Sibling Watchery - Drag Race Season 8 - Episode 10

Summary

Sibling Rivalry: Sibling Watchery – Drag Race Season 8, Episode 10

Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Date: August 2, 2022
Episode Theme: A retrospective, unfiltered, and very funny review of the RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 8 finale—from the red carpet to the crowning, with deep-dive commentary on runway looks, finale performances, and delicious behind-the-scenes drama.

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Episode Overview

In this installment of Sibling Watchery, Drag Race icons Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change go gown-deep on the legendary Season 8 finale. Expect expert-level drag analysis, honest critiques of the queens’ finale looks, a lot of teasing over past and present drama, and firsthand stories about what it really feels like to compete (or step down) on Drag Race’s biggest night.

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1. Warm-up Banter & Podcast Chemistry

[01:07]

• Bob and Monét immediately banter about business naming conventions ("LLC" vs "Enterprises"), interspersed with playful teasing about each other’s paperwork and brands.
• The two set their lively, familiar tone—both loving and shady.

  “At Bob the Drag Queen LLC, we believe in free the nipple!” – Bob ([01:12])

• Monét admits Bob’s signature “unbothered” facial expression drives her crazy:

  “This expression from you irks me like a fucking bee in my goddamn bonnet, though.” – Monét ([02:00])

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2. Viola Davis, Stan Culture & Patreon Plugs

[02:32]

• Off-topic delight: Bob clarifies he’s NOT a Viola Davis stan, despite the rumors, and details where his stanning truly lies (“Whoopi Goldberg, I go bananas!”).
• They plug their Patreon, video podcast, and Discord. Bob jokes about Monét never joining their Discord, sparking a hilariously petty exchange.

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3. Finale Behind-the-Scenes: What it Feels Like to Step Down vs Trying to Win

[06:44]

• Both hosts reminisce about attending Drag Race finales, either as finalists or giving up their titles (Bob as reigning Queen, Monét as Miss Congeniality).
  • Being backstage when not competing is described as “calm and relaxing,” contrasting with the “most stressful” experience when you’re a finalist.

    “When you’re still trying to win RuPaul’s Drag Race, it is the most stressful episode you can do.” – Bob ([07:48])

• Bob recounts the exhaustion of rehearsing for the finale during DragCon and the chaos of celebrity makeovers with Billy Bush.

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4. Detailed Red Carpet Runway Rundown

[10:10–29:00] Bob and Monét critique every queen’s red carpet look with their signature blend of affection, insight, and brutal honesty.

Notable Commentary & Quotes:

• Dax ExclamationPoint:

  “People who worked for the show kept mistaking her for RuPaul!” – Bob ([10:55])

• Layla McQueen:

  “I’m into the baby tits. It’s just interesting… an interesting concept to have your brassiere made of baby doll heads.” – Bob ([12:04])
  “Layla’s face is one of the most stunning in Drag Race ever.” – Monét ([12:50])

• Cynthia Lee Fontaine:

  “It’s not my favorite. The blatant, obvious nude illusion part... takes you out of the fantasy.” – Monét ([16:27])

• Acid Betty:

  “One of the best looks of the night. Stunning.” – Bob ([18:44])

• Robbie Turner:

  “The face, literally the opposite of visually stunning.” – Monét ([18:56])

• Thorgy Thor:

  “I’m very intrigued by this look... a catsuit with a bathing suit over it.” – Bob ([20:01])

• Derrick Barry:

  “She finally figured out those fucking eyebrows. She finally got them... eight months later.” – Bob ([21:09])

The hosts note how Kim Chi’s finale gown was so vast she almost couldn't walk down the aisle—sparking Bob to adamantly refuse any “special entrances” that would position finalists unequally ([53:13–56:17]).

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5. Runway Logistics, Drag Travel Tips & “Costuming for Gigs”

[24:35]

• Bob and Monét swap practical advice for keeping wigs, shoes, and costumes fresh while touring.

  “Let what you are wearing, everything you are wearing, be bone dry before you pack it away.” – Bob ([25:14])

• The conversation turns to funny anecdotes about drag queens concealing their careers from hookups ("I'm a costumer at a Broadway show" – Monét).

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6. Finale Performances: Songs, Dancing, and Choreography

[29:03]

• Bob, Kim Chi, and Naomi Smalls' custom songs get a deep dive.

  “I had the best performance. Naomi had the best song.” – Bob ([38:04])

Choreo Commentary:

• Bob admits going “full competition mode,” feeling Kim Chi was his biggest threat due to her fandom ([34:39]).
• Both agree crafting individual songs for each finalist is Drag Race at its best, even musing whether the format should return ([37:11]).

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7. Hot Takes on Past Winners’ Step-Down Looks

[39:10–62:48] Breakdown of all previous Drag Race winners’ finale looks, with everything from references (Madonna, John Galliano, Mugler) to backstage anecdotes.

• Bebe Zahara Benet: “You have to be at 1000 every time.”
• Raja: “Visibly lit... she was tipping the bottle, girl.”
• Bianca Del Rio: “Only thing I don't like about the dress is the bottom.” – Bob ([47:53])
• Violet Chachki:

  “One of the best looks in the history of RuPaul’s Drag Race.” – Bob ([61:10]) “People for years were like, how is anyone going to top this?” – Bob

Notable: Simone’s (controversial) step-down jeans and tank top look sparks a discussion on Drag Race fashion innovation and fan backlash ([62:00–66:52]).

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8. Crowning Drama: How Finales Are Actually Edited

[66:52–68:20]

• Bob reveals insider info: each possible winner’s crowning is fully edited; even most producers and editors don’t know who will air ([67:08]).
• Bob recalls his nerves on crowning night, particularly after hearing the crowd’s reaction when RuPaul polled for “Team Kim:”

  “The roof went off the place. It just really affected me. I was like, I might not win Drag Race...” – Bob ([68:20])

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9. Finale Night Drama: The LED Wall Fiasco

[52:26–56:17]

• Kim’s oversized dress nearly prompted a special entrance, elevating her above the others. Bob recounts with comedic flair how he refused to accept any break in “equity,” threatening to walk on his own if Kim was given ‘Viola Chachki’ treatment.
• Naomi Smalls confirms by phone that Bob was “the first person I ever met who’d just say ‘No, we’re not doing that,’” crediting Bob’s assertiveness with keeping everything fair ([64:37]).

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10. Personal Anecdotes, Favorite Looks & Closing Thoughts

• Hosts discuss the post-finale life of their finale dresses (some are now in museums).
• Celebrate the congeniality and emotional support among the top three.
• Announce upcoming coverage of All Stars 7 and tease unreleased behind-the-scenes audio from Monet's prep for the season ([71:09–72:58]).

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “When you’re still trying to win RuPaul’s Drag Race, it is the most stressful episode you can do.”
  – Bob the Drag Queen ([07:48])

• “I’m into the baby tits. It’s just interesting… an interesting concept to have your brassiere made of baby doll heads.”
  – Bob the Drag Queen ([12:04])

• “This dress is one of those dresses that people for years were like, how’s anyone going to top this?”
  – Bob on Violet’s finale look ([61:43])

• “If you take your wig off your head while it is still warm… your wig will come out rancid and will be shaped like the Tupperware.”
  – Bob’s drag travel wisdom ([25:45])

• “You were the first person I ever met that was like that. That’s why I love you so much.”
  – Naomi Smalls on Bob standing up for fairness in staging ([64:46])

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Essential Timestamps

• Finale outfit reviews: [10:10–29:00]
• Choreo & song performance breakdown: [29:03–38:10]
• Step-down look analyses (Drag Race winners): [39:10–62:48]
• Backstage/procedural drama (LED wall, editing secrets): [52:26–58:16]; [66:52–68:20]
• Crowd reaction & emotional aftermath: [68:20–70:34]
• All Stars 7 coverage preview: [71:09–73:14]

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Conclusion

This episode is a quintessential Sibling Rivalry deep-dive—perfect for Drag Race superfans and casual listeners alike. It’s packed with rare inside tea, arguments about drag fashion, honest panelist opinions, and the unique, roaring chemistry of two of drag’s sharpest commentators.

Next up: The queens will tackle All Stars 7 with all-new behind-the-scenes tea and unreleased production secrets.

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For even more context, check out their Patreon for video episodes, bonus content, and special retrospectives, and don’t miss upcoming episodes for the newest All Stars drama!

Transcript

[Naomi Smalls]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

Bob, this dress is inappropriate. Your breasts are out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I don't know if y' all do over at Exchange Enterprises, but here at Bob the Drag Queen llc, we believe in free the nipple, and we do not censor bodies.

[Monet X Change]

Why am I enterprising you're an llc? Actually, I think enterprise is better, so whatever.

[Podcast Producer]

Give her a moment.

[Naomi Smalls]

God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet pros. Or is it me?

[Monet X Change]

It was you.

[Podcast Producer]

It's Monet. It was Monet. Yeah, but you're back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that tasted. Oh.

[Podcast Producer]

Oh.

[Monet X Change]

Ew. Wait.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Why am I enterprising you, llc?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I've seen your paperwork and.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, first of all, enterprise is way fiercer than llc. Just so we all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Congratulations. I wasn't trying to downgrade you. That's the difference between you and me. Do you even know what enterprise is?

[Monet X Change]

I hate when you do this. Is my. This expression from you fucking irks me like a fucking bee in my goddamn bonnet, though.

[Podcast Producer]

What it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is that?

[Monet X Change]

I. E. That? I hate when you do that. It makes me want. It makes me want to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's because you're saying things to intentionally elicit a response to me. And I'm not giving it to you. I'm giving you this because I'm not giving you the response you want. Mama. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

The other day. It's your game, Bob. And I did a Patreon exclusive watching the Wakanda Forever trailer and also the Woman King trailer, which, for Bob being a Viola Davis. Stan, I had no idea that Viola Davis has this fierce fucking movie coming out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was gagged I also never said I was a Viola Davis, Stan. I said, I like Viola Davis. People always say I look like Violet Davis. I'm a Whoopi Goldberg. Carol Channing. Stan, I like Viola Davis. I've never. I don't. I do not watch. I never watch how to Get Away with Murder. I like Viola Davis. I've never claimed to be a Viola Davis, Stan. I'm just like, I like Viola Davis.

[Monet X Change]

When this trailer started, you were like, oh, my God, I love her so much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do love Viola Davis, but I'm not a woman. I love. I love Viola Davis. I'm not a Viola Davis. I have a tattoo of Hugoberg. This. I like Doja Cat. I don't listen. I love Doja Cat, but I don't listen to every single song on planet Earth. I listen to, like three or four songs. I am a Whoopi Goldberg, Stan. Like, I go bananas for Whoopi Goldberg. I go bananas.

[Monet X Change]

So you don't go bananas for Viola. I like Viola. I hope you hear that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I'm listening to Viola Davis book and I watch a lot of her movies, but I am not, like, I don't know her anthology.

[Monet X Change]

I listened to her book. I'm going to see her at the meet and greet. I bought VIP tickets to see her. But I'm not a Stan. I. I'm not a Stan. I just have all this stuff. I'm not a Stan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think everyone who listens to or reads Viola Davis book is a Stan. I've just seen, like, some of her movies, not all of them. And I like her a lot. I really love her work. She's a brilliant actor. Brilliant actor. Anyway. But today's. The movie looks very good. The movie looks very, very good.

[Monet X Change]

And if you want to see our opinions about the Wakanda Forever trailer and also the lion, the lion, the Woman,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe,

[Monet X Change]

it'll be coming out on Patreon very soon. So go over to our Patreon for a lot of. We have a lot of exclusive stuff that comes out on Patreon. Full video. We haven't said this in a long time. Full video podcast. If you're just listening to this, there's a video that goes with this fucking show. And it's on Patreon every week, every Monday, every Wednesday, Actually, a day before you get a little early, you get to see the full video of me and Bob. And you can see that look Bob was doing. That gets on my nerves. And if you do it one more time, in this podcast. I'm hanging up the call, so don't do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm already doing. She calling your bluff?

[Naomi Smalls]

And

[Bob the Drag Queen]

also, not to mention, we do

[Monet X Change]

have a. I mean, we have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, we're gonna get into episodes soon, but we have an amazing Patreon, a discord that goes with our Patreon that Monet has still yet to join. We've sent her all the information to join. She just refuses.

[Monet X Change]

That's not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you have joined. Well, you got a secret. You got a secret code name.

[Monet X Change]

No, the truth is, I did not get the paperwork to join. I didn't. I didn't know how to join.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Paperwork.

[Podcast Producer]

No, Monet, that's not the truth. Ask everybody.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I send you the link. Where?

[Monet X Change]

Where'd you send it to who?

[Podcast Producer]

I sent you the link. I texted it to you, and I sent you an email.

[Monet X Change]

I'm a check. I'm gonna do a screen recording to show the patrons that Jacob see Bob and a sneaky little boyfriend.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all yell, no, Ella, that's not the truth. You just don't want to go over to the Discord, honey. Just say you don't want to join them at the Discord. Just say you don't care about them and so we can move on. Can we move on to my season? The season that saved Drag Race inarguably,

[Monet X Change]

The season that you made us do because Alzheime All Stars 7. Yeah, we can get to it. Let's finish it up anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul's Drag Race Season 8 finale. We hit the red carpet. We hit the red carpet. And I just gotta say, as far as red carpet looks go, a lot of us really served on this red carpet. Like, I know that a lot of these looks are. Are what we wore in the opening, but, like, honestly, these, like, opening looks were great, in my opinion.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, there were a lot of. I mean, I think everyone always steps it up for the finales. I don't think, like, y' all all look good, but I don't think that's, like, unaccept. Like, you guys, like, did it more. Like, for the finale, people, girls really go all in and make sure, like, season five, the season five one, is really good, too. Season five was really good. When Detox did that fucking grayscale shit, it was wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But y' all all, why don't you do a big thing for your. So let's go down the line. Let's start with. Okay, first of all, so if you have. If you have ever. If you've never been to a filming of a finale of Drag Race. I've been to two. How many have you been to, Mo?

[Monet X Change]

I've been to two.

[Naomi Smalls]

Mine.

[Monet X Change]

And then season 11.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause you had to step down as well.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So when you step down, you're invited to the next one as well. Monet stepped down as Congeniality, and I stepped down as the reigning queen. And it's a definite. Like, the experience of being backstage, stepping down is so calm. It's so relaxing. There's no anxiety. You just like, girl. I mean. But also, is there anxiety for you when you're like. If you're not in the top, being at the finale, but not in the top four?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When.

[Monet X Change]

Like in season 10, when I was in the finale, obviously I didn't make it to the thing, but I was there is. Cause all you wear. You wear your look, and that's all you're in for the rest of the night. And then you go sit down and chill in Kiki. And then, if you're lucky, someone will try to, like, release butterflies in the number, and there'll be a really dramatic moment. You know what I mean? So that's all I was. I was chilling. Me and Cracker were right in that front row, sitting next to each other, chilling, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you watched that live? We're not gonna get into that.

[Monet X Change]

I had butterfly blood on my dress, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Butterflies in the sky, butterflies on the floor. But when you are there and you're still trying to win RuPaul's Drag Race, it is the most stressful episode of Drag Race you can. Because there's a live audience, over a thousand people sitting in the room. Actually, the audience isn't fully full because a lot of it is also cameras and stuff like that as well. But it's a pretty packed. There might be over a thousand people in the house. It is a packed, packed house. And I believe I won Drag Race at the. Not at the Ace Hotel.

[Monet X Change]

The Orpheum.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Orpheum. I won Drag Race at the Orpheum Theater in downtown la. And dtla. Dtla Datila, Honey Datilla.

[Monet X Change]

So imagine you're stressed, but also imagine. Cause at least you had a prepared number to do. From season nine on, they have to worry about doing a lip sync and trying to work through that. So I can imagine that's even crazier, the fact that you get to. But also, y' all was doing DragCon weekend, so y' all had to, like, rehearse it and do that. So. Yeah, it's just stressful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I forgot That I forgot that I was just doing, like, it was like the. The Monday after DragCon weekend. So we rehearsed for the finale during DragCon. So every night we would leave DragCon, and then we would go and rehearse for RuPaul's Drag Race. And then we also were doing press in the mornings. It was wild. That's when we put Billy Bush in drag. It was wild. It was really wild.

[Monet X Change]

People commented. They're like, I'm trying to find this video of Bob putting really being. You can't find it online. It's gone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, girl. I don't doubt they scrubbed it. As soon as Billy Bush was talking about grabbing pussies, I'm sure that RuPaul and them was like, nuh, honey. Nuh, honey. Not on my gay day. Not my gay dollars. This is my favorite Violet quote, Violet Josky. I think I told her on the podcast where we were at Swinging Riches. Rest in peace. Swinging Riches in Atlanta, Georgia. And this Go, go boy came up, and I think Valentina was like, are you straight? And he was like, yeah. And then Valachosky took all of the dollars that she had put on the table, gave him, and she goes, not my gay dollars. And walked away. That is one of my favorite. She's like, I'm not giving my money this straight ass. Not my gay dollars. So let's go through these looks, Monet. So up first, we have Dalmatian. Your sister Dex looks stunning. Absolutely stunning.

[Monet X Change]

She's doing. Obviously. This is from. Well, from the shoulders up. This is a Storm look. This is Storm here with that thing. This is Storm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I guess what's the mutant Excala, Jacob? The mutant Excalibur.

[Monet X Change]

The Hellfire.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Hellfire. This is Storm at the Hellfire, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So Storm goes to the Met is what Dax is doing. I think Dex looks great. Her body looks great. She fixed the padding for the reunion. That's nice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that's beautiful. That's not suspicious. That's not weird. No.

[Monet X Change]

She's walking around in those whiteout. I have done those white out contacts before. It fucks your vision up by 50%. Like, 50% of your vision is gone. And then y' all are on that red carpet with, like, bright lights, too. I'm sure she could barely see literally anything. It's so hard to do those.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A lot of people thought she was RuPaul. Like, people who worked for the show kept mistaking her for RuPaul. No, I'm telling you, all day. All day, folks. Walking up her room and be like, ru. And she'd be like, oh, sorry.

[Monet X Change]

In a picture, you have a of Dax. Kim is standing behind her. And Kim's legs are so far apart. Why is she standing in such a wide stance?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think because of all of the fabric. We're gonna get to Kim's look soon, but because of the fabric. Layla McQueen, by the way. Layla McQueen had this. They have all these intros for us. They were like, she is the beauty. It's Naysha Lopez, the queen of all nerds. It's Dax, exclamation point. And for Layla, it was just Michelle. Besides going, look out, it's Layla now. They went back and changed it in post, but in the moment it was just, look out, it's Laila.

[Monet X Change]

I don't understand the babies on her tits. I like the corset and I'm just. I guess she's kind of like a lingerie. She has like a night robe on with like a corset and garters and thigh high stockings. So it's like a nighttime bedtime look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm into the baby tits. It kind of looks like. I don't know, it's just. It's just interesting. I think it's an interesting concept to have your brassiere made of baby doll heads. I think it's kind of interesting. It looks like she's going for almost like a discount universe type vibe with her look. And at the time, purple was her signature color. I think she has shifted into blue these days. But I think she looks really good.

[Monet X Change]

I'm trying to play real nice because Bob want to make sure that Layla keeps his. Keeps his face card always goes through. But I was like, layla, don't fuck up my makeup.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I genuinely think that she looks nice. I think the baby doll heads are really clever. I've seen other girls do it before. I wish her shoes were purple or black, though. I don't know why she got on a big silver shoe. That Layla looks pretty.

[Monet X Change]

Layla always. This Layla's face is one of the most stunning in Drag Race ever. It's such a good face.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is the first time we saw Layla with like, hair. Hair on. Because she was wearing those flat, flat ass wigs before. But. And you know, it's been so long since I've seen Layla without a beard now. I forgot she's so pretty with. I mean, she's pretty with a beard too, but she's really like. But she is serving honey. She's wamana with this. Without this beard on.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Layla has. Layla has Is so great at makeup. She's so good. So good. Layla. So if y' all don't know Layla, I mean, she says it all the time, or she's. She's public about it. Like, Layla has her eyebrows shaved or she has a microbladed. But when she fills them in, Layla is so good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's not bladed. She's not bladed.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, she's not bladed. She just shaved them all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She just has. She has those little. She has the Valentinas.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The quote.

[Monet X Change]

Layla fills them in, and you cannot tell. Like, bitch, I'd be this up in Layla's thing. Like, let me see. And you cannot tell that it is fucking marker or whatever the fuck she's using. It's so crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you know RuPaul does her own eyebrows out of drag?

[Monet X Change]

I didn't know that, but that's not shocking.

[Naomi Smalls]

Good for her.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul's like, yeah, she has this whole routine. Every day, she gets up and does her daybrows. Oh, and you.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. You were trying to gather me about. My space is done now, honey, we. We are done. Honey. The cast rabbit came up in here. They got me together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honey, if y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nothing.

[Monet X Change]

Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A couple episodes where. Where she was in turning the camera in the corner, pulling one of these so we couldn't see the bustedness.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, hey, y'.

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All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, congratulations. Looks very, very nice. Your wall looks very nice.

[Monet X Change]

There's three rows deep. Like, I can finally have all my shoes out, you know, I. I did a count. Guess how many shoes I have. There's enough. There's two more racks up here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. It looks like it's like 1, 2, 3, 4. It's probably, like, eight pair per rack. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, maybe. It's like 64 pair of shoes.

[Monet X Change]

I have 78.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You only have two feet. Monet used to. Stupid joke.

[Monet X Change]

That's funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet used to have the same pair of shoes in every color. It was the exact same pair of only makers. Just over and over and over again. Tell that Kat to get her ass down.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. And I had y'.

[Jacob]

All.

[Monet X Change]

I'm so mad. Cause recently, I went, like, a purge on my phone, and I deleted pictures. I was like, I'm not ever gonna use this picture. I had a picture I had of Bob. It was a picture of when Bob and I went to Todrick's house, and Bob had two of Todrick's cats on his lap talking about some. And I deleted the fucking picture. But I used to have the goddamn Picture. And I'm gonna text. I'm gonna find her.

[Podcast Producer]

Did you.

[Monet X Change]

Did you have the pictures? And you know I did. Stop acting like I did, because you know I did. You know I had the pictures.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To quote my dear friend, where's the ocular proof? I need ocular proof. Honey,

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's move on to Cynthia Lee Fontaine. Do you want to see my cuckoo? I don't love this dress.

[Monet X Change]

It's not my favorite either. It's also the blatant, obvious nude illusion part in the front is a little like. It takes you out of the fantasy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she looks nothing like a noodle, but she did have a cutout over her butt with a heart, which I thought was a very clever little to her. Yeah. But it was like a mesh ass cutout over her cuckoo. But I do, you know, I think I would like the hair if it didn't get bigger in the middle. If the balls were getting smaller and smaller, but they just get randomly get bigger, like right in the middle.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, the hair, I think it's cool, though. It has a dip in that red and, like, ombres down a little bit. I think that looks. That was great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to Naysiana Lopez.

[Monet X Change]

This seems so simple for Naysha.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, this is Ms. Continental. This seems like I'm like, she wouldn't wear this. Sim is Continental. She would turn it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think maybe she was. I don't know, maybe she was like, you know, maybe I think some, you know, I don't know, maybe she's kind of like, well, I'm not competing again, you know, I'm just fucking here to show up and hoof it. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is simple. I do think it's as simple, but it's still. It's not nothing. It is. For a pedestrian, it'd be very complex, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I agree. I'd agree with that. Let's go on to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's fine. Yeah, it's Funny. Acid Betty looks amazing.

[Monet X Change]

This is next fucking. This looks so good. Made by Domino Couture.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And, you know, all those, like, abdomen and, like, little. That's a Sharpie.

[Monet X Change]

Is it really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Domino. Drew. Domino just drew that in with, like, a Sharpie. Maybe, maybe. Maybe it's touched up with a Sharpie. There's, like. I think there might be airbrushing and some touching up, but I also think. I'm not sure, but I think that maybe Domino made it and Acid Betty painted it, but I might be making that up. Maybe Acid Betty was doing with the sharp. Was playing with a Sharpie. I remember seeing someone coloring it in with a Sharpie, whether it was Betty or Domino, but Ace Betty looks absolutely absolute. It's one of the best looks of the nightly Stunning.

[Monet X Change]

One of the best.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree. She looks so good. Ace Betty is a very, very visually stunning queen. So good.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Robbie Turner in a lace front.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hello, somebody.

[Monet X Change]

You said visually stunning. Then we go to this bitch's girl. The face, literally the opposite of visually stunning. Looks horrible.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe it's a bit great. I don't. I don't think it's horrible. I mean, the dress is fine.

[Monet X Change]

No, not, not, not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The dress is fine. Oh, drag her.

[Podcast Producer]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yikes. Yeah, this is. This is not. I mean, this is. This is perfect. This is. I think this look is perfectly fine, and it's not like I'm not knocked over. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I would agree. It's fine. Yeah, it's fine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thorgy Thor, who's also wearing Domino Couture. I think I. Yeah, if she's wearing Domino Couture, this was a really interesting look. Domino Thorgy notoriously said on the show that she doesn't wear gowns, so she decided she didn't want to wear a gown for this either. She's wearing, like, a catsuit with a bathing suit over it, and it's like this.

[Monet X Change]

It's a character. Jacob. What's the character name? Lightbright. It's a character. It's a character.

[Podcast Producer]

Gumby.

[Monet X Change]

No, it's not Gumby. I forget the name of this. I forget the name of this character. It's like a. It's a girl, and she's like a superhero. She has, like, powers. It's a specific. She's doing a specific interpretation of something. Someone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I'm. I. I'm very intrigued by this look, though. I think it looks really cool. Yeah.

[Podcast Producer]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We got to move on. I think it looks really cool, though. I think it looks really cool, and I think the whole thing is cool. The idea, like, cat suit with this. Yeah, I think it's a cool look. I. I think. I cannot confirm, but I think Derek Barry is wearing Joshua Ponte, I think.

[Monet X Change]

Why do you think, like, you remember?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like I have a memory of her saying, this is Joshua Ponte, who's Vegas, right?

[Monet X Change]

No, he's Chicago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, really? Okay, maybe not. But I do love that.

[Monet X Change]

I think India Farah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do think that Tarek is. It looks like a stepped up version of her red carpet realness look from the Bitch Perfect episode. Like, it was a cocktail dress, and now it's like this, like. I think she looks good. She. And she finally figured out those fucking eyebrows. She finally got them. Eight months later, she got those brows together.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Derek looks good. She looks perfectly normal. It's not like, show stopping. It's not. But in person with the stones, it may have been like, oh, my God, but she looks good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she's pretty.

[Monet X Change]

Cheech Devane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Chi Chi Devang.

[Monet X Change]

She's wearing on her makeup today, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, she was, like, sick of, like. You know, there was this. I remember Chichi said to me, we were. We. I don't know if this ever aired, but we were all sitting backstage, and Kim and Naomi used to really go in on me and Chichi about our makeup. Like, they would go in on us, like, be just what felt at the time, like, mean to us about our makeup. And then Chi Chi was like, girl, I can draw some geometric shapes on my face, too. And then Kimchi goes, well, then why don't. Then Kimchi goes, well, then why don't you work? She goes, why don't you? And then I remember at the finale, Chi Chi found me. She was like seagull. I could do them. Geometric shapes, too. Like, I think that moment stuck with Chi Chi. Cause if you look up close, Chi Chi's eyebrows are also kind of like these, like, rectangles almost. This was a really cool look.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I think she looks great. I like. I like the gown. I like how it goes into, like, the little petal triangle shapes from the waist down. I like the. The little gauntlet she has onto it. I think she looks great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go into Bob the Drag Queen. I'm wearing a Domino couture gown with a cape that is painted by Tyler Wallach. This dress is. I donated this dress to the Carol Channing estate, and they put it up in a. In some museum somewhere through her charity. It was, like, by way of the Carol Channing estate. Here's this dress from Bob the Drag Queen. And as I went out, there's a long train. This is hand painted. As I walked out, Kim Chi steps on my cape as we're going out and rips my cape off my shoulder. No, the whole cape came off. I'm not kidding you. I was livid. Livid. This is. This is this. So what happens is they call all the girls one by one, one by one by one, one by one. And then we all like go back and then we all come out again at the same time. And as I walked out, Kim, she stepped. No, this is on the stage, bitch. This is like. This is. This aired. There's a clip of me, like pulling slightly tugging on my little capelet to keep my shit up. But anyway, that being said, I really love this dress a lot. I love this dress.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's nice. It fits you really gray. I like the hair combo with it. I think it looks great. Looks really good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I tried to keep this bob. This is two bobs stacked and I tried to keep them going for a while, but girl travel, I did not know how to travel with. I did not learn the. How do you travel with wigs?

[Monet X Change]

Well, right now Patty and I just do human. So we repair. He prepares them every city so they're fresh every time. When I used to have style pieces, I would stuff the cap with like plastic bags and I'll put it in a bag and put in a suitcase. Because sometimes girls put them in like big, like cases like that. But when you do that, like, that takes up so much space. When, if it's a. It's a stunning style, just stuff the cap, put it in another bag, and you can put stuff around it and keep it secure as opposed to having a big ass plastic case taking up a mad space in your suitcase. It's too much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I put it in a Tupperware dish and I put that in the suitcase because it always shows up pristine. Unless, listen to me, any traveling people out there who want to travel styled synthetic wigs. Actually, human wigs are even worse with this. If you travel a style, first of all, you don't.

[Monet X Change]

If you have a human wig, you don't travel styled.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, if a human wig is styled, it is styled one time. And I mean one. The moment the heat reaches your head. Whatever style it had, she's done. You know what I mean? But if you. The only, only salad, they can last. Like, it's like a ponytail. But if you try to like have like waves or something like that, it's

[Monet X Change]

oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Style every time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, but if you have, if you have a nigga, you're at a time that a certain girl from Chicago was like, she called me a.

[Monet X Change]

And I was like, about me or you? You that I call them a nigga.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Was she black?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she was the one from Chicago. The one Monet. The one from Chicago that we don't talk about on the podcast anymore because it gets messy every time.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, so she's mad. Anyway, I don't remember, but sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, but if you take your wig off your head while it is still warm, while you are still sweating, you have to let it air out. Otherwise the wig, the heat will transfer and your wig will come out rancid and it will be. And it will be shaped like the Tupperware, but your wig will be on a 90 degree bitch on a 90 because the heat from your head is enough to slightly reset the wig. Anyway. But yeah, always, always put your wigs, your padding, your everything in front of a fan dry. As soon as you get off stage. Let it dry. Have a, have an outfit for the meet and greet that you can wear that requires no padding or something. If you do a post meet and greet or a walk around that you can walk around, let what you are wearing, everything you are wearing, it needs to be bone dry or as close to bone dry as possible before you pack it away. And when you go to your hotel, if it's not dry, then put it out on the couch because you do not want to pack away wet drag.

[Monet X Change]

So back in the day when I would, when I was traveling the world and working or whatever, and I would always come back because I'm a sweaty queen. We know this. I am a sweaty queen. I think, I think too hard. I am sweating, right? So get done with the gig. And I would bring always Patty and I would always bring an IKEA bag. And I would carry the IKEA bag with my wet stuff and like put it all over the room to dry. So then back. So then I would call trade over and trade would come over. They have a stone leotard, a fucking blonde wig, this and that, the other, they'll just be looking at me like, what the fuck is going on?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, also, if you're in these hallways, they fucking know who you are too, usually.

[Monet X Change]

But you know me, girl. I was fucking hood niggas. I was fucking DM motherfuckers. So they were just like, what you do? I was like, I'm a costumer. At a Broadway show. We're traveling to tour the show around

[Bob the Drag Queen]

people from the hood. Watch your Paul's Drag Race. How do you know?

[Monet X Change]

Not the. I was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to kimchi. This is one of my favorite kimchi outfits. I think about it all the time. I think about this outfit all the time. I want to know where this outfit is. I want this outfit. I should ask him. Where is this? Like, can I have this? Like, this is.

[Monet X Change]

Should I call her right now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you call.

[Monet X Change]

No, you.

[Naomi Smalls]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no. You've been on the road with not getting answered lately, and I want you to keep. Keep your not getting answered up.

[Monet X Change]

Honey, it looks really good. She's like. She's like a. She's like a fairy. The things. These are wings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They look like wings.

[Monet X Change]

She's like a fairy gauntlet. She looks. This is a really great Kim look. This is really, really great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now let's talk about. Piece of crap I have ever seen in not in my life.

[Monet X Change]

This is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is the worst of the. Of the night. Yeah, this might be the worst of the season. This. I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, not this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? I don't know. This is. This is bottom five of the whole season.

[Podcast Producer]

You think this is worse than Cynthia Lee Fontaine's roller skate look?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I. I had. I had to rethink about it. This is bottom five of the season. This look is.

[Podcast Producer]

I think this is worse than Tin man look.

[Monet X Change]

Is this worse?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said bottom five of the season.

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't think it's bottom five. It's worse than Robbie Turner's lion look. No, girl, it's not bottom five.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you've only named. You've only named three looks that's worse than this one. I need. I need at least two more for it to not be bottom five, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Bother drag queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't try to say nothing. I did. Don't try to say nothing. I was. Because I was tutored that week. I got. I got a toot from Raja, honey. Yeah. The girl who should have won several challenges that you won.

[Monet X Change]

You're such a fucking bitch. Well, honey, if you watched my episode with Naomi and the pit stop season 14, Naomi does this whole monologue about how much she hates this little. She thinks it's the ugliest she has ever looked in drag. She thinks she looks like Princess Fiona from Dragon Bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm glad that we're on the same page.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this picture. This particular picture of her is extremely racist. It is extremely homophobic.

[Advertisement Voice]

Oh.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

This Is not great. Naomi. And Naomi's my icon, but this is not it, girl. This is wild. The fucking little buns. I love Naomi so much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, let's go on. So now my season was actually not the last season anymore because they just did it recently on season 14, but for a long time. From 7.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, they did. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

From 7 through. From 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. From 10 through 13. They did not do those individual performers. They only did it for like, a few seasons. Seven and eight did it. Nine didn't do it. Nine did not do it.

[Monet X Change]

Nine to 13, they did not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And so it was only seven, eight, and 14 that did these, like, they write original songs for us to perform. And let's talk about these performances. So I did first. I did show off. I don't like to show off. All these songs are written by Lucien Piani. And can I just tell you that these shoes I danced in are so tall. And I mean, the heel to toe. The heel to toe ratio is ba. I put them on again recently, and I was like, how was I dancing?

[Monet X Change]

That's back when you had good knees.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. All right, Monet, let's talk about. Oh, by the way, some people released some footages of you with your exploding foot at Roscoe's. Oh, yeah. The investigation continues. That's ocular proof, Monica.

[Monet X Change]

I took off both my shoes at Roscoe's.

[Podcast Producer]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So it's spreading. It's contagious. It's spread to the other foot now. Anyway, this was.

[Monet X Change]

This was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I was.

[Monet X Change]

This was the best performance of the night. This. You were. Your body looked. Oh, and last episode. Read the comments. There are more. More people than not are like, bob has a great body. But I wouldn't say Bob is known for his body. Bob is known for being very funny for being a comedian. No one is like, oh, yeah, Bob is no. Like, that's not a thing. Anyway, it's so weird because you were

[Bob the Drag Queen]

just going on about my body. Go ahead, continue. Again, what were you saying about my body?

[Monet X Change]

Go ahead. Your body looks really good and your whole look match the song so well. You. The choreo was really funny. You saw it in the audience. Like, it was. It was the best one tonight. But you're known for being a very good performer, so that all makes sense.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you think you're known for being funny? You think you're known for that?

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I do, people. Yes, I do. Comment below. Do you think. Do you think I'm known for being funny?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, you're known. People like Monet. She's the one that's really funny. Monet is. Tell me about Monet. Where people are like. She sings. She has a great talk show. She's really good at interviewing people. You think people lead in with. She's really funny. Monet is, like, known for her humor, y'. All.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God, y', all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y'.

[Naomi Smalls]

All.

[Monet X Change]

Can y' all please light this bald black bitch up in these comments? Let this nigga know, y'.

[Podcast Producer]

All.

[Monet X Change]

Let this black bitch know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How about I. I'll post a list on my Twitter. Be like, list your top 20 funny queens. You think you'll make the list? 20? Will you make the list? Will you make the list? Just answer the question.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I will.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Interesting. Anyway, this entire outfit came from Sick Person. I was just wondering. This entire outfit came from Santee Alley, every except the shoes. Because I was like, I'm not spending a crazy amount of money on this because I wanted to look a certain way. I was gonna get some custom jeans made. I was gonna get a custom jersey. I was like, I'm just gonna get it done like this. I really enjoy this outfit. I thought it looked really good. And also, I'm not wearing a corset hair at all. I'm wearing no corset hair. Yep. No corset. Because I wanted to be able to, like, really move and get those moves and stuff. So I was. This might have been the last time that I thought my body looked good without a cor. In New York City, when I would do, like, the big shows, I wouldn't wear a corset either. But when I was skinnier, I just didn't need to wear a corset. But then, girl, time gathered me, honey, Time gathered me.

[Monet X Change]

Kim looks incredible. Kim.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree.

[Monet X Change]

Kim looks very majestic. She looks what he fierce. And what I like about this is each of you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her song was called Fat Femination.

[Monet X Change]

Asian. Yeah. And. And Kim didn't do a whole lot of dancing. There was. There were. There was a lot of hanography when they all did the. Like. That all looks really cool. It was very visually. Visually pleasing. But Kim was not doing a whole bunch of choreography, because that's not Kim's strong suit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you remember when Kim was just going to.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, she was just. Y'.

[Naomi Smalls]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The crowd was acting like she was gravity. Marc Jacobs. The crowd was acting like Kim was like.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, when. When I was at peace and Kim did that. We were. We. A lot of us were crying. It was really good. It was very impressive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not gonna lie. I was in competition mode. I was in my. My real toxic space, and I was watching it on the monitor. And when she started punching and people cheer, I was downstairs, like, I was downstairs, like, oh, my, this bitch is punching air. And then. And Naomi was next to me. She was like, oh, she's so cute. I just love her. And I was like. Because at the time, I was like, kim is the. At the time, I was like, kim is the only thing standing between. They could possibly be standing between me and the crown. And Kim had more fans on her side. Kim had a bigger online presence and in the, you know, the. Are you team, so. And so Kim had the. I think I had the most on Twitter, but Kim had the most on Instagram. So I was. Or vice versa, something like that. But Kim was like, the fans were rooting for her and I was like, fuck this fucking bitch. Punching some air.

[Monet X Change]

Then the George's came punching the ghost, I guess. I guess that's the secret of punching things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Naomi Smalls looks beautiful. Majestic, but she's beautiful also. That was. Kennedy Davenport did a bit. Do you want to show Tamar? We were at dinner the other day, and I, Monet's boyfriend said something. Didn't know some. Oh, I didn't know that Monet did a show about vegans.

[Monet X Change]

Bob was listening. Bob started saying stuff. And every time I was like, bob, he doesn't know that. Bob's like, you don't know that? He doesn't know that?

[Advertisement Voice]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But what was wild because so what happened was he didn't know that Monet did a whole vegan show on YouTube, like an entire eight episode series with, like, Alaska Nicole Byer, with a set and a sound and a crew and buckets of vegan food in her home. And then oblivious. And then I said. And I was like, you didn't know that? She did. She goes. He goes, huh? I said, do you even watch the show Tamar? Which took us down a whole other.

[Monet X Change]

And he was like, what? What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, oh, my God, Andy. Anyway, I also thought that the dancers look so hot. Like, what they were wearing during Amy's number. I remember being like, they look so hot. Like, I was like. I was like, y' all look so good. I was like, so upset. They looked so good. It was just these little black booty shorts. But I was like, they look so hot. I remember being very hot and bothered at the time.

[Monet X Change]

I like this. And again, we said it 19 times and we, Bob and I both said it on our perspective pit Stops and stuff. But doing these numbers and maybe I like it so much cause we don't have it so often. If it was this every season, I might get bored of it again. But season 14 and thinking about watching this season in finale. These numbers are curated for these girls because it lets everyone do their thing they can do. Bob is a good dancer and all that stuff. So Bob did all that in her stuff. Kim is not. She likes to punch things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She did that in hers.

[Monet X Change]

Naomi likes them on there. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And.

[Monet X Change]

But maybe if it was, it became like a regular thing, it would be boring. But I really do like this a lot. I love, love, love, love.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Naomi's song was called Leg Day. I really like Naomi's song a lot too. I mean, Leg Day is a real bop. Every day is Leg Day. I think that Naomi actually, of the songs, I think Naomi had the best song. I think I had the best performance.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I would agree. Naomi best song, you best performance. I would agree with that for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Remember Naomi? Naomi was wearing those like this was. Naomi made those popular. The encrusted suit, crystal necklace, choker ones, the big ones. Naomi popularized that. Maybe I'm wrong, but I remember Naomi popularizing that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, some 85 year old queen about to light you up, some 95 year old queen from Bebops in Alabama about to fucking let you know, Honey,

[Monet X Change]

wait, Jacob, are you going to put. You shall not be. Okay, never mind.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Good. This was also the last time that all of the winners of RuPaul's Drag Race had assembled. This was literally the very last time that everyone who had won Drag Race was in one space.

[Monet X Change]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And if you include, I mean, I don't know if you can really include me because I hadn't won Drag Race at the time. So this was, this is, I think this is the most winners of Drag Race that have ever assembled in one place before work.

[Monet X Change]

And they did not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Isn't that kind of wild?

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy. Bibi, let's start with BB BB Looks incredible. I love this. This blue with this animal print. It's really. It's a really good combo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's actually not blue. It's not just blue. It's not lapis, it's not turquoise. It's actually cerulean. No. She looks so good. This is so amazing. And I just, it really, you know, sets. Bebe. I believe when you are Bibi Zaharbanae, you have to be at 1000 every time because you are the drag, the standard for like she Set the standard for what it means to win Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, agreed, Agreed. You know, she looks really good. Next up was James, formerly known as Tyra. And this. It's not Kelly green. It's more of, like, a cartoon green. It's like a power skin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not Kelly green. It's not a hunter green. It's not lime green. It's actually bibbidi bop.

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm just kidding.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Fun fact. This outfit didn't zip in the back, so she. So we had to, like. There was, like, a lot of Jimmy rigging and camera angling because we couldn't get it to zip.

[Monet X Change]

Why? It was too small?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it was a little small, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Damn. But Tyra looks great. I would wear this. Is it a cape or these sleeves?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a cape, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, she saw your look, girl. She made that shit backstage, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Capes on the Runway. Cape theme is capes. Capes.

[Monet X Change]

A trend alert.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Trend alert. Raja came out as Madonna, giving him a Madonna look. I don't love this Rajah look. I don't hate it. Like, I don't. I don't. Also, Raja was Liddy like a titty.

[Monet X Change]

Like a titty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, she was, like, visibly lit. Like, she had. She had the. She was tipping the bottle girl.

[Monet X Change]

She had that sauvignon blanc girl on tap. And something about this gold corset being on top of these pants is so wrong. But I love it. It's so right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think. I mean, it is a direct nod to, you know, Madam M. Did Madam

[Monet X Change]

M have the corset over the pants?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. You know what? You did one little thing with Madonna. Please stop acting like you are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but you did one little thing with Madonna. I did a show with Madonna.

[Monet X Change]

You can let niggas have nothing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, bitch. You did one little thing with Madonna.

[Monet X Change]

Bitch is the queen that owns the flavor of blood orange. It's Sharon Eatles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, it's a fine suit. It looks fine. The fabric itself is a little bit busy, and I just also just hate talking about sharing needles.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's fine. It looks a little ill fitting, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When's the last time you're in the same room as her, bitch?

[Monet X Change]

When we were on tour. When we were on tour in Asia, Australia, and we were doing that tour, and Sharon would drink during the show, and then she come out to do her number, and it was. She was singing live. She was singing Mars from Aliens Attack, and then she would. It was to a karaoke track, and then she would Be like, drunk by that time. Her number, right? She would come and do her number off stage and she would fuck it up. Come off stage and like, crying, Bob. Crying. Like, I don't understand why they changed a song every night. Why is it never the same? Why is it never the same? And you know, you know, Quiria gets lit on tour and quirky goes. Because you're fucking drunk,

[Podcast Producer]

Girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The dysfunction. The dysfunction.

[Monet X Change]

Can you imagine that? Us, I'm just drug on Torah and Bobby trying to gather me, girl. Never.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hopefully I don't have to imagine weed while doing your job.

[Podcast Producer]

High while working.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, imagine. Imagine if I had a co worker who was leaning off.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob, mind your fucking business. That clip of me in New York when we were filming the thing and me that shit, I watch that all the time and it cracks me up. You, when I leaned up with the smoker thing and I was like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You like.

[Monet X Change]

You're like, monet, what are you doing? I was like, nothing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know your ass could never lie as a child. You are so bad. You have no poker face with it. Going to Chad Michaels. Chad Michaels is doing a take on Mugler's. I think it's called a lobster dress.

[Podcast Producer]

It's the Chimera dress.

[Monet X Change]

The Chimera.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the Chimera dress. And I do not love this. Take personally. I don't love it. I think the Chimera dress is really hard to replicate. And if you don't, it just. It just looks like a cheap version of it. And I don't think she did a great job here.

[Monet X Change]

I think it's good. I think it's good. I like it. I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you wear it?

[Monet X Change]

I think she did a good job.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you wear it?

[Monet X Change]

I don't think I would wear the original Chimera dress.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch, shut your fucking fake lion ass up. You wouldn't wear Mugler's Chimera dress?

[Monet X Change]

It can't fit me. It's not even an option. Not on the table.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But if we got one, let's say I had the. The click, click clackity to do it. You. You would be like, I'm just not interested.

[Monet X Change]

I worried if you did it for

[Bob the Drag Queen]

me, but would you wear. If I could get this dress in your side, would you wear it? Yeah, nigga. Anyway, let's move on to drinks. Monster. Actually, she doesn't drink anymore. Jinx. Monsoon.

[Monet X Change]

Just go smokes Monsoon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love this. This dress. It looks really good on her. She looks great.

[Monet X Change]

It looks good. I like it some. The way I wish. Get down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, My, you sound like a country ass mom. Y' all sit down in there.

[Monet X Change]

Let me grab.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me grab a Red Bull so I can get through this evening. Honey, we got a lot of shit to go through. I'll be right back.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Podcast Producer]

Not a lot of shit in this exchange.

[Monet X Change]

That's so rude.

[Podcast Producer]

What's Colleen doing?

[Monet X Change]

She just. She tries to. She jumped on the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'd rather have the sugar free coconut.

[Monet X Change]

Sugar free coconut Red Bull. They have a sugar free one. Is it good? Yeah, it's good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like it. I like coconut flavor stuff, though.

[Podcast Producer]

Can you explain what Colleen was doing for our listeners?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, so what Colleen was doing. I have a paper shredder in here. Because if you don't have a paper, let me tell y', all, if you throw. Stop throwing your bills out. Or like, when credit card companies send you, like, things for credit cards. If someone finds it in the garbage. And again, it's not. Who knows if they will. People can get credit cards in your name. There's like a whole. I watched a whole YouTube video on it today. You should shred them. Just buy a shredder. They call, say you can get one for like 25 bucks and have a shredder. Anyway, she just hopped on the shredder and she's poking through the. I'm breaking my blinds up, and when I move out of here, I'm about to give these motherfuckers money for some blinds.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever seen. There's this trend on TikTok where it's like, five. Five things I would never do now that I've been a lawyer for 10 years. You should make a list. Like, five things you would never do after, like, studying opera or five things you'd never do after working at a hotel.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, that's a good idea. I. You posted a TikTok and you. Obviously it was. It was a satirical TikTok making fun of that thing, but it's of crunch, of cringe. TikTok. But yours was so cringy. I literally. I couldn't. I wanted. I wanted to fall into the fetal position watching you do it.

[Podcast Producer]

You just say one thing you would never do after working with your co host for the past five years.

[Monet X Change]

One thing I would never do after the podcast was podcast with someone for five years is agreeing to 50%. I should own 75% of the company.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Interesting. And who would take that shit deal with you?

[Monet X Change]

People who know that what a fucking treat it is to fucking work with me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm trying now. No one knows about the Treat of work with Monet. Quite like me. Not even Lazy Bunny, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I like Jinxing Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You should make one of these videos, Monet. Make one of those videos.

[Monet X Change]

I will, I will, I will. I like this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have to do this. You have to do the cage mouth.

[Monet X Change]

Do they do that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, they love that.

[Monet X Change]

My God, my middle finger's crooked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch, you're high. Keep moving.

[Monet X Change]

I like Jinx's dress. I wish there was more of, like, an ombre between the tulle and the way the dress starts. It's just a little stark for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Bray.

[Monet X Change]

But that's. But I think I love the gold and I love the shoulders. I think it looks good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's move on to Bianca Del Rio.

[Monet X Change]

Bianca del Rio.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Only I don't like about the dress is the bottom. I don't like. I don't like how the bottom trumpets out. I wish it was, like either straight down or like a full on mermaid. A bigger mermaid.

[Monet X Change]

I agreed, agreed, agreed. I mean, I like the. She did a little take on her boat neck. Well, the once. No, it's the same thing. Yeah. Having these little petals of these peacock feather looking things. Yeah, it's great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And let's talk about this girl. Well, first, let's talk about the episode before we get here. So we had some really amazing moments. It was really interesting because I felt like me and Naomi got some really, like, moving moments with RuPaul during our conversations with Ru. Like, I got a message from Carol Channing.

[Monet X Change]

Carol Channing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Carol Channing.

[Monet X Change]

Carol. Cheryl. Cheryl Canning.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got a message from my mom naming smalls. Had, like, almost all of her siblings there. It was like, all this stuff. And then RuPaul was like, Kim, when's the last time you failed, you dumb bitch? You dumb, clumsy cunt. I was like, my God. Jesus. Wait, did RuPaul ever say the N word while you. You've done Drag Race three times. You ever heard RuPaul say the N word?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I've heard twice. He is. He said it on season. Tana season. And he's also an all Star for something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, because someone tweeted out. Someone was like, does anyone ever say the N word on Drag Race? And I was like, yeah, I said it a few times.

[Monet X Change]

I said it multiple times. It never comes out, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said it during untucked, and I said it. I never said on the main stage, but I've said it. I've never had a reason. I've never. It's never come up on the main stage, but I've said it during Untucked and I've said it during in the workroom. And I was like. And RuPaul said it in the. RuPaul has said it in the workroom too. And everyone online is like, wait, RuPaul said the N word? I was like, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, he black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, why? Why y' all such. Like, this old ass black man is saying the N word.

[Monet X Change]

The n word. Yeah. RuPaul.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Charles, there are probably people out there who like, come over to our YouTube page and are like, oh, my God, they're saying the N word. Oh, yeah. Nigel thought this shit was Shangela.

[Monet X Change]

Shangela and her mom be like,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

has Shangela ever mentioned. Because we talk about Shangela's disdain for using. Has she ever brought that up to

[Monet X Change]

you before she next door knock to know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ask her.

[Monet X Change]

She right there. You don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet did a. A New Year's Eve gig with Shangela once, and Monet was doing a cardi b song and she asked Monae not

[Monet X Change]

to do the numbers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She asked Mona not to do the number and was like. And I was like, she's like, my grand. My grandma's a big fan of yours. What if my grandma saw you up there? Isn't that what she said? Also, I want ocular proof that Grangela's a big fan. I want ocular proof. I want Grangela saying, soak it up.

[Monet X Change]

Can you ask Angela about that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll ask her about it. Maybe we'll bring her on the pod. Shangela does not. Shangela kind of avoids podcasts and stuff where she has to give. Like, Shangela doesn't want to do the Pit Stop, which makes sense. I just don't want to critique anyone's drag. I don't want to judge anyone. I don't want to critique anyone. That's just not my place to do that kind of thing. And I feel like she might be like, I don't do yalls podcasts.

[Monet X Change]

I'll ask her, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I feel like she'll be like, no, girl, I don't do yalls podcasts. Because I've asked a few celebrities. They were like, nah, I don't do podcasts because I'm going to get on there and say some shit that don't need to be said.

[Naomi Smalls]

And.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, and the interview's really nice with you and Naomi, though. Well, it's kind of a trend in RuPaul when he does interviews, like season. We have season 10, but. And he always. He asked a few nice ones. He asked like a. Like a Little. A deep question to kind of, like, dig in there. And Kim just didn't get that moment.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Kim.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I kind of felt like she didn't even like him. I gotta be honest with you. Also, can we. Jake, we didn't get a picture of RuPaul's dress. It was a very interesting dress. It was like tinsel or, like plastic. It was a very, very interesting.

[Monet X Change]

Did it look nice in person garment?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it looked pretty good. It looked good. I think she looked. She looked nice. It wasn't my favorite dress of hers from a finale or anything. One of my favorites is his season nine.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. The season nine one. Top tier.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Love that.

[Podcast Producer]

Love.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Love that one. Okay, so let's talk about this moment. So let's do them in order. So first we got to talk about me, Naomi, and Kim before we talk about Violet.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

I don't. I mean, I remember what. Oh, it's at the end. Got it. Okay.

[Podcast Producer]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So. Okay. So Kim. So Kim's wearing a dress that was made by Dallas Coulter. Dallas Coulter, the lady. Hyde made this dress. And Dallas has made some stuff for me and for Monet, actually. You know that picture of Monet sitting on the suitcases in that. In that, like, tweed suit or something? Yeah, that's Dallas, right?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's Dallas.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And it's like, anyway, this is the point. So Kim was like, this is like. I think this is, like, a given g origami dress, like, remake thing. And Kim was like, my dress is going to be massive. It's going to be really big, and I can't go down the aisle. So the idea was that there were three aisles in the theater. Me, Kim and Naomi are each going down the aisle. And Kim was like, I can't go down the aisle. This is why I was so irritated with Kim, is that I was so.

[Monet X Change]

Y'.

[Podcast Producer]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was. I was mad at Kim. I was irritated with everything she was doing. I love Kim, but on this day, I was like, this bitch is trying to wedge me out of this fucking crown. So Kim.

[Naomi Smalls]

Kim.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This fucking bitch. Kim. Kim was like, I can't. I can't. I can't go down the aisle. My dress just. It literally will not fit down the aisle. What are we gonna do? And then they were like, well, so there is this massive LED panel. It's huge. And it goes up. Like, you can fly it out, and you can fly it in. And that's how RuPaul was revealed at the top of the show. RuPaul, they lifted this wall up, and Rupaul popped up from behind this wall to, you know, to host a show. And Kim was like, I think I have to use the LED wall. And she was. And they were. And they were. And they were entertaining. They were like, so Naomi and Bob will walk down the aisle, and Kim will disappear from behind the LED wall. And I was like. And I remember saying, absolutely not. I was like, absolutely under zero circumstances. And they were like, what? I was like, I'm telling y' all right now, there's no way that me and Naomi are walking down the aisle. And Kim is popping up behind the same wall that RuPaul popped up after and the one that Violet Chachki, our current reigning. Is coming out of. No, it elevates her to a level above us. There is no equity. And I'm not doing that. If she. I was like, if she comes in the wall, I'm not coming. I'm not coming down the aisle. I'm just going to walk. I'm just going to fucking walk on stage. It was. It was a. It was a whole thing. And they. I think. I can't remember. I thought they even. I feel like they even put her behind the wall for, like, a split second to see if it would work. I got to call Naomi to see, like, what actually happened, because I can. I cannot remember. Naomi, please do not embarrass me, okay?

[Podcast Producer]

Do you think she's going to answer? Is Naomi going to answer yes or no?

[Monet X Change]

Naomi will. She will. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Unless she's in the show. She might be in the show right now.

[Podcast Producer]

I'm going to say no. She's not going to answer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What time is it in Vegas?

[Monet X Change]

She's off today. I spoke to her today. She's heading to Chicago right now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, is she in the air?

[Monet X Change]

No, she's landed already.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't know. You are making up news. Fake news.

[Monet X Change]

We spoke earlier.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Fake ass news. I ain't got time. Okay? You called somebody. You dodged a little bullet earlier. You dodged a bullet earlier, honey, is what you did. You dodged the bullet because you saw them reading the comments be like, damn. Well, they didn't answer Monet now, either.

[Podcast Producer]

Let's have Monet try calling Kim.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no, no, no. I don't want to call Kim.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, shut your ass. No, I'm good. I don't want to do it anyway. So I threw a hissy fit, and I was like, no, Kim's not coming from behind that fucking wall. So we ended up going all down the aisle, and, oh, my God, Magically, Kim fit In the fucking aisle.

[Monet X Change]

Kim is g. Kim was like, I'm going to get this. I'm going to get a. Get in my moment. She better work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So let's talk about these looks individually, shall we? Also, Jacob, can you bring in the reference image for this origami dress? I think it's Givenchy, I think, but it might be. It might be fine.

[Monet X Change]

It looks a little. It looks a little. Not like the birds. Just aren't my fave. All the origami birds.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Naomi just text me.

[Jacob]

She doesn't like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She. Oh, she's. I think she's at Roscoe's right now.

[Monet X Change]

No, she's there tomorrow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I think she just sent me a picture. It looks like Roscoe's. I love her with her little podcast.

[Monet X Change]

Her podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love. I mean, her Afro. Sorry, I'm trying to text her just on the pod, trying to remember the finale. Anyway, I love Nimi so much.

[Monet X Change]

I love her so much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, yeah, this is. I mean, you know, it's not my favorite thing I've ever seen Kim wear, but I do like it, though.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's not my fave.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it Givenchy dress, Jacob?

[Podcast Producer]

I don't know if it was Givenchy specifically. I. I Googled it, but I didn't see that. This is the dress that came up when I typed in the reference. I just posted it into the chat and let's see. It's Christian Dior 2000. Spring, Summer, 2007.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't think it was. It was something. Is there another designer with a Gianni or Eliana?

[Podcast Producer]

Kristen Dior. John Galliana was in charge of Kristen Dior in 2007.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's what it was. Yeah. Anyway, I'm not crazy about this dress.

[Monet X Change]

The reference image is fierce. This is kind. Kim's is not giving the reference.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I'm not obsessed with it either. Yeah, we can take it off.

[Monet X Change]

Naomi is. Naomi's is simple. I think it's classic. It has the fur. It has an old Hollywood feel again, the big choker things. Naomi's, she made that trendy. I think Naomi looks pretty. It's a classical Hollywood look. It's not like, oh, my God. But it's not, you know, it's the final thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I think she looks very, very, very classy, in my opinion.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I don't know who she's wearing. I think she might be wearing dolls,

[Podcast Producer]

but I don't really remember.

[Monet X Change]

And you are wearing Dominic Couture, and I think this looks great. I love this dress. This Is very pretty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she is at. She is at Roscoe's right now.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, I love the asymmetry of it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you. I really like this dress too. I. I was very. I was. Fun fact. The edge of this dress is burnt. Like, to get that, like, edge of it just took a lighter. I think I was doing it too, like, burning the edge of the dress to get it to this, like, proper look. And the shoes that I'm wearing. Kim lent me those shoes on the first episode of Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, for your. For your curtain dress?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yep. The shoes that I'm wearing are. They're spray painted gold, and they are just literally the shoes that Kim gave me on episode one of RuPaul's Drag Race. And I really. I really love this dress. This dress is actually currently in my. In my apartment. It was. This is also in a museum. This is at the Max Factory Museum next to Violet Chachki's wedding gown from season seven of RuPaul's Drag Race. But the weird thing is, we go down there, when you went down there and you saw the dress. Violet's dress is on like, a woman mannequin. And maybe put my shirt on a fucking nigger. My shit is on a man ass mannequin. I said, if y' all don't get me a fucking plus size woman mannequin and put my shit on her, don't put my shit on a fucking man ass mannequin.

[Monet X Change]

Don't do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't you ever do that shit again. Y' all got me fucked up.

[Monet X Change]

That is hilarious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Man ass. I was. I was. I was like, y' all are wild on a white man mannequin. Had my dress up on a white man mannequin. I was like, give me my. Give me my shit back. Give me my back.

[Monet X Change]

And let's talk about the creme de la creme, the Pierre.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, first, let's talk about RuPaul. RuPaul's outfit. RuPaul's wearing this holographic gown between Beyonce.

[Monet X Change]

It made him look so. It looked a little beefy in the middle. It wasn't. It wasn't thing enough in the middle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Since RuPaul normally snatches in the waist, and also RuPaul got some bigger pads. But RuPaul's wearing that gingham look on All Stars 7. I was like, RuPaul is looking thicker than a snicker up in this piece, honey. All right, now let's talk about one of the best looks in the history of RuPaul's Drag Race truly. This is House of Kany. This is Violet Chachki. And this is a look that actually came from behind the wall. Unlike Kim was trying to pull look that came from behind the wall.

[Podcast Producer]

And aesthetics are by Gage Munster.

[Monet X Change]

Her prosthetics are by Gage Monster.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she had to be lifted up in the freight elevator. She had to go up the stairs in the freight elevator to under her.

[Monet X Change]

Look at the first picture. Is she. What is that? Is that horse hair from the dress underneath giving it the structure?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think it's just her, like, more garment because she was not on a thing. She was just walking with this heavy ash dress cinched tight as hell. This was a very good look. Violet.

[Monet X Change]

Dave.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This dress is one of those dresses that people for years were like, how's anyone going to top this? How's anyone going to top this? How's anyone going to top this dress? And people have finally stopped saying that somehow this. I think this last year, people finally stopped saying.

[Monet X Change]

Do you think anyone has stopped it since?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think in people's own ways, they have all done really great jobs. I don't think anyone stepped down. Has been bad since season. Since this season.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. How do you feel about. How do you feel about Simone? We never talked about that. How do you feel about Simone stepped down?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know that it's not something I would ever wear, but I think that it's just. It was a very elevated pair of jeans, and people who loved it were obsessed. They were like, if you don't. If you don't like it, you just don't get it. And I was like, okay, okay. People who liked it were like. Like, I've seen people not like stuff before, but something about not liking Simones made people go bananas. Did you notice this?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. People were wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, yo, people dislike people's outfits all the time. People were going, but if you don't like Simone. They were like, yo, fucking dumb, ignorant ass. I was like, I mean, I didn't hate it, but I was like. I just. I would have never. I would have never thought to wear that ever. I would have never been like, I'm gonna wear jeans and a tank top.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Naomi.

[Naomi Smalls]

Hi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're on the pod. How's. How was things going at Roscoe's?

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, it was good. I was just watching some drag before the finale where we watch our sister Monet X change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know we love, we stand. So listen real quick. Do you remember during our finale when Kim, when we had to go down the aisle And Kim was trying to appear from behind the LED wall.

[Naomi Smalls]

I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you remember me throwing a hissy bit and being like, abso fucking lutely not.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, I absolutely remember. We were gonna walk down the aisle unless you said something, because it was not even in my brain. But her dress was so big. According to her,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

that's what I. And Kim was like, I have to come from behind the wall telling y', all, y' all need to figure some shit out. We need to do a jump cut or something. I was like, but me and Naomi are not walking down the aisle while Kim appears from behind a fucking LED wall. And I think they even ran it once. And I was watching, and I was like. I was sitting next to you, and I was like, no, no.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh. It was made up in Kim's mind. She was like, I have to be the only one that does this. I will be Violet Chachki of the night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that was not happening. Anyway, I just want. I was trying to remember if they actually ran it with her during rehearsal or not.

[Naomi Smalls]

I don't think so. It was like, during the rehearsal, you were like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Monet X Change]

That was me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The whole. That was me during this. During the promo tour. During the. The. During the promo shoot, I would just look around and be like, no, we not doing that.

[Naomi Smalls]

You were the first person I ever met that was like that. And that's why I love you so much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How powerful no is I'd be acting like I am really running Z.

[Naomi Smalls]

All right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love you, baby. Lord. All right, I love you, baby.

[Podcast Producer]

Bye.

[Naomi Smalls]

Love you. Bye.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I love Naomi.

[Monet X Change]

How many times can you say we love Naomi? But, yeah, so Violet crushed it. She turned it, and it's just. Even the details having the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, wait. What did you think of. What did you think of. Of Simone's look?

[Monet X Change]

I thought it was cool. You know me. I am. I. I. I love. I love casual Dragon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It has a step down look.

[Monet X Change]

As a step down. It's not. I would not do it for the step down. I would have. It's not something that I would have done, but I can acknowledge that point of that. I think it's a cool point of view. I mean, maybe if I would have done it, I would have done it differently. Like, maybe like, do, like a denim jean gown look, something like that, but not just, like denim jeans, like a T shirt. I would have maybe did something else. But I mean, to be fair, in

[Bob the Drag Queen]

her defense, it's not just a T shirt. It was like a sculpture. But right I do agree. I would. But I will say this. I think that her step down look was the most talked about step down look, I genuinely think, in Drag Race, maybe not more than Violet. Violet one maybe say, but. But outside of Violet's, it was one of the most talked about step down looks in the history of the show. People were, like, talking about her frame very long ago.

[Monet X Change]

Bianca coming out and fully. Her body fully encrusted in sequin. People will, it wasn't sequins.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was glitter.

[Monet X Change]

Glitter, whatever. People. People were gagged by that. That was creepy. Everyone. I don't remember when that. When that came out, people was like, what the fuck work?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I don't think it created as much conversation as Simone's piece because it was controversial. Like, it was people, like, there was a lot of back and forth. There was a lot of conversation about it. But, you know, who knows? I can't quantify it. I'm sure someone on the Internet can run the diagnostics and Google search. Simone stepped down look, and then look at all the trend and see when it was peaking, people were wild on the Internet.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so when you said I was a Tien of Three, as RuPaul is like, obviously, we know they recorded Bob winning, Kim winning, and Naomi winning. But when it was airing, were you, like, were you. When it was airing, like, you were about to find out in real life, were you, like, did you know you won or you thought maybe Kim was gonna win?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So let me. So I just. I just got a little tea and I found this out. When they film all the finales, like, each option, they actually edit each one and send all of them in. So even the producers, like, so even there's like maybe three producers on Drag Race who know who wins Drag Race, but even the editors who edit the show don't know who won Drag Race. They are. They are asked to edit all three versions or four or however versions there are, and they send all of them in and the network only airs one. I thought they just edited one and sent it over.

[Monet X Change]

No, I mean, I knew that from. Since All Stars 4, I knew that All Stars 4 was what, season 12. They had a last minute thing editing Sherry out, and then All Stars 4, they. Apparently, there was a whole kerfuffle with that because, as you know. Is that like, imovie bootleg thing that we saw?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you mean editing Sherry out. Alaska did a thing editing.

[Podcast Producer]

Huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Alaska did a thing editing Sherri out.

[Monet X Change]

What do you mean, Alaska? No, and I'm season 12. They had to Edit Sherry out of the final thing. Like, oh, yeah, yeah. Because, you know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, scammy shit. But anyway, yeah, when I was watching it, I didn't know because I really. To be honest, I really got in my head. I felt pretty confident almost the entire season up until. I'll never forget the moment. It was during RuPaul's keynote speech. And I could hear RuPaul giving her keynote speech from my booth at DragCon. Or I was walking outside and I could hear it, and I was listening to them. Like, RuPaul was like, are you team Bob? And there was cheering. Are you team Naomi? And there was cheering. Are you Team Kim? And it was like the roof went off the place. And I remember that really affected. From that moment on, it just really affected my. Like, I was like, I don't think I'm. I don't think I might. I might not win Drag Race. I actually might not win Drag Race. This is wild. There's a real chance that I'm winning isn't everything. Oh, my God. What you asking me, bitch?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know what I'm talking about. Because when this comes out, winning isn't everything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We don't know. We don't know. We have not watched yet. And, girl, I saw the link and

[Monet X Change]

the tea was there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've got my deros de los manos crossed, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you so much. But the leak. The leak doesn't have been. Had leaked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I saw. I saw the leak and it was leaked. So, anyway, so, you know, if you want to see my live reaction, Viacom or VH1 or. I think that was Paramount or RuPaul's Drag Race. One of the channels has. The name of the channel keeps changing, but VH1, at the time, now, Paramount posted, you know, our live reaction, and it seemed like him and Amy Nuke, they were looking at me while I was looking at the screen. Well, Kim was looking at me, and it was a whole wonderful, wonderful moment. I won RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

You were crying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Very. I was crying. I was. I won Drag Race. Cynthia Lee Fontaine won Miss Congeniality. And. And I think at the time, I was the longest reigning. I think for a while, I was the longest reigning queen of Drag Race. Just based on time, not based on anything else. Well, I might have made that up, though. I was either the shortest running of all. There was something like. Something like that.

[Monet X Change]

Congratulations, Bob the Drag Queen. I'm very proud of you.

[Naomi Smalls]

I was very happy.

[Monet X Change]

I remember watching the Pieces. I was very happy when you won and you're my little. My little baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, thank you very much. Thank you all for. Thank you all for watching Season of Watry A Retrospectively. And maybe we can announce this now. Just so you all know, our next season of Retrospective RE will be watchery.

[Monet X Change]

Stop confusing people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, will be of RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 7.

[Monet X Change]

We're doing All Star 7. We're gonna talk about the shit from top to bottom, the real rip, the shit that went down that people trying to. We're talking about all of it. I don't give a man.

[Podcast Producer]

Let's promo Wednesday's episode as well.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, so that's starting next Monday, this Wednesday. So as soon as I got the call, I called Bob and we had benchmarked. Along the way of me getting ready, we would do podcasts and recorded. So all of these podcasts, like a year ago. And I was getting ready for the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Simone hadn't even won Drag Race yet.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. I hadn't even won Drag Race yet. And it's like me and Val talking about. About, like, me going in, who I think is going to be there, who I'm going to dust, who I don't think is competition. Like, all this stuff. So all the realty that we recorded over a year ago, we're releasing this coming Wednesday, and we'll put them out throughout the season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, yeah, so just so you know, so just to give you an example, we are literally. It was. We were. We were documenting, like, everything before monetary.

[Podcast Producer]

March 25, 2021.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, March 25, 2021. We were documenting what it was like, you know, once we found. Once we found out. And me and Monet were trying to, like, I would, you know, help her get her package together and send her off. And I think we did an interview when she got back, too. I feel like right when she got back, we may have done an interview. Did we, Jacob?

[Podcast Producer]

No, we did not.

[Monet X Change]

No, we.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We did not.

[Podcast Producer]

But we could do one now and pretend.

[Naomi Smalls]

But.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And. And we also. And we also. I think we did a. We did a Snatch Game rehearsal. Yeah, that's true. We reveal who gave Monet the idea to do Mike Tyson. We reveal a lot of stuff that is going to be very exciting. And we may or may not have some extra special guest joining us throughout the season. So we are gonna be.

[Monet X Change]

We also may be doing a special something with the full cast of All Stars 7. So a lot of good, fun stuff coming down the pipeline.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, girl, the civic rivalry Patreon is about to be Bandanas honey, it's about to be quiet.

[Monet X Change]

Morning, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

Come on in. It's about to be wild. Take me for a ride, boy. Show me your wild side, boy. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right. So thank you all so much, and we will talk to you all soon. Bye, everyone.

[Jacob]

Man.