet X Change]

He's dead serious, y'. All. He's not. He's trying to put on because he feel bad. Bob was dead serious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, I put on a lot of designers, honey. I put them on, honey. On, on, honey. And this is.

[Monet X Change]

And this. And in this I'm wearing all Beaumo Beauty, honey. And it's going on to Bomo Beauty Instagram, honey. We did a photo shoot today.

[Jacob]

Honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did the high school yearbook trend.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God. Let me see yours. I don't know, is your as a woman or man?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

As a woman. I don't know who this girl is. Yo, I. Is this what I would have looked like in high school? Is this, is this, is this me as a high schooler? Is there an app that does it?

[Monet X Change]

What's the app?

[Jacob]

Can you send to the group chat so we can put up on the screen?

[Caller Roman]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me. You want me to send the pictures to the chat?

[Jacob]

I want the app is called Epic Epik.

[Monet X Change]

Epic Epik. I'm going to do it like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who is this woman? Who is this woman? Who is this high school girl? Oh, my God. Elias ate that, right? Elias is so talented. I'm telling you right now. That's another one. I was Elias's first commission ever.

[Monet X Change]

This third one with you and this white.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I cannot also is her. Is the hair in the ponytail. I can't like, is the hood. Is the. What's happening is the hood.

[Monet X Change]

I think the AI fucked it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but does it even look like, like. Well, the one in the cardigan sweater really looks like me.

[Monet X Change]

It does,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

but these are so funny to me.

[Jacob]

Do you have any, like, does this look like any women in your family? Like any of your cousins or aunts?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not really. I mean, this, this low key looks like it could be what Nevaeh my niece is going to look like. Maybe. Do you see that, Jacob?

[Jacob]

Yeah, I can see a little bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And maybe my mom when she was younger. I gotta get a picture of my mom in high school. Let me text my mom, send me

[Monet X Change]

a picture of her in high school.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She gonna be like, boy, I don't know how to find a picture of me high school. Let me ask her. Can you send me that high school picture of you?

[Caller Roman]

Boom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, also, have I said this on the podcast yet?

[Jacob]

I also feel like this really.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They really.

[Jacob]

The AI really lightened your skin tone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have we talked about AI will make

[Monet X Change]

dark skinned black people look light skinned? That is true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have we talked about unclaimed properties on, on, on the podcast yet?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Guys, go to type in the name of your state property and find out if you have any money left from an insurance Claim or. Or from the bank or something. Because I found, like, money for my mom. I found, like, almost $1,000 for my mom.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, we did talk about this because I said, I told you I did it too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I'll be at that time for one more.

[Monet X Change]

Hi, Bob and Monet. My name's Sam from Seattle. So my question is basically, what's, like, a good outfit for a guy? Like, if there's a guy at the shop that's really cute that I want to, like, flirt with, maybe, like, showcase that I'm, like, open to like, maybe sucking some dick, what would be, like, a good, like, outfit for that occasion? Because, like, me and my girlfriends were talking and we were thinking, like, their whore outfits would be different than my whore outfits, and I need some suggestions. What do you think? A whore outfit?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. To let people know that you fucking.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. Is there clothes you wear to scroll

[Bob the Drag Queen]

through Monae's Instagram to signal that? Oh, yeah, scroll through Monae's Instagram. Those are the outfits you should be wearing.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, first of all, that's naked or that's at the beach. Like, if you're at the cvs, what is an outfit you can wear to show. I'm going, I want to suck your dick. Like, what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I'm. I don't wear what you wear to the beach. I don't dress like that at the beach.

[Monet X Change]

That's because you're conservative.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not conservative. Stop saying that.

[Monet X Change]

You, You're. You're.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You are in your dress. I am modest. I'm not conservative. Please stop.

[Monet X Change]

You're conservative.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Please stop telling the Internet that I am conservative. I would like for you to stop saying that out loud. Are you, Are you. Are you at the beach here? Yes.

[Jacob]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Thick icon shorts. Those are. That's a great way to tell somebody you fucking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, you know, I want to say this. First of all, hoochie daddy shorts are a great way to go. I'm talking the top third of your thigh. It should not go below the top third of your thigh. Also, what I find really attractive. And like, when guys wear or, you know, mass presenting AMAP people, or even if they're not a map, a fat people, mass presenting people. Crop tops. A crop top is like, it doesn't

[Monet X Change]

have to shit as you want to fuck, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't. It's not about. It's saying, I'm a little slutty. The outfit is like, I'm a little bit of a whore and I'm a little slutty I'm not saying everyone who dresses is slutty and is a whore, but this style of dress, in my opinion, signals I'm a little bit of a hoe. In my humble opinion.

[Monet X Change]

I think. I mean, I think that the best way, if you're trying to do that, I think that you need to use some nonverbal signals or some gestures. But just because someone is wearing some hoochie daddy shorts doesn't mean that they bought that or just because someone is wearing some hoochie shorts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is not 100%. This is not fail proof. This is just my opinion on how you can signal to people that you are a little bit of a hoe. If those guys wearing these hoochie daddy shorts are sluts. This goes for the straight ones. This goes for the gay ones. If you are out in these streets wearing hoochie daddy shorts, you are a man whore. You are a hoe, and you want people to look at your thighs. If you're especially these straight men, the only reason these straight men are out here wearing these hoochie daddy shorts because they want women to look at their big beefy thighs.

[Monet X Change]

No. Let me tell y', all, if you want to know if somebody's about that life, the to me, the only fail say to know for sure is when a motherfucker's wearing gray sweatpants with no underwear on. If you are wearing sweatpants that have your dick slinging around, that means that you're a whore. That to me, is the 100%.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But what if you're not trying to sell what if you're not trying to sell dick, you're trying to sell mouth, you're trying to sell ass,

[Monet X Change]

Then I would say look and see. See, someone is wearing a whale tail thong. If you're wearing a thong and the whale tail is showing, you know what you're doing. If you're wearing a thong and the whale tail is showing, you know exactly what you're trying to what you're trying to get across.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or if you have a friend who works out TikTok leggings. I'm looking at you. I'm looking at you.

[Monet X Change]

I would say that. I would say that you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm looking at you. I'm talking to you.

[Caller Spencer]

Who?

[Monet X Change]

Jacob. Jacob be wearing those to the gym. All right, Jacob. Jacob is caked up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's you. Monat be in the gym in these very vulgar leggings.

[Monet X Change]

They're not vulgar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Vulgarity is a matter of opinion, and in my opinion, they're vulgar.

[Monet X Change]

Bitch, you're vulgar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're literally in your ass crack. In the crack of your ass. Okay?

[Monet X Change]

That is how I feel comfortable at the gym. And I tell you, I'm not saying that it's wrong.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said it's vulgar. I didn't say it's wrong. I just said it's vulgar.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think it's vulgar. And just because me feeling comfortable in my body at the gym does not make me vulgar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did not say that it was

[Monet X Change]

bad, Monet, but I did not say it's bad. I'm saying it's not vulgar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For me, it skirts vulgarity. How about that? It's skirt.

[Monet X Change]

Well, that's. That's your opinion on either side of anything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like you ever see someone in. In the New York City put their ass cheek on their. Wrap their ass around the pole?

[Monet X Change]

That does not happen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, okay. First of all, I've seen that happen. I have seen in real life, yes. Someone back that up to the beat and their asses wrap around that pole. And if you are a New Yorker, you see someone wrap their ass cheeks around a pol. A subway poll comment below. I have seen it.

[Monet X Change]

I am born and raised in New York and I have literally never seen it. There was that viral video that lady did that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I saw an episode of the Cosbys where. Where Theo was trying to go into the city. And Theo didn't know how to get to the city because he. Because he. Cause his family was rich and they had never taken the train. You're Theo.

[Monet X Change]

Bob. You are you. I lived in New York for years before you, before knowing you. And I had a car and I. I used to take the train to the city. I've been taking the train since I was 11 years old to go to school.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, so Monet is over in Jersey. I don't know where she is, but apparently she is not able to finish the episode with me because of technical difficulties. So thank you all so much for giving us. Jacob, I want to ask you a question. What do you say that one time we do video submissions?

[Jacob]

Yeah, people want to do that. That's fine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess we'll get one or two.

[Jacob]

I think the main issue is that we have a Google Drive folder that all the submissions go into. And the Google Drive has like, unless we want to pay extra for like extra storage, like, the Google Drive is going to cap out really, really quickly with videos.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, we did.

[Monet X Change]

We did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We did it with the. We did it with our. When we made that commercial for the Patreon we did video.

[Jacob]

That was cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But anyway, it's an idea. We'll put it out there.

[Monet X Change]

We'll do a few.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And thank you all for joining us.

[Monet X Change]

We'll see you,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

but.