Sibling Rivalry LIVE: Sequins, Scandals and Scottish Castles

Summary

Sibling Rivalry LIVE: Sequins, Scandals, and Scottish Castles

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen
Date: March 10, 2026
Format: Live show, audience in attendance
Theme: RuPaul’s Drag Race alumni, Traitors gameplay, friendship banter, and reality TV reflections.

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Episode Overview

This live episode brings the signature chemistry and razor-sharp wit of Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen to an intimate audience. Against a backdrop of Scottish castles, sequins, and reality TV intrigue, the duo recounts their reality competition adventures (especially “Traitors”), discuss birthday party dreams, debate TV show formats, and playfully roast each other and their colleagues. Expect lively debate, inside stories, and spirited commentary on the intersections of drag, friendship, and TV fame.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter & Live Show Energy

• Bob and Monét riff on the small, “sold out” crowd and their excitement for the live setting.
• Quote: “Sold out. All 12 seats.” – Bob (01:13)
• Warm shoutout to Lawrence Chaney for the regal introduction.

2. Reality Show Adventures

a. The Dream of Competing Together

• Both lament producers never casting them together on competitive reality shows.
• Quote: “Y’all are missing out on TV gold. You imagine the siblings in any space professionally together would be ridiculous.” – Monét (01:43)

b. Bob’s Traitors-Inspired Birthday Plan

• Bob wants to host a “Traitors” style birthday in a rented mansion or castle, with high stakes: “Once you are eliminated, there is an Uber outside. You have to leave right now.” (02:39)
• Monét teases Bob about wanting a birthday planned for him, but with a list of very specific requests.

c. Airbnb Experiences and Scottish Castles

• Musings on renting a castle via Airbnb, perhaps for Bob’s 40th birthday.
• Monét: “We might do one. An experience for the summer, for your birthday.” (04:04)

3. Drag Queen Games & House Rules

• Discuss karaoke game “Guess It Care,” where participants sing chosen songs without lyrics; Monét highlights her family’s showy participation.
• Lighthearted confusion over family song choices and Bob’s playful banter about Caribbean and African countries.

4. Pronunciation & Cultural Identity

• Lively debate about food pronunciations and localisms (e.g., “bruschetta” vs. “brushetta,” “Los Feliz” vs. “Los Feliz”).
• Bob jokes: “There’s a street called Buena Vista. Everyone in Columbus, Georgia calls it Bua Vista.” (07:46)

5. Hairlines, Aging, and Friendly Shading

• Bob discusses his hair transplant journey, daily Minoxidil routine, and light teasing about Monét joining him.
• “I’m trying to not be on Bald Way is what I’m trying to do, girl.” – Bob (09:47)
• Monét and Bob playfully bicker about how much effort hair care requires.

6. City Life: LA vs New York

• Monét extols LA’s quality of life but still needs her “New York fix.”
• Bob: “New Yorkers don’t go to each other’s homes.” (10:29)
• Anecdotes about New York apartment life and why inviting people over is unusual.

7. Etiquette: Bringing Guests Unannounced

• Hilarity as Bob recalls refusing to let Monet’s assistant into his apartment unannounced years ago; staged retaliation ensues with Bob bringing Vivacious to Monét’s house without warning.
• “You cannot bring a person to someone else’s house unannounced.” – Bob (12:57)

8. Traitors Wardrobe & Behind-the-Scenes

• Monét details the designers behind her looks (“Pearl from Drag Race made a bunch of my outfits for Traitors” – 15:12).
• Bob recounts careful wardrobe planning for “Traitors” to manage others’ perceptions.

9. Traitors Gameplay, Alliances, and Strategy

• Both discuss alliance-making, betrayals, and memorable game twists.
• Monét’s strategy: “You have to trust somebody. Otherwise, you’re playing the game by yourself.” (19:31)
• Bob praises Danielle Reyes as a player: “Daniel Reyes is legit one of the best traitors to ever play the game.” (22:34)
• Reflection on the art of the final word at Traitors’ roundtables, citing Boston Rob’s manipulation.

10. Comparing Traitors International Editions & Gameplay

• Differences between US and UK/Canada gameplay: UK focuses more on power, not money; Canada adds cash prizes for banishing traitors.
• Suggestions for tweaks, including allowing traitors to select their teammates and more meaningful mission rewards.

11. Celebrated (and Underrated) Reality TV Contestants

• RuPaul’s Drag Race: debate over greatest dancers (Alyssa Edwards, Kennedy Davenport, Denali, etc.).
• Sly shading of Drag Race prize packages compared to Mr. Beast’s $10 million “Beast Games” show.

12. Bias & “Pretty Privilege” in Reality TV

• Bob on bias: “I naturally have a bias against really pretty people like you… you gotta go, because that gives you what you got going on is pissing me off.” (36:21)
• Both recognize “pretty privilege” and “charming privilege” as real forces in alliances and game progression.

13. Rapid Fire Age-Guessing Game

• Guessing ages of fellow cast members: Portia Williams, Colton, Eric Nam, Lisa Rinna, etc., with fact-checks and audience corrections.
• Monét: “How old is Lisa? Or how old is her silicone?” (41:02)

14. Party FOMO & Friendship Receipts

• Playful accusations of missed birthday parties and attempts to publicly clear scheduling conflicts.
• “Monet loves to book things when I’m out of town.” – Bob (43:00)

15. Game Format Critiques & Suggestions

• Debate over missions in Traitors; Bob wants them to provide more than just money: “The mission should give you information… let you find out who’s faithful, bestow immunity.” (44:40)
• Both suggest competition formats could incentivize faithfuls to catch traitors with more rewards.

16. Reality TV Reflections

• Current Drag Race season judged “not great;” both agree Traitors was more exciting this year.
• Bob: “Is Traitors my new favorite show? Maybe.” (50:09)
• Closing thoughts on “being dumb” in reality TV—no shame, only the reality of casting and gameplay.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Let thy cheers shake their rafters. Let thy spirit soar to the heavens… Bob the Drag Queen, and Monet X Change. Wow.” – Monét (00:08)
• “Once you are eliminated, there is an Uber outside. You have to leave right now. Like, you don’t get to stick around and enjoy food… you have to leave.” – Bob (02:39)
• “I want breakfast catered in the morning… sausage, egg, and cheddar cheese on a croissant.” – Bob (06:12)
• “You cannot bring a person to someone else’s house unannounced.” – Bob (12:57)
• “Laughing at my murder is crazy.” – Monet (15:41)
• “Daniel Reyes is legit one of the best traitors to ever play the game.” – Bob (22:34)
• “A queen will come on and she’ll dance or she’ll do comedy… and they’ll be like, this is the best dancer who’s ever been on Drag Race. Because the other ones are just so far behind, so it happened so long ago.” – Bob (24:13)
• “The prize for season one of Beast Games was $10 million… and Drag Race is like, here’s two sticks of chewing gum and a RuPaul thank you.” – Monét (48:09)
• “Some folks just kind of dumb.” – Bob (50:57)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:08: Live show opening, regal intro parody
• 01:13: Audience/venue banter; 12 “sold out” seats
• 02:39: Bob’s Traitors-style birthday plan
• 04:10: Airbnb Scottish castle plans
• 06:49: Food pronunciation debate
• 08:31: Hairlines & transplants
• 10:29: LA vs New York lifestyle debate
• 12:57: Unannounced guest etiquette
• 15:12: Traitors wardrobe/designers
• 18:54: Traitors alliances & betrayals
• 22:34: Danielle Reyes praise
• 24:13: Drag Race dancer debate
• 36:21: Bias and “pretty privilege”
• 39:06: Age-guessing game segment
• 41:29: Birthday party/FOMO stories
• 44:40: How to improve Traitors missions
• 48:09: Prize money comparisons (Beast Games vs Drag Race)
• 50:09: Drag Race vs Traitors: which is best?
• 50:57: “Being dumb” in reality TV

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Tone and Language

The episode is high-energy, irreverent, and filled with in-jokes, drag queen shade, and reality TV lingo. Bob and Monét’s chemistry is front and center, combining quick-witted debate, sharp personal teasing, heartfelt moments, and nerdy reality TV analysis. The banter is affectionate yet biting—perfect for fans of both Drag Race and high-camp comedy.

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Final Thoughts

This rollicking live taping is a microcosm of what makes Sibling Rivalry beloved: infectious chemistry, real talk about showbiz and life, and the kind of inside insights only true icons can deliver. If you want the drag, dirt, and drama of reality TV—served with a side of sequined heart—this episode delivers.

Transcript

[Monet X Change]

Hear ye, hear ye. Let thy cheers shake their rafters. Let thy spirit soar to the heavens. Rise now as one. Clap thy palms and make thunderous way for the Empresses of Comedy, the Baronesses of Banter, the Duchesses of Discourse, Bob the Drag Queen, and Monet X Change. Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hello. Thank you. First of all, big shout out to Lawrence Chaney, Lawrence Shane for that amazing intro. The Queen of Scotland.

[Monet X Change]

She is the Queen of Scotland.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Alan could never and would never.

[Monet X Change]

How y' all feeling tonight? Y' all feeling good? What a cute little intimate show. This is cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sold out. All 12 seats.

[Monet X Change]

The best seats. Yes. Are you guys enjoying the experience tonight? So dope, right? I live.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, first of all, I want to start out by saying, obviously, Monet X Change and I were both on a little TV show called Hoarders. Drag Race. The Traitors. Different seasons. They refuse to cast us together.

[Monet X Change]

I don't like no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On anything.

[Monet X Change]

On anything except Dungeons and Drag Queens. Yeah, Dungeons and Drag Queens. But, like, no TV show. I'm like, y'. All. Y' all are missing out on TV gold. You imagine the siblings in any space professionally together would be ridiculous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But then would anyone else have a moment to breathe out loud?

[Monet X Change]

That would be sibling rivalry. X. The Traitors, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I did say that years ago, not years ago. That's insane. A year ago, years ago.

[Monet X Change]

You're old.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A year ago, I was like, I want to actually, like, do a weekend where I invite my friends out and we spend a weekend playing the Traitors.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This was okay. Y' all know, Bob has a million. A million ideas a minute, right? When you got back from filming Traitors, you were like, monet. He was like, I have this idea. I want to invite one of my invites of friends and celebrities to this mansion in Beverly Hills. And we're gonna do. I'm gonna do my version of the Traders. And I was like, girl, he's like, monet, listen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But my. My thing is, I. What I want to do, I want the stakes to be high. So for me, I'm like, once you are eliminated, there is an Uber outside. You have to leave right now. Like, you don't get to stick around and enjoy food and have fun and eat the salmon. No, you. You have been banished. You have been murdered. You have to leave.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, but are you hosting it, or do you want to be a contestant?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It doesn't matter. I just want people to leave. I just want someone's visions and souls to be crushed as they are forced to. How did Tara, say you must go up and pack your bags and leave immediately.

[Monet X Change]

Well, here's the thing, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was like, immediately, like, was anyone ever, like, moseying around like, bitch, can I grab my stuff? God damn.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I think we all know Tyra was on one, okay. For the better part of 20 years. Tyra's still on one a little bit. Which. You saw her, Bob is love Tyra Banks. You went to the Abbey to go watch Tyra Banks before for Christmas?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I watched Santa Smize. I did not watch Tyra Banks. I watched Santa Smize perform her hit song, Santa Smize for Smize and Dream, the legendary ice cream shop, which is apparently under some litigation. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. But anyway, so I found out. So first of all, I want to thank Airbnb for help. Airbnb for helping us do this thing. I found out that through Airbnb, you can actually rent a castle girl.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In Scotland.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, you can. Well, Airbnb, they do experiences, and, you know, I love an experience. We might do one. An experience for the summer, for your birthday.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ooh, I'm not leaving.

[Monet X Change]

We sent you home, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's my birthday. Well, this summer is my 40th birthday.

[Monet X Change]

I know you know this, bitch. Like, I was like, bob, what do you want to do for your birthday? He's like, monet, I have this idea. He's like, no, Monet. He's like, I just want to be with my friends. I don't want no crazy party. I don't want anything. So he has. You have a very quaint little fun idea you want to do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, what I want to do is I want to invite a bunch of friends out to a nice, big home that I don't own. I live in a three bedroom apartment, but I would love to rent out, like, a big, big home and have everyone sleep over. We can sing karaoke. I love to do this game called, like, Guess it Care. I don't know. There's not a name for it. But no one ever wants to play it. No one ever wants to play it.

[Monet X Change]

That's not true. That is not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Only me and you. No one else plays it. No.

[Monet X Change]

If you want to play the game,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob's played it before. Yeah. But basically what you do is you. You. You have the TV to your back, and then one of your friends chooses a karaoke song for you.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then you have to sing it without looking at the words. Yeah. But, you know, people be shy. But a lot of our friends, A lot of our friends are entertainers who don't mind.

[Monet X Change]

But yeah, half of our friends are all entertainers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shy people. Wait, but didn't you have your grandma did a really. What song did your grandma do?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I forgot. It was Crazy by Fancy Klein.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was very, very cute.

[Monet X Change]

But then we have friends that act shy. Like, like, Mat's like, guys, I don't do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's like, no, like.

[Monet X Change]

All right, Mato, you were shy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What song did your aunt sing? Drink Water and Mind My Business. What is it? I Want to Drink Water and what is the song? Is that it?

[Monet X Change]

That's it.

[Jacob]

Till I'm Old and Gray.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's it called?

[Jacob]

Till I'm Old and Gray.

[Monet X Change]

Old and Gray.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Till I'm Old. Till I Old and Gray.

[Monet X Change]

Why do you become Ms. Cleo when he's talking about my family?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Till I Old and Botswana. Did I say Botswana?

[Monet X Change]

That was. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why Botswana? That's in Africa. I know where it is.

[Monet X Change]

Do you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But people from the Caribbean are allowed to say Botswana.

[Monet X Change]

We are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We are.

[Monet X Change]

You're not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm also. People in America can also say Botswana. Just want to say that out loud. Loud and clear. But I mean, I, I was saying the main thing. I don't want to plan my birthday.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, you don't want to plan it. So I, I, I will. I will.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want breakfast catered in the morning.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, so now you got demands.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, this is something I've been saying for a long time. I just want breakfast in the morning. And I want there to be sausage, egg and cheese, and croissant. For me, that's my favorite breakfast food. Sausage, egg, and cheddar cheese on a croissant. Can I ask you a quick question about.

[Monet X Change]

Bob is the only person that wants nothing to plan his birthday but tell you everything to do for his birthday. Can I plan? So what decisions do I get to make?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll do it on February 19th. But can I ask you a question real quick? This is totally off topic. Who knew us getting off topic? How do you feel about people mispronouncing food from other places? Like, what if it's just your accent?

[Monet X Change]

Give me an example.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna say croissant.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No one expects that. I'm not gonna say croissant. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

No one's supposed to say croissant. We don't expect that. But there are some things. Like if you are at a very fancy Italian restaurant like the Olive Garden, I would expect that you say bruschetta, not bruschetta.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't. It's not brusque. I Think it's bruschetta. But I think that. Yeah, cause you did that. You just thought what you just said a second ago. Like, I will say there's one exception which is not really the proper pronunciation. But like, you can't say quesadilla. Yeah, that's crazy because most Americans or most English speaking countries say quesadilla also. I mean, but if you're like, yeah, can I get taco? But if you don't. But like, if you don't speak Spanish or if that's not how you say taco, you can just say taco.

[Monet X Change]

I will say I am bothered by people from Los Angeles and I don't know if any who do this when they say Los Angeles. Los Feliz. It is feliz.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that's not how they pronounce it here.

[Monet X Change]

That is. It is how you pronounce it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, they say Los Fe. Like, for example, I am from Columbus, Georgia, and there's a street called Buav Vista. Everyone in Columbus, Georgia calls it Bua Vista. It's Bua Vista Boulevard. Now of course, it's Bu Visa Boulevard. But everyone just says everyone in Columbus, Georgia says Bu Vista Boulevard.

[Monet X Change]

It's Georgia. The reading comprehension is like a 30%. What are you talking about?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

New York.

[Monet X Change]

We looked this up on the podcast. New York City's at 92%.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm talking about you

[Monet X Change]

at 92% for New York City. So try it. See, look at how aggressive you are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is why you got kicked out the train. Look very aggressive. And look how passive you are. That's why you got murdered. Yeah, gathered. Also, Monet's very mad because I don't know if you guys can tell I have a hairline now.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, okay, okay, first of all, these are concepts of a hairline. Okay, girl, let a strong breeze come through. You gonna be bald headed again, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me blink on another. You'll be where you are. Okay, but this is. I'm four months. Four ish months post op.

[Monet X Change]

No. I'm shocked. I feel like you might be influencing me. Should I do it too?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You'll need a couple of.

[Monet X Change]

You see, why do you have to have so much vitriol in your heart? I'm trying to be nice and sweet in front of all of our invited guests here. And you are being sweet. So shady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, no, but you also. You don't want to do the work,

[Monet X Change]

which is a lot of work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not a lazy person, so just do you.

[Monet X Change]

But like, knowing I would have to do this every day like, take the Minoxidil and do the massages and do the microneedling, it seems. Massages.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're adding stuff. You rub an ointment, you rub a

[Monet X Change]

medicine on your hand and rubbing is massaging.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shut the fuck up. I know monation when I hear it. Drink water and mind your business. No, you put the Minoxid on every day. You have to shampoo your hair or your scalp every day. And then you. I do a red light therapy.

[Monet X Change]

She on Broadway, honey. She on the trainer. She doing Garnier Fructis commercials.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's at red light therapy. Girl, I'm trying to not be on Bald Way is what I'm trying to do, girl. So I put like a little helmet on at night and I play, and I play. I play League of Legends and I.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, so wait, you've been in New York for the past, what, month and a half?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Since January 3rd.

[Monet X Change]

And do you like being back in the city with. Oh, y' all have. Y' all have had like three blizzards. Two blizzards. Two blizzARDS in New York?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

How is it being back in the cold city?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I mean, I. I don't, you know, I don't go out, so I don't really. I don't really be doing stuff, so I'm really just at home and at the theater, so I'm not doing a ton. I'm not going. I don't go to the park. I don't go, you know, I don't like going to restaurants.

[Monet X Change]

What do you like doing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love being home. You know, I love being home. I'll go to my friends homes. But New Yorkers don't go to each other's homes. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Because they're all so small.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I guess I forgot about that too, because I invited some of the actors to my. To my apartment. They were like, what? And I was like, no. I was like, yeah, you want to come over? They were like, well, because the thing is, in New York City. Anyone here from New York City? Okay. I don't want nobody to be like, I'm from, you know, Albany. But you will know someone for literally over a decade, and you will never, ever see the inside of their home. Like, ever. Not once. It's just part of being a New Yorker. But I. I do love about living in la. Al. I would not call myself an. An Angelino or. I wouldn't. I wouldn't say I'm.

[Monet X Change]

I'm. I don't. What. I've been here for five years now. I wouldn't call myself An Angelino.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yet.

[Monet X Change]

I will say moving since moving to Los Angeles. And again, I'm a born, raised in New York. I live in New York. I do say. Say my quality of life is better here in Los Angeles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do.

[Monet X Change]

And I love New York.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm. I'm ripping you up right now.

[Monet X Change]

I know I go down with the comments, but, I mean, I'm in New York, like, once, at least once every two months, so I get my New York fix. So I feel confident in saying that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would say I like going to people's house. I don't like. I used to love having people.

[Monet X Change]

And you like. You like sending people to my house. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you. With your. With your consent. No, that's not true.

[Monet X Change]

Do not lie. Do not lie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never seen anyone in your house without permission.

[Monet X Change]

You are such a liar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never seen someone in your house in New York without your permission.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, that is you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that was to prove a point. And I'm gonna tell you why I think I've mentioned this podcast before. Years ago, my friend Taylor bought Patrick Monet's assistant to my home without telling me.

[Monet X Change]

Patty's not my assistant. Patty's now my chief overall officer at Monet Exchange Industries.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That sounds very Trumpian. Well, the chief executive finance officer came to my partner, my apartment, and did not. He didn't tell me. So Taylor was like, it was years

[Monet X Change]

ago before they were acquainted. This was like, maybe like, I never met Patrick 10 years ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Taylor was like, oh, my friend Patrick's here. He's in the stairway. Can he come in? I was like, no, he can't come in. And he was like, what? He was like, what are you. What are you gonna do? I said, he gonna. He gonna wait outside until we leave. And he was like, are you cold, Yo? It was like, negative 3 degrees outside of the cold. He was in the stairwell, but it was cold. It's not cold.

[Monet X Change]

Bad circulation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not true. They're building. If you know anything about New York City departments, when it's winter, they are hot. You are in a furnace. You can't control the heat. So Patty sat in the stairwell for 30 minutes. But while we. While we got rid of Lee, it probably was 45 minutes. And then Monet was like, I don't see the big issue. I said, you can't just bring someone to your house unannounced. You cannot bring a person to someone else's house unannounced. Right.

[Monet X Change]

That's right. Are y' all gonna make them sit Outside, Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, for example, a lot of folks are saying, yes.

[Monet X Change]

For example, if Bob brought someone to my house, I would assume that the person Bob is bringing is someone that's not gonna ransack my home and destroy my home. I'd be like, okay, don't do that again. But they can come inside.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It wasn't about Rans sacking. I was. I was not dressed. We were getting ready to go somewhere. I was getting changed into drag. My apartment was messy. I'm not a tidy person. And I had a really, really, really small New York City apartment. So it was a lot of room in there.

[Monet X Change]

As well as being generous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The apartment was messy. I was like, in my underwear. And I was like, he's waiting outside. I don't know him. He's waiting outside. So then when I was like, what's the big issue? I don't see the problem. So then I said, oh. I said, so you're telling me if I bought someone your house without telling you, you wouldn't care? When they were like, I wouldn't care. And I said, noted, escalating. So then I brought someone to Monet's house. I didn't tell her. And then I will say, anyone.

[Monet X Change]

So. Okay, no, you see? Don't brush over my details, bitch. So I had got the call for Drag Race, and I obviously, I told Bob, you're on the NDA.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You cancel.

[Monet X Change]

Anyone literally called Bob immediately after I got on the phone call. And Bob was like, okay, I'm gonna come over. We're gonna talk through some stuff. And I was like, okay. And then, so Bob comes to my house. This, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

I open the door and I see Va, the drag queen. He goes, I brought someone else over with me. Behind him is Vivacious from season five or six is Rule Drag. I never met Vivacious out of no Vivacious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

I knew her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I vouched for her. It's not a problem. What's the problem?

[Monet X Change]

Okay, it wasn't the problem.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was like you were the problem.

[Monet X Change]

You were retaliating and escalating a situation from, like, 10 years ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did it with. I. I cleared it with you. You said it was okay. No, I. I cleared. I said, so if I brought someone to your house without telling you, it wouldn't be a problem. When they said that would not be a problem, I said, noted. Did I not clear it? I cleared it up. I cleared it up.

[Monet X Change]

Don't clap for that. Anyway, so we're both wearing iconic looks from our traitors. Well, mine's my thing, but okay, I'll talk about mine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Talk about yours. I thought you were murdered in the corset.

[Monet X Change]

Now it's murdered in this. Well, I call it murdered when you show up the next morning. Like, this is what I. This is what I read my murder letter that I. That the traitors murdered.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it. I thought you were. I don't know why. I thought you were in a cruise.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I wore this outfit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of course the look is really cute.

[Monet X Change]

And of course the look was really cute. So fun fact, are y' all RuPaul Drag Race fans? Yeah, Pearl from season seven made a bunch of the outfits I wore on Traders. Like the corsets and stuff? Yeah, like right before I left. And I had some really dope ones that I didn't get to wear because I was murdered. But Pearl is such not laughing at my murder. It's crazy. Laughing at my murder is crazy. So Pearl didn't make this. This is a vintage blazer that my stylist, Taylor, we got a bunch of brooches to put on it and these pants that a designer in la, his name is Howie B. Made these pants. We needed some Gucci loafers. But what. What? What are you looking at?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's my brooch.

[Monet X Change]

What's your brooch?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The face. That is my brooch.

[Monet X Change]

That is not your bro.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Face is my brooch. Taylor, you didn't buy that Taylor gave you that brooch, did he? Yes, Taylor got. That is my brooch. That's. I just realized that is my brooch. That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Show me the receipt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is my brooch. I'm screaming right now.

[Monet X Change]

How do we know that's true?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what? I know the truth and that's all that matters.

[Monet X Change]

But yeah, so I always say, when you getting murdered in traitors, it sucks so hard because at least when you get banished, bitch, you can fight for your life. You can with. With the every last breath of your body. You can go out fighting. When you get murdered, you just, you,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

whoa, I'm gonna have a fun little dad. I'm gonna.

[Monet X Change]

I'm gonna go into the breakfast, get some hard ass cold eggs, eat some salmon and live my life. And then you find out you're murderous. It really sucks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all know too, is that sometimes you don't know you're murdered until you're trying to walk in. I don't know how they did it, but like, there were times where you'd be like, they would get like a couple. You'd walk in, a few at a Time. And then you would go to walk and you'd be at the back. And as. As you're walking in, there's like four of you walking in. They'll grab the last one and be

[Monet X Change]

like, come this way. That's what it is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you don't know until you pass the door and you literally, like, I thought they were behind me.

[Monet X Change]

You wake up that morning, you get dressed, you think you're going to have a normal day in the castle. And as your group is walking in, you walk in, you feel like fucking. Like a lurch is on your shoulder, like, and they pull you, like, not you. And then that's when you find out you get murdered.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Isn't that crazy?

[Monet X Change]

Sucks. It sucks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, right over your shoulder because you're all walking in, you're like, woo.

[Monet X Change]

Woo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then you look back because there's supposed to be someone behind you. No, no.

[Monet X Change]

That tells about your look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. So this look, it was designed by both Rob Bryant and Diego Montoya from Diego Montoya Studios. This is my interest look for season three of the Traitors. I really wanted to be subtle. I didn't want to call a lot of attention to myself. I wanted to fly under the radar. So I made sure I wore something one color, monochromatic. I thought to myself, I'll blend the sky. No, obviously I wanted a lot of attention, which probably is not the smartest thing to do on the Traders, but I actually had. I actually had a lot of trust on the Traders. I actually don't think that my. Excuse me. My loud game. Can I tell you right now, there are times on Broadway when I have to burp and I'm just in the middle of a scene. Like, I'll be talking to someone, I'll be in someone's face, and I'll be like, I have to burp in your face. I'm so sorry, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Opera singers do it all the time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just burping people's face. Anyway, sorry, back to what I was saying. I actually don't think that my loud gameplay was what got me. It was. It was me just randomly being like one of the cage boys.

[Monet X Change]

That's what I'm saying. So. So, y'. All. It be the. The subtlest thing that you. The something you think is so inconsequential can be. Or doing. Bob just said that about the thing about Boston Rob so flippantly, and that got him banished me. And I was in the. In the. In the challenge in the mission with Candace, and I thought 100% Candace was my Ally. People say, well, you can't trust anyone, y'. All. You have to trust somebody. Otherwise, you're playing the game by yourself. So you got to lean on someone. And from the. From the time the game started, when we got out those Land Rovers and we saw everyone, I said to myself,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

which, they're much nicer cars than our season.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, honey. Because the budget went up, apparently.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're welcome. You're welcome.

[Monet X Change]

Next day, they gonna meet them cybertrucks. I mean, I. You are such a cut.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's. Anyway, you were so proud of it.

[Monet X Change]

So when we got out after Allen chose the traitors that first night, I was like, okay. I was like, I'm just gonna go off of guts and vibes. I felt like Portia Colton, did you. I did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you vote against her?

[Monet X Change]

I did not vote against her. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Portia. Or did Porsche dirty?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, we did. They did Portia dirty. Portia, Colton. Candace, Jam. Jam. And Natalie. I was like, I don't know what it is. I said, I feel these five people are faithfuls, and I'm gonna ride with them, and I'm gonna make alliances with that five group of people. And I was right about all of them except Candace.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, when I got there, my initial response was like, I feel like before we were even selected, before I even knew, should I say I was like, I have something I want to be with. Danielle Reyes. Like, I love her. She is gonna be my number one. She'll be my ride or die. And luckily, we were on the same team. Yeah. So it ended up working out. But we were on the lock, like, floating together on a thing. And I remember she was telling me how much she couldn't stand Britney and how Brittany did her dirty in other games. Brittany was from Big Brother. Britney's the one who. She was the recruited traitor on season three.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yes. Got it, got it, got it, got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I remember thinking to myself, I didn't say to her because I didn't know she was a traitor. And she. I was a traitor at the time. And I was like, well, honey, Britney won't wake up in the morning. Cause I'm gonna kill that bitch. How dare she be doing anything.

[Monet X Change]

You said that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, in my head.

[Monet X Change]

Oh. I was like, that was a bold statement to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't say. I was like, well, I'm gonna kill Brittany. But then I found out she's into her, and she's like, no, don't kill her. They'll think it's me.

[Monet X Change]

I did feel strong about Portia before because. Just because I'm a big Housewives of Atlanta fan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, Phil showing that she was a traitor.

[Monet X Change]

No, that I wanted to work with her. I didn't care if Portia. I don't care what Portia did. I was like, I want to be friends with this bitch. Also, just her ass in person is so impressive. The only one that rivals mine. I was like, this is crazy. So I just love her. And then Candace. So a little inside tea. So after the Portia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why are we whispering?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. Is she here just in case Alan is lurking around, you know? So after the Portia banishment, and this is what Candace tricked me to. Because Candace was so gung ho. After, like, Portia got banished, she was like, I just knew she was a faithful. I can't believe we did. Like, she was like. I was like, yeah, bitch, me too. I was like, that is so convincing. And then me and her, we go to the bar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of course she knew. She knows what. Everyone's a violationist.

[Monet X Change]

We go to the bar. It was just me and her. And I was like, candace, look. I was like, I don't know if you're faithful. I don't know if you're a traitor. You don't know if I'm a faithful. You don't know if I'm a traitor. But I'll tell you this. I was like, if I'm a traitor, I will never say your name in a turret. And if I'm a faithful, I will never say your name at the round table. And I will fight for you in a castle. And I'm just asking for the same thing from you. And she was like, I got you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be fair, she didn't say her name of the tour. She said on the way up, no playing. I mean, there were people that I really liked. Like, I actually really like Jeremy.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Jeremy from Survivor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. But he said the wrong thing. He said Danielle's name, and I was like, that's a rap.

[Monet X Change]

Did you tell Danielle that? He said her name immediately?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I'm telling. That was my thing. I said on the. I said, I'm telling.

[Monet X Change]

So you were so faithful to your traitors.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, yes.

[Monet X Change]

Well, Danielle, but not Karen. Karen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Carol. I would.

[Monet X Change]

Carolyn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would have turned on Carolyn. For sure.

[Monet X Change]

You would have said, but not on Danielle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I wouldn't turn.

[Monet X Change]

Would you have turned on Rob?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, for sure, 100%.

[Monet X Change]

Danielle is the only one that you would not turn on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would not have turned on her.

[Monet X Change]

But she turned on you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, yeah, she Voted against. I don't hold it against her. Beyond. She had to protect her game. I actually, I want to go and say something to him. Maybe I'll do a YouTube video this one day. I'm going to go and say out loud, right? Yeah, get louder. Daniel Reyes is legit one of the best traitors to ever play the game. She actually genuinely is there. And then this weird thing. Allen was like, the dog, the puppy, which is calling her the puppy. Is the puppy Girl on Watch Rap is live. He was like, the girl was like a puppy. I was like, why a puppy?

[Monet X Change]

Did she do something puppy?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, I do. I do not know why he said she was like. I honestly cannot figure out his reasoning behind saying she was like a puppy. I don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me. I do. Maybe because she was crying one time on the floor and shaking. Is that a puppy thing? Do puppies? I don't know. Whatever. But she, I think she is the third lasting longest straight, longest lasting trader behind Sari Rob. I think that's just it.

[Monet X Change]

Well, on the us, on the US the traders be killing it. On the uk, the UK traders, they're unmatched. They're so good, Harry. One of the greatest ever do it. But I, but I agree, you know, people say that Rob is. I was like, if people saying Rob, they clearly did not watch season one. The way Serif feels, Serene feels was so good. She made a traitor quit at the end. He was like, you know what? I just, I just, I just bow out. He's like, he's like, I just. I don't want to do this anymore. Like, that's how good Cere was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sheree also, I have to go back and watch, but I'm pretty sure she never ever once got her name down.

[Monet X Change]

Not once. They did not say her name one single time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think it's a little bit of a couple of things because I noticed with RuPaul's Drag Race, right, a queen will come on and she'll dance or she'll do comedy or she'll give looks and they'll be like, this is the best dancer who's ever been on Drag Race. Because the other ones are just so far behind, so it happened so long ago.

[Monet X Change]

Say their names.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, they'll say, like, Juicy Love, Dion is the best. Is the best dancer to ever be on Drag Race. But they forget how many great dancers have been on RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

Do you think Alyssa Edwards is a better dancer than Juicy Love? Dion.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Probably not. Maybe not. I think she's probably a better choreographer for sure, because that's kind of her bread and butter. But I would say Kennedy Davenport is an amazing dancer. Chi Chi Devane is an absolutely amazing dancer.

[Monet X Change]

So Kennedy Davenport is a better dancer than Juicy Love Dion, who? Kennedy Davenport is a better dancer. Deuce Love Dion, probably, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In my opinion, Denali was an amazing dancer. There have been a lot, I think that people are just kind of like forgetting because you felt it's something Boston Rob said to me that during our podcast, which you can check out, the Traders official podcast was if you're at the round table or if you're at a council, what they call them, Survivor Council, Tribal Council. Tribal Council. If you can time it, where the last. That you get the last word, that will be the most prevalent thing in their mind. So what Boston Rob did with me was he let everyone go on and on about Nikki and someone else. It was between Nikki and someone else. They was going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And then he waited to the very last minute. He was like, actually, it's Bob the Drag Queen. They have now completely forgotten everything they said about Nikki and whoever else it was. None of that mattered anymore because now became me yelling at him and screaming at everyone and going off on everyone. And that was all that was stuck in their mind. Even though no one had thought of me before. Only vote I got before that was from Dylan. No one else voted for me up until Boston Rob did it. But he waited until the very last second to say this. Because if you go first, then you're going to have the most distance between you and time to vote.

[Monet X Change]

Which, by the way, everyone is always scared to speak first.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said the rooster, baby. I was always be like, well, of course it's been always. It was the line from Clue. Well, someone's got to go first. And of course, it's always my duty. And my husband does. Oh, the tea. The soup is delicious.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, we all go into that. We all go. We all go into the roundtable and they play the music. You sit there and it's always like that. The magnification.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cybertruck. Nikki, this is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

The entire room is on, like the edge of the seat. Like, who is going to open their mouth first and speak? It's so the show. I say this, I've said this in so many interviews. But traitors, the production of traitors, they are so great about creating this world. Like I'm telling you. Cause I was watching the show and Be like, these people are so dramatic, y'. All. Ain't nobody really dying. No one's really banishing. Everyone needs to calm down. When you get there, you feel like niggas is dying for real. You feel like this shit you like. They care so much about the integrity of the game that you really feel like you're in this real immersive thing where this shit is happening for real. Did you feel like that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. To quote a Scream, this is subscription.

[Monet X Change]

It really is. And I love that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And that's why Scream. Scary movie.

[Monet X Change]

Scary Movie. That's why I love the show so much. Because, like, they make you. Cause we, Bob and I, we play these strategy games at home all the time. We play Secret Hitler. We play Werewolf. We play Mafia. All these games, and you're playing, like, a really expensive, multi million dollar version of that game like it was dope.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to talk about our games we play.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, tell me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I think the ones we play most are Mafia and Secret Hitler. We play these games a lot. And something that I. That usually happens when me and Monet play. First of all, Monet just feels like she is. You already know because it's true. And Jacob can vouch for this.

[Monet X Change]

You say it every time, and it's not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is true. Jacob can vouch for this.

[Monet X Change]

He's your boyfriend. He's on your payroll.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you mean Jacob's on your payroll?

[Monet X Change]

You do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob works for Sibling Rivalry, and he

[Monet X Change]

worked for Bob the Drag Queen for a long time, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob does not work for Bob. I have never paid Jacob out of Bob the Drag Queen. Jacob gets paid from sibling rivalry, honey. But when we sit down, I'm like, hey, guys, before we start the game, I just want you all to know, before anyone has assigned their roles, Monet's gonna say, I'm bad. I was gonna let you know right now. Monet's gonna accuse me. That's gonna happen.

[Monet X Change]

But that's about your nature.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, we've not been assigned anything right now. But I assure you all, before the game starts, Monet is going to call me bad. And then the game starts, and then Monet's like, bob's bad. I know it.

[Monet X Change]

Bob's not true. There's a whole stream version of us playing Blood on the Clock Tower, which Bob says this exact same spiel to try to sway the entire everyone else playing. And I did not do it, and you were bad. So now what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mind you, I say this before we have. I don't look at my card and go, ha, ha ha. Here's my plan. I'm like, y', all, don't let Monet sway you.

[Monet X Change]

Anyways, so my strategy for traitors was, what I wanted to do was I wanted to get alliances inside and outside. Like, I wanted. Like, I wanted to, like, if I felt someone was a traitor, I was gonna befriend them and be cool with them, which they didn't really. Show it again. We filmed for so many hours of the day. It was only a one hour show. You can only fit so much in there. But when we did the last one murdered, the thing with the spears. When Tiffany goes modi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That mission she ate with that song, she did.

[Monet X Change]

Lisa was having a hard time finding a group. That's why when we were all, like,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

scrapping, why didn't you say your name? Cause you did her. Why did she scream her name again?

[Monet X Change]

Because you did her. I had did her before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why'd you do her?

[Monet X Change]

You know, I was like, I'm gonna play, like, chill, but it's so hard. I'm like. I assumed a leadership role in our group. I was like, guys, I'll take the spare. I'll do it. Everyone's like, I know what it. I was like, I'm giving the spot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why'd you choose Tiffany?

[Monet X Change]

I asked the group. I said, guys, who are we gonna do? Are we gonna do Michael or Tiffany? What do you guys want to do?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Lisa, you chose Tiffany over Michael?

[Monet X Change]

No, Lisa. Lisa said. Lisa said, do Tiffany. Do Tiffany. I was like, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, tiffany, y'. All, Tiffany. Everyone's like, yeah. And then I want to do it. And then Tiffany walks up. She was like, oh, hell no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who the fuck?

[Monet X Change]

Spare box. She's like, ah, we're gonna put a spare one of them bitches anyway, so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh.

[Monet X Change]

So Lisa. No one was like, Lisa was having a hard time finding a group, and I had suspicions of her. I was like, you know what? Let me keep this bitch closer than father Owen. You know what I mean? Her and those fucking lips, you know what I mean? So I was like, lisa, come over here. And I had her on our team. I was like, let me keep her. Ellipsa lipsa. I was like, let me keep her closer. And then, you know, it ended up being my undoing also.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I mean, the game, y', all, I'm telling you, the game is hard to play. I don't care how easy it is at home. You're watching the. You were playing the game with all the answers. You're doing A test with the answers right front of you.

[Monet X Change]

Except the secret traitor, which this season, all over threads and Twitter, people like, I think it's jam. Jam. I think it's this. People had no idea until it was real. I'm like, y', all, that's how hard it is when you're there. Like, even when y' all had the chance to figure out who a traitor was, they'll have to answer. No one can figure it out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were you there when Donna got banished?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why did y' all think it was Donna? Because.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so I rode up to the castle with Donna. It was Donna, Lisa, Rinna, Rob C. And myself going up to the castle. And then in the car, can I tell y', all, I had no idea who Donna Kelce was. I don't know this lady. But then Rob had said something about. Rob was talking to her. He was like, you know, with Taylor and, like, your son. And then I was like, taylor. So I was like, who is this lady? Who is this old white lady in here? And I was like, oh, I think this is Taylor Swift, future mama in law. And I was like, oh, Donna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kelsey.

[Monet X Change]

Got it, got it, got it. And then. So in the car, she tall. Donna's pretty tall. We're like, the same height.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. She got some big kids.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah. But Donna going up to the castle, Donna was. She was talking her ears off about housewives, about traitors, about, like, she was like, she would not stop talking after that first night. The next day in the castle, after Alan chose a secret traitor, she was in a corner, like, Tiffany Pollard,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

girl,

[Monet X Change]

sunglasses on, not talking to anyone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl sitting alone in the vip, literally.

[Monet X Change]

So that I was like, that was so. We all noticed it, how she was so quiet. Like, she just, like. It just changed how, like, her personality, because I think the weight of it was our first.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have some ideas for traders. What that I think can make it interesting. I think. Here's an idea. When Alan walks around, he only picks one trader, and then that trader gets to pick two people to join them in the tour.

[Monet X Change]

Good one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That could be really interesting, because then you actually are working with people that you want to work with. If I got to choose my traders,

[Monet X Change]

who would you have chosen?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

From my season, I would have chosen Tony Vlachos, and I would have chosen. I would have told Shoney because I think he'd be easy to throw under the bus because no one trusted him. People were like, I didn't. I don't watch. You know, I didn't watch Survivor.

[Monet X Change]

Tony had A spy shack.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On Survivor, everyone was like, do not talk to Tony. Don't look him in the eye. Don't go to a. Do. Never speak to him there. People were like, you can trust anyone before you trust. They were like, talk to the cops before you talk to Tony Vlachos. He is a cop. I think it was a firefighter. Yeah, he's a cop.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, he's a cop.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We had two cops.

[Monet X Change]

That lady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Derek.

[Monet X Change]

Derek.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Derek from Big Brother is a detective.

[Monet X Change]

Is he?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And Tony. And then we had a firefighter.

[Monet X Change]

Jeremy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jeremy.

[Monet X Change]

Jeremy's so hot, by the way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have no idea.

[Monet X Change]

I would suck to. Jeremy is way hotter than he right now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, Jeremy is. Jeremy's attractive on tv, but in person, he is. I'm sure he was easily the hottest

[Monet X Change]

person in that castle in both seasons of Survivor. He was on. I was like, this man is so hot. Jeremy is delicious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He has a gay twin brother.

[Monet X Change]

Is it. Does he. Does he look like him?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're not identical.

[Monet X Change]

Pass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But he does have. He does have a gay twin brother.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, but who would you have chosen if you were. If you were.

[Monet X Change]

If I got chosen as a trader, which, by the way, I'm telling y', all, I. You know, I'm grateful that I was just on the show. When Allen is choosing Traders and he's going around the table, first of all, he goes around easily 47,000 times, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm telling you, he's closing the circle.

[Monet X Change]

Every time he goes around, he's sitting

[Bob the Drag Queen]

there like, oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God. Wasn't me. It wasn't me. And, like, so every time I butthole a clench, I want the seat, girl. I was like, I'm gonna eat the seat up by the time we're done.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's disgusting. It was intense. It's a wet spot in the seat when you get up a snail trail.

[Monet X Change]

That's how I do every time. I was like, oh, that's my seat right there. So he didn't choose me. And I just feel like I just. My heart just vibrates. A traitor. Y' all know I am the guest, like, queen of America. I would have lied my way through that tour, through that castle anyway. I would have chosen myself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would have. You think you could have beat Rob?

[Monet X Change]

Beat Rob Roush?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause he would have turned on you.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I would have. Definitely. I would have turned on you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Rob would have turned on you. I would have turned Rob, turned on every. Rob voted out every single Traitor. You can. The fact that Eric thought he was about to go to the finale.

[Monet X Change]

Well, Eric, magic ears. He just. Eric, ears.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Enough. Magic ears. And what was it? His. The magic ears and the handwriting expert.

[Monet X Change]

The handwriting expert.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The handwriting expert with magic ears.

[Monet X Change]

The fucking notoriety extraordinaire.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Eric is cute, right?

[Monet X Change]

He is cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Eric is high. That was never a conversation being had. I mean, I think he's cute. I think he's hot.

[Monet X Change]

Cute and hot are different things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Smash.

[Monet X Change]

I think Eric is cute, not hot. Smash. Okay, So I would have chosen Portia. I would have chosen. That would have been a bad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause she got banished immediately.

[Monet X Change]

But that would be good. She wouldn't go far. You know what I mean? Portia, I would have chose. People underestimated him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was really good.

[Monet X Change]

His seasons at Big Brother, he didn't get a chance to play. I would have chosen Ian as a traitor. I think he would have killed it. And I would have chosen Adam.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not gonna lie to you. When they were union, came around and he popped, I said, who the fuck is that? I literally forgot. I was like, who? I was literally like, who is that?

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is he tiny? He looks tiny.

[Monet X Change]

He wasn't there long enough. And I wasn't there long. He was there even longer, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, I mean. But you really think you could beat Rob? Cause Rob had everyone's love.

[Monet X Change]

I do. Well, you know what people say.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, your fucking love.

[Monet X Change]

Well, that's a girl I was in a castle with. There wasn't any. Who else was I. I needed eye candy or something. No, Eric is too small for me. Rob is taller than me. He's bigger than me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How tall is Rob?

[Monet X Change]

Rob is like six one, and I'm a dainty five' ten and three quarters. So at Coltson, married girl. I mean, I need to rub on something. You know,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I found the salmon.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, okay, this is a conversation about biases, because here's my thing, right? So, like, do you think bias has a place in the term? Like, is that informing decisions at the roundtable? Do you think?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Think. I mean, I. I do think so. First of all, I naturally have a bias against really pretty people like you. Like, you're. You're irritating. Something about seeing a really pretty person, everyone likes it makes me not like you. And I'm like, I'm gonna get rid of you, because that gives you what. What you got going on is pissing me off. I'm not smitten. I don't think straight guys are hot. You gotta go, because you. You're distracting everyone. No one can think straight. You gotta get out of here. This was me versus fucking Dylan. I was like, fuck this fucking pretty boy. I can't stand this fucking pretty boy shit. He's irritating me, and he's driving me fucking crazy. You know what I mean? Did you.

[Monet X Change]

Did you ever try to vote Dylan out?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Did you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I mean, I. I don't think I could convince anyone that Dylan was a traitor, but I did think I could, which I did do successfully three episodes in a row, was convince me that Dylan was very misguided, that he didn't know what he was saying, that Dylan was full of misinformation. So I did convince them for three episodes that Dylan was like, he's just so off base. Which, for the most part, he was.

[Monet X Change]

He was. Yeah. Dylan had pretty privileger season. Who else had pretty privilege?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me. Dorinda. I had pretty privilege my whole season. No, I had charming privilege. I was very charming. I won a lot of people over. I was so irritated that y' all fucking gave Dorinda a standing ovation. I'm sorry, the standing ovation, really?

[Monet X Change]

Gig with Dorinda, it irritated me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why this thing? No, because.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, here's my thing. So before we left, Bob. Before I left, Bob was like, monet, you have to do me one solid. I was like, what? He's like, monet, you have to get Dorinda either if you were traitor, murder her, or get her banished the first roundtable. Please do one thing. And then I met Dorinda. And y', all, she just a sweet old lady. She's a nice. She's a very nice lady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So it's Donna Kelce, but y' all voted her out. Dunny Kelsey's sweeter and older. Y' all still voted her out.

[Monet X Change]

I think they're the same age.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I actually don't know.

[Monet X Change]

Donna is 77.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dorinda is not in her 70s.

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob, how old is Dorinda is? Absolutely. You think Dorinda Medley is in her 70s? She does not look like she's 70.

[Monet X Change]

Like a good 70. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dorinda Medley does not look. How old is in the medley?

[Jacob]

Dorinda Medley is 60.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

11 years, 10. Dorito Medley. You think Dorinda Medley is 70 years old?

[Monet X Change]

My concept of, like, age gets like,

[Jacob]

Donna Kelsey is 72, not 77.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, 72.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They are not the same age.

[Monet X Change]

1A.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not even. Literally, not even close. Can we play a quick game? I'm gonna name someone from your cast. You have to tell Me. How old you think they are?

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I can do that. How old is Portia Porsha Williams is 37.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, don't help.

[Monet X Change]

37.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna guess that Portia Williams is 43.

[Monet X Change]

43.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

43 years old.

[Monet X Change]

You looked it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did not look it up.

[Monet X Change]

In Atlanta.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Yeah. Cause we have billboards with Portia Williams birthdate. Portia's 43. Monet. How long ago? You think Portia Williams is younger than me?

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Yes. A resounding yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That doesn't even make sense. She was on TV when I was so young.

[Monet X Change]

But, like, housewives sometimes start when they're, like, 19. That was, like, what, 20?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Atlanta housewife has started at 19.

[Monet X Change]

22. Portia was young her first season. She was very young.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, she was older than me. Just to clear it up, how old do you think Colton is?

[Monet X Change]

Colton is. I know that Colton is 34.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was gonna say 34. 35.

[Jacob]

He's 30. He was 33 at the time of filming.

[Monet X Change]

So he's 34 now, but he's 34 now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So don't try to. Don't try to up my answer. Jacob's. At the time of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no.

[Monet X Change]

Now we're adding the time of filming as a caveat. You see?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all see how they.

[Monet X Change]

Y' all see how they stack the chips against me?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The question.

[Monet X Change]

How they stack the chips? The cast?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The question is how old is. I said how old they are, not how old they were when you came.

[Monet X Change]

Jake added the filming part.

[Jacob]

No, he was 33 at the time of filming, and now he's 34, which means you were right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Yeah. So calm down. All right, I'm gonna do two more. How old is Eric?

[Monet X Change]

Ooh. Eric Nam is 38. 37. 37. 37.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

37 years old. And last one. How old is. Who's the housewife of Dubai?

[Monet X Change]

Carolyn. Caroline.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I want to. How old is Lisa?

[Monet X Change]

Ooh. Okay, but here's the thing. How old is Lisa? Or how old is her silicone?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The answer you want to give, like,

[Monet X Change]

how old is Lisa? Holding her cheek.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lisa's watching this. You better watch it. Lisa's watching this.

[Monet X Change]

I love Lisa. I would say Lisa Rinna is 55.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lisa Rinna's in her 60s. No, Lisa Rinna is 61.

[Jacob]

Lisa Rinna is 61.

[Monet X Change]

Can I tell you something? I went to Lisa's. She had a book thing at her home for her book.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her 21st birthday party.

[Monet X Change]

A book party for her book coming out, and she had this, like, beautiful she has this beautiful home in the hills. Whatever. And I remember. Remember my. Which you didn't come to. I booked an Airbnb experience for my. I did an Airbnb experience for my birthday. My 33rd birthday in Malibu. And you didn't come to that. Do you want to answer why I didn't come to that? It was a very beautiful home.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You probably booked it when I was out of town.

[Monet X Change]

No, you were in town.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not true.

[Monet X Change]

It was in town. It was a very beautiful home up in Malibu, overlooking, like, the ocean. I invited. Kim came. Naomi came. A bunch of folk came. And it was sickening. It was hot. And you were one of my. One of my. My best friend that didn't show up. Do you want to explain yourself?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's something you did, you know, it's something you did. You're doing a bit. It's something you did. Like. Like when you and Andy had your fucking engagement party and you booked it when I was out of town. It was something like that. What was the day? Look at what I was doing this day. What was the date?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wait, for the engagement party?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, your. This thing you did.

[Monet X Change]

It was February. It was actually. No, it was like March 3rd. I don't remember the exact date. It was your birthday. 22.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I was on tour of Madonna.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, first of all, y' all did like 90 something shows. You couldn't take a show off to

[Bob the Drag Queen]

come to my birthday?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I don't understand.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Mon. You think Madonna, my friend Monet is. And she'll be like, oh, the one.

[Monet X Change]

See, he's not your friend.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm your.

[Monet X Change]

I'm your. I'm your. Your platonic life partner, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The answer is no, Monet. Madonna's not giving out sick leaves, so I'm sure you booked it, because Monet loves to book things when I'm out of town.

[Jacob]

March 3, 2022.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

March 3, 2022.

[Jacob]

Yeah, you weren't doing anything. You had a screening for the Nubia premiere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, what was I doing? Wait, what happened?

[Jacob]

You had a meeting at 12:30 and then the screening for the new beer premiere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I was in New York City. When did we meet, Rob?

[Jacob]

A black queer town hall meeting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it 2022?

[Monet X Change]

You started in May. So do you want. Do you want to make this up?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When was it? 2022. I was rehearsing for Madonna. I was in New York City.

[Monet X Change]

May, 2022.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I was rehearsing for Madonna.

[Jacob]

No, this is March.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

March, April, May. That I was still there.

[Jacob]

No, because we did the Health Kitchen VIP dining experience on March 2nd. So we were in LA.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's when we did. Oh, we had a gig. We had a gig.

[Jacob]

Let's clear it up.

[Monet X Change]

Are we going to do an Airbnb experience for your birthday? Probably.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. I mean, I'm not. I would say. I'm not planning my birthday. I am not planning my birthday.

[Monet X Change]

You listen to me. And. And the Firm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the Firm. Okay. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Was there a challenge or a mission on ours, on my season that you thought that you would turn out?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I gotta be honest. Can I be brutally honest?

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't love the missions.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I love the missions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why you clapping?

[Monet X Change]

But the missions are so fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, just give us the money.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so. Okay, wait, hold up, hold up. So y' all want to watch an hour of people just talking around a castle? No, the missions break it up. It, like, gives, like. No, if the missions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The only thing that could change it, in my opinion, would be if the missions were able to give you advantage in the game. No, listen to what I'm saying. The mission should not be just by getting money. The mission should give you information. The mission should give you the opportunity to find out who's the faithful. It should allow you to inspect someone's alignment. The mission should allow you to bestow immunity. It should allow you. That's what mission shouldn't be about.

[Monet X Change]

Money shields are immunity in some way,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

but it's not enough. It's not enough. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I. I do think that a show can do a better job of, like, giving the faithfuls more tools to, like, help them, like, find traitors, as in games like Werewolf and Mafia. Like, there are roles like you have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They did in the uk, brother. They don't. They don't. They're not playing for money. And then when they play their games, the games are. Yeah. The game is for. It's for power. It's never, ever for money.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I do think the show can do a better job.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They make it seem like it's for the money when they. When they play the game.

[Monet X Change]

What is the price package? Is it a million dollars, too?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have no clue. I really feel like someone broke this down online. I think it's true. There is actually no incentive for faithfuls to find traders because there will always be more. There will always be. If you catch every trader, they will just keep multiplying and multiplying and multiplying. It's better to find out who's a trader. Let them stay, make sure you have more faithfuls in the end. And then just. And then just vote them out at the fire pit. There is no. Because if you. If you're good at catching traders, you'll be murdered. If you. If people know that you can find traders, you're not going to live through the night. There is no incentive to find traders.

[Monet X Change]

No, there is. Because. No, because finding traitors, like, let's say, like, I find out you're a traitor because people, you know, you found out

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lisa was a traitor, you died. Becca, Jeremy found out Danielle was a traitor, he died. You don't want to let people know you find out because the word's gonna get back to the traitors.

[Monet X Change]

Can I finish my thought?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of course.

[Monet X Change]

I do think that in finding out who the traitors are, it is like. Cause what I was saying, if people, like, came for him. But I think it was a smart gameplay. I think Colton going up to Lisa being like, I know you're a traitor. I'm gonna say like, I think. Cause that wasn't. To me, that was an interesting game. Cause otherwise, what, you keep them and try to banish her and then they're gonna, to your point, add more traders if you know she is like, I know you're a trader. Don't say my name. Don't. Don't murder me and I'll protect you. I think that was a smart gameplay. I think that's what you do with that information.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think. I'm not saying there's no. There's no incentive to fight. There's no incentive to banish traders. You can find out who they are. The point is to find out who they are. But there's no good side. There's no benefit to actually banishing them because they will just keep multiplying. So, yes, find out who they are. But there needs to be an incentive for people to actually find the traders as. Banish them as opposed to just being like. Because then they just. They just keep adding more and more and more and more and more than Canada.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wait, Sway Canada. Every time they manage a trader, they add $10,000 to the price.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And it's so. They've already. They've already figured it out.

[Monet X Change]

That's good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The price should be more too.

[Monet X Change]

I think 100%.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, the price for Drag Race should be more girl. Do you know, I watched a show called I can't recommend it and I wish I could get the time back. I watched all two seasons of the Beast games. It's a terrible show. It is. Imagine Squid game. A challenge. But horrible. Like, horrible. And the prize for that show, the first season. Spoiler alert. $10 million.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The prize for season one of Beast Games was $10 million.

[Monet X Change]

How does Mr. Beast have so much money?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. Beastables, Beast Bites, Feastable. I don't know what the fuck it is.

[Monet X Change]

I have no clue.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I have no clue.

[Monet X Change]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But they giving out 10.

[Monet X Change]

And draggers are giving Brett Draggers. Like, here's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Here's a.

[Monet X Change]

Two sticks of a chewing gum. And here's some hopes and dreams. And a RuPaul thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And a RuPaul chocolate bar.

[Monet X Change]

Meanwhile, in Drag Race, the queens are spending some of them, like, down payments on homes to fund their packages to do the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Some of us don't need to do that and win.

[Monet X Change]

And some of you look like it, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like winners. I agree.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, I agree.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I dominate the. Oh.

[Monet X Change]

What else? I was gonna say. So I think a la the Squid Game show, when they murder people on Traders. Squid Game show, when they murder people on Traitors, it should look like the murder, you know, in Squid Game, like, you're popped with the blood. Like, you know, they should, like, slit someone's throat. Like it should be. I want.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want a little more.

[Monet X Change]

A little more drama to it. You don't think so?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it could be dramatic. But these. Yeah, I think it could be cute. Maybe they could build some story like that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Listen, we are almost done here. We are almost. That we are not. I. Aw.

[Monet X Change]

We can talk about. Listen, this is our favorite show. We can talk about this shit forever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My favorite show is RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My favorite show is RuPaul's Drag race.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. You wanna. Okay. You're not on RuPaul's payroll anymore.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is my favorite show.

[Monet X Change]

It is. Even though this season is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway,

[Monet X Change]

it started out so good. Now it's kinda like I'm like, am I just becoming a jaded Drag Race fan or is it reality? Do you feel the season is still strong?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think this is a great season.

[Monet X Change]

Right. It started out, it was so promising, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But when's All Stars? It's crazy. It's not a great season.

[Monet X Change]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Is Traders my new favorite show? Maybe. I don't know. I do think. I do think this season of the Traders was. Was more exciting. This season of Drag Race, for sure.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my. I don't have time to talk about my favorite. My thing I want to talk about.

[Jacob]

What the dumb thing I did pad for time. So you have a minute if you want to go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. I'll give you my premise, my thesis. Okay, so everyone's calling more, and we'll

[Monet X Change]

do a part two on another episode.

[Jacob]

45 seconds.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone's. Everyone's calling more dumb and saying that she should feel bad that she's dumb. And I was saying being dumb is not a. Being dumb doesn't make you. I don't think we should vilify people for being dumb. Sometimes you're just dumb. There's nothing. There's nothing wrong with being dumb. There's nothing wrong with being clueless. I agree. Being dumb is not a bad thing. Some folks just kind of dumb.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think. I don't think we'll say more is bad. I don't think they're saying dumb and she's a bad person. I think that people are frustrated watching more because I'll tell you this quickly. I have five seconds. So we managed Portia the first night. We walk into the kitchen afterwards, everyone's upset. Portia's gone. We're all like, oh, my God. We first night of Faithful. We all sitting in the kitchen, and Maura goes, so are there gonna be banishments every night? She had no idea that there were banishments every day in the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you do it with an Irish accent?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is there going to be a banishment every night? Oh, top of the morning, Taya. They're gonna be a banishment every night. All right, we gotta go.

[Monet X Change]

She's Irish, not Jamaican.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, thank you all so much for joining us.

[Monet X Change]

Thank y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

And thank you to Airbnb for hosting this fierce, fierce, fierce experience. It's been so fun. Just as sweetest Saint Lucia, thank y'. All. Have a good night.