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Bob the Drag Queen
Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Sibling Watchery. My name is Bob the Drag Queen.
Naomi Smalls
And it's me, Naomi Small.
Bob the Drag Queen
And today we are reviewing RuPaul's Drag Race season All Stars 12. Jesus Christ. All Stars 10 Episode 12 Smackdown for the Crown first of all, I want to say congratulations to the newest inductee to the hall of Fame. Welcome to the Winner Circles. Big congratulations to Ginger. Man, is she here?
Naomi Smalls
No, I'm presenting you because you are the Winner's Circle.
Bob the Drag Queen
Welcome to the Winner's Circle, Ginger Minj. It was, it was a, a, a interesting battle. Like a battle well fought. But like, we have not seen this format before. Um, there was like a lot of lip syncing. There was mind games, there was costume design, improv. Uh, there was a lot going on. So. Ginger Minj, congratulations and welcome to the Winner's Circle. Uh, once you're here, you see life doesn't change that much. It's kind of it's kind of still.
Naomi Smalls
The same as a winner.
Bob the Drag Queen
Mm.
Naomi Smalls
And me as a loser. Asking a winner this question, do you. Is there a difference between an All Stars winner and a regular season winner?
Bob the Drag Queen
I think so. Monet thinks not. Monet is an All Stars winner. I think that if you're a winner of a. Of a season of RuPaul's Drag Race, in my humble opinion, is more prestigious than being a winner of All Stars. Because in my opinion, All Stars. I've already said All Stars are for losers. And there's only been one queen to ever compete on All Stars who's not a loser, and that's Jinkx Monsoon.
Naomi Smalls
And BB BB Was.
Bob the Drag Queen
She lost.
Naomi Smalls
Oh, gotcha. So, like, after All Stars, she.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. There's only one queen who's ever competed on All Stars, not a loser.
Naomi Smalls
Oh, wow.
Bob the Drag Queen
Um, now. But losing doesn't mean. Doesn't mean. I mean, I've. I'm a loser at the. I'm. I'm a Trader's loser. I'm America's Got Talent loser. I am a last comic standing loser. I've lost a lot of stuff in my day, so I don't think that losing is really. I mean, losing is the new win in cordon to.
Naomi Smalls
I did also beat you in that arm wrestle.
Bob the Drag Queen
You did beat me, the arm wrestle. That is true. You beat me in Design Challenge.
Naomi Smalls
Oh, I was. I mean, yeah, sure, whatever. But I didn't think you were going to let me actually take an arm wrestle over you.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I don't think that. I don't think that losing is that big of a deal. And I say it to be a little tongue in cheek. All right. Are for losers. Because I don't. Because I don't plan on going back anytime soon. But I don't know, if things go south, maybe I'll be back one day, but.
Naomi Smalls
Or if it becomes enticing. More enticing.
Bob the Drag Queen
As someone who has competed on All Stars and lost twice. And lost twice. You haven't competed twice.
Naomi Smalls
I've lost twice.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you think that winning Drag Race is different than winning All Stars?
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, for sure. For sure. I like. I look at Drag Race as such a competition. I do think it is a competition show. I hate when people reference it to just being a TV show.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Naomi Smalls
But now I think it has become a little bit more of a TV show. I do think, like, back in the day, there were higher stakes, less guaranteed placing and all that jazz, but I think that if you do something the first time and you win, it's A little bit more impressive.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I agree, but that still does not shade. Some of my favorite queens have won All Stars. Alaska, as people know, is one of my favorite queens.
Naomi Smalls
Monet.
Bob the Drag Queen
Monet X Change. So I don't think there's anything shady about saying, I think that winning Drag Race is more impressive than winning All Stars. But that being said, still. Congratulations, Ginger. You are now inducted into the Drag Race hall of Fame. You are now officially in the winner circle. Let's get into the episode. So Mistress has been banished. Yes, Mistress has recently been banished, and Lydia is very proud of sending her home. I'm still kind of gagged that, um, I just didn't know she was taking this motherhood stuff so seriously. I really thought it was a bit. I thought it was a bit for tv. And, no, she's, like, dead ass. Like, I just sent my drag mom home. But, like, what did Mistress do to be her drag mom?
Naomi Smalls
Nothing. Bully her or, like, get her on her side. I think she's just, like, give. Playing into the television aspect of it, I think. So I don't think she's going home and being like, I have a new drag mom.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because Lydia is. From what I've seen from Drag Race, Lydia seems very, like, submissive. Like, she's like, like, what you're doing, I'll do if you make the decisions, and I'll just kind of go along with it. It's kind of hard to gauge Lydia because she's. She doesn't give a ton of her personality, like, in the work, but I guess she is. But her personality is not very garish or outstanding. Like, someone like Mistress or me or Ginger, Minj or Aja, who have these. Or, like, Valentina. These, like, big, big personalities. Her personality is that it's kind of quiet, demure, and, like, passive.
Naomi Smalls
And that monotone factor. Yeah, yeah. It always is. There's something about that monotone factor that people always think you're, like, bored or asleep or not there.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you have the monotone, and I.
Naomi Smalls
Am very bored right now.
Bob the Drag Queen
So Bosco feels really bad about Mistress going home because she's like, I know how badly she wanted this. Bosco's, like, really choked up. Top of the episode about Mistress going home, and she doesn't even want to sit at her home. She just won the challenge. It's like, I don't know. That's interesting to me.
Naomi Smalls
Bosco is one of the few people I've seen in real life tame the beast that is Mistress.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Naomi Smalls
Like, so I think that they do actually Have a very tight relationship. They toured together. They definitely keep in contact with each other.
Bob the Drag Queen
It didn't seem like Mistress did not ever put any of her vitriol toward Bosco. It was, like, in any direction, but Bosco.
Naomi Smalls
Right. Jorgeous and Bosco are the only ones that seem to retreat from Mistress's wrath.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but. And I wouldn't say Lydia even got away with it because she. Lydia got wrapped up in the madness. You know what I mean?
Naomi Smalls
Oh, she was mad at Lydia when she beat her.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. So interesting. But there's not a lot of drama that's opening, I think. So Mistress is there, but it's pretty. It's pretty. We have entered the Kumbaya episode.
Naomi Smalls
Do you think that a lot of these girls are seeing the writing on the wall or are they actually being like, I got a chance to win this shit?
Bob the Drag Queen
So folks online were saying they felt like. Folks online were saying that they felt like Mistress gave up on the lip sync because she saw the writing on the wall, which doesn't seem like. Doesn't seem like the Mistress. I. I don't know her that well, to be honest. I mean, I. I don't think I've ever met Mitch in person. Have I ever met Mitches in person?
Naomi Smalls
Really? Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think I've ever met her in person.
Naomi Smalls
I think you guys have so much, like, back and forth.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, we talk. We. We talk on the phone and we. We DM and we. We goof off online. But I don't know that I've met her in person.
Irene the Alien
I met her once at an event at heart, but maybe you weren't there.
Bob the Drag Queen
I feel like I would. I feel like I would remember it because I always remember when I meet someone really short or really tall, like, when someone's really short, it sticks out of my mind. Like, I've only met George just once. I remember, like, this girl is really tiny, and I met short. Mistress is short? Yes. Mistress is probably like, 5, 4, 5, 5.
Naomi Smalls
Oh, interesting. I don't think of her as a.
Bob the Drag Queen
As a short person.
Naomi Smalls
Short person.
Bob the Drag Queen
And when I met Tempest du Jour, I remember like, my God, this woman is gigantic. Like, Tempest du Jour is like six. Six.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
So when I meet someone who's really short or really tall, that always sticks out of my mind. So I think. I don't think I've met Mistress in person, though.
Naomi Smalls
That's like, on Twitter, she.
Irene the Alien
She tweeted that she's 5, 9. But also sometimes, I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
Mistress Law is.
Naomi Smalls
That's like, kind of.
Bob the Drag Queen
I saw. I saw a picture of her standing next to Georgia. She's not. No. 59. She's saying she's. She's saying she's five inches taller than George's. Let's. Let's. Let's wake it up.
Naomi Smalls
Let's wake that up.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I could be wrong. I also could be wrong. So maybe I did meet her, and she's advertised.
Naomi Smalls
Let's wake it up. An actual genuine Mistress Isabelle quote.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think Mistress is just saying something other people say. Okay, but mistress is. Mistress does say it a lot.
Naomi Smalls
She brought it to the drag race.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, for sure. To the. To the. To the racist sphere. She definitely bought it. To the racist sphere. Is she standing. Where is she at? Which one is she?
Irene the Alien
I don't know. Where is she? Maybe she's not here. She's not here.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, she got removed from the group chat. So the next day. So the next day, Kari Kobe walks into the workroom and everyone. So Kerry Corey has beat Mistress Isabel Brooks as the. Yeah, the. The. The. What is it called again? The. The lucky draw or the. The wild card. Did you say wild card already?
Naomi Smalls
No, I said the raffle.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah, the wild card.
Naomi Smalls
The raffle winner.
Bob the Drag Queen
The wild card winner. Yeah. Look at her. Look at her next to Jordan. That's not five inches.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Irene the Alien
I mean, she's also wearing the big heels, and she has really big hair.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Anyway, let's move on. So Carrie Copel walks in, and people seem happy for her. I have a theory. I think they're happy for her because they're not intimidated.
Naomi Smalls
Who would have been intimidating?
Bob the Drag Queen
I think Mistress would have been intimidating if Aja had somehow not made it. She would have been intimidating for sure. Oh, I think that Lil Skate Denali would have been intimidating.
Naomi Smalls
Oh, yes, Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think those people who. The people would have been like, oh, no, not these queens. They're like, oh, Carrie's just here to hang out, right?
Naomi Smalls
No, Lil, Carrie's here to have a good time.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Naomi Smalls
I don't know what she did in between the time of maybe, because this is, like, the first time we're seeing her in that, like, bracket where they, like, had a break, a fur time, and then coming back. This is the first time we're ever seeing her. She looks so, like, refreshed.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Like, you mean, like, the Georgias, like.
Naomi Smalls
Pumped, not pickled and, like, overly pumped or anything. Just, like, fresh.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I think. Well, she was going through it on her bracket. She was fighting for her life.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, I think that the Wares of competition. Maybe had done done a number on her because she was really, like, arguing with his mistress and George just, like, nonstop.
Naomi Smalls
She thought she had friends.
Bob the Drag Queen
Literally. Ugh, Poor girl. Um, so then we go into Rheida Queen. I don't know how to feel about rheida queen is this.
Naomi Smalls
But right before they lip synced, they did the Rita Queen, right?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes.
Naomi Smalls
Okay. Um, I. I don't think it, like, why?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, they were saying they were going to do it to do seated ranking, which means basically the top competes against the bottom, and then the next two and the next two and the next two, and then the middle competes against each other. So they're having the girls rate who you think is the biggest threat and the l in the lip sync smackdown for the crown. And these rankings are very interesting. I'm excited to get into them.
Naomi Smalls
Who are you ranking as the top and who are you ranking as the bottom?
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, for me, I would say the queen that I'd be most worried about going up against. And again, we'll get to this point. But Carrie made a really good point. It really is about who you. It really is about the song. You know what I mean? But I would probably be most nervous to go. Yeah, kind of, I think.
Naomi Smalls
To noobs, Amateurs, Loki. It's about the song. I don't actually think it's about the song. I think any drag queen should be able to murder any song.
Bob the Drag Queen
But there are certain songs where there are certain queens. You just can't like. You just can't.
Naomi Smalls
Like what?
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, for example, if I were going to be going up against, like, I think Derrick Berry. Say again?
Irene the Alien
If you're going up against.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've said this a thousand times because Derrick Barry said it once. She's like, if it was a British song, I would have stayed. You wouldn't have. I would have beat you. If it was.
Naomi Smalls
See, that's the headspace I think you should have.
Bob the Drag Queen
If it wasn't Brady song, I would have won still. Yeah, I woulda. I just would've.
Naomi Smalls
Okay, so if you're going against jorgeous.
Bob the Drag Queen
But if it's like this really super heartfelt ballad, I do think if it's like this. If it's like this heartfelt Patti labelle ballad, I think that latrice could give me a run for my money and probably beat me. I think latrice would be the one to beat, like, I think that I can do a really great. Like, Patti labelle. So somebody loves you or, you know, a deep cut from Patti labelle or Just some passionate song from her. But I do think that Latrice is probably more primed to do that than me. I could maybe on some day beat Latrice, but I would. I see it more for her than me.
Naomi Smalls
I love Latrice Royale. I think you could be her in a lip sync.
Bob the Drag Queen
And you hear that, Latrice, you're cupped. You're cupped. I make you feel like a natural woman. So when they're getting ready with the Raider Queen, Ru has all the girls rank each other in the order that in this. She didn't say how, but she's saying this will determine the order of the lip sync. But they don't know what that means.
Naomi Smalls
Right.
Bob the Drag Queen
Which I kind of wish she hadn't told them that.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. Because I think that some of them played it a little bit more strategic. Like Irene, she was, like, putting Jorgeous as, like, the third most threat or something like that, which is, I think, of all this cast, Jorgeous is the top one.
Bob the Drag Queen
George is the one that you would. That you'd feel like you have the most to work against.
Naomi Smalls
Just knowing the judge's reaction to how she performs. I think that that would. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Recall every time she does a little spinning dip.
Naomi Smalls
Yes. I think that would be the most difficult one to be, and I think the easiest one to beat in this bracket would surprisingly be Ginger.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I wouldn't say. I would say the easiest one to beat for me would be Carrie Colby, Keri Colby, or Irene.
Naomi Smalls
You're right. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because I do think that what Ginger does when she's lip syncing is actually quite smart. I don'. Always respect what she does because she does the bingo creme. Like, I'm gonna make fun of you. Instead of lip syncing my own number, I'm gonna make you part of my number involuntarily. And I don't necessarily respect that or love that, but judges and people respond really well to it.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. See, that's the thing. It's almost like you can't. Like, in this scenario of what we're watching now of Drag Race, it's not necessarily about who is the best. It's like what the judges are actually really wanting to see happen.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, women talking about the ra, the Raider Queen, what I'm hearing is like, Jorgeous and Aja are very nervous about each other. They're like, well, I'm nervous about this. These two seem like they don't want to go against each other, which obviously, they're going to end up going against each other, because that's they wouldn't have showed that if they wouldn't have been going against each other. You know what I mean?
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. The stakes.
Bob the Drag Queen
The stakes. And let's go over. Well, we'll talk about the rankings when we get to this. To this smackdown. So I love that they. I love that they. That they. This is so random, but. So when you are on Drag Race, often they will ask the queens in our interviews to describe what's happening on screen. So it'd be like, oh, describe the rules. And I know. I don't know, but I assume that every queen described the rules of the lip sync smackdown. And it says a lot that Irene is the one they chose to actually do it. Irene. That says that Irene. Her level of communication is really fierce and people want to hear her. And I know that's such a weird note to make, but I just love they chose Irene to explain the rules to seated ranking.
Naomi Smalls
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because I didn't know what seated ranking was.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the way that she said it actually clicked.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. I mean, it's not a glass of water, but she explained it really well.
Naomi Smalls
She's such a bro. She is such a dude. And I think she, like, is actually self proclaimed bro.
Bob the Drag Queen
So Ginger is ranked number one. Let's go to the ranking list. So Ginger's number one. People are most nervous about Ginger Minj, who you would put at the end.
Naomi Smalls
When it comes to actually performing.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love the crown.
Naomi Smalls
Yes. A Lip Sync battle for the crown.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Naomi Smalls
I'm not thinking Ginger is number one.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I mean, spoiler alert.
Naomi Smalls
She is spoiler alert. She is for sure. It must keep going.
Bob the Drag Queen
Number two, we have Lydia B. Collins. This really shocked me. This shocked me the most. I would put Lydia right in the middle of the pack. Yeah, middle, like, super middle of the pack ranking. I, I, I, I am shocked that everyone's like this. I don't know how much of this is strategic. I don't know if this cause girls want to go against L. I don't know what what this is, but I'm shocked that that Lydia is above George's. Lydia's above Aja. Lydia's above Bosco. That little walk really got them together. That little walk with him, with her little cookie monster walk. So number three is Jorgeous, who I would say Jorgeous is a certified lip sync assassin 1000% at this point on the show. And then in fourth place, you have Diabetti. Fifth place, Bosco. I would've put Bosco a little higher. And then sixth, Aja, I would put Aja's number two.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, for sure.
Bob the Drag Queen
Um, seventh is Irene. And then eighth place is Keri Colby, which I agree with osa.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, I mean, I get that.
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Bob the Drag Queen
So up first. So Bruno is there. Well, let's talk about Ru's outfit. What do you think I'm going to say?
Naomi Smalls
I mean, green is like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't you fuck with me. She's not wearing green.
Naomi Smalls
Yes, she is.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, she's green.
Naomi Smalls
What color do you see?
Bob the Drag Queen
That's not green.
Irene the Alien
That's absolutely green.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're doing a bit. Y' all are doing a bit. Kane, what color is this dress? It's literally don't be on their team.
Naomi Smalls
It's like this lead K. Jake, I.
Bob the Drag Queen
See you looking at him. That's a silver dress.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, you're actually, you're right, it is silver.
Bob the Drag Queen
What is this bit? That's not a green dress. That's a silver dress. Yeah, it is silver.
Naomi Smalls
Totally.
Bob the Drag Queen
Nene. What color is this dress? How is it green? Andy wouldn't lie to me. Andy. Andy, come tell me what color this dress is. Andy would not lie to me. Andy would not be part of yalls bit.
Naomi Smalls
Andy.
Irene the Alien
And to clarify, this is Andy, our social media dress.
Naomi Smalls
Green.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes. The silver one. Pink.
Naomi Smalls
Where pink. Where pink come from?
Bob the Drag Queen
Now we got a whole new in the group. Pink. Is this. Is this going to be the new blue and white? Blue.
Naomi Smalls
Blue.
Bob the Drag Queen
Black dress?
Naomi Smalls
No. It's really not that crazy. It's definitely green.
Bob the Drag Queen
Anyway, I'm not falling for your. For your shenanigan. I. There's probably a text between you two. This dress is silver. It is stunning.
Naomi Smalls
And just thinking the worst negative things about the people you love.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes.
Naomi Smalls
Is. Whoa. There's something about being in this position that I'm starting to gaslight.
Bob the Drag Queen
Exactly. It's the chair. I love this chipotle burrito couture. I RuPaul loves to show you that she has pockets.
Naomi Smalls
She really do RuPaul.
Bob the Drag Queen
And it has pockets, which is always like she's selling a garment on Depop.
Naomi Smalls
No, she looks gorgeous. She looks gorgeous. I love that hair too. The hair actually gives me. Acacia forgot little bit.
Bob the Drag Queen
A little bit.
Naomi Smalls
I don't think Acacia forgot owns this wig specifically, but there's something about this that gave me Acacia.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know what to say about what Michelle's wearing. I don't think I like this.
Naomi Smalls
So then let's just say nothing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. I don't like this outfit and I'm not going to talk about the guys because they are kind of dressed boringly, but they look nice.
Irene the Alien
Do Angeria now.
Naomi Smalls
She.
Irene the Alien
She comes out right before they crown the winner.
Bob the Drag Queen
We'll talk. Well, let's go and do Angeria then. Angeria is where I. I will say this Anger normally wears really stunning clothes and this is not one of those outfits. I don't like the shape of this. I don't know what story is telling.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, I mean, I. I do love her hair, though.
Bob the Drag Queen
Her hair looks so cool.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, her hair is very.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love that.
Naomi Smalls
I like that glove curve spike thing happening too.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, that is really cute. Yeah, there are cute elements. I. I think it's the white part that I don't like.
Naomi Smalls
I think it's that straight across line at the.
Bob the Drag Queen
At the. By the mermaid.
Naomi Smalls
At the mermaid.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Naomi Smalls
That's what it is. Tough. It's a really tough thing to take in, um.
Bob the Drag Queen
So let's get into the lip sync smackdown for the crown. So Ginger Minj, her ball is chosen by Bruno, and then that means that Ginger Minj. So Ginger Minj, number one, is going off against Kerri Colby, number eight, which seems shady, right? But it feels like whoever's number eight does not stand a fighting chance.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. I don't know why they played it like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
It should be 1 and 2, 3 and 4, 5 and 6, 7 and 8.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
1 and 8 is crazy because then you're just.
Naomi Smalls
If you're basing it off rank a queen. They're not on even playing fields at all. At all.
Bob the Drag Queen
At all. But Ginger Minj chooses to go for disease by Lady Gaga. What song do you think you would chose?
Naomi Smalls
Probably the disease by Lady Gaga or. Oh, whenever. Whenever. Wherever by Shakira.
Bob the Drag Queen
That is a great song.
Naomi Smalls
I felt that that would have been my song.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think I will say only thing about that song is, like, those words are so hard to understand because the way Shakira sings and her, like, kind of like Shakira voice. Yeah. The frogginess of it all.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's hard to understand the words, but.
Naomi Smalls
I feel we also all know the words somehow. Like, that's the truth.
Bob the Drag Queen
I do not. I did not have a Shakira birthday cake. I did not know the words.
Naomi Smalls
That was the cutest thing ever, by the way.
Bob the Drag Queen
I do you know a song, you know, slept Shakira song? Her song with Beyonce. Beautiful liar.
Naomi Smalls
Oh, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God, he's the one. So good. They kept switching places back and forth because you couldn't tell who was who.
Naomi Smalls
Up against the wall. Their bodies look amazing.
Bob the Drag Queen
That video y' all go back and watch is truly a masterpiece. Cuz they keep having Shakir and Beyonce swap places over and over again because they're dressed the exact same. They're almost the exact same complexion. Their hair is done the same. It is visual mastery.
Naomi Smalls
Kind of like us today, literally.
Bob the Drag Queen
There actually is a moment where me and Monet did this in the soak it up music video where we were swapping spots because we had on the same makeup, the same hair, but different versions of the same dress. And we kept swapping spots a little. A little. What do you call them? Easter egg.
Naomi Smalls
For you all. Sure. So, I mean, what song would you have chose, by the way?
Bob the Drag Queen
I. Okay, so I have a theory. The way smackdown for the crown works is there's a few ways you can dress. You can dress in, like, generic reveal so that each round you can have something different. To wear. Or you could dress for one number and just hope you get it, which I think we saw. Yeah, with Bosco. We'll get there. I would probably do the generic dress so I can. Generic outfits so I can be comfortable. And because of that, the song I would really want to do would be Burlesque. Show Me how youw Burlesque. That's the song I would want to do. Um, I also. I mean, there were so many great songs in here. This is some of my favorite songs, actually. Joyride.
Naomi Smalls
Oh, yeah. Joyride's a great drag song.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would have loved to have done Joyride. Loved to have done Joyride. Um, but I think I still would have pictured my Uberless, though.
Naomi Smalls
Mm.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. So Ginger Mint chooses Disease by Lady Gaga. I gotta say. Let's go with her looks for a second. I love this coat Ginger's wearing.
Naomi Smalls
I am obsessed with the hair that she's wearing.
Bob the Drag Queen
This denim, like, coat looks so cool. I. It is, like, beautifully distressed. Her titty bib match is, like, so on point. And the hiding of it with the necklaces is really fucking good. Um, we'll get to later. I don't like what she revealed to, but I fucking love this outfit.
Naomi Smalls
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I think she looks great.
Naomi Smalls
I think her hair and her hair and decolletage are amazing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's go over to Carrie. I don't understand what's happening.
Naomi Smalls
Me neither.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, why are there ties? Is that a reveal?
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, like the. The tie. The tie tie. Why was that there?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, but they're also the bottom of her dress is all ties. Did you notice that?
Naomi Smalls
Oh, no, I didn't.
Bob the Drag Queen
So that trim ties. So is there a reveal going on that goes to more ties?
Naomi Smalls
I don't know. The styling on this is really tough, though. Like the chopsticks in the hair and you're doing the school girl vibe.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. And during her untucked, she says, like, I didn't lay my hair down because I knew it had been messy. And she let it down and it was a mess. Like, there is one shot when the girls are all congratulating Ginger man. And it shoots over to her and she's being backlit. And she has so many flyaways.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
And like it it. But also, if you knew be messy, why'd you do it? Was the point to have the updo bun?
Naomi Smalls
This is the song to have a little mess too. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
If you're going to be. Then you could have combed your hair while the other girl's lip syncing.
Naomi Smalls
Right.
Bob the Drag Queen
Um, I do feel like, this lip sync could have gone either way. Like, I don't think that Ginger crushed it. I think it's easy to justify a Ginger win. Um, I think Ginger edged her out a little bit because I like her. I. I think she's visually more interesting. I think that she's emoting a little bit or her movements are more interesting to me. And I also feel like Carrie's, like, was trying to maybe save the chopsticks for round two.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. I think that's why she didn't do it.
Bob the Drag Queen
But you don't always make it around two.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. I think that Carrie, like, she, like, performs in her head, but she's not thinking about, like, what she looks like when she's performing. She's almost, like, staring at the ground and, like, oh, that is interesting.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, watching, like. Like. Like in New York City, when you watch where you walk and see on step and poop.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. Yeah. She, like, is, like, never makes eye contact with the judges. Like, she's always just kind of looking around. And that. That, to me, always looks like a lack of confidence when you're performing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Except during the talent show on her season, where she did the jump rope number. And I was like. Because of how great she was in that performance, I thought I was. I was expecting that from her with every other performance she'd done, but I don't feel like I've ever seen that from her own Drag Race again. That jump rope talent was so good, and she was so confident, and I can tell that she probably grew up jump roping or was maybe on a jump rope team or something. But you can just watch that. Like, her level of confidence in this jump rope number is. Oh, my God, Lizzo looks so good. I forgot how good Lizzo looks.
Naomi Smalls
So good. Yeah, that Lizzo look is true.
Bob the Drag Queen
Damn, Lizzo looks amazing. Anyway. Yeah, like, this is just so good. And I just feel like we have not seen this from her since this performance, quite frankly.
Naomi Smalls
Right.
Bob the Drag Queen
And honestly, this. This kind of told me, like, oh, Bosco's gonna. Not Bosco. Carrie's gonna be, like, a front runner. And she ended up not being. But anyway, Ginger Minj wins, and I. I agree with this win. I. It would have been weird if. If Keri Colby had won this lip sync, in my opinion.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. I think it was just a weird thing to put them against each other.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. I agree. It did not seem fair to Kerri Colby at all. So let's go on to lip sync number two. We have second place versus seventh place, which is Lydia Butthole. Collins versus Irene the alien. And Irene feels like this strategy worked for her. Irene was like, my strategy. It worked out just like I thought I would. I wanted to go against Lydia and I got her. I guess this was her. Her choice. Like, why would. Because she felt like she could take Lydia in a lip sync.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. That's kind of bold.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you said you should be able to take any queen with any song, so.
Naomi Smalls
Well, you should. But let's get real.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're like, but I'm not Lydia.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. I'm not either of them.
Bob the Drag Queen
That is a bold claim.
Naomi Smalls
It is a bold claim. I do think that Lydia has a better track record when it comes to performing than Irene, for sure. So I'm curious where she got that. This look that Irene chose to wear.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's talk about it. Let's wake it up.
Naomi Smalls
Is.
Bob the Drag Queen
I do not understand anything about this look. I don't. I don't like Yirene's look. I don't like the hair with the look. I don't like these big piniers. I get that she's trying to, like, make space for her spikes on her catsuit underneath. I don't like. I do not like this look. I just don't like it. My God, I. I just hate this look.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. I mean, I think that there's a. This, like, not delusion. I don't know what you want to call it, but this, like, misconception when it comes to wigs, that if it's human, it looks good and it should be worn for a lip sync performance.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Naomi Smalls
This was not the hair for this outfit.
Bob the Drag Queen
I agree.
Naomi Smalls
Not the hair for this cover up. You almost want something that's going to be, like, so out of face and you don't have to think about it for this, like, lollaparuza situation.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I agree. This is not a good. This is not a good. I don't. I don't like this look. And the reveals were so clunky and so expected. And I mean, here's the thing. When you do a reveal, I think the reveal should be one of a few things. Nudity I've given. These are my rules for the reveal. You should be nude. It should be hilarious. It should be stunning. One of those three things. And sometimes you can do all three at once.
Naomi Smalls
Right.
Bob the Drag Queen
You should be butt ass naked. It should be hilarious. Or it needs to be absolutely stunning. Meaning it has to look so much better than the one you had on before.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what I mean? And I don't think that, quite frankly, I Don't think anyone's revealed.
Naomi Smalls
Well, I thought George's had a. Bosco gave that. Oh yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Bosco's the only one who followed that reveal rule, in my opinion. And I think that George's reveal to you was nice, but it wasn't like super duper stunning. Like it wasn't.
Naomi Smalls
It was just like fluid.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like what Bosca had on was like, holy shit. Right now if George's had revealed that gown she wore when she reentered the bracket, that's stunning. I'm like, oh. Or would she wore to the crowning.
Naomi Smalls
Or wear that gown that spins out into what she ended up wearing here?
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you see what she wore to the crowning?
Naomi Smalls
Oh, yeah. She looked gorgeous.
Bob the Drag Queen
Whoa. I have never seen a dress like that in my life.
Naomi Smalls
I want to know which came first, the production of that dress or Lauren Sanchez getting married in Italy. Because it's like a dupe of Lauren Sanchez.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't even know who that is.
Naomi Smalls
It's his wife, Jeff Bezos. Your friend Jeff.
Bob the Drag Queen
My buddy. My buddy Bezos.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. That's the dress, you know. So I'm curious like what came. Oh, well, I know the Schiaparelli collection obviously came first, but I wonder what she's referencing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Interesting. Yeah, I did not know they're reference and I think it looks really cute. She looks so good. All right, let's be real.
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Naomi Smalls
I like this look. I think this look is cool. Like, it's very. It's something I haven't seen before. It's a very wild decision to do a lip sync competition in this.
Bob the Drag Queen
I agree.
Naomi Smalls
A gown to start for the lip sync competition is bold. And then this skirt just, like, drops, right?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, it just falls off. Yeah.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. I don't. I hate. I hate when the skirts do that.
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't like the drop skirt.
Naomi Smalls
I hate that. Like, when you have to, like, step.
Bob the Drag Queen
Out of something, you rather tear away.
Naomi Smalls
Like, I think it should have a slit down the middle that you just tear it or on the side or it should look effortless when you're doing a reveal. Not, like, don't mind me. I need to get. Just give me one second.
Bob the Drag Queen
I need, you know, if it drops and you step out of it easily, but when you shimmy and your foot gets caught.
Naomi Smalls
I think the drop might just need, like, a little kick to get it off of the stage. And then I'd be like, okay, sure.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, speaking of getting off the stage, Irene girl, this moment was so un. Okay.
Naomi Smalls
Oh, my God. Yes. I forgot about this.
Bob the Drag Queen
So Irene was like, I got all my tricks, and she does a cartwheel. When you say all my tricks and you do a cartwheel, baby, A cartwheel is not all your trick. If. If all your tricks start with a cartwheel, baby. It's a rap, baby. It's a rap. And then she starts to, like, dance, and then she steps on the. The skirt and it. And then she does, like, a hip dive, hits the floor, and tries to save it by doing that thing where. Where, you know when you was a kid and you act like you did yoga, and you push yourself up on your. Your feet, and you start kicking your feet. It is so. And I know. I know when she hit the floor, she was like, there's no way she thought, I can come back from this.
Naomi Smalls
No, no. But she did try hard.
Bob the Drag Queen
She did try. She started humping the floor, and then she did the crunchiest duck walk, slash crotch bounce, where you crouch down and, like, bounce. But it's, like, not a duck walk, but it's not a crotch. I don't know what it was, but it's coming up, and it is just. I don't know, was. I'm so uncomfortable. I'm so uncomfortable.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, my. Like, when I was a kid, I used to watch the, like, Olympics with my mom, and, like, whenever an ice skater would, like, fall, she would, like, grab me and, like, you know.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Naomi Smalls
Like, that's how I felt doing this. Like, you've worked so hard to get to this point, and that fall just.
Bob the Drag Queen
Fucked you up, and that fall ate her ass. It is so. I mean, it's a full, like, life alert. Like, if someone Ru's age would have felt like that, she would have broken a hip. Totally like that. I love when it cuts to Carson.
Naomi Smalls
Because, you know, he felt that he heard that girl.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm gonna say this. When you reach a certain age, falling. Watching someone fall affects you different, for sure. Like, there was an age where I could jump in the air, like, my feet tucked under my body and just land on my knees and then get up and keep moving. Like it was a thing I could do.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. Oh, my God, stop.
Bob the Drag Queen
Just. It was like just now. Okay, you're so dramatic. You're so dramatic. But nowadays, even watching Lady Gaga. Cause we're the same age. Watching Lady Gaga hit the ground during Abracadabra, I was like, that must. That had to be the last take, right? I know. I know the guy. I was like, shoot everything. Cause, baby, when I hit the ground, when I tell you dead Ass. This will be the last thing we shoot. I. I don't. I. Obviously, I was not there. I have a friend who was there since the beginning. I have a friend who was there. So I should ask. But when she fucking hits the ground on her knees, like she does a spin and then drops down to the ground. It's coming up, up. I'm like, there's no way on earth she got up and started dancing after. You just passed it. There's no way she got up and started dancing after that. There's no way. Honestly, there's no way she's gonna start dancing after that. She's almost 40 years old.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. That's crazy. Also, the leggings would be dirty for the rest of the music video. So I think you're right.
Bob the Drag Queen
And she doesn't do it on tour. You won't catch you doing it on tour. You will not.
Naomi Smalls
From that angle. It could be a body double.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, actually. And Gaga, I see you as a millennial. I see mama. I see you. You are valid. And I'll see you in San Francisco very soon. Back to the lip sync. I love when Lydia starts swinging her mace around. That was really cunty and kind of cool.
Naomi Smalls
Like, she's wearing things I've never seen on Drag Race. Like that whole cock piece.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah, the cod piece with the spikes coming out.
Naomi Smalls
Is it cod?
Bob the Drag Queen
The cod piece. C O D code.
Naomi Smalls
Why? What's fishy about it?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think it's a.
Naomi Smalls
It's a cock.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's called a codpiece.
Irene the Alien
It is. It's like old medieval slang.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know why they call it a cod piece. It just is, but. So you ever see those Shakespearean plays and the guys have that weird, like, bulbousy looking crotch?
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes. A codpiece.
Naomi Smalls
Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know why it's called a cod piece. Cod.
Irene the Alien
It's the old. The middle. Like the old 16th century. Like medieval slang for balls.
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe. Cot came from code.
Naomi Smalls
You think she's tucked underneath that?
Bob the Drag Queen
That would be silly if she was. I'm trying to wonder, when does Lydia decide to pad? I just don't know when it is because she is the one who does pad sometimes and doesn't pad sometimes.
Naomi Smalls
And I kind of like it here. Maybe because there's a waist and she's, like, corseted.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's probably why I will say Irene's body looks so fucking good.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Irene's body is so fucking good. Yeah. Lydia wins, obviously.
Naomi Smalls
The hair is so cool, too.
Bob the Drag Queen
The hair is very Cool. Why would you lip sync him as hair? I do not know. The choices she made to move around in are crazy to me. Like, she can't even lay on her stomach.
Naomi Smalls
I know. I think in a lollaparuza. Yes. I mean, a reveal is so impactful when it's done. Right. But I do think it's kind of cut. Like, I wish they would give them all. You have to wear, like the same thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
If everyone gets leotard.
Naomi Smalls
If everyone gets a leotard. And then we really have a smackdown.
Bob the Drag Queen
Or a lip sync. In your fucking racing outfits that you all wore for the promo pictures.
Naomi Smalls
Yes. Hello. The budget was. It was already in the budget.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was already. That you already have them.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
I will say this. I had. I'll tell you at the end of what I would have done, maybe it would have been against the rules. I would try, but, you know, I don't ask for permission.
Naomi Smalls
And you shouldn't. Any. Any queen going into this, do not ask for it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's go up to lip sync. Number three. It is. First of all, I agree with the win. Do you agree with the win?
Naomi Smalls
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
So far we agree with both the wins.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
So we have Jorgeous versus Aja. Let's talk about her looks real quick. So Jorgeous is wearing what looks like a high, low dress. It's obviously reveal. It's got a big fat zipper right up the front. Like a big old chunker of a zipper right up front.
Naomi Smalls
She's ready for battle.
Bob the Drag Queen
And Aja is wearing a nun's habit and dress.
Naomi Smalls
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
I actually like the nuns habit. I just don't like that the. The, The. The. It's stuffed. Yeah.
Naomi Smalls
It's weird that it's made out of sequin or vinyl or whatever the hell that is.
Bob the Drag Queen
I feel like she was dressed for disease.
Naomi Smalls
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Cause Gaga does a lot of Catholic iconography in her. In her work. And when it become this. This song by Natalie Cole. Yeah, I don't like that. I just don't like what's going on with the headpiece for this. I think what it is is the top is like a latex look and the bottom is a sequin. I don't think latex can go together very well.
Naomi Smalls
Gotcha. I mean, it would have been great for disease. You're right. It totally would have been great for disease.
Bob the Drag Queen
And apparently she had fans hidden in her. In her.
Naomi Smalls
I saw that in untucked.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. I don't even know where they are.
Naomi Smalls
Maybe on the sleeves or maybe she's like from the house. Of, you know, Aja, where it's like, I've got this train. It's the longest train we've ever seen.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. Do you believe in. Do you believe in the My of the Kandy muse? Longest train ever?
Naomi Smalls
Oh, I don't want to be involved in this. I just want to make jokes about it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because bcala, if you're watching confirm bcala, you have the opportunity to put this to rest. You designers, you all take pictures. If you made a trail, you take a picture, Right? So, Biala, you can help your girl out. You're choosing not to.
Naomi Smalls
Just saying.
Bob the Drag Queen
Anyway.
Naomi Smalls
Fierce.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. I think their outfits are. The only thing I don't like is that Aja's. The hat that she's wearing with her. With her. With her outfit.
Naomi Smalls
I think that this was actually, though, the closest lip sync of the night, in my opinion.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, yeah, this. And, yeah, you might be right, actually. Yeah, I think you're right. This was pretty close. Although I think that the first one was pretty close too. But it just made more sense for Ginger Bench to win because, visually, she was more appealing to me. Um, that being said, George's chooses Party Likes by Natalie Cole. Um, I think they're both doing a great job. Um, I feel like Aja had a hard time with her outfit in the beginning.
Naomi Smalls
She did have a hard time in her. With her outfit. I see. I wish she just started like this.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Which might be how George has edged her out. Um, I wish Aja had done their running split. Going downstage instead of going upstage.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. There's no camera back there. Boo.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Who are you performing for, Sarge? And then George's does this beautiful leap.
Naomi Smalls
That, like, windmill kick.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, it was. It was stunning. It was really a beautiful. It's. I actually rewound to. To watch that. I actually think that that's better. To me, that's more impressive than her twisting dip. She does a lot.
Naomi Smalls
I. Yeah. I think this is actually one of the, like, my favorite times I've seen Jorgeous perform on Drag Race. Like, I feel like this song is so her. This is such a smart decision for her.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Georges contacts are so big. Like, they're so much larger than her actual irises that I think it makes her have a slightly uncanny valley look.
Naomi Smalls
Mm. Like a little dad in the eye.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like a doll. Like, she looks like a. Like a doll that can talk.
Naomi Smalls
I think she would honestly love that compliment.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Her. Cause I was looking last night, I was like, my God, her. Her irises are giant, gigantic.
Naomi Smalls
I think she Would take that as a compliment.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Yeah. I think that where. Where George's edged Aja out was Aja decide started in a clunky outfit that didn't match the number at all. She did that split to the back. It should have been to the front. But those few moments are, I think, what gave Jorge's the edge. Jorgeous did do a pretty good job. I don't think that reveal was necessary. The taking off the skirt, the high, low part of the thing was just so unnecessary. It was so throwaway, in my opinion. But it didn't hurt the performance at all.
Naomi Smalls
But I think that Jorgeous this season, I've, like, just noticed, like, she's taken notes from her past. Notes that you can only have when you have competed multiple times. It's like she knows. Let's take off an element here. I'm still gonna have an element for the next one. And there's still gonna be a final.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Which worked in her favor.
Naomi Smalls
I think it was smart.
Bob the Drag Queen
But Georgia's wins. I agree with that. Do you agree with that?
Naomi Smalls
I do agree with that.
Bob the Drag Queen
I just said she felt like she's crumbling inside, but I gotta say, she's holding her head up so well. She is doing such a good job at just being in the moment and not letting it. She's done a lot of personal growth for sure.
Naomi Smalls
If this was season nine, it could probably be a completely different option.
Bob the Drag Queen
Crash out.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, crash. And we would love that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, Crash Bandicootagia for sure. Let's go on to the Mollywop of.
Naomi Smalls
The episode when you start crying before the lip sync.
Bob the Drag Queen
Diabet in fourth place, Bosco in fifth place. Which is the most, in theory, the most even match of the evening. And what ends up. Oh, my God. Like, just as they pick the ball, it's Bosco and Bosco. So before it starts, diabetes crying. Cause she's like, this is my best friend here. She taught me so much about life and about how to be a sister and yada, yada, yada. That is very cute and very charming.
Naomi Smalls
Very cute. Death to Crystal Method. Death to Lux Queen. Like, she has a drag family.
Bob the Drag Queen
Those hoes mean nothing to her, honey.
Naomi Smalls
But I do understand the answer.
Bob the Drag Queen
I never had sisters in drag. Never. Until I got on drag Race. Crystal Method, my ass, baby. When Bosco has Bosco won the motherfucking lip sync lottery.
Naomi Smalls
A choice. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Bosco is just standing there dressed in a burlesque costume. And there is a song on the list called show me how you burlesque. And she is the One who gets to choose the song.
Naomi Smalls
Ideal. Ideal.
Bob the Drag Queen
The. The drag gods love Bosco.
Naomi Smalls
I mean, she could, because she has every right to go different.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah. But someone else. Someone else could have chosen Burlesque.
Naomi Smalls
Totally. No, I think the song choice is probably the most legit part of this.
Bob the Drag Queen
I thought you just said it better.
Naomi Smalls
No, being able to choose the song, like, just. Just being able. It doesn't matter. But for these girls, like, being able to choose a song is the most fair thing in this night.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Once. Once Bosco chose Robbie Burlesque. I then knew there. I could have just skipped ahead.
Naomi Smalls
What? Do you think you could take her in this one? Is this, like, one of those. Like.
Bob the Drag Queen
I do think. I. I think if I had time to plan.
Naomi Smalls
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
I could. I could think of a burlesque number that I think would. Would, in my opinion, beat what Bosco did here, which I know people think I'm crazy, but I. Yes, I could have.
Naomi Smalls
Same for sure. That's. That's how I feel about it, too.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. That being said, so we had another step out of the skirt, a wiggle step. Diabetti is wearing, like, a pencil skirt, basically.
Naomi Smalls
This was a weird outfit to wear for a lollaparu this year.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, let's talk about the look. So I just don't. For the most part, I typically normally like what Dayabetti's wearing. I don't get this look. I don't. What's up with the cigarettes cross?
Naomi Smalls
Is it supposed to be like Marilyn Monroe but make it, like, punk?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I guess. But there's no big bow on the back. I feel like a big. See, she wiggled out and. And.
Naomi Smalls
And, oh, she kicked, but then she.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got her foot caught, which had to step out of it.
Naomi Smalls
Right.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't get this look that. That diabetes wearing. I don't like this look that diabetes wearing. Um, I just. I don't understand. The cigarettes.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. What the hell was that?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know. She keeps smoking the cigarettes.
Naomi Smalls
It's not lit either. So, like, what the fuck are you doing?
Bob the Drag Queen
And why is your cross made of cigarettes? I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't like this shape around the bottom of her because everybody has, like, really beautiful legs. Like, probably the best legs in this cast.
Naomi Smalls
I was gonna say. Watch out.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no, no, that's not crazy. But they just go on forever and ever.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I love that she showed them eventually, but, like.
Naomi Smalls
I know, but she has, like, a garter and a stocking And a thigh high or. And a knee high boot. It's a lot of, like, a beautiful.
Bob the Drag Queen
Long neck and she's covering up with this chunky pearl necklace. I don't like this look. I just don't like what's going on. I don't approve.
Naomi Smalls
Love the pink eyes, though. Those are cool.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I always love diabetes hair. It's always stuff I would never do, but I'm like, I love that on her.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's not always a few. I would do this one. I would not. But it looks good on her, though.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think Bosco's look is really great.
Naomi Smalls
Just perfect.
Bob the Drag Queen
I do wish that Bosco was one of the girls who could make her titties bounce. Gives me the girls implants and they make their titties, like, jump.
Naomi Smalls
Like Giselle Barbara, you know, it was.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, if her titties would have been like.
Naomi Smalls
I know, I know.
Bob the Drag Queen
If her titties were bouncing on their own, I keep dancing. If her titties were hitting the robin, I mean, it was already 10. It would have been a 20 at that point. Diabetty didn't stand a chance. The moment that. Okay, I will say this. When Bosco revealed her garment, there's a chance Diabete could have done something. Once she pulled the fans from her.
Naomi Smalls
Hat, it was a wrap.
Bob the Drag Queen
I wouldn't have given up, like, visually, but I would have resigned in my head.
Naomi Smalls
Right? You're like, all right, just get prepared. What am I ordering for dinner tonight?
Bob the Drag Queen
You remember when Thorgy held up Chi Chi's hand?
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. Literally that. Literally that. A cartwheel to. And I am telling you, like, when she.
Bob the Drag Queen
When Bosco pulled those fans out of that hat, it was such a sickening moment. And then when she laid her ass on that motherfucking ground, the clamshell, and did the.
Naomi Smalls
That was fierce.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is the best performance of the season.
Naomi Smalls
Just Bosco. Yes. Yes, 1000.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is the best performance of the season. This is what happens when you are lip syncing your own number and not worried about what's happening next to you. You're not doing stuff to make fun of them. You're not trying to reference them. If you digitally CGI'd diabete out of this, this is a great number in and of itself.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, for sure. I think that's how everyone should perform.
Bob the Drag Queen
I agree.
Naomi Smalls
Perform for the camera, perform for the judges, perform for yourself, obviously. But, like, do not perform and include the girl next to you unless it's really context. Unless you're Carmen and Raja.
Bob the Drag Queen
I can Think of one scenario where it's been really good, and it was when Peppermint did the shotgun to Cynthia during music. Because I don't know if y' all remember this or not. This was so cunty. Peppermint said. She said, oh, this is what I do for a living. I'm actually nervous. Recipient. I don't know if y' all remember that, but it cuts to Peppermint, and she goes, I'm actually nervous for Cynthia. As someone who's a Peppermint super fan. I know she meant that shit. And then there's a part in the music where she goes, uh, uh, uh. Where it's like, music. And then the beat slows down and Pep does the shotgun, turns to Cynthia, blasts her away, licks her finger, and keeps walking. Unless you're gonna do it like that, right? Don't do it.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
In my opinion.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah. No, I agree. I absolutely agree.
Irene the Alien
How do we feel about the shoe?
Bob the Drag Queen
I was gonna say.
Naomi Smalls
I was gonna. You know what? I bit my tongue earlier, and I was like, you know what? Fuck it. She looks so hot. That is abysmal.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. It's a hideous shoe.
Naomi Smalls
Is it a 1 inch? Like, what is that heel on it?
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I don't know if she. I don't know if Lydia gave. If Lydia had these to. To remember Corey King. I don't know if Lydia had him in the back to, like, feel good about her man being gone. And Bosco said, ooh, this shoe is hideous.
Naomi Smalls
This is like, why not a black shoe? Why not a silver shoe?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I hate this shoe. That being said, this was the Mollywop of the season. This was so fucking good. Every time I cut back to diabetic, I feel bad. When she had a little hop move that she was doing.
Naomi Smalls
At least she tried.
Bob the Drag Queen
She did try. Obviously, Bosco won. No one's shocked. I agree with that win. Do you agree with that win?
Naomi Smalls
I definitely agree with that win.
Bob the Drag Queen
But then I immediately feel bad for Bosco because Bosco has to turn around and do it again. Back to back is crazy.
Naomi Smalls
I think they did this to her on her original season, too.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did they? I can't remember.
Naomi Smalls
They, like, made her, like, back to back lip sync. Maybe more than twice.
Bob the Drag Queen
They hit her with a Drake. Back to back. She had to turn around and do it again. So this time, she's going to miss Ginger Minj. Um, I will say this. So Ginger gets to choose the song. She chooses to raise your glass. Ginger does this thing where she says stuff. I'm like, what the fuck did you mean by that? She goes, I know I look like Shakira. What the fuck does that mean?
Naomi Smalls
Because she's.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is the joke that she doesn't like Shakira. But also, why didn't she say earlier? I know I look like Lady Gaga. Like, she could have said, like, I just don't get why she said that. I just wish she hadn't said it. But she did say it. But also, why did they feel they need to include that? They could have edited around that.
Naomi Smalls
I think she just. Sometimes she just talks to talk.
Bob the Drag Queen
Always a bit coming from me. That's rich. I know.
Naomi Smalls
But there's a punchline with your bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
Y' all don't know how many jokes. I don't say. That's a filtration process, believe it or not.
Naomi Smalls
So she is. She is so razor glass. Like, she is such a razor glass queen. Like, that is a razor glass bitch if I ever seen one.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I immediately feel bad for Bosco. One, she has to do it back to back. And two, the only other song she could probably lip sync in this outfit and have it make sense would be destroyed. And that's already gone. Like, I feel like one, the headpiece is so heavy. She can't even lean her head forward.
Naomi Smalls
I know. That's the only thing that I wish was different about her costume was just like that. That headpiece came off.
Bob the Drag Queen
She also can't separate her legs because this is chained.
Naomi Smalls
Right?
Bob the Drag Queen
So she. This outfit is very. I will say the mistake she made was having an outfit that you can only do one performance in. Because now she can't separate her legs. She can't do. She can't do this. She can't even lean her head forward. I don't know why she didn't think to be able to make this take off her head. I don't know why she. I don't. I don't know why she did that. What part of the song was that again? I just remember thinking myself, that doesn't make any sense.
Naomi Smalls
There was a part in this lip sync where they, like, definitely wanted to showcase that Ginger was doing better, quote, unquote. And she, like, looks around, confused Bosco. And I was like, why they had to include that? It was like the weirdest, like, zoom in shot, too.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I do think she's doing better than Bosco. Like, Bosco. Yeah, Ginger is doing better than Bosco. I think that. I think that Ginger Minj is the target demographic for Pink, for sure. Like, Ginger Minj is at the arena while Pink Is flying above her head. Is she. Is she's. Is she has, like, one of those tall cocktails.
Naomi Smalls
No. This is, like, closing number at 11pm seating a brunch.
Bob the Drag Queen
No. And not only is Ginger at the Pink concert, Ginger recommends that we do a Pink song, right? She goes, oh, we should open the show with get this party started.
Naomi Smalls
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what I mean?
Naomi Smalls
And then into so what? And then into. Yeah, right.
Bob the Drag Queen
But wait, I like Pink. To be clear, my favorite Pink song is Glitter in the air.
Naomi Smalls
Mm.
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't know that one.
Naomi Smalls
Don't know it. I know you in your hand. I think I like that song.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know that one one.
Naomi Smalls
It's like, I'm not going to be with you, so have fun masturbating. That's like the. Oh, work moral of the story.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, have you ever loved someone so much that you just. Have you ever. No, it's like, have you ever done these things because of, like, you're so in love and, like, you ever just tossed a fistful of glitter in the air?
Naomi Smalls
That sounds like brunch, too.
Bob the Drag Queen
The song is really, I swear is her best song. Have you ever.
Naomi Smalls
She's kind of rude.
Bob the Drag Queen
Pink.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
How?
Naomi Smalls
I mean, I'm rude, too, but, like, like, she's kind of a.
Bob the Drag Queen
How she.
Naomi Smalls
Like, like, in the early days, she was like, these girls being scantily clad, like Christina and Brittany. Stupid girls. The song. Yes. Even, like, stupid girls. And I'm like, if you look back, like, Pink was fully in bikinis and box braids.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, was she in burlesque with Christina wearing something slutty?
Naomi Smalls
No. Oh, that was Lady Marmalade, I think. I mean, yeah, I think they fought on that set, too. Oh, she's also my birthday twin, so.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, is she?
Naomi Smalls
Sup, bestie?
Bob the Drag Queen
Sup? What. What. What sign is that?
Naomi Smalls
Virgo.
Bob the Drag Queen
Virgo. Yeah. I, I think that Ginger just did a better job on this song. I don't think that Bosco stood a chance between her outfit and going up against a pink girly. Um, I, I, I just don't. I, I couldn't have seen an outcome where Bosco would have won this against Ginger Minj. And I do think that Ginger Minj won a slip sync. Do you agree with that?
Naomi Smalls
On a curve.
Bob the Drag Queen
On a curve. But you still agree. Next, let's go on to Jorgeous versus Lydia Butthole Collins. So Lydia is like, well, what you all don't know. Am I bad? Cause you all thinking because she's fucking Latina, she's gonna be the one motherfucker but you don't know is I had a Shakira birthday cake. Okay.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can she dance? Can George's. Yeah. Did she have a Shakira birthday cake? Quickly. I'm obsessed with this lore, this deep lore.
Naomi Smalls
And the photo that they showed is so adorable.
Bob the Drag Queen
It is very cute.
Naomi Smalls
Like, so adorable. Cuz, like, like there's a difference when you just say something outlandish like Lydia and they have proof.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Naomi Smalls
It's a cute moment. Instead of like red shoes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Red shoes. Yes. My trophy shoes. Do you know that? Okay, a lot of people don't know this. Girls who have secret lures to their, like, favorite artists that people don't know about. I don't know if I'm allowed to say this actually. Whatever. It doesn't matter. Kimchi is a Madonna Stan.
Naomi Smalls
She is a Madonna Stan.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, knows every word to every song. Monet X change is a Britney Spears stand. A lot of people know that Monet is like a deep, deep Britney Stan. I'm trying to think of anyone else like that, but like, but Kim doesn't do a lot of Madonna and Monet doesn't do any Britney Spears. But I just love that. I just love the idea of Monet getting like, against Eric, Barry and Monet. But like, what you don't know is.
Naomi Smalls
I feel like I can actually see that too. Like that would be a close fight if Monet's heart was in it, I think. Think that would be a close fight.
Bob the Drag Queen
What, What Britney song would you want.
Naomi Smalls
To lip sync to Perfect Lover off of Blackout?
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe it'd be. It's basically stronger.
Naomi Smalls
Stronger.
Bob the Drag Queen
Great. It's so stronger than yes day.
Naomi Smalls
Every time I see someone do the I'm a slave for you choreo though. I want to be that girl. She was 19 years old.
Bob the Drag Queen
Get it, get it, get it, get it.
Naomi Smalls
With a snake on live television. 19 years old.
Bob the Drag Queen
Steve Iron could never. Steve Iron found dead. Literally. Sorry, that was so uncomfortable.
Naomi Smalls
I think we're at the time where you can start making Steve Irwin jokes.
Bob the Drag Queen
So that being said, all of Lydia's deep love for Shakira did not come through. They're singing whenever, wherever, whatever, whenever. And George just ate her up. I wouldn't say it's like it's not a Mollywop like the last one, but Jorge's did, in my opinion, obviously win this lip sync.
Naomi Smalls
What would wearing a set of press on nails do to your lip sync? How would that hinder your lip sync?
Bob the Drag Queen
Who's not wearing nails? George's.
Naomi Smalls
I don't. Well, Definitely not her. I don't know if Lydia is either.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, neither of them wearing nails, huh?
Naomi Smalls
Are we entering a new era?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, Alaska did say if you're not wearing nails, it's your business. She like changed her status. She was like, I'm no longer saying you're not wearing nails. Which I kind of was back into the world of if you're not wearing nails, you're not doing drag. Like I think Alaska. But then Alaska gave herself a level where she could never be seen without nails again.
Naomi Smalls
I just don't understand why not.
Bob the Drag Queen
I too, I will say the only reason why I think you should not be wearing nails is I will say it is hard to take your clothes off when you're wearing nails. Doing a reveal with nails is hard. Then wear gloves.
Naomi Smalls
Right. Or if you have to gun to your head, don't wear thumb.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah. Just paint your thumb. So wear black nails. Then paint your thumb black. And then that way you can grab. Because you know, grabbing the. But a zipper also, like George had that big, it was like a big, Like a zipper on a tent. Yeah, like a bit like a big old Molly. Which by the way, I, I, I, by the way, don't put no invisible zippers in my shit. Don't ever in your, in your raggedy dick sucking life give me an invisible zipper. I hate it. It's the worst. I just think I get it.
Naomi Smalls
TV is forever. That meaty paw is gonna be on television forever.
Bob the Drag Queen
The big paw paw, as Blue said.
Naomi Smalls
And you know, Georgeous hand is like teeny, teeny tiny. But there's something about when you're not wearing a fucking nail on there. It's just, you just give dudette.
Bob the Drag Queen
But Georges had one reveal left in the canon and she used it. I think she did a really, I love her little, this little move she was on.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, that was cute.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's one moment that George did. Something was so weird. Go back, Jake. It was right there. Oh no, that's during. That's during her. Was that during her?
Irene the Alien
No, it was during her. And man, I'm just looking for a close up of her hands.
Bob the Drag Queen
But yeah, I, I, I do think that George is one so far. I've agreed with every lip sync so far. Yeah, tbh.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Bob the Drag Queen
George's wins. I agree. And we are now on to the finale. Let me say something real quick before, before we discuss this finale. I love a smackdown to the crown. Visually it's fun, but I don't like the idea that it is that we're insinuating that it is based on the lip sync for the crown.
Naomi Smalls
Exactly.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because if you're doing great all season and then some girl who can just lip sync really well wins, to me, that's lame.
Naomi Smalls
I agree.
Bob the Drag Queen
So. So let's not even make the final two lip sync. Let's get to the final two and then maybe do run more one more Runway category or just, like, ask them their talk. Make them talk to their baby pictures or something.
Naomi Smalls
Right.
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't make them do the last lip sync if it's not going to count.
Naomi Smalls
Also, don't crown me on a lip sync look.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's one thing about all That's. That's why I would say all star queens could never be drag race girls. You bitches are wearing leotards and catsuits when you're holding your scepters. You bitches are literally holding leotards wearing a fucking. A Capezio leotard with stones on it.
Naomi Smalls
I wonder why they ended up chopping a finale Runway. It's so pleasing as an audience member to see the whole. Especially when they do the whole cast. I think that's so great. But these queens were definitely cheated out of the finale Runway, and I would.
Bob the Drag Queen
Much rather them just do a lip sync smackdown to the top three and then give us a final three episode. I want to see what Diego and Domino Couture have planned.
Naomi Smalls
For sure.
Bob the Drag Queen
I want to see what Diego and Domino have been working on.
Naomi Smalls
I think they wanted to do it too.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what I mean? And let's be honest. The finale is always Diego and Domino. Diego versus Domino.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, for sure.
Bob the Drag Queen
Every fucking finale. I don't think they have. I don't think since season eight, they have not been in a finale.
Naomi Smalls
Was that Sasha that started wearing Diego on it?
Bob the Drag Queen
I wear Domino on.
Naomi Smalls
Oh, on Dom. Sorry. I'm thinking of Diego.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do I mean nothing to you? Am I a joke to you? After all we've been through, I'm literally looking at it.
Naomi Smalls
I'm only looking at it.
Bob the Drag Queen
But, yeah, Diego started on on nine with Sasha Velour. Yeah. And actually, the first outfit that that Domino got on our season was actually Thorgy's neon look.
Naomi Smalls
Oh, wow.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Thor's neon look, I think was his first. Was his first outfit. Shout out to Domino and Diego.
Naomi Smalls
Even Domino makes mistakes. I'm kidding, okay. It's a Real Housewives girl.
Bob the Drag Queen
But yeah. So now that we've cleared up how we feel about the smackdown to the crown and how I would have rather have seen a final look, I just think back to People like jujubee coming out in that stunning look. I think back to. I just think back to a finale. Just. Is I just like a finale more than the Lollaparuza?
Naomi Smalls
Yeah, for sure. Especially I think that there's something that should almost be higher stakes when it comes to All Stars than winning a normal season. And this does not feel like higher stakes. As a viewer.
Bob the Drag Queen
I agree.
Naomi Smalls
As an ex participator.
Bob the Drag Queen
So Ru announced that the runner up will receive $25,000. And then they lip sync to It's Raining Men by the weather Girls. I love this song.
Naomi Smalls
This was such a fun song. As a finale. This is Sharon and Fifi, right?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes. Except they did the remix with RuPaul.
Naomi Smalls
Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's raining minthe. Bam. The remix. So here's what I would have done if I was in this lip sync smackdown to the crack. I would have incorporated a bag into my look.
Naomi Smalls
Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I would have had something for every single motherfucking lip sync in this bag. I love the idea of, like, what's Bob gonna pull out of this purse? Like, I am the purse queen. I have the purse. I love the idea of pulling something out of the purse that you think could not even possibly fit in there. I love the idea of. I love the idea of, like, me and my bag showing up, and it's like, not Bob in the bag. Like, what? I gotta compete against Bob and this fucking bag. And I was thinking about what I would have done for each number and what I would have done for this time. I go camp some time ago fierce, But I would have done that instead of trying to do reveals or trying to match my outfit to one number, I would have just made each thing match the thing somehow. That's what I would have probably done. I just fucking love this song so much. This performance. I feel like it is Jorgeous performing Ginger, watching what she's doing, doing some sort of a physical commentary on what she's doing, and I just don't. I don't like that.
Naomi Smalls
No, me either. Me either. Shrugging. I'm not gonna cartwheel. Cause she's cartwheeling. I can't do a windmill because she does the windmill. It's.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's not. I don't what is what.
Naomi Smalls
It's lame. But the word I was gonna use was. Was pathetic.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, gee.
Naomi Smalls
Like, own the fucking song.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. The only time that she references George that I think makes sense is when George just whips her hair and it hits her in the face. But I will say that's where the Fact that I watched Legendary kicks in. And, you know, when she. When she grabbed her cape, if she would have grabbed Jordan's ponytail and then walked her across the stage, I feel stormy. Well, could you imagine there would have.
Naomi Smalls
Been a fight before she got to that part of the show?
Bob the Drag Queen
Swinging her feet off the ground, rip off the roof and stay. Cause she could have lifted George off the ground.
Naomi Smalls
I don't think Ginger has that much upper body strength at all.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think George's has that much body at all. But, I mean, I do think that it's obvious to me that Georgia's won this lip sync. That being said, it does make sense for Ginger to win the season. It would have been weird for Georges to win this lip sync over Ginger because Ginger did do a better job this season. That's why I don't believe in the smackdown to the crown or a lip sync should determine who's winning Drag Race. That's why. You know, I think it goes back to season 10. Like, I mean, season nine was an outlier because in my opinion, what Sasha Velour did was so iconic.
Naomi Smalls
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, I was in the building, y'. All. It was, like, so loud. I thought the building was. Was shaking. It was so loud. And, like, what she did was so big and so massive and so elicited such a great response that was like, she has to win. I don't think we've had that since then.
Naomi Smalls
I don't think they want that anymore. I think they want to be able to not. You know what? You know what I mean? Like, they want to be able to, like, have a hand in who's going to move on to the next or who's going to look like the best one. And I think Sasha went in there and really, she undid them. She changed the rules or.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, she. Yeah, Sasha made it so they couldn't crown Shay.
Naomi Smalls
Exactly.
Bob the Drag Queen
And no girls may have to do anything that gaggy since then because they switched the format. Yeah. So I just don't, like. Like, let's just make the top three and then just do a regular. A regular ass episode. I don't like this.
Naomi Smalls
Give him a challenge. Yes, a challenge.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, give us a song or a ver. Anything. Anything other than this. That being said, it would have been weird for Jorgeous to win, in my opinion, because she didn't do as well as Ginger Minj did this season.
Naomi Smalls
I think it totally could have been Jorgeous.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, based on what?
Naomi Smalls
Based on this lip sync?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, based on Jorgeous won this lip sync. I will say this. If Jorgeous would have won this lip sync and won the shot, I'd been like, well, she didn't win the lip sync. She did.
Naomi Smalls
Well, I think if you're gonna put it like that, and this whole lip sync thing doesn't come into. I think the top two would have probably been, like, Irene and Ginger, if that. You're going by who did the best this season.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, that's why. That's why it throws a lot in the air. Because, like, are we gonna. Or are we just whittling everyone down to these two people and then we base it on what you've done this so far. That being said, there's a moment I need to talk about. I have talked about this moment. When they announce that Ginger Minche wins. She's very emotional.
Naomi Smalls
Right.
Bob the Drag Queen
But she didn't win right there.
Naomi Smalls
No. I mean, I feel like they both were kind of playing it up at for, like, just in case. I mean, they also want that. They want.
Bob the Drag Queen
They do. They do. But, like. But, like, can you watch it? Just watch it. Why does it keep on? I have to go back. Go back. Just, like, they're both, like, emoting so much. And then she announces Jimin. Jimin does a double take. She starts. Her lips are quivering. She covers her face. She's crying. Jorgeous is also, like, crying and clapping for her. She's got her hands on her head. She kind of can't believe she won. But the thing is, when you're there, you don't know you won. You don't know you won until it airs on tv.
Naomi Smalls
Right.
Bob the Drag Queen
Which is kind of wild to me that they were. Because when I won, I just didn't do all that acting. I was just like.
Naomi Smalls
I don't think any of us did.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was like, woo. Yay.
Irene the Alien
They also told you ahead of time that you would win, and you saw your name on the check.
Naomi Smalls
And the lights went out.
Bob the Drag Queen
And the lights went out. So I just. I, I, I. None of us really did that. We all were just like, uh, oh, I won the show. Um, anyway, that being said, I was just intrigued by the act. Like, I will say this. The acting is good, right? Like, run this girl her Emmy at this point, because the acting is good. Well, Ginger Minj, love it or not, Ginger Minj is the winner of RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 10. She's the latest girl inducted into the Drag Race. Hurl of firm. Um.
Naomi Smalls
Oh, yes. Congratulations, Ginger. That's a winner. That is a winner.
Bob the Drag Queen
That is a winner. She is she is.
Naomi Smalls
That's a winner.
Bob the Drag Queen
She's the winner.
Naomi Smalls
She is the winner.
Bob the Drag Queen
She said it took her 10 years to do this for a couple competitions. 10 years she has been trying to get her crown. She finally snatched up her crown and she said that this feels like the beginning. She thought it'd be the end of her journey, but it's actually just the beginning. And if you all want, you can go see Jimin on the Hocus Pocus tour with Sapphire, Cristal and jujubee around Halloween. I'm assuming it's around Halloween. It'd be weird if it wasn't.
Naomi Smalls
Stranger things have happened.
Bob the Drag Queen
Stranger things have happened.
Irene the Alien
And you can go stream her cover of Defying Gravity right now on Spotify.
Bob the Drag Queen
She has a cover Defying Gravity Out. Is that expensive? Oh, I don't know. I have no clue. But what do you think of this season? Can you put it in the rank without ranking all the All Stars? Can you just put it somewhere in there?
Naomi Smalls
Let me just say one more shady thing.
Ryan Reynolds
Go ahead.
Naomi Smalls
Being crowned without an earring is diabolical. Is she not wearing earrings is diabolical.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is she not wearing earrings?
Naomi Smalls
It's fucking diabolical. That being said. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
See, this is why they should not be making these girls lip sync. First of all, lip sync without earring is crazy.
Naomi Smalls
Being crowned in Dunham is crazy. It's a whole.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, there is one girl I know who won her season crowned in a leotard, which is Aquaria, because they made her do the fucking thing, right? Give these girls the dignity of changing.
Naomi Smalls
Beat her ass.
Bob the Drag Queen
I heard. We'll talk about it in untucked. Bleep that and we'll talk about it on Talk. Because I. Because I heard. I heard tea for people who were there for that one.
Naomi Smalls
Oh, yeah. I mean, obviously, just even watching it.
Bob the Drag Queen
On tv, you're like, okay, girl, we'll chat about it. But, yeah, I mean, congrats to Ginger. Please let the girls change before you crown them.
Naomi Smalls
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
If anyone's watching, please give them the dignity of changing their clothes and just being like, do you want to put on an earring?
Naomi Smalls
I do think of RuPaul's in drag, though. It's like.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't give a fuck, bitch. I don't care if your wig's half.
Naomi Smalls
Off your head, literally peeing your tights. We're not cutting.
Bob the Drag Queen
All right, y', all, join us over on Untuck. This is another season of us.
Naomi Smalls
Oh, the season, though. I've had so much fun doing it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know this has been really, really a lovely, lovely season. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you to mom for banishing me for banishing Naomi Smalls so she can be join our queendom over here.
Irene the Alien
And just to be clear for everyone, that's a joke, not a joke in.
Bob the Drag Queen
A big Dipper, Alaska. Say run up. You know where the studio is. Drop a pin. No.
Naomi Smalls
I've had so much fun doing this. I like I woke up so happy today. Not that it's over, just I get to see you and I'm gonna be.
Bob the Drag Queen
Be up at drag at noon and be like chill about it.
Naomi Smalls
Peppy. Yeah.
Irene the Alien
Did you wake up to do your makeup?
Naomi Smalls
Like I woke up at like 7 and then I started at like 7:30 and then I got here at like noon.
Bob the Drag Queen
When you start your scam prep last night. All right, y', all, we'll see you over on Talk by.
Podcast Summary: Sibling Rivalry – "Sibling Watchery: Drag Race All Stars S10 E12 'Smackdown for the Crown'"
Episode Overview In this engaging episode of Sibling Rivalry, hosts Bob the Drag Queen and Naomi Smalls dive deep into the twelfth episode of RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars Season 10, titled "Smackdown for the Crown." Released on July 23, 2025, the episode offers a comprehensive review of the competition's latest twists, standout performances, and the dynamics among the contestants.
[01:20] Bob the Drag Queen:
"Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Sibling Watchery. My name is Bob the Drag Queen."
[01:25] Naomi Smalls:
"And it's me, Naomi Smalls."
The hosts kick off the episode by congratulating Ginger Minj, the latest inductee into the Drag Race Hall of Fame, and welcoming her to the Winner's Circle.
[01:49] Bob the Drag Queen:
"Welcome to the Winner's Circle, Ginger Minj. It was an interesting battle, a battle well fought."
A significant portion of the discussion centers on differentiating between winners of the regular seasons and those from the All Stars editions.
[02:24] Naomi Smalls:
"Do you think that winning Drag Race is different than winning All Stars?"
[02:45] Bob the Drag Queen:
"I think Drag Race is more prestigious than All Stars because All Stars is for losers. Except Jinkx Monsoon, who isn't a loser."
The hosts debate the prestige associated with winning the main competition versus the All Stars format, with Bob expressing skepticism about the All Stars title's legitimacy.
Bob and Naomi dissect the key events of the episode, including contestant eliminations and alliances.
[04:17] Bob the Drag Queen:
"Mistress has recently been banished, and Lydia is very proud of sending her home."
They discuss Mistress's departure from the competition, highlighting the dynamics between her and other contestants like Lydia and Bosco.
[06:16] Naomi Smalls:
"Bosco is one of the few people who can tame the beast that is Mistress."
The return of Carrie Copel and other contestants is analyzed, with insights into their strategies and relationships within the group.
A major focus is placed on the ranked list of contestants and predictions for upcoming lip sync battles.
[15:55] Naomi Smalls:
"When it comes to actually performing, I think Ginger is number one."
[16:06] Bob the Drag Queen:
"I wouldn't say the easiest to beat would be Carrie Copel or Irene."
The hosts share their rankings, expressing surprise over Lydia's position and praising Jorgeous as a formidable lip sync competitor.
Bob and Naomi provide detailed critiques of the lip sync performances, emphasizing technique, outfit choices, and overall impact.
[24:42] Naomi Smalls:
"Probably the disease by Lady Gaga or 'Whenever, Wherever' by Shakira."
[27:15] Naomi Smalls:
"I am obsessed with the hair that she's wearing."
The duo praises Ginger's performance and outfit, noting her emotional investment and strategic choices in song selection.
[31:13] Bob the Drag Queen:
"I wanted to go against Lydia and I got her. That was her choice."
They discuss Irene's bold strategy in challenging Lydia, analyzing the effectiveness of her performance despite unconventional outfit choices.
[43:17] Naomi Smalls:
"Yes, I agree with that win."
Bob and Naomi highlight Jorgeous's standout performance, commending her ability to present a captivating and memorable lip sync that ultimately secured her victory over Aja.
[49:26] Naomi Smalls:
"This is the best performance of the season. Just Bosco. Yes, yes, 1000."
The hosts celebrate Bosco's impressive performance, describing it as the season's highlight due to her confident execution and emotional depth.
A vibrant discussion unfolds regarding the contestants' fashion choices, with particular attention to creativity, functionality, and thematic relevance.
[21:11] Naomi Smalls:
"I mean, green is like..."
[22:33] Bob the Drag Queen:
"I just don't like this look that diabetes is wearing."
The hosts critique various outfits, debating color schemes, accessory choices, and how well the costumes complemented the performances. They express admiration for Ginger's distressed denim coat and Bosco's burlesque-inspired attire, while being less favorable towards Diabetti's unconventional ensemble.
Wrapping up the episode, Bob and Naomi reflect on the overall structure of "Smackdown for the Crown" and offer suggestions for future competitions.
[66:13] Naomi Smalls:
"Give him a challenge."
[73:31] Naomi Smalls:
"I think it totally could have been Jorgeous."
They express reservations about the lip sync-centric finale, advocating for more balanced challenges that assess a broader range of skills. The hosts also reminisce about iconic moments from past seasons, emphasizing the need for Drag Race to evolve its competition format to maintain excitement and fairness.
Bob the Drag Queen at [02:24]:
"I think Drag Race is more prestigious than All Stars because All Stars is for losers. Except Jinkx Monsoon, who isn't a loser."
Naomi Smalls at [15:55]:
"When it comes to actually performing, I think Ginger is number one."
Bob the Drag Queen at [31:13]:
"I wanted to go against Lydia and I got her. That was her choice."
Naomi Smalls at [49:26]:
"This is the best performance of the season. Just Bosco. Yes, yes, 1000."
Bob the Drag Queen at [66:13]:
"Give him a challenge."
Conclusion This episode of Sibling Rivalry offers a thorough and entertaining analysis of RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars Season 10 Episode 12. Bob the Drag Queen and Naomi Smalls provide insightful critiques on performances, fashion, and competition dynamics, making it a valuable listen for fans seeking deeper understanding and lively commentary on the show.