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Oh, my God. That intro is fierce. That was fierce. I now am, like, leaning way more bobblehead than monetation right after that. Right after that.
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I mean, it's always been a little more bobblehead than monation, but now it's much more because old friends gold, New friends silver. Wait, old friends gold. Yeah.
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New friends over there.
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Well, we were just discussing that. We are low key ru music Stans.
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Oh, yes. We were singing.
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I came in from out of space Just like a planet called 808 in the galaxy. Galaxy of fog where the robots grab the tape. I have this plan. If we had to lip sync to that song on season eight, I had a whole choreography set together.
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I believe it.
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I was gonna do a coffee grinder. I was gonna do the worm.
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I feel like you probably wanted to lip sync every episode just to do it.
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I had a plan, but, like, you
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didn't want to be at the bottom.
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No, I don't want to be at the bottom. But I had a plan for every lip sync. You remember that when I used to hide stuff, I had, like, paint in my titties.
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Like, even when you weren't in the bottom, you would have your good underneath Just in case. Just in case.
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I love it because you lip synced once against Betty.
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Against Betty. Yes.
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That was your one. And I did once against Derek.
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I have to say, I am so baby excited for Betty this season.
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Baby. I wish she was in the first bracket, because y' all don't know. Acid Betty is not a fucking gang.
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She really is not.
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But she is a sickening fucking queen. She is a.
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She really is.
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But she's really lovable.
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She's, like, so herself. And that's what you can't dock her for, because she's not putting on. She is, like, serious. This is serious.
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And the truth is, when it comes to sewing, she might be top two or three in Drag Race herstory.
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I believe it. Like, so it's like the fact that she has a brain that is producing something that we've never seen before, and we're never going to see it again at that.
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Visually speaking, there is no one like Acid Betty.
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No.
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But she's not in this bracket. We are talking about bracket one. Six Queens. How do you feel about the new format?
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As a contestant, this would intrigue me because it's, like, a lot less commitment. You're not having to get ready for 12 runways in two weeks like we did back in the day, or. And it's very, like. It's. I thought it was gonna be a lot more like, lip sync Lalaparuza performance heavy, which I. I would say yes to that. I didn't realize there was going to be challenges mixed in and everything like that. But, uh, this is, like, a fun group of girls. I love the fact that Aja's back on television.
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She is such good. Let's get into Aja. So Aja says that she isn't really the villain, but she always. People always, like, accuse her of being the villain on tv, which I think Aja's only really one villainous moment was like, when she. Her. When her jealousy got the better. Better of her. And she was, like, coming for Valentina.
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Yeah.
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Other than that, she hasn't done anything villainous.
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She also. It was her and Valentina.
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When her yelled together better friends. She came for Valentina.
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No, no, no. In the reunion as well. When Valentina.
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No, but everyone was against Valentina.
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But Aja was the one who started it.
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But to be fair, everyone agreed with Aja. Like, literally everyone was like, yay.
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I think where people think that fan favorite is crazy.
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I think Pepman is the one who yelled yay. Fan favorite.
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She was.
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Yeah.
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Everyone hated her that moment.
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I have Never had a problem with Valentina.
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Oh, never. I love her so much.
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But her sisters, I think it was
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the whole, like, starting drag being two months of starting drag and it being a lie, whatever. But I think people have villainized Aja based on her after the show online.
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Yeah, that when she was a real
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ass rapper and then fighting with Candy.
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Then when she quit drag. People hate when the girls quit drag. I know people hate when the girls quit drag. A nigga can't quit a job. God damn. I can't quit my job.
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Can I breathe?
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This is crazy. There is no other place where you're like, you quit your fucking job except, like, Kamala Harris when. When she. When she was like, can I get a break after the most stressful time of my life? Where the are you? We didn't want you. To be clear. We did not want you. Where are you?
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Right. Oh, my gosh.
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Kamala, she watches.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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She's a big fan.
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Well, I mean, what else is she doing not being president.
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Thanks. 48% of of of voters. Actually, less than 25% of voters voted for Donald Trump. That's whole episode. 48% of the votes went to Trump, but less than 25% of eligible. Eligible voters voted for Trump.
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You know my views. This is not rivalry. This is watch.
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This is watchery. This is watchery. This is watchery. Wow.
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Joke.
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She really listens to the show. Can we go on to Deja Skye? I love this queen. I really love her.
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What do you love about her?
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You're silent.
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What do you love about her?
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I think she. Okay. I follow her on TikTok. I think her makeup is just stunning.
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Her makeup is amazing.
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I think she's a good performer. I think her outfits look good. I like her. She's not always hilarious, but she's funny enough to me.
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Yeah.
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How do you feel about Deja sp?
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I could agree with you. I think. I don't know if it's necessarily her. Her makeup or it's her face or what the combo is there, but, like, she always looks perfect. The face is always, like, it looks
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airbrushed and she looks like that in real life, y'. All.
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No, she. Yeah, she does.
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Like, it's not all Photoshop or Bitbot. Boop. No one uses Photoshop anymore. Now everyone's just doing the apps.
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Yeah, back.
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Back in my day, you had to know how to use Adobe.
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But I will say, I think that Deja, she comes across like she wants you to want to like her so
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bad affects the ability to like Her.
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The gravitas of her as a drag queen.
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Well, she just admitted today, she's like, I didn't.
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I never.
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Like, I never believe in myself. So she needs you to believe in. She needs you to believe in her because she doesn't believe in herself.
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But I Lowkey also feel like when I hear that, it's like, save space for compliment back. Like, she's, like, waiting for that back.
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Yeah. Because she needs it. Because she doesn't believe in herself.
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And I'm just saying, as I don't like my drag queens to have that kind of.
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That's valid. That's valid.
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I don't want, like, my star on stage to be like, do you like.
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I mean, if RuPaul did that, it would look weird, right?
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Yeah. You step in the room, command attention.
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If Lady Gaga hit the stage of Coachella and was like, are you guys mad at me?
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You guys into that one?
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Are you guys mad at me? Can you put your paws up, please? It would be very weird.
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I hope that Deja has that trajectory on this season of All Stars.
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Yeah, that would be amazing. Y' all can't see Naomi's feet, but I want you to know that they are. All I'm saying is you should go home and sit in a director's chair and. And see if your feet touch the ground. Naomi has her. Her. The flats of her feet. I don't mean, like, her toes. Find a director's chair.
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She's wearing heels so that.
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Yes, but y', all, you know, when we sit in the director chair, your legs are swinging her. Her knees are on the ground. Let's go on to Irene the alien. The name change. I guess she has a branding thing.
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Yeah, because she said that it was like, an old lady name. Is that what Irene Dubois?
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It was just her and obituaries.
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Yeah. I mean, that is a very old lady name.
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It doesn't seem like her. Irene Alen does read better.
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Yeah. It's like, better branding.
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And I didn't know her last name was Dubois anyway, so it won't be a harsh shift for me. Like, it was hard for me to stop saying Trinity the Tuck.
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Right.
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I had to be like, no, Trinity Taylor.
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And it was hard to stop going from, like, Monique to Mo.
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Yeah. So I call her Trinity Tuck now. But I used to be like, Trinity Taylor, but she's like, no, it's now. I thought, was there drama in the Tuck in the Taylor family?
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Oh, I don't know. I think she doesn't want to. I think she wanted to Be known for her. Like, pussy.
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Yeah. She just wanted to rebrand and like Trinity, the Tuck felt more like her brand and her thing. Okay.
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Shout out to the Tuck to the Taylors. House of the tuck. Irene got the worst placement in Drag Race herstory. She's the only Queen with a 16th place placing.
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That's crazy.
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Which.
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So. So she has no reason to say no.
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Absolutely no. This is like a gold mine for her to go back.
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I mean, although there are 18 girls, so she could have been eight,
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there
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was a small chance she could have been 18th place, but there's no 18th place.
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I mean, do you think that they all. I'm assuming they all knew that no one was going to go home when they said yes to the season.
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I. I reckon. Is there anyone you would rather see? Is there anyone that you like? Not rather, but, like, is there anyone you like? I wish they could have been on their season. Or, like, I'm ready for my All Stars moment with, like, for me, Layla McQueen.
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Oh, yes, Layla.
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I don't think she'd do it, but I would like to see Peppermint back on Drag Race. I still think it's crazy that Porkchop has not been given a second shot.
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Right. I mean, she's been in so many seasons as a cameo, but, like, it's time.
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Low key.
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Stacy Lane.
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Stacy Lane would be great to have back.
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I'd love to see Carmen.
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Carmen would be great to have back too. Yeah.
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Like, that would be insane.
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Isn't she one of the girls fighting with Ruth?
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I think so.
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It's like, her, Willem and Courtney are like, the ones who, like, fight with R. I don't even.
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I mean, g. I don't know.
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Does Gia fight with R?
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But, like, does anyone actually fight with R? I think it's just more.
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I would Got into an actual screaming match with RuPaul.
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That's right. That's right.
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Yeah, like, famously.
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But I think it's normally just like you have sour feelings about your time on the show and you say something publicly, and then it's like, RuPaul versus this person.
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Can I give you a hot take? Some of the girls who have sour feelings about Drag Race are kind of needy.
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Say their names.
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Like, some of the girls who are like, she didn't hang out with me. Okay.
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Oh, that was weird. That was weird. Maybe she didn't even text me.
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I'm like, this may shock you guys, but Alan Cumming doesn't text me.
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Right.
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Have not spoken to me since I left the. Since I was very unceremoniously banished from the castle.
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I mean, I think that is, like, you probably had the idea of show business before you even joined show business, you know? And I think these people who are, like, not from a big city maybe. I don't know if that's, like, a good excuse.
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I mean, I feel different. But I also text RuPaul every day. Let's go on to. Oh, I will say, I know we're not talking about interest looks here, because we already covered it, but, like, I will say this. I forgot to say, when Ira was coming out, I felt like her. Her interest look kept getting worse the more she took off of it. Like, it. It started off really nice, and then it ended up as a Leah's hard.
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Her, like.
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Yeah, the tips part was fine, but then when she took off the skirt of the gown, I was like, now you're just wearing a Leah's hard.
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Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. But I kind of do enjoy with Irene that, like, yes, breastplate is, like, part of her character. But it's not like Jimbo, you know, It's. It's like she's not really relying on them too hard.
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Oh, Jimbo's like. Like, it's a lot.
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Yeah. And I do like that Irene is just like.
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That's Jimbo's thing. And honestly. But Jimbo does have other stuff. Like, Jimbo's had moments that are, like, so great, that have nothing to do with the breastplate.
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Yeah.
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But it's also not apologizing for titties. How Corey King was when she did the lipstick and showed her tits, but then was covering them up.
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Right.
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What the fuck was that?
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Oh, we're gonna see so many interesting tits this episode.
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Oh, we are. What's the next episode? Wait, which one's Tits and Slit? This is Tits.
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Tits and Slip.
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World Wonder. Fucking fucked us up and did two
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at a. I know.
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So if y' all see us in the same outfits next episode, Mind your business. Mind your fuck. Just know that we filmed them on separate days. We just put on the exact same clothes, sat in the exact same spots. Um, let's go on to Phoenix from Atlanta, Georgia.
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I like.
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So I haven't seen Phoenix Dragons in a long time.
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I.
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As a person. She's so sweet.
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Yeah.
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She helped me get a location for my first comedy special ever. Every time I'm in Atlanta, she's so fucking nice. Phoenix is like. She's like a talent manager in. In. In Atlanta. She's like a drag.
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Yeah. She runs shit over there.
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She really does. I'm wondering about. But I will say, like, so far, I'm not gagging.
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Yes. I mean, I don't think she's also gagging for herself either. And that she's not. I don't think she has the same thing that Deja has, but I do feel like she was so not unprepared for it. But it's like, how are you unprepared after? Like, you have so much. You have so much.
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If Lydia B. Collins is more prepared than you, that's crazy. Also, is her ass pumped?
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I believe.
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She have a fat ass.
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No. I believe. I thought she was a Florida girl. Based on her. The visual aesthetic, the visual, the voice, everything. I was like, okay, she's Florida. But like, no. Yeah. She's seems like a pumped up princess. And I have not really worked with her in Atlanta.
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We never. I mean, she. She's helped me out a few times with stuff. Yeah. When I tell you she is so fucking nice, so amazing, so professional, so friendly. I really love her as a queen, but I don't think she even watches this stuff. But if you are watching fitness, like, I gotta keep it a buck.
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I think she watches.
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I gotta keep it a buck.
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I think everyone watches you, Bob. Like, I can see. I can see it in the numbers. Everyone watches.
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One time, my aunt was. My aunt was, like, at some gay bar in New Mexico. She's like, I'm here with the queen, Fufu Lechoux. Do you know her? And I said, no, Aunt Deborah. I don't know Fufu Lechou. She goes, she knows you. And I said, I'm gonna tell you something. I don't know every drag queen in the world, but every drag queen in the world knows me, honey. And that song. Okay, pussycat. C Mama. God, yes. Served. Diva. Down, honey. Boots. Chapel roll. Lady Gaga.
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Close your eyes. Exhale.
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Feel your body relax. And let go of whatever you're carrying today.
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While I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class, I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh, they're so fast.
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And breathe.
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1-800-contacts. Let's go on to Olivia Lux. Do you know who Kim Fields is?
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Yes.
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She looks like Kim Fields.
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She does look like Kim Fields.
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If she was like Kim Fields is my aunt. I'd be like 100%
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now that she's. She's dropped a quite a bit, right? Has she? I don't know if she's made it part of her personality.
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Shots fired to Mistress. Shots fired to Ginger. Shots fired to Deja. Shots have been fired, honey, Because Olivia was, like, a little thick.
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Yeah, I don't think she's talking.
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Deja was fat. Olivia was like a lil thick, you know? I mean, a little like, oh, please cut this out.
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I mean, they're still. They're all still plus size.
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We are not cutting that out. That has.
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I mean, but like, no, I mean, I don't really care, but like. Yeah, the whole body thing. I know. It's like a feeling. It has to be a feeling like, I know you feel so much better.
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I'm screaming.
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Does it make it a part of your personality is like.
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I imagine. Yeah. I mean, we'll. We'll get into it later because. Because Deja had a whole thing about. Because I follow. I actually follow Deja very closely online. She did my makeup one time. Here's a. Here's a video of her, a picture of my makeup when she did it for me. Right, Jay? It's there, right, Jay? Right, Jay? I don't look crazy, do I, Jay?
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As a watcher, I feel like it has gotten tight.
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Much better.
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Yeah, Jay, it's very tight.
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Shout out to Jay Defeo. J. Defeo is doing the Lords, but the fact that y' all have these episodes is a miracle. Jay, I love you so much. Um, but she looks really good. I didn't realize this look was supposed to be a nod to her other stuff. Bosco is so sexy.
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She's so hot.
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Would you top Bosco? I would top Bosco.
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I would let her top me.
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Gang. Gang.
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For sure. Like, she turns me on like that.
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She is. She does get very dumb. Mommy. Yeah, it's the whole burlesque thing. It's like her and Violet have that dumb, like, I'll step on you. Like, crush me. Crush my nuts.
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But in the same breath, I would fudge Violet, not let Violet fudge me.
A
Yeah, who's going to let Violet off them?
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I don't think Violet wants to.
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I don't think Violet is topping in these streets.
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Yeah.
A
Yeah. But I think Bosco would probably top.
B
I think Bosco could, like, get me into bed just with her words, too. Like, if it was like, love is blind and she was behind the wall, like, I would fall for Bosco and
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I wouldn't Be doing. I don't normally do this with women's bodies, but she's. She's made a point of it. Her tits are so beautiful.
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Whatever research. Whatever Surge did that did the damn thing.
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Like, they're immaculate breasts. Beautiful, beautiful titties.
B
She strikes me as someone who did her, like, due diligence.
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Oh, yeah. And it do. Do diligence, honey. But I do miss the demon thing now she's doing. She says she's kind of rebranding from the demon stuff. I like the demon thing. The demon burlesque. Girly.
B
Yeah. She's multifaceted.
A
So let's. Let's go over the rules of this season. So no one's going home. The three with the most points goes to the semifinals from the Thing. So everyone is guaranteed three episodes. Every girl is guaranteed at least three episodes. And then the top all star will win $200,000. And then the top two queens each week will get two points. And if you win the lip sync, you will get an additional one point and you get a $10,000 tip. And then an additional four points are given out from the girls who are in the bottom. And if you're not in the top, you are in the bottom. At first, it sounded kind of complicated, like I was playing Dungeons and Dragons again. But actually, after a while, it just made perfect sense.
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You got it.
A
Yeah.
B
I think this is a really good way to like, make it actual performance based and competitor based.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, there is no really, like, sneaky way of adding crazy.
A
Well, there's a little social game, so there's a little social game to it with. With the. With the MVQ points.
B
Yeah.
A
And honestly, whoever. Whatever producer came up with this. This is the best idea y' all have for All Stars in a hot minute. It really. But I only think my only fear is, like, you. Because you're adding so many more queens, you really run the risk of exhausting your All Star pool.
B
Yes.
A
So if they do this and if they do it again next year, that is, what, 36 queens in two years?
C
And the verse, the worlds.
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And the verse, the worlds. And then also bringing random girls back on normal seasons.
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Yeah. But this is now I think we Cornbread.
A
I want cornbread back.
B
Oh, I want cornbread back, too.
A
Yeah.
B
I feel like she's also a Had sour words or something kind of thing.
A
I don't know. Well, she kept being like, I'll only come back to bring me on a regular season. Just do the All Stars, bitch. Like, just do. All right, girl. Just do all Stars, let your ego not. I don't know if it's ego. What it is, but just go back. And she's like, I don't even wanna come back when I do a regular season. It's too late now.
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Also, I think they asked her for, like verse the world.
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And not even like, I would never.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
Let me tell you something right now. Any queens, if you're being offered versus the world, say no. We have to. We have to stop them from even offering as an option. If you all just keep saying no, they'll stop offering it. There's no way you would ever convince. I don't. And I know I won drag race. We all know.
B
We all know.
A
But if. Bitch, if I was Alyssa Summers, you could not convince me to duo versus the world.
B
Yeah. What about global?
A
No, even worse. Even worse.
B
See, for me, it's just like, I just want. I'll do it if Rue's there, I reckon. And that's how my mind space would go, but like the whole viewing and
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you would not accept it. Versus the world. Stop lying.
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What if the price is a million dollars?
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Okay, I'm back in anime.
B
What if it's 500,000?
A
No, what if it's a.
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What if it's a four episode season?
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Four episodes. I'm back. And I'm back in. So we get the main. The first challenge. They're doing these hair band looks. These hair band rocker chick looks. And writing verses to a song is giving our season.
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Oh, my God.
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Lay chicken wings.
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The winning team.
A
Y' all didn't win.
B
You did.
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I still think that me, Thorgy, and Betty were low key. A little. A little.
B
A little robbed street me.
A
We should have at least been. We should have at least been second place.
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I think it was probably.
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Well, we were because the other team was in the ball.
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I think Lorde had a hand in the editing.
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Maybe it was what it was.
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I think that's what it was.
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Y' all did. Then Robbie won that. Won that episode.
B
She did.
A
Y' all ate, though. I remember Kim. That was the first time I saw Kim in a human hair in a human color.
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A wig. And it felt crazy to you?
A
I thought it looked stunning.
B
I mean, you think red is a human color wig?
A
Wow. Shots fired at the redheads. Shots fired at Irene. But yeah. So when we get in the workroom, all of the. All of the queens trying to make these sports references are really killing me. I get it. We're in these brackets. They're all being like, I'm the home Run the mvq. Touchdown.
B
Oh, wait, that's actually.
A
Yeah. Yeah. So Aja and Olivia are both Mugler girlies.
B
Miyake.
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Miyake. Mugler. Irene and Bosco are both from Seattle, which leaves at one point Deja and Phoenix start trying to, like, develop a bond. But it is. Does not seem to be giving.
B
Yeah.
C
Anything.
B
Yeah. I mean, I think that they. Having a best friend. I don't know if it hinders you or if it doesn't. Like, would you. I think that I would love to see, obviously, you and Monet compete against or compete with each other. Same with Kim and I, I feel like would be really fun.
A
Or I would have loved to compete with Monet. I mean. You competed with Monet?
B
Yes.
A
I mean, I would love to compete with Monet for sure. I do feel, however, like, I think Monet would try to do me dirty before I would do her dirty, and that would piss me off.
B
Just for the plot.
A
Yeah. Monet would be like, heh, heh, heh.
B
Yeah.
A
But she would never get the upper hand on me, and that's the issue. And then it would just become the petty games. And baby, I can. When you go low, I do a dip and go to hell. Like, I'll become a monster. You know what I mean? And then everyone. Then everyone said, Bob took it too far. Now all of a sudden, Bob takes it too far. Oh, okay.
B
Sure. I. On lonely island.
A
So Aja, they're all writing. I'm not concerned about Aja. I knew AJ Was going to write a sickening verse. I already. I've been done. Knew that. This is Irene's first walkthrough with RuPaul ever. She's never done a walkthrough with RuPaul. And she makes Ru laugh, which is good. She got a cackle out of Ru.
B
Yes.
A
Which is fantastic. And Irene, obviously has a lot to prove. Deja talks about her complication with her weight loss surgeon in Mexico. And I followed it online. When it happened, she was like. It was bad. Yeah, it was like, bad, bad. And I have a friend who one time went to, like, somewhere to get his eyes. The color of his eyes changed and it went bad too. Like, he went. He.
B
Oh, my gosh.
A
He basically. He almost went blind from it.
B
Crazy.
A
Isn't that kind of crazy?
B
I mean, it is kind of crazy to voluntarily go somewhere to have something major done that you do not speak the language, period. That could be.
A
Well, I imagine the doctor must have spoke English, but maybe not every single person in the hospital did. You know What?
B
I mean, I guess so. You're right. But. And I mean, there is a huge mark market in, like, travel, plastic surgery. The fear I would have is not being able to, like, I get home and I have a complication. Not be like, yeah, can I come in?
A
Let's say you were gonna go get a facelift and you had saved up $150,000. And then your doctor in the States are like, it's Gonna cost you $125,000 to get this facelift. And then a doctor in Mexico is like, I'll do it for 50. Here's some pictures. Would you save the hundred thousand, the $75,000? Cause that's a deep discount.
B
I don't think so.
A
How about get your teeth done? Although you have stunning teeth.
B
We both do.
C
Ting.
A
To quote what's her name? Jill Sparkles. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would just wait and save more money.
B
I think so, too. Especially when, I mean, you're using this scenario. Your face.
A
Yes. You're a fucking.
D
The.
A
The thing.
B
But also your body is also just as important.
A
Yeah, maybe my. Maybe I got, like, Monet's FFS surgery. Her foot feminization surgery. I would get a discount on that, actually. No, I would not. You know she got her foot done. Yes, her foot. Just one. Y' all don't know that. She doesn't say that. She's got one. She has, like, one big ugly foot, and then another less ugly foot.
B
Wow.
A
So during the walkthrough, I talked about when she quit drag to figure out the difference between who she was, the drag queen and as a woman. And that's what the people had this huge issue with. Like, people were like, they were mad at her.
B
They really were mad at her, which
A
they were mad at. Lala Ri. Are they.
B
Is she still quit drag?
A
No, she's back. Guess who back. They all come back. People are mad at me because I don't go everywhere in drag. People are, like, mad at me that I'm not always in drag all the time. I'm like, guys, someone commented on a post that I made because I did a photo dump and the last photo was me in drag. And someone said, do you still do drag? I'm like, bitch, I'm doing drag in this fucking. In this photo dub. Yes, I still do drag. Do people think I'm not a drag queen anymore because I don't go everywhere in drag all the time?
B
It's literally in your name.
A
It's in my name. I do. I do drag. I did a whole fucking tour in drag.
B
And don't get it twisted. This is just a special occasion. I really got you in drag today.
A
It took very little convincing.
B
No convincing at all.
A
Dan was like, what do you think about if I did it in drag? I said, you know what? Count me in.
B
First app. First app in drag.
A
I'll be back.
B
I love. But I mean, in episode two.
A
Well, again, different day.
B
Different day. Completely different day. Completely different feat. All that jazz. Yeah. Um.
A
But, yeah, I mean, I don't have any. Any problem with anyone going to figure themselves out. You know what I mean?
B
And that totally makes sense. Like, you're going through, like, a huge decision, change, realization about yourself. Like, drag is a little silly, and that's not.
A
And it can be. And drag is really silly. But also, drag race is taxing. It is a. Being a drag, being a rude girl is emotionally taxing. You are. You suddenly become a celebrity and you get no media training.
B
Yeah. It's kind of crazy.
A
I love when you drool. One time we were, like, in. I don't know where we were.
B
Dc.
A
You were like, black, like, jet black lip gloss. And she was just looking at me and had no clue. Just full muck mouth, like, dripping. She's like. She's like, bob. And I was like, you are drooling. I only pawed with the girls who drool, honey.
B
It's because I got my lips done in Mexico.
A
There it is. Where'd you get your lips done?
B
Here in Beverly Hills.
A
And is it. Is this the same one for the first time?
B
Yeah. I haven't done them in, like, five
A
years, but they still look good.
B
Oh, thank you.
A
So that's not. Do they have some that go away? Why are people getting them done every year if they. If they. If they stay?
B
I think I just went ham with them, so it's just a lot of scar tissue now.
A
It looks good.
B
I've been told they feel very luxurious,
A
like when kissing or when. Like. Or when, like.
B
Ooh, just kissing.
A
Oh. So you don't get any good feedback from your bull job.
B
Oh, I thought you were saying your ass eating game. Is it.
A
Is it. Is it bad?
B
No, I think my ass eating game is great. I think my bulldog game is great, too.
A
Who do you think will win a dick? No one's ever taken me up.
B
I think you can. You're a lot more passionate about it than I am. And there's only one way to find out.
A
Jacob, get over here. All right, let's. Let's. Let's move on so during rehearsal, like, Deja is a dancer and a choreographer, and you watch her online performances when she be doing the brunches, like the senior frogs over in Vegas, that girl be dancing Deja moves.
B
I think she's like a. Her past is in cheer.
A
Yeah, Like a cheer choreographer. Yeah. Irene looks like she's struggling with the choreography, and you can just see that she's, like, in her head a lot. You know what I mean? And Phoenix is fighting for her life.
B
Have you ever felt like that? When I was watching the episode, I was like, has Bob ever felt like when you're, like, so uncomfortable with something and you can, like, obviously see it, but you keep lying about it?
A
No, I would.
B
Jamal was like, are you okay? And she's like, no, I'm fine. I'm totally fine.
A
Yeah.
B
Bead of sweat, just, like, pure red.
A
I would just be honest that, like, I'm struggling.
B
Yeah. I feel like that's very you.
A
I would be like, I'm struggling. But honestly, typically speaking with choreography, I'm really a quick learner. Even when I was doing the Madonna tour, the dancers were like, wow, you learned that really quick. And I'm like, yeah, I can dance. I'm not, like, some crazy dancer. But I've just. I've always just been. I have really good hand eye coordination. I catch a ball out of nowhere.
B
You know who's the only person that's really ever made me cry via choreography?
A
Who?
B
Todrick had nothing to do with. His style of choreography was contract.
A
Oh, this is during.
B
During stars.
A
During All Stars.
B
Yeah, I just, like. It was just, like, so complicated that I was like, it looks very hard. I was just getting, like, flustered.
A
Do you remember him? And turning, like, the. What category are you on right now? I can't remember. It was like. It was like, what category are you? I literally can't even wrote it, but it looked really fudgeing hard.
B
Winning performance.
A
I mean, he's a really. He's a really, really good dancer, and he's obviously good at, you know, making very difficult fucking choreography.
B
That's the worst, though, when you're, like, not getting something. Like your body's just not letting you get it.
A
Is that for super Queen?
B
Yeah, that was for super Queen.
A
That might have been, like, the last time they used Todrick.
B
Oh, really?
A
Maybe, honestly, someone's gonna be like, nah, some. Some fans gonna be like, So due to the makeup, Phoenix is fully spiraling. Fully spiraling. Olivia is saying that she wants to align herself with Aja, but I'm like, girl, you just said you're gonna align yourself with. Then she said she wants to align herself with Deja too. So Olivia's spreading herself kind of thin here, right? Which is gonna come up later. But then she's like, well, operation Mimu Miyakumu glare is in full effect. Her and Aja are going to be a unit. But I don't. In the first episode, I've not seen this unity.
B
But then also, it's like the Aja, Deja and Olivia are like Malaysia station or something like that. The.
C
Is that.
B
Is that what they were calling it, Malaysian station?
A
Are they Malay? Are they Asian? Oh, wait, Aja's a little Asian. Malaysian is their names.
B
Oh, oh, I don't know.
A
No melanin.
B
Yeah, but they were calling it, like, Malaysia.
A
No, like melanin unity or melanin station. Melanin alliance, something like that. Yeah, clear. It was melanin, not Malaysia.
B
No, but they were saying that.
A
They were calling it something they said, like the melon. The melanin unity or the melanin alliance.
B
In my heart, I could be wrong.
A
They were saying. They were saying, these white. We have melanin. Everyone has melanin. But obviously, the darker you are, the more melanin you have.
B
Is that an alliance for you?
A
I've never had to do a show with an alliance, but that's not true. I did Traitors. And my one alliance was with a black woman. Yeah, but she stabbed me.
B
But it wasn't. Cause she was black.
A
No, it kind of was. She remembered my mom. And I was like, yeah, but then I also. But we also got. We also, like, got rid of one of the black guys, Jeremy. But he was trying to come for us, so we had to get rid of him.
B
So it was no Malaysian station.
A
I mean, he came for us. Jeremy was like, he came for Danielle. He didn't come for me. He came for Danielle. And I was like, well, I've already aligned myself with Danielle, so you gotta go. But, yeah, so at this moment, Irene gagged Aja when she. To me, Irene gathered Aja when Aja was like, if anyone tries, she goes, girl, you look crazy. And then Aja was like. And Aja was acting like she wasn't gagged, but I feel like she. She gathered, in my opinion.
B
She who? You think Irene won that?
A
Yeah, I do.
B
Oh, interesting.
A
You think Aja won.
B
I feel like the way that Irene was coming back at Aja made Irene seem almost like a fan.
A
Like, well, it did look like she
B
was, like, quoting things about her Season and, like, bringing up things on her season. And, like, it was.
A
There was. I mean, it was obvious they were joking around, which is so funny because then Bosco says, with drag queens, it's not serious until it is serious. And then it's so far gone, you don't realize that it's gotten serious. Which is crazy, because that's exactly what happens to Bosco in the next episode. That was the most awkward, uncomfortable. We'll get there. I don't want to jump the gun. So, main stage, Ice Spice is the guest judge. Weird choice.
B
Ah, yeah.
A
For the rock challenge.
B
True. Very true.
A
I wish I had. What's her name? Amy Lee from Evanescence.
B
Sure. Oh, yeah.
A
Or, like, don't grab me.
B
I like Hayley Williams.
A
Do you know any Evanescence song?
B
I know that one.
A
Okay, if I tell you, hey, I have a million dollars, can you name one Evanescence on this? Name the name of one Evanescence song, and I'm just gonna give you this million dollars.
B
What is it? What is that?
A
That's Beyonce.
B
No, I probably couldn't. I'm probably gonna be a broke bitch and not get the money.
A
Could you at least sing one? I'll give you 500,000. You could just, like, hum one. You don't even need to do it. Can you just hum the. The tune?
B
I don't know that. That Evanescence song. There's, like, one that's, like, really popular. It's like a Halloween drag song. What is that?
A
The Dragula Ghoul. The Ooky kooky Spooky ghouls would do it. Bring me to life Wake me up inside Wake me up can't wake up and save me. Let's get to the category is slits and tits. Let's look at some of these looks. I love RuPaul's dress.
B
Oh, I love Ru's look, too.
A
RuPaul looks stunning.
B
I know. That shape is so good. 65, you love. I've actually been 65 for five years
A
because you've been saying 64. So she's in her. Do you think you're gonna still be up in yags at 60 something?
B
I think I could. I don't know if I will, but, like, I think I could.
A
Does your body ever hurt?
B
Yeah.
A
So what this is she in chronic pain? Is just not telling us.
B
But I think she's really wearing the painful parts for.
A
For just the Runway.
B
Like a good 15, 20 minutes to film this and then snuggie and then loose everything. Flats. Maybe even take off pads.
A
I don't even know dick just sitting on the. On the chair.
B
I hope so.
A
That's what Bob's doing right now. Meat on the chair. Oh, I am, y'.
B
All.
A
I am fully.
B
I love Rue's look. This is, like, what I keep talking about when I say, like, when you do an all black look, try not to wear black hair. Like, I feel like it just pops so nice. I think if I had to, like, pluck pussy hairs on Rue's look, I would just, like, cut the fingers off the tip of the gloves and have, like, a breath of skin.
A
I will cut her fingers off, just,
B
like, have, like, fingerless gloves with a nail. But, yeah, I think Ru looks great.
A
Let's go on to our first. I don't think we're only doing six looks per episode. It's gonna make me so fucking. Oh, my God, I'm so happy.
B
Do not like talking about the runways.
A
I don't mind it, but they. But we. I thought. I thought we're gonna be this for 18 queens, right?
B
This.
A
This feels much more. More chill. Yeah. So this is Aja as jinx, the Pokemon, as done by who? Did she say Schiaparelli? Schiaparelli. I see more jinx than I see Schiaparelli.
B
Yeah. Yeah. I don't see. Yeah, no. Maybe the shapes. Don't really know. Is that a breastplate?
A
Yeah, that's a breastplate.
B
Yeah.
A
Are you not a Pokemon?
B
I mean, I am.
A
Jay, can you find the Pidgeotto? Can you find the Naomi Pidgeotto meme? It's so good.
B
I definitely know that one.
A
I'm obsessed with the Naomi Pidgeotto meme.
B
It was a different time
A
Pidgeon. So I will say. Yeah. Can you say that to J. Jacob? I think that it's not a bad look. There's always something a little off with Aja.
B
Yeah. I think what. What I'm noticing is off is the arm color, right? Yeah.
A
Her arms and legs and face are all the same color. Her tits are a deeper color, and
B
her tits are right next to each other.
A
Yeah. I call them hamburger titties.
B
Hamburger titties.
A
Yeah. When they're like. They're like two hamburgers. Two Whoppers sitting on your chest. When tits should be, like, a little lower or maybe a little wider. It looks like they're in a bra, but the bra's not there.
B
Right.
A
Like, we'll see it when we look at what's an Irene's titties in a second.
B
Oh, she had the same ones.
A
No, but Irene's Titties at the top. They're, like, a little separated. They're not like, she has cleavage without a bra, which is very, like, the natural, which is like. How would you have cleavage without a bra?
B
Right.
A
That. That's crazy.
B
Yeah.
A
Let's go to our next look.
B
Also, wait. I don't get Pokemon that much. I don't get infusing, like, that much Pokemon into your dry. I don't really get infusing anything except for, like, glamour into your drag.
A
It's camp. I mean, it's very millennial. And I know you are a millennial, but it is like, listen, the girls who love Pokemon, they're not joking around. Jacob.
C
Oh, I'm loving.
A
I love this look.
C
Roserade entrance gag.
A
My friend Taylor. Like, the ones who. The girls who. The Pokemon girl aids are not a game. You know, they're still playing Pokemon Go.
C
Pokemon is the highest grossing franchise in the world.
B
That's wild.
A
Yeah, people, the Pokemon girlies, they're not fucking around. They love Pokemon.
B
But in your drag.
A
Yeah, girl. They. It's like. It's like, you know how people love Harry Potter? Pokemon's like that for them.
B
Okay, but imagine if I came down the Runway as Hermione Granger inspired every fucking week. That's so weird.
A
You'd win All Star Seven. Let's go on to. To Bosco. Go back to Bosco, baby. This look. Zippers and tits. The zipper in the hair?
B
Yeah, the hair. Everything.
A
Oh, my God. Are you kidding? The zipper on the skin was a little crunchy around the edges, but. But. But I. I couldn't do that. That's why I don't. I don't do prosthetics. But this look.
B
I know. It's so good. You can just also, like, you can see how smart she is just by looking at this look. I love that. I mean, I know you are the one that talks about this a lot when it's like you're referencing the designer's looks.
A
Yeah.
B
So heavily. Or replica.
A
Yeah.
B
This is definitely referencing a Mugler moment. But it's, like, taken and.
A
But it's not a replica, though.
B
Exactly.
A
Yeah.
B
It's like the perfect amount of taking inspiration from something, twisting it and making your own.
A
It's brilliant.
B
The hair is just like, next level.
A
Insane.
B
Love it.
A
Insane. Bosco looks amazing.
B
Love it. Because I've never seen it before.
A
Exactly. I have never, ever seen anything like that before. So she would have worked. I'm glad no one did the zipper eye pull down. I'm so sick of that shit. So sick of it. We. I'm so. Have you done it before?
B
No, but I feel like. I know. I'm surprised someone on this season didn't do it on this episode.
A
Who would you thought would have done it?
B
Like, Phoenix, maybe, like, based on her Runway that she wore.
A
I'm doing a zipper eye pull down.
B
Yeah.
A
That's how. That's my favorite Phoenix.
B
Missy Maven. Misty Maven. That's what it was, right?
A
Misty Maven. No Petroleum Petrolu. But her drag name was Misty Maven.
B
Yes. Yeah.
A
I wonder where she's at these days.
B
I feel like that was the Zephyr.
A
I had a crush on Misty back.
B
I mean, she. Gorgeous.
A
Huge crush. All right, let's go to our next look. Let's talk about other direction. Let's talk about. Okay, so this look is not bad, but it's being overshadowed by everything. Like, everything is overshadowing this look, but every other look on the Runway, basically.
B
Yeah. This doesn't really give you tits and sluts, right?
A
Yeah. I think what she's doing is using her titty meat, her natural titty meat to have titties, which I'm always very jealous of the girls who have natural titty meat to push up.
B
Oh, I fully thought she was wearing a breastplate.
A
No, I think she's using her titty meat.
B
Oh, wow.
A
Like Monet. Monet has titty meat. There's a queen, my name is Shaquita, who has. Who's kind of buff, and she has, like, titty meat as well. You've never been able to do titty meat?
B
No, not yet.
A
Ru has titty meat.
B
Rue definitely has titty meat.
D
Yeah.
A
Which is kind of gag because she's so skinny and always been so skinny. I think it's an age thing.
B
Yeah. I think they're just getting it from different.
A
What do you think it was pulled from her back?
B
I do think that they pull it from their back.
A
I think she's pulling it from the bottom.
B
Like, bottom? No, I think it's, like, under your pillow.
A
Yeah, maybe a little bit of that.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
But I want. I want. I would like to have the titty meat.
B
Yeah, same.
A
I have a little titty meat. I can get, like, a little.
B
You probably could do it, actually.
A
I can get a little titty meat with the proper.
B
Like, Roxy's are really good at just
A
using highlighter when the girls do not pad their chest and they just paint on the titties. I. I hate you.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
I hate you. You're A bad drag queen. And I think you look ridiculous. One degree. You look stupid.
B
I know. 2D drag.
A
It's crazy.
B
It's crazy.
A
And also, why are you. I still going to say it again. Why are you patting your hips and not your titties?
B
I know.
A
I will never understand it. One or the other.
B
I know.
A
One or the other, y'.
C
All.
A
All right, let's go on. Wait, what do you want. Wait, what do you want to say about her?
B
Never mind.
A
No, What? No, no. That's not what we do. I don't know what y' all were. I don't know what y' all were doing over at Forever Dawg, but, baby, here at Civil Rivalry, we say what we. What we think, okay?
B
As someone who has taken advice from people who think that red hair and green look spectacular together, I've tried this. I always now just get Fiona from Shrek whenever I see it, and the whole, like, fairy tale styling is taking me there.
A
And because you think she's still plus size.
B
She is.
A
No, this is. You know, the red hair is. Red hair is hard to pull off.
B
Yeah.
A
Because based on what you're wearing, you look like you're going to the ren faire. This is. It is ren faire.
B
It's very ren faire.
A
She would be cut at the ren faire.
B
Yes.
A
Oh, this milk maiden coming through is Clank.
B
Yeah, she would be rich.
A
But at the ball, on the main stage of Drag Race, you look a little crazy.
B
Four tits and slits.
A
Yeah, I agree. I agree. Let's go on to our next one. So Olivia Lux is reimagining Lil Kim's look at the VMAs when Diana Ross grabbed her by the titty. Um, it's a great reference. It's probably one of the most iconic titty moments of all time. Um, I think she looks good. This is a good look.
B
Yeah, she does look good.
A
Yeah. I love that shoe. I love that titty. I love that hair. I love this outfit. And I think she made it.
B
What did Diana Ross say to her when she did it?
A
I don't think she said anything. She just reached over and grabbed it and, like, slapped. Picked it up by the hand, which apparently Mary J. Blige was really mad about.
B
Oh, really?
A
Because Mary J. Blige was, like, really, like, apparently it really embarrassed Lil Kim.
B
Oh.
A
And then Mary J. Blige was mad at Diana Ross.
B
I mean, how can you be mad at Diana Ross?
A
Ask Mary J.
B
That's like one person that's like, do. Do whatever you want.
A
She Said she said no more. No more drama. I want a little bit of drama. You have any other thoughts about this look?
B
Yeah, I mean, I understand it. It's, it's. It's. It's hard that. It's like our first time seeing the girls and obviously they can't plan the runways. But like, I don't want to see a reference first up. I don't want to see a reference first up.
A
I'm not, mind you. I don't. I do not love the references. Which is part of why. Which is part of why I have a hard time when girls either recreate things or when every look is. Every look is referencing something. Yeah, it's, it's. It's a lot for me. Only thing I don't like is that you can tell that her. It looks like her body tight ends the ankle.
B
Yeah. Is it like a body like.
A
I think that the body tight is. What's the titty? The army. And down to the ankle, which she has the stones on her ankle. Unless she got a light skinned foot.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're totally right.
A
They could just added a sock to it for sure. Added a little stir up. Yeah. Or even just a whole foot in there. You know what I mean?
B
Just straight lines. They don't go anywhere in drag, especially at the ankle. Yeah, it just cuts you off and makes you look a little shorter or disconnected. That shoe looks huge.
A
Yeah, like a big ass shoe.
B
Do you like wearing those platforms?
A
I have. I usually just wear a pump. I usually wear a 3 to 4 inch pumpkin with no platform on it.
B
Normally I need to feel the earth.
A
I used to be a platform girly and I'll wear them from time to time, but typically I'm just in a regular pump.
B
Yeah, me too.
A
Let's see our next one.
B
So.
A
This is amazing.
B
So good.
A
This is insane. Irene. The alien looks. I've never seen a backpack panel that looks like that before.
B
Mm.
A
I've never seen someone do it where it's like in this asymmetrical up and down vibe. Her tits looked really great. They're a great shape. I did not love when it became a leotard though. It's like, girl, you're making it less and less impressive.
B
Yeah.
A
The more you take off, this is stunning.
B
Yeah.
A
If you came out of this leotard, I'd be like, not. Not that cute. Like, if you're not gonna go for the lip revealing the titties, it's great. But revealing to a leotard. What is it? What are you about to. Is this doing the lipstick for your life?
C
Yeah.
A
You know what I mean?
B
I mean, also amazing look. Gorgeous. I will say, I wish the greens match.
A
Yeah. Because the tits are different than the arms.
B
It's a hard look to do on television. And there's a part of me that's like, okay, so then why do it on television? But I do think that. No shade to Irene. But I think if acid were to
A
do it, I think, oh, if Acid Betty did it, it would be perfect.
B
It'd be cohesive.
A
But also, you can also cover your tits and mesh.
B
Right.
A
Like, you don't have to. You don't have to paint the breastplate.
B
Exactly.
A
You can get a breast. A breastplate that's your skin color. And then whatever you put over your arms, just cover that over the tits and it will look just the way your arms do.
B
Acid Betty showed up to season eight with an airbrush machine.
A
Yes. I remember. We were shook, shattered and shorn, gagged.
B
She flew from New York five suitcases with a big ass airbrush machine.
A
You know, the hair she did, that was like the boxes and they were
B
linked together with carabiners, ponytail, everything.
A
I cannot wait. She's gotta make it to the final round.
B
I know she, like, she would, like, take hair home and then it would come back and it would be like this. Like.
A
Yeah, on our season, on our season, they would let us take hair to the hotel. And I was convinced Betty had a stylist, a hairstyle. I was like, there's no way what you took home yesterday is what you brought back today. That's impossible.
B
That girl, she's amazing.
A
And then we have. This looked like Phoenix. You know,
B
it's like another thing. It's hard to plan the order of the runways. So, like, for this to be your first debut after being gone for so many years, this would have been a gag. This was a gag when Latrice did it.
A
Yeah.
B
And it was like seven episodes into this.
A
But now it looks like this is your thing, right? She looks like a kinky Teletubby.
B
She looks like a creepy uncle.
A
Like, who wears in a gimp suit in the. In. In the basement.
B
Yeah,
A
But you are the creepy uncle. One of your nieces. If he was like, uncle Davis has titties in the closet.
B
Actually. Yeah. Mediocre head.
A
You're going to prison. I don't. I don't hate this look, but it's just weirder as her debut.
B
Why not a black shoe? Why a lavender?
A
Oh, I didn't even think about that.
B
Purple pleaser boot.
A
Yeah.
B
Also when she undid the tail, the
A
bottom part, like, you need to, like, it needs to be attached. So we don't see the bottom part of your. Your. Because we came back. It was. It was done. It was like readjusted, but the bottom part of the breastplate was showing, which was so irritating.
B
That was weird.
A
I hated that.
B
I feel like she should have just done a zip and like, have the tits be exposed. She didn't need to, like, do it and then pull down.
A
Yeah, yeah, she self sabotages, so.
B
But that putting something over your face.
A
Oh, fuck.
B
Doing your makeup for an hour minimum and then doing that latex.
A
No matter, no less.
B
Miss me.
A
She gotta be sweaty.
B
Oh, she's dripping. Did you need to clock her mug when she came back from the.
A
I'm a little bit sweaty. Let's go on to their. Their. Their now. In what? Let's talk about their verses. Okay, so in terms of their verses, Aja said, you know, can you make it big, baby?
C
Can you pull up the notes up of my phone? I. I have all the verses.
A
Gotcha. La Gotcha Extra. I cannot stop saying that. I don't know why I always say it doesn't make. It does not make any sense. Lagacha extra. I say it all the time.
B
You came up with it too?
A
Yeah, of course I did. It's not. And it's not good. It's not even interesting.
B
Legacha. I barely know her.
A
I barely know her. So. Okay, so.
C
And a quick disclaimer to our listeners. I typed this all out just by listening to the music because the lyrics are not up. So if there are any wrong words or phrases, I apologize.
A
It's chat. Jpt.
C
It is not chat.
B
Jpt.
A
Chat Jacob. Chat. Jpt. I was gonna say it. Yeah. Anyway, Aja said, you know, they had to put these best. You know, they had to put the best queen first. I put these girls in a hearse on the first verse. Great line.
B
She won right there.
A
I'm a wild little baddie with a fatty and some curves Glam rock attitude My eye rolls stern I'm charismatic and unique I got nerve, I'm talented I win so much and bitches stay mad at it I'm leaving with the crown and girl I am dominant I'm adamant Whoever in my way I'll suck the rock out of them oh yeah, I said it. This is a great verse.
B
So good.
A
Her performance was amazing. She was obviously top two, right? Obviously.
B
Like when I watch it back, those first three lines, I Was like, oh, she won it. Literally, like, that's when she won it.
A
Ate it up. Amazing. And I love her look.
B
Yeah.
A
This I can do.
B
Red hair. Yes. A natural hair color.
A
A very natural hair color.
B
A very natural hair color.
A
Bosco said B, O S, C, O. I was not in. She was singing so high. I gotta say, Bosco's singing voice is crazy and not in a good way.
B
Was it like a character for the rock girl? That's how I took it.
A
I don't. I just thought, bosco can't sing. And she was just trying her best
B
because it was like, B, O S, C, O. The demon's back. So welcome to the smoke show. It's time. And you're behind and I can tell that you're garments not lined tits and ass is my profession. Papa, can you hear me? I have a confession. This is going to be easy.
A
Oh, yeah, it did give that your vision is so good. That 8. Because I am over here fighting for my life.
B
I'm telling you. And you can use. I'll get you in some contacts.
C
You can use code Sibling15@Pear Eyewear for all your glasses needs.
A
Exactly. I do not like this verse.
B
Love the look.
A
The look is so good. She's always gonna eat with the look.
B
Yeah.
A
Every time. She's gonna eat with the look.
B
I hope so.
A
And I didn't mind her performance. I get what she was doing. Ross was like, show your face. She was trying to show the ass. We get it. Like, she was trying to show the ass. This. This verse is so bad.
B
It's also so short in comparison to Aja.
A
My hair, long legs be all disagree. Let's go on to deja sky. Uh, Deja Skye. I actually like this look a lot. I like the look. Um, she said it's deja Skye. It's deja vu. Cause I'm bringing this body back to you with the face on tilt like I always do. Yeah, the mug stays beat black and blue. That's actually a pretty good line. Always 100. Always, always 100. I'm in for the kill. Should consider, should insure those thighs for 100 mil. Cause she has nice legs. Cause always serving, Coming to get your fill. Y' all can call me Lil Jon. Cause the way I man this grill, these are actually pretty decent lyrics. But the thing is, I will say, like, when RuPaul says, call me mother, you know it's real.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, we call her mother. When az just says, I put these girls in a hearse on my first verse. You Know it's real. When Deja Skye says, always on 100, I'm in for the kill. I don't think she. She doesn't strike me as, like, like, zoning in to knock these hoes out.
B
Right.
A
It's not the vibe she gives.
B
Yeah. I think she's trying to depart from her last season.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, nice, pretty princess pastel moment.
A
I don't bel. I don't believe you as a badass. Yeah. You don't give badass. But I do believe. I do believe the face on tilt like I always do. The body is. The face is. The face is great.
B
Yeah. You almost started there for a second.
A
Actually, I will say this. Back when she was padding, her body was always immaculate.
B
I loved her padded body.
A
Like the way Daija Skye used to pad. The body was t. Every time. She looked so good. But a lot of the girls lose weight. They don't want to pad no more.
B
Right. I mean, she started.
A
I bullied her into padding a little bit.
B
Yeah.
A
Like padding just, like, a little bit on the corset. She has, like, a little bit attached to the corset.
D
Little.
A
Little hip bump so you can still show leg.
B
Oh, wow.
A
And I bullied mistress into fixing her pads.
B
Oh, my God. I don't think you've ever tried to get me into pads.
A
No, I. Although I did see you in pads on Drag Race, and you looked actually sick. Me better. You looked stunning both ways, to be honest. Because something about the way you do it looks really good. It's the garments you choose. Like, a lot of these girls don't. Padma, pick, like, a straight up and down tube dress.
B
Right. I think it's. I think a lot of people. It's like a feeling more than it is a look.
A
But you'll not pad. And then you'll accentuate the legs or you'll have a flare at the hip or your corset at the waist. You'll find ways to do it. Other girls will put on a straight up and down just tube dress with no pads, and I'm like, I don't see it. You know what I mean?
B
Yeah.
A
Like, Violet doesn't pad and looks good.
B
Yeah. I mean, the blueprint.
A
Yeah. Some girls. Some girls just don't pad, but they don't get how to. How to. You have to work harder on making your body look feminine when you don't pad.
B
It's also hard to introduce yourself to the world as something and then switch it and expect for people to, like, get it.
A
That is true. That Being said, I do think what Deja's doing with her body here, she has figured out the no padding. At least what I've seen on Drag Race right now.
B
Yeah, she does. She looks proportionate.
A
Yeah, for sure. Like.
C
Like that thing.
A
That outfit she wore in the opening when she walked in was so good.
B
I loved that with all those fucking stuff. Her face, too. I know that you guys already talked about it. Like, her face there, she did, like, this, like, Kevin aucoin Cher makeup, and it was like, one of the best approaches I've ever seen to that.
A
Are you sliding?
B
It is, right?
A
I don't. I can't tell. Is this. I think it's still on there, though.
B
Let's see. I'm like.
A
I think it's not jumping.
B
Okay, good.
A
It's not jumping. So let's go on to our next one. Who is Irene the alien? Talk about a short verse. Behind the pointed ears and clown white concealer lies a winner and it's time to release here. This time I'll make sure you remember my name. It's Irene. From Valhalla to the hall of Fame. That's insane.
B
That how short that verse is that
A
she wrote that at the same time that Aja wrote. You know, I had to, like. You know what? You know, I had to put the best queen first. I killed these girls in the hearse with the first verse. And this is what Irene was writing. What?
B
But, you know, it's like. I think it's just like, the section of the song that they're assigned or that they choose, they all have the
A
same amount of time.
B
You think? Yes.
A
That'd be crazy. If I got less time than everyone, I would. I would raise hell.
B
You would?
A
You would?
C
You would?
A
I would be like, everybody.
B
I think there's some girls who are like. Like, what are you looking at? Your eyes traveling?
A
No, I was gonna see if it was lighting, but it's not. It looks like. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, I was looking out for you. She looks amazing. This Lisa Frank leotard catsuit motor jacket moment. So good.
B
But this is a winning verse too, right?
A
Yeah, she's top two crazy. I don't think the verse is good. Her performance was good. For me, the performance and the look were better than the verse I do like. From Valhalla to the hall of Fame. That's pretty clever.
B
Yeah, that is fun.
A
But this verse is pissing me off. But she looks so beautiful.
B
She does look gorgeous.
A
She always looks stunning.
B
And she's, like, kind of made. I Don't know her drag Persona, but like, her out of drag is like kind of made for a hair rock challenge.
A
She even was like, look at me.
C
Yeah.
A
Let's go on to Olivia Lux. It's giving High School Musical does Jesus Christ Superstar. But this girl was actually really good in like Ragtime and Grease and wizard of Oz. But then because she's the school star, they had to give her the lead role in Jesus Christ Superstar.
B
Yeah. And she just had to do it. I didn't get like musical theater vibes from it, like everyone was saying. But do you want me to do her verse?
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Okay. Divalicious Supreme Hate that line. Like, what does that even mean?
A
What does that even mean? Hate, hate, hate, hate your verse and lyrics.
B
I think Ice Spice actually had a Nicki moment this episode. We'll talk about it. Divalicious supreme the electric smile has got you shook up Scared I can see I storm the girls out on the street this face, this skin Place your bets on this mugler doll to win I'm a kill a watt cuz I'm a killer what I always make the cut.
A
This verse is horrible.
B
That's corny.
A
It's so bad. Devalicious supreme these are just like. It's like a fabulicious diva.
B
And that's the line.
A
Yeah. Fabulous diva coming for the crowd. And I'm gonna shut you the hoes down and we gonna stomp, stomp stomp the Runway and the picture's gonna slay every single day Because I'm caught serving face and I'm gonna end up in first place. Give me the crown. Give it to me now, mama Ru. I think you know how like, it's. I hate it.
B
Okay, well, that was good. That was actually really fucking good. I wouldn't be mad at that, but I am mad at the line. The face, the skin.
A
You know what I hate?
C
The.
A
That was. I cannot read that. The electric smile has got you shook up scared I can see your smile is charming we're not shook that you're smiling at no one's like, oh, shit. Like, you do have a beautiful smile, but I shook. Yeah, I'm happy to see your beautiful
B
smile, but I don't. I feel like she's. Think she ate with this.
A
Also storm. You know what storming the girl like when you storm. So when. When someone's in the on ballroom and then you go on low key unannounced, you're storming. Olivia Lux don't storm. No, she don't fucking storm. Do you see her storming Olivia Lux storming the girls?
B
No, I do not.
A
I mean, maybe she does, but if. If I was in ballroom and Olivia stormed me, I wouldn't be nervous.
B
She was giving.
C
What about in the face category?
A
First of all, I would eat any girl in the face. Drag face. Let me tell you right now, you hoes try to convince me I'm not stunning, but you will never, ever convince me, ever.
B
You know what's stunning?
A
What?
B
Them watching.
A
Exactly. I was saying something. Someone online was like Bob and Monat judging people's looks. I said, let me say something. This is the truth. This is the real true thing. Whoever typed that, you will literally never in your life achieved the things I've achieved. You have not. And you will. And you literally will never. You're sitting at home in a shirt with spaghetti stains on it on a couch, wearing a Snuggie or something, talking about me.
B
Not too much. I subscribe.
A
I'm talking about the YouTubers. But Patreon, I would never say Patreon. I would never say about you all. You all are so amazing and so. And he's so fashionable. My God, that's that spaghetti stain.
B
That's funny.
A
She looks beautiful, though.
B
Beautiful. I mean, she had that moment in the wind. I was like, everything gorgeous, but she looks like.
A
She looks. She looks like she's dressed as a rocker.
B
Right.
A
It's Halloween and her voice was setting.
B
Yeah.
A
Let's go on our last girl, Phoenix. So I. This might be my favorite look of the rockers.
B
The rockers, yeah. That's a. They kind of did her dirty, I think, in the performance. They had let her, like, slight lighting underneath the dancers, like, crawling through, and it was like full shadow, like she was in full darkness.
A
But it's because she couldn't do anything else because that stuff Jamal Sim was showing us during the rehearsal, she didn't do any of it, right? So it's like, girl, just scratch it
B
from the fire.
D
Okay?
A
From the fire. Because we do it back and forth from the fire, from the ash Phoenix is back Ready to. To. To revenge out of my way or I'll take you down Ready in fight Ready in flight Ready to fight Ready to take what I like no queen's gonna come between me and my crown Boo. Boo. This is horrible.
B
Yeah, this is bad.
A
This verse is horrible. Absolutely abysmal.
B
Yeah, I don't. It doesn't go anywhere. I kind of feel like she got a lot of help, like, with this just to make something happen, because there's no Sprinkle of her personality. Besides her name, part of me is like this.
A
If you're insecure, make it part of the song and you'll be relatable. But if you're not Divalicious supreme, we'll know you're faking. Yeah, we'll know.
B
Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like how Kim, like, on Bitch Perfect. Like, she, like, made herself, like, meek
A
and cute, and then she was like, you're welcome, Kim. I carried you. Carried you to third place. Exactly, exactly. No, I don't like this. This. This verse, but I love her look. This is my favorite. She was the most. Who looked the most authentic rock and roll to me.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, she. This. This could be a real rocker.
B
I will say, like, this challenge. I would have loved to seen this. I love all the camera angles and all that kind of stuff, but, like, when we're watching a competition, I want to see what you're doing in that moment.
A
I don't want to see eight cuts together.
B
I don't want to hear, like.
A
I don't want to see nine takes.
B
Exactly.
A
Yeah, I feel y'.
B
All. It just, like, kind of takes away the, like, suspense.
A
You right, you right. Let's go to the judging. So the judges, they seem really disappointed in Phoenix, and they were very impressed with Irene and Aja, which, honestly,
D
I
A
think they were a little harsh on Phoenix because I don't think Phoenix was much worse than the other girls in the performance.
B
Yeah, I think that Olivia and Phoenix were the worst.
A
Yeah. But they seem to just be going really hard on. On Phoenix, and they just hated that she wasn't believing herself. They were like, stop fucking looking sad, bitch.
B
That's when I Spice kind of, like, gave her the. I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. When she was like, they say you're a legend. I wasn't seeing it tonight.
A
Oh, is that what she said? How did I miss that? That's gaggy.
B
I know. And then Phoenix Madden's chat clapped back online.
A
Oh, what did she say?
B
I think she said something about, like, at least I'm not a. Who's known for, like, a fart.
A
We have a visitor. Are you coming up here? No, we have a. He just wanted to come smell your leg. That's wild.
B
I know.
A
But also, like, did she think she's gonna take Ice Spice down?
B
Maybe. I don't know how they do it over there in Florida.
C
Also, I appreciate the love from everyone about the Ice Spice comment. I'll comment more and tell the funny part about this later, but trust me, When I say my 25 years of experience and decades of contributing to my community is what makes me an icon. Not three minutes on a TV show. That being said, I'm perfectly fine not getting icon validation from someone who's. Whose fame in quotation marks has come from one song about shitting and farting.
A
To be fair, Ice Spice is known for more than one song.
B
Yeah.
A
And I would say that song isn't even her biggest song. And she is famous.
B
Yes.
A
She's like an actual fan. Anyway, that being said, the clapback, it wasn't, it wasn't a particularly strong clapback. There are certain clapbacks that are so good, it's like wow, you literally shut it down.
B
Right?
A
Like Jacob, can you read? Could you read Lil Nas X's clap back to Azalea Banks? Like this is an actual clapback. Like when you clap back like this. All conversation's done. Azalea.
C
I could never make a hit song again. And you would still never in your bussy soap, selling chicken, sacrificing, botched body hating ass, miserable life reach a tenth of my success. Love your music.
A
Btw, that's a clapback. That's a round of applause back. That's amazing. Anyway, so the top queens are Aja and Irene, which I agree with. Do you agree with that?
B
I agree with it too.
A
And the lip sync was. I enjoyed it. Only thing I didn't like was when Irene did the Cabbage Patch.
B
Yeah, I mean Aja fucking, she ate so hard. I don't know that move, what it's called when she did that thing with her leg.
A
Step kick, step kick, bitch. Could you do it?
B
Hell no.
A
Maybe in these shoes, which again are 12 inch pleasers.
B
Right. But she won. In that moment I was like, yeah, she won. And then I had to like rewind it and I had to watch it like three, three or four more times. Then I saw it next day on
A
and then I was like, do my little dance. So then she did her little. Yeah, it was great. Aja ate down.
B
But also it's like a song that like. It's like when you have fucking Latrice
A
Royale and Kenya Michaels dancing around her.
B
Maddie Morphosis. And as I'm telling you, you know, like who's gonna win? You know, I. That's probably Maddie.
A
Imagine, imagine Maddie winning against Latrice and elipsing against. Unless it was like Jethro Tull.
B
Right?
A
Aja wins. No one's arguing with this. Aja gets the extra points. So aja now has three points, Irene has two points. Everyone else has zero points. But RuPaul calls the girls four. She goes, they're going to be MVQ points. And the bottom four queens will each give one point away to someone. They cannot keep it for themselves. And we will tell you all about that when we do the next episode, which will be out in two days. Today is Wednesday, and our next episode comes out on Friday. So you can see, unless you are
C
on the Patreon, and then you'll be getting those a day early. So if you're Patreon, you're probably going to be getting this on Tuesday.
A
Exactly. And you get to see the whole. But you can still see our beautiful, beautiful, stunning faces. All right, see y' all soon.
D
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Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Naomi Smalls
Release Date: May 14, 2025
This special installment of Sibling Watchery kicks off the monumental tenth season of Drag Race All Stars, recapping episode one: "Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner." Bob is joined by the glamorous Naomi Smalls—subbing in for Monét X Change due to Pit Stop exclusivity—making for a fresh dynamic of drag legend and runway supermodel. Together, they break down bracket one’s queens, the new All Stars format, their favorite (and least favorite) looks and verses, juicy personal anecdotes, and plenty of tongue-in-cheek roastery in the duo’s signature style.
Hilariously no-holds-barred, Bob and Naomi balance playful shade with genuine admiration, deploying insider drag lingo, sharp reads, and deep-cut references. The duo mixes serious critique (fashion, performance, strategy) with giddy talk about drag anatomy, online drama, and personal showbiz stories, making for an episode that’s as much a kiki as a masterclass in drag commentary.
Sibling Watchery’s All Stars S10 debut sets the bar high for recap podcasts—inclusive of expert analysis, flamboyant fun, and the sharp wit that keeps Drag Race fandom coming back week after week. The new bracketed format and point system injects fresh drama, and Bob and Naomi prove themselves a powerhouse combo right out of the gate.
Whether you watched the episode on Paramount+ or missed it entirely, this recap gives you all the tea, shade, and context you need. Until next week—Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner!