Sibling Advicery: Halitosis/Drag Con

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – "Sibling Advicery: Halitosis/Drag Con"

Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen
Date: April 26, 2023

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Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry brings together the irreverent drag icons and best-friend duo Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen for a signature blend of comedy, advice, and unfiltered discussion. Responding to listener questions, they serve up their takes (and roasts) regarding social anxieties in queer spaces, dealing with a partner’s halitosis (bad breath), and tips for surviving RuPaul’s DragCon. Weaving through stories about the queer community, game nights, and their own viral moments, Bob and Monét use both wisdom and wit to connect with their fans, whether the topics are serious or outrageously profane.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up: Lights, Teeth, and Drag Queen Gossip

[00:10–06:11]

• Monét starts with a lighthearted roast of Bob's lighting—"You are looking red. You look like me. This is the color you say I am." [00:14]
• Conversation shifts to Monét’s Invisalign journey and tooth insecurities.
  • Monét: "Some people have made fun of me for having big teeth... Do I have big teeth?" [01:03]
  • Bob assures her: "I don't recall ever making fun of your teeth for any reason." [02:27]
• They poke fun at the seriousness of their dental conversations and poke at quack dentists and pseudoscience.
• Recap of Monét’s experience at the LGBT Center Honors, including T.S. Madison hosting, and joking riffs on the acronym (e.g., “Lickabouty” for LGBT).

2. Queer Culture, Drag Events & Game Nights

[06:11–13:07]

• Monét shares her admiration for queer vocalist Durand Bernarr and clarifies confusion with Terrell Grice ("the guy reacting to singers on YouTube").
• Bob notes how singers have dramatic reactions to vocals:
  • "The way that singers react is just so... It’s for me, someone who’s not a trained singer, it just looks like y’all are doing too much..." [07:11]
• Game night shenanigans:
  • Peppermint is highlighted as both intentionally and unintentionally hilarious.
  • Gossip about playing "Secret Hitler" with friends—which causes Bob to balk at the politically incorrect name:
    • "They couldn't find nobody else to name a game after?" [12:31]
• Playful discussion about diss tracks from their RuPaul’s Drag Race “beef,” and whether Monet and Mistress Isabelle Brooks "colluded."

3. Social Media Antics & Friendship Affirmation

[17:14–20:40]

• The duo discusses how talking to each other improves their mood.
• Appreciation for each other’s friendship and unexpected supportive tweets.
• Social media pranks, like impersonating each other or fan accounts, come up.
  • Bob: “Also, do you know how long I had to Google how to write a crossed out tweet?” [18:17]
  • Monet: “I look beautiful. Bob. We need to start giving some advice. We need to start advising. Yeah. 20 minutes in. This is crazy.” [20:33]

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Listener Advice Segment

A. Feeling Out of Place in Gay Spaces

[20:42–26:27]
Caller Elijah from Minnesota

• Elijah feels alienated from hyper-sexualized gay scenes, despite being gay and wanting community.
• Both Bob and Monét relate to aspects:
  • Monet offers: "When I go to gay spaces out of drag, I am not being sexualized... that's just not my experience." [22:19]
  • Bob speculates Elijah may be conventionally attractive and thus gets more sexual attention.
  • Suggestions include seeking out queer game nights, faith-based gatherings, or other sober, non-club events.
• Bob reveals: "Being a drag queen, you will be instantly desexualized. If you want to go to the club and not get sexual attention, try being a drag queen." [24:27]

B. Navigating a Partner with Bad Breath (Halitosis)

[32:12–44:45]
Caller: Teamo Nation

• Caller struggles with telling a new boyfriend about his bad breath – Is it a dealbreaker?
• Advice breakdown:
  • Bob: “Telling someone they have bad breath feels mean. Offering someone gum does not feel mean.” [34:13]
  • Both agree it’s tricky at the start of a relationship.
  • Monét suggests hinting by talking about how much she values good oral hygiene.
    • "I just love fresh breath. Like, that really gets me going... that may give them, like, a signal... and they may check on that more." [38:13]
  • Bob recommends gentle honesty: express all the good things about the relationship, then delicately raise the issue.
    • “I do want to mention something. I’ve noticed that sometimes... I think you have halitosis and sometimes it makes it a little hard.” [39:22]
  • They improv a role-play of the conversation, ending in hilarious over-the-top confrontation—Monét’s “Well, you know bitch, sometimes your pussy offends me. How about that?” [41:47]
  • Both agree: if the relationship gets serious, honesty is best; in the early stages, signals and tact help.

C. DragCon Survival Guide

[45:28–53:16]
Caller: First-time DragCon Attendee

• Monet’s Tips:
  • “Be mindful of where you are hugging the queens... you’re pulling my wig back.” [45:48]
  • Don’t trauma dump on the queens—they meet thousands and being emotionally overwhelmed can happen.
• Bob’s Strict Protocol:
  • "Do not hug the queens... I do not allow people at DragCon to touch me in any capacity... I'm not going to make you stand up and stand in line in some form of discomfort, but there are people in wheelchairs in the line." [47:19, 51:10]
  • Use hand sanitizer, minimize contact; DragCon germs are real.
  • Wear flats; bring comfortable shoes and hydrate.
  • Strategize lines—consider the “buddy system” to cut down wait times.
• Notable story: Bob’s argument with a fan about cutting the line due to disability, ultimately standing firm to keep it fair for all.

D. Career Advice: Pro Bono or Paycheck?

[53:23–59:26]
Caller: Renz, 28, NYC Attorney

• Loves pro bono work (supporting trans immigrants, sealing records) but fears giving up a high-earning finance law job.
• Bob: “You have to find a balance, right? We live in a capitalist society, and you really don’t get to opt out of it.... Maybe every summer you do some pro bono work.” [54:51]
• Monet: Warns against quitting a lucrative specialty for only passion work, suggests balance (do X pro bono cases per year).
• Both urge him not to burn out or build resentment by sacrificing all financial comfort.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Game Names:

  • Bob: “Secret Hitler? They couldn’t find nobody else to name a game after?” [12:31]

• On Shady Friendship:

  • Bob: “All you produce is a headache for me. That’s what you produce.” [05:39]

• On DragCon Hygiene:

  • Bob: “Do not hug the queens. I do not allow people at DragCon to touch me in any capacity… you’re gonna get us sick.” [47:19]

• On Relationship Honesty:

  • Bob (roleplaying): “I do want to mention something. I’ve noticed that sometimes… I think you have halitosis and sometimes it makes it a little hard.” [39:22]
  • Monét (roleplaying): “Well, you know bitch, sometimes your pussy offends me. How about that?” [41:47]

• On Navigating Gay Spaces:

  • Bob: “Being a drag queen, you will be instantly desexualized… They turn into Jasmine from Aladdin.” [24:31]

• On Self-Image:

  • Monet: “My head is lopsided. It’s fine… People have said it on TikTok before. It’s fine.” [58:45]
  • Bob: “From what I hear, your head is great and a little toothy, but it’s great.” [59:15]

• On DragCon Line Drama:

  • Bob: “I looked at him and I said, well, just to be clear, there are two other people in line right now who are also in wheelchairs.” [51:10]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Teeth & Lights; Dentist Rant: 00:10 – 03:00
• Game Night & DragCon Stories: 06:11 – 13:07
• Social Media/Bestie Affirmation: 17:14 – 20:40
• Advice #1: Gay Spaces Anxiety: 20:42 – 26:27
• Advice #2: Halitosis/Dating: 32:12 – 44:45
• Advice #3: DragCon Survival: 45:28 – 53:16
• Advice #4: Law Career Dilemma: 53:23 – 59:26

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Tone & Chemistry

The episode is classic Sibling Rivalry: loving roasts, rapid-fire wisecracks, and caring advice. The hosts move seamlessly from playful bickering (“All you produce is a headache for me”) to heartfelt support. Even the most sensitive topics (like how to tell a date they have bad breath) are served with a blend of empathy and outrageous, draggy humor.

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Final Thoughts

In “Sibling Advicery: Halitosis/DragCon,” Monét and Bob deliver a masterclass in blending comedy with community support. Whether counseling listeners through queer community pitfalls or offering strategic DragCon tips, their answers are as honest and genuine as they are irreverent. The result is an episode brimming with laughter, wisdom, and the fierce friendship and chemistry that make Sibling Rivalry a queer podcast staple.

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Transcript

[Monet X Change]

Hi, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hi, Mo. How are you?

[Monet X Change]

You know this light you're using, it's giving Monet exchange. Because you are looking red. You look like me. This is the color you say I am.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it's a combination of my. Like, I'm a little side lit, and then I'm using this ring light. But it does have these little things on it. So maybe if I take this off, it'll get. This is on it. I have a few of these.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, bitch. You fully bitch. You were casting red light on you like Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I use these all the time. First of all, I didn't Monet. What I said was, I have a little bit of light from the side. You'd love to hyperbolize me, but I use this all the time. And I do have several of these on there. But I like a warm light versus a cool light.

[Monet X Change]

You know, I like a cool light. I mean, I like something right in the middle. I think it's like, I like mine 3000k. I think that's the number of the thing I had. To everyone who's listened to the podcast. You know, I've been on this invisalign journey for, like, three effing years for literally one thing to close this. This tiny gap that I want to close. And because your canines are apparently the hardest tooth to rotate and to move, they're, like, the hardest one. So I'm with a new dentist here in la, and I was doing the thing with him, and I was like, you know, people often. Well, not often. Some people have made fun of me for having big teeth. He was like, do I have big teeth? He's like, no. He's like, your teeth are. Your teeth are like, everyone's teeth is the size to their. To their. Like, it's. What's the word I'm looking for?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Scale to their skull, proportion to their mouth.

[Monet X Change]

Proportion. Yeah, it's proportion to their head. And I was like, I'm not sure. That's not true. Like, I've, like, we've all seen people that have, like, really big teeth, and we've seen people that have, like, really small teeth. I don't think that's always.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Second opinion. You're at a quack. It's giving quack. Because Andy was like, it's giving pseudoscience.

[Monet X Change]

Do you think. Do you think. Have you ever made fun of me having big teeth?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have I made fun of you for having big teeth?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I can't remember if you, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, that doesn't. That doesn't. I Don't recall ever making fun of your teeth for any reason.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, thank you. I appreciate that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you for not doing that at this point. You could have just gotten them replaced with teeth that are closer to each other.

[Monet X Change]

That's literally what I said. I was like, this. I was like, this is what I was trying to avoid from the beginning when I went to my first freaking dentist. And I was like, you know, I just want to get veneers. And then she refused to give me veneers. She's like, no, you have good teeth. You're not getting veneers. I'm like, but you're not my mother. I want veneers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So now you've been, yeah, that person messed you up in all of us because now we all been sitting around listening to you on the podcast.

[Monet X Change]

You know, I hate it so much. I hate it. I fucking hate now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I be it. I be it. This is why I'm at dinner with my friend. And then. And then I always have to get the.

[Monet X Change]

And I don't care. And I do it proudly. I'm like, yes, hi, can I get

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the petite sirloin and. I'm sorry,

[Monet X Change]

the petite sirloin? First of all, you bitch. You know me. I'm getting. I'm getting the grande sirloin if I'm getting motherfucking curled sirloin. Ok. I went to the LGBT center gala last night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We prefer Lickaby.

[Monet X Change]

So much

[Bob the Drag Queen]

lgbt.

[Monet X Change]

You've heard of Lickabouty?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lgbt. Lickabouty.

[Monet X Change]

The LGBT Center Honors gala last night. T.S. madison hosted.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, they don't. At this gala. They don't do T I Q A plus?

[Monet X Change]

No, because they're not real. Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

This is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

LGT as bad as no QIA plus,

[Monet X Change]

no questioning Bob lgbt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What about the qia?

[Monet X Change]

You know, the other day, I was talking to someone. Someone was. Someone was. Oh, a patron at. In Austin that I end up seeing. I did the Moontown. I ended up seeing them out in the street, and they're like, oh, my God. You know, someone afraid. They're like, I love the podcast. Like, I really, really thank you for the episode you guys did about the. About the LGBT episode we did about. About healthcare and health services for the

[Bob the Drag Queen]

one we did in conjunction with Chevrolet.

[Monet X Change]

And then I was on the episode, and I was thinking about thinking back to the episode, and I was fucking cracking up. Every time you would say you were like, lgbt, you were just stressing each letter so hard. The lgbt. Oh, that was so bad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Tulsa Book Report. Let's keep Moving.

[Monet X Change]

Let's go on. So. Oh, wait, this advice. We can't even do this. Anyway. Anyway, I'll tell you on whatever we normally do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

15 minutes and then some time.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, we do like five minutes in that question.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't try to. Jake, let Jacob produce. You're not. You're not the. The story producer.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, I am. First of all, I am a producer on this podcast. I am.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not the. All you're producing. All you produce is a headache for me. That's what you. That's what you produce. You're always trying to move. You're always trying to move. Jacob, let Jacob do his job. You produce what you produce. Let Jacob do what he produce.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, I'm not gonna let you take me there. Anyway, I wish you were here. It was the LGBT Center Honors and, like, everyone was out. Like, it was. T.S. madison hosted it. They honored. They gave Keke Palmer a Vanguard Award and Pamela Anderson got a Vanguard Award. And also. Are you a fan of Duran Bernard?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who is that?

[Monet X Change]

So I. He's a. He's an amazing fucking queer vocalist, and he is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is this the one we were behind at the Cajun concert?

[Monet X Change]

No, that was Avery Wilson, obviously. But Duran Bernard, dope ass vocalist I used to. I recognize. So I became a fan of his back in the day because he used to do BGVs for Erykah Badu, and he was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, wait, Duran Bernard's the one. No, that's. Wait, who's the one that does that video podcast where he just is listening to people sing and reacting and he's dressed it in blue.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, that's Terrell. Terrell Grice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's always just. I don't know anything about him. All I know is that he's always listening to people singing and going, like, Sometimes singers are low key, like, doing so much and not.

[Monet X Change]

But it's not the vav. You never heard a vocal and just have, like a spiritual experience?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not the way that singers do. The way that singers do. Like, I've had moments where I, like, cried. Where I've, like, cried and stuff. But the way that singers react is just so. It's. It's it for me, someone who's not a trained singer. It just looks like y' all are doing too much like it. Y' all just acting like you had a fucking.

[Monet X Change]

You know, the way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, the way black folks act when we laugh is something that's really, really funny. And we start grabbing each other and, like, y' all act like. Like, like, it's a comedy. Like, it's. It's so strange to me that it's amazing.

[Monet X Change]

And we were. It was. So.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to do an impersonation. This. How y' all be, yo. This always be. It's. It's always.

[Monet X Change]

It's always.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, start singing.

[Ad Read Voice 1]

Just.

[Monet X Change]

Just. Take a lighter. Take a lighter with hairspray.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, what? All right, sorry, go ahead.

[Monet X Change]

So at my table, it was myself, Pep.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, by the way, Duran is hot. By the way, woof. If this. Thinking it is. Duran is very.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Duran is beautiful. Duran is very creature.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, woo.

[Monet X Change]

And we've chatted before on social media. We've exchanged numbers, and we've, like, texted, and we never really hung out, but it's my first time meeting him in person.

[Ad Read Voice 1]

And

[Monet X Change]

you sound like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You.

[Monet X Change]

You sound like you're doing the voice from Frozen 2. You feel like you're doing the voice from Frozen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You better. You better sing it. I did this thing with. Sorry, go ahead. I am. I am really.

[Listener Caller 1]

I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My, my.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My mind is all over today. Lgaboody L. LGBT

[Monet X Change]

So I might say with myself, Andy. Pep. And I'm her friend, and it was Karamo and his partner. Oh, my God. Okay. Doing anything with Peppermint. I don't think I understand. I've said this before. Doing anything with Peppermint. Peppermint is so funny. Pep just has.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's hilarious. Well, she's hilarious for two reasons. One, because she's trying to be. And two, because she's also not trying to be like Peppermint.

[Monet X Change]

She's not trying to be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sometimes she's funny because she's, like, intentionally being funny, like, with the race thing. And then.

[Monet X Change]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then sometimes she's funny because she's just Peppermint. The ball of. She's like a positive tornado of energy.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Yes. It's just so funny. So I'm just cracking up. Peppermint's doing a bunch of shit. So Joanna sings this song, and he has the word niggin. I can't remember the melody of it. So then, so myself sitting here. Andy's next to me. Peppermint is next to Andy. So we're doing this song. And then so me, so myself, Pep, Karamo and Keke Palmer, we're all, like, up. We're, like, dancing. We're like. We're, like, doing all this stuff to the power of the nigga. Go back. And we all. Yes. Literally all of that, like, living. Right. So we have the part where the part with the word nigga in it. So me and Pep are like doing our phones. So then without missing a beat, we just both put our phones to Andy. We're like, come on, Andy, sing along. Sing it too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not mic up.

[Monet X Change]

But it was a lot of fun

[Bob the Drag Queen]

when we were with pep at the VMAs and I started crying during Nikki's vanguard performance.

[Monet X Change]

Vanguard performance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I started cr. I was crying and Peppermint was like. She started doing a moment of her life and I was like, at this

[Monet X Change]

very moment, I'm king.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At this very moment, I was like, come on. I was trying to sing it with Nikki, but then I started crying and it was. But then it was so fucking funny.

[Monet X Change]

Well, Pep is here for a few weeks, for like two months because she's doing. She's doing something. And. But we're excited because Pep is going to be living here. You know, Pep loves games and we're going to have some game nights. Bitch. Bob, have you played Secret Hitler before?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to go to game night. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Jacob, please come. Come on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have a new game I'm obsessed with. It's called Deadly Dowagers. You play as 18th century English women trying to find a rich husband.

[Monet X Change]

I love that. That sounds great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were going to invite my baby, so.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I. First of all, Jacob has come to many game nights without you, honey. So please.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

While I've been in town. That's the realty. While I was sitting at home talking about something not out of town. I'm talking about me sitting at home not knowing Jake Thomas. I'm in the gym. Jacob said, I'm at a hustle.

[Monet X Change]

Bob, have you ever played. Bob, next time you're here, we have to play Secret Hitler with you when I tell you. We played at last time at the house and it was crazy. I was like Bob playing Secret Hitler.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Beep bop to the beep. Boop. Is this the name of the game on the package?

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Secret Hitler.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They couldn't find nobody else to name a game after. There wasn't no one. We couldn't even bring.

[Listener Caller 2]

Well,

[Monet X Change]

meddling Mussolini was taken.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This game sounds. Jacob, I am right after Passover. Passed Monet just after Passover. Jacob, I'm so sorry.

[Monet X Change]

Secret Hitler is so fun. And we played it with your arch

[Bob the Drag Queen]

nemesis saying that that's name of the

[Monet X Change]

game we play with your arch nemesis, Jenny Jaffe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And when I see. Listen, Jaffe, now that I've gotten Mistress Isabelle Brooks taken down, you're next. And when I say on site, I'm not gonna. I'm, you know. Ten queens down, three to go. And I'm laying bitches out like dominoes, honey. So what else I'm.

[Monet X Change]

I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't know who said that? Ten queens down, three to go. And I'm laying bitches out like dominoes. You don't know who said that? Try to guess.

[Monet X Change]

I don't. Who is that? No, it's not Nikki.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ten queens down, three to go. And I'm laying bitches out like dominoes.

[Monet X Change]

Doja cat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You all know in the comments. Comment. In the comments. You all know who said it.

[Monet X Change]

So when Bob and Mitchell was on their little beef. Cause, you know, Jacob thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob's over there. Google. I know, I know. Jacob's not off the top of my head. No, I don't.

[Monet X Change]

Who is it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It sounds like a Ru girl, though. That sounds like something you would say in a Rugor verse. It's Peppermint.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you said Peppermint is one of your favorite rappers. I didn't know that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I actually. Well, she's not one of my favorite rap. I don't think she would call herself a rapper, but one of my favorite songs from Pep is a rap song is called Black Pepper. Anyway, go ahead.

[Monet X Change]

So when you and Mitches were in your little rap beef era, and I was like. I was on vacation. I was like. I didn't have a microphone. I didn't have mystery camera or anything. And so I wanted to a diss track, so I started writing one. Do you want to hear just. I literally just like four lines. You want to hear it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm all ears. Also, by the way, I had to take. I already discussed it, but I know you and Mistress colluded. I know you were Russia. I know you're Russia.

[Monet X Change]

What are you talking about?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's Trump and you're Russia. You colluded.

[Monet X Change]

You mad? What are you talking about?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And the way you're laughing. She meddled. You medaled. Yeah, just like Trump. Y' all still lost.

[Monet X Change]

You meddled. I was like, girl. I was like, girl, you have to go in. I was like. I was like. I was like, you talk about these things and give me this. I was like, I. I'm on a plane, but please talk about these 10 things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know Monet's dirty work when I see it. I listen. I've been playing in the mud with you for a long time, and I know you're when I see them, honey.

[Monet X Change]

I was going to be Like I had to take a break while I'm on this vacation to protect my mistress and the God from own nation. Bob, what's the tea, sis? That's all I had. And I was going to go in but I was like, what? That's good, bitch. But I had to take a break while I'm on this vacation to protect my mistress and thug out for moan nation. Bob, what's the tea, sis?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's take a let you know. Let's let the comments decide if you.

[Monet X Change]

I'm the one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What what what we'll talk about. Let's do you know what? I got some advice for your for your lyrics and I'll give some more people advice when we get back.

[Monet X Change]

I have some advice for yours.

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[Listener Caller 3]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Listener Caller 4]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me say, I was in a bad mood. Obviously I was annoyed when we like this morning talking to you and putting me in such a crate when I'm in such high spirits right now. Thank you so much for bringing me out of the. Not these. My little slump.

[Monet X Change]

I'm a great person, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree. You're wonderful. That's why I'm so proud that you're my bestie.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm so grateful for that tweet that you said about me that was so nice of you to see. It really made me feel good. I was very unexpected and I opened my Twitter and I saw that it really. It meant a lot to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I understand. That's why it also meant a lot

[Monet X Change]

to me for you to lend me

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the handle Monet Xchange to do it. That meant a lot to me. I was really grateful for what you said and how you even to see you interact with Julietta on Twitter was really cool.

[Monet X Change]

Someone made a Julieta Twitter and they made the profile picture. Cicely Tyson said, I am lost it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, do you know how long I had to Google how to write a crossed out tweet? Like, bitch, that shit took me forever.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I didn't even know how to. Wait, you crossed out a tweet?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. You write a word, but then you cross out the. Just go, bitch. Go read my. Go read your response to what I said.

[Monet X Change]

There's so much deception going on. Do you mean from what. Wait, did you retweet under me?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It says, thank you, Bob, for finally giving me the peace I need. As part of the 1% and heirs to the throne of St. Lucia, this is the reverence I am owed. And then it says, Julietta, and that's crossed out. And then it says, Monet x change.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, I did see that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then Julietta said, please let me out of the dungeon. I said, shut your filthy mouth. If you want to eat your weekly meal, you'll do as you're told. And I first of all, a picture of you. And then it says, screaming, you really got me with this one. And I just wrote, monet.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, I know Jacob helped you do that in terms of. Because I know you did not remember what my profile picture was. I know you didn't. Jacob had to remind you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Google has it. It's all on Google. Jacob did not help me. It's all on Google. Monet. There's something called a digital footprint, and it lasts a long time. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

What did you just. How did you. What did you just Google? What was Monet's profile picture?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You Google Monet's Twitter and then you go to images, and then it shows images of things that you tweeted.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, gag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I do remember this because I remember thinking to myself, why did Monet use a screenshot from a TV show as her profile picture? That's so strange. Cause I look beautiful. I was like, monet has photo shoots. I remember thinking, I said, monae has photo shoots. Monet would choose a screenshot where she's mid sentence as her profile picture. Monet's like, oh, photo shoots be done. Monet done paid thousands of dollars. Photo shoots, studios, studio rentals. I mean, granted, mine is a screen grab from Mistress, but mine was silly. You weren't being silly. You think this is. But you think this is better than a photo shoot with your name in the bottom left corner?

[Monet X Change]

I look beautiful. Bob. We need to start giving some advice. We need to start advising. Yeah. 20 minutes in. This is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's do some advice.

[Listener Caller 1]

Okay. Hey, Bob and Monet, this is going to be a really weird question, so sorry for asking it. Love you guys. Longtime listener from Minnesota, Elijah. I got a question and it's, it's, it's hard to explain, actually. It's not. My issue is I don't like the gay community. I'm very gay, love doing gay stuff. But when I get into gay spaces, they're always. It feels too aggressive, amped and hypersexual for me. And then I get like scared and uninterested and I instantly have to leave and I leave with the bad taste in my mouth and I end up resenting the gay community a bit more because of it. So I'm just trying to figure out how do I find gay spaces that aren't hypersexual yet?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just that the fact that I, I feel so called out because I, I was gonna. One of my first things I was gonna say was like, I always feel like people named Elijah are very sexy. Elijah, like. And then I was like, that's why I went.

[Monet X Change]

You know, as it pertains to gay spaces being hypersexual, I think it may be the type of. I mean, again, you're saying where you are, this is happening. I've been to many gay clubs and maybe we just have a different experience. There's a chance. Also you are a very attractive person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think a lot of probably fucking.

[Monet X Change]

Right? And again, that does not mean that people should sexualize you. But I think that when you are a very beautiful person, people are probably. That's the energy people are getting from you and they want to. And they may be inappropriate in that way. But when I go to gay spaces out of drag, I am not being sexualized. So that's just not my experience. But I understand that that may be yours. And I think that maybe, maybe. But I know you want to go out to dance and you want to go to the club and live a life and have a good time and just. And not feel that way. And that's tough. But I just, I don't have the experience. I don't even know what advice I can give you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I honestly, low key feel the same way. I've just. The only time I've ever really been truly sexualized out in public is if I'm at the bar in drag. And it's some chaser who's really trying to get wild. And I just do not navigate the world as a person who is people. I don't know anything about Elijah, but I think Elijah might be very conventionally attractive. Elijah probably has a really conventionally attractive body and is sculpted or something like that. Again, that does not mean that you should be sexualized. Have you thought about going to a queer church? I don't know if you're religious. Have you thought about going to a. A faith based place that is affirming two queers? Have you thought about going to a. Besides that? I don't know what to. Because, like. Because I will say every. I will say like the, the. The. The. The dodgeball leagues, they all be fucking the.

[Monet X Change]

Do they.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, the Monet. These sport. These gay sports leagues. They are. They are just pre bath house workouts. Like that's all they are. But you know what? Here it is. Being a drag queen, you will be instantly desexualized. If you want to go to the club and not get sexual attention, try being a drag queen. I've seen that work for some very conventionally attractive men.

[Monet X Change]

That is true. That is true. I've seen some be a drag queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've seen some very hot men get up in drags and go in the club and be like, baby, it's a different. It's a whole new world. They turn into Jasmine. They turn into Jasmine from Aladdin.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Yeah. I would say to maybe try to seek out some other things. Like, I mean. And again, I think it's a world that I'm like just finding out about. But there's like a lot of like gaming communities in terms like board games. And do they maybe. Oh, well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I went to a party the other day and I was like, oh my God, this is a weird. It was a Sailor Moon theme party down at dtla. And I was like, this is a very strange place to find out that I am attracted to men in Sailor Moon costumes. Like, I was like, I didn't expect to unearth this feeling today, but it was a lot of. It was a lot of. I didn't realize how many black people love Sailor Moon. I had no clue until I did Sailor Moon or Princess Serenity on the episode of Legendary. And the black nerds who love Sailor Moon. I just did not know because that was not my experience as a kid. None of my friends like Sailor Moon, you know what I mean? Pokemon, but not Sailor Moon specifically. And all these like hot guys walking around in Sailor Moon costumes. I was like, I just unearthed.

[Monet X Change]

Was it a party just for Sailor Moon?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was a drag. It was a Sailor Moon themed drag show. It was bitchin' Bitch puddings party.

[Monet X Change]

Got it, got it, got it, got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every, every. It's a different theme and they're all kind of nerd based. And you saw all the, all the femboys walk around in Sailor Moon costumes. You remember them, Jacob? Yes, ma'.

[Listener Caller 1]

Am.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it was wild. I was like, Anyway, so, Elijah, I

[Monet X Change]

would say maybe try to. Try to open your queer horizons to maybe not the club for a while and maybe try other queer adjacent activities or leagues that may not be the club. Because I mean, again, nighttime at a club, people are drinking, people are smoking, people are doing whatever. So people a little more loose. So I'd say maybe try going to events that is not so much alcohol and that stuff involved. And maybe a more sober experience may lend itself to people not being hypersexual.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's true. Maybe you can find like a, like a sewing class, a queer based sewing class. You know, you go to the queer. The LGTB saying, I don't know, I don't know where you live. Did he say where he lives? Minnesota. Yeah, Minnesota.

[Monet X Change]

Minnesota.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, but we don't know where in Minnesota. We don't know if that's Minneapolis. We don't know if that's boot scoop bibbily Bop Minnesota. But if you are in a big city, you go to the LGBT LGBT center, you can find like bulletins for events that aren't centered around alcohol or don't go out and drink afterwards. And, you know, the sober scene actually was a place I don't recommend you go and pretend to be sober, or I recommend you go pretend to be sober. But in my experience, in the sober scene, that was also not an experience that I had. No one was trying to dick me down. Dick me down, down Dick me down down show you how you do it and dick me down. Oh, work. Oh, work.

[Monet X Change]

I did a college gig at University of California, Santa Barbara. And Bob, what I tell you,

[Listener Caller 2]

I

[Monet X Change]

was telling you this, but like, I had. So I went to a pretty. Because I went to a choir college, right? But it's for the most part liberal. These kids at University of California, Santa Barbara, bitch. They take liberals to a new meaning. Bitch. We walked in for the time Patty and I walked in and mind you, this is a. I'm doing standup and like they had a college thing like, whatever. We walk in, they're like, you want to do some shots. I was like, no, I'm gonna start getting ready. I mean, again, I was one of the greatest. It was one of the greatest times.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm shocked that you said no. That's what I'm shocked at.

[Monet X Change]

I'm shocked that you said no, especially.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause I know you said you drove there and I know how you love to. And Hong Kong.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Anyway, shout out to university. University of California, Santa Barbara. A great school, a great community of students there. Everyone was so lovely. And I was like, this is where I wish I went to sometimes. I wish I had that college experience. Like, it's obviously a big ass school. And it just seemed everyone did. Was so cool. I'm like, y' all just look. No, I did not. I asked if Oprah was. If Oprah was gonna come, but they said no. Bitch.

[Listener Caller 2]

Megan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Megan and Harry, you were in Santa Barbara. I'm triggered. Continue.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. I don't know what that means, but yeah, everyone there was so cool. And I wish. I wish I was that cool. And a lot of. A lot of the girls had like nipple piercings and stuff. I was like, like, y' all are like, who I wish I was when I was like that age, you know? Do you ever want to pierce your nipples?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't. My nipples are. Are sensitive in a bad way. Not sensitive in a way that's like, ooh, ooh, it's sensitive. And like, don't touch them. But I don't. But like, don't. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The sensation is not good for me. You can still get your nipples pierced.

[Monet X Change]

Well, yeah, but they take too long to heal. And when. And I've like every, like multiple people I've asked, they're like, yeah, it takes a long time to heal. And because you're always putting things on, like, they're always getting irritated and it's just like. It's just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can go to grad school and get the. And get the college experience again.

[Monet X Change]

Because, Robert, I want to take some college classes. I want to do. I want to do like African American studies. I want to do like a Spanish class, like legit, like at a college.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch, if you don't download Babbel and fucking keep it moving, who has time to go back to. You're going to go back to college. Monet exchanged me.

[Monet X Change]

I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're going back to college. Okay, yeah, you know what?

[Monet X Change]

I want to go with my backpack, my books in my hand. I want to like, Halo fantasy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hey, guys, it's My first day of school. So excited to be back. It's really exciting to me. Monet with a tumbler with a straw in it. Monet wants to go back to college for Instagram photos. You know, Monet gonna be on the canvas. I'm gonna like, like, shut your old ass up. Like, shut your old ass up.

[Monet X Change]

What the hell your old ass doing up in here?

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[Listener Caller 3]

Hello, Bob and Monae. Love you both. Although I'm Teemo Nation, I have a question. I just started dating this guy and he's great. We get along so well. We've been having a ton of fun, but he has bad breath. It's not always, but it's enough that it's troubling. And I. I'm not the best with confrontation. How should I deal with this? Do I tell him? Is it a deal breaker? I know only I can really answer that. I think you guys should do an improv to let me know how I should handle this. Love you both. Bye.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so. Oh, so now you're a producer on the show. Very monation. It's giving very monation trying to come in here. We will not be improving it. We'll probably do one. You know, I was just spending some time with a person who we were commenting on how we smell, and we were both like, oh, I like the way you smell. And he was like, I like the way you smell. And we were like, great. And then he said something that I never thought about. He goes, you know, they say if you just, like, don't like the way someone smells, you're just not attracted to them. And I don't know the science behind that, but he was just like, if you don't. If you don't, like, if the way someone smells repels you, then you're probably not attracted to them. And I've never thought about that. I like to smell my partner. I like to my partner and, you know, we smell each other. But breath is different. You can have bad breath. Like, I don't know how long you've been dating. Telling someone they have bad breath feels mean. It feels very mean. Handing. Offering someone gum does not feel mean. But that's not actually getting to fixing

[Monet X Change]

the problem because I don't know if you're part.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know if this person has halitosis. Do you remember back in the day they used to have that pill you would take for halitosis? It was in like a bottle with like a rainbow on it. Jacob, can you Google this? It was called, like Centrum or it was a bottle with a.

[Monet X Change]

With a Centrum is like a. It's like a multivitamin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think they also made a halitosis pill and it was a white bottle with like a little rainbow at the top or something. And it would treat bad breath or halitosis in the 90s. Anyway, maybe it's a diet thing, because I found that a lot of people sometimes you can brush your teeth. They're recommended. It's not that you don't brush your teeth. It's just that maybe they're not flossing. You know what I mean? Or maybe they do have a underlying health condition or an underlying condition that is causing the bad breath. Like, or maybe it's not their diet. What do you think, Monae? Like, how do you tell? Especially when you first started dating?

[Monet X Change]

You know, it's really tough. I mean, I think that when you first start dating, that's very awkward. I think that after a while, like, you know, for example, Andy and I, if like he's having like a spell or something, I'd be like, babe, you gotta. And he'll be like, oh, okay. And like, you know, he'll do a thing. But also, we've been together for almost two years now. So, like, that's a little easier.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But at the beginning, it's almost two years.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, September's gonna be two years. Is that almost two years? Is that too fast, too soon?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, almost. I guess it's low key. A little bit subjective. Maybe I say you should say it's relative. There we go.

[Monet X Change]

It's relative. Relative.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There we Go.

[Monet X Change]

The other day, Patty and I were in this car, we were going to a thing and the guy was taking us. We had to go to. I had to do this live podcast taking beforehand. And I was like, how far is it? He was like, oh, it's just around the corner. No, he didn't say it. He's like, he's like, it's. It's not too far or something like that. One of those words. I was like, well, baby, I'm not from here. That to you, that, that might be an hour or it could mean five minutes. Like I don't know what is not too far means. You know what I mean? That's so relative.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're right. New Yorkers know. If you live in New York City, you know that down the street for New Yorkers could be literally 40 blocks. It's right down this street. It's right down. If you're on Broadway, bitch, you could be. It could be four miles down. This could be.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

New Yorkers love to say right down. If you just go right down this street. Southerners, when we say down this street, we are talking. It is a three minute drive. When we say something's right down this street. Take pictures, take. You know what I mean? Like Southerners, we will say take so and so if you want to talk about going far. But yeah, based on where you are, right down the street, it's kind of rough. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And I don't know why I said that anyways. Oh, so this guy, I mean, would

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you ever join me for my TikTok debates live?

[Monet X Change]

I would do it. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got, I got banana again. Again.

[Monet X Change]

That's because you probably, probably being wild on there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, this girl, this guy came into the room, I was talking about sis. And my screen said, your reason for not liking sis is stupid. That was what my screen said. And this guy came in and he goes, okay, well, let me ask you a question. Would it be okay for me to call you the N word? And we all went. And I said, do you think the N word is the same as sis? He was like, no, but I'm just saying, like, I'm asking if you want to be called the N word because that's what you are. And I said, excuse me. He goes, well, I mean, you're black. What I'm saying is you're black. And I was like, no, that's not. What you said was, well, that's what you are. You low key called me the N word on this live. And then I think that. The N word talking. Then we start talking about the word faggot, and it kind of just all. And then next thing I know, I was suspended, and I couldn't go live with anyone for seven days.

[Monet X Change]

I can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So to all my people out there who love my TikTok lives, I will be back on the 30th. I don't know what time y' all listen to this, but that's when I'll be back.

[Monet X Change]

And, yeah, so it's hard at first, and I think that at first, because that bitch. That could be something that could, like, make you be like, all right, I just can't do this. I'm out in the first couple of months, weeks, whatever it is. So I think that you have to. I think you have to be like, here's what I would do. I would, like, make it very clear about that. Oral hygiene is something that is. That is important to me. This something I have done with someone. We didn't end up dating for a long time, but something I did talk to, like, very, like, be like, I just love. I just love fresh pits. I love. I love. I love fresh breath. Like, that really gets me going. I love, like. I love brushing my tongue. I love brushing my teeth. I fucking. I do all the things because, like, breath, honestly, like, it really, like, that can really, like, take me out. And then maybe that might lead into a conversation about breath. And you can be like, you know, something, I think, just making your intentions or, like, what you like about that thing very clear. That may give them, like, a signal like, how am I doing? And they may check on that more. But at the beginning, it's hard, especially if you don't like confrontation. I identify with that. I don't want to be the one to be like, I'm not a confrontational person either. Bob knows it. I'm not confrontational, and I will suffer in silence for something. And that is a way to kind of circumvent that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah. You know? But also, I think that what Monet and I normally give is the same advice to everything, and I'm gonna give a little bit of it here. I think that what would actually be best is full transparency and open honesty. If you just sit down and say, I really like being with you. You are so funny. You are so sexy. I feel good about myself when I'm with you. My friends like you, and I could really see myself being with you. And they'll go, thank you. And then you'll say, I do want to mention something. I've noticed that sometimes I think you have halitosis. And sometimes it makes it a little hard.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jesus. Okay, let's do it. Monet, you ready? Hey, baby. Hey. Welcome home, baby.

[Listener Caller 4]

Hey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hey.

[Monet X Change]

What's up? How you doing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm great. How was work today?

[Monet X Change]

Good girl. My shift leader was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Good to see you.

[Listener Caller 1]

Welcome home.

[Listener Caller 2]

Hi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's going for?

[Monet X Change]

Why you?

[Listener Caller 3]

Why you?

[Monet X Change]

What's wrong?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love being with you. I love being with you. I have so much fun with you. You're so beautiful, by the way.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, this is weird.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's weird that I think you're beautiful. I think you're beautiful, baby. And I feel beautiful when I'm with you.

[Monet X Change]

I'm greeting me like this, so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, you're right. There is something on my mind and I want to bring it up to you. Okay. You know how much I love being with you. And I introduced you to my mom. She thinks you're hilarious.

[Monet X Change]

I love your mom. She's very funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And my cousin cannot get over that joke you made about the pigs and

[Monet X Change]

the barbecue and the pulled pork.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't believe you made that up on the spot. That was so funny.

[Monet X Change]

I know, I know, I know.

[Listener Caller 1]

It's good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think that something. We're. That. Not we. Sorry. I have noticed it's like, we. No, no, no. I'm sorry, baby. It's just me. It's just. This isn't me. I misspoke. I misspoke. I've noticed that sometimes when I'm talking to you, especially in close seminar, I think that you may have, like, you have a little bit of halito. Like, sometimes your breath is bad, and I don't know if it's because maybe if it's because you're not. Maybe you're not flossing. Do you floss?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I floss every day. I have halitosis.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sometimes your breath doesn't smell. Sometimes your breath smells offensive.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, bitch, sometimes your pussy offends me. How about that? How do you like those apples? It's in persistence of being real and honest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. What do you mean, it offends you?

[Monet X Change]

It offends me because you don't wash good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I try to clean. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. You know, I. Sometimes I go to the gym and I work out and I don't have time to come home and shower immediately, but I will make sure I try to make it a priority to take care of that. Is there a certain scent that you like rain. Like, is that a brand or you want the actual stuff that falls.

[Monet X Change]

The precipitation, Summer's eve rain. I want your pussy to smell like rain.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. You know, I don't use douches because they are. They can be dangerous. But I can work on something for you.

[Monet X Change]

And you know what? And also, you be eating the bed too. And I don't like that either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you mean, eating the. Eating. I'm sorry, what'd you say?

[Monet X Change]

You'd be eating the bed and I don't like that either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you mean, eating in the bed?

[Monet X Change]

You be eating the bed. I have to put up what you eat in the bed. I don't like eating the bed. You be eating the bed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, you know, eating in the. I can stop eating in the bed. That I can do. I want to point out for you, the thing about you is that sometimes before you wake up in the morning, I have to go and do my hair and judge myself. While you're sleeping. So what about that?

[Monet X Change]

So it's my fault that you have to do that. I didn't tell you to do that. You're doing that of your own fruition.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't. That's a valid point. I'm glad someone mentioned that because that makes a lot of. That makes the most sense and scene, you know, I think that the partner that I had in the scene was very confrontational and a little problematic.

[Monet X Change]

That might happen. That might be what you're faced with, baby. But. Yeah, but Bob, what you're saying, like confronting the person and telling them about the. That feels. Do you would give that advice? I felt uncomfortable. I would not be able to do that. That feels so wild. I would not be able to do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you gonna sit around with some stank breath nigga for the rest of your life?

[Monet X Change]

Well, I would be like. I would do the thing and I'd be like, ugh. I just. And I mean, there is a point where it would be unbearable and I would have to address it. But I would try first, like giving like, signals like, hey, like, this is the thing that I really prioritize. And that's very important to me. Before being like, nigga, your breasts stank.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I didn't say that.

[Monet X Change]

I said you diagnosed them. You said, bitch, you have a medical condition.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said, I think you might. You're wild. Let's do some more advice, Jacob.

[Listener Caller 4]

Hi, Bob and Monet, first off, thank you so much for everything that you do for all of us. You've made such a significant difference in my life, and I know we all appreciate it so much. Second, I am going to dragcon for the first time this year, and I was wondering if you had any advice. I don't think either of you will be there, and I totally understand. I would have loved to see you by March, but. Yeah, I just wanted to see. I bought a VIP ticket, but I'm wondering if there's anything else I should do or advice waiting in lines, what should I bring, etc. Thank you so much and I love you both so much.

[Monet X Change]

DragCon. The last DragCon Bob and I did, this was the last one we both did, period. Not just together, but was Dragcon UK 2020. That was the infamous Simmering Riverly sign.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was where we got sick. Like, first of all, you need to. It's your turn.

[Listener Caller 1]

Go ahead, Monet.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I would say this. A few things. Number one, when you go to hug the queens, especially nowadays, I'm sure a lot of girls are gonna have these long human hair wigs on. These long human hair wigs. And when you go, there's always a tendency to try to put your. If you're. I don't know how tall you are, but. But even if you are short or tall, the queens are going to try their best. Most of them who've done this before will try to guide you so that they put their hand over yours so that you're not dragging their hair down. Be mindful of where you are hugging the queens. I cannot tell you how many times if I had long braids or my dreads or whatever, and people go to hug me for the picture, and they are pulling my wig as we're doing the picture. And then the queen is trying to, like, maintain, you know, posture and to smile for the poster. But you're pulling my hair back. And by the 200th person, it's like, you're like, oh, my God, my wig is gonna fly off my head. Right? So be mindful of that. I would say another thing, too, is it is okay to talk to queens about life experiences and how they have gotten you through a lot of things. But I think there is. You should be a little cautious. Trauma dumping it is because it can. Cause you meet a lot of people at DragCon, right? And when you hear a lot of these stories and a lot of the things it could really, really, really, you know, because we're trying to be happy and trying to be, you know, spread the good cheer to everyone coming over to see us. And if everyone is trauma dumping, it gets to Be really heavy, and it puts the queen in a very sad or depressive state. So I would say be mindful of trauma, dumping too much on the girls you're meeting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I want to take that advice to the extreme. Do not hug the queens. I do not allow people at dragcon to touch me in any capacity. And I do not like. I do not do hugs, because you're gonna get sick. You're gonna get us sick. Like, DragCon is the perfect place to get sick. I've gotten sick at every DragCon I've ever done, and I don't even allow people to touch me. And I've gone through. Anyone who's ever been on my line knows that you get hand sanitizer. This is pre pandemic. You get a hand sanitizer and you're told before you get there, do not touch Bob the Drag Queen. Do not touch Bob the Drag Queen. We can talk, we can chat, but we're not going to be. I'm trying not to share any germs. Keeping our contact little, and I still end up getting sick. That person you're hugging is literally hugging hundreds of people, and then you're hugging another person who's hugging hundreds of people, and then you're hugging the hundreds of people who've hugged those people. Also, bring flats. I know you want to look stunning, and you do.

[Monet X Change]

You really do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Stunning. Bring flat. Don't be a hero. Put your picture. Put your shoes on for pictures. Put your shoes on for when you get to. When you get in line for little moments, for Instagram stuff. I know, I know flats can kill a look. Maybe get a look that works with flats. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, good idea.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I think that you should try to go to some of your favorite. Queens will probably have schedules. I'm not saying that I started this trend, but I think I may have started the trend of pinning your schedule to your Instagram story. On the day of DragCon, I had a graphic of me that was, like, in theme of my booth that year. And then I posted my schedule of where I was gonna be at DragCon so that you don't have to do any guessing, popping in to see if I'm there. And I was very strict about sticking to my schedule because we're doing panels, but we're also doing shows. We're doing a lot of stuff. So if you want to catch me up during Drag Hunt weekend, you can see at my booth at these hours, at a panel, at this hour or after Drag Hunt, I'm at a show at the Ace Hotel or something. So check your favorite schedules, your queen's Instagram, and see if they're posting their DragCon schedules as pinned or either pinned on their, their Instagram profile or in their stories. That's a really great tool that I use. Yeah, Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. Drink water, Drink water. Drink a lot of water and try

[Monet X Change]

to see as many girls as you want to. Or honestly do what you want. If there's someone you really want to see. Bitch, stand in. Stand in that line. I know people, they have paid people to stand in line for them. There will be people who literally go to dragcon because they are trying to make some coins so you can pay them to stand in different lines for you so that you don't lose your place in line. If you really want to see someone, but you want to see someone else,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you can also buddy system and stagger it. So let's say you want to see me and Monet. And me and Monet are usually very close to each other. So the one time Miss Fame was trying to come was kind of wedge herself in between us.

[Monet X Change]

Fain she was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What you can do is you can be in your friend's group and then like 30 minutes to 40 minutes later, you start Monet's group. So you come to my group and your friend starts Monet's group. And then you need like three people to do this. So then the other person runs over and in time for the Monet picture. And then by the time that's done, you join your friend in the other line so that you're like, you're basically in two lines at once. That's what I. That's something I would do. I've never seen anyone do that, but it kind of makes sense. And yeah, that kind of makes sense to me. You ever got into an argument with the fan and DragCon?

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't think I have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got into one argument one time. I'm kind of embarrassed. It's say what it was about and who it was, but it was. It was someone I didn't realize, but tell me. I'm gonna say that we can decide if this needs to be taken from. Taken out of the podcast.

[Listener Caller 1]

Okay. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So it was Mother's Day. It was my first DragCon and it was this like able bodied person and they were with a person in a wheelchair. And they came up to me and they said, can we, can we, can I, can we cut your line? He's in a wheelchair. And I said, I Said, no. And he was like, he's in a wheelchair. And I was like. And I looked at him, and I said, well, just to be clear, there are two other people in line right now who are also in wheelchairs. It's fully Mother's Day, and I was doing a thing where all moms get to get to. I did it at a discount on merch for moms. That's why I mentioned that.

[Listener Caller 1]

All right. Remember?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I was like, I'm not going to let you cut me. Cut in line. You don't have to stand. I'm not going to make you stand up and stand in line in some form of discomfort, but there are people in wheelchairs in the line, and it feels inappropriate for you to cut in the line. Is that wrong?

[Listener Caller 5]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

No, I think that's wrong at all. That's not wrong at all? No, I don't think so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Problematic for me to mention it.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think it's problematic for you to mention it. I think that. I think that would have been a. That would have been rude to the people who have been standing in line who.

[Listener Caller 1]

Who are.

[Monet X Change]

Who are in wheelchairs, and, like, they have the same experience. You know what I mean? And I think that. I don't think that's rude to mention it. And every time I've had dragcon, we've had people stand in the line or be in line who are in wheelchairs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this one guy and one of the guys in a wheelchair, because the guy was like, you're gonna make him in line. And then the guy in the wheelchair said, one of the guys in the wheelchair was like, we're sitting down. It was like this whole thing.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was a whole thing. It was like a whole thing. So then the guy was. So then guys started kind of, like, making. Making a scene because a lot of other girls were letting him cut in line because it was like a guy in a wheelchair with, like, two or three people, and they were like, come on, he's in a wheelchair. We need to break a line gag.

[Monet X Change]

And. Yeah, no, I don't think that's shady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, we have time for maybe, like, two more.

[Listener Caller 2]

Hi, Bob and Monet and Jacob. I hope you guys are all doing well. My name is Renz, and I live in New York City. I'm 28 years old, and my pronouns are he, him. So my question for you is career related. I'm an attorney at a large international law firm, and my practice is in finance law. And while I don't mind the work. I've recently started taking on pro bono cases in my spare time, and I realized that I'm much more passionate about my pro bono cases than my finance projects. So I've done work helping transgender immigrants apply for asylum and helping ex convicts get their record seal. Basically, a lot of social justice causes that affect the LGBTQ community and people of color to communities that I myself am a part of. My only issue is that since graduating from law school, I'd say I've become accustomed to my current lifestyle, particularly my salary. I live by myself in Hell's Kitchen, and I like going out to eat at restaurants, going to bars, traveling, seeing shows, and it just seems impossible taking a pay cut right now. So my question for you guys is if I should maintain my current career path and lifestyle and just work on pro bono cases in my spare time, or should I sacrifice my lifestyle for a career that's more meaningful and that I'm more passionate about? Thank you guys so much. Bye.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what's it gonna be? Hell's Kitchen, Esquire? Your morals or your laurels, honey? What's it gonna be? Is it gonna be you doing pro bono or you buying some bomo? What's it gonna be? No, kid, no. Okay, that is a valid point. I think that you have to find a balance, right? We live in a capitalist society, and you really don't get to opt out of it. That's not how capitalism works. You don't get to opt out of capitalism. You know what I mean? So it seems like what. What you're going to have to do is maybe find. Maybe there's a way where you can find. Do, like, a certain number of

[Listener Caller 1]

pro

[Bob the Drag Queen]

bono gigs, as long as they're not, like, getting into your finance work, which I've heard. A lawyer once told me that, like, tax law is, like, the worst gig you can have. They were like, it is just the. Like, everyone thinks that all lawyers are in these streets talking about some, I object, and this. And the other, like, no. They're like, when it comes to tax law, this is the most boo, snooze fest, boring you could ever get involved with. But that's also. Also subjective. But, yeah, I mean, but also, like, how much those comforts mean to you versus the satisfaction you get, the joy you get from knowing that you've helped a person who would not be able to afford your work otherwise. You know what I mean? Because I'm not. If every lawyer decides to not do pro bono work, that'd be an issue. But Maybe if you just do it in seasons, maybe you just do. Maybe every summer you do some pro bono work. Maybe what you do is you cram in all your finance work in the other three seasons, and then every summer you spend that money traveling and enjoying your life and also doing a little bit of pro bono work for people who can't afford it. That's a suggestion that maybe I have for you.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I think that you spent all this money, time, effort, to go to law school, and you did the work, and you deserve to reap the benefits and rewards of that in this career and this lifestyle that you built for yourself. And I think that if you let go of all of that and only do pro bono work, I think that. That. I mean, I don't know you, but for me, it would maybe start to build up some resentments in me. And I would, like, as I'm, like, sitting here, like, you know, can't afford to do the things that I once used to do or the lifestyle I used to live or the place I used to live, because I'm only doing pro bono work, that would definitely build resentments for me, and I would not have a good time doing that work. So I think that. I think Bob has a good point in balance. I think finding some nice balance in it, maybe you'd set, like, a number for yourself. If you do this many of cases, you'll do this many pro bono ones because you worked out how that makes sense for you with your time. And I think that that's a good way to do it. You're doing both right now, and I think that's great. I would not just chop your finance for. What's wrong with you?

[Listener Caller 2]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is my head crooked? I'm freaking out. Is. It's good. It's tilted.

[Monet X Change]

You know what, Bob? I think your head is beautiful. I think that. I think that your hair looks very beautiful. You have a great head.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The reason why I said, like, I was looking at my head and I was thinking to myself, my head is so very symmetrical.

[Monet X Change]

So symmetrical. It's wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was looking at my head like this shit is. My head is. I could cry. It's so symmetrical.

[Monet X Change]

You have a very symmetrical head. Thank you for rubbing it in, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, your head wasn't crooked. Your head is never crooked.

[Monet X Change]

My head is lopsided. It's fine. It's fine. People have said it on TikTok before. It's fine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? Monet, don't. Those are probably people who are joking from you saying, no, it was before

[Monet X Change]

that

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've looked at your head, I've shaved your head, I've rubbed makeup off your head, I've massaged your head. I've. I don't want to invalidate your feelings about your head. I mean, Moni, your head is very. And from what I hear, your head is great and a little toothy, but it's great.

[Monet X Change]

Big toothy. Honestly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. You got some fucking dick scrapers.

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't. No, I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Them dick scrapers. Grow them.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. I would say balance is good. Do a lot, do your work, but also find a good balance to do the pro bono work. Because I'm sure the people you are helping out are probably gagged that they have such a great lawyer helping them, assisting them and giving them some, you know, helping them win cases that they thought that they could never. Because you're lending a helping hand.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I also have great. I have big teeth, but I have a big mouth. So I. When I say my head is not too th. Like you would. Even though my teeth are huge, it's like, I don't even have teeth when I be doing what I do.

[Monet X Change]

Bail.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't do that. I'm not one of those.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it's just.

[Monet X Change]

You see, it's a very.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How big? How wide my mouth opens? You've seen it when I'm like, is

[Monet X Change]

that me or is that Bob?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What I do?

[Listener Caller 1]

What I do.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you were frozen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I think it was you. Oh, yeah, that was you. It's giving you.

[Monet X Change]

You know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And on that note, since Monday's WI Fi is as frank and I want

[Monet X Change]

to say this, I was like, I do variation. I do. I don't do that. Sometimes I do do that. The only thing I don't do is the dick and the side of the mouth. I just. I don't understand that. And it's not something I want to participate in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. So I don't know where you and Andy are yet, but are you prepared to grab one of our listeners and do our head competition?

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because this. We can put this to bed today, honey. We will document it. We will fly, we will enter. We will do a pre interview. We will fly them to LA and to New York City, baby. This is gonna be. Should we have a dick sucking competition? Okay, so you can't compete me in front of people. We'll take one person and we'll travel them around. This is a great idea. Comment below. Do you guys want me and a couple of drag queen girls to do a dick sucking competition. We all interview the person and then have that person just talk about their experience.

[Monet X Change]

You are wild, Bob. You're wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you tune into that?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, maybe on Onlyfans. Son of Onlyfans who don't dare.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you don't get to see anyone getting their dick suck.

[Monet X Change]

It's just a. I know, but just. But I think you'll get a lot of engagement if you did this whole thing. Not the videos of the dick sucking, but just the discussion. And the thing about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On Onlyfans, we do it on Patreon. We have a Patreon. This is great. Okay, we want to host the dick sucking competition. Who do you all want to see in? I feel like. I think Layla would do it. I think Willem would do it, I think. Who else would do it? Probably Kimchi. You think Kimchi would do it? Kimchi doesn't seem prudish, but she's not like that open about her ex life in my experience.

[Monet X Change]

Do you think Trixie would do it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no.

[Monet X Change]

Katya would for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe Katya's rotted. If you all want to see a dick side cover, just let us know and we will get it popping. All right, have a good day, everyone.

[Monet X Change]

By.