Sibling Watchery: Drag Race All Stars S10 EP3 "Hoop Queens"

Summary

Sibling Rivalry: Sibling Watchery – Drag Race All Stars 10 EP3 “Hoop Queens”

Date: May 22, 2025
Hosts: Naomi Smalls & Guest (identity not clarified, but a fellow Drag Race alum)
Episode Summary: Hilarious, incisive, and occasionally shady, Naomi Smalls and co-host break down the third episode of Drag Race All Stars 10, “Hoop Queens.” This episode features a makeover and musical challenge with basketball as a theme, drama over alliances, and a deep dive into runway looks, lyrics, and Drag Race history. Throughout, the duo swaps stories from their own seasons in classic Sibling Rivalry style, blending personal anecdotes, meme call-outs, and insightful critique.
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Episode Theme & Purpose

Main Theme:
An in-depth, comedic review of RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars 10, Episode 3: “Hoop Queens,” focusing on the strategy, runway, lyrics, and drama within the episode’s unique voting and alliance dynamics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter & Twitter Drama (00:05–03:00)

• Naomi Smalls welcomes everyone, clears up rumors about her not being "poached" from another podcast, and addresses their show's reputation for being polarizing.
  • “Naomi Smalls is a free agent… she can go wherever she wants. There was no bidding war.” (01:17)
• Announcement: Twitter drama surrounding the season will be discussed exclusively on their Patreon (“Untucked”).

2. Voting, Alliances & Melanation Station (03:00–16:40)

• Analysis of the episode’s unique voting system and the formation of "melanation station" (the Black queens’ loose alliance).
  • Naomi: “It is melanation station, not Malaysian.” (02:48)
• Dissecting strategic game play: the desire of contestants to avoid going first in voting, shifting alliances, and the implicit tension this creates.
  • Naomi: “I think they want to change their votes based on what the other girls say, which seems kind of like fake to me… it’s a little cowardice.” (03:13)
  • Co-host: “Even though aja is in melanation station, I think they were trying to be like, well, aja's doing better than us, so let’s just, like, not give her a point.” (03:36)
• The complexity and frailty of alliances.
  • Naomi: “When you have an alliance… you can’t do more than two, maybe three. If y’all are all communicating… but it feels like Olivia has an alliance with Deja, Olivia has an alliance with Aja, Aja has an alliance with Olivia— but they’re not communicating…” (03:47)
• Debate: Are alliances really about shared identity, or just strategy? The hosts compare with their own All Stars experiences and even reference alliances outside Drag Race (e.g., “The Traitors”).
  • Naomi: “Our blackness was part of what made me more bonded with her, but… it wasn’t the only reason.” (15:22)

3. Behind-the-Scenes Drag Race Memories (10:22–13:21)

• Naomi and co-host share war stories about pre-show antics, bus rides in drag, and nearly breaking a $25,000 camera for the sake of a blurry selfie.
  • Naomi: “Naomi falls, lands on the camera, snaps the lens off the camera… The picture was blurry. Just went and sat back down.” (13:12)
• How the show’s production choices (e.g., quick transitions to press and promo, forced drag for bus rides) ramp up tension and create iconic moments.

4. Mini-Challenge: “Hoop Queens” Basketball Makeover (19:20–26:42)

• Reactions to the sports theme, basketball memories, and the humor of RuPaul attempting layups at 65 years old.
  • Naomi: “RuPaul missing that layup sent me… 65. The fact that she landed didn’t crumble into pieces…” (20:44)
• Irene wins the mini-challenge by making the most free throws.
• Discussion on assigning makeovers: hosts critique the process as “problematic,” especially when contestants make choices based on perceived likability or body type.
  • Naomi: “I have to say I think we should stop this when it comes to the makeovers… It can get quite problematic.” (21:51)
• The awkwardness of contestants being chosen based on “attractiveness” or compatibility and the underlying emotional impact.

5. Runway & Makeover Critique (27:44–52:59)

• Extensive, look-by-look breakdown of each makeover pair, with sharp critiques, praise, and lots of tangential storytelling.

Highlights:

• Deja Skye & Sophie Roshius: Positive body shape comments but confusion over styling and “family resemblance.”
  • Naomi: “Your body looks so good… Why are you not always wearing padding?” (29:20)
• Irene & Estelle the Alien: High praise for originality, cohesiveness, and makeup; debate over fabric choice.
  • Co-host: “I hate crush velvet… reads so cheap to me in comparison to velvet.” (35:43)
• Bosco & The Goddess: Presentation adored; garment choices criticized for “aging up” the pair.
  • Naomi: “If I saw a queen wearing this at a club… I wouldn’t be like, ‘Did you see...’” (39:54)
• Phoenix & Maya: Self-aware, referencing their own previous Drag Race moments; read as “niche” and “the juice is not worth the squeeze.” (42:28)
• Olivia Lux & Octavia Lux: Considered the best family resemblance, looks praised as “universal” and “fun.”
  • Naomi: “They really look alike… These are really cool outfits.” (47:24)
• Aja & Tiva: Mixed reactions to conceptual “from the cocoon” look; love for the hair but critique for inconsistent wings and questionable footwear choices.
  • Naomi: “I do think that she should have gotten bigger, more custom wings… I do not love this look. I actually do like this hair, a lot.” (54:21)

6. Lyrics Review & Criticism (31:53–61:58)

• The hosts read and evaluate the contestants’ original basketball-themed verses, with hilarious, deadpan breakdowns:
  • On basketball references: “I know three things: three pointer, literally… I mean, parts that I do… Like, I don’t get what? Jiggle and jangle—is that a basketball?” (32:39)
• Naomi and the co-host improvise and roast the use (or lack) of actual basketball lingo.
  • Naomi: “You have to do something basketbally.” (41:56)
• Standout lyric opinions:
  • Deja’s was their favorite for basketball references.
  • Olivia’s was a close second: “Why settle for two when you can shoot for three?” (50:59)
  • Bosco and Phoenix’s verses were largely panned for being vague or awkward.
  • Naomi’s own “sample verse” (61:19): “Double dribble with a big set of double Ds / dunking on the diva and I do it with the ease…”

7. Judging, Results, and Drama (62:05–70:53)

• Discussion of Michelle Visage’s critiques, especially her “running gag” about disagreeing with the contestants.
  • Naomi: “I have a plaque in my bathroom that says ‘I’m gonna have to disagree with Michelle.’” (62:20)
• The twist: points are revealed on the main stage; the system finally works as intended for drama, with the bottom girls ousted and “wild card” twist teased.
• Results:
  • Irene wins the challenge and lip sync.
  • Winners advancing to the next bracket: Irene, Bosco, Aja.
  • Phoenix eliminated with a single point, but with a possible wild card re-entry.
• Hosts reflect on whether the outcome matched their predictions and who from the eliminated group might win a wild card return.
  • Naomi: “Who’s going to win All Star Season 10 based on this bracket?” Co-host: “Acid Betty.”
  • Naomi: “I think it’s going to be Ginger Minj.” (70:21)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There is nothing cuntier than laughing in someone’s face when you know they’re lying to you.” – Co-host, (17:07) on Aja laughing at Olivia Lux after being “backstabbed”
• “RuPaul missing that layup sent me. That was… honestly, she’s so funny. 65. The fact that she landed didn’t crumble into pieces.” – Naomi Smalls (20:44)
• “I snapped a $15,000 lens off the camera, and then I just stood up and said, ‘The picture was blurry.’” – Naomi’s anecdote about the infamous bus ride (13:12)
• “I think drag is a costume. I like it. Do you like it? We love it.” – Aja’s poised response to Michelle’s critique (62:56)
• “Why settle for two when you can shoot for three?” – Olivia’s lyric, lauded by both hosts (50:59)

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Judging & Final Thoughts (64:43–End)

• Hosts' critiques diverge from the judges (e.g., would have put Olivia in the top instead of Bosco).
• Wry commentary on production manipulations, the returning wild card, and the evolving game format.
• Finale speculation for the All Stars 10 crown.
• Reminder: Twitter drama and “Untucked” content exclusively on Patreon.

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Timestamps for Important Sections

• Alliances & Voting Drama: 03:00–16:40
• Behind the Scenes: Production Stories: 10:22–13:21
• Mini Challenge Recap: 19:20–26:42
• Runway & Makeover Critique (all pairs): 27:44–52:59
• Lyrics Reading & Critique: 31:53–61:58
• Judging, Results & Wild Card Twist: 62:05–70:53

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Tone, Language & Flow

• Tone: Irreverent, sassy, gossipy, but deeply knowledgeable; a mix of camp humor and sharp-eyed analysis that’s loyal to Drag Race’s spirit.
• Atmosphere: Like listening in to two besties (and Ru Girls) who know the game inside out and aren’t afraid to call out the show or each other. There are frequent detours into personal history, meme lore, and RuPaul-alum inside jokes.

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For Drag Race fans who missed the podcast, this summary captures all the sharpest observations, quips, and drama — minus the commercial breaks and Patreon teases — so you can jump in ready for next week’s All Stars intrigue!

Transcript

[Host/Announcer]

Foreign.

[Naomi Smalls]

And welcome back to Sibling Watchery. I am joined by the remarkable, amazing, my co host for the whole season, Ms. Naomi Smalls. Round of applause.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

You in this, in this forum, you once called me Davis Heaven Smalls.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I love calling you Davis Hepbin Smalls. And we are reviewing RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 10 episode 3 hoop queens. And by the way, just you all know, we will be discussing the Twitter drama. Yeah, we're going to be discussing it. It will be. It'll be on the untucked exclusive on Patreon. So if, you know, if the girls who know. No, if you want to know how we feel about what we had read on X,

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I'm learning that the words that come out on this podcast through your lips and mine are very polarizing.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I think this might be one of the most controversial review shows of. But I feel like, I mean, I don't watch a lot of race chaser. Are they controversial over there?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think in different ways. In different ways. But it's also, like, normally directed at very specific things always over there, like RuPaul.

[Naomi Smalls]

And also, to be clear, we did not poach Naomi Smalls. No, Naomi Smalls is a free agent. Y' all are wild in the comments. Naomi Smalls is a. She is a double. Oh, she's a, she's a double O7. She's a free agent. She can go wherever she wants. There was no, There was no bidding war.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I'm a free agent. And I'm flattered that multiple platforms want to hear what comes out of these big inflated lips.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, people love you. People really like your perspective.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, I, I, I never really talk about drag out of drag, but you, you, I got you to do drag last week. You're getting me to not do drag this week.

[Naomi Smalls]

And also, I want to be.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Okay.

[Naomi Smalls]

I have to let it go. I have to let it go.

[Host/Announcer]

Right?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Okay.

[Naomi Smalls]

But I ordered from Dick's Sporting Goods some Lakers jerseys, and I was gonna put, on, like, a little cornrow wig with a headband, and we had white socks, and we were gonna wear jock straps, but the guy showed up and he didn't have the. You have the jock on. I was so disappointed. We were gonna do a cute costume, but anyway, it would have been cute. Just know, Just know that we had a plan, and it was gonna be adorable. And then I saw at the end of next week's episode, it was the eight ball. I was like, what are we gonna dress like a bag of cocaine?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Anyway, Something from season eight Maybe.

[Naomi Smalls]

Maybe.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

We'll see.

[Naomi Smalls]

Maybe. We'll see. We'll see. That being said at the top of the episode, I love that Aja cannot accept that she was not in the top two. She's the third of the top, which is so funny to me. And Aja said that. So before they even get to anything, Aja, like, I'm going to give my point to Liv. Like, Aja, like, I'm going to give my point to Liv. She's saying this out loud because she still believes in Mimu.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right.

[Naomi Smalls]

And we.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

We.

[Naomi Smalls]

It is melanation station, not Malaysian.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yes. Melanation station.

[Naomi Smalls]

Malaysian baby. Malaysian Baby doll. Fox station. Melanation station. I was like. I was like, it's melanin. I remember it's melanin something. And none of the girls want to go first and they give their points.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. Why is that?

[Naomi Smalls]

I guess because they. I think they want to change their votes based on what the other girls

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

say, which seems kind of like fake to me.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's a little cowardice.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

In my opinion, like, you know, make your decision and stand on it.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think that is actually what happened in this scenario too.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think that.

[Naomi Smalls]

You think they were changing their opinion. They're changing their opinions.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think that Deja and Olivia almost had, like, a alliance unspoken on camera, but between them.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Even though aja is in melanation station, I think they were trying to be like, well, aja's doing better than us, so let's just, like, not give her a point.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right. Or try to even it out.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right. I'd be pissed if I was Aja.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, I'd be turned.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

I would cause a scene, for sure. I would absolutely cause a scene. But also, that's why when you have an alliance, it kind of. You can't do more than two. Maybe three. Maybe three. If y' all are all communicating about who you're gonna give your points to. But it feels like Olivia has an alliance with Deja. Olivia has an alliance with Aja, Aja has an alliance with Olivia. But they're not communicating about melanation station

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

is what is the point of melanation station? Like, are they all three trying to get to the top?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. I think they want the black girls to go to the top or they

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

just want one of the black girls to go to the top.

[Naomi Smalls]

Ooh, that's a good question.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Because let's get real.

[Naomi Smalls]

All three aren't gonna make it.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

No, that's just not possible with. In a world where Bosco and Irene are Winning are crushing, and the other two options are Deja and Olivia.

[Naomi Smalls]

Right. But also, I mean, we'll get to it, but in that, of the three, I feel like we kind of all agree, like, Aja should be the one going.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Well. Yes.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, like, obviously. And I feel like Deja's on that. By the end of Untuck again, we're gonna. We are gonna discuss Untucked over on the Patreon. But to get into it, they choose Aja to go first because she has the most points of the bottom girls. So Aja gives her point to Liv because of the alliance. So Aja said, I'm giving her this point because I have an alliance. Aja is speaking the alliance out loud so that everyone can hear, and. And girls are starting to gag. Phoenix is like, oh, we. Oh, we doing it like this.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right?

[Naomi Smalls]

And then Phoenix gives her point to Deja because she said that she related to her being in her head, which is a. They're your points.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

She said, I struggle, you struggle. We're both not that great. Like, literally, here's a point.

[Naomi Smalls]

Like, as the bottom queens, we should, like, okay. I mean, they're your points. Your vote. Vote how you want to fucking vote. And then Liv, Aja is, like, literally,

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

like, looking like, all right, that shot was cinematic. It was cinematic gold.

[Naomi Smalls]

Beautiful.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yes.

[Naomi Smalls]

Especially when Aja goes, okay. Or she's like, yay. She's like, yeah. Like, she hid it pretty well. But she was gagged.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

She was gagged, but the cameraman was doing extra work there.

[Host/Announcer]

Right.

[Naomi Smalls]

They were like, set it up, set it up, set it up. Make sure Ash is right between them. And so Liv gave her points in danger because she feels like. Because she feels like she accepts excelled. And this is what she said because she feels like she excelled in the challenge. And then Deja gave her point back to live because she said she feels like she owed it to her, which is kind of gaggy. She's like, I owe it. She's like, yeah, you didn't do great. I don't relate to you being your head. I just owe it to you. I just. I literally owe you a point because you literally gave me a point.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah, that's not how it works, though.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, they're their points.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Do what you want with it. That's true.

[Naomi Smalls]

But I think they should have been doing it on the main stage. Like, they did the episode the whole time.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. Like, every single. At the end of each episode, you think the MVQ should have been out.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Yes.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Wow. Oh, and then they'll break down.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Because they write it on. Because they write it on their. On their. On their thing. And you have to, like, you can't swap it around. You've written it on your. Like the frosted mirror.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right.

[Naomi Smalls]

So that's what I think should have happened. And Aja is fully gagging. Like, Aja is like, would you do an alliance? Did you have any license on your season of All Stars?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Not really. Not really? No.

[Naomi Smalls]

You. You was Lord of Nobody. Why were they so gag when you sent Manila home?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, I don't really know. Because.

[Naomi Smalls]

Because they think she didn't do poorly or something.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think it's because she was just doing well in the season. Yeah. But like, the week before that, Latrice kept me over Valentina.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

And I just, you know, I mean, I love Latrice. So when it came down to eliminating Latrice or Manila, it was going to be key.

[Naomi Smalls]

Was it like, was it like, was it like a tit for tat or did you think Latrice did better that week? I can't even remember what the challenge was.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, I think they both did pretty poorly in the makeover moment.

[Host/Announcer]

Do you?

[Naomi Smalls]

Do you. How does it feel to be the catalyst for one of my favorite Drag Race memes of all time?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Wait, what is that? I forgot about that.

[Naomi Smalls]

This is one of the best I would. I was sending that gif as a response to everything for a solid month shout out to Michael. That is one of my favorite. That's one of my all time favorite All Stars moments.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It was shook, shaking and stars and you caused it. I love that. I mean, we haven't had a season like that All Stars since.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, truly. Y' all would be a shady up in there. You know, One of my favorite things y' all's All Stars, which is during the. I found a little bit of tea. Monet told me maybe. No, Monet didn't tell me. Someone else. Someone told me that when they were all hell, RuPaul, some girls didn't want to say it. So if you go. So if you go back. Because it was during Christmas time or it was at least, right.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I mean, it could have been anyone saying all hail Britney Spears would have been weird, you know, but it was like a.

[Naomi Smalls]

There was like they were like crushing this ice over Carol of the Bells. And at the very end, it goes. Now everyone look at the camera and say, all hail RuPaul. And there are certain girls who just are. It was you. I think Gia.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think me Gia Farah. I feel Like, Jasmine probably didn't.

[Naomi Smalls]

Who started? I'm not gonna say that. Was it like a ripple effect or did y' all individually, of your own accord, be like.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think it was like a group reaction being, like, all looking at each

[Naomi Smalls]

other like, what, is it a coincidence that none of the girls who said it won the show?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think. I'm pretty sure Monet definitely said it. I'm pretty sure Trinity said it because they were, like, still in the running to win.

[Naomi Smalls]

You didn't have anything to do. Oh, because this is after the.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

But you were the.

[Naomi Smalls]

You're in the running. I think you were in the running, right?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

No, at that point, I had already been.

[Naomi Smalls]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I wish, because I just love our world that we came from, and I want everyone to experience that same world. Like the fact that we filmed the first episode, the elimination, and then the next day was promo.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think it just adds so much more tension suspension. I don't even know what.

[Naomi Smalls]

And it's more real, too.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It's very real.

[Naomi Smalls]

Because when the girls have. Because y' all don't realize you have to film these Meet the Queens and look in the camera and say, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna be the next Drag Race superstar. Because, yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, and our season, the only one who was fully lying was Nature Lopez.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right.

[Naomi Smalls]

But she ended up coming back anyway, which that was. That was neither here nor there because she had been eliminated. But, yeah, a lot of these girls who, when they are doing their, like, Meet the Queens, talking about how they're going to beat everyone, they've already lost.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I mean, what would you say? 90% of the cast.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Has to lie.

[Naomi Smalls]

Which. Which is like, I was one, but I am. I am nothing if not bold. So I remember. Do you remember on our. On our. On our bus ride to San Francisco where they were trying to make us get in full drag to ride the bus from. By the way, when I say the bus, I don't mean like a charter bus. It was a party bus. It is a six and a half to seven hour drive.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

But the way they painted it, they were like. And you're going to have vanity so you guys can get ready.

[Naomi Smalls]

And there were two benches in a stripper Shay.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Lounges.

[Naomi Smalls]

Nothing. Two benches on the side. Like two long benches and one stripper pole in the middle.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

And they stopped at a restaurant on the way down. So I'm going to be like an eight, nine hour trip.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It was insane.

[Naomi Smalls]

And they were like, we want you guys in full drag, and we want you guys to, you know, make content

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

the entire bus ride.

[Naomi Smalls]

And I said. I said, I'm not doing that. I literally refused to do that. I. I actually drafted a letter. Do you remember this?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I do remember.

[Naomi Smalls]

I drafted an email.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think you sent it.

[Naomi Smalls]

I sent everyone the email and I said, guys, we're all going to send this email at the exact same time. So we're a unified front. We are all going to send this email at the same time so that no one is the outlier. And two girls didn't do it. Chichi Devane and Derrick Berry. And Derek was like, I'll do it. They'll be my backup dance. I said, I don't give a fuck. I don't care. I. And someone's like, aren't you worried that they won't let you? I said, no. Hell to the no.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

No.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

And on that bus ride, those cameramen, because they ended up filming us out of drag, they were so happy that we weren't in drag, they realized, like, that would have been insane.

[Naomi Smalls]

And last thing I'll say, we'll get back to the episode was my. One of my all time favorite. You're probably so scared of me telling the story. Oh, God. It's one of my all time favorite Davis Hep and Smalls moments. We were on the bus and I remember talking to this cameraman about these cameras. I was like, oh, are these your cameras? Do they belong to Viacom at the time or is it. They belong to Viacu. No, this is my camera. And they just insure it. I was like, oh, okay. And I was like, how much does it cost? He was like, well, the body of the camera is like $10,000, but this lens is like $15,000. It was like a $25,000 pieces of equipment. And I was. We had just had this conversation, and there was this giant light panel. Like, maybe like 10 minutes later, there's this giant light panel. And Naomi goes, I want to take a selfie, by the way, out of drag. Fully out of drag. I want to go take a selfie.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

On a moving bus.

[Naomi Smalls]

On a moving bus. Naomi walks over to the light to take a selfie. We hit a bump. Naomi falls, lands on the camera, snaps the lens off the camera. The camera is broke, not twisted off. Like the threads are stuck in the camera. She snapped on this. Off the camera. And we had just had the conversation with this $25,000 camera. And then we were all gagging and Naomi just stood up and Goes the picture was blurry. Just went and sat back down.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think I still have that photo on my phone. I'll have to send it to Jay.

[Naomi Smalls]

That is so funny.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

That's why. $25,000 selfie.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, my God.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Snapchat.

[Naomi Smalls]

So Phoenix is like. Phoenix is mad because no one gave her a point.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right.

[Naomi Smalls]

At this point, Phoenix knows that she's not going to go into the. Like, she knows, right?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. But, like, I would kind of be mad if I was heard finding out about the alliances. I just gave my point to Deja.

[Naomi Smalls]

Phoenix gave her point to Deja. Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

And the only reason she felt bad for her and the only reason that Deja is not giving a point back to her is because she's not black.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Melanation station. And again, she gave her point to live because she owes it to her. But I would have been like, just give it to Aja because she did a better job.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right. It's supposed to be the most valued queen. There is no way in God's green earth that this week.

[Naomi Smalls]

But what's the value to you? You know, to you what's valuable is what I can get from you. So I guess we're all trying to. Your value lies in what you can give me. Is what you're giving me. I get to see you on the next bracket or is what you give me a point?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Are you playing the game in this world that like Latrice. I'm giving your point because we're both the same skin color.

[Naomi Smalls]

I made an alliance on the traitors with Danielle Reyes because we were. Well, she reminded me of my mom.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right.

[Naomi Smalls]

And I wanted us to be black and going further, but I did not make it with everyone else.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

You guys are both traitors.

[Naomi Smalls]

This is true. That is true. That's. But I did not make an alliance with Chanel. I did not make an alliance with Jeremy. I did not make an alliance with Robin, and I didn't make an alliance with the lady from summer house, Sierra drag her.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

But you did kind of have. I mean, I guess not. I was going to say you did have an alliance with your other traitors.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's true. And I was more. I was more aligned with her. And I do think our blackness came into that. She. That I had more in common with her. I related to her more. It did not work out. She voted me out of the house. So it didn't work out for me at all. But I will say our blackness was a part of what made me more bonded with her then with Boston Robin. In. In Carolyn. But then again, I was more interested in being friends with Gabby Wendy, even though they didn't show on camera, than I was with, like, Robin.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right.

[Naomi Smalls]

You know what I mean? Even though Robin's black and Gabby. So I think that the blackness was part of what connected us. But it was not. It wasn't the only reason that I chose to go with Danielle.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think a friendship is more of a reason for an alliance than anything.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, for sure. For sure.

[Host/Announcer]

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[Naomi Smalls]

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[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

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[Host/Announcer]

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[Naomi Smalls]

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[Host/Announcer]

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[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

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[Naomi Smalls]

1-800-contacts. So Liv says that she wants it so before they get up, Liv is, like, checking in like she's doing damage.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I love this. I love that.

[Naomi Smalls]

She's like. She's like, how do you feel? But before you go, I want to explain why I did what I did before you. Before you go. And she's like, you know, she gave her point to dates because. Because she wanted to even the score between the three of them. And Aja just laughs.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

There is nothing cuntier than laughing in someone's face when you know they're lying to you.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, just laugh in her face.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Just laughing through her ass.

[Naomi Smalls]

And then she named her Olivia the backstabber Lux. I'm obsessed with Aja. Laughing in her fucking face.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

She wasn't buying it.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, not at all. Oh, I want to try something. Let me see if this looks. How does this look? Hold on. I got flowers yesterday. One second. Is this going to be cute? Hold on, y'.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

All.

[Naomi Smalls]

Y' all were reading our little. Don't break it. Give it to me. They were. They were reading my. Our little whatever airplane. I saw people mind reading it. This is it. Cute, Jacob.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Yeah, I Like it. I mean, I need to go. Do you want. Do you want me to stand up and.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, is that better? I, I, I don't.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

I can't see the.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, it's fine. I. I trust that. It's beautiful. Thank you so much for these flowers. I got them from my. My. Oh, my God. Why am I gonna remember no one's name today? My season. She all she want. Ashley Nell Tipton. Ash Nell Tipton gave me these. Who won Project Runway the year that we did Drag Race.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, crazy.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, she's my 2016 little winter sister. Anyway, thank you so much, Ashley, for these flowers.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Purple hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, she was at our drag, our very first DragCon. Yeah, she was funny. My small world, Ashley.

[Naomi Smalls]

So the next day, Aja confronts Liv at the table in front of everybody. Asia is like, I'm laying it all out. We're airing the building, honey. We have an alliance. What about Mimu? What the fuck's going on? And this is where Phoenix is like, wait, what? Wait, what? There's multiple alliances. And then she was like. And then that's when Olivia's like, I want the melanated girls to go to the finale, which we now know because Irene is eating the girlies up. We been done. Ben knew that either Irene or Bosco is going to go to the finale. Go to the next round. I mean, like, this is obvious, right?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. I think the fact that she won two weeks in a row. Irene is a shoe in.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, exactly. So we know that all the black girls can't go. And this is where Phoenix is fully gagging because she's realizing her allowance. And I love when Phoenix said, I'm just now realizing I need to be in the top to make it to the next

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

episode. Three, realizing you need to be in the top.

[Naomi Smalls]

Two, your last episode, you're like, oh, my God, I need to do a good job if I'm gonna make it to the top. If I'm gonna make it to the next bracket, I have to do a good job.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Bitch.

[Naomi Smalls]

Too little too late. They go to do the mini challenge, and they go to this. This room, and they see these women playing basketball. Were you hunted down in high school to play basketball?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Definitely not, no. Definitely. Yeah. But I went to school with a lot of the kids that I went to elementary school with, and I don't think they ever saw me play, participate in a sport voluntarily.

[Naomi Smalls]

Once in my life, I. I moved to. I moved to Atlanta in seventh grade, and this one, I. I grew. I stopped growing. I've been. I've been the same height since seventh grade. And the basketball coaches were like chasing

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

me really down the hall.

[Naomi Smalls]

I was like, girl, I'm not playing basketball. And I got to high school, I asked again, I was like, girl. And I was. I was like, I'm the president of the drama club. You think I'm gonna be out here?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

You weren't interested in it at all?

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

No.

[Naomi Smalls]

We gotta get your head in the game. No.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Can you shoot? Like, if you. Do, you think you'd like, play horse and win?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, no, I'm actually pretty good at basketball. There's a great video that Monet took of me actually of me scoring a three pointer in my mom's backyard wearing a full tuxedo and like three inch, like Cuban Hill.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Wow.

[Naomi Smalls]

This is the video right here.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Ding.

[Naomi Smalls]

I ate that. Which is.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It's just because you're lucky though.

[Naomi Smalls]

I am a very lucky person. I'm not going to lie to you. RuPaul missing that layup sent me. That was. Honestly. She's so funny.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I mean, she's 65 years old.

[Naomi Smalls]

65. The fact that she landed didn't crumble into pieces.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I mean, that was very funny. I feel like that was also just like. That's just her shooting the. Yeah, like she's not. It wasn't a written bit.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, she's actually very funny. Off the cuff. I've learned. Irene wins. So they have to do a free. They have to do free throws. And Irene wins by scoring eight free throws in a minute. Was it?

[Host/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

That was fierce. That was very.

[Naomi Smalls]

How many would you get?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Worse than Deja.

[Naomi Smalls]

Do you have the form? Can you show me what it looks like to shoot a basketball?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Like stand or sit?

[Naomi Smalls]

No, just sitting, like. Oh, yeah, yeah. Low key.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

A little flick of the wrist.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's low key. The vibe. Low key, the vibe. So because Irene won the mini challenge, she now gets to pick who is going to be making over who they get the lady ballers. What was the season where they made over the. The, the, the, the boxers and stuff? That was season one, wasn't it?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They made it like the, the bushland.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I have to say I think we should stop this when it comes to the makeovers.

[Naomi Smalls]

Stop what?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Assigning people to people.

[Naomi Smalls]

It can get quite problematic.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think it's really up.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. They can be like, I'm gonna give this black right to this white.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Or like. I think there's like. There's this underlying being of being like. Well, they're like, least Attractive to attractive. I don't like that.

[Naomi Smalls]

It is wild. Like, well, I'm going to give the fat girl to the skinny girl, the skinny girl to the fat girl, the black girl to the white girl. That is in, like, the pretty, the prettiest ones. That's crazy.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Like, I'm doing something out of the kindness of my heart being on this fucking TV show and you're the. My first introduction is like, that awful feeling in school when you're picking teens, you know, I hate that.

[Naomi Smalls]

I never thought about that way. Especially when, like, when Bosco's like, I chose, like, not Bosco. Bosco ends up with this one. Who? The tall one.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yes.

[Naomi Smalls]

And, like, imagine being like, because she's beautiful, I give you her. I'm like, I did not come for y' all to call me ugly. That's crazy. But Irene said that she's pairing everyone based on who she thinks they'll do a good job with and who because. And I think it's because she's not intimidated.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

And she knows she's going to the finale.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

And I do think that you should, like, in the same breath, you should have the attitude, because drag is universal. It is for everyone. Doesn't matter if you guys are the same, like, skin tone or anything.

[Naomi Smalls]

Body shape.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Exactly.

[Naomi Smalls]

We didn't get to pick our makeovers.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

No. I remember they said our names. Yeah. Like, fully.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't know this. She's like, Bob.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I was like, no, she said Caldwell.

[Host/Announcer]

Yes.

[Naomi Smalls]

I forgot. I forgot. I was like. I forgot about that. She was like. Their little Russian accent. I choose Caldwell. And I was like. I remember being like, what the fuck? They're like, ma', am, can you redo that? How does she know my name? I don't know.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

That was crazy, though.

[Naomi Smalls]

It was like. It was like, naomi, Kim, Derek, Chi Chi. Caldwell. I'm going with Caldwell.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Long ringlets.

[Naomi Smalls]

Your long ringlets flowing over the shoulder. So they have to do a makeover and write a song.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Right.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't think they've had makeovers. Do, like, a dance or a routine or. You remember we had to do the

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

interpretive dance with the poppy feels and where Kim was slapping and picking her up.

[Naomi Smalls]

And then Kim slaps. We just look over and Kim is slapping this woman.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, it's so fun.

[Naomi Smalls]

What the fuck is going on over there? So I imagine that Aja actually might be the best lyricist in the group.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

For sure. For sure.

[Naomi Smalls]

So she's not worried about that. But she does feel alone because she. But she just feels alone because she's like, there's no one to give me points. But I actually think that if Irene had the opportunity, she would give all your points. Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I could have swore that there was, like, some sort of soft alliance between the two of them happening.

[Naomi Smalls]

It is. But. But how? What good does it do to have Irene in your alliance when she's never in the bottom?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right.

[Naomi Smalls]

You need to be aligned with people who are in the bottom.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Wow, that's so annoying, right? Yeah, so annoying.

[Naomi Smalls]

And then. So they're rehearsing stuff, and Maya, who is Phoenix's girl, cannot dance, which I can see. I don't know if. Can Phoenix dance?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

We haven't seen it yet.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Yeah, maybe she can. And Liv is trying to check in on Aja again. So Liv is still trying to do damage control. She's like, I have to do damage control. Checking in on Aja. Aja, like, are we cool? And Aja's like, kind of like, I can't trust you. Like, I feel like I can't trust you, which is completely valid. Like, 100% valid. And then Deja's girl lets her shave her eyebrows off.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

No. Why?

[Naomi Smalls]

She said she's not a Cover brows. I mean, I even. I can cover brows, and I don't. And I never cover my brows, but I know how to cover. I cover my lady's brows.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

She's also, like, she blonde also.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. But also, it didn't look that much different. Her eyebrows were so blonde, so it didn't look like, you know, if someone, like an Italian person or like, a Mexican person who has, like, dark. Dark eyebrows on their, like, you know, lighter skin. It wasn't like that. But, I mean, it can't hurt to ask.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. I mean, she was. She. She could have said no.

[Naomi Smalls]

If I let you shave my eyebrows and you don't make it to the next bracket, I'm going to dunk on

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

you before I say yes. I'm like, wait, how many points do you have?

[Naomi Smalls]

Like, literally, what are your chances? What are your chances, bitches? Let's get. Let's make that clear. But she lets.

[Host/Announcer]

She.

[Naomi Smalls]

Let's say off. Everyone's gagging. Did you cover your lady's brows because you don't cover your brow?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I'm actually on my. I. I do cover my brows now, but I'm so far back then. I did.

[Naomi Smalls]

You were. You were manicuring your brows?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah, and continuing it on my makeover. She was actually a perfect drag challenge because she didn't have eyebrows or hair.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

She Wore, like, a wig? I believe so. Yes.

[Naomi Smalls]

And my. Like, so I. During my. During my. During my challenge, I remember that I was. I was running over because I. My zipper flew off my outfit, right? And I had to remake my outfit, like, on the fly. Which is why, if you look at the show, I'm actually. I just remade RuPaul's outfit from, like, an episode or two ago.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

The blue.

[Naomi Smalls]

The blue. I made the. I was like, oh, that's in my head. I'm just gonna make. That was a peplum catsuit.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

When she walks past the stage and

[Naomi Smalls]

said, yes, that was so good. So RuPaul. RuPaul, like, takes off her drag when she gets behind the. Behind the desk. But one day, they were like, all right, let's lunch. And then RuPaul stands up. She's still in full drag, shoes, everything, and she starts cat walking across the front of the stage like, I just want you girls to know I still fucking got it, honey. And she's like. She's like, remember? She's, like, prancing around like.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It was so fierce.

[Naomi Smalls]

That was fierce. That was fierce. And I was having a Brad day. I needed that. I really needed that. Oh, you were in a good mood that day, weren't you? No, I think that was.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I actually don't even know if I was on the stage for that. I feel like you guys told me about it, but that was the.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, you won the Rock.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think that was the Rock one.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. I'm thinking of the. The. The makeover challenge. So Liv's trying to check in. I'll just not having it. And we. Now we're over to the main stage. Let's talk about these looks. Kate Beckinsale.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, my gosh. Love. I Now I just saw the full. This is my first time seeing the full length until we watched on Talking. I was like, oh, wow.

[Naomi Smalls]

This. The pants is how you show up to Drag Race as a guest judge.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

For sure.

[Naomi Smalls]

She looks stunning.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

And then we see how tall. The shoes she's wearing are giant, insane giant shoes.

[Naomi Smalls]

What do you think? I like. I like Rue's outfit a lot.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I'm obsessed with this rule.

[Naomi Smalls]

The tits are. You can see her tits.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I love it.

[Naomi Smalls]

A best breastplate.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I don't know. I don't know. But, like, I love. Like, it looks so custom.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Like, it looks like definitely, like, the lace fabric came first, and then the appliques and then putting the appliques into the hair. And I love this, like, bell sleeve, which is not something I associate with Ru. It just felt really fresh.

[Naomi Smalls]

A lot of leg. It looks great. RuPaul looks amazing. 65. 65 years old. Let's look at the rest of the. Let's look at the rest of the looks. All right, so up first, we have Deja Skye and Sophie Roshius. So ferocious.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, so ferocious.

[Naomi Smalls]

I like that.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Seeing that spelled out.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. I think Deja looks really good. She's padding.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah, she's Deja girl.

[Naomi Smalls]

Your body looks so good.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Why are you not always wearing padding when you're wearing bodycon? In my opinion, Deja sky, your body looks so good when you pad. This looks great to me. Her body. I don't like this top thing.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. I don't get the whole top.

[Naomi Smalls]

It looks like. It's like. Her body looks great. I don't love the outfit. Her hair and her body look great. I like the shoulder pad. But what is. What. What's. What's. What. What. What's happening?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I don't understand this as a duet look. They are. They're actually so polar opposite.

[Naomi Smalls]

Well, Kate Beckinsale would like to disagree, but I do think that Deja. I love the way Deja does her makeup. I think this hair looks really good on her. Her body looks great. I don't get what this thing on the front of her.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Her leotard is, like, the tip part. Right.

[Naomi Smalls]

It looks like it's, like, on with, like, snaps.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It definitely does not give me, like, family resemblance. The obviously, her makeover person looks great. She kind of looks like a forgot

[Naomi Smalls]

to me a little bit.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I don't. Yeah, like a little bit. She painted her to look like a case of forgot. Deja sky is someone who. Who uses so much cosmetics.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

So much white around her eye, like, around her face, that when she does not. And I think it's probably the blonde hair that's tying into this. When she does not wear a contact with all that cosmetics, there's something that doesn't read fluid on her face.

[Naomi Smalls]

So you prefer a contact with this amount of cosmetic.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

With all that makeup. I mean, I love a brown eye, but when you're wearing, like, platinum hair, all that white around your face, and then you have, like, these, like, piercing. Like, your eyes just look black.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. What color should you. What color contact would you wear? Like a hazel or a blue or

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

a green or something like a soft brown or lighter.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I wanted. I. I used to want to be a contact girl, especially in the. In the. When I Was in middle school. Those crazy contacts were really in, like, a smiley face. Like, I mean, like. Like. I mean, like crazy. Like a cat eye.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Like a American fly.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, but this one girl, she would do the cat eyes, but they don't. They don't stay. So. So what would it be? Sideways would be up and down. But I really. I. As you all know, I cannot get a contact in my eye. There's footage of me and Naomi. Naomi literally mounting me.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

We're going to do it one day.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, my God. Just like that. Literally.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I was going to say. I feel like it was a drag race girl. That one girl. But yes.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, this is the picture, obviously.

[Host/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Aiden Zane with that. But one day. Maybe one day. Let's go on our next one.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Jacob, let's go to the lyrics for her.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, the lyrics. Oh, yeah. Should we do it all at one time?

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, Good idea, Jacob.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Thank you.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

And then your lyrics, because it's two. So your lyrics are on that iPad.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

All right, so I'm gonna do deja sky.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

She goes, oh, no, it's two because it's between the two of them. So my A B.

[Naomi Smalls]

A B.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

That's my fantasy.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay. We can do it that way. Jacob, go give it up for Jacob the producer. I'm the. I'm the.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, okay.

[Naomi Smalls]

I'm the jiggle, I'm the jangle.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah, you know me.

[Naomi Smalls]

I make all the boys dangle now

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

pass it to me.

[Naomi Smalls]

I'm a diva on the floor usually

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

but today I'm a queen still shooting

[Naomi Smalls]

the threes I'm on the sidelines I

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

cheer and scream Baby, bring it on I got a free throw to sink.

[Naomi Smalls]

Sink where?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Bitch, please. I do this with ease But I

[Naomi Smalls]

can do it too, sis.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Not like me.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I get we're using basketball references, which for gays is probably very limited. I know three things. Three pointer, literally. I mean, parts that I do. Like, I don't get what? Jiggle and jangle. Is that a basketball?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Is this how they said it? Like, it was like. It's like playing off of each other. Oh, wow. Cute.

[Naomi Smalls]

I.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It makes sense for a basketball player, right? What side jingle.

[Naomi Smalls]

Jangle is not a basketball reference, is it?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Who said it?

[Naomi Smalls]

Deja, deja, deja.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think she jiggles and she jangles.

[Naomi Smalls]

It makes sense. I'm a queen still shooting the threes on the sidelines. I cheer and I scream, baby, bring it on. I got a free throw to see. It's not great. None of this is groundbreaking. Yeah, I like their performance. Though the performance is actually pretty fun.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

This is actually a pretty decent song.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. No, I was very impressive that they did this. Like, they recorded it, they performed it.

[Naomi Smalls]

I wish they would show them recording more, though.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

I don't know if this is, this is maybe obscure. Maybe I could be wrong. It looks like the Jing, a Jingle Jangle is a type of exercise where an athlete sprints 10 yards to a cone, then sprints back to the goal line and then 20 yards.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, they don't, they don't call them the other word, which is problematic.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Why?

[Naomi Smalls]

They used to call them suicides.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, I thought you were going to

[Naomi Smalls]

say D. They used to call them suicides back when I was in school. You run. So, yeah, I, I can see why they would change that name. I, I can see why they would stop calling them. We like run, Everyone do suicide. It was like, it's usually like a punishment you would get for getting something wrong. All right, let's go on to Irene. So Irene the alien and Estelle the alien. Irene, love these looks. This looks amazing.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

This is so. You very love black and white clown.

[Naomi Smalls]

This is so good. I can't even think. I love this big, like, Elizabethan jester collar that Estelle the alien is wearing. And I love that it's mirrored on Irene's waistline. I love that, like, Irene has the, like, Harley Quinn style diamonds. I, I, I can't. I literally have nothing bad to say about this look at all.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

No, this is very impressive. It's. They, it really worked that they were the only ones that kind of like, did something a little opposite of her drag Persona that we've seen the past two episodes. Like the fact that she painted herself white for this.

[Naomi Smalls]

But she was green the first episode.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I know, actually. Yeah, she was green the first episode. But, like, on this Runway, she's the only one that's like, non human.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Which helps. I didn't actually notice the alien ears until now. I think my only critique for this. I love the whole skirt collar matching moment. I hate crush velvet. I don't.

[Naomi Smalls]

I.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It reads so cheap to me in comparison to velvet. It.

[Naomi Smalls]

I will say it does. But is this look supposed to be Lux, though?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

No, but, like, I think it doesn't hurt to have your drag look locks all the time.

[Naomi Smalls]

That is valid. That is fair. Irene and her baller said when I'm

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

on the court the fans get loud

[Naomi Smalls]

Start on the ball, on the prowl

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Come for me she'll get bound when you see me score she shocked the crowd.

[Naomi Smalls]

I'm a queen of the court I'm

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

the mvq Give me the ring and I'll. Sorry. Give me the ring and the crowd and I'll take the trophy too.

[Naomi Smalls]

I guess at the end it kind of gets cute, but. Okay. So what are we scoring? Is it. How much does the makeover count and how much do the lyrics count?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I know it almost like, because these

[Naomi Smalls]

are pretty bad lyrics.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

I would say Deja's verse was better than this one.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I would say so too.

[Naomi Smalls]

So what? So what? So how much? How much does it even matter?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I feel like for the makeover episode, the makeover is really 75% of it. Yeah. And the rest, like, it could be. You could kill the dancing part of it or whatever, but it's not as highlighted in the critiques as the makeover.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. I don't think our. When we did our season, our interpretive dances were even remotely considered.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I don't think so either because mine was pretty bad.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't even remember mine. I don't think mine was good either. I don't even remember what mine was. Kim's the only one remember because she. She bludgeoned a woman.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Wait, what was our song?

[Naomi Smalls]

I think it was like some Sugar Plum Fairy version of a RuPaul song. It was like a Sugar Plum Fairy esque version of some RuPaul song. Maybe never go home again. Home is where you are always in your. You don't know that song. Yeah, that's from Champion.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Okay.

[Naomi Smalls]

Jim is a great album.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I mean, I was obsessed with early those days.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

For sure. No, I love these days. I've been saying asmr lover the entire time. Their makeup. I don't know how she did both of their makeups this precise in that amount of time. Because they really do not give you the proper time to put two people in drag. Yeah. And everything just looks.

[Naomi Smalls]

We're going to judging soon was that she kept saying, they're not twins. They are fully twins.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

There were times where I literally couldn't tell who was who.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. They had like, another time where they were like, you guys aren't twins. And I'm like, they're fully twins.

[Naomi Smalls]

Fully. The most twins out of everyone.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

One hundo p. They're literally the same skin color. Anyway, let's go on to Bosco. So Bosco and the goddess. I don't know if I love these garments.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. I don't love the garments, but I love the presentation. I just love them, I guess.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

They're easy to fall in Love with regard. Regardless of what they're wearing.

[Naomi Smalls]

Well, that's not a Liz Evers shit. It doesn't matter what you do. I just love you no matter what.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It's just stupid.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's just so dumb. You're a fucking idiot. You're literally the dumbest person I've ever met. And for that reason, you get to go to the finale.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Love you.

[Naomi Smalls]

And we love you. You dumb ass. Low iq. Yeah. I don't like these outfits, and I don't like that she covered up the goddess's neck. I bet this woman has a very long neck. I want to see that. I don't. Now that I'm looking, I don't think I would have put this in the top.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

No, I mean, I. I would have. I think that the goddess, like that is just. She's so impactful on the stage. She really lucked out. I mean, we love a tall drag queen.

[Naomi Smalls]

We stand.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

We.

[Naomi Smalls]

Six, seven, they said.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

That's insane. Six, seven out of heels.

[Naomi Smalls]

Which is the Hotel Tempest du jour. Is. You ever met Tempest?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yes.

[Naomi Smalls]

Six, seven, tall.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

The tallest.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I think she's the tallest queen.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

So crazy. And I love the, like, black and white. The black and white hair. I think that this is, like, the most impressive thing. And I think that the outfits are just. They age them a little bit. I think that they're both a lot younger than these looks are.

[Naomi Smalls]

If I saw a queen wearing this at a club, I would not. I would think. I wouldn't think anything bad, but I wouldn't be like, did you see.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

What are you assuming they're performing in these looks?

[Naomi Smalls]

Gypsy straps and thieves or. Or not. Black lady laughed and danced and lit the candles one by one. Definitely that. So, Bosco.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

What? Sorry, isn't the song called Dark Lady?

[Naomi Smalls]

Dark what? I say Black. African melanation station came and then she hit up. Okay, is this a long verse, or am I crazy?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah, I feel like this one's split up differently. Right, let's.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Yeah. So the goddess has one chunk, and then Bosco has another chunk.

[Naomi Smalls]

All right, let's give it a try. Here we go. Pretty privileged. I'm better than you Six, seven, and. And get the shoe legs out. Waist in mugs done today now, bitch, you now, bitch, you got. Now, bitch, you got nothing to say

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Strutting in a line yeah, we call that trapeze I got these short little bitches wishing for some more peas I know.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's the whole verse.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Yeah. So Bosco's is very short, and it looks like, they cut some of it. If you listen to the song on Spotify, there's more, but they. They. It looks like they cut some of her verse out in the edit.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, they're stacking the chords. Interesting. This is. This is bad.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Is trapeze a real basketball term, or is that just, like.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't think so. A trapeze is, like, when you, like. It's like a trapeze artist is the people who like the circus performance. Yeah. What does something do with basketball now?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Your gat got nothing.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think. I think that's a mistype.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, sorry. No, but you got nothing to say.

[Naomi Smalls]

I got these short pictures.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

That's. That's what it was in the subtitles in Paramount.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, but you got it.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

But sometimes they're, like, AI generated, so it's a little hard to.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, there's. There's nothing about this verse that I like.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

No, I don't think so either.

[Naomi Smalls]

Like, literally. Like, literally nothing.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I. Maybe I like legs out. Waste and mug is done today.

[Naomi Smalls]

But, like.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

But shoot your shot.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think that you have to do something basketbally.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right?

[Naomi Smalls]

Right.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. I do like the name the goddess, though.

[Naomi Smalls]

That is a very. And she looks like a goddess. She looks like Xerxes sister or wife from 300 your watch. 300?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

No.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, there's like, a big, tall character named Xerxes, and he's, like a giant. He's like 10ft tall or something. He's like the final boss. All right, let's go on to Phoenix. So let's talk about referencing yourself on Drag Race.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Okay.

[Naomi Smalls]

The reference has to be worth it.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

This is, like, so niche.

[Naomi Smalls]

It is pretty niche. And also, what was driving me crazy when she came out in her reveal, it was so all the snaps. All the snaps were undone except, like, the shoulders. Like, I could see the snap tape.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Was this the prison thing?

[Naomi Smalls]

Prison honey?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

And the prison honey looked really messy on the back.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It didn't look steamed.

[Naomi Smalls]

It was a mess.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Also, I like that we don't need to dress up like a shapeless inmate ever again. I feel like we've now seen it on a couple seasons where that's referenced. Wait, was she an inmate?

[Naomi Smalls]

But she's not shapeless. She bodies down. She bodies down. And I don't.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It's not the wig.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's not the wig. It's literally not the wig. I used to have that wig.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It's crazy.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Yes.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I feel like I've definitely seen photos of you in that wig.

[Naomi Smalls]

Not too much now that you said it.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It all clicked. Like a blue lip.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, always a blue lip. Always a blue lip back in the day. And then the black lip. And everyone told me I look old. And now I do only like this, like, pink lip every time I do drag Fresh.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

And I get it. They're supposed to be India, Farah and. And. And the Phoenix, but, like, it's not. The juice is not worth the squeeze.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think it's hard to, like, also reference yourself on Drag Race when, like, there's not a huge pool of references to choose from from yourself.

[Naomi Smalls]

Drag her.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

You know what I mean?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, no, I know what you mean. But also, like, what if she would have got the 6 foot 7 woman and her entire pussy would have been hanging out? Like, then what?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Honestly, it might have been more interesting because this is just. It looks if. If I. Yeah, if I saw this at any bar, I would be like, oh, yeah, work. But like, on Drag Race, an all black outfit and a bus driver wig with a little bit of length.

[Naomi Smalls]

Elevated bus driver.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah, it looks like there's some tracks

[Naomi Smalls]

added into, like, Like a shuttle driver. Shuttle bus.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

A private shuttle bus driver. Going to chaperone the dance.

[Naomi Smalls]

Chaperone the dance.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Exactly.

[Naomi Smalls]

Let's go to her verse. Birds of a feather will flock together

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

on the court or on the stage. You know, we run it our way.

[Naomi Smalls]

I am so annoyed by that Looking great feeling. Right? And you know this body's tight.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

They want us to fight prison honey.

[Naomi Smalls]

Two is better than one. So I'm realizing that when I say the song wasn't bad, I think it's just the song itself and the tempo. These are bad. These are bad lyrics.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Listening to the song, though, as a whole, I didn't think it was so, like, I was kind of catchy when I was listening to it.

[Naomi Smalls]

I agree.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

But dissecting the lines, there's a few songs like that.

[Naomi Smalls]

Like when I listen to Katy Perry's Swish, Swish. You cannot listen to these lyrics too much and still like the song. Like, my. My favorite. My least favorite league is like, your game is tired. You should retire. You're about as cute as an old coupon. Expired. You have to do all that to say you're cute as an expired coupon? Are expired coupons not cute? It's such. But the song itself is a banger.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. Some things you just can't dissect too much.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. This is a really bad. This is really bad.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

What gagged me about Phoenix's makeover is that she has, I think, the youngest contestant.

[Naomi Smalls]

She was 20.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

20 years old.

[Naomi Smalls]

20 years old.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Making them look like a 55 year old drag queen.

[Naomi Smalls]

She actually kind of looks like India Farah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah, I said 55 year old drag queen. I meant to kidding.

[Naomi Smalls]

She's 54 and that's right. Derek don't like you. That will never not be iconic. Honestly, I would not be mad to see Derek back on All Stars again.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

She deserved so much better than they gave her on five.

[Naomi Smalls]

If you're gonna bring someone back, let it be Derrick Berry. Absolutely let it be Derek motherfucking Berry.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

She's so fucking iconic.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, she's so good.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I love her so much. It was a slow burn. I love her so much.

[Naomi Smalls]

Let's go on to Olivia luxury. So I absolutely love. This is a great way these apple fits compliment each other so well. The lopsided froze had to grow on me. Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think that it works better in brunette than it works in blonde.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. I was like your hair is on crooked.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah, it's just a tighter. I like when you have like a fro that has like a strong perimeter.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I agree.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Like that.

[Naomi Smalls]

The little purse is back. I actually liked her little purse gag.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

She did the first season little purse gag.

[Naomi Smalls]

You know her season. She carried a tiny little purse. They look really good. She mugged her down.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Looks just like her.

[Naomi Smalls]

They. They really look alike. This, this, these are really cool outfits. I would wear either one of these looks minus the blonde hair. But I would wear either of these looks with that brown wig. I love the attached headphones. So cute.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

You know that reminded me of this is Thorgy. This gave me very like when Thorgy came out back in our day or like I think she maybe her neon dress and then also like it was

[Naomi Smalls]

the neon with it. Oh the skater look.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

If the roller girl. Yeah, a mix of those two.

[Naomi Smalls]

So Thorgy made fun of me for having that Amazon cat suit. She's like that was a 25Amazon cat suit. What's crazy is the outfit that Thorgy's wearing. I sold her that leotard for $5. It was not from Amazon wearing a $5 that I sold you like two years ago. Bitch. Are you kidding me?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I love my favorite detail on these looks is Octavia Lux. Like her neckline like the guitar continues down.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, does it?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

That was fierce.

[Naomi Smalls]

That is cute. I wonder if there's like an app. Did they make this guitar like or was it under guitar applique?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Do you like now with makeovers that they bring the looks?

[Naomi Smalls]

I prefer they make them there.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I same.

[Naomi Smalls]

I think we should really see what y' all are made of.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I just love a competition. I mean, I love when you sign up for this competition to be put to the task of, like, actually competing there in the workroom.

[Naomi Smalls]

But also, the real tea is we could not have done it because we had little women. Like, if we would have bought outfits from home and they gave us little people.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right.

[Naomi Smalls]

What am I gonna do with the outfit that I bought for a person who's, like, 5ft or 6ft tall?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Exactly. And that's where I think the bias that we. I have when it comes to, like, the show now is, like, I want them to have the same requirements that the OGs had to do back. Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

All of our Girls were under 5ft tall.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Exactly.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

The show that we fell in love, truly. Okay. I remember when we were on set, I don't know if this is. You can cut it. I don't know. I don't know. But when we were on set and it was the day of the makeovers, and they were kind of like, Jimmy rigging us around the back lot.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Because I think that they were, like, bringing in the little woman, and they didn't want us to see them, but we, like, ended up seeing them from, like, so far away. And I remember Chichi saw Robbie's little makeover lady. She goes, oh, baby, I thought that was Mish. And if you know me, she's brunette, and she's shorter and Crazy. It was just that. That's crazy. That tickled me. More chichi moments.

[Naomi Smalls]

One time on the set, she was just sitting there, and they would give us. During the day, they would give us food from the lot. It was, like, from the cafeteria. It was not good food, and Chichi did not want to eat it. She just did not want to eat. It was like, girls, all we have to eat. Like, you have to eat this or potato chips all day. And she goes, I don't even want to take this taste. Eat this. I said, why? She goes, good. It tastes like perfume. I will never. I was like, what does that mean?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Good?

[Naomi Smalls]

It's just like, perfume. So Olivia says, let's play it up so we can spice it up.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I'm gonna take that shot. Watch the points add up.

[Naomi Smalls]

Lipstick all over the court.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Shooting in the back door.

[Naomi Smalls]

Why settle for two when you can shoot for three? Baby, baby, where's the dream team?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Just trust me.

[Naomi Smalls]

We always keeping you quenched. Go back to the bench. I love the Go back to the bench.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah, me too.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's a really fun line. And I like that she got a couple of references in there.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I like. Why settle for two when you can shoot for three?

[Naomi Smalls]

So good. Dream team.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Shooting in the back court. Back door.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't know what that.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Like, that's not a. Oh, I know what that means.

[Naomi Smalls]

She was like, I'm gonna get a butt sex chicken hair. We're gonna talk about anal sex on this day, honey. I, I. Of the ones. This is. Of the ones that we've read so far. I think Deja is my favorite. This is my second favorite of the ones we've read so far.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yes, I agree.

[Naomi Smalls]

But, yeah, this. I think this is my favorite look.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think that this is cute. It's just, like. It's, like, obviously so universal when you pack this that it could work for anybody. Yeah. I love when, like, even if the. The look could work for anybody, there's going to be, like, a waist added or something. But obviously, this is gorgeous. Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Bring back making the makeover challenge looks, and I'm going to pitch this drag race again. You can use. You can use idea.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I don't.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't care. Tell me the sewing challenge. Bring in the pit crew. Have them remove all of the motherfucking sewing machines. Bring in hot glue guns. But you have to make an outfit. You can only use hot glue. No sewing machine.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It's shocking. They haven't done that yet.

[Naomi Smalls]

And watch the girls squirm, you think? I think some of them would. Some of them be like, thank God there's no sewing.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

How do you think you would do in that scenario?

[Naomi Smalls]

In my early years, I made a lot of outfits with hot glue, so I think I could do pretty. Pretty decent. I'm better with a sewing machine than I with a hot glue gun, but I think I can fancy. I can figure something out. Because they give you the courses to glue onto.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. I mean, I kind of wish that that was a detail that they'd have to take away, too. No corset. No pre made for the hot glue thing or for. In general for a design challenge like that. They are making the things. No corsets. No. No corsets that you can glue to.

[Naomi Smalls]

You're. You're. You are. God damn. Naomi's Drag Race, y' all hoes about to be fighting for your lives on Naomi's Drag Race.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Just the drag race that we fell in love with. Like, I mean, season three was, like, all design challenges.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yes.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

So it would just be cool to, like, have that come back.

[Naomi Smalls]

We had three.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

In eight episodes.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Insane.

[Naomi Smalls]

The first Eight episodes. We had three design challenges. Let's go on to our last contestant, which is Aja and Tiva. Ajativa. Is that a wee thing? Tiva. Steva. Tiva Sativa is the type of. I don't the place to be the place to be. These are the shooters. They ain't the shot. They looking. They looking lame to me. I'm dunking on these hoes. It's music memory, baby. Cash this in, you'll remember me.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Wait, do I talk about the look?

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, shit. Sorry, Sorry. I did not get why they bit a wing down. She said there was like, oh, I'm fresh out of the womb, so, like, I'm half developed. Then they came back and the wings were standing up. So I thought it was like, oh, the wings are up, but they weren't.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I. No, there's like. I think, you know, because you do the Runway a couple times, I think there was one take where one of the wings was deflated or, like, off or twisted or something. And then I imagine she probably did her, like, voice talking head.

[Naomi Smalls]

But now they're both down. How would both their wings get turned down? They each have one wing turned down.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

They're both just like, flimsy cough, custom wings.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I. I do think that she should have gotten bigger, more custom wings. I don't love. I don't. I do not love this look. I. I don't actually. I actually do like this hair a lot.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah, the hair is cute.

[Naomi Smalls]

The hair I genuinely love.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

The hair is very, like, House of Aja.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I think that Aja's like these, like, fabric boobs. Depending on how you move, they just look so, like, lopsided.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I hate, hate Nicki Minaj a thigh high boot. Out of context.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, you don't think they.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

What would you wear with this, like a. Like a gladiator strappy?

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, well, Naomi. No, not Naomi.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

But when you think of fairies, your mind doesn't go to, like, a Power Ranger boot, does it?

[Naomi Smalls]

Weren't you wearing, like, a strapped up boot when you first came heel when you first walked through the room?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Honestly, that would have been fine. Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, you said that lizard.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

No, I. My old assistant has it.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, gang, gang.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Why, you want it? No, the museum.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, that. Yeah. Yeah, this. Yeah. That's really cute, actually. Oh, look at baby.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

What a baby.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, my God, you look so good.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

You know, I had no idea that I had. I had never heard someone talk about my toes hanging over the edge of my shoes until the very first episode

[Naomi Smalls]

was premiered and now you can't unhear it.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, no, I will never unhear.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's all you hear. It doesn't matter if your toes never hang again.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. And then Ms. Violet said I had cliffhangers. Like a boner killer. And ever since then, cliffhangers has just followed me around.

[Naomi Smalls]

Girl, you heard of shrimp and biscuit?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

What's that?

[Naomi Smalls]

Shrimp is when your tails hang off the edge. Biscuits. When your heel hangs off the back.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I guilty of both, girl.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, I know this will shock people. No one ever, ever, ever, ever said anything negative about my makeup until I got to repulse Drag Race. And I think it's because people don't just go around critiquing how you look. It's like, hey, Naomi, it's good to see you.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. I mean, leave it to the world to tear you apart.

[Naomi Smalls]

How do you, like, does it make you self conscious now when you put on a shoe? Are you like, let me check these fucking toes? You know what?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I now I just kind of go towards no platforms. Like, I like to be flat. But like, I will say, like, if you have a size 11 foot and you're wearing a size 12 platform and

[Naomi Smalls]

you're a size 12, honestly, I ate size 15 foot with a size hell shirt.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

What is that?

[Naomi Smalls]

It's my song first. Oh, shut up. I said, girl, I'm way too blessed to be stressed. Why pay more when you can pay less? That's what I go. Size 15 foot with a size 12 shoe.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

That's my life. That's literally my life. I'm a size 13.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

But I will wrote that line specifically to be a Naomi Smalls read.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, yeah, it was. Wait, what's the Louie?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I did not know that.

[Naomi Smalls]

Before you come for me, you better shop in your claws. Tell me, is you mad or not? Your Jimmy Choos are killing you. Size 15 foot with a size 12. Because I think that it was also a read to Robbie because she said that, yeah, your Jimmy Choos are killing you. Size 15 foot with a size.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Damn.

[Naomi Smalls]

And I think the Jimmy Choo think was. No, it wasn't Jimmy Choo. It was a. There was some line in there. I tried to wrote for Robbie Turner too, because you remember when Robbie Turner was wearing that red dress.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Do you remember this Vera Wang dress?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, yeah. Is that a Vera Wang gown?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Girl, girl, I'll take your heavy doubts

[Naomi Smalls]

because she said it was a she. What she told us was that. That it was a Vera Wang dress that she purchased and when she bought it, it was a wedding dress. And she hand dyed it red. And we were like. I remember being like, that's not true. This is two different fabrics. And I don't think you have the, the, the dye skills to sew. To like dye two different fabrics the exact same color. Also, the zipper was red. You cannot dye a zipper. A zipper is plastic or metal. Metal does not die. Plastic does not die. I was like, this bitch is. I remember being like. I remember being like, you're lying. You're just lying.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

There's a petition for every episode to talk about Robbie Turner. I think it's a must. Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

I love that you never knew that I wrote that shade. I did not know that.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

But I'm telling you, if you are a size 11 and you're even wearing a size 13 platform heel, if you are strutting down, your toes will shift.

[Naomi Smalls]

You'll slide in.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

There is no way. So like cliffhangers are inevitable.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's going to happen. I never wear open toe shoes.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

No.

[Naomi Smalls]

And if I do, but I have the web foot.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

You have a tight.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, I wear tight. So if I do, I'm in the tight. So I have a few open toe shoes. But like my feet are. It's just one big toe. Like a big giant foot.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

You're not going to be convinced into an open toe life anytime soon.

[Naomi Smalls]

I have hideous feet. I have hideous feet.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

That's a lie, girl.

[Naomi Smalls]

There dogs. I have dogs. That's so bad.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

You made the rest of you work.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know. But the feet cannot. But the feet still from Mississippi. So let's, let's, let's, let's read Aja's verse. The place to be. These, the place to be. These are the shooters. They ain't the shot. They're looking lame to me. I'm dunking on these hoes. It's a, it's a muscle memory, baby. Cash this in. You'll remember me.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I'm gonna beat the buzzer. I got this. The way I, the way I shoot my shot. Just call me Steph Curry. I'm married to the game just like Aisha. Say hello to the winners. Hey, nice to meet you.

[Naomi Smalls]

I kind of respected more from aa but it is the best one though.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. Listening to it live or listening to it like on the. In the video or whatever, it did sound a lot better than breaking it down.

[Naomi Smalls]

We also don't know the flow. I can't remember the flow.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. Muscle memory. Is that the Steve Curry, Steph Curry, like rhyme? I mean, I cuz the Steph Curry think is feels very out of, like, the blue.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. Maybe it makes more sense if we. If we said it in her. In the cadence.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Who's Aisha?

[Naomi Smalls]

Maybe she's married. Maybe she's from Basketball Wives. Okay, maybe. Maybe she's married to some famous basketball player. Oh, she's a.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

She's.

[Naomi Smalls]

She's a basketball player. I'm so sorry.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh. I mean, I'm not. I didn't.

[Host/Announcer]

Damn.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Not.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Not. Basketball Wife. That's crazy.

[Naomi Smalls]

That. You know what? Aisha Shepherd, I just want you to know that you are better than me at basketball. I. I could literally never. I AM so sorry, Ms. Aisha Shepherd. I don't. She said married to the game, so I thought she meant, like, she's, like, married to someone.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I took that back to my wife, too.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know it's Corny Matty Morphosis. But I wrote a verse. Oh, Ah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Stephen Curry's wife is also Nib Daisha.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh,

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

wow.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Okay. Okay.

[Naomi Smalls]

There we go. I was like, it's gotta be something. All right, I wrote a verse. All right. Can I remember this? It ain't free when I throw it back first draft When I'm on a track it's on my name it's on my back so remember my name when you in my. When you in my space better jam ho LeBron James double dribble with a big set of double Ds ducking on the diva and I do it with the ease can't even walk, can't even walk in heels Stay up so easy, might as well be a layup don't break her ankles, don't harm her, Stay down. You're just a warmer.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Oh, I like that.

[Naomi Smalls]

That was pretty good, right? Yeah, I like that a lot.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Lot.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I like that a lot. I like bench.

[Naomi Smalls]

I hope Maddie Morris doesn't call me Corny. Oh, please, Maddie, don't call me Corny.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Please.

[Naomi Smalls]

So let's go over to the judging. So I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with. I have to disagree with Michelle. I.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It's.

[Naomi Smalls]

Is it a running gag? Do they tell them? Can you, please? Does it bother Michelle?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think it does bother her, but I. I actually enjoyed when someone just doesn't go with the flow.

[Naomi Smalls]

I have a plaque in my bathroom that says I'm gonna have to disagree with Michelle. Jacob can vouch for this. It's literally just. I'm obsessed. I should get it in a shirt. I'm gonna have to go. It's one of my favorite Drag Race memes. And then Michelle didn't Like the Aja, she thought the Audra's outfit was too costumey, and I think Aja handled that really well. She goes, I think drag is a costume. I like it. Do you like it? We love it. What a great way to handle that critique.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Eight, eight down. Michelle's critiques were for what Deja and her person. That they don't look like sisters at all.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

And then that Olivia and her person, they look. This is the best way to do family resemblance without doing twins. But they were legit twins.

[Naomi Smalls]

But also the real twins were Irene and Irene and her baller. Like, they. They were twins.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

I couldn't tell them apart. They were twins. You know what I mean? RuPaul reveals that the girls are going to have to reveal their points on the main stage after the lip sync. This is how it should have been the entire time. I do like the little twist of it coming at the end, but I love that. And then. And then we get to the judging. Irene and Bosco are the winners of the challenge. Do you agree with that?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I. Yeah, I. I could say, like, Irene and Olivia.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's what I would. I would have taken out Bosco and I would. I think. I think Olivia had a better verse. I think she had a better performance. I think she had a better look.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

I would have given it to. To Olivia.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah, for sure. I think that.

[Naomi Smalls]

But then we wouldn't get that drama of Olivia revealing her point.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right, Exactly.

[Naomi Smalls]

And I prefer the drama.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah. The impact, though, of the goddess on stage was just, I think, hard to compete with for everybody else.

[Naomi Smalls]

But how much of that was the goddess? How much of that was Bosco?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think a lot of it was. I don't know. I think it's 50. 50. She could have done her dirty.

[Naomi Smalls]

But I love a big, tall queen and a tiny little queen. I just wish that it was Georgeous and the goddess.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Exactly.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, that would be so visually stunning. Oh, I wish.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Picking up George's by the, like, the back of her neck.

[Naomi Smalls]

So then they lip sync Irene. They lives in the pocketbook by Jennifer Hudson, and Irene wins the lip sync. Do you agree with that win?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yes.

[Naomi Smalls]

Me too.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yes. Random song for these two. Do you.

[Naomi Smalls]

Melanation station should have been Malaysia. Malaysian stations should have been doing this one.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Maybe there should be, like, each Runway or each time there's gonna be a lip sync. Three options for the song that it could be. And then, like, once they see who the competitors are, almost like the producers can choose, like, what song.

[Naomi Smalls]

I agree. Like, watching what's her name Susie Toot do Alter Ego.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Sorry. Just to be clear, susie2never lip sync to Alter Ego.

[Naomi Smalls]

Well, then why is she doing around performing?

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Because there was. It was a meme that somebody made. So she episode links to episode one, episode two. Or it was. It was the episode right after where the top two queens lip sync to Alter Ego and somebody made a meme where they did Susie to lip sync to Alter Ego on Twitter and then she started doing it at bars as because she thought the meme was funny.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Watching Crystal Envy Duke Alter Ego is just as bad, though.

[Naomi Smalls]

Was it Crystal Envy? I think it was Chris Levy and somebody. Yeah. Yeah. They. They could mix it up in my

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Crystal Envy and Lexi Love.

[Naomi Smalls]

There it is. And y', all, the truth is we. We have all the songs. They give us all the songs when we get there.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Susie to lip sync to A woman's World.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, Catherine Hudson. Yeah, got it. RuPaul reveals it. So. So now Irene is in the lead with seven points. Bosco is behind her with six points. Liv, Aja and Deja are tied with three points. And Phoenix is way behind with one single solitary point.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Who?

[Naomi Smalls]

Phoenix. You're the worst. And at this point, Phoenix has to know there is no way on God's green earth she can win. She knows this now. Yeah. Even if every girl gave her a point, she still would make it. Yeah, no, she would, actually.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think she.

[Naomi Smalls]

Like, she would have because she'd have. She'd have been above the other one.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

That's.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's. I just prove myself wrong.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I feel like I would have probably playing the game and I didn't have an alliance. Given my point to Phoenix.

[Naomi Smalls]

What's a waste?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Exactly.

[Naomi Smalls]

But. But what's up? But you're. Are you. But you're leaving. Like, you're on the way out the door. You just throwing a point away.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Like, I feel like you voting third party. I feel like if I was asha, I probably would have given my point to Phoenix.

[Naomi Smalls]

I would at that point, if I didn't think I was going to go in, like, if I was in Phoenix position, I'd be like, I'm going to give my point to who I. Who I think should go, which is what she did, which is when she gave the point to aja. So RuPaul has them all write down their things on this frosted mirror and they reveal them one by one. Okay, so. So Aja gives her point to Deja because she says that she's grown. Deja gives her point to live because she had the best performance of the night. Liv gives her point to Aja because she wants to see her go to the next round. And then Phoenix gave her vote to Aja because she has been the best queen each week or something like that. She's been one of the best queens each week. And then that gives Aja five points. So Aja has five, Bosco has six, Irene the Alien has seven. And Liv, Deja and Phoenix will not be going fourth. And Phoenix leaves with one single solitary point. Honestly, that's kind of wild. That's kind of gaggy. But I guess you only have three episodes to win, you know.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

So honestly, Phoenix did a good job. You, you did your best. I think you knew you weren't gonna win, but you were the tiebreaking vote. You were the vice president. You did you cast the tie breaking vote.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Do you think she came into the competition though, assuming she was gonna win?

[Naomi Smalls]

I think she assumed she'd go to the next bracket. I hope that's why she came. Maybe not win, but at least go to the next bracket. You know what I mean?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Cuz if you don't think you're. Let's make the next bracket.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Girl.

[Naomi Smalls]

What are we even doing here?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Exactly.

[Naomi Smalls]

What are we even doing here? But I think that she, she thought she had a chance. And then RuPaul says now they're going to be an. An A, A A All Stars wild card. So each judge will pick one queen who did not get advanced. They'll be put into a bucket. One name will be drawn randomly.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Okay. Girl.

[Naomi Smalls]

And then that person will go on to the lip syllap Perusa for the crown.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

That's exciting.

[Naomi Smalls]

Which means they're gonna get to skip a whole bracket.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

But they're. Do you think they're lip syncing against the just those like selected queens that the judges choose or they're going to be lip syncing against like the people who.

[Naomi Smalls]

I hope it's just other selected queens because that would be, that would be too much.

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

So the fan theories are that it's used. It's a, it's a backdoor for production to make sure the queen, they want to get to the finale get there.

[Naomi Smalls]

Which honestly I appreciate. Like if Aja did not make it, I would be mad.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Right. There's not, there's not one from this bracket though, like that I could.

[Naomi Smalls]

I agree with the record they went through.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think so too.

[Naomi Smalls]

I agree. This is who I wanted to go through.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

I think we predicted that too.

[Naomi Smalls]

It would have been great TV if Aja didn't make it. Olivia did. That would be great tv.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh. Especially if Libya didn't give a point. That have been like, oh, my God, this is tv. I cannot wait to go to Twitter and see what the girl's gonna say. I gotta get over there and see. But this gives the other girls a little bit of hope. We find out that Bosco, Aja and Irene will be going to the next bracket. The other girls will not. But they get a second chance down the line. Who's going to win All Star Season

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

10 based on this practice?

[Producer/Assistant (Jacob)]

Nope.

[Naomi Smalls]

All the whole cast is. I know it's early. I know it's early, but it's. I always ask who's going to win?

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

Acid Betty.

[Naomi Smalls]

Acid Betty. I'm going to say I think it's going to be. Irene's gonna come in second place. I believe that from a heart of hearts. And I think that. I think it's gonna be Ginger Minj. Still. I still think it's gonna be Ginger Minj. I really. All right, listen.

[Co-host/Guest (possibly a fellow Drag Race alum)]

It's harder to hide my reaction out of face.

[Naomi Smalls]

We're going to go and talk about the Twitter drama over in the Patreon, if you want to hear this. And untucked as well. If you want to hear our thoughts on that, please come over to the Patreon. You go to siblingravelry.com support or just go to Patreon. Type in sibling rivalry. Don't type in revelry. That's a different podcast. Sibling rivalry. See you there.