Sibling Watchery: Drag Race All Stars S10 E5 "Rappin' Roast"

Summary

Sibling Watchery: Drag Race All Stars S10 E5 "Rappin' Roast"

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Naomi Smalls (with call-ins)
Date: June 4, 2025
Episode Theme:
A lively, hilarious breakdown and deep-dive of RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars Season 10, Episode 5, focusing on the rap roast challenge ("Rappin' Roast") and the evolving strategies, alliances, and performances of the queens. Bob and Naomi dissect the social gameplay, the queens' runway and performance looks, the roasting raps, and make predictions for the season—delivering astute critique with their signature wit.

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Main Discussion Points & Episode Flow

1. Opening Banter: Walkthroughs & “Queen for the People”

• [01:09–03:15]
  • Bob laments never being asked to do a walkthrough for any Drag Race franchise.
    • “They will never let me do a walkthrough.” – Bob [01:40]
  • Bob expresses he’d only do it if filming locally. No international jets for a cameo!
    • “If it’s in LA, I’m not going far… I wouldn’t even go to New York.” – Bob [01:53]
• [03:12]
  • Naomi teases Bob about not being a “queen for the people.”
    • “Queen for the people, my ass.” – Naomi

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2. The Fallout: Points, Alliances & Manipulation

• [03:13–13:27]
  • Key theme: Social alliances and the strategic (and messy) distribution of points between queens.
  • Mistress is playing the game hard—trying to sweet-talk and then manipulate for points, while others (Nicole, Carrie) struggle.
    • “She is beside herself. She’s really gagging.” – Bob on Carrie’s reaction to alliance betrayals [05:01]
  • The rules: No takebacksies—when you give a point in All Stars' system, it’s final.
  • Mistress’s manipulation: Orchestrates giving and receiving points, ends up tied for the lead.
    • “I just wanna make sure that we’re all doing what we said we’re gonna do.” – Mistress, orchestrating the points [10:37]
  • The hosts both agree Mistress’ control wouldn’t work on them, and marvel at the cast following along.

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3. Mistress’s Social Mastery (and Villainy)

• [13:27–18:43]
  • Naomi and Bob debate if Mistress would thrive in a 'classic' All Stars—agreed she’s perfect for the current social format.
  • Naomi recalls her All Stars experience was less about alliances, more about talent, unlike Season 10.
    • “I feel like it was a talent competition.” – Naomi [13:53]
• [15:29]
  • Lydia’s continued desire to align with Mistress, despite her ruthlessness, is discussed.
    • “Which is crazy to me. It would have been a wrap for me.” – Naomi [15:30]
    • “Maybe Lydia is just naive…” – Bob [15:49]

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4. The Rap Roast Challenge: Order & Strategy

• [17:03–22:41]
  • Lydia, after winning the last lip sync, assigns the rap order—mostly honoring requests.
  • Bob and Naomi’s opinion: Placement only matters if your rap is weak!
    • “It matters... If you’re bad.” – Bob [17:17]
  • Tina is still ruffled, having to go first even though she said she didn’t want first or last.
  • Mistress’ reputation continues to affect the room’s mood and strategic alliances (“She has these girls shook!” – Bob [18:47])

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5. Runway, Looks, and Personal Moments

• [32:20–49:13]
  • Detailed commentary and critique of each queen’s runway and “rap roast” performance, plus personal moments.
    • Special mention: Tina Burner’s runway homage to her mother, who has dementia.
      • “Much love to you during this time. This look is beautiful.” – Bob [33:20]
  • The hosts love RuPaul’s campy sequin animal print dress, and Chapel Roan’s blow-up doll look. [32:35]
  • Carrie shares about her family not recognizing her gender identity—a poignant, empathetic moment.
    • “They want to create what they didn’t grow up with.” – Naomi on drag family [26:06]

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In-Depth: Roast Rap, Runway, and Performance Analysis

1. Runway & Rap Reviews – Queen by Queen

Timestamps reference starts of each critique.

Tina Burner

• [33:23] Runway:
  – Beautiful flower-reveal look, personal and innovative.
• [34:11] Rap:
  – “Miss, burn it if you’re nasty…” flows into sharp, clever roast bars referencing other contestants.

Nicole Paige Brooks

• [36:13] Runway:
  – Cactus-inspired, asymmetrical big-drag look; impressive at first, but the reveal let it down.
• [37:39] Rap:
  – Mix of charm and shade; standout: “Carrie’s half my age, four times the work.”

Lydia Collins

• [40:08]
  – Puppet look for plant runway; underwhelming but creative hair.
  – Rap leaned on wordplay (“Let’s gape these hoes,” “Born for drag, more like born to quit it”), but hosts unimpressed.

Mistress Isabelle Brooks (MIB)

• [42:56; 44:29] Look & Rap:
  – Stand-out look (Toadstool/Bowser chic with clever flats).
  – Show-stopping verse; biting, precise roasts ("Just like George’s these bitches have no GED.”)
  - “Her verse is great. Her look is great. This was great.” – Bob [45:14]

Jorgeous

• [46:28]
  – Venus flytrap runway praised; “no notes, this looks amazing.”
  – Rap full of golden lines: “Ru would love you too if she remembered you existed.” - “That is such a great line.” – Bob [47:53] – Choreography and energy on-point (“Every syllable had a dance move” — Michelle, quoted by Naomi [53:39])

Kerri Colby

• [49:12]
  – Gag-worthy Venus flytrap flower reveal; “this is how you do a reveal.”
  – Rap lacked clarity, didn’t hit as hard with the roast.
  • “Not a great diss track.” – Both [51:16]

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Notable Quotes & Standout Moments

• On gameplay:
  “Everyone knows you don’t trust a fat, nasty bitch. She is brilliant.” – Bob, quoting Mistress [13:09]
• On Drag Race’s legacy:
  “Drag Race is still my favorite TV show.” – Bob [08:13]
  “It is the most inclusive show out there for sure.” – Naomi [08:13]
• Social dynamics:
  “Why y’all letting this bitch tell y’all what to do?” – Bob [10:30]
• Mistress as a villain:
  “She makes herself so hateable. On purpose.” – Bob [20:12]
  “Ursula’s a big bad.” – Naomi [20:07]
• On harsh critiques:
  “Honestly, she could—Carrie is just taking shot after shot; Carrie, get up! Stand up!” – Bob [39:41]
• Drag lineage:
  “I think you’re my older sister, for sure.” – Naomi to Bob [26:28]
• On being sent home:
  “Never happened to you. Never happened once.” – Bob [28:02]
• Runway humor:
  “Tina Burner’s neck is as thick as her head.” – Bob [33:50]
• Roast appreciation:
  “That is such a great bar.” – Bob, multiple [35:18, 47:19]
• Cameo nostalgia:
  “Kim [Chi] knew she wasn’t going home… She used to piss me off." – Bob [29:07]

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Results, Judging, and Predictions

Lip Sync & Scores

• Top 2: Mistress Isabelle Brooks (“MIB”) & Jorgeous [53:56]
• Lip Sync: Hot to Go by Chapel Roan [54:10]
  • Both crowned winners; each receives half a point
    • “They have half a point each for their performance. Do you agree with that?” – Bob
    • “No, I think George’s cooked her.” – Naomi [54:32]
• Both critique fairness and how black runways disappear on the current set.
• Discussion on the often-disregarded success of returning queens from earlier seasons.
  • “It’s possible to come back and do a really good job.” – Bob [55:53]

Season Predictions

• Bob: “I don’t think the winner’s gonna come from this bracket… It’s either gonna be Irene or Ginger Man.” [56:41]
• Naomi: “Irene. She’s up there.” [56:27]
• Surprise at Ginger Minj’s early elimination in All Stars 2, confidence she’ll do well this time.

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Final Thoughts

Sibling Watchery’s breakdown brings both affectionate shade and deep Drag Race knowledge to S10E5. Bob and Naomi spotlight the increasingly strategic, Survivor-esque gameplay now dominating All Stars, give enthusiastic runway analysis, and gush over the new rap roast format’s highs and lows. Big personality moments (Mistress’s social chess, Carrie’s resilience, Tina’s artistic growth), sharp laughs, and loving salutes to the breadth of Drag Race lore fill this engaging episode.

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Quick Reference Timestamps

• Walkthroughs & Opening: [01:09–03:15]
• Alliances/Strategic Points: [03:13–13:27]
• Mistress’s Social Play: [13:27–18:43]
• Challenge Order & Strategy: [17:03–22:41]
• Runway/Performance Breakdowns: [32:20–51:26]
• Judging and Results: [53:11–56:56]
• Season Predictions: [56:11–57:19]

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For More Drag Race Drama

Check Sibling Rivalry’s Patreon for their Untucked coverage and “Twitter drama” follow-up!

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End of summary.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Welcome back to Slipping W Tre. My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Naomi Smalls]

My name is Naomi Smalls and we're

[Bob the Drag Queen]

reviewing RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars Season 10, Episode 5. And this is the rap battle episode which got me so excited when I watched.

[Naomi Smalls]

I was like, this is such a Bob heavy episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, is. I'm thrilled at the notion. I love rap.

[Naomi Smalls]

I love roasting. Roasting a diss track.

[Listener/Caller]

Hello.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, they should have had me do the walkthrough.

[Naomi Smalls]

Absolutely.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They will never let me do a walkthrough.

[Naomi Smalls]

Why not?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think they'll let you. They would totally let you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I keep telling them I'm free.

[Naomi Smalls]

I wonder why not.

[Listener/Caller]

What about an averse world season? Would you walk there for one of them?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where is it? Where is it being filmed? Is it. If it's in la, I'm not going far.

[Listener/Caller]

No, no. It's like in Brazil or wherever they film all of them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Am I already in Brazil? No, no.

[Listener/Caller]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wouldn't even go to New York to do it.

[Listener/Caller]

So you don't want to do it that badly?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no. Not that bad. No, no, no. But I would go down the street.

[Naomi Smalls]

Would you rather do a new season walkthrough or an all stars walkthrough?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'd rather do a new season walkthrough.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like if I'm in London or if I'm in, you know, Germany or if I'm in Ital. But I'm not going to, like, go all the way there. Like if they, like, I Was watching the traders, and they had a moment where. What's her name?

[Listener/Caller]

Parvati and Kate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Parvati and Kate came back to do, like, a thing. They went all the way to Scotland for that.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like. Like, y' all going to the Highlands of Scotland is not a quick trip.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I'm two or three flights. Hours.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

A whole. Is your whole day crazy? Yeah. No. Can be me. Wouldn't be me. But it wasn't me.

[Naomi Smalls]

But would you go back for a trader's walkthrough?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no, no. It's too far. It's too far. Dang, it's too far. Not interested. Unless I'm already in Scotland. But I would not fly to Scotland to do it. To do a bit.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, dang.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's too much.

[Naomi Smalls]

People would love it, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. I know. But sometimes we don't get the things that we love.

[Naomi Smalls]

Queen for the people, my ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Exactly. Exactly. Let's talk about this episode here. So during the fallout, we realized that Mistress is trying to get a point. Right. But she has not been nice to anyone.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she's trying to. She's like, now she's, like, doing a little. The little sweet thing that Mistress does, which is sending me. But then I think she realized that's not going to work, so she has to do something else.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nicole's being like, I'm old. I should get a point.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Which is weird. That's not the reason why you do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you give Nicole your point?

[Naomi Smalls]

Me as Naomi Smalls, you are on the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The All Stars tournament smackdown.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes, actually, I would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You would?

[Naomi Smalls]

I would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you want a point return or would you just do giving it free freely?

[Naomi Smalls]

I would be giving the point to the person who I probably think is not going to be racking up the points in the competition, to be honest,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

which is quite strategic.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Is that bad?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. They're your boys. Do what you want with them.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Would you give Nicole point because she's old?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not because she's old. I would probably give up. Give a point to whoever I got along with the most or who I felt bad for, to be honest. So Nicole, probably Nicole or Carrie. I get along with Carrie, and I probably also felt bad that she doesn't have any points.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So she is probably gonna. She'd probably be the most likely recipient, to my point. But I would want one, too, though. I would like to get. I would like to prioritize giving my point to someone who's going to give me a point.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right. I guess that's probably the best way to do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Probably. Yes. Probably.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Carrie's waiting for this Texas alliance to pay off. She's like, here it comes.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, she looks so, like, confused.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh.

[Naomi Smalls]

Cooked, Perplexed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gagged.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Befuddled, Destroyed. She is beside herself. She's really gagging.

[Naomi Smalls]

Are we not allowed to take our point back?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, once the. Once the point's gone, it's gone.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No take backsies. Once the point is in their hand, it is their point. You cannot take it back because you remember Nicole turned. It was like, I'm gonna get my point to Carrie. But she didn't hand it over yet.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because he was like, once you give it up, it's gone. Then Nicole's like, huh? What? Nicole's like, she never knows what's going on.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know, because.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So this is where it gets really diabolical. This is where it gets diagnosed.

[Naomi Smalls]

My mouth is watering.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So first of all, the. The new girls, not the winners, walk in.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So George's admits that she's kind of jealous of Lydia because RuPaul has a new favorite. Favorite drag queen.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul loves to see herself in some young drag queen. And she's like, you. Not only she's yourself, she just likes.

[Naomi Smalls]

You're born into drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. It's like. It's like Lawrence Chaney.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Crystal Versace, Georgeous. And now Lydia, she just sees the queen and she's like, I like you. I don't know what it is about you, Lawrence Cheney, you're my favorite.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Lauren Chaney is her highest ranking favorite right now.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I could see that. Yeah. She's been brought back for, like, things. She, like, pops into her, like, dragon

[Bob the Drag Queen]

did a walk through.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This from Scotland. I live down the street.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's crazy. I wonder what it is. This. This is really.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe they're saving me for. For hosting. That's not.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, that's not. I would love to see it. I would watch. I'd tune in. I know you would, too. And you would. And you would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you would as well. But anyway, so what about.

[Listener/Caller]

What about versus the world?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would host most of the world.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I actually pitched myself, like, online. Not serious. But I was like. I would. I was like, listen, let me do. I'll do Down Under.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would take Down Under.

[Naomi Smalls]

I. Yeah, I would have loved to seen. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In the hopes of working my way up to the ranks and eventually making my way to. To Drag Race for sure. I'm like, I'm putting in my. I'm putting in my office hours.

[Naomi Smalls]

Like, I'm doing this in hopes to. Not, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not. Not like my. My final destination is Down Under.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that once RuPaul's done, one or two things gonna happen. Either show's gonna be over, or they're going to give it to Trixie. That's my theory.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, I. It would. You don't think she would give it to Michelle?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Naomi Smalls]

They did get to give. They gave Down Under Michelle. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I think I predicted that she's gonna. I predicted that she's gonna give up Down. Down under, and then she's gonna give up uk and then once she does that, maybe a year or two later, she's gonna give up us.

[Naomi Smalls]

You don't think there's, like, a magic number for Rue, like, for Drag Race for us?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Drag Race, like, when it's gonna be done?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, maybe they're just gonna make it a 20.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know 20 would be, like, a

[Bob the Drag Queen]

great four more seasons.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's just four more seasons.

[Naomi Smalls]

Isn't it be crazy to, like, talking to a girl? That's season 20.

[Listener/Caller]

So the most recent one we just said was season 17.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, we said. We said the magic number to give up would be season 20.

[Listener/Caller]

Like, so that's three seasons from now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Three seasons. Yeah. There's three. Three. That's only three years away. Yeah, it would. Seeing Drag Race go away would be sad. It is still my favorite TV show.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh. I mean, it's the. It is the most inclusive show out there for sure. And it's. It. It just, like, involves everything that I'm interested in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Agreed. Drag Race is still my favorite TV show.

[Naomi Smalls]

Absolutely. I still get so excited to watch it. I'm so excited for the girls who have been wanting to go on it for so long that finally get on it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's just amazing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is a great show, and I would rather them pass the baton to anyone versus letting the show just stop happening.

[Naomi Smalls]

Anyone. If Monet gets it, are you mad?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'd be happy for Monet.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Monat probably better at it than me, to be honest. Aw, that's so nice, because I'm really about myself. Like, I really like to be the center of attention. Okay. So I love your look.

[Naomi Smalls]

Love your look. But on my season, what I would

[Bob the Drag Queen]

have done, this is what I would have did. Let me do what I would have did. Oh, if you would have did this. Oh, my God. No. I can turn that off for. For I, I've hosted like a, a few things here and I, I, I had my show drag my dad on MTV Digital for a while. Anyway, so the point back to this. So Nicole turns is she, she's just like, I'm going to get my point because Mistress is trying to get the points going. Cuz everyone talking about what they're going to do and, and then Mistress, like, enough of that, let's get the points out here.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then Nicole goes, all right, great. And then she turns to Carrie, goes, I'm going to get my points to you. Mistress goes, I thought we were a family. I thought we were a family.

[Naomi Smalls]

What happened to the family bond, the manipulation?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then that's when Nicole says, okay, so Nicole gives a point to Mistress. And then Nicole goes, now give me your point. She goes, no, no, no. Carrie should go next. Why do they keep letting this bitch tell them what to do and when to do it?

[Naomi Smalls]

Crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is beyond me. I don't know why they are let literally tell them what to do.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think it's the confidence. I think it's the way that Mistress says something. She says it with such like, yeah, directness. Confidence that you're like, okay, yeah, sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For me it would be, for these personalities, it would very much be a, A unstoppable force meets an unmovable object. Like very bad. Like we would just clash. And something, something's gonna have to give.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I'm not letting you tell me when to get my points away. No, I'll be damned.

[Naomi Smalls]

But would you let her do that to the other people if. As long as it doesn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would also be like, why y' all letting this bitch tell y' all what to do?

[Naomi Smalls]

You totally would. You totally would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, are y' all paying attention to what's going on right now?

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's very my style. So then, so then Nicole goes, mistress giving your point. And Mistress goes, no, no, no. It's Carrie's turn. I just wanna make sure that we're all doing what we said we're gonna do. So then Carrie goes, okay, Carrie gives her point to George's. And then Mistress says, now it's my turn. And then Mistress says, and like you said, we're keeping it in the family. And, and I'm not actually related to you. And she turns and she hands her point to George's. And then she goes, and now she doesn't even like George. She goes, and now you'll give me yours. And then George's hands her her Point. So now George's has two, Mistress has two, Tina Burner has two, Lydia has three, and Carrie and Nicole have zero. And they are gagged.

[Naomi Smalls]

They are gagged. They're, like, speechless gagged.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think she would have been able to do that to me.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, I don't think she would have been able to do that to me either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And they paired her with the. With her. And honestly, I do think that if Tina was in the bottom, it wouldn't have happened. I think if Tina was in the bottom, that would have never happened. I honestly think that.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, no, I don't think Sina would let that happen either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm surprised Tina let her let it. I'm surprised Tina watched and let it happen.

[Naomi Smalls]

Well, I think Tina was probably just, like, ecstatic because she wasn't having to do all that. She just won. She has all her points. She's like, I could actually finally relax, but relax.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She did not very long because now Tina is annoyed that she is tied with Jorgeous and Mistress and she just won a challenge and they. I mean, they won something. They worked. I will say this Mistress worked hard for that.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, she did.

[Naomi Smalls]

That takes a lot of, like, planning of, like, what could go wrong in the social situation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Naomi Smalls]

Like, there was a bunch of different options there and she, like, made it work for.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Georgia should thank her.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But then going into the next bracket, that is not going to be easy. Like, they're going to be like, oh, y' all want to know what time. What time Mistress is on, right? She's. She's with the shits.

[Naomi Smalls]

Well, she has to win.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. At this point, after you pull us, I would have waited a little longer before I pulled a something like that. I wouldn't have done it so far up front.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's only three episodes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. There's only one episode for them. Yeah, that's true. I don't know, Maybe the second. Maybe the second episode or maybe use your talent to get to the second bracket and then pull the stunts, right?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, that's a rich come up for me because I literally blew my entire wad in four episodes on the Traitors. But hindsight is 20 20, right? Hindsight is 20 20. And I love that Mitch ends it with everyone knows you don't trust a fat, nasty bitch. That is such a great. Everyone knows you don't trust a fat, nasty bitch. I am obs. She is brilliant.

[Naomi Smalls]

She's so great for this. This new way that they reinvented it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

She's so great for this dynamic because

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think that she would have had the same success in a regular All Star season. No, it would have been. It would have been a very different experience. And did you feel like when you were on All Stars, did you feel like there was, like, a big social game? Did you feel or did you feel like it was like, a talent competition again?

[Naomi Smalls]

I feel like it was a talent competition. I didn't really think the social thing. I think the only people who really liked each other like, that much more like, revocal about it was Manila and Latrice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

I was obviously, like, becoming really, really close with Monet, but I didn't really feel like we had, like, an alliance or anything like that. It was just, like, natural. And it's just like, you do well in the competition or you don't, and it reflects in the judging.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How would you do in this social game setting?

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[Naomi Smalls]

I don't really think I'm a very, like, social, like, I feel like I kind of do get along. You get along with most with everyone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, everyone loves you. You're very likable until you dislike more people than people. Just like you like, people are like, damn. I'd be like, damn, you really don't like nobody.

[Naomi Smalls]

I just like what people do.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, the next day, they walk into the workroom, and Lydia is still trying to. Lydia is still trying to be Mistress's drag daughter.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which is crazy to me.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, it would have been a rap for me. Like, when she started coming for, like, my threads missing and untucked. It would have been a rap for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not just that. When you saw her backstab Nicole, Paige Brooks and Kerri Colby.

[Naomi Smalls]

Do you think that she wants Mistress attention? Or she just wants, like, she knows that Mistress is going to go to the top, and she could probably help her also go to the top.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know what maybe Lydia is just like naive and like, why would mistress be mean to me? Because Lydia does seem the type. Like, why would you be mean to Lydia? But why would you do. Why would you be mean to Carrie? Like, I can get why you'd be mean to Nicole Paige Brooks because she's sassy. Why would you pull a dirty one over on your Texas sister? Not Nicole on fucking Kerri Colby.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, that was confusing. That was confusing. I'd be pissed if I was Carrie. Like, I feel like Carrie is like almost like a wounded deer in this

[Bob the Drag Queen]

moment, but she's taking it too good cuz she's. She's butting up with George's later. I said, baby, you think me and George be K and cutting up? We need to talk about what just happened.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, let's like these like two weeks that we're going to film this, let's be cutthroat. If you're going to play cutthroat and

[Bob the Drag Queen]

then afterwards we can be cool.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what me, you and Derek did. We were cutthroat then we were cool afterwards.

[Naomi Smalls]

I'm so happy. I'm cool with Derek now. It took years. It took.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh yeah. Years. Derek, like pretty much we fix it on the show.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, you guys are. I think you guys both understood the assignment. Yeah, I took it personally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were younger than both of us. You still are younger than both of us and you always will be.

[Naomi Smalls]

Doesn't really matter. It doesn't really matter in this context.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So then Lydia goes around the room and she wants to. Because Lydia. Because Lydia won the challenge in the lip sync last week. She gets to decide what order people are going to go in the rap thing.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So she's going around asking everyone, what

[Naomi Smalls]

order would you want? Do you think it really matters?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think it matters unless you are not good. It matters. If you're bad. It matters.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Otherwise, no matter where you go, it's going to be impactful.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what I mean? I wouldn't, I wouldn't really care where I went. If I had to choose, I would want to start it off, but if I got any other spot, I literally wouldn't care.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think you'd want to start it off so you don't have to do all those like, ad libbing like we have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you like supporting the other girls perform, you know, did they tell them to do that?

[Naomi Smalls]

It kind of just like goes with the challenge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, you have to do it afterwards though. You still have to be like, oh, you know? Oh, snap.

[Naomi Smalls]

At least you're not, like, doing all the stupid ad libbing things. And then you have to perform. At least you're like, I'm performing. And now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, hell.

[Naomi Smalls]

RuPaul.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so Leah's asking everyone, and then while she. While she. She pretty much honors what everyone wants.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Except Tina's still kind of mad, which is weird because Tina said, I don't even want to go first or last. And she got one of the ones she wanted.

[Naomi Smalls]

What she ended up doing last?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She. She ended up going first.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Carrie Cob going last.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone got what they wanted.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

As. So they walk while they're writing. At one point, Tina Burner and Nicole B. Brooks, like, close their books, and Mistress walks by. I'm like, mistress has these girls on their toes.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. They're like, we're not falling for this mess anymore. And I honestly, I think they're right for doing that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah. But she has these girls. Like, they're. They're like. Like, she has these. They are literally shook.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shooketh.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know. But they are smart for doing that. Because, Mistress, you have to watch that bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know.

[Naomi Smalls]

You have to watch that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And it's fun to watch her from here.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right. And it's easy to see her. I'm kidding.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not too much. So again, I said, like, Jorgeous is riding with Carrie. You couldn't pay me. It's Carrie. We're fighting. We're fighting now.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know. I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think Carrie's just. She's just too sweet. She's honestly just like, a sweet person.

[Naomi Smalls]

Or I do think that, like, Mistress is wearing the badge of evil more than Jorgeous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Georgeous is.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But Jorgeous is complicit.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, for sure. Jorgeous was fully aware of all of that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Naomi Smalls]

They had a plan before they went into the workroom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But it was Mistress. It seemed like it was Mistress's plan.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I don't think Jorgeous would have ever done that without Mistress. But Mistress would have done that with anyone.

[Naomi Smalls]

And Mistress is way easier. If you see. I don't know. What would you call. Okay, so if you see Ursula, which is Mistress.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

And you see Blossom and Jetsam, which is gorgeous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Who are you going to think is the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Ursula's a big bad.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, exactly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's an easy target because she makes herself so hateful. So hateable.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On purpose.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So it's like, oh, Georgia just got strung along.

[Naomi Smalls]

She's just ditzy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Like. Like, Mistress is scar and George's is the hyenas.

[Naomi Smalls]

Exactly, exactly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Very. That. Very, very. That. I'm just gagged that she's over there, like, cutting up with. I be like, girl, I'm mad at you. And then car. So Carrie, she says. Carrie says that she's Lyrical miracle, which. That's already a rap lingo. Do you know that?

[Naomi Smalls]

Mir. Lyrical miracle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lyrical miracle is like a. Is like a rap lingo for those rappers who do, like, a lot of really intense wordplay. Like Eminem would be considered lyrical.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay. I could see that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, the. I'm trying to think of a. Of a. Of a lyric of. Of Eminem's that is particularly like, my heart problem's complicated. While you. I know you got a job. Machete, but your heart. There's like a. I. I can't think of one right now, but there's like a. Like a. A lyric about m. Where it's like, something about the heart. I know you got your husband.

[Listener/Caller]

Now you get to watch her leave out the window. Guess that's why they call a window pane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know you got a job, Ms. Katie, but your husband's heart problem's complicated. Or when he goes Forex. Versace.

[Listener/Caller]

Whoop.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Somebody shot me. I was just checking the mail. Get it? Checking the mail. This is more like, like, wordplay and stuff, but it's like when you. It's like when your words are, like, super Peter Pepper, Pector Picker. It's like, all this stuff is super lyrical. It's called lyrical miracle. I've not done great examples in this moment because I hadn't prepared for it, but, like, that's what a lyrical miracle rapper is. I don't know if she's lyrical miracle.

[Naomi Smalls]

Carrie Colby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think she knows what lyrical miracle is.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, probably not. I think she was just rhyming to rhyme. Like mother goosing it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Because I was like, girl claiming to be Lyrical miracle is wild. And Lydia is now trying to play the field with both Tina Burner and Kari Kobe. Because now she's like, oh, shit. People are making alliances. And she's like. So she's already got this thing that her and Tina have been kind of, like, flirting and. And, like, kind of low key presenting whole. Exactly. And low key having each other's backs. And now I think she's like, well, Carrie needs someone. So she's like, in the event that I need a point, I need to buddy up to these two.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So this is the order that. Smart. Yeah, smart. So this is the order that Tina chooses that. Lydia chooses Tina. Nicole Paige Brooks, Lydia, Mistress Jorgeous, and then Kerri Colby. And everyone seems pretty happy except Tina Burner seems a little bit like, why'd you do that?

[Naomi Smalls]

Because. Do you think Tina is mad that someone else got what they wanted? Like, she. She's so, like, in the competition zone that she's just mad that I think

[Bob the Drag Queen]

she's mad that Mistress got what she wanted.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, probably.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think she just wants to see Mistress get her just dues. And honestly, I don't think she's gonna get it. I think that Mistress, in my opinion, Mistress and Tina are gonna go to the next bracket, probably with Georgia's. And then I think Mistress is gonna go to the finals and Tina will not.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, interesting. I see it differently.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you think is gonna happen?

[Naomi Smalls]

I think. I feel like Lydia is gonna make it. I think Lydia might take Tina's spot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't think he's gonna make it?

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't think so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That would be. That would be a tragedy because she's doing a really good job.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I mean.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that'd be a tragedy.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, just based on this episode,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

what about the last episode?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, she did really well in the last episode, but she did really well in this episode, but they didn't give her flowers. Dressed as a flower.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dressed as a fucking. Dressed as a fucking flower. So during the makeup, Nicole is trying to make her eye makeup bigger. She's trying to do bigger drag. She said she got her biggest wig, which is. It is a big wig. But then when I compare it to,

[Naomi Smalls]

like, mistresses, big, big wig loafs, like

[Bob the Drag Queen]

these, like, this giant hair. And I was like. I was like, I can't wait to see what big drag is for Nicole. For Nicole Paige Brooks. And then Mistress is really, really like. Like, again, she's, like, nagging the girls, like, irritating them, you know? You know what really pisses me off?

[Naomi Smalls]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When someone does some that they know is shady and up, and they go, you're not mad, are you?

[Naomi Smalls]

H. I hate that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not really mad, are you? Are you girls. Are you girls really mad?

[Naomi Smalls]

That's gaslighting, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, 1, 100. You're not mad.

[Naomi Smalls]

What do you know about gaslighting? Do you have any friends? I love to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe one or two. Maybe one or two. But that would piss me the off.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not, like, mad about that, are you?

[Naomi Smalls]

Right. Like, that didn't really hurt your feelings, did it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's. Oh, I'm, like, getting angry just thinking about her doing that don't tell me how to feel. And then chaperone comes in looking stunning, looking gorge, tries on some wigs. We find out that Lydia opened for Chapel Roan. Crazy in Pittsburgh.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's crazy. I didn't realize that she was having, like, the whole, like, Drag Queen Open tour.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's awesome.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's doing it for a hot minute. She has local queens come out and. And perform before each show.

[Naomi Smalls]

Because Susie did that, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did Suzanne do that?

[Naomi Smalls]

Susie, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Suzanne Tooth.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. And they were on the same season, so I was surprised that that, like, didn't come up. Interesting.

[Listener/Caller]

You're right.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, interesting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I guess it's just one gig, though, right?

[Naomi Smalls]

I'm probably not in the same city.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I actually liked her. Tina Mer's wig.

[Naomi Smalls]

The big red.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Boom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Tina has good hair.

[Naomi Smalls]

She left with.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Must have come back.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Who does Tina's hair? Does she.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have no clue. I don't think Tina does her own hair, though. No, but I have.

[Naomi Smalls]

I could see Marco, actually. They look maybe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, they look like Marco, but Marco's in Italy now. He doesn't. He's like. He's hard to. He's hard to pin down because he's out of state.

[Naomi Smalls]

He's so good, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's amazing. Amazing. We found out that Carrie's family does not recognize her gender identity at all. All she has, like. No, not. No. But she has very, very little connection with her family. With her. Her. Her birth family, her blood family.

[Naomi Smalls]

I feel like when she was talking about that, it kind of, like, made sense. I think someone who is motherly, a trait of that is like. Or like creating their own family a trait of that is like, they want to create what they didn't grow up with.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is true. And you ever. You're. You're pretty close to your family.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, my family's great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is why you don't have any drag kids or siblings or. You don't have a drag mom either, do you? Not Roxy kind of your drag mother.

[Naomi Smalls]

Not an official drag mother, but I would say, like, Raven.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. I'll be your drag.

[Naomi Smalls]

Raven. Roxy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob. I think there's very little. Bob the Drag.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think you're my older sister. For sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, for sure. 100%.

[Naomi Smalls]

100%.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then Carrie and Nicole have bonded over having no points and call themselves the Double Zero Girls, which is kind of a sad name for a group.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know. I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel bad for kid. I don't really feel bad for Nicole,

[Naomi Smalls]

though, because she dishes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It yeah. And Carrie's just taking it.

[Naomi Smalls]

She's just taking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just getting pummeled. And you're like.

[Naomi Smalls]

And she's also just gorgeous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it's because she's just getting pummeled. Like, if Nicole.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't care about gorgeous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, if Nicole was not fighting back, it would be sad.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But she is fighting back.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Carrie just, like, I feel like, would I be more irritated to be, like, on All Stars 7? Like, as someone who knows they're not going to win and just doing the whole season, the whole. You have to be there the whole time, and you just know you're not winning versus just going home.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which would you rather do? Would you rather just go home?

[Naomi Smalls]

I think I'd rather display everything I intended to display, at least.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Even if you know you're not winning,

[Naomi Smalls]

I would just hate going up there for critiques.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It would suck.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right? Like, even, like, because you, like, everyone could be telling you in the workroom, you did amazing. And then if, like, the critiques are going that way. Yeah. It's just, like, everything that you heard before dissipates.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also, with this. It's only three episodes.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Versus All Star seven. You had to just ride the whole thing out and you knew you're not gonna win.

[Naomi Smalls]

I still want to stay, I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

I just don't want to be sent at home, period.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That sounds. Just couldn't imagine. Never happened to you. Never happened once.

[Naomi Smalls]

It never happened to us.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It never happened. I've done it less times than you. But going twice and never being sent home.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's that lipstick message. It's the packing alone. It's the Eureka.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Never got sent home. No. Well, she got with her knee.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, yeah. That's different.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is different.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's being sent home for, like, first medical discharge. Yeah.

[Listener/Caller]

Jujubee. Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jujubee has never been sent home.

[Naomi Smalls]

Never been sent home. Love that. But remember how dark.

[Listener/Caller]

Someone had a perfume that was, like, never sent home. Oh, it was a perfume challenge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Roxy Andrews.

[Naomi Smalls]

Roxy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Roxy. Also never been sent home. She only did twice, though. No, three times.

[Naomi Smalls]

Three times, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, so a lot of girls.

[Listener/Caller]

She did it twice. And then the third time, I mean, she also was never was Made it to the top for the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. She's never been home.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. She's always made it to the top.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, we actually did. Telling us at home.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right. That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was so annoyed because when they. We all had to film a going home. Me, Chichi, Naomi, and Kim. And Kim just Didn't take her seriously at all.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Kim knew she wasn't going home.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we all did a real sincere. We were all like, okay, it's been great. Thank you so much. Kim was like. Kim was like, whatever. Do you remember? I can't remember what shit was there. They're like. She's like. She's something like Kim Chi. You will always be chic. Now sashay away.

[Listener/Caller]

Wa.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was so. I was like, kim, Kim. Kim used to piss me off. So Kim is actually kind of like mib, but in a much more slick way.

[Naomi Smalls]

Much more slick. Much more dainty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like the way that Kim. Okay, quick story. We'll get back to this. We were. We all had to go up to the. To the stage in our final looks.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Kim had this big gown on. They were like, you have to walk down the aisle. And then we will just cut, and you'll be on the stage because there was only one set of stairs, Right. And obviously, we won't have you two climb up. So there's one set of stairs. You always just walk across. Go up the stairs, and you'll be up there. And then came out on a big. It was a pretty big. It was not that fucking big. Yeah, it was big. It wasn't that fucking big. So then Kim was like, I can't walk down the aisle, and my dress is just too big. And then they were like, what? She goes, it's just too big. I literally couldn't possibly walk down the aisle in this dress. And then she was like, I should enter behind the wall that Violet enters behind because Violet was stepping down, and she had this big grand. RuPaul and Violet both enter through this wall because they have their big moments. And Kim was like, I'll just enter from the. From behind the led.

[Naomi Smalls]

And they were down, and they were like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And they were like, you know what, Kim? That makes a lot of sense. We'll just have Bob and Naomi's black asses walk down the aisle, and then we will reveal you from behind an LED wall. And I said, no, you were high. I was like, absolutely. I said, if Kim's coming behind the wall, we're all coming from behind the wall. I'm. Me and Naomi. I was like, me and Naomi are not walking down the fucking aisle while Kim gets revealed behind a fucking Ellie. Do you remember this?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I do. I absolutely remember it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There have been so many times I

[Naomi Smalls]

was so grateful for you in that moment, too, because it was not on my radar. And then it Made sense.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cuz anyone knows I listen, if I have one thing, it is nerves. And I was like, you don't care about. I said, no, I don't care about not winning. I. I'm gonna win. And this ain't coming behind no led wall. God damn it.

[Naomi Smalls]

Anyway, I do feel like that was Kim being slick. A little bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, there's no little bit. Little bit is. She still has you in her clutches. Be released, my sister. Be released.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go into these fucking. These looks and these verses from the episode. All right, so this is their rap battle song. Let's. Let's start off with RuPaul. I love this dress RuPaul's wearing. I love it so much.

[Naomi Smalls]

I totally see that. I could totally see Bob the Drag Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you like it?

[Naomi Smalls]

No, I do like it. I like. I like the sequin with the animal print. Gorgeous. I love a clear sequin right now. I don't know what it is about clear sequins, but I'm all about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Chapel Roll is very camp. This is such a camp look.

[Naomi Smalls]

It is very camp.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like it. It's very, very camp. Let's go on to these queens.

[Naomi Smalls]

So she's a blow up doll. Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's a. She's a sex doll. Yeah, like a blow up sex doll. So let's go into these queens. So Tina Burner is paying homage to her mother, who we found in the episode, has been recently diagnosed with dementia. I want to say Tina Burner's mother is an icon of the New York City scene. She is a wild. Her mother was what? She used to party with us, hang out at the clubs. Like, everyone knew Burner, Mama Burner. I love that she was. She was very, very fun. So I'm just going to have some love to you, Tina, and your mother and your family. Just much love to you during this time. This look is beautiful.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's gorgeous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I Love this look.

[Naomi Smalls]

I love the reveal. So it's not what I saw coming. I mean, I definitely saw it was gonna be flower, obviously, but, like, the way that it came down, I've never seen that before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She looks amazing. I really think she's kind of a flawless queen. Am I crazy for saying that?

[Naomi Smalls]

I think she is. She hits all the marks. There is. I think some things that maybe are not as aesthetically pleasing. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not the paint. That's the canvas.

[Naomi Smalls]

Exactly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like. Like, Tina Burner's neck is as thick as her head.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, she's just a dude.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's kind of drawn like a. Like a. Like a Bob Burgers character that.

[Naomi Smalls]

When you said upside down pizza.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Upside down pizza.

[Naomi Smalls]

I get it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what she needs. Wear hip pads. She used to never wear hip pads.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's a never hip, so now she's padded?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, you can see the hips.

[Naomi Smalls]

She is a drag queen.

[Listener/Caller]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is very, very draggy. Very, very queenie. I. I love this look. She said, miss, burn it if you're nasty. No need to introduce I've heard these girls get dirty. So let me so let. So let me be a douche. That is so great. Carrie couldn't help but wonder, will pretty be enough online? Ru ordered Sasha, but you showed up. That is such a great bar. That's great. Lydia serving Harry Potter out of drag. Spells were needed for the entrance. A messy burlap bag. Two bricks in this house. Ooh, sorry. I meant Brooks. A Trixie body double. The other one no one books. I think it's double. A Trixie body double. I think she's saying, like body double. No, she said a Trixie body double, but I think the bit is that she's double Trixie's body. And she paints big like Trixie, I think, which if that's a double, that's a great. A Trixie body double. The other knowing books. Nicole Paige Brooks, a scared straight programmer, keep her kids off drag. She's the face of that. You're a mean girl. Mistress, a bitch, a jerk. All that aside, I'm still your fan. Danny DeVito. I love your work. These are bars.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, they are. They are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

These are fucking bars. Halfway through an EGOT. Ms. Charles, did your thing need an Oscar Grammy. You better learn to act to see

[Naomi Smalls]

the rade is pretty fierce and bold.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

R loves it, though.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, he does.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a rap. That's a rap. Like Ros's face. I'm here to. I'm here to smoke you out. All glow up zero and that's no doubt. This is great.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. With great writing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The fact that she's not at the top is really irritating me.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cuz I think that they were kind of reaching for this, like, I couldn't understand. Yeah, it was quick, but that's not. Who cares?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Imagine someone. Imagine someone went for Busta Rhymes. Flows like. Yeah. But we couldn't understand. You're talking so fast.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? Be impressed that she's rut fast that part. So it's going to Nicole Paige Brooks. So let's talk about this look first. So I think that I actually really like this look. I like it better with the cactus part on.

[Naomi Smalls]

Keep the cactus on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And that thing over the eye is kind of couture and cut to me.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I like that too. Yeah, the asymmetry. Love that. The hip pad. Love that. It's very drag. The reveal is first of all, the

[Bob the Drag Queen]

struggle to get to it was insane.

[Naomi Smalls]

You know what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Fighting for her life.

[Naomi Smalls]

But when it dropped and she stepped out, it was, oh, so effortless.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she did step out. She was like.

[Naomi Smalls]

I love how she, like, clocks the cameras around the room.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Like, she's not playing to the judges. She's not playing front. She's, like, looking for the other cameras.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

But I think she's supposed to be a cactus that stripped its skin. And then she's the cactus soul or something like the. The, the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The. The. What do you call the meat? Or the. Yeah, the meat of the cactus.

[Naomi Smalls]

And then she has these, like, lizards on her that are sucking the juices of the snakes. The meat and the snake. Yeah, but there's, like, little lizards in her. I think on her face and on her bodysuit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I definitely prefer. I think she. The issue is that the look doesn't get better, it gets worse.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. I think she honestly could have kept on the first look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree. I agree. Maybe save this for a lip sync.

[Naomi Smalls]

Just exactly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In case you have to lip sync exactly. All right, let's do Nicola Page brooks's verse.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's NP. It's NPBF. A G. Nicole, honey. Oh, you know me. Season 2 OG can't say to me. Charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent. Ass shots and mug shots just for some balance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, that's because, you know, she has her mug shots members online.

[Naomi Smalls]

Wait, she has her mugshot?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, I did not know that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, here it is.

[Naomi Smalls]

She's okay for. What do we know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Trafficking. What do you call it solicitation.

[Naomi Smalls]

Ass shots and mug shots. Just I think ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe she has her ass done.

[Listener/Caller]

It was drug charges. The season two contestant was pulled over in Atlanta. Police found 51 bags of marijuana, cocaine, Xanax, oxycodone, amphetamines and hydrocodone.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, she's, like, dealing.

[Listener/Caller]

Other prescription bottles and departments were found to have drugs st inside them in the car.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She went on a cruise. Going to Joshua Tree this weekend.

[Naomi Smalls]

Honey. Mea. Okay. All right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you were there when they went to Mesopotamia.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think I've been there. Yeah. Each time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it. Was she acting as crazy as she was like? No, I mean, it sounds like she was like, crazy.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't think. I mean, I was also probably crazy in my own special way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You like female with a bit.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay, should we do a joke from the top?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you can keep going.

[Shopify Announcer]

Keep going.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay. Asshots. Okay. Tina burner. Is that Ms. Turner without the waistline and possibly a hernia? Ms. Butthole. The question is, who did you lick to get back in so quick? Two Brooks, one season with no neck. And then biscuits. Oh, God. I can't even carries half my age. Four times the work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is a bar. That's a bar. Carries half my age. Four times the work is a bar.

[Naomi Smalls]

A whole new face, but still. Still dumb as dirt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, she could carry. Carrie is just taking shot. Carrie, get up. Stand up.

[Naomi Smalls]

Gorgeous Georgeous. How'd you get here? You've been in Ross's colon this whole damn year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right. I mean, it wasn't great. There was a few bars in there. The Carrie part, she. She cooked with. Let's. Let's go to Lydia.

[Naomi Smalls]

I like the Lydia line too. The who would you lick back in? So good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, let's go to Lydia Butthole Collins. So she. I. Her puppet doesn't look like a puppet.

[Naomi Smalls]

It looks like it got smashed in shipping.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And it's not. I wish it was clamping.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. I'm surprised. I'm surprised if it is a puppet because aren't puppets supposed to move?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, not all puppets. Mouths open. But they're. But they're. But yes, typically speaking of puppet will do this and she made. She's made puppets that do that before.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So. And she likes puppets, like, part of her drag. So. But outside of this, like one. It doesn't really look like a plant to me. Yeah, it looks like a bloody. Is it red? Yes, it looks like a bloody monster mouth.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I think that's kind of what it is. I feel like it's like the thing from the little shop, but, like, dead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's smushed and smushed. Yeah. I don't like the way it looks. The dress is cute.

[Naomi Smalls]

Love that hair. I never seen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, the hair is great.

[Naomi Smalls]

Never seen hair like that. Love it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The hair is great. The dress. I like the dress too. I just don't get it. It seems like the. The. The. The challenge or the. The Runway category was like an afterthought.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, do I have a. A plant thing? Something that kind of vaguely looks planty around here?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, Lydia says the butthole is here. Let's gape these hoes. George's. Oh, you think you were sickening. Itty bitty, itty bitty titty girl. Twinkie butthole winking. Born for drag. More like born to quit it. Third time's a charm. Now it's time for you to hit it. Mib. Spreading it so thick. Stunning. Be strutting like you on the stage. Let's do a. Let's see you do a flip. Like Ms. LePage. Nicole Page Brooks from Atlanta, Georgia, looks deflated, unsophisticated. Season two sees. Season two was years ago. Bitch, you're dated. Face, face, face. Body is Carrie Colby. You always be the Tamar to Sasha's Tony. That's the first bar that she's had, in my opinion. Shattering off mirror is Tina. Shattering off mirror is Tina Burner. People running high when she turns the Kerner. Breaking all these necks in there. In the other direction. With you, with you. And be stunning. Where's the connection? I don't see it for this verse.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I don't like that they were gagging for it, were they?

[Naomi Smalls]

I didn't feel. Get the vibe that they gagged for it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They didn't un. Gag.

[Naomi Smalls]

They did not. Yeah. I'm thinking that this is kind of like one of those all star seasons where it's like, be nice. Yeah. More trinkle and with, like, compliments than your season. Hell the no, Hell the now. And that's why I'm biased, because I want everyone to go through that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, yeah, let's go to mib.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say this. Her look in the challenge was stunning. I loved it.

[Naomi Smalls]

Look, mib.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's wearing tennis shoes. I know. This way she's walking. You can tell by how mistress walks if she's wearing heels or not.

[Naomi Smalls]

Really. You can always tell there's motion because she.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She. When she's wearing heels, she walks like Mariah Carey.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But when she's not, she's walking. She was just like, I think she can't walk like that. Honestly.

[Naomi Smalls]

Smart.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, it is smart.

[Naomi Smalls]

Smart. If you're gonna wear flats, cover them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you think of this look?

[Naomi Smalls]

I think this is very different for her. So she worked that out because they literally just said they hated seeing her in gowns all the time. But this reminds me of the Glamour Toad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is better than the Glamour Toad.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes, but same, like, collection, but it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, with the bulbs on it and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. I do see the bulbs and, like, the. That replacing this. But this is an elevated version. This is the. The Pokemon evolved version of the Glamour Toad outfit. For sure. I like this. It is. It is very different from Mistress. I did not see this. Something Eureka would wear.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can see Eureka wearing this. I can see Patrick Howell making something like this. I think it looks really good. What did you call her? Bowser.

[Naomi Smalls]

Bowser. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's Bowser down.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's bowser down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. 100 bowser. I definitely see that. For sure. You want to do her verse?

[Naomi Smalls]

Sure. Oh, wait. But hers is the best one. I feel like. Yeah, you should do it. Hers is the best one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm the heavyweight champ Call me Mistress Watch me eat these bitches up so delicious, Lydia Collins. What's the real tea? How you beg to be my son but try to diss me A lot of butch queens want to A lot of butch queens want to be my mini me but they're just imitating can't match my pedigree Just like George's these bitches have no GED that is so uncalled for. Just like George these bitches have no G.E.D. let's start. They start panicking when they see MIB. Oh, hey, yo, Carrie. You like to call yourself Tratnose But I'm the iron one. But look what happened to Thanos and she does this little move. It was so good.

[Naomi Smalls]

She is clearly a Barb.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, for sure. Now moving on to Nicole Paige Brooks. I can't read the bitch. Look how Nicole Paige looks. That's such a great. I'm reading again. Now moving on to Nicole Page Brooks. I can't read the bitch. Look how Nicole Page looks Turning and burning it. Don't let this brick deceive you, Tina Burner on fire like Gonorrhea when she walked in the room it was nice to see you Now, Riva Dirci, bitch. Hasta la vista. This was Great. Her verse is great. Her look is great. Great. Her look in the verse was great. Her performance was great. This was great.

[Naomi Smalls]

This is her night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This was. She is the queen to beat.

[Naomi Smalls]

This was what she needed. After playing the stunts like she. There was no other way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Otherwise they would have buried her alive.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, for sure. Buried her alive for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I mean, she. I think she just sealed it for herself with this.

[Naomi Smalls]

I loved in the challenge, she had, like, the saggy pants. I feel like I never see drag queens wearing saggy pants.

[Shopify Announcer]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was very cute.

[Naomi Smalls]

It was cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The look was great. Let's go into George's. All right. I love this look.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This look is honestly fantastic. Is she a cactus too, or. Or a Venus fly trap?

[Naomi Smalls]

Venus fly trap? Yeah. I've never seen something like that either. I'm like, how the hell do they make that out of fabric? Is it. It's also, like, encrusted and, like, neon green stones.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it's amazing. This look is ab. I love the silhouette of, like, the stirrups. Changing the shape of the stirrups.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This look is. I have no notes. This looks amazing.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, Gorgeous. Then the hair is like. It makes sense with it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Like a little flowers or something.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, if she had a hip hat, it'd be a little bit nicer

[Naomi Smalls]

for me, but I was gonna say, okay, fine, fine, fine. Of course. That would have been nice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. But other than that, this look is honestly great.

[Naomi Smalls]

Back in the saddle. It's jorgeous on deck. Getting harder to breathe with my foot on your neck. I'm pretty and I'm funny and I'm a lip sync turner. None of these things describe Tina Burner.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a great part. That's great.

[Naomi Smalls]

Love my sister Carrie, but don't get it twisted. Ru would love you too, if she remember you existed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So great.

[Naomi Smalls]

The butthole is back. Nice to meet you, Lydia. You think you're going to win? I pity you. Nicole, welcome back. It's been a while for you. All the fans know you as Nicole Page.

[Shopify Announcer]

Who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Great.

[Naomi Smalls]

Take it all in. How does it feel to know your ass is the second best? Brooks here. Speaking of mistress, let's be for real. You looking like Godzilla in a one inch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's such a great line.

[Naomi Smalls]

You talk the most yet, say the least. To quote Alyssa Edwards.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Beast. That was a great. It has a callback which a Drag Race reference with people, which people love. There were some great bars in there, and her performance was the best by far.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, she Was, like, going.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, she was doing it.

[Naomi Smalls]

The pony, the outfit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The coffee grinder.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you remember? She's the coffee grinder. When you sweep your leg under your other foot.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's when you hit the ground, you sweep your leg around, you hop over your foot.

[Naomi Smalls]

Ferris.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think you can do a coffee grinder? I believe in you.

[Naomi Smalls]

I probably could.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll try it in there and then we'll. We'll. We'll. If it happened. Here's the footage.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay, perfect. I did, like your step, your aa. Do my little dance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, do my little dance. Oh. Okay. We'll make a tik tok where you and I try to do the coffee, coffee grind. That's our next.

[Naomi Smalls]

Perfect.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Our next little. Are we doing the heels, honey? Let's go to Kari, Kobe. Kari, Kobe. This look every. Okay, this is how you do a reveal. What you reveal to has to be better than what you were wearing before. This is the way this fly trap opened. Stunning. This outfit. Stunning. And then that. That second reveal. Never saw it coming.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, me either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Never saw it coming.

[Naomi Smalls]

Me either. And it takes, like, real bravery to, on Drag Race, have them set you up and let the judges stare at you fumbling. Oh, yeah. Like, they're literally just watching you, like, fumble because, you know, before they use it. Yeah. Oh, they will, totally. If it went wrong, they would have used it, but it was, like, so impressive. Who else could be doing this? She looks. She looks amazing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This was fantastic. Let's go to her verse. Not as great. I'm gonna give it to you, sis. I'm a prophetess Ain't no ain't no that's which is pretty much a straight up Nikki line.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, yeah, man.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Keep it tall, real. I'm a prophetess but you at least you took the L off your bucket list. It's time to make hits and it's time to diss. It's on Barbie tings. I'm gonna give it to you I'm gonna give it to you, sis. I'm a prophetess Ain't one bad built Ain't one bad built Stopping this because I could never be a bitch from OB City Titties pretty peep the peep the giddy giving diversity okay, yeah, where's

[Naomi Smalls]

the stretch a reach

[Bob the Drag Queen]

chicken Bitches want to pop off so damn bad Talking about some bullshit that they never had I stand 10ft tall God damn, I'm glad it's. It's the one good thing that I got from my dad. She dragged everybody.

[Naomi Smalls]

I actually love that line.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is the only person that she mentioned by name.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Her dad. He probably deserved it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're right. You want to boohoo. That ain't sad. I know you about to be mad when I run this back Turn my cheek when you smack it but you'll. But you still do it. Do what I say. So I'm a lyrical miracle Extra guac e queso that little bitch just played me something in Spanish. Fuego. I'll eat you up like Eggos 5, 5, 5 hoes in the attraction. Yeah. Cause I'm about that action. Not a great diss track.

[Naomi Smalls]

Not a great diss track. Not a great RuPaul's Drag Race all Stars. Roast your competitors. Diss track.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There was some good stuff in there, but, like, girl, this is. We need to be roasting.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I will give it to the judges. There were times where I didn't know who the fuck she was talking about.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't know who she's talking about at all. But I know the bad built body because she explained it. But, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but, like, let me give you one and see if you know who it is. Ready?

[Naomi Smalls]

The obesity thing. I don't get that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Obesity.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, I thought that was a place.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I could never be from OB City.

[Listener/Caller]

To be clear, I was also. Maybe that's. It was hard. She was the one who was hard to understand. And I didn't have subtitles, so I was, like, trying to type.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, it makes sense. Ain't one bad built stopping this because I could never be from OB City. Titty's pretty giving. Getty giving. Diverse city.

[Naomi Smalls]

I like that. Then I need the explanation. But.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But Obi City is kind of. Anyway, talking about some shit they never had. Who's that about? Chicken bitches want to pop off so damn bad talking about some bullshit that they never had. Who's that?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's about you want to boohoo. That. That one thing I gave a guy from my dad. Want to boohoo. That shit ain't sad. I know you're about to be mad when I run this back. Who is that? Who is that? And I think that the Spanish part is supposed to be toward George's.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, I kind of liked her performance of that. Like, I was like. It was, like, kind of speeding up or something. Yeah, that was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was a little lyrical miracle. Will I be there? Oh, God damn that down. Kurt Cobra. It'll make sense later.

[Naomi Smalls]

Carrie. Colby Mathers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, the character. It'll make sense later. You remember that.

[Naomi Smalls]

What is that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a deep cut Drag Race thing. During meet the queens, Ms. Fame said something about chickens.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then the produce, like, what?

[Naomi Smalls]

She goes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It'll make sense later.

[Naomi Smalls]

Work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, so during the judging. I think that judging of Tina Burner is not fair. I think Tina did a good job.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, her, like, you, like, breaking down her verse.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Was like, okay. It was really smart. It was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her performance wasn't great. Maybe I'm a Tina Burner apologist.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think you do have a soft spot for Tina Burner.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe.

[Naomi Smalls]

And that's okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The judges love George. Her performance was amazing. Her look was great and her verse was good.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Michelle said something like she every syllable had a dance move. I was like, that is so quintessential how Georgia's performs.

[Listener/Caller]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She choreographed the number.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. The judges will not convince me that Nicole Page Brooks did a good job. They will not.

[Naomi Smalls]

She wore big hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They will. I will not be convinced. I will not be convinced. The top two queens are Mistress Brooks and George's. They lip sync the hot to go right in front of Chapel. Roan and George's and Lydia both won the lipstick and split one.

[Naomi Smalls]

Mistress George is a Mistress Lydia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me say this again. Topic Queens are mib and George's. They lipstick the hot to go in front of Chapel. Ron. George's and Mistress both win the lipstick and split a point. They have half a point each for their performance. Do you agree with that? No, I think George's cooked her.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. I think George's. I mean, she was also dressed as a pink pony cowgirl. Like, it was perfect. She catered it to the judge, to the song. And I think she performed a little better.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She cooked Mistress up. Mistress. Maybe Mistress is saving the tricks, but it's not pointing saving, because we already know what you do. We already know about the titty bounce. We already know about the splits. We already know about the kick. She did a kick.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I don't know if Mistress was, like, saving it up or if she thought it doesn't go with that song or.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think there's also a world we're living in. A world now for Drag Race. Sadly, the all black looks, either performance or Runway, they just do not translate on this stage. So, like, when you have a neon pink cowboy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

And red hair next to, like, someone who's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, the whole stage is black now.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes. And, like, the backdrop, a lot of it is black, so you just kind of get lost. And a lot of her was just like, Matte Black Fringe. But I really think that George is kind of eight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So after a bit, George's. So they split, and then at some point, Mistress said that she feel like girls from the older season can't keep up, which I don't think that's necessarily true. I think it's true for Nicole Page Brooks in this moment. But like Alexis Mateo.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Came back and eight.

[Naomi Smalls]

Manila.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Manila came back in eight. B to harbor came back in eight. I. I think it's. It's not fair to say that girls from older seasons cannot come back and do a good job because we've seen that.

[Naomi Smalls]

Obviously, that's Jessica Wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jessica Wild. Yeah. It's possible to come back and do a really good job.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Honestly, I think that Nicole Page's Brooks, though. Nicole Page Brooks's drag is so of that time of season two.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

And drag has just, you know, it's a lot bigger now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who's winning this season of Drag Race All Stars? Who's going to be the winner of All Stars? We didn't ask last time. Who's going to Win All Stars 10?

[Naomi Smalls]

I think it's going to be. Oh, Irene.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Irene.

[Naomi Smalls]

She's up there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

While I love this bracket, she won

[Naomi Smalls]

every this is True episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

While I love this bracket, I don't think the winner's gonna come from this bracket.

[Naomi Smalls]

The second bracket.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, the winner's not coming from this bracket.

[Naomi Smalls]

Damn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't see it from this bracket. It's either gonna be Irene or Ginger Man. I can't imagine Gingerbread would come in and not do a good job. I'd be genuinely shocked if Ginger man showed up and flopped. To be honest, when she went home early on All Stars 2, I was gagged.

[Naomi Smalls]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, oh, wow. Oh, so early with that cast.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, I don't think so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'd be really shocked if Gingerbread did not do a good job. Yeah, I'd be shocked if asked if Betty didn't do a good job.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, I hope ass wins.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'd be shocked if I was shocked that Irene did such a good job, to be honest.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. My prediction is still Ginger. Ben. We got a video on Tuck. You can see it over on Patreon. And we'll be talking about the Twitter drama, as always. See you all there.

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