Sibling Watchery - Drag Race Season 8 - Episode 8

Summary

Sibling Rivalry: Sibling Watchery - Drag Race Season 8, Episode 8

Hosted by: Monét X Change & Bob The Drag Queen
Release Date: July 18, 2022

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Main Theme

In this episode of "Sibling Watchery," Monét X Change and Bob The Drag Queen take a deep dive into RuPaul's Drag Race Season 8, Episode 8—the "Book Ball" challenge. The duo breaks down the drama, reads, and runway moments of the top five queens, with their signature blend of humor, sharp opinion, and behind-the-scenes tea. Along with runway critiques, they dissect the interpersonal dynamics driving the episode, with special attention to the ongoing Naomi vs. Derrick eyebrow saga and Monét's own bottom-two experience.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Opening Banter: Video Games, Sibling Energy & Combative Moods

[00:37–05:00]

• Bob opens humming the Mario theme, sparking a nostalgic video game discussion.
• Playful argument over whether the famous Mario “underground theme” appears in every Mario game, leading to a light-hearted back-and-forth about “victory” and comments online.
  • Quote:
    “Victory tastes and smells.” – Bob, [03:25]
  • Quote:
    “I never said you were wrong. I said. I don't know.” – Monét, [03:14]
• Tension emerges as Monét accuses Bob of being combative, kicking off the siblingish dynamic of the episode.
  • Quote:
    “You're really on one today...” – Monét, [03:57]
• Bob mentions an upgrade to his home setup, asking Monét if she’s excited (she’s not), setting a teasing and candid tone.

Review of End of Thorgy’s Run & Naomi vs. Derrick Drama

[06:30–13:51]

• Thorgy Thor has just gone home; discussion of her “shady” mirror message and whether it was mean or just typical Drag Race banter.
  • Quote:
    “She knew what she said was less than savory, and she said it anyway.” – Monét, [07:21]
• Naomi Smalls persistently tells Derrick Berry she should have been in the bottom, “her calling card,” sparking debate about why queens call each other out like this.
  • Quote:
    “I just don't get why girls look another girl in the face and go, 'I'm just shocked you weren't in the bottom.'” – Monét, [10:08]
• Bob frames it as something queens do both on TV and in drag dressing rooms, aiming to get a reaction.
• Discussion of the ongoing eyebrow saga: Naomi harangues Derrick for not blocking brows, despite Naomi herself not blocking hers.
  • Quote:
    “It's so weird because Naomi never covers her brows.” – Monét, [12:49]
  • Quote:
    “Naomi had good brows, though. Derek did not.” – Bob, [13:06]

The Puppet Reading Challenge

[13:51–18:28]

• Queens impersonate each other using puppets—a Drag Race tradition.
• Bob and Monét reminisce on the inside references and production choices (such as Monet's puppet having hair, though she was bald on the season).
• Standout puppet show quotes:
  • Quote:
    “I wear 301s, cunt!” – Derrick Barry (via puppet), [17:11]
  • Quote:
    “Let's talk about your 2-inch heels…” – Kim, [17:38]
• Consensus: Chi Chi Devayne aced the puppet challenge.

The Book Ball: Challenge Structure & Production Tea

[18:43–28:06]

• Explanation of the Book Ball categories:

  • Baby drag (originally “first time in drag” but changed last minute)
  • Homage to their own mothers
  • A design look made from actual books/paper
  • Quote:
    “All of our baby drag looks we actually had to make there. They did not air this…” – Monét, [19:28]

• Naomi and Derrick’s feud escalates (“I have thick skin”—Naomi; “Looks like it.” – Derrick).

  • Quote:
    “And Derek has thin hair.” – Naomi, [20:37]

• Kimchi’s role as attempted peacemaker vs. the group instigator dynamic.

  • Quote:
    “Kim was usually trying to diffuse it…” – Monét, [21:18]

• Behind-the-scenes correction: the photo shown of Chi Chi’s mom was actually her drag mom—a fact not caught by production.

Social Media, Sibling Dragons & Family Fame

[22:26–25:04]

• The group learns Naomi Smalls has 11 siblings, prompting stories of randomly meeting her kin in the wild.
• Stories about the minor social fame of their own families on TikTok, and whether their relatives brag online about their drag success.

The Makeup Clash: Hurt, Bullying, and Brow Drama

[25:10–29:44]

• The intense in-episode bickering over makeup and beauty hits Monét personally.
  • Quote:
    “I felt like I was being bullied… Kimchi kept saying, ‘you just look like you’re not wearing makeup’…” – Monét, [26:04]
  • Quote:
    “They just called you ugly.” – Naomi, summarizing the group’s remarks to Monét, [27:26]
• Discussion about learning to block brows for drag, “oatmeal phase,” and if future contestants should just shave their brows.
  • Quote:
    “Don’t go on TV with lumpy oatmeal eyebrows, bitch. Shave them bitches off. They grow back.” – Bob, [29:33]
  • Quote:
    “I never had oatmeal brows!” – Monét, [30:02]
  • Bob and Monét argue about their own brow journeys, culminating in classic playful bickering.

The Jerry Blank Performance

[31:37–35:59]

• Guest judges David and Amy Sedaris; Jerry Blank-inspired acting challenge.
• Hilariously muddled conversation about Amy Sedaris' marital status and her relation to David.
  • Quote:
    “You don't think she's funny?” – Bob, [33:12]
  • Both ultimately agree Amy Sedaris was a great, unserious judge.
• The performance challenge is deemed a “fever dream” top five set-piece, particularly odd even by Drag Race standards.

Runway Critiques: Look-by-Look Judging

[36:24–51:10]

Kim Chi

• Bob is “gagged” by her oversized, plant-inspired runway trilogy and paper construction skills.
  • Quote:
    “Kim fucking shut it down. Shut it down.” – Bob, [39:00]
  • Some nitpicking about narrative order; overall, both hosts are highly complimentary.

Naomi Smalls

• Praised for nailing the “baby drag” literalness, her creative use of a RuPaul t-shirt, and runway construction.
  • Quote:
    “I genuinely think that Naomi should have won this challenge… all three looks are really good.” – Monét, [41:38]

Monét (Bob)

• Clever recreation of a photo of his mother for the runway, but admits to using cardboard for the “book look” (as did Kim).
• Quote:
  “Some snitch-ass bitch ratted on me and told them I used cardboard…” – Monét, [44:19]
• Wig for the runway was borrowed from Bob.

Derrick Barry

• Ongoing brow critiques and shifting shapes for each runway, with mixed results.
• Derrick’s pride in her book look contrasts with co-contestant shade.
  • Quote:
    “I genuinely think this should be put up in a museum…” – Monét quoting Derrick, [47:04]
  • “That is literally just delusion.” – Bob, [47:42]

Chi Chi Devayne

• Applauded for using her actual mother’s dress and southern pageant polish.
• Hosts love her book look, especially the ponytail and pink lipstick.
  • Quote:
    “I think Chichi looks stellar.” – Bob, [49:48]

Behind-the-Scenes Production Tea

• All contestants have access to communal corsets, pads, petticoats, and “drag supply bins.”
• Judges' remarks spark nostalgia for how much the cast (including Ross Mathews) has evolved.

Bottom Two & Lip Sync Drama

[51:10–56:38]

• Monét lands in the bottom two with Derrick Barry for the Sylvester classic “Mighty Real.”
• Bob jokes about rooting for Derrick. Monét describes losing her earrings during the lip sync (big jewelry “is just physics…”).
  • Quote:
    “Every single lip sync of the season, y’all hoes lose shoes, hair, jewelry…” – Bob, [53:02]
• Monét reflects on internalizing judges’ comments about not being “glamorous” and how this impacted her drag.
  • Quote:
    “I really internalized this, like, this reading of me not being glamorous and not having big makeup and not having big earrings…” – Monét, [55:40]

The Significance of an All-Queens-of-Color Top Four

[56:44–58:55]

• Bob and Monét clarify Drag Race trivia regarding all-queens-of-color finale lineups, reviewing history from past seasons.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Victory tastes and smells.” – Bob, [03:25]
• “This is the last time y'all are going to see this old raggedy setup behind me. The Container Store is about to come here tomorrow and fucking step my pussy all the way up, honey.” – Bob, [05:24]
• “Sheena Mood, honey, that is your name. Sheena Mood.” – Bob, mocking Monét, [06:12]
• “You go from zero to negative 60 real quick. Get your shit together. Crack a smile!” – Bob, [06:12]
• “And Derek has thin hair.” – Naomi (via Monét), [20:37]
• “Kim was really harassing me, quite frankly, this whole episode.” – Monét, [28:06]
• “Don’t go on TV with lumpy oatmeal eyebrows, bitch. Shave them bitches off. They grow back.” – Bob, [29:33]
• “Kim fucking shut it down. Shut it down.” – Bob, on Kimchi’s runway, [39:00]
• “That is literally just delusion.” – Bob, on Derrick’s book look, [47:42]
• “Every single lip sync of the season, y’all hoes lose shoes, hair, jewelry…” – Bob, [53:02]

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Important Timestamps

• [06:30] – Discussion of Thorgy’s exit and Naomi’s “bottom callouts.”
• [13:51] – The Puppet Reading Challenge break-down.
• [18:43] – Introduction to Book Ball, challenge prompt tea.
• [25:10] – Makeup and beauty argument (leads into bullying conversation).
• [31:37] – Jerry Blank acting performance segment.
• [36:24] – Detailed runway critiques begin.
• [51:10] – Lip sync discussion: Monét vs. Derrick, “Mighty Real.”

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Tone & Language

As ever, Monét and Bob keep the tone irreverent, shady, and deliciously honest. They spill behind-the-scenes tea and offer pointed, often hilarious critiques, constantly ribbing each other and looping in the audience as third siblings. The episode is full of playful bickering, anecdotal detours, and signature Sibling Rivalry warmth that makes casual commentary feel like essential fandom analysis.

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Summary

This episode blends comedic recap, Drag Race history, personal vulnerability, and shade—a quintessential "Sibling Watchery." From the puppet reading challenge to the drama of makeup, beauty, and blocked brows, and ending with a reflective look at queer representational milestones, Bob and Monét offer both classic fan insight and unique behind-the-scenes perspectives.
If you're looking for a rundown of the drama, the runways, and the shade—with plenty of quotable moments—this episode delivers.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Denim, denim, denim, denim, Denim, Denim, denim, denim, denim.

[Monét X Change]

Why are you singing this theme song?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was just in my head. I have fond memories growing up with my brothers and my cousins, playing N64 and playing. Which, y' all know, the Super Mario that came out for N64. That was like everything. It was like the best shit. And I have.

[Monét X Change]

They have that song on the 64 Mario?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Oh, it's probably in every Mario, to be honest.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, I vividly remember it from Super Nintendo, but not from N64.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, it's part of the Mario multiverse of madness, girl. They. And Nintendo owns the rights of the song, so they probably put in. I'm sure they probably put in every Mario game.

[Monét X Change]

Probably.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Not probably. They do. Why do you have to probably me?

[Monét X Change]

You can say they do because I don't know. I can't. I don't. I mean.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm telling you. I'm telling you, honey.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, I don't think you know for sure either. I think you. I mean, it's probably. It's probably a safe assumption. But you know for a fact that that song is in every iteration of

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the Mario game of Mario. Like Mario, like super. Like, saving the world. Like galaxy paper Mario 1964, the Mario Deluxe. Those Marios. I don't know about tennis and golf and darts and Mario fucking ice climbers. I don't know about all those, but I know about.

[Monét X Change]

Well, you know what happens now? The comic's gonna be full of people just telling you how wrong you are. Like, actually, it wasn't in this version. It wasn't in this version. It wasn't in this version.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or comments telling me how right I am. That's also another possibility.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, did you play the original Mario?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, of course. I mean, who. Yes, everyone is.

[Monét X Change]

I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you.

[Monét X Change]

You had a Super Nintendo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did. I've had every. I've had every game system since I've been alive. Every system. Did you have. Did you have a Dreamcast.

[Monét X Change]

I did have Dreamcast, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you really?

[Monét X Change]

I certainly did. I also had a SEGA Saturn. I've. I've literally had. I had a SEGA Saturn, which no one had.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not true. We had. We had a SEGA Saturn. We had.

[Monét X Change]

Not literally no one, Monet. Jesus Christ.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We had. We had everything going up. Anyway, look in the comments below.

[Monét X Change]

What I'm getting at is I do not know if there was any reiteration, but I'm sure some video game historian down below will let you know if you're right or if you're wrong. I don't have a particular stake in this conversation. Monet is right. It's called the underground theme, and it's pretty consistently used in every Mario game Since the original 1985 Super Mario Bros.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Victory.

[Monét X Change]

I'm going to reiterate. I never said you were wrong. I said. I don't know. I literally said probably. This was not. This was literally not an argument. I said probably because I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Victory tastes and smells.

[Monét X Change]

Victory over who? Who do you have a victory over?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, listen, I'm having a victory with myself. I have the victory in Christ Jesus, and I have the victory over you in this situation. I feel very alive.

[Monét X Change]

I just don't know how you have a victory over me when I literally said probably. I literally just don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's okay. You know what, Jabba? Check the comments out. They'll let you know, honey.

[Monét X Change]

They'll let me know what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, you'll see.

[Monét X Change]

Okay, I am not interested in doing a podcast with you today. All right? Let's start this fucking thing. You are really on one today in

[Bob the Drag Queen]

a very combative mood for no reason. Combative because you are, like, starting a

[Monét X Change]

fight when no one's fighting. Like, no one's not a good fight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no one's not a good fight, baby. I. You know, I have been trying to reach out to you for the last couple days.

[Monét X Change]

I guess I'm going to have to screenshot and show how false all that information is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know you got a screenshot. I'll put it right on the screen right now. I've called you three times in the past couple days, Bob, and you know,

[Monét X Change]

you're both in the same city. Are you going to try to see each other?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would love to see Bob the Drag Queen. I really would. I really.

[Monét X Change]

The last text we have between you and I is from me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not text, call. And also the last for me. No, it's from me group texting you. Kennedy And Jacob, about something, because I called you three times about that thing and you never responded. And again, I get it. You were on location filming, and I get it.

[Monét X Change]

You're very busy. It seems like you're coming into the podcast with some. Like, you're upset about something and you really want to talk about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To quote Shea, do I look upset to you? Do I look upset to you?

[Monét X Change]

Honestly? Yes, you do. I look upset.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is the face of anger and upset. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I want to also let the people

[Monét X Change]

know, everyone who's watching feelings are heard about something, and you want to talk about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm very excited to everyone looking who watch. Who's watching the video right now. This is the last time y' all are going to see this old raggedy setup behind me. The Container Store is about to come here tomorrow and fucking step my pussy all the way up, honey. She's on another echelon. That's a Botanica Tron, but the million I'm about to be on. So I'm very excited. I'm very, very, very excited.

[Monét X Change]

Today we're reviewing RuPaul's Drag Race Episode 8 from Season 8.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob, are you excited for me?

[Monét X Change]

No. We're reviewing RuPaul's Drag Race episode 8, Season 8, and at the top of the episode. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hold up, hold up, hold up. I'm not excited. You want me to talk about something I'm not excited about? I'm not particularly excited about you getting a new closet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you care that I'm getting a new closet?

[Monét X Change]

I mean, to some degree, maybe. Maybe in some realm, to some degree, she is

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sheena. Sheena Mood. Honey, that is your name. Sheena Mood. Sheena Mood. You really got wild. You went from zero to negative 60. Real quick, get your shit together. We have to do a podcast, Mary. So pep it on up. Crack a smile. Pep it on the up.

[Monét X Change]

Drag Race, episode eight, season eight. At the top of the episode, Thorgy has just gone home.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How do you feel about her mirror message?

[Monét X Change]

Well, like I said last week, you know, it was. Thurgy was obviously in her feelings about something or the other. And I didn't take it personally. Whatever Thurgy was going through during, you know, Drag Race was her own personal journey of her being angry or upset or jealous or whatever she was. So she left a very shady message, which she acknowledged was shady in the message, but maybe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think that maybe there's, like, a little gesture trying to do, like, little. A little shady, like fun, not like, shady mean, or did it come across mean to you?

[Monét X Change]

I don't think it was about it being necessarily mean or not mean, but I think that she knew that what she said was. Was less than savory, and she said it anyway. So I think that she. I don't think that she was, like, this clueless, like, oh, what am I saying? I. I've never. Like, I think that she says something shady, and she knew it was shady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ed, did a lot of girls feel that way when y' all were reading it? Everyone was like, oh, whoa. Or was everyone Kit Katting about it?

[Monét X Change]

I don't think anyone really cared. Like, kind of like how. How Kim said Kim was like, well, it doesn't really matter because she's gone. Like, everyone was like, well, she was being kind of negative, and now she's gone. But also, when you're a drag race, you. You're too busy. You have. You have too much to do to be worried to. To sit around. Bitch. I'm too busy to ruminate on whether or not Thor G wanted to, you know, stir up drama or something. I mean, I think she knew a shady. And we were like, all right, girl. Anyway, moving on. We got to do work. Especially when you're in the top five. You are. You are. Like, it's just. It starts to get very busy, and you're also very, very tired and, like, just completely exhausted, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you feel tired and exhausted today? I feel a little tired and exhausted today.

[Monét X Change]

You look a little tired and exhausted. So Naomi tells Derek, my makeup is tired and exhausted. So you're right. The makeup I'm wearing today is exhausted. And then Naomi and Derek. So Naomi does. Well, does this thing where she is very interested in. She likes to tell Derek when she thinks she should have been in the bottom, and she said it to her face all the time. She's always like, I thought Derek was going to be in the bottom. And she. I'm like, damn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is.

[Monét X Change]

She's. It is a. It is very common for Naomi to do this on the show at this point.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is. It is. It is Naomi's calling card, and I kind of love it.

[Monét X Change]

Specifically. Specifically, Darren.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Knowing Naomi Smalls, I'm like, it's even funnier to me because Naomi is such a sweet lady. But Naomi is also very opinionated. It's very funny to see her letting her opinions be known.

[Monét X Change]

Well, I just don't know why girls always want to tell other girls that they think they should have been in

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the bottom like you did in the Other episode.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, I've been through the drag Race machine now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. But you say you don't understand it, so you should think, why did you do it when you did it? Who did I say that to a couple episodes ago? Something about. I think it was to Derek maybe, but you tried to make a joke about it and then Derek.

[Monét X Change]

No, no, no. That's not what happened. That's not what happened. What happened was they said that Derrick Berry was like, really should go on tour. And then I said, oh, I wanna. They might have been on drugs. That's not the same as being like, I don't know why you weren't in the bottom. I don't understand when girls feel they need to share. Like, I think you should have been in the bottom. I was shocked that you were not in the bottom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't understand why girls do that.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, it is a little bit shocking to me when girls go look at another girl and go, I'm just really shocked that you were not in the bottom. That is just seems like something that could only stir up drama. I don't know what other reaction that could have besides people arguing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I think a lot of Drag Race, like I've said before, like, it echoes, like, kind of what happens, like, in Drag Race in dressing rooms across America, and girls say shady things sometimes to each other to sometimes solicit a reaction, and sometimes you guess, sometimes you don't. And so it's not shocking to me that girl, like, girl, bitch. I've been backstage a queen, and people saying something to someone else, and everybody's like, ooh, not saying that to her. I think this is very. This is typical behavior for queens backstage.

[Monét X Change]

I didn't say it's atypical. I said, I find it surprising. For me, I would never do that. I just don't normally be like, you did a bad. Like, I don't normally tell people after a competition or something that I think they should have done worse than they actually did. That is. That is. I would never do that. So I just. I'm always like. It's so interesting when people tell people that they think they should have been in the bottom. I just. I just. I just don't think that's something I would do. I mean, unless someone asked me. Someone asked me, or if I was or if I'm specifically doing a thing where I'm, like, paid to give my opinion. So if it's a thing where I'm, like, meant to give my opinion about something, then, yeah, I'll give My opinion, but I usually don't go around being like, you should have been in the bottom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I don't know.

[Monét X Change]

Maybe that's something you do. I don't do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. I mean, it's also tv. I'm sure there's like, a. You know, whatever. Who knows why people do shit? It's television. People do things a little differently than they would in real life, for sure. We've seen this time and time again on this damn show. Like Fifi on All Stars 2. Like, oh, yeah, When Alyssa popped up like, you're that girl. I knew you were. She's like. Like, we.

[Monét X Change]

There is, like. There was, like, something about how she felt about something. But this is. Derek, we're being like, you should have been in the bottom, and I'm shocked that you weren't there. That is just gonna breed confrontation. Especially when you. When you look someone in their face and say it. Now, we often. We all go. So, like, after a show, I think it's pretty standard. So, like, after a pageant or a competition or show to discuss with people, like, how things went down. I'm also intrigued by the fact that Derek. That Naomi is interested. Naomi is really harping on Derrick Berry not blocking her brows or covering her brows, especially because Naomi doesn't cover her brows also.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But it's also for me. And in this case, I'm like, bitch. I'm like. Like, kind of with Thorgy being so obsessed with Chi Chi not doing whatever. I'm like, bitch, why? Like, if she's doing bad, that's good for you. Like, it's gonna propel you forward. Same thing with Naomi and Derek. I'm like, derek is not doing this thing with her brows. Like, it's only gonna make her look bad. So I'll be like, bitch, keep on not doing it. I think I love it.

[Monét X Change]

I don't even think not covering her brow makes her look bad. I think it's that they all, like, focus on this one specific thing about her makeup, and they decided to. They landed on the brows. And it's so weird because Naomi never covers her brows. Like, that's what made it so wild to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But Naomi had good brows, though Derek did not. So it's something that you look at Derek's face and you're like, that's really off.

[Monét X Change]

Well, I mean, good brows is subjective,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

but, sure, it's drag. Everything's subjective.

[Monét X Change]

But I think is. I think there are ways to change your makeup without specifically focusing on the brow. Especially for someone who's never Done it before. That is pretty hard to do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, that's great though, because then, bitch, they're going to as we will see, try it and fuck it up.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, I guess. So strategy. And then we do the puppet show. I, I don't, I don't think Naomi was doing strategy. I think Naomi was literally wanting to cover her brows and create a new mug. I think that's the show. And then we did the puppet show. I love the puppet show. The puppet show is bas just a reading challenge through impersonation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

And we were all confused when they pulled out my puppet. I don't know why my puppet had hair. I was like, I don't know what form of me this puppet is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They probably some of your casting that. Those the ones that you said with you with hair, your dreads. I mean, this is from like seasons

[Monét X Change]

ago in, in the, in the video I sent them for this one. I did not have any hair. And I mean, it'd be weird if they decided to. If they randomly, instead of taking footage of me in the work room where I didn't have hair, went back to my season, you know, for audition tape and made a puppet from that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was this 2016? When did you didn't shave your hair like the year before this?

[Monét X Change]

No, I shaved my head the entire time I was at Drag Race. I didn't have any hair. And most of us are made from like they reference us from us being the ruin. I don't think they pull up old audition tapes to make our puppets.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. I mean, but we oftentimes rule is like, we'll say something like, I've been watching you girls for years. I remember. But I mean, again, I don't know how much actually be remembering from our previous audition tapes, but you know, maybe, maybe, maybe you with hair really, really struck a chord with RuPaul and he just really liked that Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monét X Change]

You're right. Maybe there's a chance that RuPaul was just watching an old video of me with hair. And then went over to the people who make the puppets and said, please faction.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're like, we want some hair on this nigga.

[Monét X Change]

Off of Bob's season seven makeup thing.

[Shannon Maldonado]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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what I'm really interested in is during this puppet reading challenge, I feel like me, Derek, Chi Chi and Kim are all doing some silly stuff and Naomi and Derek are just calling out the things they don't like about each other in the middle of a puppet show with very few punchlines involved at all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love it. I love it. I love Savage Naomi. Savage Naomi's my favorite. She be cutting deep.

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Well when she was like, I need to have the smallest lashes. And Derrick Barrett goes, I wear three on one's cunt. That's one of my favorite lines from the episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, I'm looking at Derek. I'm like, does she wear 301s, girl? No way. She must cut the ends off to really be like a fucking two on one. Which I was guilty of doing back in the day. I wear tiny lashes now though, a lot. Tiny. Whatever.

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I also love when Kim says, let's talk about your 2 inch hills. I really think that's just a funny line. Let's talk about a very funny line. And also, just so you guys know, so we do the whole thing, Chi Chi wins. Which I agree. Chi Chi did a very good job in her puppet show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Chi Chi was very funny. Chi Chi was really especially meeting her at the season at the VOSS events stage 48 show before the season was announced. Watching, I was like, she's not gonna be funny. And then me and who was it? Who was I with? Myself, Chichi, and someone else. It wasn't Patty, anyway. We were all, like, sitting next to Kiki and talking. I was like, this bitch is really funny. And watching the season scene, stuff like this and seeing some of her commentary, I was like, wow. I think Chi Chi's a. Was a very funny gal.

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Chi was very, very, very funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We were sitting at the thing upstairs, and she All y' all were going downstairs to do whatever, and then I was like, one of the last people upstairs. And I looked up, I was like, hey, girl, you're not going downstairs. And she's like, girl, I ain't even took it. And I don't think she ever ended up tucking the night. It was great.

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She probably wore a flouncy dress so she didn't have to. I remember that moment. And just so we get our challenge, we have to do It's a ball. It's the book ball. We have to do a baby drag look. A look where we represent our moms. And then a look made out of books. And when we first got the prompt, baby drag was first time in drag. It was not drag queen drag as a baby. It was first time in drag drag. So all of us had these first time in drag looks that we prepared but never got to see the light of day. And all of us, say again, what was yours? Mine was. I mean, I think I. I vaguely remember having, like, a leotard and wearing control top pantyhose instead of, like, capizios or dance tights. And I had L and R written on my head pad so you could see them through. You can see my pads through the tights. And I can't remember some other stuff. It was just, like, a bunch of stuff, like, representing us, like, first time out in drag. So all of our baby drag looks we actually had to make there, they did not air this, but all of our baby drag looks we made there, along with our book looks, because they changed our baby drag looks at the last time, at the last minute. I mean.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, we'll talk to them, because I have some questions about them things when we get to the baby drag lurk thing.

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And then this is when Derek. And so I feel like Derek. Naomi started reading Derek as, like, a joke. And then it starts getting too real in this thing. And this is when Naomi says, I have thick skin. One of my other favorite lines from the show. And then Derek goes in, and it looks like it. And then Naomi says, and Derek has thin hair. And that is one of my. That is a moment I think about all the time. And after she said that, I think it really struck a chord with Derek. Because Derek, for a long time could be like, I'm getting the hair. So I'm gonna get that. The moment I get the moment I save up the money and get a break from work, I'm getting the hair surgery.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She said this on camera.

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I mean, she probably said while cameras were rolling. But I don't remember if it aired or not. But it's something I heard Derek say quite a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did Derek ever get hair surgery?

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I do not know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Work.

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But she was pretty open about it with us, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it.

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And Derek has thin hair. And I, of course, screamed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I also love Kimchi. Just kind of instigating, too, with all of her. I mean, y'.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not instigating with y' all reactions. Cause they are funny. But when a group of girls are reading other. And everybody's like. Is like jumping on the back of someone's reading, like, ah. It really makes the other person be like you. Which is, you know.

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Well, I feel like Kim was usually trying to. I mean, can we. Can we.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can we love each other?

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Yeah, me. Me and Chichi were doing that. But Kim was usually trying to diffuse it. Actually, like, I don't think Kim was actually, like, trying to. Kim was using his. Like, if girls were arguing, Kim would say stuff like, when's dinner? Or she'd be like, let's just hug. Or she'd be like, come on, guys.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which is so crazy. That is not the Kim I know.

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Kim was instigating. Kim was, like, the only one not instigating.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'd say that was just not the Kim idol. The Kim idol today will be all of it. And be like, get really egging it on.

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Well, work. The world has changed her. You work the world a couple times and you become a whole different person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, Kimberly Chai.

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And they're really going in on the mama business here. They are really going in on the mom talk here. Also the video. The picture they show of Chi Chi's mom. That's not her mom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I heard this story.

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That's her drag mom, right? And she was like, good. That ain't my mom. And they never. I think they. I think they fixed it on some versions, but not on others. I can't remember. But that is. That is not Chichi's biological mother. That is Chichi's that's not the woman who raised Chichi. That's the drag queen who raised Chichi through the drag scene.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Damn. Well, somebody don't got got famous for being Chichi's mama.

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I was like, work. I think. I think that Chichi's dragon mom had passed away before this. I can't remember. I can't remember. It was. There's a. Obviously there's a lot going on. And we found out that Naomi has 11 siblings, which is. Which is so wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's very. It's giving. Cheaper by the dozen.

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Have you ever run into one of Naomi siblings?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, I met two or three of them or a half.

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No. Have you ever, like, just randomly wanted run into one? Because I have run into, like, two of them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, not randomly, no. Well, if I did, I didn't know

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they're a fucking gang. I mean, they are everywhere. They walked into me and be like, hey. I was like, are you Bob the drag queen? I was like, yes. And this guy was like, I'm Davis's brother. I didn't say that. He was like, I'm Davis's brother. It was. It was in an airport, some airport. This guy was just like, I'm. I'm. I'm Davis's brother. Davis Hepensol is my brother.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You.

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You run drag race together. And I was like, oh, you know, I reckon if there's 11 of y', all, I'm gonna run. I'm gonna end up running into one of y' all sooner or later at an airport or somewhere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Davis, I love Davis up in style,

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and I met a few of them through Naomi as well. I actually want to go to Redlands and visit June. See June and Redlands. Have you seen his niece's tick tocks? Oh, yeah, the nieces. The nieces make ticks. Have you seen these?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Jacob send me one in the chat.

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There's a tick Tock trend a while back that was like, who. Who is the famous person in your family? And then they'd be like, well, my uncle is Naomi Smalls. Naomi Smalls is my uncle. And it's like, is she, like, got big on Tick Tock for a while, being like, my uncle's Naomi Small. Like, here's a picture of me and my uncle growing up. And this is us again. And this is us again. And like, he was like, yeah, girl. My niece is really popping off on

[Bob the Drag Queen]

TikTok I Live, which maybe she posted a. It's a real. The other day. She looks so beautiful.

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My nieces and nephew. My niece and nephew have one in one. Do not post. Well, my niece is on Tik Tok, but her TikTok is also private because she's very young. And Naomi's niece is a lot older than my niece. I think she's like 18 now, work. And my niece is 12, so, yeah, she's not gonna have a tick tock that people can go see. Do your family. Do you have any family that post? Like, oh, now, my cousin. My cousin's Monet, or my.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't. I have my niece Lee, my niece, my cousin Leah, who's like 18 now, but she doesn't post anything like that.

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She does not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They did not. They did not. They did not boost me on the social media.

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Leah Hearns, you think she's ashamed? Probably.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Probably. I mean, I would be.

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I posted by you, though, despite everything. So this is the moment where we, where. Where we all are talking about. We're like talking about makeup. The. The conversation of makeup comes up, and this is when Derek and Naomi get into a massive fight that goes on, I'm telling you, all way longer than you think. It goes on. It went on. This was going on forever, ever. And it's again, it started out really lighthearted, but then it got really wild and then it turned on me somehow, and I was like, what? How did I get involved in this? And then suddenly, Kimchi just will not stop coming for me. And I was like, bitch, leave me alone. Like, I wasn't even trying to fight. I was just like, what? Why are y' all making fun of my looks so much on this day?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did anyone say anything to. About you before your makeup, before this, like, in the room, like, jokingly or stratish about Jamaica?

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I mean, maybe. I can't really remember. It was so long ago, but I remember this was the day where I was like, you guys are being. I was. I remember being like, if this feels like I'm being bullied, like, I was just sitting there trying to, like, make my fucking dress. And she kept being like. Kimchi kept being like, yeah, it just looks like you're just like, not wearing any makeup. And then Derek Breyer was like, yeah, I just feel like you just don't have beauty. Like the beauty that RuPaul has and all the winners have you. You just don't possess that level of beauty and elegance. And then. And then Kimchi kept me, yeah, it just looks like you're literally, literally, literally, literally looks like you're not wearing any makeup on your face at all. And I kept being like, this is wild. Why? And I was very hurt and irritated at that point.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why don't you say that? Why'd you get at him for that?

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Well, I. I wasn't interested in fighting. I was just hurt and irritated. I didn't say. I was, like, wanting to, like, hit them. I just kept being like, why are they making fun of me?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I say get at them, I say, like, express your feelings. But, like, can y' all stop? This is, like, really rude.

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I think I did express myself as well as I could in the moment, the best way that I could articulate myself while also trying to complete my task and, you know, manage all that at the same time. I think I did. I think I expressed myself as best as I could.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you know, you did the best you could with what you had, but I could. But I can see how watching it back could feel. It could be upsetting. Are you relieving that trauma?

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I mean, I wouldn't go. I mean, I guess anything could be called trauma. But what I was. I was. When I was watching, I was like, oh, I'm irritated again. Especially because Naomi basically pointed out how I felt, which was like, Naomi said, this has called you ugly. And I was like, I know this is wild. Like, I'm just sitting here trying to glue my corrugated cardboard to my piece. I was very emotional and upset. This up. This whole episode, this untucked, is also a mess. Maybe that's why you couldn't embrace the materials. This was the embrace of material episode when I was like, I was very irritated. This episode, Kim, she was really harassing me, quite frankly. This episode,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kimberly, Chai Chilate, getting the girls. Really getting the girls heads. That's probably why she won her. She had everybody downtrodden and feeling sad.

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I was like, stop harassing me, bitch. God damn. Let me fucking make my fucking outfits. And after Derek and Naomi have their massive blowout the next day, Naomi comes in and apologizes to Derek and says that June, her mother, would not have been proud of her. And she offers to help her. But this is hilarious, because this is the blind leading the blind. Because she's like, I'll help you cover your brows.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I brought her brows.

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And then she was like, so how do you do it? And Naomi goes, oh, I've never covered my brows. Which was really the icing on the cake of this whole episode of being like, you've got to do this. And then she was like, oh, I've literally never done this, not even once in my life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that is wild. I Would have been like, I think, Naomi, the apology was enough. Cause like, you trying to help this bitch and you don't know what you're doing, you're probably gonna make it worse for her.

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Like, neither is so wild. Cause neither one of them knows how to do it, but they're both trying to do something that neither one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So honestly, Derek should just shave his eyebrows off. It's Drag Race. They grow back. Shave him off, girl.

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Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I shaved Patty's off and mine. Yeah, I didn't have eyebrows for season 10.

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Oh, so I was having frost seven.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I have what I have now. But anyone who is gonna audition for the RuPaul's Drag Race and you do not know how to cover your eyebrows, shave them bitches off. And do it like a month before so you can do it a few times before you get there so you get the hang of it. Like painting without eyebrows, but just shave em off. Don't go on TV with lumpy oatmeal eyebrows, bitch. Shave them bitches off. They grow back. Trust me, I've done it many times.

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You can also learn how to cover. Like, learning to cover your brows is really not hard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not hard, but there's a learning curve. And then everyone who just starts to learn how to cover their brows goes to the oatmeal phase. It lasts for about three months. When you go through oatmeal phase,

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search for pictures. Search. Do all your searching. Search from here until the end of the earth. I never had oatmeal brows. Did you ever have an eyebrow face? Do what? You don't have eyebrows, really? I have very faint brows, but I never had an oatmeal phase.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob has maybe like a strand of hair in his eyebrows, so of course he.

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But you were just the same way that I went through an oatmeal face. So which one is it? Do I have no eyebrows? Did I go through oatmeal? Which one was it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob didn't go through an oatmeal phase, y'. All. So, you know, but you. If you have a hair, but you

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just see what it is. Which one was it? Was it oatmeal or no brows? Which one was it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna get to you in one second. If you have a lot of hair, the oatmeal phase is inevitable. Whether you use Pros Aide. I use all of them. Pros Aide, glue, whatever you're gonna go through, it's gonna happen. But if you wanna be on HD motherfucking cameras in front of Rupaul bitch. Shave them bitches off and just figure it out after the show is done. It'll be great.

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I didn't shave my brows on drag racing. I think I did pretty good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you know, let's ask Kim Chi.

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Let's Crown and Scepter, who did?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, she has some notes. Kimchi has some notes on that ass.

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Well, you know what? RuPaul has some notes for me, too. And I really appreciated the notes that RuPaul gave me.

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Today we also had to do a Jerry Blank inspired performance from Strangers With Candy. Are you at all familiar with Strangers With Candy?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not. I know it's a very big show. I know Amy Sedaris from. She has a new show. I don't know if it still goes on at Home with Amy Sedan, which is very funny. I didn't know she was married, which is great. Good for her. What's his name? David Sedaris. David Sedaris and Amy Sedaris. They're very cute.

[Monét X Change]

Monet. What are you talking. What the fuck are you talking about?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

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Monet. Did you watch the episode Tamar?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

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That's her brother. Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did it say that that is her

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brother, Davis Adaris Avis Sedaris. Brother.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, well, I didn't know she had a brother either. I don't know if she was married or had a brother.

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But you are. You are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

News to me. Does she have a sister, too? Now, next you're gonna tell me she has parents. No way.

[Monét X Change]

But also, why do you think she's married? I mean, she might be married. I don't know if she is or not. Amos. I don't think she's married. No, she is married. She marries a guy named Paul Daniello.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Paul Donella.

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But they actually got divorced.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But she was married not. You may relive her marriage drama, but

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also, I mean, is that. It wouldn't be shocking that Amy Sedaris is Married. I mean, she's a. She's like a woman of a certain age. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's lovely. She's very funny.

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You know, I gotta be honest. I don't think you know anything about Amy Sedaris.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you don't think she's funny?

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I don't think you know anything about Ava Sedaris.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I said she's funny. You said you don't know anything about her. You insinuating she's not funny?

[Monét X Change]

That was a non sequitur. That was a complete non sequit. It was basically, you'd be like, I don't know if she's married to David Sedaris. No, David Sedaris. Also, David Sedaris is gay. To. To really couple the fact that they're definitely not married.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's a picture of him and RuPaul on the Runway. And every time I see RuPaul next to a normal sized person, it's just always gags me. RuPaul is just a fucking gargantuan RuPaul. There's a picture of RuPaul, which we'll put on the thing. RuPaul next to everyone. Michelle Ross. Wow. Ross is pretty tall, huh?

[Monét X Change]

Okay, maybe this is why they started doing those composite images where they would make them all the same height.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because RuPaul is just a gardener.

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Might have been a quarantine thing, actually.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dad, he is huge. I fucking love it.

[Monét X Change]

But anyway, so. So, Amy. So our guest judges are David Sedaris and her and his wife, Amy Sedaris. And we do a. I told you we were married.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I told you.

[Monét X Change]

You got me. And I want to listen to me. The only reason I. The only reason I did not watch. Well, actually, the only reason I knew about Stranger With Candy was because my old roommate used to be upset, I mean, obsessed with Stranger With Candy. So I just happened to be living with someone for five years who would talk about Strangers with Candy and Jerry Blank at least once a day. At least once a day. And when we do our little performances, a Kim's makeup does not work with this Jerry Blank. I remember watching it being like. I remember looking at her being like, this is like. Like she looked deformed. Almost the way that her makeup worked with the Jerri Blank drag, I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, that still doesn't bother me. Cause watching Drag Race, you always have a queen that has crazy makeup. Even when they would try to soften it up, it kind of always looks like their signature. So, I mean, it's not like crazy to Me. You know what I mean?

[Monét X Change]

To me, it looked wild. There was one shot of her, and I was like, oh, my God, this looks so bad. But I think this might be because it's pretty often for the top five top four to have this performance. The Bitch. The. Like, where they're all dogs. They did that performance where they're all dogs that one time. They do this a lot, and they had to do, like, a little thing. This was probably one of the oddest ones. Like, the. The Jerry Blank performance has got to be a fever dream of a top five performance. This is the weirdest one of all, in my opinion.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I thought. I mean, I'm not super familiar with. Not super. I'm not familiar with Strangers, with Strangers with Candy at all, But I thought it was great. It was. It was. It was whatever.

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It was a funny show. A little bit problematic, but a lot of things from the 90s or early 2000s. I think it's 90s to early 2000s. Strangers with Kendall didn't always age particularly well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jerry Blank. Cherry Blank. Cherry Blank.

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But Amy Sedaris is very, very funny, and I really enjoy her. Her content. And she, as a judge, she really was not taking it very seriously.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love.

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Like, she would just say. I mean, she would say some really wild and crazy stuff, and we were like, all right, girl, so you want to talk about these looks? Say again first?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, we'll get into the looks. First up, RuPaul. This is, I mean, very pretty dress. It's a bodycon gown moment. I mean, this is, like, RuPaul silhouette. RuPaul owns the silhouette.

[Monét X Change]

It's a tank dress.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And it always looks good on that sexy body. I wonder, do you always just remember that RuPaul pads, like, all the way down to his, like, calves? And I would love to know if that's true.

[Monét X Change]

You should ask Raven.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know Kimchi, so Kimchi starts with her. Okay. So did they give y' all this. The. The accessories? Because y' all all have the same shoes.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, we all have the same shoes and necklaces, and so the large stuff was given to us. So I remember when we first did the show, when we. When I first watched this at, like, a viewing party, Kimchi came out, and everyone was like, you better. Like, they were, like, so gagged that Kimchi made these big shoes. They were like, oh, my God, I cannot believe Kim made these massive shoes. And then Naomi came out. They're like, oh. And then I came out. They're like, oh. And then Chichi came, and they're like, oh. Then people were like, did you all just borrow Kim shoes? And I was like, no, they gave us all. I think we all. I think there. I think there actually was one pair of shoes that we all wore that we all just kept, like, kind of bouncing back and forth between maybe two pair of shoes. But, yeah, the large accessories they gave to us because again, I told you that they switched it to the last minute to be this. A baby doing drag versus first time in drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And, I mean, Kim just made herself like a big square. It looks like. Like a big pillowcase with some. With some holes for sleeves.

[Monét X Change]

So Kim and Derek. So when we were making these outfits, I was like, guys, remember we're supposed to look like babies? And they were like, huh? So. So Kim also was making this bodycon gown. And I said, kim, I don't think that's what they want us to do. I remember saying to Kim and Derek, I said, kim and Derek, I don't think this is the assignment. We're supposed to look like babies. And I don't think what you're making is baby like, at all. And she was like, well, I wanted to be Ariel. And I was like, well, even if a kid was wearing an aerial costume, it wouldn't be. I mean, we'll get to Derek in a second. It wouldn't be bodycon and Eric and then Kim and then Kim. I'll tell you, we'll get to Derek in a second. And then Kim was like, oh, okay. And then Kim scrapped what she made. Cause then she looked over what I was making, which was a massive shirt. And then she's changed her idea to make an oversized garment as well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it.

[Monét X Change]

And Kim's doing, like, a. Like the. Like the life of a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of a plant, which I think it's fucking brilliant. The story is so beautiful. And how she starts in the baby one with, like, the little sprout coming off of her head.

[Monét X Change]

It is not in order, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It may not be in order, but the story still makes sense. And we see this and we know exactly what it is. Just looking at it without someone telling me what it is, I'm like, oh, I get it. And I think it's so well done, especially the second one to her mom. It is so beautiful. It's so classic. And then what she made with the papers, with the fucking pages in the book, and she made that head. Kim, fucking shut it down. Shut it down.

[Monét X Change]

Kim used to take origami. Kim was, like, studied origami when she was in, like, high School or something. And she told us when she got there, she's like, yeah, studio origami. So she's really, really good with paper. My only thought process is, like, my only thing that I don't like it is that it's out of order because it's like a sprout and then, like, this dry dandelion and then a flower, but that. But I think if you don't look at it as in it going in order, you can see it as just, like, three different stories of. Of a plant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Because especially since the one is her mom in the middle, it makes sense. That would obviously be the oldest of the three. That. That would be the dandelion, which is like, whatever. And then the one that she made would be in the middle, technically. But, you know, she can't control how the fucking. The runways, how they made y' all do it. So I think it's fucking great. Kim fucking tore it. She tore it up.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah. And Naomi Smalls, I love her baby look. I think it looks really good. She's also wearing a RuPaul shirt, which I love. Yep.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, work. Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

It's like a vintage RuPaul shirt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wonder if she still has it.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, she cut it up for this challenge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Naomi looks great. I think her baby look is dope. And having the big pat. Did they give y' all a wall big pacifier, too, or she brought that with her?

[Monét X Change]

No, that. All the. All the big accessories they gave us got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How can no one else use a pacifier? I guess it only makes sense for her story.

[Monét X Change]

I guess we weren't babies.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And I. Her doing her ode to her mom with the. With the babies. I think that's really breathed. That's very pretty.

[Monét X Change]

Also, her dress that she wore in her mom picture looked like it actually looked like the one that's. That's another problem that I kind of had with Kim is that Kim's mom tribute didn't look like the picture of her mom at all. Or Kim didn't have a picture of her mom in that garment. And it feels like everyone else. Really, really. Well, Chichi did get. Chichi's actually wearing. We'll get to cheating. I don't want to jump the gun, but I do love that now. And I also think that Naomi's dress is the best one. I genuinely think that Naomi should have won this challenge. This is a. I think all three of her looks are really good. She did baby dragon with it. No one else did it. She's also the Youngest one there, which makes sense for her to be the actual baby. I love Naomi's look so much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I love what Naomi made her fucking. And the next season, RuPaul ends up wearing something similar for the season nine promo. But everything about Naomi's is so great. How she did that with the paper bitch, I would not know how to do that. And tying it all the way into the shoes. Naomi, I could have seen either Whore or Kim winning. They were both so good. I mean, they both were great. But Naomi's. I mean, even though Kim's doesn't look like her mom, the whole story, the whole thing just looks. It looks really good. And sometimes that's all you need.

[Monét X Change]

I. And moving on to me, I. I had this shirt for. This shirt that I made for a long. It's literally I just made a massive T shirt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where is it?

[Monét X Change]

And put, and put my hair. I think I ended up selling it for charity. And I put my hair in a side ponytail. And this picture, this picture of me leaning forward. When I tell you this is a literal, verbatim recreation of a picture that my mom posted on the Internet and I look exactly like her. And I'm telling. I'm about to find the picture right now. We can. I'm gonna try to get Jacob to post it or whoever. I mean, get this edited into the thing. But this is literally a picture of my mom. Like, I look just like my mother.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I mean, I think that you, you probably the one who. Well, you and Naomi, you guys, like, both, like, did exactly what you're. I can't really say.

[Monét X Change]

Tell me that's not this picture.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, for sure. You and Naomi definitely, like, recreated your moms exactly. And I think that it should be commended for sure. And your baby one was cute. The one. Even though you didn't embrace the materials, I think it's a good look. But I could see how, like, they could say you did not embrace the materials. And we, and we. We've talked about this before.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, I, I. So the, the bottom half of my get gown, which I ended up not using, was all pages, but I got rid of it because it was hard to walk in. And also, I don't even know how to explain this, but, like, the pages aren't perfectly glued down, so when you pick them up, they just kind of like everything kind of shifts. So I have to go back and spray paint again. So I could never fully spray paint the whole thing. Within the time that I had, I would have had to spray paint each page. And then put them on. So I ended up cutting it. But I still. But my entire brassiere was made out of book covers. And my. The middle part of my. My corset was. And then around toward the. Toward the bottom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Book covers. Like. Like when you have, like, a hardcover book and they put, like.

[Monét X Change]

They were all made of, like, hardcover. So I took this, like. What do you call it? A cardboard cutter. And by the way, book covers are very hard to cut up, by the

[Bob the Drag Queen]

way, I would imagine.

[Monét X Change]

So I'm, like, cutting them open. My hands are getting so tired. And I was like, honestly, I'm just gonna put the other parts in cardboard because it looks the same. And then some. Some producer snitch ass bitch ratted on me and told everyone that. Told them that I use cardboard. Some snitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't believe that you use cardboard. Why did you try to be a little snake in the grass? A little. A little Lucifer?

[Monét X Change]

Well, I'm also not the only person who used cardboard who was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cardboard.

[Monét X Change]

Kim used cardboard. That's how she. Remember. That's how Kim got it. That thing to stand up on her shoulders.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that wasn't, like, the majority of her thing. It was just that little thing. Right. Is. Is that pink thing on her head cardboard, too?

[Monét X Change]

There's probably. I don't know. I didn't go. I didn't go. I mean, there's clearly something helping it hold structure. I don't know. I don't know what it is, though. I wasn't. I didn't. I was too busy making my own garment.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I think with her. Is it. Cause it's just like a little accent thing. But the majority of her thing, you can see it as paper. Also with Naomi, too. Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

Anyway, I like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where'd you get that wig?

[Monét X Change]

This wig? The wig that landed me in the bottom. You lent it to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And do you want to say anything? You want to say a thank you, or do you want to say thanks

[Monét X Change]

for putting me in the bottom? Thanks for getting me in the bottom with your wig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you. I think it was your embracing of the materials got you in the bottom. Honey, this wig is probably the only thing that saved your ass and then sends you home. You know you want to say thank you. You know what? I'll take it. You're welcome.

[Monét X Change]

Thanks for. Thanks for. You're welcome for landing me in the bottom. Let's go to Derek. So you're very well. Derek's idea was to look like the Little Mermaid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I don't understand why.

[Monét X Change]

Because it tied to her childhood in some way, and she felt like it would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He looks crazy with the eyebrows.

[Monét X Change]

Also, Derek Ray wanted to change her eyebrows each Runway. She changed her eyebrows each time, and they just got crazier and crazier.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, there's something to be said about her really trying, honestly, that speaks to how Derek is willing to really, like, work hard and, like, do the thing so good for her. She's like, I'm gonna. They asked me to change it up. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna try my best.

[Monét X Change]

She's willing. I don't know how able she is, but she's definitely willing. I was a little bit uncomfortable with her description of her mother look. She was like, this is a look that my mother wore, but I'm reimagining it as a sheer nightgown. Night that I was conceived, I was like, not Derek Perry telling the story of th. This is a lot. I was like, that. That. That feels like a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love it. Derek is. Derek is so wild. She's hot. Saying work. Not a Little Mermaid. I just.

[Monét X Change]

I guess I like her mom look, though. I just didn't like the story of her being conceived. I thought it was a little. A little odd. And this look, y'.

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[Monét X Change]

This book look of Derek's was such a point of controversy during this episode where we. Where Derek was like, she would not stop going on and on about how much work she put into this garment and how she was like, I honestly think this is one of the best garments that's ever been made on RuPaul's Drag Race. I really genuinely think this should be put up in a museum. And she was like, I literally think it should be put up in a museum because it is so beautiful. I spent so much time and so much detail, and we were like. I just. And she kept being like, what do you guys. And we were like, we just don't see it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And, like, another season, had she, like, maybe cover the gloves, too and also cover the panty, maybe that would have been, like, a safe look. But comparing it to, like, what. I can't. I mean, you cannot put that next to what Kim did, what Naomi did, and be like, ooh, girl. Like, this is the best look here. Like, that is literally just delusion.

[Monét X Change]

Well, you tell that to Ms. Barry because she was adamant about the validity of this look. I was like, you better work, honey. And let's go on to Chi Chi Devane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Chi Devane.

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[Monét X Change]

I mean, so. Who also Made a big picture.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She looks like an old baby. She looks like an older baby. Cause, like, the hair and like the glass, it looks like it was like. It was like an old baby.

[Monét X Change]

You think she's trying to dress up in her mom's clothes, like the big bracelets and the glasses, but, yeah, she's a whole baby. The. I. I don't think this is actually a nice wig on Gigi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is, but she's using her. Her. Her hair. This is a very Southern patch of thing. You use your hair as the base, and you do the black spray, and you put a fall on top of it, which it looks great.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, if you have a nice hairline, do it. I mean, girl, not everyone can do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I used to. Then I stopped.

[Monét X Change]

Oh, did you work? So show some pictures. We'll post a picture and put it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y'. All. Y' all are seeing it right now.

[Monét X Change]

This picture right now is when I used to pull her hair back. This is actually Chichi's mother's dress. This is her actual mom's dress she just borrowed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love that.

[Monét X Change]

Took the Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She better work. She better to work. I'm assuming TC's mom has short hair as well.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, I think it's, like, really, really short, though. Like, platinum and really short. Like, I think at the time was, like, the picture she referenced, it was like, buzzed down work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, yeah, I think. I think her mom look is great. She's. Is her mom's dress. So, I mean, how much more of your mom can you be, right?

[Monét X Change]

And her book look is fantastic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Really good. Really, really good. The only thing I wish is they went in. In the waist a little more. But, I mean, you're trying to. You're. You made it from scratch. And I love all of the little ornaments she did in her hair. She made those bracelets, that ponytail, that. That. That long braid, which I love. I think Chichi looks stellar.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, yeah, it can only go in so much of the waist because she's using these cheap corsets that they have at Drag Race. If you haven't noticed, they give us these corsets when we turn around. They either don't close at all because they're too small for some of us, or they are, like. They're, like, literally side by side because it's too big. So, like, these corsets. So it is just. What y' all don't realize is there is just a box of corsets that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And of course, and bras and also, also hoop skirts. They give you as well to make when you have a design challenge. And petticoats.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, petticoats, hoop skirts, brassieres, corsets, and cinchers too. Yeah. And you can use them as bases when you have to. When you have unconventional challenges, unconventional materials challenge, you can actually use them anytime you want. They're just there. It's a box of shapewear available for you to use.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then since I've been on since All Stars, they started adding hip pads too. They make like those. Like those Astro booty pads where you can just step into them. They provide that for you too, just in case. And also I love Chichi's lipstick. Chi Chi's lipstick color. It's like a light pink. It looks. I. I used to wear this color. It was called Snob by Mac. I don't know if that's it, but it's color very similar to this. I used to fucking love Snob. I think I still have some sticks of it. I just don't want to stop.

[Monét X Change]

Again, for me, the top. For me, the top two are actually Naomi and Chichi, personally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no, I think it's definitely Kim and Naomi because Kim's mom look for me. It turns it.

[Monét X Change]

And during the. During the judge's remarks, you know, there I. I also forget how. How much Ross has changed over the years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know he really has to get

[Monét X Change]

to see, but the voice is still the exact same. Yeah, that's your Ross. You know when you have a baked

[Bob the Drag Queen]

potato and you season it with pepper, salt, and you just really want it to taste good, and then you cook

[Monét X Change]

it, you cook it, you cook it,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and then bam, it's finally ready. That's you.

[Monét X Change]

That's you. You're the baked potato. You know, that thing. So we find out that the bottom two queens are me and Derica Barica, and we lip sync to Mighty Real. By Sylvester. Did you get some joy watching me in the bottom?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wouldn't say joy, but I definitely was like, oh, that sucks. I hope Derrick wins.

[Monét X Change]

And did Derek win?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Unfortunately, no. When you. I remember watching this in New York City when you were in the bottom, everybody was gagged. Everybody was obviously rooting for New York City. And, you know, everyone knows you to be a good lip syncher. So I don't think. I mean, but again, it's tv. You never know what's gonna happen. People are like, bob is a good lip syncger. We think Bob's gonna do a good job. You did. You did a great job. But this season is the season of things Falling apart. As soon as you start, your earrings start falling off. I'm like, these girls in season eight, did they need to put fucking roll y' all in rubber cement before y' all start lip syncing? Cause y' all just. Every single lip sync of the season, y' all hoes lose shoes, hair, jewelry. It's like, what is wrong with these girls on this season?

[Monét X Change]

Can we just cut back to Monet's chaps falling off?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One lipstick. One lipstick, bitch.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, out of. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Literally me, one lip.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But every lipstick this season.

[Monét X Change]

Out of your three.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every lipstick this season, y' all hoes cannot keep anything on.

[Monét X Change]

I'm just saying, in your one lipstick, your wig fell off. Your fucking chaps.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I took. That was a wig reveal. My chaps came down.

[Monét X Change]

Yo, you're okay. I'm gonna reiterate, y'.

[Shannon Maldonado]

All.

[Monét X Change]

Monet's wig reel did not happen when she wanted to happen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, it did.

[Monét X Change]

Well, it was a poorly timed wig reveal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you know what? Albeit it's a poorly timed reveal is what I wanted to do. Now the chaps, I tried to take them off. Bob, listen, we see you trying to deflect and project your.

[Monét X Change]

I'm saying, you trying to drag lipstick. You're trying to drag us.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause we're talking about your season. And all of y' all were just a messy lip synchronous falling apart as soon as RuPaul says life melt. Every single one of y'.

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[Monét X Change]

We were not. We were not. We have actually some. We have some really iconic lip syncs from this season. Just chichi, truly iconic lip syncs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love when they took the chichi one and they. They remix it to Mortal Kombat and she throws the side. That was. It was a. I guess we're popular back.

[Monét X Change]

What? I don't think I saw that one. Oh, Ridge, you say memes were popular back then, Bitch. Do you think we filmed this in 1999? How long ago do you think this was? How long ago do you think this was?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This was seven years ago. That's a long time. That's the better part of a decade.

[Monét X Change]

No, I guess memes were popular back then, Bitch. What is your timeline, bitch?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all niggas was on Logo. Y' all ain't have shit. Y' all was bald headed and confused looking crazy on Logo tv.

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[Monét X Change]

Do you have any memories of this lip sync? I remember I wasn't very nervous. I was pretty confident that I was going to be Derrick Barry. And I remember Derek being like, if it was a Britney song. And I was like, it's not so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But it's not. If it's a Britney song. Do you think Derrick would have beat you?

[Monét X Change]

No, I think I would have won this lip sync if it was a Britney song.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What song do you think it would have been that Derek would have beat you? Maybe American Pie.

[Monét X Change]

By who? What is that song? How's that go? Bye, Miss American Pie. Pull the Chevy to the levy but the levee Them good old boys was drinking whiskey and rye Thinking this would be the day that I lie No, I like this song. I could win this song too. There's probably a song somewhere. Maybe. Maybe I don't care. By. By that group.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I kind of Pop icon of pop.

[Monét X Change]

Maybe I don't care.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it.

[Monét X Change]

But I was not worried. I also remember, so I'm wearing these really. So the reason that I. I had these massive earrings on because I don't normally wear big earrings like that. Like, that's. That's really not part of my drag. It has not really. I. I went through a small stint where I was trying to make that my dragon because I felt like that's what you needed to do. I really. I really internalized this, like, this, like, reading of me, like, not being glamorous and not having big makeup and not having big earrings and jewelry. So I was going to this phase where I gotta wear massive, massive earrings. And I did glue the earrings down, but they're. You can't lipstick in big earrings. Like, the physics. The way physics work. If you're, like, whipping your head around, the earrings are coming off. So the earrings flew off my ear, obviously, but I was serving. I don't think this lip sync was messy at all. I think it was actually a really good lip sync. I think me and Derek actually both did a pretty good job. And I brought it home and I sent my good friend Derek home.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dericka Holm, rest in peace. Derrick berry on his RuPaul's Draggers career.

[Monét X Change]

And the winner of the challenge was. Kim Chisel. And we are now down to the top four, All Girls of color.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Color. Was this the first season of All Girls of Color in the finale?

[Shannon Maldonado]

No.

[Monét X Change]

No, it's not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bianca Jinx.

[Monét X Change]

Season three was All Girls of Color.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Manila Raja and Alexis Potato. Yes. Has it happened since season.

[Monét X Change]

I believe season one was also All Girls of Color. Bibi, Rebecca Glasscock and Who else?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Season 11. No.

[Monét X Change]

Oh, yeah, it was. Yeah, it was two Puerto Rican queens and an African queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Season 1, 2, and 8.

[Monét X Change]

Season 1 and season 3.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Season 1, 3 and 8.

[Monét X Change]

There's probably more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I think we're thinking about Tyra.

[Monét X Change]

No, Raven is definitely white. 100% white. And then UK had the first all white. Top 12. Hey, top 12.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Down under.

[Monét X Change]

I meant down under.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, with all the queens down under white.

[Monét X Change]

No, they had. They had a few Aboriginal queens. Anyway, they all went home in the first, like, two episodes of that. They had two Aboriginal queens on. Or one queen who was an indigenous Kiwi. Say again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And they went home in the first two episodes?

[Monét X Change]

I believe so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Damn.

[Monét X Change]

No, Anita Wiglet was not. Alita Wiglet was. Was. There was. It was. Jojo's a ho. And I can't remember ever queen's name. I did not watch a lot of Down Under.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Bob the Drag Queen. Four queens remain. I can't wait to see what the next episode is and who makes it. Who do you think is going to make it to the top three?

[Monét X Change]

You know, I would say at this point, I thought it was going to be me, Kimchi and Chichi. I did not think Nan was going to make the top three. Well, because Naomi had a really. Nami had a really rough ride. Y' all forgetting, like, y' all are seeing Naomi now. Like, y'.

[Shannon Maldonado]

All.

[Monét X Change]

Y' all are talking about Naomi in 2022. But back in 2015, Naomi had a very rough ride to the top three. Who do you think is going to win from.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I will say, like, she started her first half, but, like, since the.

[Monét X Change]

From.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Since the. I guess. What episode was that now? I can't remember.

[Monét X Change]

The scarecrow look was, like, two episodes ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, damn. Also, that was halfway through that.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, makes sense.

[Monét X Change]

Who do you think is going to win at this point? When you're watching, who do you think is going to win?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Watching? I thought it was between you and Kim.

[Monét X Change]

I didn't say between, bitch. I said who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. Obviously, I was rooting for you, but logically, I was probably saying, like, I could see because Kim had. Because Kim was also doing a really good job. And Kim had. Y' all had won the same amount of challenges, right?

[Monét X Change]

No, you had. I won three challenges.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kim had two or three. Oh, two.

[Monét X Change]

This is her. This is her second.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is her second one.

[Monét X Change]

Kim hadn't won since episode one. Wow. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gag. So, yeah, probably for you, but, yeah, well, I was definitely rooting for you. I don't know who I actually thought was gonna win. I was like, it could be Derek.

[Monét X Change]

You think I don't have the beauty and grace to win? Drag Race. That really upset me at the time. I was like, this bitch just called me ugly. I was like, this bitch just called me ugly. I wanted to fight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you knew.

[Monét X Change]

I felt not fight. I was very hurt. Do what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you knew. You knew that already.

[Monét X Change]

Knew what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's how I felt that Adam possessed

[Monét X Change]

the beauty and grace to win Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hello.

[Monét X Change]

I was very irritated that day. Anyway, well, there it is, another episode of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 8. Thank you all for joining us on this dragon. As you can see, we're almost done.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're coinciding with All Stars 7, which is kind of wild because. Okay, All Stars 7 is 9. There's episode no. 10, 11, 12. This has episode 9. 10. Oh, we're gonna finish a week early. Well, whatever.

[Monét X Change]

But thank you all for joining us on this journey. It's actually been very fun to reflect on RuPaul's Drag Race Season 8 again. Let us know. We'll post, like a Twitter poll or Instagram poll or something to see which episode you want to. Which season you want us to review next.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All Stars, too. I'm saying I'm making a decision.

[Monét X Change]

All Stars 2 is my. Is my favorite season. It is the best season of Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was really good.

[Monét X Change]

So Monet's. Monet's vote is All Stars 2. I love All Stars too, but maybe they want us to talk about one of your seasons.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sure, maybe. You know what? Maybe we can do All Stars 7 next.

[Monét X Change]

That'd be interesting, wouldn't it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That would be very interesting.

[Monét X Change]

All right, thank you all for joining us. Bye, everyone.

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