Sibling Watchery: Drag Race All Stars S11 E8 "Rappin' Roast Redux"

Summary

Sibling Rivalry: Sibling Watchery Drag Race All Stars 11 E8 "Rappin' Roast Redux"

Episode Date: June 24, 2026
Guests: Monet X Change (host), Trinity The Tuck (guest co-host)
Episode Theme:
A comedic, deep-dive dissection of RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars 11 Episode 8, “Rappin’ Roast Redux.” Monet is joined by Trinity The Tuck, replacing Bob for this celebratory, shade-filled episode breaking down the bracket, performance critiques, runway fashion, and RuPaul drama. This episode centers around the new “rappin’ roast” challenge and how the queens fared, with their signature blend of ruthless honesty, pageant/industry expertise, and banter.

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Episode Overview

Sibling Rivalry’s Sibling Watchery this week features Monet and Trinity (no Bob—“she’s on a bender!”) discussing All Stars 11’s highly anticipated Rappin’ Roast Redux. They recap all the key happenings—challenge strategies, writing skills, performances, runway looks, fan and judge expectations, and “who should have won.” The girls dish on production, the state of drag, and what separates a winner from a “who?” in Drag Race’s exploding alumni pool.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Who Should Return for All Stars Bracket-style Formats?

[04:05] Monet: “Trinh, if you had to go back for a bracket style, would you want to be the first, second, or third bracket?”
Trinity: “Third bracket, because I’d definitely make it further—plus, you get more consecutive episodes in a row. America forgets about you if you’re on first.”

• Bracket placement is strategic for visibility and momentum.
• Both respect the grind but Monet doubts she could repeat the All Stars marathon.

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2. Performance Recap: Lip Sync & Challenge Analysis

Who won the Sam vs. Jasmine Lip Sync?

[05:09]
Monet: “Sam Star or Jasmine, who won the lipsync?”
Trinity: “Sam, because Jasmine is a phenomenal performer, but I don’t think she’s a strong lipsyncer.”

• Sam Star’s charm and on-camera personality praised.
• Trinity notes Sam’s youth and priorities: “Sam is too worried about hot boys… when she grows up she’ll have more control over her brand.” ([06:16])
• Monet on the crowded alumni pool: “You gotta do things to separate you from all these other girls. Otherwise people are going to be like, ‘Sam who?’” ([06:53])

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Strategic Game-Talk: Points and Trust Issues

[07:28]

• Giving away “points” is a game of trust; Trinity calls out the “lack of reliability” in some queens and teases for-television drama.

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3. Rappin’ Roast Challenge – Rules, Strategy & Critique

Deciding Challenge Order: Does it Matter?

[21:30] Monet: “In my humble opinion, I don’t think the order matters much on Drag Race.”

• Trinity agrees, only the pressure Drag Race judges put on openers/closers can sway perception.

Roasting vs. Reading

[19:39] Monet: Questions if Jasmine Kennedy’s “reading” prowess works for a roast:

• “Reading’s not roasting. She has good quips, but we shall see.”

On Bringing Lyrics from Home or Using a Ghostwriter

[32:48] Monet: “I think it’s fine to bring lyrics from home… the show is at a level where girls are scared to have a bad lyric—y’all won’t let them live it down.”

• Trinity: “It’s more a reality TV show than a fair competition. Bring whatever you need: lyrics, jokes, patterns, looks. It’s just song lyrics.”
• Both agree: it should sound like the queen performing.

Notable Quote – Roster Checklist for a Drag Race Queen

Monet: “50% of drag is being delusional about your abilities and 50% being real about it.” [20:29]

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4. Challenge-by-Challenge Analysis

Joey Jay’s “Robbed” Rappin’ Roast

[27:34] Notable Lyrics:
“These gay ass bitches about to total these hoes / Read me cause I’m gay, bitch, I shoot rainbows…”
“Kennedy, slow down, I think I heard your hip hop, Sam star going far, tryin’ to read me in a borrowed dress…”

[27:50] Monet: “Joey J killed this… She had complete command of the stage. The best of the night.”
[28:57] Trinity: “She was immaculate—Winner energy.”
[53:20] Trinity: “They should have just crowned her right there.”

Notable moment: Both Monet and Trinity agree Joey Jay was the true winner but was overlooked by production/judges.

Jasmine Kennedy

• “Estrogen” punchline.
• Reads landed (notably Kennedy’s eye), but delivery felt “Dr. Seuss.”
• Monet: “Didn’t sound like Jasmine’s voice. Ghostwriting is fine—just needs to sound like you.”
• Trinity: “Jasmine ascends by delusion alone.” [20:26]

Kennedy Davenport

• Lyrics all over but performed to filth.
• Notable lines: “Chocolate, no it ain’t Hershey’s, it ain’t Hershey’s flop.”
• “Runner up… Ain’t no kin to me, just my mini me…”
  [39:08] Monet: “Kennedy shines by performance. Her energy was electric—helped sell the rap.”

Hershi La Courgitay

• Best rap cadence, wrote her own lyrics.
• Mixed reviews: Monet rewards originality despite a few references needing “deciphering,” Trinity didn’t like the look or second verse.
• Example lyric: “Joey J finally put on a wig…”
• Called the British cigarette/fag line “clever” though some needed explanation.

Suga Cane

• Weakest lyrics, outfit “school girl in a Walmart bra.”
• Only memorable for being “cute” and endearing. [46:36] Monet/Trinity

Samantha Star

• Middle tier performance; best lyric (“Irrigate the land”) was so off it became a running joke.
• Awful outfit, energy good but lyrics and look both uneven.

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Order Ranking Debates (Per Hosts):

• Monet: Joey J, Hershi, Kennedy, Jasmine, Sam, Suga.
• Trinity: Joey J, Kennedy, Hershi, Sam, Jasmine, Suga.

Fun panel argument: Jay, the producer, rates Jasmine much higher than Monet/Trinity and gets “gathered.” ([52:11–54:24])

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5. Runway Critiques – "Ladies Who Lunch"

General Take: Mixing Taste with Category

• Joey J: “Loved the hair, love matching shoes—only knit was navy flower vs sky blue dress, but mug was beautiful.”
• Jasmine Kennedy: “Immaculate period look—researched, accurate, one of my favorites.” Trinity hates the time period but admits execution was flawless.
• Kennedy Davenport: "Bugle bead controversy"—Monet hated it, Trinity calls it pageant-perfect for 'sportswear.'
• Hershi: “Beautiful face, color—but the breastplate/titty bib was way off.”
• Suga Cane: “No. I hate it. Sit at another table.” (Monet) - says it’s more ‘meet and greet’ than ‘lady who lunches’.
• Samantha Star: Chanel-inspired, loved exaggerated cuffs/collar, bad hat. “Legally Blonde goes to lunch.” Hair down not best choice, dog accessory “extra for no reason.”

Runway Ranks (Per Hosts):

• Monet: Jasmine, Sam, Hershi, Joey J, Kennedy, Suga
• Trinity: Jasmine, Joey J, Sam, Kennedy, Suga, Hershi

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6. Judges’ Critiques & the Notorious Michelle List

[71:05]

• Michelle expanding her list of “Drag Race trends she doesn’t like” to include Mugler-inspired biker looks.
• Trinity: “Who cares what Michelle likes? She should be judging things unbiasedly.”
• Monet: “I don’t know how often we’ve seen the Mugler biker thing… and this isn’t even a Harley.”

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7. Lip Sync Breakdown: "The Ladies Who Lunch"

• Kennedy: “One of the best lip syncs I’ve seen in years. Total commitment to the character.” —Monet [77:08–78:34]
• Trinity: “Kennedy is the most diverse performer—can sell a ballad or a gimmick better than anyone. It’s a masterclass in performing and lip syncing.” ([78:34])
• Monet: “She can do this number at bars for coins for years to come.”

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8. Recurring Themes & Memorable Quotes

• On production decisions: “Joey J should have been top two—she was robbed!”
• Monet (on Drag alumni): “With over 400 girls now, you gotta do things to separate yourself or people will forget you.”
• Trinity (on Kennedy): “She’s as strong as she acts, but sensitive… she can take things personally in this environment.” ([55:07])
• Trinity (on ‘hand-me-downs’): “Most of Sam’s looks weren’t mine—she bought them, and it was smart! Why go broke for Drag Race?”

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9. Predictions, Drag Race Commentary & Industry Analysis

• [80:49] Monet: “I’m gonna predict Kennedy and Sam will move on—Kennedy is just too good.”
• Discussion of Drag Race fairness (“not really”) and fan toxicity, especially around who brings what to the show.

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Notable/Quotable Moments by Timestamp

• [03:36] Trinity: “He pulled out trauma out of me I’ve never told anybody—how does he do this? And then conned me into helping him make a jean gown, but it turned out sickening.”
• [06:53] Monet: “With what—over 400 of us—you gotta start now doing things to separate you from all these other girls.”
• [12:03] Monet: “Judges have done it before—Trinity and I have both been victims of it!”
• [15:11] Trinity: “Love a rapping roast. It’s more in a drag queen’s element—just more casual and fun.”
• [20:29] Monet: “50% of drag is being delusional about your abilities and 50% being real about it.”
• [27:50] Monet: “That was so good. Joey J killed this. I thought she killed it. In my humble opinion, the best of the night.”
• [28:26] Trinity: “Immaculate. It was immaculate. I was like, this... she was giving All Stars winner energy.”
• [53:20] Trinity: “Joey J won hands down. The rest of these girls could just go home; they should have just crowned her.”
• [79:57] Trinity: “Kennedy can sell a ballad standing there; she can dance the house down; she can sell a gimmick. She is so diverse. It’s immaculate. RuPaul was right, it’s a masterclass in performing.”
• [80:49] Monet: “I want to say Kennedy and Sam are going to move on.”

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Final Thoughts

Sibling Watchery delivers a hilarious and deeply knowledgeable episode that epitomizes the best of Drag Race fandom commentary: sharp, informed, and brutally honest, yet delivered with love for the art and its “sisters.” Monet and Trinity give fans backstage context on the competition, reading and roast strategies, fashion execution, and the often-unfair production or judge-driven outcomes. Their Lady Who Lunches debate, Joey Jay “robbery,” and breakdown of Kennedy’s iconic performance provide both laughs and insight for fans who want more than a recap.

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The Ultimate Takeaway

• Joey Jay was the true winner of the episode but passed over.
• Rappin’ Roast is a fun innovation—order doesn’t matter if you own your moment.
• Fashion and lyrics can be subjective: judges, production, and Drag Race fandom all play a role.
• Kennedy Davenport continues to prove why she’s legendary.
• The road to Drag Race stardom is paved with smart strategy, realness, and a healthy dose of delusion.

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Transcript

[Monet X Change]

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[Monet X Change]

Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to Sibling Watchery. It is my sibling and one of my favorite queens. I love this bitch so much. Trinity the Tuck is back. I mean, sorry, Trinity Taylor. Wait, are you. You're Trinity Taylor now? Not Trinity the Tuck.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I'm Trinity the Tuck, but the Tuck. Okay, well, I say. I say girl. First of all, you can call me whatever girl. I've been called worse. It is what it is. But no, I always say, like, the Tuck is like my nickname, but I go by Trinity the Tuck. But Trinity Taylor is still like, you know, if I do, like, pageant stuff, like when I go back as a former to Eoy, do my walk. They always say Trinity Taylor, so there's no right or wrong.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, word. Well, someone just said the holy twinity. I love that. The holy twinity.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yes. Twinners. That's fierce.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Winners. So today is Bob the Drag Queen's birthday. So she's, I think she was on an all night bender. She did a lot of cocaine and a lot of drugs, so she couldn't make the episode today. So thank. We're, We're. We're graced and blessed that we have Trin for the win back on the episode last. Last week's episode was very funny. You and Bob are very funny together.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Bob is unhinged and. And he gets you. So Bo Monet, I don't know how you to do it. He. He there. Everything's a trap, girl. Everything, girl.

[Monet X Change]

He.

[Trinity The Tuck]

He pulled out trauma out of me that I've never told anybody about me being held back. Like, how does he do this? And then he tried to con me into helping him make a jean gown, but he sent me pictures. It actually turned out sickening.

[Monet X Change]

It turned out really good. I was very surprised. He was like, he's like, well, Trinity helped me a lot. I was like, I could tell because it looks good.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, he did great. It was really good.

[Monet X Change]

But you know, enough about Bob the Drag Queen. Who cares about him? It's about us and it's about this episode of RuPaul's Drag Race. This is episode seven. No, eight. Episode eight of RuPaul's Drag Race season all stars 11. Trinh, if you had to go back for a bracket style, would you want to be the first bracket, second bracket, or third bracket?

[Trinity The Tuck]

I think third bracket, because I definitely would make it to the next round and it's just more consecutive episodes in a row.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Breaking it. Yeah, you're right. So you basically get the last six episodes as opposed to on three. America forgets about you for like five. For like five. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, that's what I think. I mean, but. But I, I love competition. So I would go back. I would go back for a regular All Stars.

[Monet X Change]

We would. Trinity.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I just love it.

[Monet X Change]

So exhausting.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I love it. I love it. I love it. I would go. Especially if they asked for another winter season. I just, I had so much fun on All Star seven. Like, I love it.

[Monet X Change]

All night. Seven was fun. It was fun. Yeah. I don't think I could go back, girl. I don't think I have it in me. I don't think I could do it again. I'm just. Yeah, I don't think I have it in me, but.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Well, I mean, girl, you won once and you almost won again, so, you know, you don't really need to.

[Monet X Change]

But do you know who won this week and is very confident about this all is your draw. Daughter, Ms. Sam Star is going on about eating Jasmine up and Jasmine thinks that she beat Sam. Who do you think won the lip sync, Jasmine or Sam?

[Trinity The Tuck]

I think Sam, because I think that Jasmine is a phenomenal. I said this last week. I think Jasmine is a phenomenal performer. I don't think she's a strong lip syncer. And to me, Sam sold the lip sync and was a good performer. I think it was. It wasn't like. I don't think Sam just completely slayed.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I agree, I agree, I agree. Yeah, I think also too, like having Sam, I forgot how charming Samsar is. Samsar is very funny. This is some trinity Jean. She's very funny. Her talking heads are always so cunty. So, like, just. She's a really, really, really. And I feel like we don't see that outside of the show. Like, she needs to, like, do some more stuff where she's, like, talking and, like, engaging, like out of Drag Race. Because she' funny on camera.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, I think Sam one. Sam's very young, and Sam sleeps till about. And this is all. All real tea. Sam sleeps till she has to get ready for the next gig. And Sam is too worried about hot boys. So I think when Sam grows up a little bit, she. And she. She starts to do more stuff like I've suggested, she will have more control over, like, what. What she puts out into the world, you know? And I love Sam. I think she's super talented. But, yeah, she ain't gonna do that right now, girl. She's too worried about sucking a dick.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know what these girls are gonna realize with. With what? Over 400 of us, girl, you gotta start now doing things to separate you from all these other girls. Otherwise, you're gonna turn around and people are gonna be like, sam who? And you're like. You're like. You're gonna lose the fan base if you don't, like, do things to, like, keep us engaged in you outside of just Drag Race, but, you know. Yep, good for her. Yep, that's true. And now. So it's time to give away the points. And no one wants to go first, which I agree. Going first is a fucking trap. We've seen it with Mistress Isabelle Brooks and other girls Going first is a trap. And I want to see what y' all are gonna do before I say what I'm gonna do. And it'll be a standstill.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah. I think if I was on a bracket with people, like somebody that I absolutely 100% trusted, like say I was back on one with you or I was one when Sam or somebody like that, I would 100% just give you my point. But some of these girls, like. Yeah, you don't know. And especially the way Kennedy's acting.

[Monet X Change]

I know, I know Ms. Kennedy. Well, Kennedy's old, so she's like. Kennedy's old. She's tired. She's like, oh, girl, whatever. So Joey. Joey decides to go first, which, by the way, also Joey J's hair game on this season. Her hair is really good. Whoever who's is.

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[Monet X Change]

Are those Chantel she's wearing?

[Trinity The Tuck]

No, her ponytail. She does them herself. Oh, wow. Really? Now the updo stuff, like the her Runway hair that she's been wearing, that is wigs by Hassan.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Morgan's husband.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Morgan's husband. Yes, he does.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Trinity The Tuck]

But I think her slick back ponytails, she's. She learned to do them herself. I. I did a show with her and she said that.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, fierce. Okay. Full tea. I remember when Morgan's Michael. Morgan's Michael Morgan. Michael's husband first started doing hair. They were a little bit, but now I would absolutely buy a lot of this.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Oh, he's really talented. Him. Him. My. My two go tos is him and Chantel Yanni's is.

[Monet X Change]

And he lives in la. I don't even have to get it shipped. Good to know.

[Trinity The Tuck]

And he's. You wear a lot of human. He's starting to do a lot of custom dye. Human.

[Monet X Change]

Good to know. But I'm gonna text him literally as soon as we get off of this.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And so Joey. Joey J decides to go first and she gives her point to Hershey and Hershey reciprocates. So Joey and Joey. Joey and Hershey trade points. And then Sugar gives her point to Kennedy. And then Kennedy comes with this speech and I'm like, oh, God. So she gives this piece like she's gonna go a whole different direction to. To drum up drama and to be extra. But she like, like I thought she was not going to give it to Sugar, but she ends up giving it the sugar anyway.

[Trinity The Tuck]

She should have given it to Jasmine. Just, just. But just because, girl, if you go talk all that smack, girl, just go ahead and give the point to somebody else and give us A reason to be living right now. You know what I mean? Like, I want the drama.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I agree. But also, I would say I would be scared to give it to Jasmine because no shade. Because she wasn't early out her season, I wouldn't expect her to be doing well. So I'll give it to her. But this second episode, she did kind of all right too. So, like, I feel like she's more of a threat than we. Than I would underestimate her to be, you know?

[Trinity The Tuck]

Agree, agree. And also, you know, the thing about Suga is she's a sweetheart. So, like, that would be like, literally to be shady to Suga is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Cause she's the sweetheart.

[Trinity The Tuck]

She is.

[Monet X Change]

She is really, really, really sweet.

[Jay]

I think Kennedy was trying to stay in everyone's good graces. Like, I think she was trying to be like I acknowledged, you know, Jasmine, Kennedy did really well here. I saw Sam do really good with doing this, but because Sugar gave her the point, she wanted to reciprocate but wanted to make sure the other girls know I still saw that you guys all did good just in case on a next episode.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I mean. I mean, on the final one when they all had to give their points on stage, like, maybe this will help her out in the end. We shall see in one more week.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, that does make sense.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So Kennedy. So the girls are d dragging and Kennedy is really. She's on the Jasmine one, the lip sync train. Just because they, like, worked in Vegas together. So I think they have, like a little. They have a friendship outside of this. Of course. I'm like, girl, Kennedy, I mean, sorry, Jasmine did not beat Sam, like, but she also.

[Jay]

Jasmine beat her.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but. But Kennedy was the main one when they were like.

[Trinity The Tuck]

So you can't tell from the back. Like, what are you. What are you talking about? You can't tell from the back.

[Jay]

And they edited out a bunch of stuff Jasmine did, according to the girls

[Monet X Change]

who said Jasmine said this?

[Jay]

A few of them. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Well, girl, at the end of the day, we can only go about what we see.

[Monet X Change]

What we saw.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Exactly. And what. What we also know is the girls can't see them lip syncing from the back. So, you know, at the end of the day, what the judges say is

[Monet X Change]

what the judges say. It is what it is.

[Jay]

Even if Jasmine won, Sam bodied the challenge. So it would have felt not good not giving her the win anyway.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, the judges have done it before. Hello. And Trinity. Trinity and I have both been victims of it. Girl. Oh, this is a Reminder of Bob and I, we are coming to Montreal for the Just for laughs festival on July 22nd. So if you're watching this and you live in Montreal or close to, come see us for sibling rivalry live July 22nd in Montreal. Just go to hahaha.com or monetexchange.com or seethedradqueen.com to get tickets. Trinity, do you want to plug any

[Trinity The Tuck]

dates I actually have? Well, I'm going the whole month of this. I'm going to announce the dates soon. Of July, I'm in Europe. I have a European tour. I'm going to be gone the entire month and I'm going to the uk, Spain, Cologne, Amsterdam, Romania. Girl, where Dracula is Girl, I don't think they've ever had a drag race, girl. Like, what?

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Trinity The Tuck]

Girl, Romania, baby. I don't know, but they have a, they have a paycheck, so I'm, I'm flying there.

[Monet X Change]

So, you know, sometimes girls do gigs. I'm so jealous. Like, Romania, I would love to go to Romania. Peppermint did like one in India one time. That sounds so fun.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Do you like scary stuff?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't hate it. I'm not like a scary seeker, but I don't. I like it. Yeah.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Because right now they're building in Romania, they're building a theme park. It's a multi billion dollar theme park around Dracula and it's not open yet, which I'm very pissed about because it's supposed to open next year, so I'm going to have to go back to Romania.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, work. Yeah. I mean, it seems like that should have existed a long time. They're only now making a fucking Dracula theme park.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Hello.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, hello. So. And then, so now later we see Sam is expressing a little sensitivity and hurt about the lip sync comments because the girls are invalidating her down. And I see that too. Like when, you know, when you get out there and you did your thing and everyone is trying to invalidate you, that shit is annoying as hell in a competition like this.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, I get it. I get it. Sam needs to suck it up, though. I know from experience, you know, I'm a very honest person. I give my honest critique and people can say that I'm biased all day, but I'm not. If people watch my review show, they'll know that on season 17, I was not biased to my drag children and Sam even had messaged me several times. You hurt my feelings. I'm like, girl, I'm sorry. This is the Real world. I have an opinion. You know I love you, but that don't mean I'm always going to agree with you. So I think she needs to just suck it up, girl. I think she does do a pretty good job, though, of navigating all these girls coming at her. But, girl, don't show them that it gets to you.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Especially with. Because some of these bitches are little vampires. They want to. They want to suck the joy out of you. Okay, so then RuPaul comes in, and we find out that this week is a wrapping roast, which. So they did this in Mistress and Tina Burner's bracket last season. And I like this format of a roast.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Cause I think. Love it.

[Monet X Change]

I think Drag Race has been doing again for so many seasons. So when they find ways to spice up the challenges they do every season, I enjoy, like, a wrapping roast. I like this new addition until it gets tired in, like, three more seasons, but. So it's a wrapping roast. How would you feel about a wrapping roast?

[Trinity The Tuck]

I love a wrapping roast. I think that this is very fun. It's not. It's not. I would feel like this would not be as much pressure on somebody who's not good at a roast, because on a Rose regular roast, you have. You have. There is a setup and a punchline. This is more like lyrics to a song.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity The Tuck]

So it's a little bit more fun. It's a little bit more in a drag queen's element that, you know, you're performing and it's just more casual, and I like it. I liked it. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And I think it gives girls who are. Who are good performers, it gives them, like, a vehicle to roast better. Like, for case in point, Jasmine Kennedy. Right. She's not. I mean, we haven't seen her do a roast, but I don't think Jasmine would particularly thrive in a roast. But having the vehicle of performance to do the roles, I think gives. That gives them an edge up.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And it's just also the first. This is the first challenge we're gonna see of Hershey on Drag Race. That is not design, because she went home on a design challenge her original season. So this is, like, her first, like, bite at the apple of, like, something that isn't just about making clothes, which she's not. She's not horrible, but she's definitely not good at it. So I'm. She's horrible.

[Trinity The Tuck]

She's horrible at it. She's horrible at it, girl. If they. If they would have had an elimination last week, girl, she would have went home. But yes, at at least this is not that.

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[Monet X Change]

Also me, because Jasmine, she seems very confident in her. In her. In her reading abilities. She. But you see. But she said reading, not roasting. Like, she feels very good at reading the dog, which she has some.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Some.

[Monet X Change]

Some.

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[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, she is. I think she will be good at it. But also, Jasmine thinks she's good at everything. She has got. She's got that Dulu Kool Aid, honey, that she's had from her original season. And I will say it usually can help you. I mean, like, look at Discord. Like, it. It kind of helped her get through.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Not. Not. Yeah, Discord.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Discord. She made it to, like, top six or something like that. Yeah.

[Trinity The Tuck]

On her delusion alone. So, you know, fair.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Listen, I always say this. I say, like, 50% of drag is being delusional about. About your abilities and 50% being real about it. I was like, there has to be in order to think, especially when you come on a competition show. I am. I'm. I'm a big fan of talking shit. The only thing is that when you talk shit and you don't meet the moment, everybody can clown you for it, but go in. Especially when you. When no one's going home, so who gives a fuck? The judges can't send you home. So, like, whatever, even if you don't order it. And. Oh, yeah. So the girls. So this is maybe the first time in a long time, but RuPaul doesn't let one person choose the order. The girls collectively have to decide the order. And tell me how you feel about this. Okay, I've said this before on Justin Guarantee and stuff. In my humble opinion, I don't think the order that you go really matters. Like, out in the real world, if you were doing, like, a standup set, like a comedy club for real, and you go behind someone, that really bombs, I think that can like, hurt your thing. But in the. In the parameters of Drag Race, the order, in my opinion, does not matter. How. How do you.

[Trinity The Tuck]

What do you think for this specific thing, the rap and roast? It does not matter. I think in the setup of Drag Race roasts, the pressure that Drag Race judges put on the person opening and closing can affect the way that they are judged, because that just opens the gate for them to be like, well, you weren't a great opener or, well, you weren't a great closer. But not to the extent of. I. I think if you're good, you're good, and if you're bad, you're bad.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and Joey J. Wants to go first. That's what I will. I. I mean, I always like to go first in roasts. I feel like I like setting the tone, and I'll also be. Even though. Cause we'll. We'll get into the.

[Jay]

The.

[Monet X Change]

The raps. Even though I don't think anyone would. Would get any of my, like. Like. Like some overlapping of my jokes, I just like to go first so I can get mine done. And. And. And taking on the pressure of being first, that's.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Well, you're also really good at roasts. Roasts are like, stand up is one of your things. So, like, again, you're, like, you're the perfect opener or closer because you have that expectation, and you meet that expectation. Now me, you know, it's a work in progress.

[Monet X Change]

You're fucking hilarious. But Sam, your daughter, wants to go last, so Joey, Jane wants to go first, Sam wants to go last, and they have, like, some. A few things. Hershey wants to go third or fourth, and everyone, pretty much every. Everyone gets what they want. Nobody's upset with their. With their. With their place. So I'm like, work. That's great.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Y.

[Monet X Change]

Here we go. Let's get into the challenge. Oh, wait. Should we. I guess we should wish in order. Let's talk about these looks. I think RuPaul is good. I think.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I love.

[Monet X Change]

I am a big fan of matching a shoe to an outfit, and I love that they painted it or wrapped this shoe in the exact same foil fabric of this dress. And I think rule looks great. I mean, this hair is a choice,

[Trinity The Tuck]

but I like the hair. You don't like the hair?

[Monet X Change]

You like this hair?

[Trinity The Tuck]

I do, but one. I try. What I've been doing lately is I'm trying to not. I would never wear this hair. But wait, hold on.

[Monet X Change]

I like this hair. I mean, I'll never fucking wear it, but I like This.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I would never wear this hair. But, you know, I try to look at things like, okay, mom is in her, what, 60s? So, like, 65 is too thick. Yeah. This is an age appropriate wig for her. It's styled nicely. I think it goes with the look. Yeah, I like the hair.

[Monet X Change]

Truth. What is age appropriate? I feel like if RuPaul had this fucking outfit on with a slick back snatchback pony, Joey Jay pony, that would be fucking cut. Imagine RuPaul walked down there with a slick back pony, like, high pony.

[Trinity The Tuck]

It would be cunt. But I also think, you know, mom is mom ing today and I'm okay with it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I mean, again, and I say this all the time, Rufal is the. She's not a drag queen. She's a queen of drag. When she can literally have any wig, any hairstyling, anything. And when you choose, when you have that much power to roll out and miss, to me, that's crazy. But, you know, God bless her.

[Trinity The Tuck]

But girl, one thing I want to point out, girl with darker skin tone, ladies, it is really hard for you guys to match your tights because the. It's just limited on colors. The range is not there. Whoever gets RuPaul's tights, they have to be custom dyed because they are like, exact to her skin tone.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I agree.

[Trinity The Tuck]

It's like, it's crazy. And this is like, this is the same thing with, like, you know, a lot of makeup brands. The range is just not there. They. They don't cater to, you know, the white privilege out there. But RuPaul, this is immaculate. It literally looks like her skin.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I think it's definitely custom dyed. For sure. It is the. That's what I'm saying. Like, RuPaul, like, goes like, so. So, like, what am I looking for? So, so meticulous in certain aspects. But I think with hair, I think RuPaul is like, u. So give me, give me that one, girl.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Where is Curtis?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Who's doing her wig? Is it. Is it Raven? Raven's doing her wigs now.

[Monet X Change]

Is she?

[Trinity The Tuck]

I don't know. I'm asking you. You have more insight than I do.

[Monet X Change]

They like you? I don't know. I mean, when. So Raven did Monat talks. Everyone want to check out the Monet talks episode with Raven. And she said, this is Raven's words. She was like, sometimes Ru is just on a Sunday or Saturday driving around, she'll see a wig at a wig store, pick it up, come back and tease it up herself and do her Own hair sometimes. So, okay,

[Trinity The Tuck]

you know what?

[Monet X Change]

So maybe this, maybe Ru sat on Sunday afternoon watching Catching up on Love is Blind and was just at home in her chair twirling up this wig. I was like, oh, I'm gonna wear this wig to the show on Monday. Who knows?

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah. She said, sam Starr's a Christian here, closer to God.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, let's go into the first girl, which was Joey J. Let's read these lyrics. The gay ass bitch bout to the gay ass bitch about to total these hoes read me cause I'm gay bitch I should rainbows no one took the crown not a single title holder Sugarcane can you move? All I see is them shoulders bleach blonde bad billed Bic Buick of the bitches on fumes broke down getting pulled out of the ditches Big back Paddy whack give that bitch a muzzle and aarp Meta Mucil by the guzzle Jazzy don't laugh, he's giving cliffhanger. The mug is giving Fish Angler best line. You tried to do a flip but you did a flop. Kennedy, slow down. I think, I think I heard your hip hop Sam star going far mess trying to read me in a borrowed dress. Oh, that's a reference to the tuck. My time is up. I hope I won't be missed.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Rude.

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[Monet X Change]

Who the fuck is this? Honestly, Joey went. I was watching this episode. I was like. Literally, I was like, oh. I was like, that was so good. Joey J killed this Joey.

[Trinity The Tuck]

They robbed her.

[Monet X Change]

I agree.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I agree, girl. This was the best. Not only it was the best for sure lyrics. Also, she was in full control of how she wrapped it, the way she looked. Fuck. And I love Michelle. Fuck Michelle for her critiques. And we'll get into that. I'm sure of her outfit. Her hair looks amazing. I mean, she was immaculate. It was immaculate. I was like this. She was giving All Stars winner energy.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I have to tell y', all, throughout Joey J's entire performance of this, I was like, oh, my God, I cannot believe Joy J was rapping this. I thought she was. I thought she killed it. I even I, I, I threaded or we don't say tweet. How do we say? I guess threaded? I. I posted a thread and I was like, Joey J, like, killed. Cause I was so impressed at everything you said. Like, she had complete command of the stage. Like, she was in control the entire time. And she, she delivered that shit so good. Joey J killed this thing. And in my humble opinion, the best of the night.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, I mean, it's just good to see good queer representation.

[Monet X Change]

Finally on Drag Race.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Finally, finally gay.

[Monet X Change]

Finally, finally, finally. Oh, yes. Joey J. Killed this next next one. Jay, Kate, do you want to read this one Train, or you want me to do it?

[Trinity The Tuck]

I could do it. Jasmine Kennedy back again, this time with a little more estrogen. Leaving none for the girls. Like we got them in a habit. This is my moment. Time to let these bitches have it. Davenport, what's your claim to fame? Fourth time around? Haven't won the game. We all heard that trade. Didn't like the session. Keep your good eye on me, baby. Learn a lesson. Gay ass bitch. More like bitch ass gay straight up flop. It's Joey J. Heard you're on a. Heard you're on a top. Just not the race. Out of the 13 girls, you got 12th place. Sam, great gowns, beautiful gowns. Just ashamed they're Trinity's. Hand me downs. Never had a sweet tooth. Ha. Never has. Rue, sugar and Hershey. It's chocolate, boo. I mean, the. The best. The best read was Sam's.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I think Sam's was the best one. And I did like the Kennedy keep a good eye on me because everyone knows Kennedy has a wandering eye, which I think was funny. Oh. Oh, that.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I didn't get that till just now, but yes, that. That is funny. This was. This was fine. It was. It was fine. It was kind of what I expected of Jasmine. She. And she looked a little Dr. Seuss.

[Monet X Change]

A little Dr. Seuss.

[Trinity The Tuck]

This would be very musical, to be honest. This would probably be about the level of what my rap would be because, you know, she's not a raptress. Okay. But it was fine. It was fine.

[Monet X Change]

Also, you know that you have ascended to. To Drag Race legendary fame when you are mentioned several times in a season and you are not even there, Bitch, you are constantly being referenced.

[Trinity The Tuck]

You know, I was getting my life this episode because literally every girl was mentioning something to do with me. But I'll set the record straight in a bit after we get done with this. But girl, there this show is always referencing where are the jokes? I call shade so I, you know, they can't get rid of me.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I thought this was fine. I thought that it was giving very seussical, musical and, you know, a lot of these. I mean, apparently everyone got someone to write their rap for them besides Hershey, which there's no harm, no foul, like go off. But sometimes you can tell that just wasn't Jasmine's voice. Just like when it was Morgan's Bracket And I said, and before I knew anyone wrote it, Bob and I were talking about it. I was like, this doesn't sound like Morgan's voice. And, like, sometimes, like, when you. Like, anytime. Trinity and I have done our things. It's been our voice. We have did our lyrics on the show, and it sounds like us for the good and the bad, right? When it was bad, when it wasn't, you know, whatever. So I appreciate hearing. I think if you're gonna work with a writer, it should be a writer who understands you as opposed to just putting references to you. It should sound like you, but that's just me. And I can hear that this does not sound like Jasmine. Like someone else wrote it, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And someone said, sorry, I don't like to sound like Bob. Peyton Ricci said, what are y' all thoughts on bringing lyrics from home? I think. And I would like. I think it's fine to bring lyrics from home. I just think it should sound more like you. Because, let's be honest, like, the show is at a level where the girls are scared to have a bad lyric because y' all won't let them live it down for the next decade. So girls are afraid to be vulnerable and trying the show because the fans make them feel like they're a piece of shit. They can't rap. Ugh.

[Trinity The Tuck]

You. You.

[Monet X Change]

You are a horrible rapper. You should kill yourself. You bad rapping, losing bitch. So people are afraid to be vulnerable on the show because of the fan base. So I'm like, if you. If you. If it is a blanket to bring lyrics from home to do it, sure. But, you know, I just think it should just sound more like the person.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I. I just wish everybody would realize that this is more of a reality TV show than it is a straight up fair competition. Not saying it's not fair, but it's not like it's. That's not the number one objective here. The number one objective of Drag Race and any reality competition show is to fulfill a storyline of whatever it is that for the end goal. So if these girls want to have a good moment, and it's within the rules. Yeah, girl, bring. Bring lyrics, bring roast jokes, bring patterns, whatever it is that you need. You're. You bring looks. You don't make all your looks there. So, you know what's. What's the song lyric.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I agree.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Cause you still have to either deliver it or don't.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly. Yeah. Also, Jasmine's outfit was pretty. Like, I was like, girl, that's. I mean, it was fine. She was like a. I don't know what the hell she was. She like, she, she wrapped in some kelp from a fucking kelp forest.

[Trinity The Tuck]

But you know, she, she's, she's got her, her, her nude tigo bitties. She's trying to show off the body, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Those are not tickle bitties. Those are bee stings, girl. You see, you see her little ass titties, which, which by the way, love little ass titties. If I was, if I was to transition, I think I would get little, little beads things too. I don't think I want like, H's. I would probably like a nice 38B for me.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, I think she, I think her, she's very proportionate, I think.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity The Tuck]

From what I could tell, her boobs are beautiful. Yeah.

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[Trinity The Tuck]

So good, so good, so good.

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[Trinity The Tuck]

So I my thought of this, this is a great example of. The lyrics are kind of all over the place and they're okay. The lyrics are okay. The thing about Kennedy is the way that she wrapped it and the way she sold it. I loved her performance. I, I couldn't even understand all of her lyrics because sometimes when things are being wrapped, it's just hard to comprehend as they're going because it's so fast. But yeah, some standouts were really good. I, I loved the, the, the comparison to not, not Hershey Chocolate but she's a pork chop. I loved the Jasmine thing about like the she's no kin to me. She's a mini me girl Sam Starr and a Lost in her mama's things. And I like the last line about, who the fuck is this booger? What happened to Sugar? It was just the way that she sang it, so I liked it. But, like, just looking at the lyrics, it was, like, kind of all over the place.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I think that Kennedy. What Kennedy will always shine to, your earlier point is her delivery of this and her. The performance of it. I think her performance, she, like, was. She was great. She was electric to look at on stage, so I think that helped sell, sell her. Sell, sell the rap, even though. Even though all the lyrics weren't the best. But I agree with you. I love. I love the pork chop line. I love the. The booger sugar line. And. Yeah. Jay, what do you have to say?

[Jay]

What do you think? What do you think for a rap and roast as opposed to, like, a girl group challenge or a regular roast? The metric by which the judges determine who does well, because at the end of the day, it's still a roast, Right? So you still want to be savage. You still want to get reads in. But then to Trini's point, Kennedy bodied the performance. So at what point are you like, okay, well, you were so good here, we're going to let these tired reads slide because you were so good. Like, where. Where do you feel is the appropriate way to judge these girls on that?

[Trinity The Tuck]

If you make Ru would laugh.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. It's never that hard to fucking do. Rua will fucking laugh at anything.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah. That's literally the metric for anything at Drag Race is if you make. If you can make Ru laugh, that girl win. Like, that's literally. That's all you have to do is in any thing, make Ru laugh. I think also for girl groups, they're not always funny. Like, you know, sometimes. Actually, more often than not, the girl groups are. Are more themed, but not usually funny.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I don't know. I would agree with that. Yeah. I don't know where the exact line is that they let the performance compensate for the source, the subject material. But, yeah, I think that's what we're all doing. We're trying to find where that is. And I think because Kennedy's performance was good, I was forgiving some of the lyrics because her performance and her energy on stage was nice.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And, yeah. Let's go on to Hershi lacourgitay

[Trinity The Tuck]

now, Mama Rue. We need to have a conversation in this. Is this a competition or a vacation? The girls here looking real bizarre. So let's get it started with these chocolate bars. Girl Joey J finally put on a wig. First gay contestant or just a British sig. And you can't read Suga in this age of politics because you know what they say, Protect the bricks. Now, Jasmine, this one's gonna be similar. You're going halfway, then no one remembers you. Sam's cute, but she's still gotta go. Have you seen her in a battle? Sis performs like a so ops. Like, I don't know what that means.

[Monet X Change]

No, sis. Sis. Sis performs like I sew. Oops.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Oh. Oh, I get it. Kennedy likes to dance and buck, but always runner up. And it must really suck. Auntie is the oldest, but I ain't alarmed. I'm about to send her pack in. Fourth time won't be a charm.

[Monet X Change]

I like the. I like this.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Some of the lyrics are. See, I'm going to disagree with a lot of people here. Some of the lyrics, I feel like the first half is strong, the second half is weak. And I absolutely hate what she's wearing. I think her cadence and the way she wrapped it was probably the most genuine of, like, if somebody was actually a rapper. This is more believable. I did not like this performance, really.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so I like what I didn't like about this outfit. I like this outfit from the, like, waist up. Well, not the titties. I don't know. Her titties are. Girl.

[Trinity The Tuck]

They're like a completely different color.

[Monet X Change]

Girl. She wearing Bob's titties. She's wearing Bob's titties. But, yeah, the titties were too dark for her. But I do like her energy and her vibe. Right. I like the sunglasses with the ponytail and. And they're like. I think. I think it looks good. I think these lyrics were good. And she was the only one who actually wrote her lyrics. And I'm gonna give that extra point. I'm sorry. I'm gonna give extra points because she sat down and she really wrote this herself as opposed to getting a ghostwriter. And I think I just love some of the. Some of the. Some of the hidden meanings here. Like, British cig. Like, calling Joey J a fag. I thought that was. Someone said, explain that to me a British cigarette. They call them fags. They're like, can I. Can I. Could I. Could I bomb a fag from you, bae? Like, so. I think that was clever. Is that a read, though? No, I don't. No, she said it's not a read. But every. Everything doesn't have to be like a scalping, scolding read.

[Jay]

It's a roast but it's a roast.

[Monet X Change]

But in a roast, in a real

[Jay]

read, beer was Protect the bricks.

[Monet X Change]

But any. But any roast you go to, every joke is not, like. Is not gonna, like, scalp everyone. You have jokes that some are just, like. Just, like, regular jokes just to, like, get you through the set. The entire set can't be this. You have to have, like, peaks and valleys in it.

[Trinity The Tuck]

For me, it's not more about, like, if it was a read or not. It's more like, I don't want to have to think about it. Like, this is going. It's going so fast. I don't want. I don't need to. I don't need somebody to decipher for me later on what you said. Like, if it's in the moment, I need to know. I didn't get the sewing thing till you just explained it to me. The British Sig I did get, but it took me a second the first time I heard it. I just personally feel like the first half of the record roast is strong. The second half of the roast is not. What she wore was not good. And for me, this was one of the lower half of the. Probably bottom three to me.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah.

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[Monet X Change]

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[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I think. I think. I think also because she was.

[Trinity The Tuck]

But also. I want to say this, too. I want to say this, too. Everybody did good to me. Everybody did good. I'm saying if I had to, like, like, categorize, like, rank everyone, I think I. I don't think this was bad. I just. I. I think everybody did good, But I'm just comparing.

[Monet X Change]

And also, she had the best cadence and the best flow, in my opinion.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Like, she did that.

[Monet X Change]

She did. Yeah. Like, she. Like, she sounded like.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I would probably put her third or fourth for me.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Okay. Let's go to Ms. Sugar Cane. I was gonna be nice, but y' all poke the queen now. Now it reads and rhymes. I'm a roast machine so buckle up, divas, I'm serving pain no, this ain't dessert. This is Death by Sugarcane. Joey's first. Yeah, we get it. She's gay. But I think it's time we pray the J away. Or is it a gay or the J or whatever? Jasmine. Hi. So glad you're here. A moment of silence. Hey, Just like your career. Kennedy Bucks and flips with grace should do anything to keep you from seeing her face. Face. Y' all look confused. That's not Trinity. The tuck again. That's that star and her mama's old stuff. Hershey's Drag Sweet like a Snack. Or is. Or.

[Jay]

Or.

[Monet X Change]

Or is her she serving it? Wait, why did Jay writer like Jacob Wright? Or is her what Hershey?

[Trinity The Tuck]

Or is her she serving it? That because her name is like Hershey and it's like her she.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, got it. Serving it. Okay. Shug's so nice. Yeah. What's she gonna say? Joke's on you. I could do this all day. I thought this was the worst performance of the night.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, I think it is.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, why didn't show up?

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, this is pretty weak. I will say it was charming and cute the way she performed it, but 1000% agree with you that this was the worst lyrics and performance.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I thought it was the weakest of the bunch. I was like, in my opinion, by far. I think everyone, like, none of these were particularly like, you know, smart or whatever. I. I thought this was. This was just me bad.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

No, and also, what is this outfit? It's like a. It's like a Chanel boucle two piece thing. Like, she's like a school girl. I. I don't know what's going on with the pigtails.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I can't stand when people just wear a regular old bra, too. I cannot stand when somebody just pulls a regular old bra bustier bra that you got from Walmart and you. There's one little tiny rhinestone at the bottom. Girl.

[Monet X Change]

Girl.

[Trinity The Tuck]

What?

[Monet X Change]

And last but not least, we have Sam Star Samantha before we do the lyric.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Girl, this outfit is awful. I hate this outfit. And I get it. Like, you know, like, a lot of people in the south specifically wear camo with orange. I don't like this. I don't like this. I'm about to roast these hoes in my. In my country ass accent. Try it with me. They won't make it out. The bracket points to. On to the board. I got another basket. I'm killing these hoes. Rue better get a casket. Jasmine. Sure, her moves pack a punch but her mug is so hard. I call her Captain Crunch. That was good. Suga is more filler than a fast food patty. Looks are giving broke sugar Needs a sugar daddy. Joey really thinks that his looks are grand but he's giving water down Go and irrigate the land. Hershey on deck. Stepping up to the bat. But wait a minute, y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Who the hell is that? Kennedy's back. I'm really confused. Rue slept on you twice. Still about to hit snooze. My name is Sam. Been a star from the start. Good luck keeping up, girls. Bless your heart. This was Okay, I would say this was like in the middle.

[Monet X Change]

Middle.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I do. I think this was probably like the sugar canes.

[Monet X Change]

Irrigate the land is giving water down Go irrigate the land sent me to orbit. I said what?

[Trinity The Tuck]

I think this is definitely better than sugar canes. I would say. I would say the order. Was this the last one?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's the last one. Yeah.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I would say the order would be Joey J. Kennedy. I will give it to hershey. So Hershey. 3. I would say Sam, then Jasmine, and then Suga. That's what I would say.

[Jay]

This is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, no, I. My order would be Joey J. Hershey Kennedy.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Jasmine, Sam, Suga.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Okay, hold on, wait, hold on, wait. Let me think, let me think, let me think, let me think what they wore. Okay. Joey J, hands down, rap way performed outfit. Slam, duck number one. Number two. Kennedy. Her lyrics were okay. Performance was amazing. I loved her outfit for this because it just was camp. So, yeah, I say two. Hershey. Her lyrics, some of the first half was good. Second half wasn't. Her outfit was absolutely atrocious, but her cadence was really good. So.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Three.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, but yeah, and then Sam, awful outfit. I think. Think half of her lyrics are okay. It's kind of like Hershey. They're kind of like the similar. I hated their outfits. Their. Their lyrics are Okay. I. I will say I. I think that Sam had energy on stage, so I would put her. Yeah, I would put her next. Jasmine hated her outfit. Her lyrics were okay. She performed okay. And then Sugar was just. Yeah, her outfit was awful. The lyrics were not good. She was cute, though.

[Monet X Change]

It was cute. Yeah.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Again, nobody was horrible to me. I didn't think anybody was horrible. I thought everybody. It was cute. I enjoyed the whole thing.

[Monet X Change]

No, I thought sugarcane was quite horrible. And I want her to never do it ever again. Never again, please. But I will say Samsar has my favorite lyric of the night. Not because it's good, because I think they're irrigate the land part. I want that on my tombstone when I die. I want them to write, but Monet was giving water down. Go irrigate the land.

[Trinity The Tuck]

She's from the country. She's from the country. You know, she is from a farm. Okay? That's what they do.

[Monet X Change]

The lad was crazy. Okay, wait, Jay, someone wants to know what. What is your order?

[Jay]

Oh, God. Joey J.

[Monet X Change]

What is it?

[Jay]

Joey. Joey J.

[Podcast Sponsor Voice]

First.

[Monet X Change]

Huh?

[Jay]

Jasmine second.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Jasmine.

[Monet X Change]

Jasmine second. Okay. You must be sorry.

[Jay]

Based. Based on lyrics. Jasmine second. Ken Kennedy, Hershey, Suga, Sam.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Oh, no. Jay you got to get out of here.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, she's drunk. Jay has been drinking again.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Jasmine up that far. That's crazy.

[Jay]

Her verse is better than Kennedy's, Hershey's, sugars, or Sam's. It's not even remote. I'm not drunk. It's not. It's not even close.

[Monet X Change]

Well, then you're high.

[Jay]

And this. This is. To the people who say that I'm not allowed to comment. This is the one thing that I. I absolutely do have background in this. I did this. I did for 20 years. As we verse, hands down, you're telling me her verse is better?

[Monet X Change]

Is.

[Jay]

Is not better than Hershey's?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Hershey's. Hershey's is better than Jasmine's, in my opinion. But. But it's not just lyrics. You're only looking at lyrics. We're looking at the whole thing. We're looking at performance and lyrics, Hersh's performance and delivery. So that's how we're choosing it. Not just lyrics for you.

[Jay]

Right? We talked about the whole thing about. What's the criteria? Yeah, for me, the. The criteria is the read. I think Hershey's perform. Hershey and Kenny's performance and Joey's were the top three performance on stage.

[Trinity The Tuck]

All I'm gonna say is the only thing I agree with either one of y' all is that Joey J. Won hands down. The rest of these girls could just go home because, like, Joey J. To me, they should have just crowned her right there.

[Jay]

Does the Runway count?

[Trinity The Tuck]

Count? Yes, to me.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I think so, too.

[Trinity The Tuck]

And. And we'll get into. I loved Joey's outfit.

[Monet X Change]

So if we were all we. If the three of us were on a judging panel together, how the we would decide? I guess we all know Joey's winning. Who. Who are we putting in top two? Well, whoever.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Whoever's the RuPaul, I guess.

[Jay]

Well, we all agree Hershey and Kennedy killed the performance.

[Monet X Change]

But, Jay, Trinity, you're segmenting it. Trinity and I are looking at the whole thing. You're only looking at one aspect. As a judge. You have to look at the whole thing.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah. Jay, whenever you're. Whenever you're in a competition, you like, you're supposed to look at Trinity.

[Monet X Change]

Trinity has 20 years in pageants, so Trinity gonna tell you about. You have music. Trinity is patches. So she's telling how you judge, baby.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah. In competition, you. You. It's consistency.

[Monet X Change]

Who.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Who. Who is the best overall? Not just best at one category, because in pageantry, you can win evening gown and not even place top Three, talk your shit, Trinity.

[Monet X Change]

Gather Jay. Gather Jay's ass.

[Trinity The Tuck]

But I agree with you, Jay and Monet, that Joey J was number one.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, let's get. Okay, wait, let me get back to my notes really quick.

[Jay]

Yeah, gather yourself.

[Monet X Change]

So they get done with thing. And they're back.

[Trinity The Tuck]

He's roasting. He's roasting.

[Monet X Change]

Over here, Jay.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Okay, Jay's getting that. I live.

[Monet X Change]

Um, when they get back to the workroom after this performance, the next day, they're back in the workroom. And just quick note. I have. Kennedy feels like an outsider because no one is strategizing with her. Um, but she's also not taking the initiative to strategize. To strategize with other people. I'm like, bitch, be the strategy you want to see in the world. Don't wait for everybody to come to you. You go do it. Just because you old and you done Drag Race four times, you think people could just come to you? Bitch, work for what you want.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, I mean, I, I, I. One thing I know about Kennedy, I know I. I've known her for years and years and years. Even before Drag Race, before either of us were on Drag Race, when we were both competing. I competed with her one time at Miss USA. I didn't make the top 10, and she did, and she was fabulous. Anyway, she's. Kennedy is as much of a front as she puts on as being, like, strong, and she is. She also is very sensitive, and I think that she picks up things that. And. And maybe takes things personal when they're not personal sometimes. And so that's probably what it is, is that. Yeah, yeah, she's reading into. And. And I get it, because in this kind of competition, when you're relying on other people, you do take things personal.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Well, Trinity, you said. You said that you're gonna set the record straight. Like, how do you feel about. Everyone is saying that Sam Star is wearing all your things. Is. Is that. Is that what you were talking about?

[Trinity The Tuck]

Oh, so most of the stuff that Sam Wore on season 17 was not my stuff, really? Almost. Almost all of it was Chantel's stuff. Chantel sparkles. But Sam didn't borrow it. She bought all that stuff from Chantel. So it ended. I know it was like, hand me downs, but. But Sam bought it. You know, she. She paid. She paid for those things. And again, girl, she did it smart. She made the top four, and she didn't have to go broke doing it. And, you know. You know, I will tell you that these fans are atrocious where they go after these girls. And now this time, she. She didn't ask me for shit for All Stars.

[Monet X Change]

Because you probably gonna be this again.

[Jay]

If you were. If you were my drag mother and I was going on Drag Race, why would I not go in your closet?

[Trinity The Tuck]

I agree.

[Jay]

It doesn't make any sense. Like, you have probably some of the best runways and clothes from anyone on Drag Race. And why would I go spend 20 to 60k like some of these girls when I could just borrow 100 from.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, because that's because these people want you to go broke for Drag Race. If you don't come out with what they think is a $5,000 outfit every fucking episode, then they think you're not trying. You don't want it. But like, yeah, Trinity has such a great package. Trinity has iconic Ron. The show we have off the show. So why not, if something works for my season, get it from my drag mother. Like, what? Yeah, it was wild that she gets read for that. That.

[Trinity The Tuck]

But also her Runway package was sickening because most of it was Chantel stuff. And girl, this is why I don't get. Drag Race needs to cast Chantel because, girl, these looks her and her husband made so she could do it again.

[Monet X Change]

Kill it. She would kill it.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Would kill it. I think that's probably why they haven't put her on girl. Cuz she'd be. She just walked through.

[Monet X Change]

I remember that. That thing you wore on that Australian tour that Chantel made that. That mysterious.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, the zombie look coat and stuff. Yeah, that was Ethan and Chantel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Let's get into these runways. Jai up first, Joey J. What was the category or. The category was ladies. Ladies who lunch. Yep. This hair. I love this hair. I will. I would wear this down. This looks great.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I loved the whole thing.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. No, I love. I love her. I love her entire outfit. My only thing was that blue flower was such. Was so awesome. From the. Why was the flower a navy and the thing was sky blue. That's the only thing. Otherwise, I like this outfit.

[Trinity The Tuck]

The only thing is because the fabric is marbled and the deepest parts of the marble was navy. And so she picked up her accessories. Like her shoe is navy. The hat, I don't really love the hat, but I get it because it's ladies who lunch, and that's very. That kind of thing. I am okay with the nude. I probably would have picked something else.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I agree.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Made it more open. But I do the fact this suit. I can see you in this suit in. In just A suit.

[Monet X Change]

I would wear this. But, yeah, I agree. I think the nude blends into her. Like, you can't really tell what it is. If it was another color, then I think you could see the. The details on it, but because it all, like, kind of blends into, like, it looks like it's just. Just obviously it's new. It's supposed to disappear with her skin. And I don't think that was. That was. That was smart.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Other than that, I love this outfit and her mug. Bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Beautiful. The girl, Joey J. Is really impressed with me. I'm so happy that. I'm so glad to have Joey J back on my screen. She's killing it. Up next, Jasmine Kennedy. This was sick. I fucking love this. She looked like the mother from. Is this Cinderella? The original Cinderella.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Oh, okay.

[Monet X Change]

Like the evil stepmother. I think she looks great. I love going super classic and going into this period, this period look for this Runway, and I think she looks great. I love this outfit.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I hate it. What now? Now, Now? I'm saying that biasly because I just don't like this time period of fashion. I, I, I feel like it's just so heavy and so much. I will say, to give Jasmine credit, everything is immaculate. The hair is exact. That time period. The. The outfit is an exact. The way that the train lays is immaculate. It is made extremely well. The fascinator is fierce.

[Monet X Change]

I love the fascinating.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I just don't love, like, this time period of fashion. That's just me being biased, though. But overall, is this great? Yes. I just don't like it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I mean, I. So Peyton Richie said, I would hate to eat lunch in this. I agree. Eating this. Eating in this would not be great, but I.

[Trinity The Tuck]

But this was the society that created the luncheon.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So she did her research, and I love when a queen doing this research and work that went into the look, not just, you know, just throwing some clothes on your body that someone designed. I think this was great. I thought this was one of my favorite looks of the evening. Let's go on to Kennedy. Boo boo boot Boo boo the fool. This looks fucking crazy. And I don't care. It's bugle beads. I don't care. It's expensive. RuPaul tried to justify that when Michelle said something and RuPaul said, Do you not see the bugle beads, bitch? I don't care. It looks. It does not look good. Like, I don't think this looks good. I hated this.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I love this. What? Yeah. So in pageantry, there's a category in certain Pageants called sportswear. And sportswear is like, for example, one of the most prestigious pageants that has this category is Ms. Black Universe. Ms. Black Universe is held in Atlanta every October.

[Monet X Change]

It is

[Trinity The Tuck]

just as prestigious as Miss Continental. And a' Keria C. Davenport is a former.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, it works. Yeah.

[Trinity The Tuck]

So. So this pageant is a fashion pageant. Like, you go in. This is a sportswear. And the sportswear category was based off of, like, a ladies who lunch, but, like. Like church ladies or like, what you would do after a sun. Like Sunday church, you would go, lunch. That's kind of the idea of what a lady whose lunch is. This is exact. That the only thing I don't care for is the hair. The hair looks a little messy for the look to be so put together. One thing I love about Kennedy is she. She's obviously done sportswear before. From head to toe. Other than the hair, everything matches, even the shoe. And that is important when you're. When you're looking for sportswear.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I guess I need to. I hate it. Even the fascinator is like a fucking headphone. Like, why is a fascinator on this side of your face? A fascinator should be fascinating. Fastened to your head, to your hair. I. I did not like this. I. And also this, like, sequin top. Like what? Just like. I don't know, girl.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I like this. I do like it.

[Monet X Change]

Let's go on to Hershey La Courgete again with this two. This titty bib. Also, like, I'm sorry. If you found a black one, just take your foundation, get a lighter one, and put your foundation on top of it. That's what I did, y'. All.

[Trinity The Tuck]

This is another thing. This is what I'm talking about, though, with. With tights and with. With stuff like this. People that put out products into the world need to get it fucking together. There are more shades than beige, tan, and, you know, beige. You know what I mean? Like, there's beige. Yeah. There's. So people. There's not just one or two colors of black people. There's not just one or two colors of people that have more yellow undertone or more red undertone. People need to. If you're gon to have products, you need to offer products in. In every fucking shade. Yeah. That is just a store. An eyesore.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I mean, other than. Other than the titties. I love. I think this is. This is very beautiful. I think this is very gorgeous. I think she. I think her face looks beautiful. And I love.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I love.

[Monet X Change]

I love this color on her, actually, but the titty bib like this, this. Jay, can you please put this image in next to me? Be like, what are you talking about? This image that on the right of just. It looks like someone is. It looks like a different person. It's just so like the Walking Dead. The Walking Dead.

[Trinity The Tuck]

It's so gray.

[Monet X Change]

She's got frostbitten right here.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, it's so gray compared to her. Like, warmed, actual skin.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah. This is. Other than that, I think this look was great.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I think one. She has one of the best mugs of the season. I've worked with her a lot here in la and she's so airbrushed. She's so beautiful. I fucking hate this one. I don't like. It's. Again, it's in that time period of garments. I don't like. 2. Anybody that knows me knows I absolutely hate satin. I hate satin.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you don't hate satin?

[Trinity The Tuck]

Satin looks cheap in its ugly. This color looks great on her. My positive is she looks beautiful in the face.

[Monet X Change]

Let's go on to Sugar Cane. This bitch is going to make me die. Have diabetes. Because I hate this sugar look. I hate it. I hate it. I don't know what I'm looking at. This ruffle coat thing is fucking weird. I don't like. And she's trying to be like, I'm like a young, cool, hip girl going to get lunch. No, you look. You look bad going to lunch. And if you came to lunch wearing this outfit, I would ask you to sit at a different table. Cause I'm embarrassed to sit next to you. I don't like this outfit. I do like her hair. This hair is nice, but even the color, like, doesn't look great on her. And it's like miniskirt with the thing. I think this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I like the outfit, but I don't like it for this category. Right.

[Monet X Change]

So.

[Trinity The Tuck]

So when I'm. I'm gonna judge it based off of that. This does not give me at all Ladies who Lunch. Cause if that was the case, then, like, literally, this doesn't give me sportswear. It doesn't give me the time period of what the origination of Ladies who Lunch is. It's giving me with the hairstyle and the way, like, almost like a drag. J. Lo, like, what a drag queen would think J. Lo would wear to a lunch. You know what I mean? I'm not. Yeah, I like the outfit, but it would be more like for a really good meet and greet or something.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Jay, Pen. I agree. Like, how are you having lunching? This. You are. Every time you go to go get the salt and pepper shaker, you're knocking everything over. Every time you go to dip, girl, you're gonna have mustard, mayonnaise, everything all up in your clothes. Like, what?

[Trinity The Tuck]

That sleeve is gonna be in the crab boil. That sleeve is getting all over the croissant sandwiches with mayonnaise. I mean, yeah, girl, you can't eat soup in this. Like, what are you doing?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, this is a no for me. No, no, no, no, no. And last but not least, we have Samantha Starr, Sam Star, wearing a. It's like a. Obviously a reference to Chanel, but she. But there is stoned out Chanel. What do you think about this look?

[Trinity The Tuck]

I love everything but the hat. I. And I. I do like a hat. I just think that the hat. Hat looks a little. And it could be just because she traveled there with. Looks a little beat up. But the outfit, to me, this looks so luxe. It looks like. What's her name? Legally Blonde goes to lunch. This is another example of. This is sportswear. This is what you would wear in that category in a pageant for ladies who lunch. I love this. This is one of my favorites of the night. Night. Minus the hat.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I love the exaggerated collar and the exaggerated cuffs. I think that was a really smart detail to like, give it to have this, like, grand over the top look. I agree. Because she has. Only other thing I would do is maybe the hair up because she has this, like, ruffle collar here and the hair down. Yeah. Like crunching this up. So I would have done maybe some type of like, fuck the. Fuck the hat and put some type of upped hair to give us more like, volume and space here.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, I agree.

[Monet X Change]

And the dog, I didn't quite. I get. I get the dog, but I didn't get the dog. Like, you know, obviously, I'm sure you've seen in. In here in la, people bring their dogs everywhere. People bring their dog to restaurants. It's too much. But so I get what she's doing. But it was. It seemed like extra for no reasons, in my opinion. But, you know.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah, I think the dog is like, take it or leave it. Like, I think it's a cute. It was cute. A cute gimmick, but I don't think it needed it. But also, I don't think it takes away from it. I think. I think for me, I agree with you. I think this is. This with the hair down is too much. And I don't like the hat, but other than that. Yeah, look good. Good to me.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, the judges. Critiques. So, Michelle, y' all want to rate the runways? What? Oh, you.

[Jay]

You guys ordered the other girls. Do you want to order the runways?

[Monet X Change]

Okay, in my order, I would put Jasmine Kennedy. Jasmine Kennedy, Joey J. Hershey. No. Jasmine Kennedy, Sam, Star Hershey, Joey J. Kennedy, Sugar.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Okay, I'm gonna try to do this unbiasedly because two people wore looks of time periods that I don't like because it was made well, and I can appreciate that all the details were there. I would put Jasmine first, though. I don't like it. I would put aesthetically what I like next. Joey J. So Jasmine, Joey J. Then Sam, then Kennedy, then Suga, and then Hershey. I just. I don't like this. I think it's so atrocious. And the breastplate, I can't get past it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah. Okay, Work. That's a critique. So Michelle Visage, she has officially called her the list of the things she does not like, the Michelle list. And she's adding the Mugler bike corset thing to the list. What do you think about that?

[Trinity The Tuck]

I. Again, I love Michelle. I wish she would. It doesn't revolve around Michelle. It's not. You're. You're inviting artists onto a show to show their art, not to cater to what Michelle likes or doesn't like. People should not be scared to clothe themselves because they're inspired by something based off of, oh, oh, my God, I can't wear green because Michelle will hate it. Girl, get over it. Get over it. Get over these things. Like, who cares cares if you don't. You should be. You should be judging things unbiasedly is what you should be doing. You shouldn't be judging things based off of if it's your taste or not.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, there's that. That's fair. I. But I. I do think I'm also, like. I don't know how often we've seen the Mugler biker thing on Drag Race. I think.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Seen it much. I haven't seen it much. Especially not this. What? This isn't even Mugler. This is like a. Like a off road bike. It's not even even. It's not even a Harley.

[Monet X Change]

It's like a.

[Trinity The Tuck]

It's like a off road, dirt bike kind of theme. And I was done immaculately.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I wore one on Secret Celebrity Drag Race, but that was not Drag Race. I did like my version, which I actually have it right here, actually. One second. When I did Super Secret celebrity drag race. I wore a blue one, which was made very well. I love this outfit. I'm actually going to sell it or give it away to somebody. Does it.

[Jay]

Do you want to give viewers a little backstory on this look?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. This is made by Domino Couture. So this one on my ass.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Oh, wow. You actually got your costume.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. I came to get. And this was the front of it, so it's very. Well, it was very cool.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I remember seeing. This was really cool.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's.

[Jay]

Do you want to tell them what it was originally for?

[Monet X Change]

What was it for? Oh, yeah. This was supposed to be my light up costume for All Stars. Oh, my God. This was supposed to be my light up costume. Thank you. Jay Remembered my whole life. This was supposed to be my light up costume for All Stars 4. I mean, All Stars 7. And he never came through with it. And so that's why I had the backup option of that. I hated that Starry Night thing, but, oh, my God, Jerry forgot. And so it was one of those things, girl. He was supposed to send it. Send it, like the day of leaving, waiting for this costume. Cause this. The headlights lighted, lit up. The ass lit up like, you know, like a car. And he just never sent it. Thank you for reminding me, Jay.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I want to ask you some questions about that if we have time. So why is he just, like, notoriously known for this kind of behavior?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, girl, he is notoriously known for this, but it's just got. It got, like, since the beginning of working Domino, he's always been late, and it's always been a thing. But over the years, it just got really bad. Like, taking money, not responding. It just got bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Has he reached out to you since you blasted him?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God, yes. I haven't said this officially, but he sent me after I posted that video on YouTube. He sent me an email and basically, like, apologizing, saying he's sorry. He wants to make it right. He was like, there are two things I can do. Either I can, like, get on a payment plan and send you $100 a week for X amount of week on payment plan.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Bitch, you already. You sent him the money in full,

[Monet X Change]

and then he's like, that, or I would really like to just make you the outfit and, like, feel like I'm like, I don't trust any of these options. None of these options sound good to me. So I just didn't respond.

[Trinity The Tuck]

You should take him to small claims court. I should honestly just Judge Judy, bitch, Judge fucking Judy.

[Jay]

We can cut this part out if you want, but Door. When Morty was getting ready for all winter, while waiting for looks like that, Domino was also making other looks for Monet that Monet didn't even ask for and would, like, send pictures and, like, videos of. Oh, I made this just in case, you know, for this. I made this, you know, for maybe if this comes up, so do everything else other than the things that Monet had asked to do.

[Monet X Change]

It's weird, girl. What.

[Trinity The Tuck]

What is this? They seem unhinged and a little unscrewed.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. That door is floppy, girl. It is fucking flying off the handle for sure.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Wow.

[Monet X Change]

But, yeah, Jay, I forgot this was for All Stars 7. I fully forgot this was an All Star 7 look.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Well, that is a cool look.

[Monet X Change]

It would have been cool, but. Yeah. And my only other note is that Jamal wanted Suga. He's like, you know, I wish that you would hood write it up more. I was like, girl, do you not know Hallore? She has a whole thing that people think she does blackface. That's. That's right. I was like, this is crazy.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I mean, I did, I did see that video. Girl, I. It's kind of hard to. It's kind of hard to argue with that video.

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I mean, but you know what? I'm white, so, you know, Sugar is not Caucasian, and maybe that just was her natural skin tone at the time. I don't know. Yeah, she does get pretty dark. Dark, like, as a person of color. So I, I, that's not for me to say.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I don't, I don't know anything about this. I don't know where this is from. I don't know anything about her.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I, I think she is part.

[Monet X Change]

I think she might be Puerto Rican.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah. Latin and Native American or, Or indigenous, I think.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I think so, too. Um, so the judges give their critiques, and the top two are Kennedy and Hershey. Do you agree?

[Trinity The Tuck]

Um, no, I, I do agree with Kennedy, but I. Joey J. Should have been up there with Kennedy.

[Jay]

For sure.

[Monet X Change]

I agree. See, I would have put Joey J. And Hershey because I hated Kennedy's Runway so much.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yeah. And I hated Hershey's Runway so much. And, and half her. Her, her lyrics and, And, Yeah, anyway,

[Monet X Change]

yeah, yeah, so they go on lip sync, and it is the, the, the ladies who lunch. And this was a fucking serve. Kennedy tore this shit up. One of the best lip syncs I've seen on Drag Race in years. Amazing.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I mean, girl, Hershey, nobody was even Paying attention to Hershey, girl. First of all, what was she wearing? Yeah, she. She was wearing some. Some teacher outfit.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity The Tuck]

You know, and not even a good teacher outfit. This was like summer school outfit. And then she was giving no emotion in the face. And.

[Monet X Change]

But.

[Trinity The Tuck]

But also, I can. I could. I could tell you're distracted because you're watching Kennedy, too. You're mesmerized by Kennedy, too. You can't even lip sync because you're watching Kennedy.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, girl. Kennedy was giving it. Kennedy was performing the fuck out of this song. It was such a total commitment to the bit, to the character, which also. She looked like a black on Gladys from weapons, but it was such a commitment to this thing and pulling out the bottles and pulling them out and being this drunk. It was so good. And when I saw, dude, it was lip sync, I was jealous. I was like, bitch, for the next 10 years, you can show up and do this number at a bar, not having to buck, split, jump anything and make coins. Doing this number for the rest of your career because of this. Because of dragons. I was jealous because of that.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Well, I'll tell you this, too. If. If no one. If nobody has ever seen Kennedy in a show, she's iconically known for bucking the house down, flips, high kicks, all those things that she does. But Kennedy is the most diverse performer that's out there there. She can sell a ballad standing there better than most people who do ballads. She can dance a house down better than most people who can dance a house down. She can sell a gimmick like this better than most people can sell a gimmick like this. She is so diverse. It is immaculate. It is like what RuPaul said, it's a masterclass in performing. And not only performing, not only selling the bit, but lip syncing. And what people forget is that you have to also be a good lip syncer. That's what they're looking for. You could do all the tricks you want, but if you're not a good lip syncer, that doesn't matter. That's why a great example of one of the best lip syncers from drag race is Ms. Monet X Change. Because not, not only are you a good performer, but you sell every little thing on your lips, and you have to be able to do that. You have to. And she. She was that. It was. It was amazing.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it was great to watch. And I think Rue was. I think all the judges, everyone was just so mesmerized by how incredible she was. And she rightfully Wins the extra point giving her now. Kennedy has four points. Jay Kennedy has four. And. And Hershey has two. And Jasmine has.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Hershey has three.

[Monet X Change]

Jasmine has three.

[Jay]

No, Hershey has three.

[Trinity The Tuck]

She had one point last week.

[Monet X Change]

Hershey and Sam have three each.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Yep.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Um, so, yeah, next week is the final week of this bracket. We'll see who was giving the points at the top of the next episode. And I can't wait to see. Okay, I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna predict. I want to say Kennedy and Sam are going to move on.

[Trinity The Tuck]

I think Kennedy 100% is moving on. I mean, she's just too good. Everything else. Like, like her only downfall said this last week. Her only downfall is sewing.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity The Tuck]

Other than that, she could do everything. So I think Kennedy is 100% in. I would say Joey J. But they. They've just not let her have it. And she has been that good 12 weeks. Yeah. I think it's going to come down to. Yeah, I think it might be Sam.

[Monet X Change]

I think it would be Sam. Could be Sam and Kennedy. Not unless Joey does a Selena next week and she wins the challenge and the lip sync and gets points. Maybe she can. Maybe. We shall see. All right, y', all, this was like a little extra special long episode. You're fucking welcome. That's because when we have Trinity here, the vibe here is so nice and kind and it's fun to do. Cause Trinity is here, you know, so I. So we just can just talk to each other forever. So we'll see if bitter the drag queen is back next week and we have to fucking suffer through that shit. But what we will go on to do is go is go on do a Patreon exclusive for Untucked right now, starting at a Patreon. Although again, these fucking boring ass bitches. There's not really much to talk about, but we'll talk about what there is. So we'll see y' all over on the Patreon for Untucked. Bye.

[Trinity The Tuck]

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