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Bob the Drag Queen
Hey, it's me, Bob the Drag Queen. If you want to hang out with me between Christmas and the new year, I will be in Atlanta, Georgia, my hometown, on December 30th performing with the Atlanta Symphony. Monet wishes. Wishes. First of all, every symphony, every orchestral
Monet X Change
and symphony gig you're getting. I wonder why by proxy of me, honey, know that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Go to go to seethedragqueen.com to see a real orchestral magician.
Monet X Change
Hey, y', all, it's me, Monet. Here I am coming to the New York comedy festival on November 9th and 10th. I'll be performing a bunch of shows for the festival. So go to monexchange.com to get your tickets. Or just Google New York Comedy Festival and Monet and you'll see the tickets there. I'm excited to see y'.
Bob the Drag Queen
All.
Monet X Change
And there are low, low tickets, limited tickets available. And y' all know me. I love a sellout. So sell me the motherfucking shit out, Perry. You sold.
Bob the Drag Queen
You sold out years ago, honey.
Monet X Change
Goodbye. You know you're about to sing.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm taking freedom putting it in my car
Caller 1
Living my life like it's golden Living my life like Living my life
Bob the Drag Queen
like it's golden Living my life like
Monet X Change
it's golden Jill Scott.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, that's Jill Scott song. Her.
Monet X Change
Were you a Macy Gray fan?
Bob the Drag Queen
Is she the Queen of Philly? No, Patty's Queen of Philly.
Monet X Change
But Jill Scott is like the.
Bob the Drag Queen
Patti LaBelle is the queen. Patti LaBelle is a queen of Philly.
Monet X Change
I know, but I would say Jill Scott is probably like the Queen consort,
Bob the Drag Queen
the second in command of Philly or something.
Monet X Change
Yeah, people just.
Bob the Drag Queen
Patty still lives in Philly, too.
Monet X Change
Yeah, she had the big old house.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
I have to. Oh, God, I should have told you this. Remember? I have to tell you about where I went last night. Offline after this. I have to tell you about where I went last night.
Bob the Drag Queen
Sorry to the listeners because I can't
Monet X Change
say it out loud. Not. It's not like a super. It's not a super secret project. I don't want to shade the person.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. Yeah.
Monet X Change
I love this road wig, by the way. I want one.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, it's hair, not a wig.
Monet X Change
How dare you.
Bob the Drag Queen
I wear this everywhere. I wear this at the airport. I wear this everywhere.
Monet X Change
Mama drinking his flat tummy tea. Honey, look at that hair. Make his hair grow.
Bob the Drag Queen
I got the new miracle growth. Cha cha cha Chia. How have you been?
Monet X Change
I've been very well. You know, I haven't spoken to you for a few days, and I've been keeping up with you through TikTok videos of your. Of the show that you so gracefully let Madonna do with you. And it looks so fun. I can't wait to see
Bob the Drag Queen
is fun. It is a very exciting and fun show. You know, I have been. I have been. As you know, I live on TikTok and I lean left. So obviously my algorithm is pretty much exclusively Israel Palestine content. So my head's been in a really, really strange space lately.
Monet X Change
Yeah, you and I had a convo about it.
Bob the Drag Queen
So just kind of like, what am I doing? Like. Like what I know, because you don't really know what. Well, I think it's one of the things where I think. Where everyone in the world does kind of feel helpless because, like, what. What can.
Monet X Change
Besides. Besides sending. Doing the obvious, like sending aid, which I'm sure a lot of us have done. But it's like, you know, then you see things like all the money that we sent for aid is not being let into the place where we send the money for. So it's like, now what is the next step from there to try to help? You know what I mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
I think that a lot of the calls to actions are reposting and not censoring our voices.
Monet X Change
Like which you. Which was a very good point.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was thinking I'm not censoring my. I repost other people instead of being like, I'm gonna talk. You know what I mean?
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, you and I are famously and constantly misinformed and giving wrong information all the time. So.
Monet X Change
Right. It's different.
Bob the Drag Queen
Instead of me trying to do a think piece on it. I'm just sharing voices of people who are there.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Especially people who are there.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Or who have family members who are there and. But also having to like, live my life, like, also, like going to work and. And then, you know, what else is going on is it's also brought light to a lot of other things in the world. And then you kind of just think about the fact that this stuff is like kind of always happening. And then I think about what's going on in the Congo, specifically.
Monet X Change
The Congo. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Brought light to. So my algorithm is all Congo and Palestine. And then I guess I had some shame around not knowing what was happening in the Congo until recently. And it's been going on since the 90s and it has claimed 6 million lives. And it's really brutal. And. But all. And I shared a story of this one Congolese woman who was like. She was like. I kind of just had to just. I don't know. She was basically like. She. She didn't use word, disassociate, but she was just like. She just. She was like. I think at some point I just
Monet X Change
gave up and anyone cared or that any. Or there would be help or there would be this mass. This, like, this, like global help and aid for her situation.
Bob the Drag Queen
But the crazy thing is that even when there is global outcry, what is happens.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because I think that I'm not a politician. So take this with a grain of salt. I don't even know if this is how politics work or not. That's why I always say I would never be a politician. But support for Israel is bipartisan. This is like every. Not every. Practically every politician in America does. No matter what area you're in. And there's pretty much nothing you can do to.
Monet X Change
Especially through all. Most of the news, like pretty much every news cycle. Besides things like the Young Turks, they're all. It is. It is that. It is.
Bob the Drag Queen
So there's nothing you can do to get you. I don't think there is anything that you can do to get your. Whoever you're a constituent of to do anything because they unilaterally support. And so I just don't know what there is to do.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Which. Which I guess you just feel helpless. So, I mean, so I've been kind of just melancholic. I don't know if melancholy is a word, but just. I don't know what's. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what to feel or to do while also doing. Also Doing shows as well. Yeah, it's kind of. It's kind of. It's kind of a crazy feeling.
Monet X Change
It is, it is, it is. It's been a lot of that. A lot of those feelings, a lot of those emotions.
Bob the Drag Queen
And.
Monet X Change
And I will say, like, on a lighter note, it will be that. And then my feed.
Bob the Drag Queen
Twitter.
Monet X Change
I haven't really been on Twitter.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, wait, Sorry, Mo. You broke up for a second. Sorry, can you say that again? You broke up for me.
Monet X Change
I said my TikTok in Rios. I said, on a lighter note has been all Israel, Palestine stuff. And Cheesecake Factory. It's this great Cheesecake Factory about taking someone to Cheesecake Factory on the first day. Have you not seen this?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, no, I've seen. I saw the Cheesecake Factory. I did see the Cheesecake Factory date.
Monet X Change
It is.
Bob the Drag Queen
And, well, I also heard that the Cheesecake Factory lady was also just doing it to promote a podcast. I don't know if that's true, but, like, after she did this whole Cheesecake Factory sign, she was like, oh, and go listen to my podcast.
Monet X Change
Oh, God. Everything is. There's so many things like that lately. Like, I've been. I've been really. I've been seeing a lot. Not a lot, but a few times where I'm seeing these, like, viral videos about some situation that happens, and there's a whole TikTok about it. And come to find out, sometimes these are fully actors. I mean, sometimes the acting is so egregious, you're like. But sometimes the ones that I've been duped by, I come to find out later that they were people just doing a bit or doing, like, a little skit.
Bob the Drag Queen
And last thing that's on my algorithm right now is that Keith Lee is in Atlanta.
Monet X Change
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Every Atlanta restaurant is, like, on their tippy toes. So, anyway, so if I move it out of it today, if I'm a little zoned out today, go ahead.
Monet X Change
Now that he's the new Gordon Ramsay, they're like, keith is coming. They need to give Keith a show.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would say if Gordon Ramsay comes to town, people don't get scared. This is. This is scarier than Gordon Ramsay. This is. This is like Spider man when this is like Batman and people are committing crimes. Like, if you have bad customer service, Keith Lee might find out, because I don't think people are afraid that Gordon Ramsey will come to your restaurant. You have to. Like, Gordon Ramsay doesn't just go to restaurants and just randomly say what he thinks.
Monet X Change
That was the second show he had the one where he was invited and they had one, he would just pop up on it. And of course, we know tv, these are people.
Bob the Drag Queen
But Keith Lee is literally just going places. They don't even know if he's coming or not. This is like, I would say this is like Batman just pops up and randomly is like, if he hears crime, he gets you. Hold on one second.
Monet X Change
So Keith Lee is a very, very, very famous tiktoker who has made a very big platform, uses his platform and has a very big following of him going to restaurants and, and, and, and honestly reviewing the food as an everyday patron, like you and I. And like, he has like made he like turn restaurants over. Like they were like on the brink of shutting down. Keith Lee Kane gave a glory review. And these motherfuckers went up and up and up and up. So Keith Lee has a lot of influence in the restaurant community. Like he can like shut up his. I don't know if he's shut any down. He can absolutely make your business glow and rave and people come and come and buy your food.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, one of the controversy. There's a company, there's a restaurant called the Real Milk and Honey in Atlanta, and there's a restaurant called Milk and Honey. And the restaurant called Milk and Honey has been getting 1 star reviews. Death threats.
Monet X Change
He's been getting them too.
Bob the Drag Queen
All because. All because Keith Lee gave them a. A bad customer service review.
Monet X Change
Wait, the restaurant is getting bomb threats?
Bob the Drag Queen
Death threats, like to like, okay, I'll come kill you. I don't know. You know, I mean, I mean, I, I've gotten death threats too. Sometimes they're just kind of like, I'll kill you. They're just kind of like vague. I mean, you should take them seriously, to be clear. But you've gotten a death threat before, I'm sure.
Monet X Change
Oh, girl, I've gotten many death threats, but sometimes I'm like. From the tone of your death threat, I can tell you not really about it. They're like, you should go kill yourself. I'm like, you bitch. You don't even have the power to come do it.
Bob the Drag Queen
You want to death threat. I don't think you should kill your. I would not consider you should kill yourself a death threat.
Monet X Change
I think it's a death threat. You don't know where I am emotionally. If I am going through something mentally and you tell me I should go kill myself, that could be a death threat to me to make me go do it to myself.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I guess then, then I guess that'll be your interpretation. Of it. And anyway, so that's what's going on in Atlanta. So all that to say, if you guys have noticed that. Bob, first of all, everyone always thinks that I'm disinterested. That's just my face. People. I am very interested in things that people are saying around me. I just haven't. There's, like, a lot something I have to actively be thinking about all the time. Specifically, when I go to see someone's drag show, there's always a clip of the drag queen performing. And then it cuts over to me and it's like. And then someone tags me and goes, bob hated this show. And I'm like, I really did not. That just always happens to you all the time. It's like a clip of the drag queen, and then it cuts to me, and then it's me being like, yeah.
Monet X Change
Give Madonna that same energy. Give Madonna that same energy.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is how I watch everything. This is how I watched Lizzo. This is how I watched. I went to go see Madonna at Rebel Heart. I'm not.
Monet X Change
No, I saw the pictures. You was like, that was you.
Bob the Drag Queen
When I'm on stage. You mean when I'm on stage performing?
Monet X Change
No, when you was watching Madonna when she was performing.
Bob the Drag Queen
You've never seen a clip of me watching Madonna performing.
Monet X Change
There is a clip in the show when Madonna's doing a thing and you watching her.
Bob the Drag Queen
You was like, I'm on stage.
Monet X Change
I'm just saying it's what I saw.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also. Also. What is that clip? What's happening in that clip? I don't know if there's any part where John's performing. I'm just on stage just watching. When does that happen?
Monet X Change
It's when Madonna is judging is when you're. When the ball is happening and she's having out her. And you're.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh.
Monet X Change
And you're emceeing. And you're emceeing the thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, so am I just standing there or am I emceeing? Which one is it? Am I just going or am I emceeing? Which one is it? I'm confused. Which one is it?
Monet X Change
This is Asad Yakoub. Hey, Assad, you're on the podcast. What's going on, babe?
Caller 1
What?
Monet X Change
You're on the podcast. Me and Bob. What's going on?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, hi, guys.
Monet X Change
How are you?
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Monet X Change
Just calling to see when you're getting to concert. Oh, I'm leaving here at 12:30. Well, 1 o'.
Caller 2
Clock.
Monet X Change
Okay. I miss you both very much.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love you very much.
Monet X Change
All right, Bill, talk To you later. Bye.
Bob the Drag Queen
But anyway, so obviously you're doing a bit, but, yeah, it happens to me all the time. I watch people performing and people are always taking at plays, at shows, at drag shows. I go to drag shows a lot. There's always a clip of me being like, bob, hated. I'm like, God, this is. I don't know how to express with you guys. This is just my face. This is just how I'm kind of always sitting around and I just don't know what else to tell you besides, that's just my face. And also, in this current moment, there is a lot going on, and I'm like. I just, you know, I'm in one of those moments where I'm like, I don't know what to do in this moment. So, you know, we're all just trying to make it through the day, right?
Monet X Change
Can you send me a link of this afro? They have like a 627. I'd like to buy one.
Bob the Drag Queen
I did an entire YouTube video. And you can go to that video and find the afro.
Caller 2
Oh, my God.
Monet X Change
This sounds like. This sounds like I was trying to hang out with you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Anyway, Jacob, you can ask Kennedy, and Kennedy will send you a link to
Monet X Change
the video with that. Bob, this is similar advisory. So we gonna listen to some folks, some questions, and give them some advice the best we can. And we just do wanna remind you guys that this is for entertainment purposes only. Bob and I dob. Not Dobby. Bob and I are not therapists or we are not licensed to give advice. This is for entertainment. And we're just giving our opinions on the thoughts and feelings of our listeners who have sent us questions.
Bob the Drag Queen
Correct?
Caller 2
Hey, Monet and Bob. My name is Holden. I'm 21 and I identify as a gay cis man. I was recently on Grindr and I got a message from someone that said that they used to be my high school teacher. Now, they didn't tell me which one, but they did send me a body and a penis pic. Looking real good. The issue here is they have a wife, so that's concerning. But also part of me is like, is that really my issue? Because he's gonna hook up with someone else, right? Like, he. I don't know. And then there's also, like, he used to be my teacher. I'm pretty sure I know who it is, but he was my teacher freshman year. And then a different part of me is, if he's the teacher, I think it is he was part of my sexual awakening, just like I was attracted to him. And I didn't know why. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't know I was gay until I was like a junior in high school. So, I mean, that took forever. But what are your thoughts? Do I act on it? The wife is really probably the craziest thing. I think I'm okay personally if something happened, but like, but then again, if he's just gonna do it with someone else, why not do it with me? And also, I'm so touch starved. And I know that he's not gonna kill me looking like that seems good for me. I don't know. What are your thoughts? Sincerely? Oh, step teacher, don't do that.
Monet X Change
Wait, he's starved.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I mean, he would like to be touched by another human being.
Monet X Change
Is that, is that, is that a term people are using now? I'm touched on?
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, I kind of just use context clues on that one.
Monet X Change
I know, but I, but like to just like say that in a sentence. I'm like, I've never heard anyone say that.
Bob the Drag Queen
I believe it is a thing that people say in that moment. In that moment when I heard, I thought to myself, I think I may have heard this. But I was mostly just using context clues to figure out what it meant. But I was like, I think I know what touchscarf means.
Monet X Change
Also, I think sometimes you have more acute hearing. Cause that last episode, that person said, what's her name? Careless. Careless, some name.
Bob the Drag Queen
It actually was Queen Terrius. They responded with like, no, it was Queen Terius. Oh my God.
Monet X Change
So my hearing is more cute.
Bob the Drag Queen
My hearing's not bad, but it's not. I don't think, I don't think my hearing is particularly great. And I mean, do you, do you have it, have you heard anything about your hearing?
Monet X Change
But also, okay, this happens to me. And we're going to get to the question, does this happen to you? Like, sometimes I'm randomly just sitting down, Bob, and like I just hear like a very faint, very, very faint light, high pitched, like in my ear. Does that happen to you? No, that happens to me pretty often. I know somebody might be like, girl, da, da, da. This is happening in my mind again. I know nothing. I haven't webmd it. It's like something with my hearing. Like maybe little pieces of it are going away because I don't know. But like once a month I just hear a very high, very faint and I'm like, oh God. You want to go first?
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, I have a lot of thoughts about this. Let's start with the fact that I Don't think I want to say this loudly and clearly. If you are. If Monet and Andy are in a committed monogamous relationship and I hook up with Andy, I think that Andy's in the wrong, not me. That being said, you have to just kind of be like, in your mind, like, well, I'm enabling and I'm a part in this. That also being said, you don't know what his situation is with his wife. You don't know if he's open. You don't know if they. You don't know if they're fooling around with each other. You don't know if she's going to be there. She might be in the other room. You have no clue. You don't know that. In terms of him being your high school teacher, that is certainly wild. You're not in high school anymore, I'm assuming. So there is certainly a former power dynamic there. And it is certainly interesting. It is certainly interesting because I'm thinking about if, I mean, if I were to hook up with one of my high school teachers when I was like 18, one of my teachers could have been 24. So we'd be six years apart. So it wouldn't be. It really wouldn't be weird for me to be. When I was 17, even if I was 17, they were 28 or 27, we'd be 10 years apart. So right now, would I hook up with a person who was 47? Yes.
Monet X Change
Would you hook up with someone. Oh, sorry, go ahead.
Bob the Drag Queen
Would hook up with someone who's 27? Yes. So. But also, the 47 year old person is more than likely not a former teacher of mine. I've never found myself in this situation before, quite frankly. And I guess it just kind of matters how long you've been out of high school. I don't know how old you are. I do want to say out loud that you're a legal. That you are an adult and you can do whatever you want with other legal adults as long as it's within the confines of the law. So I'm not here to give you a moral judgment on being attracted to older men. I'm not here to pass any judgment on that. But if you're, if this is just all part of some sexual kicks for you, then, like, live your life. It doesn't, it doesn't sound like you're trying to date them. It's not like you're trying to get your sexual kicks off, which is valid. Which is, I think getting your sexual kicks off is completely Valid your teacher sound that your former teacher sounds really messy, though. It sounds like you might be getting yourself involved in some mess. It sounds like you are getting yourself involved in mess.
Monet X Change
I think that a lot to do. What I'm discovering is that some of my married straight friends, they're way more sexually liberal than I realized. And you may think that, oh, they're married, monogamous, he's cheating on her. But they may have a whole situation they've worked out, and he is completely, like, based on whatever agreement he may have with his wife, he's completely in the right to whatever he's doing. And obviously I'm great that he did not act on his sexual proclivities when you were illegal, and now he waited for the time that you were. And I think this sounds hot. I think this sounds fierce. I'd say, bitch, go for it. And if anything happens, if he is operating outside of the confines of his marriage, that's none of your business. That's his business. But you're assuming that he would be cheating for, you know, they have an open marriage or they're polyamorous or whatever their deal is. So I say go for it. Hit it. Quit it if it's whack. Hit it again. Hit it three times. Three times a lady, baby. I say go for it. It sounds hot.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, I don't know if I would be the person someone's cheating with.
Caller 1
Hmm.
Monet X Change
Say it again.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know if I would be the person someone's cheating with willingly. Like, if you and Andy. I wouldn't hook up with Andy. If you two were in a monogamous relationship. I don't know that I would do that even if I didn't know you. Mm. But I have to be honest that I don't really judge people who do. Like, I don't judge you for doing that. I just don't think I would do it. But if you hooking up with a married man who is in a committed relationship and is sleeping around with you, I don't really judge you. And maybe that's messy of me, but
Monet X Change
if it's gonna fuck you up emotionally, I say just pose the question, be like, aren't you married? And see what her response was there. And if you don't like the response with that, be like, morally, you, like, I can't then just did it. But if you, if the response is okay with you, then go for it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Would you? I, I, I knew I have a friend who was him and his high school friends. Wait, wait, Wait, his mom used to have this other group of ladies that they would hang out with and he was in high school at the time. And then like 10 years later, he started dating one of his mom's old friends.
Monet X Change
My God, that's like Larsa Pippen.
Bob the Drag Queen
Who's Larsa Pippen?
Monet X Change
Larsa Pippen is Scottie Pippen's ex wife who's the basketball player for the Magic Bulls.
Bob the Drag Queen
Bitch, you know who that is? It's fucking Jared and Plinkersman.
Monet X Change
Oh yeah, Jerry Pinkenspin. Hear this. Which I was listening to an interview. I kinda wanna read the book. Anyway, Larsa Pippen is Scottie Pippen's ex wife who was, who was a basketball player on the Chicago Bulls when Michael Jordan was on the Chicago Bulls. Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, we all know they were like Kobe and Shaq. They were like, they were like homies, besties. Michael Jordan's son is now dating, is about to get married to Larsa Pippen,
Bob the Drag Queen
who is Scottie Pippen's ex wife.
Monet X Change
Ex wife, yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what, they're adults. They are adults. Pop off.
Monet X Change
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Bob the Drag Queen
relax and let go of whatever you're carrying today.
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Monet X Change
And breathe.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, sorry.
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Monet X Change
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Bob the Drag Queen
1-800-contacts. Who's a celebrity you have a crush on? But. But you're like a fan of too. Like you're like a fan. Well, I'm afraid that not everybody but like you find them attractive. Like you are a, a genuine fan. Like someone like Sza like, someone like that you love that much, Who. Who you're a fan of, who you find attractive. It doesn't be a crush. You're like, oh, they're cute. But. But. But a guy.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I'm looking right now. I had to, like, think. I think. I think all my favorite artists are women.
Bob the Drag Queen
Who's that singer guy that you're. That you're always talking about?
Monet X Change
Avery Wilson's so hot. Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Could you date it. Could you date Avery Wilson? Or do you think that you're. You're a fandom for him?
Caller 2
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
I could get in the way.
Monet X Change
I could date him.
Bob the Drag Queen
But are you a fan of him in the way that you are? It's not like, sza. Like, are you just, like. Are you just like, he can sing or you. Like, I'm a fan of him.
Monet X Change
I think he can really sing, and he doesn't have enough of a discography for me to be, like, a fan. Like, you know, like sza. Well, let me look. Let me look through my difference.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's not the same.
Monet X Change
They are no man.
Bob the Drag Queen
About Michael B. Jordan. Are you a fan of Michael B. Jordan?
Monet X Change
Not really. I like him. I think he's hot. And I'm, like, a fan. Like, I'm gonna go see every movie, you know, literally every.
Bob the Drag Queen
Who's Captain America? Are you a fan of him? Are you a fan of Chris Evans?
Monet X Change
I'm not. Again, I like him. I'm not a fan like that. I can't think of any male that's really hot. I'm a fan of. I think Avery Wilson is probably the closest, to be honest. Wait, why is it not the same?
Bob the Drag Queen
Why isn't that the same as sza? Yeah, because you're, like, a big fan of sza and you're like. And you're like, oh, Avery can sing. And that meant that's cool.
Monet X Change
I'm not. Not a fan of him. I don't know. I have to do. I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do I have any of those? Do I have any of those?
Monet X Change
Like, who are you? Like, who you. Who is. Like, who. Who are you a number one fan of?
Bob the Drag Queen
They're women. Whoopi Goldberg.
Monet X Change
Okay, so who. Are there any males?
Bob the Drag Queen
Wanda Sykes?
Monet X Change
Are there any men?
Bob the Drag Queen
But I'm also attracted to women, too. But. But I don't think that my attraction to Whoopi Goldberg is regarded around anything sexual. You know what I mean? No. I mean, I'm not particularly sexually inclined toward RuPaul. I mean.
Monet X Change
Yeah, right. I don't know if there's any. I Don't feel that way about anyone. I met someone who I also think is very.
Bob the Drag Queen
There are some people who have. Who I'm like, oh, my God, I really love this person's. Sometimes also, like, I tried to, like, slide in DMS of people, but then I just. I just chicken out so hardcore. And then we just end up chatting like girlfriends. And I just.
Monet X Change
I just get to explain this to fucking Andy. I was telling Andy it is a difference. Like, you know, Bob, you know, like, say their name. Jacob is so messy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob.
Monet X Change
I was trying to explain this to Annie. There is a. So guys, as, you know, women on Drag Race, there are guys who, like. Like, who. Who are very attracted to us as queens, but also as guys, too. But there is a difference, Ben. When you meet one of those people out in the world, like, you're out at a gig, right, and you meet them, you can't tell if it's going to be a fan reaction that is sexual or they just really like you because you're a drag queen.
Bob the Drag Queen
Right? Okay, should I say their name? Okay, there's one guy who I. This is. This is too much. Should I give clues or should I say their name?
Monet X Change
What do you think, Monet?
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you think? You just tell me what to do and I'll do that thing.
Monet X Change
Say their name.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, so I sl.
Caller 2
This is.
Bob the Drag Queen
So. This is embarrassing, because you know why it's embarrassing to me? It's embarrassing to say that you're into someone if you. If you don't think they're into you. That's embarrassing, right?
Monet X Change
Or youth or you misconstruing their. Their, like, for you, as a. As a drag queen. As, like, their favorite drag queen with, like. With, like, romantically or sexually. That is embarrassing when you think that this person is, like, really into it. They're like, no, they just really like your wigs and your costume, and they like you saying, soak it up and purse first.
Bob the Drag Queen
This. This. This person is an artist as well. And they. In, like, a singer. And, like, I just like, oh, my God. This. Like, this. They just did a tiny desk. And I was like, oh, my God, this is so.
Caller 1
This.
Bob the Drag Queen
He's just so sexy and so attractive. So I, like, slid into his DMs, Jacob, and we started gabbing, and then I just, like, I just chickened out. I just. Who bitch chickened out? You, probably. I don't know if you know. You know Duran Bernard.
Monet X Change
Of course I know Duran Duran. And I.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I just. And I. Well, we text too, but I just. I was Just like.
Monet X Change
Anyway, hey, well, he probably heard, so
Bob the Drag Queen
I was just like, you know what? I'm not, I'm not about it. I'm not about it. About it.
Monet X Change
He probably done heard. He, he, he, he heard it now. Hey, Duran. Hi, baby.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, the truth is, I'm not about, like, I'm one of those folks who, like, if I. For me to hit on you, I need to know inequivocally that you are attracted to me or else I don't have the confidence to be like, yeah, no guessing.
Monet X Change
No guessing.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, people who, like, just be throwing out stuff and be getting, like, rejected and they don't care. Like, those, dude, those.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I'm not either.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't have. I don't have the mental capacity for that.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not about that. But you, you've had those, you've had those fan interactions, though, with ones where you can't tell if it's like a sexual romantic thing or they just really like your dragon.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I've had those two.
Caller 1
Yeah.
Monet X Change
Or, or the one where they are. Or they are sexually, romantically, but they come over and, baby, the dick is giving.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, they say they get nervous. That happens a lot. Yeah, it's called drag race dick syndrome.
Monet X Change
Drag race dick syndrome, girl. They be like, they cannot get it going.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, that happens a lot.
Monet X Change
Yeah, they get nervous, which is fine.
Bob the Drag Queen
Should we go to our next question? Now that I've embarrassed myself. Now that I've embarrassed myself on blue I Internet, or you may have started a new thing or he probably, like,
Monet X Change
I was into it, too. We don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
Now he's going to be avoid. I mean, I've never even met him before. I'm sweating.
Monet X Change
J. Play this track. Well, that's because you're wearing a wig.
Bob the Drag Queen
Shut the up. You never had that before. Jacob just walked into a life fixture. Yeah, walk into my life.
Caller 2
Sorry.
Monet X Change
We're saying we're staying at a bougie
Bob the Drag Queen
hotel in Barcelona that has, like, hanging
Caller 2
light fixtures at face height.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, you guys in Barcelona? Yes, we're in Barcelona. Yes.
Caller 1
Hi, Bob. Hi, Monet. Now, I need some advice on whether I should get petty or just let something be. Now, I had a breakup with my ex boyfriend in April, which I was very happy about. It was honestly so freeing to leave that relationship. And I had to work with him throughout the summer for his friend's music show. Now we both danced. I planned to choreograph this show, and I had recruited six of my friends to be in it and I knew if I quit I that they were all going to leave and leave them with no one. During the rehearsal process, he did no work for the show and instead spent more time scrutinising the way I work, claiming I was being rude, direct and mean to just him. When I'm the type to tell anyone and everyone if they're off, if they're in the wrong place, if they get the choreography wrong because it's my job as the choreographer. Of course. Now he even alluded to me seeing one of the male dancers who was my long term friend and tried to stop them from hanging out with me and even tried to talk to his friends who are the artists to kick me out the show and saying it was him or it was me. When he started to realize that no one was blindly siding with him, he decided to go on a smear campaign calling me a bully and still had this weird nice guy facade to my face. And I do feel a sense of being pushed into this angry black woman stereotype with those comments because I did nothing but save the show. Now my question is, do I get petty and demand an apology, let it be. Or something else altogether? Because one part of my brain wants to put his head on the curb and one part just wants to listen to J Aiko and, and breathe and act like he doesn't exist. So what do I do?
Monet X Change
You know,
Bob the Drag Queen
is crazy.
Monet X Change
I've had this same experience and we started a podcast together and it's very successful. So my advice, start a podcast together and see what happens.
Bob the Drag Queen
What happens?
Monet X Change
Listen, I mean, I am not even, I was gonna say I'm grateful that, you know, in the industry that I, that I'm in, like I order place in my career. I get to work with, you know, most of the times the people that I want to work with. But I mean, I know that's, that's, that's not everyone's experience and you kind of force me in a situation, but I just having to work with someone that's being so petty and being so annoying with just trying to fucking work and get your fucking paycheck and bounce and go home and do your thing sounds so annoying to me. It's like I don't want to do all this. I just want to, I just want to choreograph the thing, do the shows, go home. Like why do you have to make this, this whole ordeal? I get how fucking annoying that can be. But I think that you gotta like, you gotta let em know what's up, you're like, listen, we have seven more weeks of this, okay? I am not out to get you. And I would just like us to just be at a place where we can just do this job and get done and, like, move on, please. Can we, like, meet at that. And that. There's a lot of maturity that. That takes that. Honestly, I don't even know if I have. I think that I would just.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would. You know, I can speak for it. You don't.
Monet X Change
I would probably.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'll chime in here.
Monet X Change
I would probably result to be petty if I was you. But I'm trying to advise you of a. You sound like. The fact that you're even working this out, it sounds like you're at a mature place that you can attack immaturely as opposed to just jumping to petty. My baseline would be petty. And just to have this annoying situation going for seven weeks just doing tit for tat and by the end just being so annoyed and exhausted at myself because I behave that way. But you sound like you have the emotional bandwidth, the maturity to handle it professionally. Be like, hey, can we just call the truce? Let's just choreograph the thing. I won't try to cut you down. You don't try to cut me down. We can get this done. We never have to hang out or work together. After the seven weeks, can we get to that place? I think that's the best way to go about it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can I just say, Monet, you say stuff like that a lot. But I really. In my experience with you, I don't find that to be true. Like, I. A lot of times you do this thing kind of like my mom, where my mom will act like she used to whoop us, but she really didn't. And you act like you're petty or you're about fighting or you're about arguing, you're about yelling. And you're really not.
Monet X Change
But it's not.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've seen you. I've seen you through a few breakups. I've seen you through some very tumultuous professional relationships. I've seen you in fight people on the Internet. I've seen. But I've seen you often take the moral high road naturally, without several times. But when it's petty, I've seen you get petty. I've seen you get petty a few times. We all get petty a few times. But I don't know that your inclination. Even if your inclination. I don't know that you often take the petty route, I think.
Monet X Change
But my petty is not like going and putting hot sauce in your water. It's like, when I know you want to choreograph this thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's assault. That's poisoning. My petty is not punching you in the face. Okay, we're talking about. We're talking about salt.
Monet X Change
Now. At this point, my petty would be, like, knowing, like, we both had to choreograph this thing. Like, I will, like, make sure, like, I do something that you don't get it. That feels a little. That shady that you didn't know I did. Like, that's the kind of a petty I'm talking about. Not, like, overt, like.
Caller 1
No, that.
Bob the Drag Queen
That is.
Monet X Change
It is. I'm not gonna say my business on this thing, but there have been ways that I behave in a petty way that I'm not proud of. That there wasn't, like, overtly, like, I can't believe Monet did that. But you look around. I was the one that caused you not to have that thing done.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm gagging at the. The conundrum of me defending your character and you trying to tear it down no matter what. Me being like, I just find you to be. You're like, I'm not mature. I'm a mess. I'm a disaster. Like, what's something you've done?
Monet X Change
I'm not going to say the name.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I said names.
Caller 3
You.
Bob the Drag Queen
You told me to say names, that you owe me to say their names. You get back to the original. The original sibling rivalry days. Honey, yours is like admitting a crush.
Monet X Change
I'm about to talk about how I took a gig away from someone that may have needed it because they did something shady to me.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, what. What. What did you. What happened?
Monet X Change
So there was a girl who was Being
Bob the Drag Queen
a girl I was having beef
Monet X Change
with at the time, and we can
Bob the Drag Queen
narrow this down to 40 queens.
Monet X Change
So I was. I happened to be in Australia, and I was on a tour, and they were talking about.
Bob the Drag Queen
Everyone check the calendars.
Monet X Change
I've been to Australia, like, four or five times. No one's gonna know that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, we're narrowing down, baby. We're really narrowing it down now. Now we're down to. Now we're down to 30 queens.
Monet X Change
So I was in Australia at the time, and then they were talking about. Oh, they were talking about building a tour for this next tour coming up next spring. And they were like, oh, we definitely gonna do it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Probably wasn't your solo tour. So we can. We can remove one of the times. Continue. Probably a group tour. Go ahead. We think about her and her and her.
Monet X Change
I Was like, oh, y'. All.
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't y'.
Caller 2
All.
Monet X Change
And again, I did not notice to have all this information on this person. I just didn't like the way that we had interaction and they were being shady. So I was like, oh, don't get her. I heard she's very unprofessional. She's nasty. She's always late. She hates doing meet and greets. And honestly, she's really nice to fans. And I. She did not end up being on that tour. So I think she was taken from that tour because I said something shitty about her.
Bob the Drag Queen
Were those rumors with those really rumors that you heard or was that just stuff you were making up? No.
Monet X Change
A mixed bag. I have heard that she is rude at meet and greets, but I don't think it's true that she's late all the time.
Bob the Drag Queen
But she's. But she's on time to be rude.
Monet X Change
Yeah, she's on time to be rude, but she's.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob said, well, let us her name start with
Monet X Change
so. I think that's petty.
Bob the Drag Queen
That is petty. That is petty. You know, you're right. You're a bad person. Sorry for doing that. I think that I want to ask you a really annoying question. This question is so annoying. But it really is important, guys. It really is important. What's your part in this? I'm not saying this person is not completely guilty. I don't know all the information. I only heard your side. But like, if. If someone calls, you mean, do you have any part in that whatsoever? You know, I get called ornery. And grumpy and I have a part in that. And it's my right to be ornery and it's their right to call me ornery. You know what I mean? So I would just ask that question. But I also do know that breakups are. People become the worst versions of themselves after a breakup or during a breakup. You know, it can take a while to get on the side where you. Where you don't want this person to feel bad about breaking up or just cause them some. You know, there have been times where I want someone to. I don't know that I. I'm sure I have at some point, but typically speaking, I will want someone to feel discomfort and. And sadness and pain, but I don't know that I have the capacity to cause it. I just want that. Like, I just want you to be as sad as I was. Like, if you make me uncomfortable, depending on how you made me uncomfortable, I would just want you to experience something similar or worse. But depending on what it was like, if you yell at me, I can yell back at you. You know what I mean? But if you did something that's completely outside of my moral compass, I don't know that I would have the capacity to do that to you. I'm just like, I just, I just, I do genuinely hope something bad happens to you, but. But I'm not going to do it. I just, I just have the hope deep in my heart. If I was a praying person, I would do. I would. I would say a little prayer for you, as Aretha Franklin says, you know, so. But it sounds like this, for this, this guy is doing more than just hoping. It sounds like he's taking action in spreading rumors about you being unprofessional and hard to work with. I believe that open communication is really important, even when it comes to exes. And I think you should go up into them and be like, hey, what's going on with this? Can we talk about this?
Monet X Change
I mean, most likely, it seems. It sounds like this person is not going to. Is interested in talking. They just wanted to slander your name. That's what it sounds like. But again, maybe they are. Who knows?
Bob the Drag Queen
They're interested in talking about something regarding her, obviously. You know what I mean?
Monet X Change
These, here in these glasses. I can't.
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you mean you can't?
Monet X Change
I love it like a full look.
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you mean you can't?
Monet X Change
I cannot.
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you mean you can't? What do you mean by that?
Monet X Change
Next question.
Bob the Drag Queen
Now I want to explore this. What's your problem with my look?
Monet X Change
I literally. The day you wore, I literally called you and said how much I love it. Now, why you trying to put on for the camera? You know I did that
Bob the Drag Queen
any. Well, no, you're the one putting on for the camera. So I'm, I'm just wondering what is your. You can't. That's what I'm wondering. I'm just asking you to elaborate on your on. You act like I'm said something crazy. You said something. I asked you to elaborate like. You act like I'm the one doing something wild. You commented on my look and then me asking you to elaborate. You act like I'm the one doing something because this is what. This is what I mean by gaslighting everyone. This is what I mean by gaslighting. Hey, Bob and Monet. This is JB reaching out to you guys from Chicago, Illinois, 55 years old
Monet X Change
and just wondering how do you make
Bob the Drag Queen
the decision and deciding between an open relationship and the polyamorous relationship. Any advice you can offer will be great. Thanks. You know, I. I feel like whenever me and Jacob started dating, I was pretty open about wanting to be in an open relationship. And I told Jacob pretty early that I was like, I don't know how much of a one man woman I am or a one woman man I am or whatever the phrase I'm trying to use is. I'm a one man woman, a one horse town kind of growing.
Monet X Change
You know, the same stuff.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know.
Monet X Change
I didn't tell Jacob if I was
Bob the Drag Queen
an old town road or if I was a. Or if I was a partridge in a pear tree. But, you know, and when I did start dating someone else, I was pretty open with Jacob about it pretty upfront. I think I would revise my rollout plan next time, which is what you would say.
Monet X Change
You come out as polyamorous from the beginning.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no. Me and Jacob. I was open about the fact that I could be probably amazed from the beginning, but I would probably revise how I told the world or. I don't think that I honestly, I think that I am past a point in my life where I am, like, announcing, like, doing hard drops. Hard launches. That what they call them.
Monet X Change
Agreed.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think I'm interested in another hard launch.
Monet X Change
Agreed.
Bob the Drag Queen
For all y' all know, I might have five new boyfriends right now and three girlfriends. Y' all have no clue. I think I'm beyond the part of my life where I want to do any hard launches.
Monet X Change
Agreed.
Bob the Drag Queen
Of anyone that I'm dating, because it just doesn't. Someone said, did you hard launch us? I mean, I posted you on. I posted like, this is my boyfriend before.
Monet X Change
But was there a specific day? Because I think that. Because we are. Because we are public figures. If I post my boyfriend on my thing, they're like, oh, it's a Harlem. He's like, no, I'm just sharing a part of my life, and I'm not. The caption is like, okay, guys, here we go. This is me and my boyfriend hour. It's just like, no. I'm, like, trying to live my life and just post one thing I want.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I. In terms, Jacob's asking if I've ever hard launched us before. I. In my. In the entire time that I've.
Monet X Change
That I've hard launched you and Jacob. Not us.
Bob the Drag Queen
You and I. I've only been Me and Jacob. I've only been dating for six years now. And in the six years of dating, I have done one post on International Boyfriend Day. It was Jacob and my ex on the same day. And since then, I have acknowledged that Jacob and I are partners and that me and Ezra were dating. But I. But I. That was the only, like, hard launch I've ever done, that one post on International Boyfriend Day.
Caller 3
And
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think I would ever do that again. I just don't think that speaks to me anymore. And I think that, you know and I know thing now. Many terrible things that I hadn't known before. Do not put your faith in a cape in the hood. They will not protect you the way they should. You know, work.
Monet X Change
Where is that from?
Bob the Drag Queen
Take extra care with strangers. Even flower halves are dangerous. You know, nice is different than good.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Even with my ex.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's from your favorite musical.
Monet X Change
Into the woods, the woods we go. The woods, the woods.
Bob the Drag Queen
The very one.
Monet X Change
My ex and I, we never had a hard launch moment again. I just, like, posted a picture of us doing a thing, like, doing like, I think maybe like one picture we ever posted it with you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Low key. Hard launched him at DragCon. Low key.
Monet X Change
But I didn't even post him on my social media. I didn't. Like, he was around with me, but I didn't post him. And then, so, yeah, I don't again, because I'm a public figure. Like, the things I pick and choose to put on my social media, like, I want to do it. Cause I think it's fun and they're cute. Like, Andy and I posted a Halloween picture because we were. It wasn't like. It wasn't like, I'm like doing the definitive hard launch. This is my boyfriend. No, we had a costume together. So we. And I wanted to share that with everyone, but I don't put stock in that. And as it goes for Oakland and Poly, I think to Bob's point, saying that sooner rather than later is important.
Bob the Drag Queen
Right?
Monet X Change
Because if you're dating someone and they have no idea that you are poly, that you are polyamorous, like, I think that's an important thing that they should know because that will probably dictate if they want to pursue a relationship with you. Same as open. You know, full disclosure, I've had moments when me and my partner, we've been open and sometimes we've been closed for the. For the majority has been closed, but they have times we have open things up.
Bob the Drag Queen
Where are we right now? Fans want to know.
Monet X Change
We're closed. We're monogamous. And we've also had, you know, as a lot of y', all, there was a Whole Reddit thread about it. We went through, we went through.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm screaming no.
Monet X Change
The times that I would talk about it, we were, we were closed. And then so we went through a brief separation, but now we're back together. And I think that that's just how relationships are. Relationships are fucking hard and there's a
Bob the Drag Queen
lot to do, but like Monique's butt cheeks when she's walking, they briefly separate, but they slap back together.
Monet X Change
But to your point, your question, I think that. But again, there's also this dynamic of you discovering that about yourself, Right. You're dating this person and then like three months or four months, five months, a year, whatever you like. I think I want to be open. I think that as soon as you explore those things for yourself and you know that that's really what you want, you owe it to your partner to have the conversation with them because this is someone you're considering maybe for the rest of your life or the rest of the season or the rest of this, whatever it is, you owe that to them to be like, hey, this is where I'm at. And I don't know what that means for us, but I would like it to mean that we will still be together, but emotionally, this is how I really feel and I want to talk to you about that because I want to have open and honest dialogue about how that looks for us, if that looks like for us. If that is an absolutely not for you, that is a deal breaker for you. Like, I think you should know, and I think that you owe it to your partner to have that conversation with them when you feel that that is something that you really want.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. If you think you have proclivities toward, toward being, being in love with more than one person at a time and feeling a strong need to act on that, you really should. You really need to go in being open about that because it could be a real big problem for you down the line in terms of infidelity, because then you'll feel like you need to start sneaking around and you don't want to. You don't want to sneak, you don't want to creep. You don't want to be a creep.
Monet X Change
Oh, I creep. Yeah, I've been creeping on the down low excuse. I'm saying
Bob the Drag Queen
I was singing and nobody else supposed to know. I think that sometimes the difference between being a, a great singer, I knew
Monet X Change
some type of hypothesis on sticking with government, some theory.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think that sometimes what makes you a great singer is just having the audacity to just go for it. But when there's, there's technique and stuff. Okay, but like just having the audacity to go for it because singing is like dancing is kind of silly. And you have to just acknowledge that this is a little silly.
Monet X Change
Elaborate on it. What do you mean it's silly? What do you mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
Like there's nothing silly about someone being like, oh, like it's low key goofy to be like doing all these runs. It's like you kind of. I mean, not to you. Okay, Silly bitch. You don't have to agree that I think a silly bitch. I think it's fucking silly. In my mind it's silly.
Monet X Change
Silly like you laughing at it.
Bob the Drag Queen
In my mind. Sometimes singers singing hard. I think you look kind of stupid when you're like. Got your hand in your ear and you're like doing all this stuff and you're like making these faces that other. Like when other singers are like singing, you're like. Or like the veins that pop in your neck, the shapes you make with your mouth. It's silly to me sometimes like the way like even like the noises Alanis Morissette makes. Sometimes it's like it's just a little silly, but it still sounds good. Does that make sense?
Monet X Change
No, it doesn't.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I mean it doesn't have to
Monet X Change
make sense to you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like even like sometimes, like if you look at like when Jennifer Holiday is singing and I'm telling you it sounds amazing, it looks a little silly. And I feel the same way about dancing. I feel the same way about acting. When I look at these Marvel movies and I can just think about Tom Holland doing all that on the green screen. I'm like, that sounds. That's silly. You're on a green. You're on a green screen. Who's the guy who plays doctor Strange? What's his name?
Monet X Change
Benedict.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's on a green screen going, there's nothing happening.
Monet X Change
Actually, most of the most times it's a blue screen, just so we're clear, but whatever.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's no lightning, there's no dimension.
Monet X Change
He's just going, well, it's all make believe.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know, and it's silly to me. That's just, that's just low key, a little silly. So I think that the thing about singing is if you can just break through how silly you feel and you just have the audacity to look a little silly. Liza does this a lot too. Liza is quite silly, but she's quite remarkable because she just doesn't care whether or not she seems silly when she's doing it. What the thing.
Monet X Change
Does it. What? Does it make sense to me? Because. Just because you're being silly when you're singing doesn't mean you sound good or you're doing a good job.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're not being silly. You look silly.
Monet X Change
I'm saying. But just because you. Okay, sorry. Just because you look silly while you're singing does not mean that you sound good or that you're giving a good product. That's why there's a creation to me.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I agree. It's not like a definite. Like, if this happens, if you look silly, you will sound good. But it is common that people who end up looking. Sounding good, sometimes they either have the audacity to just go for it and just having the audacity to potentially sound ridiculous, look ridiculous, seem ridiculous.
Monet X Change
Jacob said, can you sing the End of Love on top for us? Have the audacity. Go for it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Me or Monet?
Monet X Change
You.
Bob the Drag Queen
Me. Well, I was thinking about a different thing I was going to try saying, and it's when Chris sings that. Anyway, he does it on his. On his. And you don't think you sound a little silly? No, of course you don't. In the end, he's like, but that kind of sounded good because I just went for it like that low key slapped and you know it did.
Monet X Change
I think you have a very warped perception of what?
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, if I was on stage and I was like, someone's gonna come this whole time. Like, what's going on? That low key eight. But I have to just go through how silly I feel doing it.
Monet X Change
Have you seen this clip?
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you think that Loki 8.
Monet X Change
No, I don't.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you're a hater, though. So, like, literally, how would you.
Monet X Change
I honest. Give you my honest assessment Every time you sing. Every time. I don't agree. You're like. Well, you're hating.
Bob the Drag Queen
But you are a hater, though. Like, these are two separate conversations. I've moved on. You're a hater. So can you do it? Can you do the same note? I'm gonna give you my assessment.
Monet X Change
No, I don't. That's not my.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'll play it. I'll play it for you. Oh, don't you worry.
Monet X Change
No, I'm not. I'm not screaming.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, because you're afraid you might look.
Caller 2
What?
Bob the Drag Queen
Silly?
Monet X Change
No.
Caller 3
Oh, wait.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are you saying that what I'm saying might be T, R, U, E? Here it is. Hold on. We're in heaven. I ate that. See, you're not Going in, you're still, still holding back.
Monet X Change
But that is not in my range. I don't scream like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm gonna do it one more time with him. And watch this, watch this. Y' all gonna be like, wow, you kind of ate that. Hold on, hold on. I'm gonna go do with him one more time. I was like three, five steps down from.
Monet X Change
Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna apologize to the headphone wearers right now. Bob is wild, y'.
Orderly Meds Announcer
All.
Bob the Drag Queen
This week, shout out, shout out to everyone where everyone listening on headphones. Shout out to everyone listening who's wearing headphones right now.
Monet X Change
Specifically the AirPods Maxes, because y' all know they're about to come out with the AirPods Max 2. And the ones we got gonna stop working tomorrow.
Bob the Drag Queen
They're gonna be, they're gonna be twice as all the problems you have with the AirPod Max. They're all gonna be fixed. And the thing is, they knew there were problems when they made them because they have to have something to, to lean toward.
Monet X Change
Yeah, for sure. One more question.
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't. Don't rush. Don't rush our listeners. Don't ever rush our listeners.
Monet X Change
Let's find next year too.
Caller 3
Hi, Bob and Monet. My name is Patrick c. From Sterling, Virginia. I'm 19 years old and I'm a really big fan of you guys. My question for both of you is how did you guys deal with being workhorse queens, specifically in your younger years? Bob mentioned in a past few podcasts that he was working at Jesus Chicken. And Monet, I'm curious, where were you working? I'm currently working a part time job and it's not really the best. It's fast food, but it's just to get by, you know, I'm in college, just living my life, but I have to do what I have to do. Do you guys have any tips? And how did you guys get by in your part time jobs? Love you guys. Thank you.
Monet X Change
Not Bob of the. The number one employee over at Jesus Chicken.
Bob the Drag Queen
Honey, I did work at Jesus Chicken. I did.
Monet X Change
So to answer, you can ask two things. I used to work at the Yale. I worked in hotels from college to. Until I stopped. Until I quit doing dragons, until I started doing drag. I worked at hotels like throughout college. I worked the overnight shift 11pm to 7am and did class during the day. I did that four days a week, overnight and working full days. But also I found out something recently which is a genetic mutation in my family. Did I tell you this?
Bob the Drag Queen
Big feet
Monet X Change
Jacob, Shut you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, that was in private. Sorry.
Monet X Change
That was your white ass up. Don't you ever laugh at that joke again.
Caller 3
So.
Monet X Change
So apparently so. I had this thing, and Annie's very, like, confused by it. And sometimes you comment on it too. Like, I really. I can go off of, like, four hours of sleep. And it felt like I had a full night's sleep. Like, I, I don't. I don't require, like, eight hours of sleep. Like, four max. Six is plenty for me. And I feel as fresh as a daisy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Does that run in families?
Monet X Change
Yeah, it runs in my family because
Bob the Drag Queen
me and my family are the same way. Like, my mom does not. I don't care. When I call my mother, she will answer the phone. I do. I'm telling you at any. And she always acts like she wasn't asleep. I wouldn't sleep. You were asleep. And I will. I will just get a few hours sleep and just wake up and be like, I really feel the same as I did, as if I got a full night's sleep. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you.
Monet X Change
My doctor told me it's. It's a genetic thing. And it's like less than, like 8% of the population can do it, can. Can function on that little bit of sleep. It's like, it's like, it's a very rare thing. And then, so, So I was. So I, So, so I was working. I was working at hotels. And let me tell you something. Hotels, how we got into hotels, you don't even really need a lot of experience. You go to any hotel, you go to a Holiday Inn, marry out, whatever, and just apply to be a front desk agent. And once you have some front desk agent experience, you can get a job at a hotel anywhere. And hotels, typically, especially in bigger cities, they're starting you. Well, back in my day, which is now is what now it's 10 years since I've been in hotels. But, like, they started you at 18 an hour back then at. When I worked at the Yale Club, that was the last hotel I worked at. I was at $20 an hour. So, yeah, you can, you can. You can really make a lot of money working in hotels. And it's sometimes above minimum wage most
Bob the Drag Queen
times, you know, I was certainly not working above minimum wage. I. In my workhorse days, which I think I'm still a workhorse. I just don't have, like, I don't do the. I'm just working in my preferred field these days. My workhorse is just a career.
Monet X Change
These Days.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I was at Ruby Tuesday. I was at Chick Fil A, which is. Which I affectionately call Jesus Chicken. I was at Applebee. I was at the Jekyll and Hyde Club. I was at Oliver's in New York City. I was at Lucky Chang's. I was working real estate, doing all this stuff. And if you really want to tell you about how my fucking. How much money was I making pre Drag Race, I worked at ruby Tuesday for $2.13 in an hour. And I would make like 60 to 80 a day in tips, and I would work four days a week. Maybe. Maybe three days a week. Three or four days a week. So I was not making a lot of money. And when I worked at Chick Fil a, I made $5 and 13 cent an hour. And I was working at Chick Fil A, I think, three times a week. So obviously, again, not making a lot of money. And then I was working at Ruby, the Jekyll and High Club in New York City, making about. I don't know, I made like 100 bucks a shift. And I worked like five shifts a week. 150. 150. No, 150 to $200 a shift in New York City. And then at Lucky Chang's, I was working like three nights a week, making about 400 to $500 a shift. So, I mean, I kept making more and more money as I kept going on in life, which I was very lucky to do. And, you know, when I was working those jobs, when I feel like something about wanting to reach your goals, you are kind of trained to. To set your. To publicly announce your. Your goals to be much lower than they are. I used to. I just love performing. So even if I'm performing at a community theater, but working a restaurant job, I'll still be happy. Which, to be honest, probably would have been true. I think that actually probably would have been true because I don't know that I'm. I don't know that I feel happier as a person now than I was before I achieved the things that I've achieved. I think that I kind of have the same level of happiness. Like, I was a happy. I was happy then, and I'm. And I'm still a happy person now, despite my face.
Monet X Change
But think about this, though. But think about this, though, but now that you've.
Bob the Drag Queen
You've.
Monet X Change
You've achieved so many things, like being nominated for Emmys and winning Glad Awards,
Bob the Drag Queen
whereas I've never been nominated for an Emmy. I just like, to be very clear, I've never. I have.
Monet X Change
Oh, you've been on the Emmy award winning show and you won the GLAD Awards and all these things.
Bob the Drag Queen
But like, but and a Pulitzer. Please do not forget that I'm a Pulitzer.
Monet X Change
And then, and then before. But you would have been, you'd have had this, maybe it would have caused discontent and would have caused other feelings that you would never, that you had not been able to try to strive through these things. Whereas now you, you have, you're happy and you have content because you know that you have been in spaces to try to achieve those goals. Whereas before you'd have been like, will
Bob the Drag Queen
I ever get there?
Monet X Change
And that would have caused, you know, whatever feelings I may have originally.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, we'll never know. We'll never know because to quote Kanye west. Well, I guess we'll never know. Did you ever see that Kanye west quote when he goes, People kept asking what I would do if I didn't win this award. Well, I guess we'll never know. Kanye west wild.
Monet X Change
I can't.
Bob the Drag Queen
But yeah, I, I, I, obviously I have achieved the things that, you know, and I, and I want to achieve more. But I also feel like if I, here's the thing. I think if I stay at the level I am now, I'll probably still be this happy. And if I achieve more, like, do you feel happier now than you were when we were working at like Barracud and stuff? Do you feel like a happier person?
Monet X Change
It's layer. Like I kind of said, like, I think that had I not been able to achieve the things that I, I have, I would have, I would have, maybe I would have been, I would have felt frustrated. I know towards the end I'm asking,
Bob the Drag Queen
do you feel happier now than you felt when you were working at Barracuda as a person? Because I saw this documentary once, they just kind of said you're just, People are kind of just as happy as they're going to be. You have moments, you have things that bring them up and bring you down. Right. But like people, people like your temperament is kind of just what it is. Unless something chemically changes within you, people are just kind of as happy as they're going to be. So do. So I guess my simple question then, I obviously elaborate as much as you want. Do you feel like you're a happier person now than you, than you, than you were before?
Monet X Change
I think yes, because I'm able to support my life in a way that I felt a little, I may have felt a little struggle before and that caused me anxiety in a way that I. That I before. Before working at Barracuda, as opposed to now, where I am now, like, because I have access to more. There's less stress. But then that balanced out. Cause we kind of talked about this before in a previous podcast, but now there's more stress. Cause now there's other things I'm, like, thinking about. Thinking about, too. So the answer is, I guess maybe it all bounces out. I don't know, to be honest. I don't know. I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I don't. I. I don't think that money necessarily makes you happier. I just think it makes you. It makes you more comfortable.
Monet X Change
Right. Cozy.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I don't think that money. I don't think that money necessarily makes people happy. This is. This is from someone who has been incredibly poor and someone who can. Who has no problem supporting their lifestyle. I've never been. I've never been. And I've never been extremely wealthy, but I make more money than I. I make more money than I need to support my lifestyle right now. And I used to not make enough making $202.13 an hour. And I was really happy back then, and I'm really happy now. So that's why I was watching the documentary. Like, oh, damn, this is probably kind of true that you're just. You're just as happy as you're going to be, and you just have little moments that kind of, you know, ebb and flow.
Caller 3
What was the question?
Bob the Drag Queen
Did I ever ask the question? Oh, workhorse. Yeah.
Monet X Change
I mean, and I think I love working.
Bob the Drag Queen
Last thing I'll say, I just love work. I am someone who just genuinely likes to work. Even at the restaurant, I was like, I'll go in. I'll make money. When. When it. When it was covered for people doing shows, doing drag shows, I like to work, though. I was.
Monet X Change
I was gonna say. I think it also comes from being, like, an artist. Right? Like, I just. You just never know. Like, I think because I've been in art since high school. Like, I've always been doing art. Like, you just never know when the art might stop or when you won't be able to or so it's always, like, I'm always taking all these. All these opportunities because I just. I love art, and I always want to create, and I don't know when it's going to stop. And I think a lot of artists feel that way. Like, a lot of. A lot of our fellow SAG members who are like, bitch, I take all these jobs because I don't know when this is going to happen, when we got to strike for going on 160 days, and I'm not going to get work. So I think that that's where a lot of the workhorseness comes from, too, is just like being an artist and always want to be able to do your. And do it freely and do it to the best of your ability because you like it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Last thing I'll say, too, is I was one of the people, even for some reason, even when I wasn't making a lot of money.
Monet X Change
You were a bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I don't even actually. Maybe that's not true. I was gonna say something that was actually just genuinely not true. I was about to say I've always ended up being able to make the money I needed, but that's not true. I've been evicted. I was, like, digging. I was, like, eating sugar sandwiches in college. I remember walking, like, miles to go to Popeyes to buy literally one chicken tender, begging my friends these. So I was. I was about to lie and say I've always been able to just have enough money to. That's actually. That's genuinely just not true because there were times where I just genuinely just did not have enough money to pay my rent or.
Monet X Change
Or.
Bob the Drag Queen
And. And stuff. So that was. That was a lie.
Monet X Change
Been down. Been up. Been broke. Been broke.
Bob the Drag Queen
Down has been broken.
Monet X Change
I mean, we don't know her life before.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm. That wasn't actually. That was just a question. I know. I wonder.
Monet X Change
I'm saying I don't know. I don't know what. I don't know what they was doing back there in Third Ward, if you had to guess.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you think Beyonce's been broke as a kid?
Monet X Change
Maybe. I think, like, when her. When her mom. Wasn't there a point that her mom, like, lost her. Her hair store or she was. Whatever business they had.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not sure.
Monet X Change
I think I remember that, like, her. Her mom, like, lost the business or something like that. I don't know how long that lasted.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know the full Knowles family store story. All right, Monet, I hope you're well and that's it, and I'm hoping you're well. What more do you want me to do? Come over there and make you well? I'm hoping it. What else you want me to do?
Monet X Change
Well, you. You know what they say about hopes?
Bob the Drag Queen
What do they say about hopes?
Monet X Change
Our hope is a truth that the past wants. Let's succeed.
Bob the Drag Queen
What did you just say? Goodbye.
Release Date: November 8, 2023
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen
In this engaging installment of Sibling Rivalry, Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen hold their signature 'Sibling Advicery' episode—fielding calls from listeners seeking advice on complicated personal situations and musing on everything from viral TikToks, employment on minimum wage, and the emotional landscape of working artists. Alongside advice, they interweave plenty of pop-culture, lighthearted drag humor, and honest reflections on mental health, relationships, and the unpredictable grind of making it as an artist.
Timestamps: 03:26–12:00
Bob’s Algorithm & Mental Space:
Bob shares how her TikTok is “pretty much exclusively Israel Palestine content” and reflects on the helplessness felt by many regarding the ongoing crises in Gaza and the Congo.
Monét on Information Overload:
Monét concurs, describing the emotional toll of seeing humanitarian catastrophes interspersed with trivial viral content (such as the Cheesecake Factory date debate).
Viral Content Skepticism:
Both discuss how apparent “real life” viral videos increasingly end up being “skits” or promotional stunts, and their skepticism about authenticity in social media moments.
Keith Lee & Atlanta Restaurant Drama:
They riff on TikTok food critic Keith Lee’s impact on restaurant reputations in Atlanta, comparing his power to Gordon Ramsay’s and joking about the fear his reviews bring to business owners.
Timestamps: 15:20–23:16
Caller Holden’s Dilemma:
A 21-year-old, identifying as a gay cis man, receives explicit messages on Grindr from a former teacher (now married with a wife). He’s torn over whether it’s his business or not if the teacher cheats, and whether to pursue a long-held teacher crush.
Bob’s Take:
Bob breaks down the ethics and legality, emphasizing one’s own boundaries:
Monét’s Response:
Monét leans sensual and practical:
Both Agree:
Check in with your own comfort level; don’t worry if the marriage is open/complicated unless you’re not comfortable with it.
Memorable Exchange:
Timestamps: 32:11–41:53
Caller’s Conflict:
A listener recently ended a relationship but is forced to work with their ex in a professional setting (as a choreographer for a performance). Their ex tries to sabotage their work, and they're debating whether to demand an apology, act petty, or rise above.
Monét Shares:
Empathizes with wanting to “just get your paycheck and bounce,” and suggests a direct but mature conversation to clear the air, for the sake of professionalism.
Bob on Petty vs. Mature:
Bob argues that Monét tends to take the high road more often than she admits, sharing stories of both their professional conflicts. They candidly discuss what pettiness means to them, with Monét admitting to minor sabotage in the past.
Moral Reflection:
Bob presses for self-examination, asking: “What’s your part in this?” and notes that breakups tend to bring out the worst in people.
Timestamps: 43:19–49:48
Caller Asks:
How to decide between an open relationship and a polyamorous one?
Bob’s Experience:
She details how she was up-front with her partner Jacob about being open or poly from the start, and would change her “rollout plan” if she did it again (less public announcement, more private).
Monét’s Take:
Echoes the importance of early communication if you know that’s your truth. Adds that their own relationship has toggled between open and closed, and that personal evolution and honest disclosure are key.
Timestamps: 56:41–67:34
Caller Patrick (age 19):
Asks how the hosts dealt with tough, low-wage jobs as aspiring artists and for any “getting by” tips.
Monét’s Work History:
She worked overnight hotel desk jobs while in college, describing a “generational mutation” where she and her family need little sleep. Tips that hotel front desk jobs can pay well and are easy to break into.
Bob’s Employment Story:
Worked at Ruby Tuesday, Chick-fil-A ("Jesus Chicken"), Applebee’s, various NYC restaurants, and drag spots, detailing the grind of making minimum wage all the way up to hundreds per shift.
Money & Happiness:
Both reflect on whether greater income (or fame) brought happiness or merely comfortability. Bob argues temperaments remain basically the same despite career growth.
Viral Jokes & Drag Humor:
The Cheesecake Factory first-date saga, “drag race dick syndrome” (nerves/bad performance from fans), and the celebrity crush segment with confessions about DMs slid into and shot-down.
Petty Confessions:
Monét admits to subtle sabotage to exclude a rival from a drag tour, Bob teases out names, and both dissect the concept of pettiness in and out of drag.
Performance Theory:
Bob and Monét discuss the “silliness” required in singing and performing (e.g., facial contortions, acting on green screen), with Bob asserting: “Singing is kind of silly…you have to just acknowledge it’s a little silly.” (50:14)
| Segment | Start | |---------------------------------------------------------|----------| | Social Media, World Events & TikTok Culture | 03:26 | | Keith Lee Discussion & Restaurant Reviews | 09:18 | | Listener: ‘High School Teacher’ Grindr Dilemma | 15:20 | | Celebrity Crushes & Drag Race Fan Interactions | 25:45 | | Listener: Ex Drama & the Art of Pettiness | 32:11 | | Open Relationship vs. Polyamory | 43:19 | | Advice for Young “Workhorses” on Minimum Wage | 56:41 | | Money, Happiness, and Artist Reflections | 62:22 |
Just as lively and mischievous as ever, Bob and Monét combine thoughtful introspection with a signature irreverent edge. The advice toggles between practical, affirming, and sometimes scandalous, peppered with personal stories and transparent self-reflection.
Listeners are left both giggling and thinking, with a reminder that drag excellence comes from more than just a stunning wig—it takes vulnerability, hustle, and the willingness to spill a little tea.