Sibling Watchery: Drag Race All Stars S10 EP9 "The Golden Bitchelor"

Summary

Sibling Watchery: Drag Race All Stars S10 EP9 "The Golden Bitchelor"

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & "Sabrina S. Titties" (Selena S. Titties)
Date: July 2, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this hilarious, chemistry-filled episode of Sibling Watchery, Bob the Drag Queen is joined by recurring favorite Selena S. Titties to review RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars 10, Episode 9: "The Golden Bitchelor". They provide a detailed (and irreverent) breakdown of the social game bracket twist, the "Golden Bitchelor" dog improv challenge, notable runway looks, behind-the-scenes drama, and their unfiltered thoughts on the top contenders. As always, the pod is a blend of Drag Race analysis, personal confessions, playful shade, and trademark Sibling Rivalry mischief.

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Key Topics & Insights

Warm Welcome & Vulnerability Chat (00:08–03:16)

• Selena returns as guest and recounts her vulnerability reaching out to Naomi Smalls for fashion advice, even sending a teary voice note and being left on read. She talks about feeling insecure about style, and Bob commends her courage.
  • Quote [02:32] Bob: "It's very vulnerable of you. I want to commend you for your vulnerability."
  • Both agree that showing vulnerability doesn’t always work in the competitive Drag Race environment.

Discussion of Drag Race's Evolving Format (03:14–06:23)

• Conversation on how Drag Race’s format keeps shifting with platform moves (Logo → VH1 → MTV → Paramount+) and how the network’s love for social game strategy shows (like Survivor/Big Brother) has influenced All Stars’ bracket/MVQ (Most Valuable Queen) points system.
  • Selena theorizes the show is still figuring out the strategy element, comparing it to early seasons of The Traitors.

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Competitive Games & Social Strategies (06:23–07:32)

• The queens talk about social game skills and prior reality comp experience (Selena played Big Brother for a promo, survived as a pawn due to being ‘a lot’ in drag).

  • Quote [06:39] Selena: "I'm the Golden Mitchler bitch."

• Playful discussion on parlor games (Mafia, Blood on the Clock Tower) and the psychology of being targeted/analyzed in group games.

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Bracket Drama & Social Maneuvering (07:32–10:03)

• Breakdown of who gave points to whom, and how Ginger Minj is dominating the bracket (winning, winning, winning), leading to others feeling she brings little to alliances.

• Selena pokes fun at Daya Betty obsessing over an earlier missed MVQ point from Alyssa Hunter.

  • Quote [09:05] Selena: “It’s giving Karen. What would you do if she kept harping you about this point? I would pop off on her. You don’t get my point. I can’t give you another point.”

• Bob reveals Twitter rumors about Denali storming off and RuPaul having reprimanded her for a ‘shitty attitude’ (which Bob can’t confirm).

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Social Media/Fan Discourse & Ginger Minj's Public Perception (12:09–13:38)

• Bob keeps prompting Selena to address the camera directly re: Ginger Minj, who’s regarded as both talented and very “drag”—but may or may not be benefiting from "rigor mortis" (production favoritism).
• Selena reflects on working with Ginger in P-town and the difference between on- and off-camera queens.

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Unpacking the Challenge: "Golden Bitchelor" (20:35–26:21)

• RuPaul announces the improv dating (dog) challenge, which both hosts agree had an ‘uncanny valley’ vibe and some “puppy/furry kink” undertones.
  • Quote [21:14] Selena: "It was giving uncanny valley... it felt like pup kink, furry kink, dragon. Am I into pups? Yeah, I think they're cute, but I don't need to understand."
• Selena and Bob banter about which breeds they’d each be (Selena sees herself as a pit bull, Bob as a Doberman or maybe Selena as a pug-boxer mix).

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Runway & Performance Dissections

Improv Challenge (Dog Dating Show) (29:39–36:30)

• Both hosts agree: Ginger Minj and Acid Betty were the clear standouts in the improv.
  • Quote [31:00] Selena: “I think acid could have won this challenge along with Ginger. She was very... it was very good.”
• Critiques on the challenge:
  • Some queens leaned too heavily on crude humor ("dildos, dildos, dildos"), lacking creativity and subtlety.
  • Not all queens brought physical comedy or strong dog-personality choices, missing improv opportunities.
  • Denali's prosthetic-heavy puppy look particularly "uncanny," with Bob and Selena suggesting a funnier take would be trauma-dumping therapist-pup.

Runway: "Paper" Theme (39:02–53:06)

• Alyssa Hunter: Celebrated for her culturally inspired (Puerto Rican) mask look; some jokes about looking like a Pokémon or Lady Gaga’s inflatable suit.
• Ginger Minj: Gives ‘Elizabethan Shakespeare’ realness, with detail on the dress being covered in "typed" words (Selena doubts the truth of that).
  • Quote [43:14] Selena: "When you're on Drag Race, they ask you what are some details you'd like the judges to know? ... just lie and tell them it's all Swarovski!"
• Denali: Critiqued for her look being good, but “always just misses”; discussion on whether she wore pads; compared to fire, Hunger Games, and Mexican mythical creatures.
• Diabetty: Bob argues it's “the best look on the runway” (giant bug heel, 101 Dalmatians or anima reference). Selena is less impressed, asking why Daya's aesthetic is always 'bug girl.'
• Acid Betty: Comes out as Marie Antoinette, triggering a meta discussion about the overuse of historical European references in white queens’ drag (and specifically Marie Antoinette).
• Cynthia Lee Fontaine: Good-natured ribbing for bringing “just a piece of paper wrapped around her waist”—but deep respect for her fun and improved performances.

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Judging & Elimination Dynamics (58:03–66:55)

• Winners: Diabetty & Ginger Minj win the challenge; Selena wishes Acid Betty were in the top instead of Daya.
• Lip Sync: To "Mama Used to Say" by Junior. Both hosts find the season’s lip syncs lackluster overall, with Aja being the rare exception.
  • Quote [60:03] Bob: "No matter who they said won, I’d have been like, sure... these lip syncs this season just aren’t the tea."
• MVQ Points Ceremony: Strategic voting drama in the “Lightning Round” on stage.
  • “If they really wanted this bracket system to work, the girls should vote before they know the results...” (Selena, 62:26)
• Tally confusion about which queens advance (“tied” debates), but end result: Cynthia Lee Fontaine, Ginger Minj, Diabetty move on; Denali is eliminated thanks to Acid Betty’s final point.
  • Quote [67:00] Selena: “A lot of discourse on Twitter about Denali being robbed, but, well, Cuckoo [Cynthia] was also just as deserving.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On social gaming: [04:17] Bob: "Any fucking show I do, the Broki Show, Broki Central, we can...I get paid."
• On Ginger Minj’s need for sympathy: [12:03] Selena: “She just needs to shut up and have fun and be grateful...”
• On critiquing tired drag tropes: [30:19] Bob: “Having a long name but then saying, but for short, call me this...I just think it's coming from a mile away.”
• On drag and sex: [61:22] Selena: “If we were a movie –– that’s my favorite Miley song!”
• On cultural references in drag: [54:03] Selena: “As a Latina, I have culture to hark upon...white people’s culture references are Shakespearean and Marie Antoinette, that worst thing.”
• Bob and Selena on foreskin: [69:05] Selena: “Australians are white. What I love about them is they have foreskin…I love white foreskin!”

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Major Segments & Timestamps

• Intro & catching up (heavy on vulnerability/fashion): 00:00–03:16
• Game show social strategy theory: 03:16–06:23
• Competition/parlor games & reality gameplay: 06:23–07:32
• Bracket/social game review & Ginger-dominance: 07:32–10:03
• Fan chatter & rumors; Denali drama: 10:03–11:00
• Dog Bitchelor challenge setup/unpack: 20:35–26:21
• Improv challenge analysis: 29:39–36:30
• Runway ("Paper" theme) critiques: 39:02–53:06
• Lip sync & points drama: 58:03–66:55
• Top 3 reveal & reflection: 67:00–69:00
• Explicit foreskin/sexual banter/close: 69:05–End

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Episode Takeaways

• The All Stars 10 bracket/MVQ format is still a work-in-progress, encouraging social strategy but sometimes causing confusion and real-world fan controversy.
• Ginger Minj and Acid Betty are recognized as improv standouts (with Ginger also getting edit/fan suspicion for dominance).
• Cynthia Lee Fontaine is celebrated both for her improved performance and the emotional moment of finally getting her flowers from fellow queens.
• The overall tone is raunchy, self-aware, and camp—never far from a joke about sex, drag politics, or petty shade.
• Both Bob and Selena wish for greater creativity in both Drag Race comedy (less "on the nose" crude jokes) and runway references (move on from Marie Antoinette!).

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Best for: Listeners who want both in-depth Drag Race analysis and irreverent, uncensored queen-on-queen banter—especially those invested in the messier, strategic, real-life dynamics of All Stars.

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Transcript

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Foreign. Hello, everyone. Welcome back. My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[B]

And I'm Sabrina S. Titties.

[A]

And you are watching Sibling watchery. We're reviewing RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 10, episode nine, the Golden Bachelor. First of all, thank you. Welcome back. You're a big hit on this podcast.

[B]

Wait, am I really?

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Yeah. People love you on here.

[B]

Oh, do they?

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Yeah.

[B]

Well, you know, I like the siblings. Like your Patreon people. I like them, so.

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Oh, so everyone else is just shit.

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Yes.

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Damn. You heard it. She called you Brokey.

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If you're not on the Patreon, bitch. Fuck you, Brokey.

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No, but you're loved here, so we're happy to have you back. Naomi Smalls is disposed.

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Listen, I know I'm not Naomi Smalls, but I'm sucking it in. I'm gonna be very regal, and I'm gonna pretend I have fashion sense.

[A]

We stretched the legs.

[B]

Wait, did I tell you? You don't know this, but one time I messaged Naomi.

[A]

What?

[B]

I started crying. I sent her a voice memo. I was like, I'm very insecure about, like, my style and fashions after, you know, recently, actually.

[A]

Was it a text or a dm?

[B]

It was a DM on Instagram. And I was like, I would love if maybe I could sit down with you and you could help me with, like, fashion and stuff. And I started crying in the voice note.

[A]

Oh, you're like, crying in the voice note? Yes.

[B]

Because I was so insecure and nervous to ask her this. She left me on red for, like, three weeks. And then I saw her in person, and I was like, hi.

[A]

What did she ever. Did you talk about it?

[B]

She was like, oh, yeah. I didn't really understand what you wanted because why do you want me to help you with fashion? And she's like, I can help you with hair. And I was like, oh, I don't know. You're like, you know, you have an eye for fashion. I thought, I don't know, I could get advice from you.

[A]

Why didn't you. Why didn't you reach out to me about your fashion?

[B]

Hell, today we're reviewing season.

[A]

Would you be willing to play the voice note for us?

[B]

I think I unsensed it.

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Did you really?

[B]

Yeah, because I was. I was embarrassed. I felt so ashamed.

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If it's there, would you be willing to play it? You don't have to. This is your personal.

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I'm so sad. I was, like, very vulnerable. Also, I'm a crybaby. I felt so like, I'm A loser

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cry from time to time.

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I was. Felt like such a loser, you know,

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I just want you to know that I.

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Incentive.

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Honestly. Probably smart. Probably smart.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Probably smart. Smart. Have you been living for this season?

[B]

She's never messaged me on Instagram before. There's no response.

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It's very vulnerable of you. I want to commend you for your vulnerability.

[B]

Listen, I want to grow, you know?

[A]

This is the vulnerability the judge is looking for.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, right. I would hope so.

[A]

Yes. What do you think about the judge? Like, we just want vulnerability. I'm like, do I want good drag or what? What the fuck's going on over here?

[B]

It's pick or choose, right? Like, it's like, either you're sickening and you don't have to do anything, or. Or, like, let's knock this bitch down.

[A]

Well, you've already shown vulnerability.

[B]

I feel I'm a very vulnerable person, which I realized didn't really work for me on Drag Race. I feel. I feel like it got in the way.

[A]

Did it? Is that what got in the way? It was the vulnerability.

[B]

It wasn't the street signs.

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No, it was the vulnerability.

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I had the big red gloves.

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Well, listen, do you like this new format?

[B]

I personally, as a queen. Look at this. And, like, this sounds like fun.

[A]

Yeah, it does.

[B]

Because also, there's. There's a level of, like. You know what? I have a theory. I have a theory that ever since they moved to Paramount plus, or like, mtv, Viacom, whatever, because it was. It was not with them before my season, Right?

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Like, I was on Logo.

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The Is that girl.

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Literally, it's like. It's basically a web. A web series. It's like being on Jubilee. And then they moved to VH1.

[B]

Yes.

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And they moved to MTV.

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Then when they moved to MTV, that became, like, the Viacom family. Right? Or like, Paramount is Viacom now.

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Because Paramount, I. I believe Viacom has been absorbed by Paramount.

[B]

So my theory is, became Paramount. On Paramount plus Viacom, there is Survivor, Big Brother, These games that involve,

[A]

I think, can we raise the money to what they make on Survivor now?

[B]

Well, I think they justify it because they give stipends and, like, cash prizes for different challenges. So it equals out to the amount that they give on Big Brother. It does it not? It's a million, million dollars. Well, the fucking traders should be the

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same amount of money. I agree.

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It's crazy.

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I guess any fucking show I do, the Broki Show, Broky Central, we can

[B]

cut this, but you also get paid

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to be in traders, I get paid.

[B]

Yeah, you make a salary.

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It does not cut.

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It's a lot of money.

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It's not a million dollars, but it's a lot of money.

[B]

But you don't win a million. How much is traders?

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100,000. No, traders can be $250,000. It can be.

[B]

Oh, it's not a million dollars.

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Can be.

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And also. No, my. The circle is a million dollars and you sit on a couch and text the whole time. But that's what gagged me. Traders is 250,000.

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It can be.

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So it could be max, but also split between four people is less. And then if you're doing that, it. For some people, depending on who you are, it's maybe closer to what you actually prove.

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My point. It should be more money.

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It should be. Traders should be too. Like. And that's the thing. You're playing a mental mind game with these people. And with your RuPaul show on network

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television, she's given $100,000 per hour. Episode. Per episode.

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What show was that?

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I can't remember. I remember it was called. I can't remember the name of the show.

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Lingo.

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Link. Lincoln or Link.

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Yeah, it was Lingo. Lingo.

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No lingo.

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Yeah, the Wordle one.

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$100,000 an episode.

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Well, they're not promoting faggotry. And it's.

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It's because. It's because of the queer people on the Traders.

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That's why. It's.

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They won't give the gays money.

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The winners of your season of traders each got $50,000.

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I know. I want to reiterate. It should be more money. Anyway.

[B]

Well, that's my point. So. So my theory is because Paramount plus which dragger is now a part of, they have now people who know these strategy, social game tactics and challenges. So I feel like this implement of this bracket system and MVQ points is creating this, like, social game, which actually good. Where before, like, the lipstick stuff was. Felt like they were trying to be that. Now I feel like they're. They're trying to figure it out. Kind of like the first season of Traitors was a little messy and they're still trying to figure out how to do it. I feel like that's what this is. What we're watching is like they're still figuring out the MVQ strategy of it all because the girls aren't really understanding the strategy aspect of this.

[A]

How's your social game?

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I think it's sickening.

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I played these kind of games with you before.

[B]

Okay. But here's the thing.

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And everyone attacks you.

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Everyone attacks immediately. Because they've all played with me in the past. That was the first time you played with me.

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Oh, you're the big bad wolf bitch, period. Oh, Wolf, wolf bitch. You're the Boston Rob.

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I'm the Golden Mitchler bitch.

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Let me tell you, you're the Bo Rob of Mafia.

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I don't like Secret Hitler. I think it's, like an annoying game. I like Mafia instead. Or Blood on Clock Tower is fun too, but I'm still learning how to play that.

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It's so complicated.

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It's a little too much. And the girls who already know how to play, they're like, already so in it. And I'm like, this isn't. This isn't fair. But Mafia, let me tell you, I've played games of mafia with, like, 35 people before. And 1. How did you do in your Big Brother promo thing? Honestly?

[A]

Big Brother promo? What the fuck is this?

[B]

You know how Monet did the thing for Survivor?

[A]

You did that too?

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I was a drag queen in the US Big Brother house, and I got to do, like, a week's worth of Big Brother in one day.

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How'd you do?

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Honestly, I was on the block, but I did not go home. I was used as a pawn, but I think it's because I was in drag, so I was a lot for everyone. So they're like, let's just put her

[A]

and we all this to say, if you want to play Blood on the Clock Tower, please use our code. Watch Reed. I'm just kidding. We don't have a. We don't have.

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Not yet.

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Okay. In the. So Cynthia Lee Fontaine is very disappointed that she did not win this challenge,

[B]

but she was great. I thought she was fantastic.

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Resplendent.

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Yeah, she's a. She makes music.

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Yeah, she was. She sounded good. She. Her. Her Runway was great. She. In my humble opinion, she should have been in the top. That's my humble opinion.

[B]

Who was in the top?

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It was Ginger Min, Diabetic. And Denali.

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Denali. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Can I just say, other than Aja.

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Say it straight to the camera.

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All these lip syncs.

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Your camera.

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All these lip syncs. These seasons been trash, tragic, horrible. A.J. is the only one who's gave us. Us any good lip syncs this entire season. So bad. All of them. I don't care.

[A]

Wow. The Miss Congeniality era is gone. Who?

[B]

I didn't win Miss Congeniality.

[A]

But you had the. The era. The era of a Ms. Conge.

[B]

You want to say that again to your camera.

[A]

You had the air. Selena had the air of Miss Congeniality. So Dia seems to be regretting her decision to align herself with Ginger Mange because Ginger Mange has nothing to give anyone besides herself because she's been in the top. As we. Spoiler alert. Every episode. She's been in the top.

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Yeah.

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So Gingerbread has nothing to offer anyone.

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Ginger doesn't have to play.

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Yeah.

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Show up.

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She. She doesn't have to engage in the social game. That does not stop her from getting in the social game and trying to sneak her way around and be like, don't you want someone from your bracket represented? Well, you should send me as, like, girl. I wanted to be me. And then Daya will not let go of this Alyssa Hunter point. It is getting comical.

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It's silly. It's giving. Karen, do you.

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What would you do if she kept going, harping you about this point?

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I would pop off on her. I'm like, you don't get my point. You didn't get my point. I can't give you another point. What the you want me to do? Go talk to Cuckoo, Ask her to give her your point? I don't know. I would pop off.

[A]

Alyssa handled it pretty well. This was like, I didn't give your point. It's by my. Based on my own metric. The judges liked you. I didn't like you. Yeah.

[B]

I like how, like, in 10 toes down, she was. Ms. Alyssa was willing to fight back too, which I liked. It felt like there was some unresolved tension that's coming up.

[A]

Well, you are the bitch.

[B]

You are the bitch.

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Yeah, you are the bitch.

[B]

And she reiterated that you are still the bitch.

[A]

And Denali. Denali seems to have processed because, you know, she stormed off.

[B]

Wait, what?

[A]

You didn't hear about this?

[B]

Wait, who?

[A]

So Denali, when she lost the lipstick to Jimmy, she started off stage.

[B]

Oh, I heard RuPaul yelled at her. Is that true? Did you not hear that?

[A]

What happened?

[B]

I heard RuPaul, like, reprimanded her, like, for having a shitty attitude.

[A]

Like what? Like what?

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I don't know. That's what I heard on Twitter. That's what people were saying on Twitter, all over Twitter. I. I don't know anything.

[A]

Like, the shake square going off?

[B]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

Or like, H M going off?

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I think, like, like, like, Like, H

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and M was, like, the next level.

[B]

You know, I have heard about this. I did some independent research based on, you know, who I know, and I have not heard anything that I would Say verifies that. Okay. But I. I do believe she did storm. Well, if you notice too, like, I

[A]

don't know for sure golf anymore.

[B]

She went off on us on our reunion. Season 15 reunion. Because my season 15 camera off camera.

[A]

What were y' all doing?

[B]

Well, my season was crazy. It was Mistress Sugar and Spice, and everyone was talking on every podcast, going crazy everywhere.

[A]

So did you. Did you get reprimanded? Like, what?

[B]

I got reminded because it was right after my situation. No, we don't have to talk about it.

[A]

What was it?

[B]

But.

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Oh, eat my ass packet.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. It's in the past. We're all good.

[A]

You will be eating your ass since that day.

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And then people, I think, make an effort to try to eat my ass.

[A]

Has anyone quoted it while eating your ass?

[B]

One person did.

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While eating your ass?

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Yeah.

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Please tell me this.

[B]

Afterwards, they whispered in my ear, and

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I was like, I guess I did eat your Ross. Ross should have ate your ass. Well, listen, did that kill the mood for you?

[B]

It did. You know, did I tell you about the time that someone. I was someone. And it was like, bloody. Like, it got a little bloody. And they looked at me and they were like, selena S shitties. And I was like, it was blood not. But also, you're the one who's dirty

[A]

as shitties is crazy.

[B]

But him whispering that to me was wild. But it was a Seattle person. Those Seattle girls are nasty.

[A]

Not like the Portland girls. So it. Ginger Min says it makes me feel like when she's talking about how. How Alyssa was like, I don't think you want to lip sync. So it's weird to me that even though Ginger is, like, eating, slaying, serving, winning, and in the lead by a mile, she still is finding a way to be like, I feel bad and like, how do you think the girls with one point feel?

[B]

Yeah, she just needs to be quiet. She just needs to shut up and have fun and be grateful to be

[A]

all the girls have. A lot of the girls online are chiming in about Ginger Minj this season. Do you have any thoughts? Do you want to chime in?

[B]

I think Ginger's very talented. I don't know.

[A]

You want to say to your camera,

[B]

I think Ginger is very talented, but

[A]

I keep doing that. Sorry.

[B]

Go ahead. Wait. Why is that funny?

[A]

I just like saying to the camera, that's what's funny to me.

[B]

And I like Ginger. She's such a drag queen. I don't know about the rigor riggery or anything. Like, I. I don't know. I can't say I speak on that.

[A]

You've met her.

[B]

I have. I worked with her in P Town, actually, a year ago this week. Who do you think won that lip sync? Which one? With Denali? Yeah. Not Denali. Can you say it to your camera? Yeah. It was too much. It was doing the most. It felt like. It felt like a. It felt like a dance recital performance.

[A]

I'm just tickled at, like, gingerbread. Like, that makes me feel like she's like, girl, you are in the lead. Who cares how you feel? My God. Let's get to the points. Diabetic gives her point to Cynthia. Cynthia gives her points to Diabetic. Acid Betty gives her point to Cynthia. Alyssa gives her point to Cynthia.

[B]

The way that Cynthia's getting all the points is kind of sickening.

[A]

I literally teared up.

[B]

It's sickening.

[A]

I literally teared up watching Cynthia get her flowers because I did not think that the judges were going to give it to her. And she deserves it. She was really good. She has improved so much since her first season of Drag Race. She still has crunchy eras, but, I mean, Aras. But everyone does.

[B]

But this goes back to what I was talking about, like, having a social gaming. The girls aren't really playing the social game in.

[A]

And wait till we get to Untucked, because we were going to talk about the social game during Untucked. That's that you watch Untuck, right? Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I don't remember. You have to remind me, but remind you. But they're all giving an MVQ to the most valuable queen, which is Cynthia in that moment. So the girls aren't playing, you know, strategic game. They're just honestly giving out, like, who they think they did the best. Which. Which is great.

[A]

And Diet is hooked. Diet is burnt.

[B]

But Diet didn't give her point to Alyssa.

[A]

No, Diet gave her point to Cynthia.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she's mad that did the same thing.

[B]

Why is she mad?

[A]

Girl, I don't know.

[B]

She's cool, you know, she holds truth behind words. Do you hold truth behind words?

[A]

That's right. I. I hold truth behind.

[B]

I hold truth behind words.

[A]

The points mean a lot to me and Alyssa. Mr. Points mean a lot to everybody. And D is so mad at Alyssa, she's fuming. I want to be clear. I did not hear Alyssa say she was giving her a point to Diabetic.

[B]

I did not watch that episode, really. So I don't really know if that.

[A]

There's a chance. It might have got said off camera, but from what I watched, she said, I'm going to give it to the queens who's the most consistent. And she thinks that Cynthia is the most. It's based. It's her opinion.

[B]

Dia. I don't. I never met Dia, and I hear that she's a really good time and actually really cool in person. But. But she scares me. She's the kind of girl like, I'd be very afraid of.

[A]

She looks a praying. She looks like a praying mantis.

[B]

We have the same birthday, you and I. Betty and Monet exchange.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And Chapel Ron. Do and Monet have the same birthday?

[A]

Yeah. And Diabetti and Chapel Ron, apparently.

[B]

Chapel Ron. Wait, what are you. February 19th. It's Aquarius. Pisces is right. Where's your birthday? With Amanda Bynes.

[A]

Oh, that's fierce.

[B]

Frankie Munoz, I think from Malcolm in the Middle.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Word. Yeah, that's it.

[A]

You better work.

[B]

Those are cardi b. I maybe made that up.

[A]

Bel Khalis Almasar.

[B]

Am I?

[A]

You know, Taraji P. Henson and Ginger Minj have the same birthday.

[B]

Why do you know that?

[A]

Because their birthday is crazy. I'm not gonna say what it is.

[B]

Is it six? Six, six?

[A]

Just look it up. Just look up this birthday, June 6th, and you'll gag. Look it up right now on your phone. Don't say what it is, and then just. You'll see at home, look up this birthday and you'll be like, this is Gaggy. Taraji P. Henson and Ginger Mint the same birthday. And I think,

[B]

Where were they in 2003?

[A]

Look it up yourself. Let's keep moving.

[B]

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[A]

so the next day, Ginger revealed. Isn't that crazy?

[B]

And they're the only ones aboard that day.

[A]

I think Ludacris also has the same. I think Ludacris might have. Can you double check that, Jacob? I think Ludacris has the same birthday.

[B]

First you gotta get it, then I gotta admit it. No, that's the rhymes.

[A]

Racist. Wow, Racist.

[B]

Same birthday. Once upon a time in college park where they live life.

[A]

The one you need to do is. Is I wanna lick you from your head to your toes and I wanna move from the bed down to the down to the. To the flow. And I wanna. You make me so good.

[B]

I don't wanna leave.

[A]

But I gotta know what your fantasy you're October 8th.

[B]

Yeah. Arieti Arietty, the drag queen.

[A]

You know, you and Arietty twin. Twin. And you might be saying, are you older than already I met her.

[B]

Wait, what?

[A]

You're older than her, right?

[B]

I believe I am.

[A]

She's baby.

[B]

She's a child.

[A]

She's baby.

[B]

I met her once and I was scared of her too.

[A]

I met her once.

[B]

Drag queen scare me.

[A]

I met already once. And honestly I thought she was charming. She was very kind of like shy. It seems she's quite shy in the moment.

[B]

Maybe she was shy, but maybe it

[A]

came off like it was after all the madness though.

[B]

Oh, so she's been knocked down.

[A]

I think that sometimes people don't want to do things around me they think I'm going to talk about on my podcast.

[B]

Oh, that makes sense.

[A]

Which is not. I don't just go around talking about. I talk about some things.

[B]

Yeah. Off camera.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Behind your backs. But Ginger man's the next day, she's still mad that she. That the girls aren't. Are like, aren't having any sympathy for her. She's like, you guys don't have any sympathy for me.

[B]

And then does she just want screen time? Like, I don't know.

[A]

And then one of the girls apologized. She goes, it wasn't you. And then Aceveda was like, well, let's wake it up. Who is it? Let's go down the line. And then she was like, it was Alyssa.

[B]

Oh, every.

[A]

Alyssa is just every direction this bitch looks, someone's coming for her decisions.

[B]

Poor girl. And she's fine.

[A]

And she's so sweet.

[B]

She's so sweet, this woman.

[A]

Do you think Alyssa claimed to give her point to diabetic? I mean, give her point to diabetic.

[B]

I can see a world where maybe Daya was trying to strategize with her on the side. And maybe Alyssa did not understand what she was doing. You know what I mean? Alyssa gives a little. She's a little slow.

[A]

So like, I think Alyssa knows she's doing. Sorry, I finished say, I'm sorry.

[B]

No, I just don't. I don't think maybe she, dia was probably trying to do something and she didn't clock what she was trying to do.

[A]

I think that she clocked what she trying to do. And she was giving her a very open ended answer without saying, I'm not giving you ASA bet was like, we're not giving you our points. As straight up. Like, I speak for the group. We're not giving you our points.

[B]

That's right. That's right.

[A]

And. And I think Alyssa was kind of be like, I'm going to give my opponent who, who I think is the most consistent. I don't want to say, which is crazy because if, if Diabet listen to what Acid Betty said. She said, we're not giving you our points. I speak for the group. You don't need to go around, interview people. I already told you, no one's giving you a point. And I speak for the fucking group, so get away from your ass. Go ask your friend Ginger and she'll give you a point because we're not doing it.

[B]

She got points to give.

[A]

Acid Betty spoke. She spoke. She spoke the truth.

[B]

I love Acid Betty.

[A]

You have no idea. I love her so much. So RuPaul comes in and announces that there's going to be an improv challenge where they are playing Looking for Love. How do you feel about this challenge?

[B]

I feel. Remember when Lion King came out and the live action Lion King and it felt nasty inside my heart.

[A]

Oh yeah. It was very upsetting.

[B]

That's what it's giving me. It feels a little. What is it called? Something of the bizarre or like.

[A]

No, it's Called the. No, don't say it. Don't say it. I want to say it. I want to see if I can remember it. It's called when something looks real but it doesn't look real and it's not human. It's called give me one word. Or when. What's it start with? Jacob.

[B]

You.

[A]

No. Uncanny Valley.

[B]

Uncanny valley.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Dog. Because they weren't like. Yeah, it was giving uncanny. But some of them had prosthetics. It was giving Whoville. I was a little like. I felt uncomfortable. It felt like pup kink, furry kink, dragon. Am I into pups? Yeah, I think they're cute. But I don't need to understand. But I don't understand.

[A]

But would you do some Selena ass shitties with a puppy?

[B]

I don't like?

[A]

I'm just. You can say.

[B]

No, I don't like. I. I would do stuff with them. Honestly. I think what's cute is when they woof.

[A]

I think you like pups. How about a whimper?

[B]

I like Zane. Can I say this? I don't know who the hell he is, but he is so cute.

[A]

The one from Fire Island?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, he played the dog.

[B]

I never been to Fire Island.

[A]

No, he's from the movie Fire Island.

[B]

Oh. Oh, is he?

[A]

That's what they said in the show. He's from the movie Joel K. Booster

[B]

and I saw it, but I don't remember him. He's like. He's the hot friend who has sex with Matt Rogers and then leaks Matt Rogers nudes. Oh, he's a. Matt Rogers is in that movie.

[A]

Yeah, he's the villain. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, I need to rewatch. I think so. I mean he's that. Yeah. Yeah. Matt Rogers is really cute. He was actually just out.com was like one of the most eligible bachelors in the Gay boys. Matt Rogers. I thought he was dating Bowen Yang.

[A]

Yeah. No, they're not dating.

[B]

They're not a relationship.

[A]

Not to my knowledge.

[B]

I thought they were together the whole time.

[A]

Not to my knowledge.

[B]

Interesting. But I think Zane's hot. He has, you know. Okay. You know what gets me are like giant art.

[A]

Are you trying to get into Matt Rogers?

[B]

I'd be willing.

[A]

Do you wanna.

[B]

Hi, Matt. My name is Selena Titties. I don't do pop play, but if you do, I got a bone for you.

[A]

There it is. There it is.

[B]

And Zayn, he's so cute.

[A]

You.

[B]

I like big arms. I think is what it is.

[A]

Him and his friend. That's crazy.

[B]

Are they friends?

[A]

I don't know. They're the same movie.

[B]

They're just both white gays.

[A]

They're the same movie.

[B]

They're both white gays. I've never been to Fire Island.

[A]

You're not missing anything.

[B]

I'm scared.

[A]

You're missing nothing.

[B]

I've been to P town.

[A]

You like it?

[B]

I loved it. That's where I met Ginger. Ginger came to my show and I felt like. She felt like.

[A]

She felt what?

[B]

I asked her for notes afterwards, and she's like, I'll give you notes.

[A]

She left you on red too. Yeah. Am I the only queen who didn't leave you on red?

[B]

You know what? You don't text back. But you do call.

[A]

I do call, but if you ask me for help, I help you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You call me. You help with your one woman show.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you left me on red. Let's get into the challenge. Goes around, comes around.

[B]

Anyway, how do you feel about this challenge?

[A]

Well, I think it was interesting that they assigned the roles to them instead of letting them fight over the role.

[B]

I'm curious if. If the girls had to pick their dog and send it to production. Be like, I want to do a Chihuahua or I want to do this. And then production approved it, and then they created a narrative based off the dog they chose. Maybe they came with these costumes, I would assume.

[A]

Yeah, I'm assuming they came with these costumes because they're. They're. They all seem quite specific.

[B]

But why would cuckoo come with this, like, sweater and skirt?

[A]

Well, because it's Chihuahua colored.

[B]

Oh, I guess so.

[A]

Although Chihuahuas are Mexican dogs.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Cuckoo's not Mexican. She Puerto Rican. Oh.

[B]

I mean, Latino. It's all the same.

[A]

I did not say that that was.

[B]

I'm Latino and I said it.

[A]

I can say that my mom is Latino and my dad and my cousin, so. Okay, so let's go. Before we get to that, Alyssa and Ginger have to work together, and they had a tense morning because Ginger Minj called her out.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And then Betty is like, I'm. I'm a kink fetish queen. I'm a fetish queen.

[B]

Oh, is this news or we've known this about her.

[A]

I didn't know this, but it scans for Betty, baby.

[B]

I've seen her at the Glory Hole.

[A]

Are you kinky?

[B]

I just talked about this on my close friends Today, yesterday, last night. I said, oh, I'm not any close friends. This you are. You don't watch my story. You don't watch my story.

[A]

I don't think I'm in your close friends.

[B]

You are one Close friends. I'll show you right now. I'll prove it.

[A]

Wait, is this the way. Is your close friend story still up?

[B]

No, I took it down.

[A]

Oh, was it. Did it get too spicy?

[B]

Well, there's some people who are in my close friends who do watch my stories, and I'm like, they don't need to see this conversation.

[A]

Am I? Oh, I. I'm. No, I'm not in your close friends, girl. Unless you. Unless you have no close friends up right now.

[B]

Here, let me post to close friends right now.

[A]

Are you my close friends?

[B]

I don't think so.

[A]

Well, I keep you. I'm close friends. They don't give me compliments. All I post is gym selfies. And if you don't compliment once, I give you three chances. If you don't compliment, you get kicked out.

[B]

I don't think you ever put me there. Maybe I would compliment you. I compliment you all the time.

[A]

Okay, I'll add you to my close friends. I post them very rarely. It's just when I go to the gym, which has not been very much lately. I need to get my ass back in the gym.

[B]

You are in there.

[A]

I just saw the dot. You just added it?

[B]

Tdq. No, no, no.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

How do you say that? Tdq.

[A]

Tdq. TD tdq. S. Tdq it's just tdq. Like the drag queen.

[B]

Is that your last name?

[A]

Name. It's. It's my chosen last name. My last name is Caldwell.

[B]

Yes, I knew that.

[A]

Which is what I go by is

[B]

my first name stdq.

[A]

But I don't like my first name.

[B]

I'm gonna start calling you stdq.

[A]

You can call me that. It works for me. So. So during the challenge, I think, okay, overall, what do you think of this? Did you like this challenge again?

[B]

It did give uncanny valley, so I was a little creeped out, but at the same time, yes, because I think it's super fun. You get to be a dog. Like, this is so fun. And then dogs have such personalities. Like, depending on which dog you are. What dog would you be if you got to do this?

[A]

I'd probably be a Doberman. I feel like I kind of look like a Doberman.

[B]

I didn't say or I would.

[A]

I mean, everyone is like a dog. What dog would you be?

[B]

I'd want to be a pit bull.

[A]

I don't think you like a pit bull.

[B]

French football.

[A]

You look like.

[B]

What do I look like?

[A]

Show me a beagle. I think you. I think you like a beagle.

[B]

Is Snoopy.

[A]

Is Snoopy A beagle?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Who are the ones with big eyes?

[B]

I have big eyes.

[A]

No, not a beagle. I can't figure out what kind of dog you are, but. But you could be a beagle along.

[B]

Ew. No, no, you're thinking of this one.

[A]

No, that's not that one.

[B]

That's that droopy dog.

[A]

No, you're like the dog that kind of look nervous. They have big eyes, and they kind of like that one. Chihuahua, maybe. Maybe like a. Maybe like a. Some sort of a pug boxer mix.

[B]

That's so ugly.

[A]

No, it's cute. Crazy.

[B]

That looks like a crackhead.

[A]

What dog is that?

[B]

This is a pug. Wait, that one does kind of look like me, actually.

[A]

Yeah, maybe you're a. Can you. Maybe a pug boxer mix.

[B]

I can see that. Yeah, that's kind of cute.

[A]

Yeah, I see that for you. Do you see me as a Doberman?

[B]

I don't know what a Doberman is.

[A]

A. A Doberman looks like a skinny Rottweiler.

[B]

Skinny. Wait, now that I'm on your close

[A]

friend, no one's got. No one's going to defend me. No. No one defend me. That's crazy. It was. It was that if. If the. If the girdle fits, if the collar fits, literally. I like the dog whistle bit that RuPaul does. I think it's quite funny. So good.

[B]

It's so good.

[A]

I will say I didn't actually laugh out loud during this challenge, but there are moments I acknowledge that's funny.

[B]

Ginger, I thought was fantastic.

[A]

She was funny, but, I mean, I would say Ginger was the funniest one. I just never actually laughed out loud.

[B]

I will say, too, it helped that Ginger and Alyssa had props because the first two girls, they were just sitting on a bench, and then the other two girls got to be in the hot tub. There was so much more for them to play with, so I think it was harder for the first two girls.

[A]

I did actually laugh once. I laughed when Alyssa just went in dildos.

[B]

I did not laugh at that.

[A]

That. It was so awkward to me. Say, what toys do you like? She was like, dildos.

[B]

You're laughing because it's awkward, not because she's funny.

[A]

I was laughing because it was awkward. Yeah, Dildos. And she said, like, three times. Dildos. Dildos. You know, dildos is like, girl, that's a little on the nose, on the snout.

[B]

So, you know I'm very sexual, right? Like, and that's always been my conversation on podcasts. I'm always talking about sex. Sex. So I've been trying to not rebrand, but I'm. I'm growing up a little bit, and I think with my body changing, I'm like, you know, I don't have to just give it away to anybody anymore, which feels nice. So, like, it's not that I'm rebranding, but it's like, I'm trying not to be so, like, on the nose, like, dick, dick, dick. Right. And I'm finding, like, with comedy, I've been doing, like, a lot of, like, comedy stand up stuff and, like, going for the blue joke is really easy, and it's the easy way out. So, like, being more creative with what you're talking about and, like, innuendos with sex stuff, I think is really the trick on Drag Race. Like, not just being, like, dildos or, like, give me your dog dick. You know what I mean?

[A]

Dildos, dildos, dildos.

[B]

Do you own a dildo?

[A]

No, I don't own a dildo.

[B]

Do you know about creature?

[A]

Yeah, I know. I know what a creature is, for sure. Yeah, easy. Let's talk about these looks. Let's talk about these.

[B]

Sorry, I have it organized by group.

[A]

I don't know. We'll go by group. So first we have Acid Betty and Cynthia Lee Fontaine. I think Cynthia's look is. I see she's a nun and she's a Chihuahua. She's a Catholic Chihuahua who's in the sisterhood. Like, this is so clear. I think she looks cute. This is a good look. It's modest, but it's. But it looks good.

[B]

I think it's funny. I. I like the characterization of this. Like, to think of a nun who's a virgin going on a dating show is perfect. I think that's really good.

[A]

I will say something, Alyssa, and see the above did that. I'm kind of over this bit. And as a. As a Hispanic person, you tell me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Having a long name but then saying, but for sure, call me this.

[B]

I'm like, we're over that.

[A]

I just think it's coming from a mile away. Like, my name is Lupita Manuela Esparita. Esperanza Manuela Gonzalez.

[B]

I did that joke in 2012 when I first started doing drag and I thought I was so clever. And then everyone's done it ever since on Drag Race.

[A]

I'm just over it. I don't.

[B]

I.

[A]

It's kind of like. I know. We know. We get it.

[B]

Yeah, we got it.

[A]

That being said, I really like Acid Betty's look. It looks really good. She looks so Hot. I love this look, and I like that she kept doing the commands in that butch voice.

[B]

I loved it. I thought that was very smart. I think acid could have won this challenge along with Ginger. I agree. Right. She was very. It was very good.

[A]

And it sounded like the judges agreed too, but we're just like, nah.

[B]

But nah, Right?

[A]

They're like acid Betty. You were so funny in the challenge. Your look was so good on the Runway. Your look in the challenge was amazing. I normally don't like Mary sweat in looks, but honestly, you're killing it anyway. No, thanks.

[B]

Yeah, Just not.

[A]

Just kind of not into you.

[B]

I wasn't crazy about her Runway, but we'll talk about that. But, yeah, I thought this. I thought she was the best, though. Her and Ginger were the best ones in this challenge.

[A]

I will say Cynthia did not.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I wrote down. Cynthia was like, no, actually, no. She said, no, actually, I wasn't.

[B]

It was a chalupa. I was like, no, girl, just say yes.

[A]

Yeah. Literally, just. Just say yeah. That was me. Let's go to the next two. So now we have Ginger Min and Alyssa Hunter. Ginger's look is fantastic.

[B]

He looks so funny. Look.

[A]

I know. She looks like a Saint Bernard.

[B]

I've seen this woman before.

[A]

Yeah, I liked her characterization. It was really good. Ginger 8, she did a really good job.

[B]

You know, honestly, I liked Alyssa's look too. I think that was really fun. I just don't think she is funny.

[A]

Yeah, she's not funny. I don't think she thinks she's funny either.

[B]

No, she knows it. Yeah.

[A]

The dog's hanging off the nipples is pretty great. Visually, it's quite stunning.

[B]

It's cute.

[A]

Her look is one of my favorite. She. She kind of looks like she's in Cats. She looks a little bit like McCabe.

[B]

Oh, I see that. Yeah, 1,000%.

[A]

That's why I think that's what Ginger was like. Are you a rat? Is that a rat?

[B]

She does look like a sewer rat.

[A]

Ginger had some great one liners. The 12 step. The 12 step thing.

[B]

Oh, so good again. Her playing with the meatball the whole time and dipping it in the thing and her, like, doing dog things. Like, a lot of the girls were. Had a missed opportunity with not doing dog things.

[A]

I love that she's wearing this curly hair as if they're floppy ears.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

She had a lot of great moments in this. In this challenge. A lot of really great.

[B]

So for everyone's like, it's rigged. It's rigged. It's like, no. Well, like, she is doing well. I mean, at least in this challenge. I thought her. I will say her outfit that she sewed the first episode was not good. No, that was crazy.

[A]

It was not. Let's go to the next group. So now we have Zane.

[B]

Looks so cute. Oh, my God. I want to pet him.

[A]

What? What parts of Zane do you like the most?

[B]

I like this part and this part and then this part.

[A]

Would you like. Would you like. Would you want to hold his arms? Like, lick them or.

[B]

I want him to hold me.

[A]

You want to hold you? Yeah, hold you tight. I think we're ready to get a picture of Zayn Zane Phillips.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Wait.

[B]

He's so pretty.

[A]

No, do the one of him. Do the one up there. Jacob. There's one of him with his titties out. Not that one down. It's like. It's like a giant one. His titties out? Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my goodness. Wait, he's thick. I'm a big boy.

[A]

Do you want to talk to Zayn in the camera?

[B]

Hi, Zayn. It's me again.

[A]

So you now hit on Zayn. You've hit on Matt Rogers. Matt Rogers.

[B]

Zane. Okay, can we do Gus Kenworthy while we're at it?

[A]

It's a little random, but, yeah.

[B]

I love a muscle white boy. It's my weakness. Oh, my God.

[A]

Mr. Phillips, the DMs are open.

[B]

No, he's not gonna talk to me. I'm a drag queen.

[A]

He just talked to six drag. He won't like me. I'm a drag queen.

[B]

You think he went home with these bitches? Apparently, Alyssa kissed him, but they cut it out.

[A]

Oh, doing the spaghetti thing?

[B]

Yeah, they had. She has, like, pink lipstick all over his chin.

[A]

So let's go on to these looks. I think diabetes look is amazing. I will say this, guys. I keep saying this. If you're. If it's supposed to look like your skin, can you please put the seam at the back of your leg? A seam on the side? I don't know why it bothers me so much. I think this is my drag faux pas. A seam on the side of the leg really just irks my nerves.

[B]

What's a faux pas? Is that a.

[A]

A faux pas? A bad thing? Like. Like, I don't like it. Other than that.

[B]

You said fur paw.

[A]

That is actually pretty funny. I think diabetes look is amazing. I. The uncanny valley was Denali. It's her.

[B]

Yeah, it's Denali.

[A]

She's the one prosthetic. She looks disturbing.

[B]

It's Whoville. I was Very scared. And then also her characterization was like, like stressing me out too.

[A]

Her character. I think that she should have been a therapist. It would have been trauma dubs during her therapy sessions. Like, I think what it would have been like if she. If he says that she could be. She says something like, I want, you know that I hear you and I understand you. Your feelings are valid. I mean, I am with you. Something like that too. Yeah. When I was. When I was in. Was dating this one guy one time, he actually did me really dirty and he left me with a whole litter and I had. I had to go get it. An abarction.

[B]

Well, not in this America.

[A]

I made an abortion and I live in Alabama, so it was really hard. I had to get it in the first week.

[B]

She could have came up with that.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know.

[B]

Honestly. Denali is very smart, though. Like, her angle was weird, but she had an angle at least.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, they were kind of given their characterizations. But I do think the issue was when you're needy, it should come as a surprise. She was just nervous. And I think that she should have been. She should have played a therapist who trauma dumps on her client.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And kind of like psychoanalyzing everyone and being like, this stems from your childhood trauma.

[B]

Oh, that's. I think that's more of the angle. She's like, let me tell you about the time I was.

[A]

Yeah, listen, whatever her character's name was, this is your trauma as a puppy. I can. I can see it in your eyes. And I think that you speak to your inner puppy and tell her that you love her and that she's okay. Because, you know, when I was a puppy also, did you notice that what's his name, Zayn, called Ginger by her name? No, that sent me. He was like, ginger.

[B]

I didn't clock that.

[A]

I said, girl, they have names. So Ginger, I wrote. I was like, did he say Ginger? Hey, Ginger. I was like, girl, see the scene, Mary.

[B]

She just called her winner.

[A]

Hey, winner.

[B]

Honestly, I don't think Diabet did good in this challenge at all.

[A]

Her look is great, though.

[B]

Her look looks great. But the challenge is to do an improv comedy scene. I don't think she did great.

[A]

She wasn't terrible. She wasn't. She wasn't the worst, but she was not. She was in the bottom three, not the top three.

[B]

But didn't she win? Yeah, she did. That's what I'm saying. I don't think it was win worthy. And her. What was her paper look, I don't think that was win worthy either.

[A]

We're gonna get there. We'll get there. We'll get there. Rigor, Morris girl. So when they get. They do the makeup the next day, and Ginger is still acting like she thinks she's not gonna make it into the merge. Like, you're still being like, well, I don. Honestly, I gotta be honest. I would snap if I was. If I was one of the bottom queens.

[B]

Shut the up. You're winning. You're going through.

[A]

No, literally, if I would have been hearing that three, six days in a row. This is three. This is three episodes six days in a row. And the last day, you're still giving this about. We don't know what happened. Ginger, I need you to shut the up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do your makeup. You're going to the next.

[B]

And at that point, she has enough points. She's going through no matter what.

[A]

At this point, she's gonna beat everybody. Girl, do your. Even if you don't make it in this round, even if you don't win this episode, you're still going to next round.

[B]

I wonder what her thought process is. This, like, she's trying to be humble because she's like, I don't know if I'll get the win, so let me just be humble.

[A]

It's not charming. It's really upsetting. It is.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But she might think it's charming is what I'm saying.

[A]

Or does she really believe. Or does she really believe it? She did earlier mention that she's insecure.

[B]

Is it her way trying to be, like, sisterly with the girls? Like, oh, you know, like, oh, I'm not gonna get it. Like, I'm scared, too. I don't. I'm trying to figure out why she would want to use that angle.

[A]

Why would you even say that out loud?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Anyway.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Daya is not done telling Alyssa how she feels.

[B]

We're still on this.

[A]

Girl.

[B]

Let it go. Elsa frozen baby. Let it go.

[A]

Let it go. Become one with the wind and sky, baby.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And this year has it to get an untucked. She will not let it go.

[B]

It's only one point.

[A]

And also, girl, the point is gone. It's not coming back.

[B]

Gone with the win.

[A]

And you know what you're not doing? Building a case to get her to give you the next one.

[B]

Not working, girl. She's not gonna give you the point. The last one.

[A]

At this point, anyway. This point, I don't think that diabetes winning Alyssa over at all. And then daya is telling Cynthia. Daya's going to. Cynthia being like. And it's not because I say you're not worth. You don't deserve it. It kind of is.

[B]

Damn. It's literally what she's saying.

[A]

It kind of is that. Let's get into these runaways.

[B]

All right, let's go.

[A]

Up first we have Alyssa Hunter. The. The theme is paper. All paper. Papier, papier mache.

[B]

Paper.

[A]

You ever wanted paper looks, you know,

[B]

for season 11 was the first season I've ever auditioned for. Then the audition tape, you had to make a look out of 99 cent store materials. And I made everything out of paper for that. It looked crazy.

[A]

You have a picture of it.

[B]

It looked great.

[A]

It's here. They're looking at it here. You still have it.

[B]

I don't own it anymore. I recycled it.

[A]

No, you have a look.

[B]

But I have it.

[A]

Yeah, here it is. You're all looking at the look. There it is.

[B]

And that's why I didn't get cast. And that's what I used to brand myself as. Stitties. STDs. She's going viral. Catch it. You can't get rid of her.

[A]

But the look you did. But the looks you did for your other tape were so good. I obviously did a paper look. Mine did not. I ended in the bottom when I did my paper look.

[B]

You did. What'd you lip sync? What'd you lip sync?

[A]

We lip synced to Mighty Real by Sylvester.

[B]

Oh, that's a good.

[A]

I still stand by that look was a good look.

[B]

Can I see it again?

[A]

I still stand by the look being a great look.

[B]

Yeah, it's not that it's not a good look. It's just.

[A]

I don't want to hear you something about embracing no goddamn materials. Jake.

[B]

No, no. Did you just glue paper to a corset? Good look. But Naomi, Chichi and Kim's look were fantastic. Was Acid Betty on this one, too? Was Acid Betty the Moneyball paper?

[A]

I think my look was great.

[B]

She was gone. She was gone. Oh, she's gone by then.

[A]

I was in the bottom of Derek Berry.

[B]

Oh, they. Yeah, of course you are.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Listen, if you want to fight with some. If you want to lip sync against someone, you fight with them in the work room.

[A]

Literally. What do you think about this look?

[B]

Honestly, I think it's the most. I think it's really cool. This is like a Puerto Rican culture thing. I think they make.

[A]

They make masks out of paper.

[B]

Honestly, she looks like a Pokemon. Like a rhino. Pokemon. Of some sort.

[A]

It looks like that blow up outfit that Lady Gaga wore. The inflatable. Were you ever a little monster?

[B]

Not really. I love her, but I'm not like Lux nor London crazy about her.

[A]

That was so uncalled for. That was so uncalled for. There was no reason to drag Lux nor London into this. That was. Do you have beef with her?

[B]

No, I love my sister Lux.

[A]

Who you trying to convince? Me or yourself?

[B]

Listen, did you have.

[A]

Did you have fight with her on your season?

[B]

I don't think we had a. A public fight.

[A]

There was a private fight.

[B]

I don't think there was a public fight either. But there was some snarkiness. But I will say I live to who? I live for Lux. But who?

[A]

To who? Who was snarky? To who?

[B]

I think she was snarky with me, but unconsciously, like, she didn't realize that she was being. But she was just being Lux. But here's the thing. I live for Lux. Cause she did not say my name. That I should go home when who should go home and why? Remember she had that big dissertation?

[A]

What did she say again?

[B]

She said loosey. She went down. She complimented every single girl. And she was like, this is what they bring to the competition. And then she was like. And Lucy Leduc is generic. Yeah, but she complimented me. I was like, thanks, Lux. And it felt very.

[A]

Did you say.

[B]

I said Lucy, who went home that episode? I did.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

But Anitra said my nature. Didn't say my name at first. And then RuPaul made her say, forgotten your season. I know everyone. She's so sickening.

[A]

Did she quit drag?

[B]

No, she's booked everywhere. I'm doing a gig with her next week in D.C. come see me in D.C. at pictures bar with Anitra. We'll be together. The Free Willy. Whoosh. We'll recreate it.

[A]

Gang, gang, gang, gang.

[B]

Alyssa Edward, are you gonna be the backbone? Am I gonna do what?

[A]

The back bed.

[B]

Are you gonna be Marcia? Marsha? Yeah, I could be Marsha. I could be white for a day.

[A]

You said you're gonna do the free will of the wood.

[B]

I can do a back bend. Can you do it back then?

[A]

Of course I can do it.

[B]

Show me right now.

[A]

Only if you do it, too.

[B]

Patreon exclusive. Let's go.

[A]

What are you saying? The back, man. Like, I have to, like, lean over. Can I lay on my back and then bend up? I can start from my back, but I can't.

[B]

What did Marcia do? Can we make it a patreon? Exclusive. We don't have to reset the cameras.

[A]

I can do it from the ground. I cannot put my hand over my head, but I can. I can arch myself.

[B]

Can. Then can you walk?

[A]

Maybe. We'll see. We'll find.

[B]

And then flip your legs over. I've done that trick before, but flip myself over.

[A]

Will you help me?

[B]

Yeah. Oh, 1,000%. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

We'll find out.

[B]

Yeah. I got a stretch.

[A]

All right, so let's go to our next look. So now we have ginger mange. I love this look.

[B]

I like it, too. Like, people were saying that. Didn't Michelle call this one Mary Antoinette? But this is Elizabethan Shakespeare, which is very ginger, very theater. Like, I. I love it. I like Shakespeare too.

[A]

Yes. Mary is very Queen Elizabeth. When the one who's battling with Mary Queen of Scots.

[B]

No. I don't know history like that.

[A]

Anyway, one of the Queen Elizabeths was, like, cousins with Mary Queen of Scots, and she had her killed.

[B]

What I will say is, like, she's

[A]

the one who had Mary Queen of Scots beheaded.

[B]

Oh, yes. Okay. So, like, that.

[A]

She. Her hairline was back here because she was all scarred up from her from some disease.

[B]

Oh, I know it's not very ginger, but I would have loved to see, like, a 6 recreation of this. Right? Like, how 6 is more pop star now and, like, cool and hot and sexy. I think, like, if she would have done a cooler. But that's not very ginger. This is very ginger.

[A]

I prefer this one. I love the detail of typing out the words and having this dress made of paper. This looks like.

[B]

Do you think she's lying about that?

[A]

I love the. The. I love this.

[B]

Because here's the thing, when you're on Drag Race, they ask you what are some details you would like the judges to know? And I remember Mistress would be like, you just lie to them. Tell them it's all Swarovski. Tell them it's hand. Beat it. Tell them it's this Mistress. Mistress.

[A]

Mistress.

[B]

Yeah. She's like, you just lie, bitch. And the more. The more you tell them what the process was.

[A]

Like, why would you need to type it out if it's just on the Internet already? Because I imagine.

[B]

Could you imagine she's on a typewriter?

[A]

I imagine she's looking at it and typing it. I would just copy it and paste it.

[B]

Yeah, that's why. That's why I feel like she's lying. Like, I don't think she actually, like, typed each hand letter out. Do you like Shakespeare?

[A]

Yeah, he's cool.

[B]

I Love Shakespeare. I don't like. I don't like history plays, but I like Midsummer Night's Dream. I love Othello.

[A]

Well, to be fair, it wasn't history when they were. When they were doing it. Except Julius Caesar was history when they did it.

[B]

Wait, that's such a great point.

[A]

But Julius Caesar was history when they did that one, though.

[B]

Work herstory. I really like Othello.

[A]

Othello's your favorite?

[B]

Midsummer Night's Dream is my favorite, but Othello's close.

[A]

Second Midsummer Dream is the most produced play in the world.

[B]

Is it really? I saw the most amazing production in the Oregon Shakespeare Festival when I was 17 years old.

[A]

I was in Midsummer Night's Dream.

[B]

Who'd you play, the ass?

[A]

Yeah, I was bottom. His name is Bottom the Weaver. Yeah, I played bottom the Weaver. And my favorite player is the. The Scottish play.

[B]

Oh, yes. That's my top three. 1,000%.

[A]

So this is. This look is fantastic. Who's the one who does the Shakespeare plasma? Have you seen this?

[B]

I think I have.

[A]

It's. It's. It's.

[B]

It's good. It's good. It's good. I like it.

[A]

Plasma is a really fucking good.

[B]

She's just annoying. She's just annoying.

[A]

She's very annoying as an annoying.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

She's. She can sing, she can dance.

[B]

She's very talented.

[A]

She's a good actor. I think her looks are good. She's a great queen. She needs to be on fucking All Stars.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

But I feel like they'll give her the Jan.

[A]

I think when Plaz goes on All Stars, she's gonna be top three.

[B]

You think so?

[A]

I really do. I genuinely do.

[B]

She's really good in confessionals, too. I don't think she got enough, like, hype on her season.

[A]

Yeah, I. I was going up for everyone. They were like, it's because you want to twinks. And I was like, I just think she's a good queen.

[B]

Two things can be true at once.

[A]

I do not want to plasma.

[B]

Jacob would know best.

[A]

I don't want to plasma Liar. But I do think she's a very good.

[B]

Are you attracted to talent?

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, there's. There's some people who are. They're so talented that I want to hook up with them just because they're so talented.

[A]

There are lots of queens.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

Who?

[B]

No.

[A]

Zane Phillips, Matt Rogers. There are tons of queens on Drag Race that I would have sex with, but I don't go up for them.

[B]

Matt Rogers is very talented. I didn't know he could sing like that. That. That to me is sexy than just him being hot. You know what I mean?

[A]

But who.

[B]

What did you just say?

[A]

There are lots of queens in Drag Race. That I would sleep with. That I do not go up for.

[B]

That you would sleep with. That you do not go for. Oh, I mean, who do you want to sleep with? I don't want to sleep with drag queens.

[A]

I would sleep.

[B]

I mean, the last episode, we talked

[A]

about a lot of these Drag Race

[B]

episode is all about who they would hook up with.

[A]

A lot of these drag queen. If you don't look at them as drag, they're just hot guys. I mean, you're doing the thing you accuse Zayn of. He wouldn't talk to me. I'm a drag queen, bitch. It's you.

[B]

I don't want to hook up with a drag queen. You're the one who want to hook up with me.

[A]

It's you. I hate the drama you are the drama. That was you projecting onto Zane Phillips your own biases.

[B]

I don't want to sleep with the drag queen.

[A]

There's only one career that I wouldn't want to hook up with. One career.

[B]

Let me guess. Garbage man.

[A]

Copy.

[B]

Oh, why I a cop before? It's scary.

[A]

No. I mean, no. Also notice agents aren't cops, though.

[B]

They're just like a terrorist group.

[A]

Well, yeah. I mean, also not a nice agent, but like, cops are like, I hooked

[B]

up with a cop and he. It was very scary. He, like, almost r word me.

[A]

I have a cousin who's a cop, and I'm always like, girl, why?

[B]

My cousins are cops and they're like, stupid.

[A]

I was like, why? Why are you doing this?

[B]

It's dumb.

[A]

Anyway.

[B]

It's weird.

[A]

On to the next girl. Looks great. We have Denali. I feel like this look is great, but I kind of wish that. I don't know what I wish. It.

[B]

It, you know, it is a cool look, but I don't know why. There's something about Denali that's always just misses for me. I love her. I love her. She's always been so sweet with me, and I love running into her and she's so talented, but there's something about

[A]

her that it's like, make you want to her? What does her talent make you want to her?

[B]

No.

[A]

So not that talented?

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Not as talented as Matt Ross.

[B]

I also have to. I. No, I. I'm saying you said talent

[A]

makes you want to people, but you don't want to know. So she's not that talented.

[B]

I don't want to her. She's a drag queen.

[A]

You are so problematic.

[B]

Just kidding.

[A]

You are so problematic. You're a problematic. You know what it is? I like the dress. I like the backpack. I like them separately.

[B]

The. The back backpack.

[A]

I wish that the fox's red was bleeding onto the garment.

[B]

Kind of hot. Yeah. Cuz you know what this reminded me of was Hunger Games. The flaming dress thing. I don't know why. Just looking at it, I was like, oh, it's flames. But it's not flames.

[A]

It is kind. I think it's a mix between a fox and a phoenix.

[B]

Phoenix? Why Phoenix? Okay.

[A]

I think it's the. The mythical creature. It's this Mexican creature.

[B]

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I forgot about that because she also has a thing on her leg that looks like flames. No, like there's red in her foot. You see that? So that's Rosa.

[A]

She has rosacea on her feet.

[B]

Leave Rosie out of this. I don't know.

[A]

Okay. Can I ask you a question? Can you queue in on that? You probably don't remember episode one. The me and the fans and. And Neymar fighting. Was Denali wearing pads on episode one? Jake, we bring up a picture. Was Denali wearing pads in episode one?

[B]

In the cardboard Look.

[A]

In the cardboard look. I'm gonna show you the picture of it. You're gonna tell me if you think

[B]

I'm saying that you could see the color of the pads through the.

[A]

RuPaul was saying that. RuPaul and Michelle were saying it.

[B]

Oh, no, sorry, Wrong bracket.

[A]

And I was saying that she was wearing pads.

[B]

Well, she hasn't been wearing pads this

[A]

whole season, but I think she wore pads on this one episode.

[B]

This one is this one we're talking about. Yeah, she's wearing pads.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Yeah, you can see. You could see the leg. The leg slice.

[A]

And everyone kept being like, no, she just has muscular legs. I'm like, she does have muscular legs, baby. She's wearing pads.

[B]

I have muscular. Oh, my God. So I have new ass. I've recently gotten new ass.

[A]

And when does it show up? Is it. You ordered in the mail?

[B]

No, I was getting custom made and. And you know how like hip pads have the hip part, right? So make this. I've been working out my legs and I never worked legs before, but I have been so my quads have been getting crazy big. So we're kind of keep having to shave down this thing. And I hardly. I'm like a sliver. Like this Big. Because this is so big. I don't need this.

[A]

Monet only has a. Well, she. Well, she still wears pad. Like a little piece, a little pump of her hip. Where the. Where the hip.

[B]

That's kind of where I'm headed towards. But I'm not. I have.

[A]

I wear hip to knee.

[B]

I have hairy legs, and I like my hairy legs. So I'm never gonna be, like, a Voss girl who, like, shaves their legs.

[A]

I do not grow leg hair.

[B]

I heard this about you, and I'm very jealous.

[A]

You like leg hair, though.

[B]

But I like it. But it's so much easier. Wearing tights is the worst part for me.

[A]

For dragon artwork. Ties, anyway. But, yeah, she was wearing pads anyway. Also, the. The fans were mad at me because I insinuated that Beyonce might wear pads. Like, girl, these pop stars are wearing.

[B]

Beyonce does not wear pads. But she does wear. Did you. Oh, did you hear about the Capezio Trout?

[A]

The pop stars were. Yes, yes, I was there for it. I lived in New York City at the time.

[B]

Yeah, I heard it from you, actually.

[A]

Also, y', all. I'm sorry, it's not a dig, but your favorite pop stars are wearing pads.

[B]

They're all drag queens.

[A]

There's also not their hair. They're also wearing makeup. They're also wearing fake nails.

[B]

They're using the designers we use, and then they're not available for us.

[A]

So. So, guys, don't get mad at me when I tell you that your favorite pop star is not. Not naturally built that way. And that's not. That's not all their hair on their head.

[B]

Listen, it's not a dig. We do everything Beyonce and Cardi B. Does. Just. We do it by ourselves, and they can afford it.

[A]

They do everything we do. Yeah. Let's go to our next look. We have Diabet. This look is great. What are you talking about? This look is fantastic. This might be the best look on the Runway.

[B]

You would like this look.

[A]

This is the best look on the Runway.

[B]

No, it's not.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

No, it's not easily. It's cool. But I don't. Why is she always a bug? Is this what it's referencing?

[A]

Oh, is it from.

[B]

From 101 Dalmatians or Cruella Deville live action. Uncanny Valley.

[A]

Oh. Oh, I see the ref. I see the reference. But she's also doing a Giuseppe heel.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, but I mean, are we over that? I mean, Gaga, the Giuseppe Hill didn't carry wear one on her for one of her runways, and it was sickening and like. Yeah. It's cool. I think it's cool. But, like. Oh, I don't know. Is it? I don't know.

[A]

I think this. What do you not like about this look? This look is so good.

[B]

It's cool, but I just don't know if I like the bug thing. Like, her whole aesthetic is bug. Is that the thing? I think in season 14, she, like, ate a. Ate a bug or something.

[A]

Dragonfly. Yeah. I'm also the girls making these niche reference. But then again, she does say. She said she didn't have dolls as a kid. She liked. She grew up with bugs. Oh, she played with bugs.

[B]

That's cool.

[A]

Which is very diabetic.

[B]

This is very diabetic. I hear that. Okay, cool. I mean, it's fine.

[A]

She's like scizza. You know, scissors up to bugs now.

[B]

Sza.

[A]

Scissors. She's just like a bug.

[B]

She looks like a. Yes.

[A]

No, she is a bug. Her whole thing is bugs. She's bug girl. Whenever I talk to her about Monet, I call her bug girl. I went to the concert. All her merchandise is bugs. At one point during the concert, she. She's. Look at this. She's a bug.

[B]

What is this about?

[A]

It's hot ones. It's just hot ones. She's a bug, but she's just a bug. She loves. She's into her. She's in her bug era.

[B]

She better work. Maybe they know something we don't know. Maybe, like, you know how, like, all celebrities are vegans. I think they know something we don't know. Or they just have money.

[A]

Maybe eating bugs. Bug protein is apparently going to be the thing of the future. Let's go to our next look. We have Acid Betty, who is doing a Marie Antoinette moment.

[B]

So I came up with a theory when I was watching this. This. So as a Latina, I have culture to hark upon and use and be inspired by. As a black person, you have references and culture to be inspired by. I feel like white people's culture references are Shakespearean and Marian's with that worst thing.

[A]

White people, they have culture, but it's based in, like, the European stuff. So if you like. Like when Ms. Cracker did that whole thing about being, like, Ashkenazi Jewish or. Or. Or Rose and her Scottish thing and.

[B]

Yes, yes, okay.

[A]

And Germany and there's stuff out there. But I think a lot of white Americans don't correlate to their European heritage. They think their heritage is here in America.

[B]

Racist.

[A]

Which doesn't go. And also, it doesn't go back very far.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

But I was thinking about that. I was like, why do they always do the Mary Antoinette thing? And, like, why.

[A]

Why would girls. A lot of girls do.

[B]

Joella did.

[A]

Yeah, Joella did. And what's. Her did it. Araja did it.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

But, yeah, I think queens just relate to Marantte because she was, like, she was taken by the people, and she stood up for something, and she.

[B]

Until Drag Race, I never knew who she was.

[A]

You know, she never said that.

[B]

Who?

[A]

Rwenette.

[B]

She never said. Let me cake.

[A]

She never said it.

[B]

Who said it?

[A]

It was. It was. Someone just said. She said it. Apparently when that quote came out, she was, like, 2 years old. She never said that.

[B]

She was a hungry baby.

[A]

Never, ever said that. And it's like her big thing. Let them eat cake.

[B]

Yeah. Isn't that crazy? That's wild.

[A]

What do you think of this look?

[B]

Honestly, it's cool. I think it's, like, really well made. I just don't care for it because I don't care about the whole cake marionette thing. But, I mean.

[A]

So you agree with Michelle too much marriage.

[B]

I don't care. Yeah. I'm over it. Like, it's 2025. Move on, bitch.

[A]

To be fair. To be fair. Marriage in that it was. It was a long time ago. Even when. When Roger did it.

[B]

But that's the thing. Raja did it so well. So, like, we can't ever touch Raja's. Why?

[A]

Well, then how come Ginger to do with old. Look. But she doesn't get to do old.

[B]

But Ginger did Shakespeare, which was different than Mar.

[A]

But it's. But it's fine. Get over it.

[B]

But let them eat cake. Who's eating cake nowadays? We're all on a. Oh, yeah.

[A]

But hark be, hark beyond thy window.

[B]

Break period. Out. Damn.

[A]

Spot tis the east and Juliet is the sun. How many Shakespeare quotes can you do?

[B]

A couple.

[A]

Can you give me two? Not ones you already done. No, out. Down spot.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I already did that one.

[A]

That's no riff. Rather Juliet.

[B]

Yeah. How about two households, both alike in dignity.

[A]

Both alike. Indignity.

[B]

She said, that's all I got.

[A]

And we have one more or the last one. Cynthia Lee Fontaine. Baby, I love my sister. This is Mama.

[B]

There's something about these, like, these older season queens.

[A]

Excuse you.

[B]

It's just so endearing.

[A]

We're from the same older season.

[B]

I said what?

[A]

I said I'm not from an older season. The first four are old seasons.

[B]

Pre season. 10 is like, maybe pre. Maybe pre. Season eight.

[A]

The first four are old seasons. Yeah, I'm from one of the new seasons.

[B]

No, you're not, bitch. Not any. It's 2025, bitch. Take your Mary Antoinette and cake eating ass back.

[A]

That's a logo. Crazy in my own house. This look is so bad. It is just a piece of paper wrapped around her waist. It's.

[B]

It's. It's 99 cent store. It's what I should have done for my audition tape.

[A]

Yeah. Is this better than what you did?

[B]

I don't know what the fuck I did. I thought I was making a statement about recycling and like climate change.

[A]

I'm screaming so the judges. So let's get to the judging. So I agree with the. With Michelle that Denali was not offering much emotional support. Dog.

[B]

Dog.

[A]

And. And I agree that Cynthia's look was not great. You know what I mean?

[B]

I have my emotional support dog.

[A]

There it is. I have my Labubu.

[B]

Is it yours?

[A]

No, this is not my Labubu. This is.

[B]

I. I remember I heard some Labubu slander on one of the episodes with you and Naomi here.

[A]

What is that about?

[B]

You guys just kept dogging on Labu.

[A]

I didn't. Dog Labubus.

[B]

Someone was maybe never.

[A]

I don't have anything against Labubu.

[B]

Do you own a Labubu?

[A]

I have a Labubu.

[B]

I brought you a little boo boo.

[A]

You have a little boo boo for me? Can I see it? Yeah.

[B]

I brought Jacob one too.

[A]

You brought two Labuboos?

[B]

Yeah, the boo twos. So you two. Lubus, you made a statement once that all Disney musical theater gays are Disney gays or what did you. You said something like that once. Do you know what I'm talking about?

[A]

I'm not a Disney guy.

[B]

Well, you were. You had a conversation with someone about how if you are this kind of gay, you are a Disney gay.

[A]

Probably. I don't remember what. I don't know what it was.

[B]

Jacob a Disney gay? I think I'm a musical theater gay. And I like Disney musicals by extension.

[A]

But I'm not. I would say if you had to be classified as a gay, you would be a Pokemon gay. Really? Do you love Pokemon?

[B]

That's for you.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

So I. I just assumed you were a Disney gay as well, because you're a Pokemon gay. So I have.

[A]

You're not a Pokemon gay.

[B]

I guess. I guess I. You're such a Pokemon gay. I got you.

[A]

Oh, my God. Wait, is this real?

[B]

Yeah. They do Disney collabs. Tyler, he has A goofy one. You see? Look at Selena got a little goofy one. These are all the Disney ones.

[A]

Those are actual boo boos. Yeah.

[B]

Well, they're not. That's an outfit that I bought for him. That's an outfit. You can have that one.

[A]

No, you gave it for Jacob. It's Jacob Jacobs. Thank you.

[B]

Jacob wants it.

[A]

You got it for Jacob. Oh, my God. Thank you so much.

[B]

Yay.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

I love sharing the love of the boo boos. If you guys need to buy the boo boos, go to walpia.com and use code Selena.

[A]

Oh, Selena's a Labubu partner.

[B]

I'm not a booba partner. I'm a reseller partner. And some fans are trying to come for me. Like, how dare you do resellers. I'm a. Do you want a la boobu or not?

[A]

So, okay, so Diabetti and Ginger win the challenge.

[B]

Okay, I don't agree with that.

[A]

Who should have won?

[B]

Acid Betty and. And Ginger Minj.

[A]

I agree with you.

[B]

They both did their lip sync, and they're both paper Mary Antoinette looks, and they caught fire. Diabetti's the one who lights them. Literally.

[A]

Literally.

[B]

She would.

[A]

She would set some reason. She would blame it on Alyssa somehow. She would set Alyssa on fire somehow. This would be Alyssa's fault. I know it would. They lip sync to Mama Used to say by Junior. I have never heard this song before,

[B]

but RuPaul was living.

[A]

It's an old song I never heard.

[B]

Love this song, girl.

[A]

Diabetti wins the lipstick.

[B]

Do you agree over Ginger? Yes.

[A]

It could have gone either way.

[B]

Who cares?

[A]

No matter who they said, I've been like, sure.

[B]

I told you. These lip syncs this season are not the tea. They're not good. You. You like these? Aja is sickening. Don't. Aja is everything. Everyone else. Every other lip sync is horrible. But also, it's like this. These. I don't know. Like, I don't want to see Ginger lip sync Selena Gomez. You know what I mean? Or Miley Cyrus.

[A]

What's your favorite Miley Cyrus song?

[B]

I have an answer to this.

[A]

If you had to lip sync to a mystery song, you got it. If you said, like, the lip sync smackdown Lalapurusa, I think you get to pick.

[B]

I think Wrecking Ball would be really fun to lip sync on Drag Race can't be tamed. I mean, a Hannah Montana song would be sickening.

[A]

I like her song Fu. A lot of people don't know it, but she has a great song called Fu. I got Two, two, two letters for you.

[B]

I know my favorite Melee song.

[A]

What is it?

[B]

If we were a movie.

[A]

I don't know that one.

[B]

We were. Do you know that song? We were a movie. You be the best friend and I'd be the.

[A]

Yeah. Montana.

[B]

I don't think so.

[A]

My favorite Dolly Parton song is Two Doors Down.

[B]

O. I don't know that song.

[A]

Ooh, so good. It's a song about how she was feeling bad for herself, but she had a party two doors down. She went to the party, met a man, took him home and fucked him.

[B]

She better work. I love her.

[A]

Two doors down they're laughing and dancing and having a party two doors down they're not aware that I'm around and here I am feeling everything but sorry, we're having a party just two doors

[B]

down I' ma fuck this man.

[A]

And she goes to the party, meets the man, takes him home to fucking them Two doors down I live. It's a great song solution. So it is time to give some

[B]

MVQ points, but they got to give it away on stage. No time to strategize right away in front of RuPaul.

[A]

It's stressful and you can't hear someone give an answer and try to change yours. You have to write it in the mirror.

[B]

There is this person who works in like TV show challenges and he made a TikTok and he was like. If they really wanted this bracket system to work out in a sickening way, strategic wise, here's what they would do is they would have the girls vote before they know the results. So then the results happen and then

[A]

however they voted like they do on the main stage.

[B]

No, before they know who wins. So everyone gets a vote and then the winners get their points. And then there's extra points involved as well. That would be so sickening.

[A]

I'm doing our podcast right now. Our podcast. Where are you? Where are you? Are you going to be at your studio for a while? Yes, doing our podcast. You're on the podcast right now. I'm going to come see you like around like 6:30. Okay, goodbye. Do you want to say anything to your listeners?

[B]

Nope, she does not.

[A]

Who are you doing the podcast with? None of your business. Anyway, goodbye. Bye. So cynically, Fontaine gives her point to Alyssa. Denali gives her point to Acid Betty.

[B]

Okay, wait. Cynthia gives it to Alyssa?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay. Why wouldn't she want to give it to Denial? Because she wants to get forward. So she can't give it to Denali. Because if you give the Denali, Denali beats her out. So Cynthia had to give it to someone.

[A]

She's very much the Puerto Rican.

[B]

Why wouldn't she give it to, oh, Puerto Rican pride, Latina sister? Okay, that makes sense. I'm trying to.

[A]

I mean, Denali's also Latina.

[B]

I'm trying to see their thought process.

[A]

But I'm saying Denali's Latina.

[B]

But Denali would beat her and she. It would do her a disservice. She couldn't move on if she gave it.

[A]

She also has a connection with the list, Alyssa. Okay, she doesn't have a connection with Denali.

[B]

There it is. And Denali did say too. I didn't really build a rapport with the girls in that way. This whole bracket. And maybe that was, you know, worked in, didn't work for her.

[A]

Denali gave her point to Acid Betty.

[B]

Denali gave her point to Acid Betty. Throwaway point. I'm not giving it to any that could possibly beat me. Let me give it to Acid. We're good.

[A]

Alyssa gives her point to Denali.

[B]

Alyssa gives it to Denali.

[A]

And she cries because she was like, cynthia, I can't give you this point because. Because at this point, at this point, they were tied.

[B]

No, no. I heard Diabetti threaten the list. If you give another fucking point to Cuckoo, bitch.

[A]

Motherfucking. Maybe that's what it was.

[B]

Well, why didn't she give it to Cuckoo? She gave it to Denali because she thought, Denali deserves to move on.

[A]

And then as Betty gives her point to Cynthia to Cuckoo, Cynthia pulls ahead honestly and edges out Denali. Did I get that right?

[B]

Yes. I don't.

[A]

Wait, Cynthia must have gotten two points cuz her and Denali were tied.

[B]

Denali gave her a point to.

[A]

Did I miss something, Jacob?

[B]

Acid or Cuckoo?

[A]

Denali gave her point to Acid Betty. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, was you. Were you admiring your labu Boo?

[A]

Alyssa gave her point to Denali. Acid Beta gave her point to Cynthia Lee Fontaine. Cynthia gave one to Alyssa.

[B]

Oh, no. Alyssa gave it to Cuckoo. No, to Denali.

[A]

Oh, no, she did.

[B]

That's why she was crying. So how did Cuckoo got three? She went up. She got.

[A]

But Alyssa and Denali were. Cuckoo and Denali were tied.

[B]

Sorry, I. I don't have a written down. It may. It makes sense, but I.

[A]

Maybe I wrote something down wrong, but all I know is that Celia Fontaine edged out Denali and got put forward thanks to Acid.

[B]

Acid had the final call. Yes, they were tied. Had three. Denali had two.

[A]

No, they were tied. They kept saying, we're tied. We're tired. We're tied.

[B]

Going into. Before it. Cynthia had three from the last. Denali had two, and then Denali got. From Alyssa. Alyssa and.

[A]

And then it's. So I guess they weren't tied. I don't know. I could think they're tied. Someone was. Someone was tied.

[B]

They were tied.

[A]

They were.

[B]

They weren't tied beforehand. No.

[A]

Cynthia and. And Diabetti were tied.

[B]

Oh, Diabetti.

[A]

Cynthia. Diabetes. Were. They each had four points.

[B]

Points.

[A]

They each had four.

[B]

I think it was three.

[A]

I remember because Cynthia got three points during the thing. Oh, yeah. She got one point earlier. So Cynthia and Diabetti each have four points going in. That's what it was. Yes.

[B]

Oh, and then Denali tied up.

[A]

Yeah. For like, a second. Yeah.

[B]

But Diabetti won the lip sync in the challenge, so she's already moving on with Ginger. Diabetti and Ginger are moving on.

[A]

They're locked in.

[B]

So it's Cynthia and Denali that are able to go on acid has the final choice.

[A]

She picks Cynthia Lefontaine.

[B]

When I respect her for. Because it did feel like this is my sister. I'm. She's just as talented as Denali. She's funny. She's a sister Work. Do you think Cuckoo deserved to go forward? Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That in my. In my heart, I'm like, who deserves to move forward? Because you want to semifinals of bitches who are actually good.

[A]

And I know Denali also could have deserved 1,000%. I think that her and Cynthia deserve it equally.

[B]

And that's my thing. And that's what I want to make a point, because I see a lot of discourse on Twitter and stuff about poor Denali. She was robbed. She was robbed. She was robbed. But it's like, well, Cuckoo was also just as deserving.

[A]

She was. Cynthia Lee Fontana has been great this season, and there was. And she never got her flowers from the judges ever.

[B]

Really? I didn't clock that.

[A]

Like, not. Not. Not. Not through the. Through the means of points. They gave her praise, correct?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

They wouldn't give her the points. That's the baby. They would give her the praise. They would not give her the points.

[B]

Which is always very telling because, you know, the judges don't know what the girls are talking about. Back to backstage. Right. Like, they don't. They're not in the work room. They don't hear these discussions. So for them to give the points on stage and the judges are watching, they get to peek into how the dynamic with the girls are. So it's interesting, I think As a judge, to be like, oh, this is who the girls are choosing?

[A]

Exact.

[B]

Yes. That's interesting.

[A]

So with that, Cynthia Le Fontaine, Ginger Min, and Diabet move on. Is the. Are. Are these the deserving three?

[B]

Sure. It could be Denali, too, but honestly, I would want to see Acid Betty up there, to be honest.

[A]

So everyone except Alyssa Hunter.

[B]

I mean, I think we all.

[A]

I just want to be clear. You're saying every. You want to move five girls through and leave Alyssa Hunter behind?

[B]

I think Alyssa kind of. Here's the thing with this whole bracket thing. There's girls who go there who know they're not making it semifinals.

[A]

It's one thing to pick up top three. You chose the bottom one.

[B]

Listen, listen. And I think she's a bottom. So, like, am I wrong? Did I lie?

[A]

You're wild for that.

[B]

Did I lie?

[A]

No. Do I agree? The top three. I believe that Gingerbread deserve to move on.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I believe, cynically, Fontaine deserves to move on.

[B]

I don't think diabetes, and I would have swapped that.

[A]

Diabetes put in Acid Betty.

[B]

Yeah. I don't think Diabet need to go, but I would never say that out loud because she scares me, and her fans scare me, and she's.

[A]

She's like a big, tall, praying man. She'll eat your head off.

[B]

She will. I feel like she would even do some fucking voodoo on me.

[A]

You think so?

[B]

Yeah, like, white girl craft magic.

[A]

White people can't do voodoo.

[B]

Well, they don't do voodoo, but they do.

[A]

They can do witchcraft, though.

[B]

Witchcraft. Yeah, but. But, like, no, white people are just serial killers. They just kill them themselves.

[A]

Are you gonna kill me? There's two of them here looking at us.

[B]

Wait, Australia's not white.

[A]

Australians are white.

[B]

No, Australians. What I love about them is they have foreskin. I love white foreskin. I'm, like, curious. Yeah, foreskin, you know, Gus, Ken really has foreskin.

[A]

Yeah, foreskin pretty much everywhere except America. Like, almost any country you go to, except Israel, they will have foreskin.

[B]

They do, right? And I love that.

[A]

Like, if you go to. You don't got to go to. You can go to Canada, you can go to Mexico.

[B]

Black foreskin, too, exists, which I don't come across a lot in America.

[A]

I've seen some black foreskin in my life. Yeah, I've seen. I've seen some black foreskin.

[B]

It's fun, you know, I'm.

[A]

How do I feel about foreskin? Foreskin is fine.

[B]

Yeah, I love foreskin.

[A]

It's so, like, a lot of skin. Like, five skin.

[B]

I like it?

[A]

Do you ever rub your tongue around on the inside of it? All right, on that note, we will see you all over on Untucked. Bye.

[B]

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